People don't talk about the fact that when the RZA came to the West Coast and got robbed for his chain Tupac put his life on the line by getting on the Forefront and getting chain back...That's what I feel pac was expecting to do but as we all know sometimes in life you can't expect people to do as you would do
real facts. he wouldve learned that had he lived to grow older. he expected his peers to ride for him like he did for them, but they didnt have that same loyalty trait like him. thats what all his issues came from. surroundin himself with people who didnt have the same heart as him
@@elijahhardaway2756 he was at club 666 one night with 1 other person and they got jumped. Tupac and death row got his chain because they didn't want the Wu to think it was a set up plus they respected Wu
First person on interview that seems to have the entire story right and he didn’t skip a beat. No surprise he was in the position he was in at Bad Boy. Dope individual. All business, no bullshit. Got to support people like that. 💯
I think he's just electing yo be respectful to all parties involved and not say too much. There are a lot of other components to that story that lead to the outcome it lead to
@@jackjill8129 man ain't shit you looking you just talking just to talk you want something to be there it's just hard for you to think that this guy is legit you think everything is a conspiracy don't you huh?
If I'm not mistaken, Biggie did tell Pac to be careful of the dudes he hangs around. Sometimes, you can warn people, and they don't see the seriousness of the situation or take it lightly. The second thing is you can't blame Pac for not trusting anyone after that.
@@muhammedmamadikassama9842 In reality. He actually ended up getting robbed by Jack's people for it because Pac went and told them that Biggie said he should be careful hanging out with them. I doubt Big knew that Jimmy was trying to get Pac robbed in Quad Studios that night, but if he somehow I wouldn't blame him after Pac got him lined up the first time.
@@jarvasedundy1 Can't tell Pac stans that Biggie didn't know about the robbery. It's d*ck suckin stans on both sides that continue to keep the beef alive. Just like the media did. It was Bad Boy vs Death Row...not East Coast vs West Coast. Pac loved NYC and NYC loved Pac...rappers especially. RIP both legends. Frfr though...fukk Puff and Suge. LOL
@@pierrechantalcorley79286 months after tupac died, Biggie went to an LA radio show and in a way kinda dissed Pac on a song he made after pacs death bragging about his death
Kirk is a very sincere and down to earth man. Y'all gotta remember he saved Mary J.'s career after Puffy screwed her over and just before she got with Kunta Kinte Isaacs. Kirk was also fired from Bad Boy Records, probably because he couldn't get with all the low down dirty sh*t that was going on at that record label. One thing my late Auntie always used to tell me is that people can lie to themselves and they can lie to others but they can't lie to GOD. I salute this dude
This explains where the animosity came from... suge says it started when he tried to get biggie to perform at his club and puffy wanted all of the door money instead of taking a flat fee. This explains why puffy was being difficult in tht situation. All because an established big time label, didn't want to do a joint ad with an up and coming label. Niqqa crazy
If he did know anything he couldn't snitch or he'd get touched but i believe he didn't know anything about what was gonna go on in the lobby. Cream puff sure did though
@@pumpkensdiapers1417 How can Puffy protect 2pac from Haitian Jack who they were Co accused in the rape case 2pac was shot afew days before the rape verdict. Biggie had warned 2pac to stay away from Haitian Jack Puffy and Biggie were all about music business. 2pac knew he was in a tough situation with the rape case, he said it himself in court that it was a set up and tried to blame Haitian Jack but since he knew Jack was dangerous he opted to vent on Biggie and puffy
You get shot and come out the elevator and everyone is looking at you like "damn he still alive?" Instead of asking what happened.... Yea you wouldn't feel some type of way?
Thats pacs perception........not reality. If a nigga punch me in my face and a bystander laughs i might PERCEIVE them to be in on it....but that might not be reality. U niggas lack critcal thinking skills
Everybody seems to focus on the service level but don't pay attention to the puppeteers engineering this west/east coast fued between Bad Boy/Death Row. Those puppeteers are David Kennar and Clive Davis who set back watched all this mess unfold while making uber millions seeing hip hop being slowly destroyed from within. Divide then conquer has been the ultimate chess play made by these puppeteers which no one's paying attention to the shadow figures pulling the strings in the background. Hip Hop is a billion dollar industry and it's unfortunate that Puffy & Suge Knight couldn't see that they were being used as pawns to engineer a Conquer then Divide strategy to ultimately be destroyed. Now Death Row & Bad Boy records are both basically defunct along with the rap industry.
The instigators always doing that!! Get shyt started, then walk away whistling, unscathed most times, playing the "nut role" like they don't know their involvement!!
It confuses me on how is that Puff had done so many people wrong those close to him and those far from him and yet no one pulled up on him. He had to remove Kirk out of his own company and the man did nothing how is this even possible
Biggie called Hot 97 and said Brooklyn stand up 2Pac and Tha Dogg Pound is here filming a video and 2Pac wasn’t even there and Tha Dogg Pound video trailer got hit I’m tired of people from NY saying Biggie wasn’t about beefing with Pac he was always doing sneak disses
Message folks: this the real reason why beef started it was already tension between label bosses in which would be top dog..then the tóp artist had tensions so Tupac put more fuel saying the whole east coast we riding on em west...but really all his issues was with NY....thank you Art for content getting real backstory on important time in history....it was lots of violence during this time coast vs coast, gangs, schools, people in streets getting in on it ..they had so many NAACP, Islam meetings to end the beef.. call truce it was getting out of hand 95-96
Over 20 years later and these dudes can't rest in peace. Its just makes me sick to my stomach two kids lost their father, and a mother lost her son over nothing. Black ppl still dying in vein.
