War in Ukraine: no place for Russian language and heritage in Odesa • FRANCE 24 English
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- The Russian invasion that began a year ago has left an indelible mark on Ukrainian society. The Russian language is slowly losing ground to Ukrainian, a fact often used by President Vladimir Putin to justify the invasion. Ukraine’s culture including literature, music and art are particularly affected by the growing phenomenon of de-Russification. FRANCE 24 reports from Odesa, a coastal city in southern Ukraine, where Russian language and culture are deeply rooted.
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Katerina was not russian but German and she liberated Ukraine from ottomans !!!
How an statue of a founder of a city is somehow an insult to the ppl living in it ?
Your are going nuts, with the Pancho Villa operation.
democracy at high level!!!
Maybe they should put a statue of Zelensky, Biden and Boris Johnson doing a group hug instead.
Anything is better than a Russian figure.
Those three should be immortalized in a bronze circle-jerk.
Would be hillarious
🤣
Macron and sunak will be jealous. They're not included. 🤣
This is a terrible idea, vilification of your own population, stopping people speaking a language at all is an element of fascism. Not defending the invasion in any way at all just to be Crystal clear. But this gives verbal ammunition to Vladimir Putin making one of his points correct. Why would you give him an easy point like that? Erasing history, culture and a language in general is always a terrible idea. I guarantee most people in Crimea do not want to go back to Ukraine because of something like this. Ukrainian authorities are just shooting themselves in the foot on this one. Disappointing to see really.
You apparently didn't understand. This has all been voted on by the population for one thing. For another, Russian language isn't banned. The law only makes Ukrainian available.
Since 1991 Russia has broadcast propaganda in the country. And did so for 120 years before that.
Sorry not sorry get over it. Ukrainians know more about their history than you do.
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@@masterman1502 “Anyone that disagrees with me is a bot” 🤡
it's clear violation of very basic human right - speak in mother language is anyone very first basic right. you are right its racism
Do you Even understand that derussification started after Maidan 2014 and was The reason why Donbass voted for independence?
You can never change history or facts
But you can't for example now publish 'Mein Kampf' without adding context
oh you can! Ukraine and the west have been trying real hard and it seems to be working
Taking down statues of Catherine, Pushkin, and Koniev and replacing them with "heroes" like Stephan Bandera is just about all I need to know about Ukraine.
& what is it that this tells you?
It didn't change since Bandera's time (even keep burning books)
As an Indian whose family existed throughout the decades of war with Pakistan.
I am… actually shocked by how far these people are going.
They banned…. Russian music? After 1991? Like…. Even during the Indo pak war Bollywood was still popular in Pakistan.
Another thing. You can be fined for writing stuff in Russian…
Which would be considered ridiculous or impossible during the Indo Pak war, Its like banning people from writing Urdu in India despite 72 million reading and writing it.
Its a very bizzare concept to me.
I spent 3 months studying russian at a language school in odessa in 2020. Russian is the primary language of most people in the city. This would be like canada banning the use of French in Montreal. The russian language didn't invade ukraine, the russian army did. Speaking a certain language doesn't make you a bad person and ignoring history doesn't solve today's issues.
Hmm... that is a point, but I would turn that around and say that perhaps we should be promoting the de-Fracophonization of Montreal?
If you wants to speak Russian go to Russia you moscuvite.
@@TheGreenReaper And for what reason? French is a beautiful language. In Switzerland there are 4 official languages and there hasn't been a war there since 1847. In the USA there are many radio and TV stations in Spanish, what's the problem? It's called *tolerance* , a word unknown to vulgar nationalists like the Ukronazis.
Not the same, French is the national language of Canada. And it is Russia tried to band Ukrainian language in THE COUNTRY OF UKRAINE. Russians revolved from Ukraine, they currently want everyone to think the opposite as Russians are the best in the world in their way of thinking. Which is OK in Russia, but to force those around them to their way of thinking is the true definition of NAZI'S. Putin talks as to be looking in a mirror.
It all sounds good in logic until your neighbor takes those Russian speaking people as their citizens. Russian actions follow Germany of world war II. They justify that war by trying to tie together German speaking populations. This is the same thing Russia is doing in Ukraine.
