for that person who mentioned a video on Tim Burton's post-millennium career, Brooey Deschannel just dropped a video on exactly that (and it's really good)
It's like a different zack Snyder exist in each phase of production. Pre production he's obsessed with the mythology, filming he's obsessed with characters and actors, and in post he's obsessed with the scope and grandness. It's almost like in editing he's like "it's not badass enough, turn it up"
I would argue James Wan is a himbo auteur. All his movies feel distinctly James Wan, even when he's working with massive budgets. He comes across as very excitable and down to earth in interviews and some of his short films (particularly Doggie Heaven) feel like he decided to put time and money into a project just because he chuckled at the concept. He's also a bit of a wife guy but not in the sexist/compensating way. I think Leigh Whannell (James Wan's close friend and frequent collaborator) was also in himbo territory when he was doing movie reviews on TV and screenwriting/acting but I think as he moves into his own arteurship he's shed his himboness.
Your comment on Sydney Lumet reminded me of something John Clease said in a talk I went to with him 20 years ago at Cornell. He said directors were not important to the creative process of a film. If you want to be a writer with more creative impact, you should strive to be a writer producer. My immediate thought was that directors are not all that creative in HIS movies. His films are typically driven creatively by the writing. But that's just because of the kinds of films he does.
I wonder if the dial on it has shifted too. Now you see a sort of assumption that directors must also be writers/outright auteurs. Witness the people who talk about what brilliant writers the Russos are, when their MCU stuff is largely handled by Marcus and McFeely
@@blokey8 That's been true forever in cinema. My favorite video store, Kims on St. Marks Place in NYC (back when video stores existed) sorted their DVDs and VHS tapes by director.
@@Sam_on_TH-cam That's a fair point. I was thinking mostly (but hadn't articulated) that for a lot of my generation, the first time we really took notice of a director's name on a new film was when we saw "written and directed by Christopher Nolan" at the end of Batman Begins. Well, "directed by Christopher Nolan" and "written by Christopher and Jonathan Nolan", but in my head, that's the root of it for a lot of people.
@@blokey8 When were you born? Because credits like that were big in some films before I was born as well, if the director was Speilberg, Lucas, Coppola, or Scorsese. In the 90s, when I got into film, written and directed by credits were a pretty mainstream big deal from directors like Smith, Tarrantino, or "a Spike Lee Joint." And smaller, indie films, have always been known by their director, like Jarmusch, Fuller, Jeanette or countless others not as famous.
Forever Red is so good, and really doesn't require too much knowledge of power rangers other than the Red Ranger is cool. Every special episode of Power Rangers is a banger
Didn't mention this in the initial video, but while I am not too fond of Man of Steel, there is one scene I love. When Clark as a kid is hearing everyone and his mom has to calm him down was so sweet and showed how his powers are initially affecting him.
Love your work! I’d be curious to see a retrospective of Rian Johnson’s filmography especially how he draws inspiration from classic works. Film noir and brick, the odyssey/Ulysses and the brothers bloom, Oedipus and Looper, Christiesque mysteries and knives out etc. (I guess one could make the argument the last Jedi is an adaptation of a Star Wars story rather than actually being one)
I saw a ga'hoole movie when I was a kid. At that time, I really liked that movie even though I didn't understand most of it. It had cool action sequences for a kids movie.
I really liked the talk show episode you did where you did short follow ups on a handful of videos. If you did short follows up to new movies, I’d watch.
Compare the faithfulness of Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange to the unfaithfulness of Kubrick's The Shining as adaptations, and they're both fucking amazing movies.
If you're watching 80s skate movies you gotta watch Gleaming the Cube. Tony Hawk, Christian Slater... it's exactly what you'd imagine but also pure gold
I feel like Paul W.S. Anderson possibly fits the bill as "himbo auteur"? I might have thought of him because Patrick drew the comparison in the essay when discussing videogame influence, but his films definitely feel like they proceed from a similar impulse to put "awesome" or "badass" images on-screen.