PAC put too much faith in their ability to stop gangsters from doing what they do. Rappers are rappers, period. They not gangsters. At least on the east coast.
It just always bother me that ppl say biggie loved PAC, but not once biggie visit pac in jail, or afterwards.... so that piece always is get me Real Homies don’t move like That. Pac said that himself how biggie never came after he was shot that’s 18 months afterwards and not one conversation
Honestly, I can't ride for a cat/brother I'm cool with but he's always running his big mouth!! Not gone happen for me cuz I don't roll like dat personally & I feel Big may not have wanted to get too close to date vibe as well. Snoop did so at the awards that time and honestly looked real less Kool when he did, though I felt what he was getting at. NY audience loved Snoop. NY wasn't ready for dat transition of not being THE KING of Hip Hop for a spell as a result of the West & up & coming South!!
@@erichawkins7305 Right is right & wrong is wrong and I don't care who it is!! I've had to pull my Daddio to the side a time or to & even my Mom to express my take on things they've done or what have You! Again, if my potnas ran they mouth like Pac did, we couldn't be but so close. I didn't personally know Pac, but he seemed to 2ant You to ride with him against cats he wasn't cool wit. It's folk I ain't cool wit that my dude is & vice versa. Jus cuz I don't doesn't mean I need my dude/good brother to not be cool wit that same person I'm not. Pac had a beautiful & great heart, was about people, etc, but he also had things going on with him I couldn't roll wit.
Pac said multiple times he loves the East,his problem was with certain individuals who came at him and those who he felt should've had his back but then you had opportunist who saw a chance to get into the lime light and capitalize off the situation. Rest in Love to both Pac and Big I only wished we could have seen things resolved and both lived to their full potential.
Salute to Art Of Dialogue & Kirk. Kirk knows a lot in regards to Puff and Bad Boy Entertainment. I will say that I think the robbery/shooting at Quad Studio of 2Pac in 1994 was to discipline 2Pac for dissin' certain individuals in the media/press at the time. Nothing more or less.
Wendy Day is one of the gems of this culture. She is still doing great work to this day. WENDY DAY. We havent worked together yet, but I thank you for you being you!! Yodel at me if you see this. Art you shouldve known about her. smh
Damm this Brotha's VIBE👌💯 is outta this world.He presents(ARTICULATES) his PRESPECTIVE of what went dwn when he was around the industry back then in very CALMY MANNER👍👌.#MUCHRESPECT
Next episode, Art: So my man, in the song "Long kiss goodnight" when Biggie said "I'll make yo mouthpiece obese like Della Reese" was he talking about Puffy?
Facts.. He was already with digital underground. I don’t give a damn where he was born. Everyone knows Pac from a west coast group. So how did he go west after he was shot, when he was already with the west? And he skipped over the part of why did Big drop who shot ya. That’s what really ignited the beef and that out of Tupac’s own mouth.
@@bronxcali4891 i think most pac fans including me are well aware of this. point being pacs career as a serious musician began on the west coast. from digital underground, and all his studio albums are west coast, oakland-bay area influenced. there’s no debate to be had.
@@bronxcali4891Before I even address this, wtf does this have to do with what she said or what dude said? He was already out West and that's a fact. Was repping it on songs and everything.
PAC was bicoastal born and raised on the East and then later came out West. He actually lived in Decatur, Georgia during the time he was going to jail. But he was always in New York working producers and hanging with people back there. He loved Cali but he loved the East Coast as well..
This guy denies knowing Tupac would be attacked or shot. But doesn’t deny knowing who did it. That’s the problem with the “ no snitch “ code. If a friend robs a friend you think the victim doesn’t deserve justice? Basically, you betrayed your friends trust.
Big wasn’t involved but Henchmen, a known affiliate of Puff Daddy did indeed set up Tupac. So Puffy in turn may have known! That’s why on “Against All Odds” Pac never mentioned Biggie! Pac & Big would’ve made up after Big left Puff and Pac left Suge imo.
I said the same thing when I commented on the Cease interview! Pac never mentioned biggie in against all odds! That's telling when he said "this is the realest shit I ever wrote" ppl gotta pay attention biggie just got caught in the middle
Different time back then. It came out on his album, as opposed to “hit ‘em up” coming out on a mixtape. The artist has little control of when their album comes out.
Biggie didn't know pac was goin get robbed at the studio..but biggie did knew who did it...biggie was scared to tell pac who did it cause he might say something..dats y pac said fear is stronger then love
Ya info is wrong, biggie had already warned pac jack was shiesty and pac went back and told jack, which got biggie robbed. Pac is stupid if he think biggie goona ride with him against a kingpin who litteraly has hitmen working for him.
