White Sapote Experiment - Tasting & Growing From Seed - Several Methods (Casimiroa edulis)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Today I'll be tasting and growing White Sapote or Casimiroa and doing an experiment of growing them from seed in several methods to see what works the best. I'll be planting these seeds in soil as well as in paper towels but I'll also be cutting the outer layer off the seeds to see what affect that has on their growth.
Join me as I grow and taste this amazing, tropical yet fairly hardy fruit which grows on a massive prolific tree. I'll also show you a mature white sapote tree in the video which is absolutely covered in fruit!
White Sapote (Casimiroa edulis) also known as Mexican Apple is a distant relative of the citrus family, Rutaceae, but this subtropical fruit is very different. It's a rare and unusual fruit and is native to eastern Mexico and Central America south to Costa Rica.
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Lots of plants have inhibitory hormones in the seed husk that needs time buried in the soil to break down and break dormancy and let the seed germinate, its most likely natures way of ensuring that the seed is at least partially buried in the soil before germination, that's why the ones you took the husk off grew quicker. There is a slight risk that removing the husk can make the seed more vulnerable to bacterial and fungal attack as the husk also has anti-biotic properties as well, but as they grow quicker and become less vulnerable as they get larger the benefits outweigh the risk in a clean garden environment where everything has been weighted in the seeds direction.
True, nature knows best. I don't bother removing the husk now, but was interesting to see the difference anyway :)
I haven't heard New Zealand, I thought it must be same as Australian, I was wrong. It sounds like Australian but without all flaws.
@@seanleith5312 👌 perfect, that's exactly correct 😅
Tropical fruit trees don’t have that break dormancy as far as I can tell I remove mango seed coat Mamay sapote etc you get stronger seedlings
I'd remove the husk, but leave it in the pot with the seed, or bury it on the side of the sprout so the sprout can get those hormones, antibiotic, antibacterial properties as you say.
you’ve got to be my new favorite channel, its just so cool for you to plant all of these fruits and see them grow.
Dad bought me 3 seeds of an unknown fruit, let them on the table and in spring I pealed them and planted them 1 of them succeeded it has been 6 months now and now I knew it's a w.sapote tree thank you.
underrated yumminess been growing for over 20 years
I really love your passion for growing plants
I love the experimentation you do with growing fruit trees from seeds, almost like a Bill Nye of fruit tree seeds type character😊
My parents neighbours have a huge tree! I remember them being slightly yellow when they were ready though. We use to use them to thicken up our milkshakes!
Sustainable Holly nice one. I think the colour when ripe can depend on the cultivar :)
We have a white sapote tree that is 15 years old and we brought because a neighbor had very high blood pressure even though she was on medication. A friend from the interior of Mexico told us the fruit and the leaves of the tree can easily made into a tea , take it opposite time of your high pressure medication. My neighbor would take leaves off our sapote tree and wash dry and save for making tea.
I'm so excited I just bought one from my grocery store in Oregon. I'm going to try to grow it from seed.
how ist growing?
@@marcolevel5831 it grew pretty well. I would bring the plant in during the winter when it got below 32. I unfortunately left it outside when I moved and someone walked away with the pot.
@@tylerjones1574 what a plottwist.
Another great vid. I'm glad you did this on Casimiroa as I have 4 seed to plant tomorrow. My fav variety is Wiki Woo, but Sue Belle is supposed to be very good too.
Kia ora bro, I have four varieties I planted earlier in the year. I can't wait to get fruit from them in a few years. I also have a couple of Cherimoyas.
I've also found that deshelling does allow for quicker germination. But then you had yours on a heating pad. That'd surely speed up the process. Must get a few.
Love your work. Kia kaha🤙
Kia ora bro, cheers for that. That’s awesome that you have 4 varieties going. Will be interesting to see what one you like best when they do fruit
Wonderful video, it really makes me want to find some white sapote (too cold to grow them here). Can you tell us a little more about the true to seed phenomenon that you described?