I think a staple component of 'himboism' is being too meatheaded to do anything insensitive or mean. Zack seems to be trying his best, and his 'iffyness' seems to come off unintentional. Michael Bay is deliberately representing women and minorities in belittling light, which excludes him from any act of himbotude.
I guess I'm going to be the contrarian but Cox is my favorite Hannibal Lecter. Though to be fair to Mikkelsen, I haven't seen the series. And that isn't really a dig at Hopkins, I love him and he's great. But really, it's just the two takes on the character where Hopkins is so over the top, and at times kind of cartoonishly chewing scenery. I mean, he's still great at what he's doing and makes those movies, I just find Cox a little more interesting because he seems more normal, but with this darkness lurking in him. And Cox of course nails it. Sorry, I'm a Cox man.
Ditto. There's something about his characterization that's more menacing - he's smart, but so direct and cutting. He gives us so much in just a couple of scenes - and I'm happy to be the contrarian hipster, as fun as the others are.
It's the coldness of the first time we meet him and than he makes that phonecall to someone's secretary (I think) and comes across as a regular charming persona, those scenes tell us everything we need to know who he is, just a shame we didn't get more of him.
I kind of enjoyed how irritated you were with responding to the guy at the end who was like "it doesn't glorify violence," because that's a case of...did you even watch these movies, dude?
40:37 Incredibly late, but Timo Tjahjanto is absolutely a himbo auteur. A really laid back guy who you'd love to have a drink with, who just so happens to make awesome movies about bloodshed.
Hear me out: Airheads is the MOST 90’s movie in existence. Think about it. The actors, the cameos, the story, the music….it has Beavis and Butthead calling in to a radio station, Kramer acting all crazy, Adam Sandler doing his “stupid guy” thing, etc. etc. etc.
it's like the HBO prison show OZ, there could be a 3 minute monologue about man's relationship to God or how morality can be transient in society, and I'm pretty sure Zack Synder would just focus on the cafeteria riot and how to make it as slow mo as possible
My thing with the Batman no kill rule is not even just the morality. It's a legal thing. When boiled down to it Batman is essentially a PI right? And it's not like Private Investogators are legally allowed to murder people. Batman isn't allowed to beat people up to but assault charges on from criminals to Batman would probably be easier to remove for Gordon than if there were a bunch of court dates about why Batman decided to kill each and every criminal.
First question response: when has the seal been broken for it to be "ok" to recast an actor for a roll. Is film the end goal for all media (books, video games, ect.) , How many Indiana Jones movies that have been recast or adaptations in other media need to be made until it's ok to recast because it's been done enough like wolverine. Should the fist adaptation of wolverine not have been made because he was already done "perfectly" the first time in the books? Where is the line?
Yo what, my coworker just made me watch Thrashin a little while ago. He was like "this was my favorite movie growing up" and then gave me the dvd and I watched it. It's pretty good, I enjoyed it
A great 80s movie that has a very 80s song is To Live And Die In LA directed by William Friedkin and the title track by Wang Chung. In fact I know about this because Bill Bur watched it and commented on how movies can be ruined by their soundtracks, but I loved it lol.
Some remakes really don't need to be remakes. If Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan had starred in a movie called "The Kung Fu Kid" and the film was otherwise 100% the same as we go, it would have been better received. You want to remake Indiana Jones? Make a spiritual successor instead of a remake. You could make a different swashbuckling archaeologist retro character. Besides, Indiana Jones is a terrible choice for a direct remake because the whole thing was a homage to pulp films, and nobody remembers or cares about those anymore.
I could literally see Josie and the Pussycats being characters in Batman Forever as not only have I believe riverdale's crossed over with Batman in the comics but they're all under the WB Banner
Excellent screenwriting/fiction-in-general book: Matt Bird's THE SECRETS OF STORY. Based on his blog, used to be called "Cockeyed Caravan," now called THE SECRETS OF STORY also. Really helped me understand structure & character.