@@bweezy565 or someone could of set it up to were Big and Pac was in the same building together and made them go against each other like they did, but we will never know because we wasn't there or we didn't do the shooting. All we can make is opinions
First of all, somebody in that studio new Tupac was coming. That's why he blamed him because it ain't like he was broadcasting his whereabouts everywhere he go. So for them to say they ain't had nothing to do with it I could see how he would think they were lying.
@Terence Decker THANK YOU! For years people from NY have tried to paint this picture that Biggie was so above it, and the beef was all Pac. BS! Biggie was involved with that dumb ass East Coast/West Coat beef just as much as Pac was. The only difference was Pac came at Biggie head on, while Biggie stayed being slick and undercover with his disses. I'm fed up with that narrative. Biggie was NOT above it, he just didn't have the balls to come back at Pac head on.
Have you ever been to Rikers? Or known anyone who did time there?? Man listen, it’s not a fun place. It’s a zoo, literally the inmates run the jail and the officers are crooked. I’m sure he wanted to leave asap
@@NGT4LIFE nothing at all 😂 jus was saying he's well spoken and articulate in the way he tell his stories that's all 💯 doesn't mean I believe everything he say tho 💯💪 is my point 💯
2pac felt New York didn’t really had love for him. Cali and Suge embraced him more than any one in New York He was feeling a way because pac at first didn’t hate nas or biggie or mobb deep The reason he started to hate these people is because they acted like snakes 🐍 They said one thing but acted differently behind your back
I'm trying hard to not watch these clips because i wanna watch the whole interview but it's just too compelling considering who and what he was to the company. I know he knows all the inside stuff that I've wondered about for years.
Biggie definitely wasn’t being referred to as “King of New York” when Pac got hit in Quad studio, but he was close enough to the street to know what happened. Even worse, claiming to be “king” post shooting added to the expectations a friend would have after being shot.
Pac shot Above the Rim at the Rucker, great story. It wasnt a team effort it was just a robbery gone bad. NY rappers dont control the streets in NY, the crews do. But Wendy is a beast, she helped Master P and Cash Money as well.
What it sounds like to me is everything happened in the moment and not nobody was thing straight about the situation nobody was willing talk an settle It without violence instead of squashing it they let in turn into a war but nobody’s perfect we’re only human at the end of the an we don’t know the future or what it holds just in the moment reacting out anger and emotions
During one of Pac interviews he said after being shot he reached out to Big on multiple occasions trying to inquire what really happened at the studio. But Big kept avoiding him. This is what escalated the situation.
Basically he’s said the media and record companies knew that attention, drama, etc would sell so they pumped it up. He’s talking but he’s not saying exactly everything. They knew these 20ish year olds would get money but nothing compared if they were killed and could blame the artist. Like suge said he had the formula and Jimmie iovine stole it
“Biggie would have done anything to help him”. Releases “Who Shot Ya?” after 2pac is shot. Releases The Long Kiss Goodnight after 2pac dies. Performs The Long Kiss Goodnight on LA radio live after 2pac dies. Wow, Biggie must have really been an idiot if he never meant any of those things 🤔
That whole Biggie being the King of NY being the reason why he should have known who did & prevented it is the goofiest shit I’ve ever heard. It’s LIKR everyone including fans knew Pac was into all kinds of shit. As impulsive as he is & the fact that he’s from NY he could have been into all kinds of shit Biggie didn’t know about. I have friends I love that always get into shit I get hesitant jumping off the cliff cause u just don’t know wtf going on. If I’m there & shit going down I don’t waste time trying to figure out who what why. I’m just whooping ass & find out later. But if I don’t know wtf happen & I wasn’t there I’m not trying anything to jump off the cliff for a homie I know gets into shit especially if they the type that gets drunk b& wanna fight every time they sipping on HEN ROCK. Plus if I’m Biggie who’s career Is just starting to pop, I’m married with kids that changes any real man’s perspective. Stop blaming Biggie
I can feel you on this, but at the same time, why didn’t he visit Pac in prison, why did they release ”who shot ya”. I think getting shot 5 times, robbed, and getting framed and put in prison for a crime you didn’t commit, changes you
Smart man, u see through the pac was innocent BS. Biggie and Mike Tyson warned him about Jack. People with a half of brain know the term "king of New York" came from his favorite movie at the time. Pac disrespected Jimmy Henchmen on the phone over being paid via check instead of cash. Who tells everyone (including pac's friends) that he's gonna get him before hand?
That's the best most unbiased objective take on Tupac's situation at Quad Studios & New York.
People don't talk about the fact that when the RZA came to the West Coast and got robbed for his chain Tupac put his life on the line by getting on the Forefront and getting chain back...That's what I feel pac was expecting to do but as we all know sometimes in life you can't expect people to do as you would do
Facts.
"You never had a friend like me"
2Pac
RZA was never moving solo he always with Wu tang
real facts. he wouldve learned that had he lived to grow older. he expected his peers to ride for him like he did for them, but they didnt have that same loyalty trait like him. thats what all his issues came from. surroundin himself with people who didnt have the same heart as him
@@elijahhardaway2756 he was at club 666 one night with 1 other person and they got jumped. Tupac and death row got his chain because they didn't want the Wu to think it was a set up plus they respected Wu
I remember this like it was yesterday. Happy that you recounted this as the historical accuracy is important for future generations. Love you Kirk!!