"For 300 years there has been a Jewish Krakow. From now on, those 300 years are a rumor. They never happen".
Amon Goeth, The Schindlers List
They tried to do this in Mariupol nine years ago and look what happened.
Now they are being picked up from the streets by recruitment thugs lelz. Reap what you sow.
the May 2014, Odessa Massacre!
😭😢😢😢😡
Those people who died at those day weren't innocent victims. They were russian nationalists who are known for their ukrainephobic views and they were crashed by those who want to preserve Odesa as a Ukrainian city, inherent part of Ukrainian South.
@@xxvxxv5588 They were literally peacefully protestign with flags and music outside the area and were violently attacked, murdered, burnt, strangled by Ukrainian nationalists, neo nazis, ultranationalists and so on. Pardon me but I think this protest where they didn't hurt anyone, could be considered, innocent.......
@@xxvxxv5588 and that;s why they deserved to be burnt alive?
You should consider replacing any Russian related displays with ones showing the bravery of the Ukrainian people, especially those who lost their lives.
You do realize that this is fascism! People will call me a russian bot for saying so, even though I'm not pro russian at all, I'm a Croatian and I know what we've been through in the 90's and I sympathize with Ukrainians a lot, but just read a history book!
I agree with you 100%
Exactly, they are helping Putin's position by doing things like this. Taking away Russian language was one of his points, just giving him verbal ammunition.
@@ryansurgison3618 They're NOT taking the language away. There is NO law which says you can't have Russian. Zelenskyy himself is a native Russian speaker FFS. What the law says is that Ukrainian as to be available. BIG difference.
@@thysonsacclaim That's true and I know Zelensky's first language is Russian not disputing at all. There was another report a couple of months ago saying all text books in an area (can't remember which) that are in russian would be removed. I'm just saying they shouldn't stray into this kind of territory, it's not a good idea. It will be used by Russian propaganda now that is the problem I have with it.
Master man. Who me? I have human flesh not circuit boards last time I checked lol. Not propagandist if that's what you're saying just concerned. Misunderstanding, no worries mate 👍
And this is why your country is being torn apart!
I live in Åland, an autonomous island that belongs to Finland. In 2012 Russia "gifted" our capitol Mariehamn a statue of Maria Alexandrovna whom the town is named after. I've suggested that the statue should be displaced from the park it's in to outside the Russian consulate in Mariehamn.
Someone painted the statue with the Ukranian flag's colors recently.
Sounds quite petty tbh
@@revertrevertz5438 Do it for the lulz.
Not "painted", somebody vandalized statue.
speak in own mother language is anyone very first basic right. because of this we separated from pakistan 50 years back. no one can stop others culture. mutual respect between different culture languages are very much needed. you cant hate all people of west because of destroying Libya .. this is madness
how exactly did the west destroyed libya enlighten us please with evidence proof of act and amount of ordonance used please enlighten us so that we know
@@lattehour are u even serious. Start reading at least smth
Ukrainians want to speak their native language Ukrainian---which was banned countless times by the Kremlin! Moldovans want to speak Moldovan, not RuZZian. Belarus'ians want to speak Belarus'ian but are forced to speak RuZZian!
@@WangAiHua what BS. They aren't part of USSR for 30 years. Who can make them speak Russian?
@@WangAiHua big languages domination is understandable specially with the help of ruling elites such as English -French -spanish -Hindi - Russian and many more. but you can't stop other people languages. many countries use 2 or more languages as their state languages . what's wrong? coexistence is only possible when we respect eachother with love.
Is that call ethnic cleansing?
No ethnic cleansing is the forced removal of an ethnic group. The victims of ethnic cleansing may be subjected to arbitrary detention, forced labor, and other forms of physical and psychological abuse. Taking down a few statues is not ethnic cleansing. But it was a nice try Ivan.
What about Bucha? Russians did far worse.
Yes
@@anarchistponcho8689 Bucha was staged by Ukraine.
@@aeye9772 any evidence for that claim
Using fear to make people speak a language they don't speak is sad
Yes, Putin should not have done it. He injected so much fear into the Russian speaking Ukrainians that they chose not to speak Russian again.