Keep up the good work Patrick. I love talking movies and many times I dont have anybody to do it with. Even when I disagree with you, movies (and talking about them) should make us better people. So kudos
Hi Patrick, I think you’re so amazing, I think your videos are maybe some of the most gripping of the whole TH-cam universe. I just am dying to know please, dear God, tell me what you think of the man who killed Don Quixote? And it’s making an unmaking! What does that even mean? Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you you’re amazing, I trust anything you have to say thank you.
Drives me crazy when people say that Zach Snyder "made" 300 fascist. Read any interview with Frank Miller! Frank Miller went crazy on 9/11. And frankly Dark Knight Returns is pretty fucking fascist on its face too. Stop blaming Snyder.
kinda funny to hear his take on adaptations and hyper faithful adaptations after watching the adaptation episode that practically completely disagrees. glad he changed his views to be honest
Most Marvel stuff is in 2.35:1 because there is less information to render. For shows with that much GFX, it's actually a good way to save time and money. That said, when they do decide to go IMAX it's glorious, but also, way more data to crunch, render, and manage.
I was also curious about Pat's response to the question about Star Wars narrative beats which don't neccessary make sense &/or literal story device etc. etc. Partially because I also didn't really understand where that question was coming from but I simultaneously do get a sense of what they were driving at. I wonder if that's just an issue of general thematic tropes and narrative story devices which at times can feel cliche? Like just things that movies do. I'm honestly being sincere and not at all trying to be sarcastic or insulting. I find there's certain times one watches any film and the story can flow very smoothly and you're really "in it" then other times that same movie can give a rather different experience where you might get obsessed with or distracted by a particular element which can alter one's perspective on the moment or the entire experience. That's why it can be so frustrating how parts of todays culture will automatically dismiss a certain film based on one single viewing not necessarily taking into account that what you get from any experience is determined as much by what you bring to it as what the thing is. Objective vs subjective I suppose. So much of the films which are considered classic masterpieces today were actually box office bombs & very under appreciated in their time. I suppose I personally can be more immediately critical against alot of the franchise & blockbuster stuff because so much clearly only exists because of marketing momentum and rarely bringing anything new (NOT always but much of the time), when it comes to the more unique and obscure I usually crave that but if I don't I really try my best to reserve judgment until at least a second viewing or some good length of time goes by.
I haven't seen all his stuff but my Lumet take is that he should be seen in conversation with Agnes Varda, the journeyman alongside the artist, both deeply concerned with humane and kind understandings of the everyday. 12 Angry Man and Dog Day are obvious points but even in Before The Devil Knows You're Dead I feel his unconditional love he has for these people despite them being shitty - beyond the simplistic "making unlikeable characters compelling", I feel sincere pity and disappointment because he believes in them. This, of course, makes Network even more startling: a brilliant but bleak, cynical, and invective movie that stands out as a bitter jewel in the crown of one of the most humanist filmographies.
So I wanted to see if there were any directors I think are Himbo Auteurs. Here's my contribution: Enzo Barboni, Joe Cornish, Kevin Smith? (I haven't actually seen any of his movies, but he wears a hockey jersey every day), and um, Tom Hanks??? Anyway, it's far from an exhaustive list and I bet a lot of the directors of so-bad-they're-good movies likely qualify too.
LIVE EVENT pair a film or two with a particular video essay - go into further details at some point of extra research and stuff that didnt fit in the video
Out of the three picks for a movie night pairing for "Night of the Living Coconut" I'd go with Josie and the Pussycats, and definitely play that first.
I'm pretty sure that Eli Roth constitutes what we've defined as a "himbo auteur" - and in the traditional sense, they're both attractive albeit vacuous men, i.e. a himbo.
I'm pretty sure Dan Olson from Folding Ideas streamed the PS3 Owl Movie: The Video Game at some point and it was a nightmarish and buggy dogfighting game?You should start a twitch and play it.