Hey Wendy, did you ever meet up with Biggie and what was he like with all this craziness he was being falsely accused of?
I have a lot of respect for you Wendy. They don’t give you enough props for your contribution to Hip Hop especially in the South.
Love from Australia and Much respect to you
#credible
@@EverybodyHatesChrisNow Yeah we do
First person on interview that seems to have the entire story right and he didn’t skip a beat. No surprise he was in the position he was in at Bad Boy. Dope individual. All business, no bullshit. Got to support people like that. 💯
He got it wrong pac never went in for rape and diddy knew something was going to happen to him that day
I think he's just electing yo be respectful to all parties involved and not say too much. There are a lot of other components to that story that lead to the outcome it lead to
@@jackjill8129 like what?
@@jackjill8129 man ain't shit you looking you just talking just to talk you want something to be there it's just hard for you to think that this guy is legit you think everything is a conspiracy don't you huh?
@@jackjill8129 Wtf that has to do with what Bleach Baby said
If I'm not mistaken, Biggie did tell Pac to be careful of the dudes he hangs around. Sometimes, you can warn people, and they don't see the seriousness of the situation or take it lightly. The second thing is you can't blame Pac for not trusting anyone after that.
In a movie .. or reality
@@muhammedmamadikassama9842 In reality. He actually ended up getting robbed by Jack's people for it because Pac went and told them that Biggie said he should be careful hanging out with them. I doubt Big knew that Jimmy was trying to get Pac robbed in Quad Studios that night, but if he somehow I wouldn't blame him after Pac got him lined up the first time.
You could be right but so far that warning was only spoken about or portrayed in the movie respecfully
Finally! Somebody admitting there was fault on both sides and it wasn't just Pac & Suge.
You can't tell Biggie stans this though
@@jarvasedundy1 why?
@@jarvasedundy1 Can't tell Pac stans that Biggie didn't know about the robbery. It's d*ck suckin stans on both sides that continue to keep the beef alive. Just like the media did. It was Bad Boy vs Death Row...not East Coast vs West Coast. Pac loved NYC and NYC loved Pac...rappers especially. RIP both legends. Frfr though...fukk Puff and Suge. LOL
What did biggie do wrong?
@@pierrechantalcorley79286 months after tupac died, Biggie went to an LA radio show and in a way kinda dissed Pac on a song he made after pacs death bragging about his death
Kirk is a very sincere and down to earth man. Y'all gotta remember he saved Mary J.'s career after Puffy screwed her over and just before she got with Kunta Kinte Isaacs. Kirk was also fired from Bad Boy Records, probably because he couldn't get with all the low down dirty sh*t that was going on at that record label. One thing my late Auntie always used to tell me is that people can lie to themselves and they can lie to others but they can't lie to GOD. I salute this dude
Your Aunt was a wise woman! That's a major problem we're dealing with nowadays: people lying to themselves. It's sad.
I could listen to Kirk Burrows talk about this era all day. He is obviously well-spoken and well-versed in the dealings of that time.
Kirk won't discuss his role in the movie Blade
never trust a ny guy lol
Yep! Same here.
@@cobrakainevereverdies6940 you wrong for that 🤣
but he didnt answer the question tho
I had the honor of talking with this man. Super smart hard working and old school
That’s my father’s best friend my dad told me stories too true talk !
@@Imrichpoor Can you kindly ask Kirk to Publisher 2Pac's letter he wrote to Kirk. Thank you.
You're pumping out amazing content 🔥🔥🔥💯
The real war wasnt with biggie but was with puffy hes been gettin away with shxt for years
Puffy also drove LA with biggie knowing biggie would be killed! Why didn’t they get puff too? 💼 🐍
Bingo
I always said BIG never saw it coming but was definitely ⚠️ warned
Keep it real Kirk. People need to hear the truth.
Who knows the real truth
Why don't you tell us the truth😏
2PAC GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME ⏲️ 🙌 💯 👏 👌 🙏 R.I.P.
Fasho!!!!! Rest in Love Tumacvelli
This man speaks very clear and sounds like a nice person 👍❤️
Yet still lies for Puff... Hmm...
@@ExoTheDrakoXIII Why would puff need him to go on ebay and bid for him? 😁
@@mullersarin1587 that's the thing, he doesn't need anything but people willingly prop people like him up for whatever reason, Mr America
Must be a white person comment yea black peoples can speak clearly
SOUND LIKE A C R ACK HEAD LOL
Just think what life would be like if none of this ever happened!
@@thesupervisor3270Right. Pac even on his 2nd album says: “ I’m coming outta Oaktown bitch fuck around! “
2pac and Big would've ran the rap game and would've had both the party side of rap and also the conscious heads both in unity most likely (we'd hope)
This explains where the animosity came from... suge says it started when he tried to get biggie to perform at his club and puffy wanted all of the door money instead of taking a flat fee. This explains why puffy was being difficult in tht situation. All because an established big time label, didn't want to do a joint ad with an up and coming label. Niqqa crazy
His break down on the pac situation is on point!