Thanks! :) Basically you end up getting genetic diversity with seedling plants, therefore there’s no guarantee that the fruit will be good quality. Over the years people have grown them from seed to fruiting stage and selected the most flavourful varieties and ones with good qualities and then named that variety and grafted the wood from those trees onto seedlings to get identical fruit to that parent plant. :) hope that makes sense
Here in Thailand, white sapote is one of rare fruit. I imported 4seeds from Japan, and last year I got 2 fruits for the first time. Now the trees bloom and began to grow very young fruit. I would like to seed again after I got fruits.
Our neighour has one growing by the fence and we wait for to go yellow when it ripens (if the birds havent attacked them first). It's deliciously smooth and buttery texture that ready to eat in late spring.
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I am super curious to what happen to all the plants u have grown over the years!
I’d love an update from the persimmons, earth apple, kiwi, almond tree, and pomegranate tree u have grown!
Seems so cool to me! U may Share!
cool video, we've had those fruit in the backyard and been eating them this whole time just never new what it was called
What the first comment said, but in less rude terms. Don’t put stuff in your mouth if you don’t know what it is. And honestly, there are so many apps out there you should never be in a situation where you would need to do that.
My 6 years old white sapote tree grew 12 fts or longer and it produces a lot of fruits for me. I started with seed and within 3 years fruited
Sir, can I get white sapota seeds from you to try in my country (Algeria) and thank you
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Great informative video! Well done!
Have you tried the Max Gold While Sapote. I think that one tastes the best of all of them.
Would you be willing to share where you found the huge established tree at the start? I'm heading south of Auckland this week and love to try and get some fruits from it. Cheers
Thanks for sharing your expérience.
Bravo.
Must we Graft the plant.
Thanks for responding.
Where did you purchase your fruits that you planted? I am based in Auckland
Hey, in my childhood I enjoyed white zapote a lot. However, currently where I live they don't grow. :-(. Something that came up to my head is to try making wine with this fruit and see how it tastes. I'm confident it should taste good. Making home wine is very simple. Pretty much the fruit in water with sugar and yeast and leave it there for 2 weeks.
Sounds like a cool idea!... if you like wine that is. Me, unfortunately I don’t haha
Interesting fruit. I’ve never seen or heard of it.
Amazing! Im in NZ and so want to give this a go! I've heard of sapote varieties like chocolate sapote I wonder if you can grow that here too. Thank you ❤
They're definitely cool fruits! I've got a video about growing chocolate pudding fruit (black sapote) from seeds as well so feel free to check that out. I've got some small plants and know of people who grow them successfully in Northland too :).
Note that white sapote is a distant relation of citrus and black sapote is in the persimmon family, so although they share the name ''sapote'' they're actually not related
@@TheKiwiGrower wow thanks so much! I am in Dunedin so things will be more challenging for me down here but I am determined to find a way to grow some amazing fruit!
@@AzulaChild Nice one. If you haven't already, you should join the facebook group called NZ rare fruit growers. There's people from all over NZ, including Dunedin growing some cool stuff :).
You could also look into growing Asimina triloba (american pawpaw) down there possibly as they can handle the cold really well. I have a video on them too :)
thanks man for sharing this ...
Hey brother, how many years does it take a sapote grown from seed to bare fruit, im in northland nz, and have a few growing was curious how long it will be before they fruit, thanks brother
Will these grow in containers and fruit? What size container and with what soil mixture do you recommend? Thanks!
Im in New Zealand too and just finished trimming one of these guys do you know if they grow from cuttings?
love these. there's a few trees growing on my property here in Florida.
Nice one! Can't wait until my one bears its first fruits :)
Kia ora, we're from Auckland, Waitakere just wondering what area of NZ you are in?
Kia ora! I’m just south of the Auckland area :)
Wow, I will definitely keep a look out for these plants / fruit in my area (South Australia) but have never ever seen them. You mentioned that you will get more fruit true to type and earlier if you graft onto them. I am curious how grafting brings on fruit sooner? They say this for avocados, etc. but what makes them fruit earlier? Maybe you can do a video on that some time? But I would settle for a comment LOL. Thanks again!