I'm guessing She-Hulk is in CinemaScope ratio because the framing lends itself better to not having to render a full head-to-toe She-Hulk in CGI. (Just spitballin'.)
Regarding adaptations - isn't it, like, Kubrick's "thing" to make pretty faithful adaptations of not necessarily great literature, which really transcend the source material? But I do think it works mostly with straightforward and at most middlebrow literature. Like, you can easily make a great LotR movie adaptation, because if it's made well enough (as Jackson's is) it can actually be a pretty good substitute for reading it, while adapting, let's say, Gravity's Rainbow in a straightforward manner is a fool's errand. You really have to have some twist, a different approach to even try to make stuff like this work, like with The French Lieutenant's Woman or Jonze-Kaufman Adaptation.
I think the thing with Indiana Jones is that it absolutely rules because Steven Spielberg has directed them all and it would not be the same without that factor. Harrison Ford IS great but I feel like recasting is achievable with that role.
@@mainstreetsaint36 I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with it, and I do enjoy it in isolation... but I do think a new score by someone like Ross & Reznor would really compliment and elevate this film.
This is big hot take but I think Sean Patrick Flannery is a SLIGHTLY better Indiana Jones than Harrison Ford, his character is just more complex, likeable and interesting and I would love to see an Indy movie where he takes on the role in say the 1940s, maybe even with old Harrison Ford going on his own adventure in the 70s where he completes Sean's incomplete adventure. I know I'm alone in this but I can dream haha.
for that person who mentioned a video on Tim Burton's post-millennium career, Brooey Deschannel just dropped a video on exactly that (and it's really good)
Here's the link to her video if anyone wants it:
th-cam.com/video/xcM4nYKtV58/w-d-xo.html
It was hilarious to see that question pop up when I just watched her video this morning.
Spit out my pudding at "he's not a himbo he's a scary maniac"
It's like a different zack Snyder exist in each phase of production. Pre production he's obsessed with the mythology, filming he's obsessed with characters and actors, and in post he's obsessed with the scope and grandness. It's almost like in editing he's like "it's not badass enough, turn it up"
I would argue James Wan is a himbo auteur. All his movies feel distinctly James Wan, even when he's working with massive budgets. He comes across as very excitable and down to earth in interviews and some of his short films (particularly Doggie Heaven) feel like he decided to put time and money into a project just because he chuckled at the concept. He's also a bit of a wife guy but not in the sexist/compensating way. I think Leigh Whannell (James Wan's close friend and frequent collaborator) was also in himbo territory when he was doing movie reviews on TV and screenwriting/acting but I think as he moves into his own arteurship he's shed his himboness.
Nah he’s good but it’s not that deep
His filmography almost feels too diverse, if that makes sense
@@StudioInkblot yeah kinda but auteurs can have diverse filmographies. they don't always have to be journeymen
@@StudioInkblot yeah but you can watch malignant and then aquaman and they're clearly directed by the same dude
He's terrible.
A Patrick Willems Variety Show would have to be amazing.
There is already an adaptation of God of War and it's called The Northman.
Your comment on Sydney Lumet reminded me of something John Clease said in a talk I went to with him 20 years ago at Cornell. He said directors were not important to the creative process of a film. If you want to be a writer with more creative impact, you should strive to be a writer producer.
My immediate thought was that directors are not all that creative in HIS movies. His films are typically driven creatively by the writing. But that's just because of the kinds of films he does.
I wonder if the dial on it has shifted too. Now you see a sort of assumption that directors must also be writers/outright auteurs. Witness the people who talk about what brilliant writers the Russos are, when their MCU stuff is largely handled by Marcus and McFeely
@@blokey8 That's been true forever in cinema. My favorite video store, Kims on St. Marks Place in NYC (back when video stores existed) sorted their DVDs and VHS tapes by director.