This is a good interview. He is giving a lot of insight into whay really happened. I believe him
This brotha was clearly at ground zero
HOW AND HE NEVER SAID NOTHING
Biggie I'm sure wanted to help. But sadly Puffy stepped in an said your not helping. Your focus is on getting your albums out
If he did know anything he couldn't snitch or he'd get touched but i believe he didn't know anything about what was gonna go on in the lobby. Cream puff sure did though
I truly believe someone at that studio knew what was going on bottomline
Belief does not equate to facts
Puffy knew
I don't think biggie knew but I think somebody that was with him knew (stretch)
@@pumpkensdiapers1417
How can Puffy protect 2pac from Haitian Jack who they were Co accused in the rape case
2pac was shot afew days before the rape verdict. Biggie had warned 2pac to stay away from Haitian Jack
Puffy and Biggie were all about music business. 2pac knew he was in a tough situation with the rape case, he said it himself in court that it was a set up and tried to blame Haitian Jack but since he knew Jack was dangerous he opted to vent on Biggie and puffy
The Art of Dialogue might be VladTVs one and only competition.. Dope content Art 🤙🏽
This dude got a cool vibe
Just gotta fix his glasses
Facts
@@BtrDaze he gotta take’em off. Why dark shades in the house ? “Dark shades” in interviews always seem disingenuous to me.
I was just just thinking that myself. I mean what a cool character.
You get shot and come out the elevator and everyone is looking at you like "damn he still alive?" Instead of asking what happened.... Yea you wouldn't feel some type of way?
That part #they do'nt be speaking on!# $et up 1o1🤨
Thats pacs perception........not reality. If a nigga punch me in my face and a bystander laughs i might PERCEIVE them to be in on it....but that might not be reality. U niggas lack critcal thinking skills
He has a nice speaking voice. Coherent and articulant.
Mamalo
THEE ABSOLUTE BEST BREAKDOWN OF THE GAME SO FAR!!! 🙏🏽
THIS WAS EPIC!!❤💙💯
And makes so much sense explaining what took place and when & where all the beefs began..smh
Everybody seems to focus on the service level but don't pay attention to the puppeteers engineering this west/east coast fued between Bad Boy/Death Row. Those puppeteers are David Kennar and Clive Davis who set back watched all this mess unfold while making uber millions seeing hip hop being slowly destroyed from within. Divide then conquer has been the ultimate chess play made by these puppeteers which no one's paying attention to the shadow figures pulling the strings in the background. Hip Hop is a billion dollar industry and it's unfortunate that Puffy & Suge Knight couldn't see that they were being used as pawns to engineer a Conquer then Divide strategy to ultimately be destroyed. Now Death Row & Bad Boy records are both basically defunct along with the rap industry.
Exactly
Hey you forgot Jimmy Irvine as well
nahhh...stop making excuses..these guys were just stupid and ignorant trying to be thugs
The instigators always doing that!!
Get shyt started, then walk away whistling, unscathed most times, playing the "nut role" like they don't know their involvement!!
It confuses me on how is that Puff had done so many people wrong those close to him and those far from him and yet no one pulled up on him. He had to remove Kirk out of his own company and the man did nothing how is this even possible
You really want a answer or you just making a statement?
CIA intelligence there you go
Biggie called Hot 97 and said Brooklyn stand up 2Pac and Tha Dogg Pound is here filming a video and 2Pac wasn’t even there and Tha Dogg Pound video trailer got hit I’m tired of people from NY saying Biggie wasn’t about beefing with Pac he was always doing sneak disses
shut up 🙄🙄🙄
fact my G
Tupac was not there, west coast knew that wasn't cool
💯 💯 💯 FACTZ!!!
You Right, 100% true, and Snoop a Fake too, he was pushing the beef, and now acts like he never Did, fucc Snoop
92-97 was a crazy time in rap … from the start actually hip hop was like 17-18 years old in 1996
Message folks: this the real reason why beef started it was already tension between label bosses in which would be top dog..then the tóp artist had tensions so Tupac put more fuel saying the whole east coast we riding on em west...but really all his issues was with NY....thank you Art for content getting real backstory on important time in history....it was lots of violence during this time coast vs coast, gangs, schools, people in streets getting in on it ..they had so many NAACP, Islam meetings to end the beef.. call truce it was getting out of hand 95-96
Over 20 years later and these dudes can't rest in peace. Its just makes me sick to my stomach two kids lost their father, and a mother lost her son over nothing. Black ppl still dying in vein.
It's sad how some of these young cats glorify them dying more then learning from them. It's mostly outsiders though. Blessings beloved..✊🏾
Let’s Diddy then so everyone can Rest In Peace
Both 2pac and Biggie lost their lives over their egos. And over their actual beef with each other
2Pac and Biggie died because of cream puffs actions.
@@akeemMagic01
I've never seen anymore glorified their deaths before.
PAC put too much faith in their ability to stop gangsters from doing what they do. Rappers are rappers, period. They not gangsters. At least on the east coast.
Or on the Westcoast. All over the world you have CB4 rappers.
@@johanmassy5290 Sweat From My Balls!!
Never heard this angle from an east coast/bad boy affiliate. Defo adds meat to the bones.