But putting some order in your administrative language usage seems kinda logical, even more so when your enemy in a war speaks the language you're using everyday and tells you that is the reason your country needs to stop existing and join Russia. Well, then we'll speak Ukrainian, so we don't have to join Russia anymore. Pretty clever when you think about it for a sec
An end to all russian fear mongering and fascism
@@nerevar4286 You are talking nonsense. For example, there are 4 official (also administrative) languages in Switzerland: German, Italian, French and Ladin. Guess, how many years has Switzerland never had wars? By chance, has France, Italy or Germany ever invaded Switzerland because there are territories where their language is spoken?
@@trumpforever6706typical propaganda. Ukraine was under russian occupation for more than 300 years.
Since the statue is historical, bury it like most ancient ruins. Or just put it in the basement of the museum, to be viewed like any other bygone relic of another era, next to Stalin and Lenin. 🗿
The same thing happened in Germany during Hitler's time ..
Very fortunate to live where I live, a very big island at the bottom of the world 🇺🇦🦘
Colonizers that's what your people are
@@grunggod9127 considering that my ancestors came here in chains I'd beg to differ on that matey
Australia's great, but don't kid yourself China hasn't got designs on your turf.
@@rufanuf1 China doesn't care about Australia, Australia is a tiny country with no turf.
@@thehappycamper162 LOL well I hope your right, but last I heard Australia the biggest island in the world and full of empty space where they can park some of those 1.4BN people to charge their batteries for them.
----- > I don't believe in the destruction of cultural history but some pieces may be better in a museum or art gallery.
Russia said that ukraine is cracking on the russian language. Doing this just proves russian point of view and will be able to justify the war. Its better not to force anyone to change language
Can it be called "Cultural Genocide"?!
No, but it can be called "decolonization"
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Its like Indians banning English in India.
@@chingghishan5707 Maybe not. I've go to Rameswaram (Tamil Nadu) when i said i can't speak Tamil. They said they also can't speak Hindi, so it's ok if we want to speak English. English still important in Bharat because not all peoples can spoke Hindi. Bharat had many languages (Hindi, Panjabi, Tamil, Bengali, Marathi, Kannada, Telugu, Urdu, etc)
Very humane response from Ukrainian people🇺🇦💕🇺🇦🇺🇦💕🇺🇦💕🇺🇦💕🇺🇦💕💕🇺🇦💕🇺🇦💕💕🇺🇦
Right move👍
This has been one of the problems which led up to the war banning Russian language to Russian and other ethnic languages like Hungarian
if they dont like the language they are free to leave when you are in usa you speak english in italy you speak italian
If thy don't like the Ukrainian language, they are free to LEAVEEEEEEE.........
@@lattehourthat doesn't really work in this situation since other groups like the russians have existed in what is now ukraine for generations so asking them to leave would be difficult.
@@lattehour yeah or they call the russian army.
@@rmsusanna8076 If you say the same about any population group in Europe or America you will most probably face charges. But if it's about Russians, it's ok, right?
and here is the heart of the problem. derussification = compelling Russian speakers and ethnic Russians to look to Russia to confirm their identity, rather than to the tolerant and accepting Ukraine pre 2014.
Had Ukraine practiced the inclusivity preached by the West, we would never have arrived at this point. There are reasons why Crimea and Donbass abandoned Ukraine, and it wasn't any shift in attitudes in Moscow, but in Kiev.
True.Due to this, Russia will have to take the whole black sea coast and its Russian population. Odessa was founded by Catherine after Russia took the coast from the Turks. Ukraine is a failed attempt at creating a mono-ethnic state yet the land is very diverse. Ukraine is forcing the culture and language of Ivano-Frankvisk and Lwow in predominantly Russian speaking and Russia leaning regions and this led to the civil war in 2014.
Ukraine should have done this the day after the USSR fell. Russia has abused Ukraine for hundreds of years. Long Live Ukraine!
interesting. Ukraine only exists for about a century. And was extually created by Soviets
@@engliterra355 the people in the territories that we regognize as Ukraine today have been subjected to abuses by the Russian Empire.
@@engliterra355Ukraine was independent before the Soviets.
God bless all the Ukrainian and Russian children and us all with Peace.