@@Sam_on_TH-cam That's a fair point. I was thinking mostly (but hadn't articulated) that for a lot of my generation, the first time we really took notice of a director's name on a new film was when we saw "written and directed by Christopher Nolan" at the end of Batman Begins. Well, "directed by Christopher Nolan" and "written by Christopher and Jonathan Nolan", but in my head, that's the root of it for a lot of people.
@@blokey8 When were you born? Because credits like that were big in some films before I was born as well, if the director was Speilberg, Lucas, Coppola, or Scorsese. In the 90s, when I got into film, written and directed by credits were a pretty mainstream big deal from directors like Smith, Tarrantino, or "a Spike Lee Joint." And smaller, indie films, have always been known by their director, like Jarmusch, Fuller, Jeanette or countless others not as famous.
@@Sam_on_TH-cam early 90s. This is a very shaky theory, I must admit, and one which I've never tested
Forever Red is so good, and really doesn't require too much knowledge of power rangers other than the Red Ranger is cool. Every special episode of Power Rangers is a banger
Didn't mention this in the initial video, but while I am not too fond of Man of Steel, there is one scene I love. When Clark as a kid is hearing everyone and his mom has to calm him down was so sweet and showed how his powers are initially affecting him.
Love your work! I’d be curious to see a retrospective of Rian Johnson’s filmography especially how he draws inspiration from classic works. Film noir and brick, the odyssey/Ulysses and the brothers bloom, Oedipus and Looper, Christiesque mysteries and knives out etc. (I guess one could make the argument the last Jedi is an adaptation of a Star Wars story rather than actually being one)
I saw a ga'hoole movie when I was a kid. At that time, I really liked that movie even though I didn't understand most of it. It had cool action sequences for a kids movie.
I really liked the talk show episode you did where you did short follow ups on a handful of videos. If you did short follows up to new movies, I’d watch.
Compare the faithfulness of Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange to the unfaithfulness of Kubrick's The Shining as adaptations, and they're both fucking amazing movies.
If you're watching 80s skate movies you gotta watch Gleaming the Cube. Tony Hawk, Christian Slater... it's exactly what you'd imagine but also pure gold
I feel like Paul W.S. Anderson possibly fits the bill as "himbo auteur"? I might have thought of him because Patrick drew the comparison in the essay when discussing videogame influence, but his films definitely feel like they proceed from a similar impulse to put "awesome" or "badass" images on-screen.
I screamed "YES" when you said Josie and the Pussycats for the double feature pairing so I guess that's my vote
BRO! When you read the question about realizing movies could be bad, my VERY FIRST THOUGHT was Mortal Kombat Annihalation!!!
I think a staple component of 'himboism' is being too meatheaded to do anything insensitive or mean. Zack seems to be trying his best, and his 'iffyness' seems to come off unintentional. Michael Bay is deliberately representing women and minorities in belittling light, which excludes him from any act of himbotude.
I guess I'm going to be the contrarian but Cox is my favorite Hannibal Lecter. Though to be fair to Mikkelsen, I haven't seen the series. And that isn't really a dig at Hopkins, I love him and he's great.
But really, it's just the two takes on the character where Hopkins is so over the top, and at times kind of cartoonishly chewing scenery. I mean, he's still great at what he's doing and makes those movies, I just find Cox a little more interesting because he seems more normal, but with this darkness lurking in him. And Cox of course nails it. Sorry, I'm a Cox man.
Ditto. There's something about his characterization that's more menacing - he's smart, but so direct and cutting. He gives us so much in just a couple of scenes - and I'm happy to be the contrarian hipster, as fun as the others are.
It's the coldness of the first time we meet him and than he makes that phonecall to someone's secretary (I think) and comes across as a regular charming persona, those scenes tell us everything we need to know who he is, just a shame we didn't get more of him.
I kind of enjoyed how irritated you were with responding to the guy at the end who was like "it doesn't glorify violence," because that's a case of...did you even watch these movies, dude?