No bleeping meat to nothing. He telling tales
@@Mobam989 how is he telling tales? this has been the most accurate depiction of what happened
I like how he wiped his head as soon as he brought up Suge... Thats some serious PTSD
I do the same thing, I even hide my jewelry before saying his name.
@@Eman-xf2pn😂😂😂😂
kirk explained everything so elegantly from the street beef and music beef
Most people don’t know that pac was either vengeful or loved you! No in between!
Gemini ♊. I'm a Gemini our sign is twins, either we like you or dislike you based on how you treat us.
It just always bother me that ppl say biggie loved PAC, but not once biggie visit pac in jail, or afterwards.... so that piece always is get me Real Homies don’t move like That. Pac said that himself how biggie never came after he was shot that’s 18 months afterwards and not one conversation
He actually tried to pac decline
Honestly, I can't ride for a cat/brother I'm cool with but he's always running his big mouth!!
Not gone happen for me cuz I don't roll like dat personally & I feel Big may not have wanted to get too close to date vibe as well.
Snoop did so at the awards that time and honestly looked real less Kool when he did, though I felt what he was getting at.
NY audience loved Snoop.
NY wasn't ready for dat transition of not being THE KING of Hip Hop for a spell as a result of the West & up & coming South!!
@@qwammienewsome1357 yall love making excuses for big...but every move pac made gets broken down about how wrong yall felt he was.
@@erichawkins7305 Right is right & wrong is wrong and I don't care who it is!! I've had to pull my Daddio to the side a time or to & even my Mom to express my take on things they've done or what have You!
Again, if my potnas ran they mouth like Pac did, we couldn't be but so close. I didn't personally know Pac, but he seemed to 2ant You to ride with him against cats he wasn't cool wit.
It's folk I ain't cool wit that my dude is & vice versa.
Jus cuz I don't doesn't mean I need my dude/good brother to not be cool wit that same person I'm not.
Pac had a beautiful & great heart, was about people, etc, but he also had things going on with him I couldn't roll wit.
@@qwammienewsome1357 pac is the most criticized rapper of all time. I'm still trying to figure out how come everybody else gets a pass ,but him.
Kirk wassup with the "Rick james" look! Lol
Just teasing kirk😄
Tupac: The Most Prolific Artist to have Lived Thus Far
😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
Most articulate explanation I've heard thus far on this.
I love that ancient Nubian art on his wall
Pac said multiple times he loves the East,his problem was with certain individuals who came at him and those who he felt should've had his back but then you had opportunist who saw a chance to get into the lime light and capitalize off the situation. Rest in Love to both Pac and Big I only wished we could have seen things resolved and both lived to their full potential.
I like this man's presentation and his carriage. Interesting narration of events...
Salute to Art Of Dialogue & Kirk. Kirk knows a lot in regards to Puff and Bad Boy Entertainment. I will say that I think the robbery/shooting at Quad Studio of 2Pac in 1994 was to discipline 2Pac for dissin' certain individuals in the media/press at the time. Nothing more or less.
😄😄 thanks for the chuckle
@@stockstock6805 What chuckle? What's funny?🤷🏾♂️
@@sms130official u and ur deposit 😄
Nah Jimmy was tryna extort Pac he wasnt going for that shit
And you my friend you will never ever.. ever be a journalist that's an impossibility
Wendy Day is one of the gems of this culture. She is still doing great work to this day. WENDY DAY. We havent worked together yet, but I thank you for you being you!! Yodel at me if you see this. Art you shouldve known about her. smh
Golden info there at the end!!
Damm this Brotha's VIBE👌💯 is outta this world.He presents(ARTICULATES) his PRESPECTIVE of what went dwn when he was around the industry back then in very CALMY MANNER👍👌.#MUCHRESPECT
Bro wtf does that even mean...I swear yall glorify dumb shyt
Vibe outta this world. Hopefully you’re a woman
@@KelvinMick-q5u nah yo gay asf lls
@@KelvinMick-q5u the over saturation of VIBE in the comments tho...imagine using the work vibe..but never walk on grass barefoot lmao
@@qram281 Imagine being grown and never growing up
Very well spoken dude. Nice for a change.
I wished he was like my uncle or something. I'd love to listen to him talk about all this stuff all day 💯
where's the letter? Please Art or Kirk we need to see the letter.....Thank you!
Wendy Day is legendary! She is responsible for a lot in hip hop from 2pac to wu tang to cash money she’s made deals for legends from east to west!!!!
Yup and she was a huge Pac fan. She still shows him a lot of love to this day
Kirk speak alot of facts good dude
Next episode,
Art: So my man, in the song "Long kiss goodnight" when Biggie said "I'll make yo mouthpiece obese like Della Reese" was he talking about Puffy?
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that's wild how he send letter but chilly
finally someone from badboy keeping it 100
You think big Gene be lying on these interviews?
This man's hand gesture game is on another level 😂
folks need to stop saying he went west or other variations of that statement. pac had been on the west coast. he’s bay area.
Facts.. He was already with digital underground. I don’t give a damn where he was born. Everyone knows Pac from a west coast group. So how did he go west after he was shot, when he was already with the west? And he skipped over the part of why did Big drop who shot ya. That’s what really ignited the beef and that out of Tupac’s own mouth.