God is Gracious
Amen
Ukrainians will never forgive Russia after what Russia has done.
Ukraine doesn't need Russian as a second language. Most of the world has English as a second language.
Also, culture evolves. Always has and people trying to keep people from evolving are fighting a unwinnable fight.
Ukraine speaks Russian language bro 🤦♂
Wicked nationalism will not help you brother. Actually it will end up very bad for you.just follow history.
@@Blitzkers99 In school they will only learn Ukrainian from now on. This will take time(one generation).
Russia is to Ukraine as Nazi are to Jewish people now. Only Russians don't understand, just like the Nazi didn't understand in their time.
"Ukraine"?? What is that?
Ukrainians and Russians live and coexist, intermixed or intermarried peacefully for over 1000 year until recently xenophobic, wicked nationalism, and politicians with different motives, Western politicians, warmongering state Ukrainians and Russians are two distinct people.
We have the same concerns with confederate statues in the U.S.
No, we don't.
Come to Belgium for some serious language laws 😂
@elenarus6382 yes it should be harmonize but then why only banning russian languages? many ukranian speak russian -its their mother languages. why not all languages get equal treatment . respect and trust are missing
Nationalization can go in different ways
Statues of despots are not wanted--not of Stalin, Hitler, Catherine, or Putler!
Respect and learn from your history and you will get a better future destroy and erase all and you will have no future.
Only Stephan bandera it seems like lmao
GLORY TO UKRAINE! It's so beautiful to see Ukrainians going back to their roots and reclaiming their identity 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤👏👏👏👏🥂🥂🥂🥂 FINALLY!!!💪💪💪❤❤❤🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
All slavic people should be united in one state. Glory to the Soviet Union!
In your dreams
@@paulanerruhrpott6188 ok boomer
No such thing
Both languages should be official in Ukraine. In Finland we have a very small Swedish speaking population (about 5-6 %) and still Swedish is one of the two national languages. Countries shouldn't discriminate their minority languages!
Bravo! This is the example I once told Ukrainian political activists about. I know that it had not persuaded them though, because fanaticism prevails over logic.
Does Germany have a statue of Hitler anywhere....
She literally founded the city. So they are just denying their heritage with this regard.
History books/documents will remain. But glory of dictators - eliminated.
Whats the problem?
It was a city before she sent her own cannon fodder there. More appropriate to say she "revamped" it.
@@ZhovtoBlakytniy BS. was a small village
I remember this... 😢😢😢 i actually started feeling sorry for Russia from the first day i saw this video. I thought Ukraine was the victim, but they changed my mind fast.
expected they hate russia alot now, putler did this
Catherine the Great was born in Germany.
she was actually born in north-western Poland , that time Kingdom of Prussia but she was ethnic German.
This is what exactly brought up the conflict. It is true when the Russian says people who speak Russian in Ukraine are being bombed since 2018
This has good intent behind it. One concerning thing would be revisionism and pretending something never happened. Also, yes, menus, government documents etc should default to Ukrainian but also (and I almost assume they'd do this) have options for other languages which would include not just English, Spanish, German, Mandarin etc but also Russian.
People tend to not learn languages that well later in life. Not that they can't, but it's not something that happens often. My own mother in law doesn't speak English and she probably never will at her age, despite living in an English speaking country. In the US, English is definitely the standard language but in some areas, there is often a section that is translated into Spanish, especially in southern states. I can feel for the older Ukrainians that are against the invasion but speak only Russian. They'll probably speak it to the grave.
This is something that doesn't change overnight but takes a few generations to change.
It is not easy to remove all or parts of a culture from memory of a people. But as long as it is voluntary and bottom-up, it might work.
it won't. it just causes more division.
It is not volontarily done...It is violence against Russian people, Russian speaking people, culture and heritage.
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@@duncansmith7562 Division, i agree. But don't forget that cultures do disappear, and contrary to intuition, it's usually not by force, but it is replaced with a more pragmatic culture.
Nothing they do will change the fact that the city of Odessa was founded by a Russian monarch, Catherine the Great, and that Odessa will always be a Russian city.
Cathrine at birth was a German princess , maybe Odessa should be German ?
And Lisbon was founded by the Greeks, should Portugal surrender Lisbon to Greece?