I still support the use of "bro-teur" over "himbo auteur". Also, I'd love a physical copy of Night of the Coconut.
40:37 Incredibly late, but Timo Tjahjanto is absolutely a himbo auteur. A really laid back guy who you'd love to have a drink with, who just so happens to make awesome movies about bloodshed.
Francis Ford Coconut?
I think Neveldine and Taylor deserve the “Himbo Auteur” moniker but only together.
Hear me out: Airheads is the MOST 90’s movie in existence. Think about it. The actors, the cameos, the story, the music….it has Beavis and Butthead calling in to a radio station, Kramer acting all crazy, Adam Sandler doing his “stupid guy” thing, etc. etc. etc.
it's like the HBO prison show OZ, there could be a 3 minute monologue about man's relationship to God or how morality can be transient in society, and I'm pretty sure Zack Synder would just focus on the cafeteria riot and how to make it as slow mo as possible
My thing with the Batman no kill rule is not even just the morality. It's a legal thing. When boiled down to it Batman is essentially a PI right? And it's not like Private Investogators are legally allowed to murder people. Batman isn't allowed to beat people up to but assault charges on from criminals to Batman would probably be easier to remove for Gordon than if there were a bunch of court dates about why Batman decided to kill each and every criminal.
"Snyder's not a war criminal" BOOM GOT EM
First question response: when has the seal been broken for it to be "ok" to recast an actor for a roll. Is film the end goal for all media (books, video games, ect.) , How many Indiana Jones movies that have been recast or adaptations in other media need to be made until it's ok to recast because it's been done enough like wolverine. Should the fist adaptation of wolverine not have been made because he was already done "perfectly" the first time in the books? Where is the line?
Yo what, my coworker just made me watch Thrashin a little while ago. He was like "this was my favorite movie growing up" and then gave me the dvd and I watched it. It's pretty good, I enjoyed it
Pretty sure Take On Me by Ah-Ha is the most 80s song...maybe Video Killed The Radio Star.
The 👍🏾 to the Dad Joke at the end was chef's kiss🤌
The takedown of D KAMARA MAN or whatever his dork name is was the best part. Very well said. STOP BEING DORKS ya nerds
I would 100% buy Night of the Coconut bluray if available!
Thank you for adding video chapters!
A great 80s movie that has a very 80s song is To Live And Die In LA directed by William Friedkin and the title track by Wang Chung. In fact I know about this because Bill Bur watched it and commented on how movies can be ruined by their soundtracks, but I loved it lol.
Anthony Burgess thought A Clockwork Orange movie makes the book redudant.
Great pronunciation on de camara man, Patrick!🤣🤣
22:59 if i remember right, the first ant-man was also shot in a taller aspect ratio, i think they did this because of the shrinking effect.
Some remakes really don't need to be remakes. If Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan had starred in a movie called "The Kung Fu Kid" and the film was otherwise 100% the same as we go, it would have been better received.
You want to remake Indiana Jones? Make a spiritual successor instead of a remake. You could make a different swashbuckling archaeologist retro character.
Besides, Indiana Jones is a terrible choice for a direct remake because the whole thing was a homage to pulp films, and nobody remembers or cares about those anymore.
A live Talk Show would be amazing
I could literally see Josie and the Pussycats being characters in Batman Forever as not only have I believe riverdale's crossed over with Batman in the comics but they're all under the WB Banner
I wonder if Paul W.S. Anderson has a beef with Snyder, causing Anderson to rip off the cold open in Dawn of the Dead
Me and a friend (a your Patreon) eventually buy a physical edition of NOTC, and we live in Italy XD.
My 2 cents, the most 80s movie ever is Top Gun.
Excellent screenwriting/fiction-in-general book: Matt Bird's THE SECRETS OF STORY. Based on his blog, used to be called "Cockeyed Caravan," now called THE SECRETS OF STORY also. Really helped me understand structure & character.