Basically by grafting a mature branch on, the graft that grows will already have the traits of a mature tree to them produce fruits. Otherwise the tree has to reach a certain age before it fruits. I explain it in this video here if that helps :) Cheers th-cam.com/video/lOkFUHxO8ug/w-d-xo.html
@@TheKiwiGrower makes sense, thanks for the reply... I'll check out the link you sent.
This was cool, thank you.
Hello! Great video. Your casimiroa is doing really well. I live in NZ too and I would like to grow casimiroa too. Whereabouts is your tree growing?
Hi there. I love just south of the Auckland area. My tree does fine in the frosts we get. We got around 10 frosts this winter just gone. They need some protection when young though.
@@TheKiwiGrower thanks for replying! I live in Porirua, so it might be pushing the range a bit. We only get maximum ten frosts, but the general temperature is a lot cooler than Auckland!
Any chance that you could do a demo of taking cuttings from a white sapote?
Great job. Where about in NZ r u ? Do you think it will survive in Christchurch ?
I’m just south of the Auckland Area. I’m not too familiar with the climate there. But if you haven’t already, join the NZ rare fruit grower fb page. I’m sure people there will be growing it in chch that will know more. :)
これって柑橘類なの？それとも洋梨的なものなの？sapoteがどういうものなのか詳しく知らないけど、このおじさん本当凄い。発芽の、いや、種付けの天才だね。
will the fruit from a a tree grown from seeds taste different from the mother tree?
How are these seedlings doing now, several years later?
My niece who lives in Alta Dena California, has many of these trees in her backyard. They were all there when she bought the house. I never heard of this fruit before, I tasted it and they were delicious 😋. I live in Southern Oregon now.Will they grow here?
Sounds like a cool backyard! How cold does it get where you live ?
@@TheKiwiGrower It gets to about 30 below in the winter ,and in the summer about 90 .
@@millienorton5009 is that -30F? If so I would say that’s probably too cold. You could got for something like Asimina triloba instead (American pawpaw)
What ever happened to the coconut palm you grew 8 years ago?
Hello, what did you mean when you said you will graft onto them to get fruit better and sooner?
Hi there, so once they are around pencil thick or so I will get a small branch from a mature tree that is a proven fruiter, with nice fruit and graft that small branch onto the seedling. This means that the plant will still have the strong roots of a seedling tree but because you’ve attached a branch from a good tree, that will grow into that exact variety. If you don’t do this and just grow your seedling into a large tree it can take 7-8 years to fruit and there’s no guarantee that the fruit will be really nice. Hope that makes sense :)
Kia ora bro , can I tip my seedlings grow one half orginal seedling and one half proven fruiter graft so there's a chance for new varieties?
@@jakewyatt3008 Yes you can
wow you slept for 2 and a half weeks. well done man.
😂 i wish!
Thanks for sharing
Hi, I'm intereses..where are the lowest temperatures in your area. Near to Gisborne? because I live in Spain,my zone in winter downs to -4 or -5 C every winter...and with a cold snap..to -7 or -8...do your think covering and mature could stand these temperatures? You'll tell me. 🙂
If you can grow a lemon tree, you can grow this. They like the same climate, fertiliser and soil conditions to citrus.
I'm slightly obsessed with sapote. Would like to see when you graft them. I just planted some IN their husk 3 wks ago, but am thinking to take the husk off. Would that be ok to do?
Thanks, will likely graft them sometime from the Spring as they are getting to size now.
If you wanted you could carefully dig one up to remove husk, however they will usually develop the root system first for sometime before you see any life emerge from soil, so could be a risk of damaging the seed or roots if you do this. 3 weeks isn't too long and they generally sprout readily without the husk, so as long as you have it somewhere warm then they should come up soon :). I would leave it personally but its up to you :)
@@TheKiwiGrower Ok, I think I best leave the husk, and thank you for replying! The sapote is incredible fruit but so delicate and hard to mass market because of that!
really want to try this fruit.. where do you find them?