What about S. Paulo and Rio de Janeiro and all the cities in Brazil?
New York was founded by the Dutch.... Sydney was probably founded by the UK....
If you want to play that card, then my friend, get ready for a lot of cities changing hands around the world... A lot...an awful lot!
Anyone doubting what Russia saying can confirm here
don't worry, you won't see symbols of dictators in Ukrainian space, soon Odessa will no longer belong to Ukraine 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣
having nice wet dreams ivan?
I see Putin has put Odesa back on the to do list ! Bravo.
Did you know that Russia never belonged to Russians😂😂😂😂
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@@popo3122 There is no race named as Russians,its a Mixed tribe people Unitedly known as Russian
Odessa the modern one was created by a russian empress Catherine the great what are they gonna do about that. I still don't understand what a language has to do with a war. You can't fight hate with hate.
Russia uses its language as a weapon, throughout history it has used the Russian language as a justification to invade other countries. Russia-Georgia conflict, Russia's justification to invade was that they were protecting Russian speaking peoples
ofcourse and replace it with Stepan Banderas
maybe bidens or Zelenskys
i think every icon of Russia stretches to Us itself all soviets are russian and nothing can change that ...ever
the very weapons Ukraines now using to fight Russia from soviet era missiles sent bu biden to Ukraine and tanks and the soviet tanks to Mig;s are Russian purely Russian
Odessa beautiful city 🇺🇦🇬🇧, Ukrainians kind people
Russian city
@@OeildeMoscou no, it's not, dont try to make any effort in saying it is because its not
NOBODY EVER spoke Ukranian language in Odessa, EVERYBODY speaks Russian there. It's a Russian city, always has been. Built by Italian architects. What is this Pakistani guy doing there first place?
He was darker than the average Urkainian, wasn't he? Maybe a Crimean Tatar.
@@mitchyoung93 He's Armenian. I can tell by his name.
I‘m learning Russian just for hobby but it does not mean I support Putin. I‘m fully supporting Ukraine. The reason why I‘m learning Russian, is, because Russian is the most spoken Slavic language and is widely spoken all over the post-SSSR countries, and I like Russian classical music and literature. However, I can understand that Ukrainians don’t want to speak Russian anymore so when I speak with them I usually use English. But an Ukrainian guy told me that I shouldn’t learn the language of terrorists and learn Ukrainian instead, it was just too much for me. I was not speaking Russian with him, I’m not living in Ukraine. Russian is the language of Putin, that‘s true, but it‘s not only spoken by Putin but also a lot of people even outside of Russia. Likewise, German was the language of Hitler, English was the language of Americans who persecuted Native Americans. If you only want to speak „innocent“ languages, you cannot speak any major languages…
Erasing Russian heritage is not the way. What a shame. I loved Odessa and my experience there. Everyone I encountered spoke Russian. I love this city. It does not mean they are not Ukrainian. So sad.
It's understandable.
I loved Odessa…
i love Odessa even more now
Екатерина ввела черту оседлости. В эти же даты ее символично и убрали.
Build statue of Bandera or Hitler.
Ukrainian should start changing their Russian names..
to what. they don't have their own. Oh wait, they started calling children Javelina!
Understandable. I wonder and worry, though, about the future that awaits Odesa Oblast in SW Ukraine, a region that, like the nations that closely border it (Moldova, Romania), is comprised of many, many fragmented cultural and linguistic groups scattered into villages, owing to the many centuries of conquest by this or that power. Basically, it is a mini-EU that would suffer greatly if it were to undergo strict Ukrainization, including a curious splinter group that speaks old Russian and is not part of Putin's cadre. It deserves to remain the charming and fascinating place it is.
1:26 - Which are those? Stepan Bandera?
Did I really just see a clip saying they force an order for food to be processed in Ukrainian only?
You can’t blame Russian civilians for what’s happening - that’s discrimination. Come on Ukraine you’re better than that
Ukraine is doing the right thing change those street names back as well
ISIS also destroyed history of libya and syria. This is a terrorist tactics.