Himbo Auteur: Eli Roth
The "snider cut" joke did not get nearly the credit it deserved. That was magical.
Keep up the good work Patrick. I love talking movies and many times I dont have anybody to do it with. Even when I disagree with you, movies (and talking about them) should make us better people. So kudos
even a replied comments video is still had quality. kudos
I would absolutely buy a Night of the Coconut blu ray
Love you for the "war criminal" joke/comment
I would totally love a Night of the Coconut bluray!!
space age love song by a flock of seagulls is a contender for the most 80s song
Except for a few differences, No Country for Old Men is essentially the book and I could not live without it.
My viewing of this video included an ad for hairloss remedies, is there a thing going on?
Live Patrick Willem: hold a movie screening but you (Patrick) and your people have mics and go full on Mystery Science Theatre 3000 on that film.
Hi Patrick, I think you’re so amazing, I think your videos are maybe some of the most gripping of the whole TH-cam universe. I just am dying to know please, dear God, tell me what you think of the man who killed Don Quixote? And it’s making an unmaking! What does that even mean? Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you you’re amazing, I trust anything you have to say thank you.
Drives me crazy when people say that Zach Snyder "made" 300 fascist. Read any interview with Frank Miller! Frank Miller went crazy on 9/11. And frankly Dark Knight Returns is pretty fucking fascist on its face too. Stop blaming Snyder.
kinda funny to hear his take on adaptations and hyper faithful adaptations after watching the adaptation episode that practically completely disagrees. glad he changed his views to be honest
Most Marvel stuff is in 2.35:1 because there is less information to render. For shows with that much GFX, it's actually a good way to save time and money. That said, when they do decide to go IMAX it's glorious, but also, way more data to crunch, render, and manage.
I stand by my assertion that I saw that Owl movie in the theater, but I cannot discount the idea that I am from an alternate universe.
I was also curious about Pat's response to the question about Star Wars narrative beats which don't neccessary make sense &/or literal story device etc. etc. Partially because I also didn't really understand where that question was coming from but I simultaneously do get a sense of what they were driving at. I wonder if that's just an issue of general thematic tropes and narrative story devices which at times can feel cliche? Like just things that movies do. I'm honestly being sincere and not at all trying to be sarcastic or insulting. I find there's certain times one watches any film and the story can flow very smoothly and you're really "in it" then other times that same movie can give a rather different experience where you might get obsessed with or distracted by a particular element which can alter one's perspective on the moment or the entire experience. That's why it can be so frustrating how parts of todays culture will automatically dismiss a certain film based on one single viewing not necessarily taking into account that what you get from any experience is determined as much by what you bring to it as what the thing is. Objective vs subjective I suppose. So much of the films which are considered classic masterpieces today were actually box office bombs & very under appreciated in their time. I suppose I personally can be more immediately critical against alot of the franchise & blockbuster stuff because so much clearly only exists because of marketing momentum and rarely bringing anything new (NOT always but much of the time), when it comes to the more unique and obscure I usually crave that but if I don't I really try my best to reserve judgment until at least a second viewing or some good length of time goes by.
I haven't seen all his stuff but my Lumet take is that he should be seen in conversation with Agnes Varda, the journeyman alongside the artist, both deeply concerned with humane and kind understandings of the everyday.
12 Angry Man and Dog Day are obvious points but even in Before The Devil Knows You're Dead I feel his unconditional love he has for these people despite them being shitty - beyond the simplistic "making unlikeable characters compelling", I feel sincere pity and disappointment because he believes in them.
This, of course, makes Network even more startling: a brilliant but bleak, cynical, and invective movie that stands out as a bitter jewel in the crown of one of the most humanist filmographies.
I think you could do a live essay, that's basically a ted talk
So I wanted to see if there were any directors I think are Himbo Auteurs. Here's my contribution: Enzo Barboni, Joe Cornish, Kevin Smith? (I haven't actually seen any of his movies, but he wears a hockey jersey every day), and um, Tom Hanks??? Anyway, it's far from an exhaustive list and I bet a lot of the directors of so-bad-they're-good movies likely qualify too.