@@bronxcali4891 i think most pac fans including me are well aware of this. point being pacs career as a serious musician began on the west coast. from digital underground, and all his studio albums are west coast, oakland-bay area influenced. there’s no debate to be had.
@@bronxcali4891 he was thug not gangster
@@bronxcali4891Before I even address this, wtf does this have to do with what she said or what dude said? He was already out West and that's a fact. Was repping it on songs and everything.
PAC was bicoastal born and raised on the East and then later came out West. He actually lived in Decatur, Georgia during the time he was going to jail. But he was always in New York working producers and hanging with people back there. He loved Cali but he loved the East Coast as well..
Great interview
Biggie said he knew but Warnes him... only thing is his warning was to stay away from Jack but not the plot. Let's keep it 💯
Pac was a grown man. If BIG told him to stay away from someone and Pac dealt with them anyway what else could anyone do? Natural consequences.
& Big was wearing Pac jewels afterwards
This guy denies knowing Tupac would be attacked or shot. But doesn’t deny knowing who did it. That’s the problem with the “ no snitch “ code. If a friend robs a friend you think the victim doesn’t deserve justice? Basically, you betrayed your friends trust.
How aint he talking about the killing of suges friend at the club? That started the beef before pac. Look how Sean treated wolf 🐺 he's a snake 🐍
What did Diddy do to Wolf? Last time I checked, Wolf got smoked by a goon from BMF.
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un he never paid him anything. Gene Deal talks about this
EXCELLENT content (as always), and I really believe Kirk.
...I just wish I could straighten his glasses.
Shit's killin' me, LOL!!
Big wasn’t involved but Henchmen, a known affiliate of Puff Daddy did indeed set up Tupac. So Puffy in turn may have known! That’s why on “Against All Odds” Pac never mentioned Biggie! Pac & Big would’ve made up after Big left Puff and Pac left Suge imo.
I said the same thing when I commented on the Cease interview! Pac never mentioned biggie in against all odds! That's telling when he said "this is the realest shit I ever wrote" ppl gotta pay attention biggie just got caught in the middle
Puff definitely knew
@@donaldb93 been saying same thing for a minute. Against all odds>long kiss
@@michaela5811 long kiss goodnight I would've respected it more if it came out when Pac was alive that's why PAC won that battle to me
Different time back then. It came out on his album, as opposed to “hit ‘em up” coming out on a mixtape. The artist has little control of when their album comes out.
This interview is iconic Art. Good Shit
MJB was in a very good place when this man managed her! much respect!
Thorough dude right here ✅
Awesome.
I need this entire interview😯😲
Biggie didn't know pac was goin get robbed at the studio..but biggie did knew who did it...biggie was scared to tell pac who did it cause he might say something..dats y pac said fear is stronger then love
Ya info is wrong, biggie had already warned pac jack was shiesty and pac went back and told jack, which got biggie robbed. Pac is stupid if he think biggie goona ride with him against a kingpin who litteraly has hitmen working for him.
@@6thbr871 jack never shot pac ....
@@bweezy565 went know jack didn't shoot him but some of his peoples did
@@ryandavis6245 yea cause jimmy set it up n puffy knew something would have happen
@@bweezy565 or someone could of set it up to were Big and Pac was in the same building together and made them go against each other like they did, but we will never know because we wasn't there or we didn't do the shooting. All we can make is opinions
He knew all he needed 2 know!!! I disrespect Jimmy which was a no no!💪🏽💯
First of all, somebody in that studio new Tupac was coming. That's why he blamed him because it ain't like he was broadcasting his whereabouts everywhere he go. So for them to say they ain't had nothing to do with it I could see how he would think they were lying.
Great content!
finally the real story
@Terence Decker THANK YOU! For years people from NY have tried to paint this picture that Biggie was so above it, and the beef was all Pac. BS! Biggie was involved with that dumb ass East Coast/West Coat beef just as much as Pac was. The only difference was Pac came at Biggie head on, while Biggie stayed being slick and undercover with his disses. I'm fed up with that narrative. Biggie was NOT above it, he just didn't have the balls to come back at Pac head on.
If east coast friends never protected him imagine the west coast label did the same. 2 pac went all out both sides
That prison time on In Ny changed pac and something inside him made him decided he wanted to leave quicker than ever. 🤔
Have you ever been to Rikers? Or known anyone who did time there?? Man listen, it’s not a fun place. It’s a zoo, literally the inmates run the jail and the officers are crooked. I’m sure he wanted to leave asap
@@chanellerogers8862 Pac spent most of his time in Clinton Max upstate new york
@ the same time he realized all his
so called nga's was sum fake ass,
snake azz.. nga's!!! of course, change your whole circle!!✌🏽
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862, have some respect for the dead! What's wrong with you people now?! This generation has no respect and it's sad.
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He's a 2pac troll and a clown. I've owned his ass in plenty of debates in the past on this channel. Just ignore him
I know Kirk for over 30 years.....he is authentic real dude
This going to be dope Kirk B a legend Gene Deal said Kirk and P.Diddy use to pray (🛌) together 😂
I can believe that 💯💪 but Kirk is a well spoken brotha 💯💪 much love 💯💪
@@jerodtabb311 so what if he is well spoken....what does that mean?