❤❤❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 perfect
brave Ukranians fighting monuments
Bro you are armenian 😅 come to armenia 🇦🇲
an Armenian participating removing Russian herritage in Odessa. That's rich
@@engliterra355 ukrainian armenian acts like azerbaijanis removing armenian history of artsakh
Is this not cultural genocide?
Reverse cultural genocide to be clear
Wow, you're really showing Russia.
Showing them what ? Russia will be there in a few months anyway !
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@@Ridethebomb777 that's sarcasm.
@@mike42356 That's the truth. Putin put Odesa back on the "to do" list. After they've mopped up in Bakhmut no doubt.
Soon... you´ll put it back (statue, books and language)
Thank you SO much for reporting this🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼😊😊😊🇺🇦🇺🇦🙏🙏
It's shameful.
@@goxdie000 it's glorious
I wish they were not going this far, that was a different time and place. I hope they saved it for later generations in case the mood changes one day. It's unfortunately understandable they would want to curse on anything Russian when the leaders of Russia are constantly calling for their deaths now. It's much like Finland in the Tsar's day.
No it isn't. Nonstop Russia beams in content saying that Ukraine isn't a real country. Has been doing that since 1991, which is why that was the date chosen for banning music.
@@thysonsacclaim Can you give examples please? specifically from 1991 to say 2007 please?
@@thysonsacclaim and how is it a real country if it's ruled and financed from outside?
So, what you are saying is that the Russians will have no choice but to show the Ukraine speaking people, absolutely no mercy?
How can you ban someone language from been spoken in your country. This is unacceptable despite all Russia aggression. Seen made me think that this war will never end. We all know Russia is doing the wrong thing but to ban a language is unacceptable. They will see this as a reason to prolong this war
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This is the perfect response to a colonist occupier who has obviously lost all credibility with Ukraine that is if they ever had any in the first place
Decolonising the country is very important for the future of Ukraine and its people. Before lecturing Ukrainians, foreigners must remember that Ukraine had no problem with the Russian language after gaining independence from the USSR in 1991. The majority of Ukrainians elected Volodymyr Zelensky, who also speaks russian and did TV programmes in russian language. So why are they all changing that now? Because the russian federation abused that trust, placed russian assets in key power positions in Ukraine, used the fact that Ukrainians accepted russian speaking in their country as one of the reasons to invade it, and tortured, raped and murdered Ukrainian-speakers in Ukraine.
Ukraine has tried to be inclusive of russian language for 30 years, but they got invaded because of that. That experiment has clearly failed. Now, it is time to leave russian language and history in the museums. The future of Ukraine is Ukrainian, and what a wonderful language and culture it is too.
Slava Ukraini!
Even before 2022, people were getting fined for Bilingual Ukrainian-Russian signs.
Subtitles and translations should be word for word accurate, with no changes to the meaning or word used.
Word-for-word total accuracy in translations is hard. Fellini (allegedly) said "A different language is a different vision of life". Putin understands this, called Trump яркий (yarkiy), usually translated as "bright" but the context is visual, so "vivid", "glaring" etc. are also good. Trump took this accurate translation to mean "clever".
By the way, Russians have left Ukrainian as one of the three official languages in Crimea that one can do paperwork with etc. Russia seems not to have nationalist complexes akin to Ukraine's political culture.
Hahaha. He’s not Ukrainian. Russia will
Take Odessa. This guy should learn English.
Russia vs Europe and America
My curious mind wants to know, what is the difference between what Russia is doing in Mariupol and Ukraine in Odessa?
Aside from the war crimes, you mean?
@@jcortese3300 didn't you see what people in Mariupol are saying- that Ukranian army was shooting at them. U consider that a war crime? Sure
The difference is that Ukraine isn`t invading another country.
rusia ethnically cleansed the population of mariupol prior to war used to be 460k people living in that area now about 190k mostly rusians it`s an absolute total difference from odessa where ukraine had not forced the rusians to leave they are about 12% of the population
Russia is not erasing any history or language in Mariupol.
Understandable but sad none the less...
This film revealed the truth how peoples are treated being Russian or speak Russian
It's quite a concerning situation, if at all Russian speaking people are being persecuted 😎😎
In short:jewish city Odessa is now ukrainised
I dare you all to watch Ukraine stance in WW2. Before you watch this you have no right to say anything against Russia.