Another himbo auteur, and this one may be too obvious: Guy Ritchie. Who could fit the term better?
LIVE EVENT pair a film or two with a particular video essay - go into further details at some point of extra research and stuff that didnt fit in the video
Out of the three picks for a movie night pairing for "Night of the Living Coconut" I'd go with Josie and the Pussycats, and definitely play that first.
I'm pretty sure that Eli Roth constitutes what we've defined as a "himbo auteur" - and in the traditional sense, they're both attractive albeit vacuous men, i.e. a himbo.
I feel Roth would be more like "edgelord auter" or something along those lines.
Forever Red rules!! lol
good talk. i should have had a drink to.
I'm pretty sure Dan Olson from Folding Ideas streamed the PS3 Owl Movie: The Video Game at some point and it was a nightmarish and buggy dogfighting game?You should start a twitch and play it.
Regarding the Scholastic book fair adaptions - Animorphs. No idea who would direct and definitely should be rated R.
For me, the most 80s movie is Real Genius. I don't know if that's a hot take or not, but every 80s trope I can think of is in it.
I demand night of the coconut dvd!
Loving this so much
2:56 or it leaves Hugh’s shoes to fill?
I'm guessing She-Hulk is in CinemaScope ratio because the framing lends itself better to not having to render a full head-to-toe She-Hulk in CGI. (Just spitballin'.)
I would buy a Night of the Coconut Blu ray
I want a NOTC blu ray!
I am in a Patrick vidéo ❤ thank you !
Regarding adaptations - isn't it, like, Kubrick's "thing" to make pretty faithful adaptations of not necessarily great literature, which really transcend the source material?
But I do think it works mostly with straightforward and at most middlebrow literature. Like, you can easily make a great LotR movie adaptation, because if it's made well enough (as Jackson's is) it can actually be a pretty good substitute for reading it, while adapting, let's say, Gravity's Rainbow in a straightforward manner is a fool's errand. You really have to have some twist, a different approach to even try to make stuff like this work, like with The French Lieutenant's Woman or Jonze-Kaufman Adaptation.
Pat, opinions on ‘In The Mouth Of Madness’?
I think the thing with Indiana Jones is that it absolutely rules because Steven Spielberg has directed them all and it would not be the same without that factor. Harrison Ford IS great but I feel like recasting is achievable with that role.
I maintain that a re-edited, newly scored Manhunter would be an incredible film.
What was wrong with the original score?
@@mainstreetsaint36 I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with it, and I do enjoy it in isolation... but I do think a new score by someone like Ross & Reznor would really compliment and elevate this film.
Live event idea: FILM DEBATE! Jk, but I would pay to see Patrick sing live.
I would like to politely demand Night of the Coconut DVD (Red Ray 4 Life!)
Consider a NOTC Blu-Ray demanded...
Darren Aranofsky is my pick for another himbo auteur (and I like Aranofsky quite a bit).
This is big hot take but I think Sean Patrick Flannery is a SLIGHTLY better Indiana Jones than Harrison Ford, his character is just more complex, likeable and interesting and I would love to see an Indy movie where he takes on the role in say the 1940s, maybe even with old Harrison Ford going on his own adventure in the 70s where he completes Sean's incomplete adventure. I know I'm alone in this but I can dream haha.
Alan Smithee lol
9:05 We all know this is not how anyone obtains footage from a movie for anything.
I agree
More Emma, pls
I think the fascism in 300 comes from Frank Miller.
I'm here for Patrick Rates Sandwiches.
immaculate fashion as always
I would probably ask Aronofsky. "Pi" what the actual fuck???
I like the discord questions
Shaman is great. Legends over all is a great run.
Can anybody ID Patrick’s desktop speakers?