Ooooohhhhh Gene was talking about him... I saw that interview when Gene said that... but didn't know it was this dude
@@NGT4LIFE nothing at all 😂 jus was saying he's well spoken and articulate in the way he tell his stories that's all 💯 doesn't mean I believe everything he say tho 💯💪 is my point 💯
2pac felt New York didn’t really had love for him. Cali and Suge embraced him more than any one in New York
He was feeling a way because pac at first didn’t hate nas or biggie or mobb deep
The reason he started to hate these people is because they acted like snakes 🐍
They said one thing but acted differently behind your back
Didn't mention that Puffy and Henchmen were there and Biggie didn't even know Puffy was there. Tut, who shot Pac is Henchens boy and right hand dude.
West side up
Master communicator
I'm trying hard to not watch these clips because i wanna watch the whole interview but it's just too compelling considering who and what he was to the company. I know he knows all the inside stuff that I've wondered about for years.
Biggie definitely wasn’t being referred to as “King of New York” when Pac got hit in Quad studio, but he was close enough to the street to know what happened. Even worse, claiming to be “king” post shooting added to the expectations a friend would have after being shot.
They knew but couldn't speak on it. I believe puff knew for sure. Him and Annnndreee.
FACTS
This a sincere interview
Pac shot Above the Rim at the Rucker, great story. It wasnt a team effort it was just a robbery gone bad. NY rappers dont control the streets in NY, the crews do. But Wendy is a beast, she helped Master P and Cash Money as well.
It was not a robbery at all. Tupac's own surgeon who operated on him clearly said the bullet wounds indicated a murder attempt, nothing less.
@@TheHumanBallsack initially they came to rob him. When pac didn’t comply it turned into attempted murder as most robberies do
I thought one of the guys that robbed him at quad said he was paid a couple thousand by Puffy. Even stole PAC ring and gave it to his girlfriend lol
Art u definitely gotta get a Wendy Day interview, good people
Soon as he said ‘Pac went to jail on a rape charge’ made me realise he’s not Pac’s people.
That “Mouth piece and insult” remarks was *imo* about Suge’s infamous “Executive Producer” comments.
What it sounds like to me is everything happened in the moment and not nobody was thing straight about the situation nobody was willing talk an settle It without violence instead of squashing it they let in turn into a war but nobody’s perfect we’re only human at the end of the an we don’t know the future or what it holds just in the moment reacting out anger and emotions
During one of Pac interviews he said after being shot he reached out to Big on multiple occasions trying to inquire what really happened at the studio. But Big kept avoiding him. This is what escalated the situation.
I always wondered why didn't Biggie never reached out to 2Pac whilst he was in prison. No visits or money in his books?
Basically he’s said the media and record companies knew that attention, drama, etc would sell so they pumped it up. He’s talking but he’s not saying exactly everything. They knew these 20ish year olds would get money but nothing compared if they were killed and could blame the artist. Like suge said he had the formula and Jimmie iovine stole it
It would have been dope to hear Pac & Biggie part facts 💯
“Biggie would have done anything to help him”.
Releases “Who Shot Ya?” after 2pac is shot.
Releases The Long Kiss Goodnight after 2pac dies.
Performs The Long Kiss Goodnight on LA radio live after 2pac dies.
Wow, Biggie must have really been an idiot if he never meant any of those things 🤔
Clickbait. It wasnt a letter from tupac, it was 3 letters on a napkin!
That whole Biggie being the King of NY being the reason why he should have known who did & prevented it is the goofiest shit I’ve ever heard. It’s LIKR everyone including fans knew Pac was into all kinds of shit. As impulsive as he is & the fact that he’s from NY he could have been into all kinds of shit Biggie didn’t know about. I have friends I love that always get into shit I get hesitant jumping off the cliff cause u just don’t know wtf going on. If I’m there & shit going down I don’t waste time trying to figure out who what why. I’m just whooping ass & find out later. But if I don’t know wtf happen & I wasn’t there I’m not trying anything to jump off the cliff for a homie I know gets into shit especially if they the type that gets drunk b& wanna fight every time they sipping on HEN ROCK. Plus if I’m Biggie who’s career Is just starting to pop, I’m married with kids that changes any real man’s perspective. Stop blaming Biggie
Factz!! 💯🤞🏾
I can feel you on this, but at the same time, why didn’t he visit Pac in prison, why did they release ”who shot ya”. I think getting shot 5 times, robbed, and getting framed and put in prison for a crime you didn’t commit, changes you
Facts. Tupac was moving real reckless but if you say that mofos will attack you.
Smart man, u see through the pac was innocent BS. Biggie and Mike Tyson warned him about Jack. People with a half of brain know the term "king of New York" came from his favorite movie at the time. Pac disrespected Jimmy Henchmen on the phone over being paid via check instead of cash. Who tells everyone (including pac's friends) that he's gonna get him before hand?
Explain big wearing pac's rings in damn near ever pic after that... "See you in the street, your jewelry you can keep it that'll be our lil secret" 🤫
Nobody's gonna mention what Kirk did at 1:59 after mentioning Suge's name?