They’re pretty hard to come by, in NZ your best bet is to know someone that has a tree or join a rare fruit growers page and sometimes people sell or give away the fruits on those Facebook pages. Hope that helps :)
Sub Tropical Nursery.
How long does it get fruit grow from the seed?
Sir, can I get white sapota seeds from you to try in my country (Algeria) and thank you
how long does it take to fruit?
How do they go in frosty areas
Do you think this would graft to citrus
Hi, this was one of my favorite fruit during my childhood in Dominican Rep. Have determined the sugar content and ph value of the fruit?
That's cool! Is it common over there? No not sure of the sugar content on these ones
,sir where to buy seeds blk sapote or wht sapote thanks from philippines
you need to check around the large tree they self seed pretty easily.
We are in the Waikato, our local Mitre10 had these in the specials zone of the plant/nursery area, usually where you find plants that almost dead or given up for dead, these must have just not sold, they were fine, I now have three, I'm not sure how much they were before price reduction, I think $49 maybe, I got them for $30 each. They are sitting waiting for me to plant them as I am unsure how they would do in our windy spot... but, considering how well they have stood up to my abuse and sitting in PB bags for so long I'm guessing they would survive anything 😬
Nice one, it's very windy here and my one is going really well. I found an old neglected one too, it didn't even have a label and was only $6 cause I think noone knew what it was. It's thriving now though. I put some windbreak around mine to give it a little protection which seems to have worked well. Good luck with yours :)
@@TheKiwiGrower Awesome , thanks!
where is that tree i need to go there
Do you sell any trees?
Cool! I only knew of the black
Do you grow the black Sapote?
TheKiwiGrower we did for a while then gave it to a friend when we moved. I’m gonna get some more now that we have some land 🤞
These grow like weeds every spring I mow loads of seedlings off under my Sapote tree.
This was so awesome, thank you! I really want to try to grow this, from seed, then graph it to my american persiommon bonsai. Is there any way you or someone could send me a few seeds? It would mean so much. Just think about it and get back to me please! Thanks!!
Is that possible? To graft a white sapote to a persimmon?
I don't onow a ton about grafting but you probably are better off trying a black sapote, since it is a persimmon. White and black sapote only have name in common.
Have you to grow a star apple?
Or jackfruit?
No, neither of these ones. Have you tried star apples before?
TheKiwiGrower I haven’t
I have jackfruit trees
Have you ever tasted jackfruit
Tell us what climate zone you live?
They’re actually the best when they’re squishy
Hey I am your subscriber from India May I get some seeds for growing here in India please if its possible, thank you.
Hey there, I'm sorry I don't have any of these seeds anymore but i hope you can find some over there :)
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How are they doing now?
Pretty good. They’re to grafting size now but I’ll probably wait until spring to do it :)
@@TheKiwiGrower I suggest that you keep at least one or two and keep us updated when they fruit just for fun and for the record.
Cool, yea definitely will :)
i really hate it when people say this type of tree doesn't grow true to type. the fact is all trees that supposedly do not grow true to type may actually grow true to type or may not. even if they don't grow true to type the difference may be so minor that you would not notice the difference at all. for the tree to grow so different from its birth parent it has to be pollinated by a totally different strain of the same tree, this doesn't occur if the tree is self fertile and pollinated itself. in self pollinated tree the genetic differences are usually minor.
Sapote means soft fruit
Grey sapote when
can i buy some seeds please.
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We eat it with the skin.
Thanks interesting, might have to try that next time
Bro start grafting bro you can get yield faster
Can you send me some seeds!
Wait, what!? He felt sleepy and went to lay down and slept for 2.5 weeks? 😳
😬
Haha if only
just planted mines ..used your video as a tutorial...seeds wasn't as fresh as yours unfortunately
I've germinated 14 seeds🤣🤣🤣
It is spelled zapote!
Enjoyable, except for the constant and excessive use of 'SUPER' Super everything!!!!!! Enough already!