What about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Russia sided with Hitler for a slice of Poland.
@@anarchistponcho8689 Polish invasion of Czechoslovakia prior to that.
@@jirachi-wishmaker9242 And this justifies Russia siding with Hitler? In that case, why are you mad at Ukraine for asking help from NATO? Russia attacked Crimea, a part of Ukraine, before invading the rest of Ukraine, so......
You mean the fact that a handful of Ukrainian nationalist used the NAZIs as a weapon against Soviet colonizers?
@@anarchistponcho8689 what justifies "allies" to invade/colonize other parts of the world & commit crimes ?
What justifies Poland's invasions?
This is sad to watch. Odessa must be liberated of Nazi terror.
is English will surely improve, great attempt
This is the tactic that Russia\USSR have used for decades throughout the eastern block. For those who know their history, It has been used in Ukraine over and over again by the Russian empire, Stalin/USSR and now by Putin.
These people are legitimately taking back there history.
Stay strong Ukraine from all Aussies. Don’t give up on your right to be free. It’s what unites us all.
From Soviet literature and documents on the strategies of subversion & population control, the Soviets banned religion and made Russian the main language yes, but people use that to push the narrative that Russia has been the ones opressing the other nations, completely and utterly ignoring the fact that a German led Bolshevik Communist regime that destroyed the Russian country and system taking over with the Russians attempting to stop said take over, that failed, occured in history, very conveniantly left out, and then the execution and genocide of Russians who resisted the new Soviet/Bolshevik takeover.
These people are legitimately ignoring this part of history.
Finally someone who gets it.
I’ve “no place” for hearing mealy mouth,surrender merchant Macron,calling for Putin to be NOT humiliated etc.! Would DeGaulle have let him off the hook?
DeGaulle hated America and was friends with USSR. Sure you want to use him as example?
@@engliterra355 He didn’t like us either even though we gave him sanctuary during the war. I don’t know any other French heroes apart from Jeanne D’arc?
@@Grahamgusbull LOL, you guys got your b*tt kicked by a girl.
@@mitchyoung93 I certainly did Mitch!
I’m totally behind the Ukraine, but that statue looks a lot better in that square than anything anyone puts in its place. And vice versa, the square looks better with the statue. It’s a question of aesthetics, and history. Any iconoclastic movement, be it ISIS, Black Lives Matter, Aurangzeb, the Christians in Egypt is itself extremism. History should be kept out of this fight, and it is just used by Putin as an illegitimate pretext.
Open the box so I can have a propaganda at it.
This is one sided video.
No misery Jesus 💘 😂. Dear leaders worldwide please avoid that conflict and negotiate with Putin for peace and forgiveness. Tanks and artillery and 💰 money and power of soldiers is not the solution for peace and forgiveness. Jesus Christ is the best answer .😍
Odessa is a Russian city.
What on earth does it have to do with Ukraine ?
it was literally built by the Russians.
So the USA belongs to UK?
Back then, and in many respects sill now, Russia was an empire consisting of many different peoples. What youre saying is basically, Cologne, Germany belongs to Italy because it was created by the Roman empire. Or Nimes, France, again belongs to Italy because it was created by the Roman Empire. Another example is Bath, England. Created by the Roman Empire, does this city belong to Italy?
Another example is Ljubljana, Slovenia, created by the Holy Roman Empire, does that city belong to Germany? What about Brno, Czech Republic?
it was built by the forefathers of the same people who live there now and it belongs to the same people who live there now.
They don't want to be Russians as they were forced to be long time ago
Istanbul is a greek city. Go and tell this to the Turks.
Ukrainians are the largest ethnic group here.
While they're at it, perhaps they should follow the American example in WWII vis a vis the Japanese?
I think I would downgrade the Russian language too if they were invading and murdering everyone in my country. I am told that most people in Ukraine can speak both languages so it is not a big deal.
Who are "they"? Russian-speaking Ukrainians?
Good job ukraine Russia has no place in Ukraine even when it was the Soviet Union it still wasn’t Russian land
It's mean you agree if Melayu peoples doesn't have any place in Indonesia?
Any excuse for Russia to get the USSR back
Odessa was always a Russian city.