ROCK ISLAND ARMORY 1911 OFFICER'S MODEL 45ACP - SH007ER Reviews
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On today's installment of SH007ER: The Series, Ed Thorell evaluates the Rock Island Armory 1911 Officer's model 45ACP (also know as GI Standard CS - 45ACP) pistol and does a live fire demonstration.
Ed Thorell is an NRA Certified firearms instructor in Southern CA and the owner of Thorell Firearms Education and Training, which is a personal firearms training business that educates individuals in proper techniques of handling and using firearms safely, in addition to personal firearms training.
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"why do I like a 45? Because nobody's made a 46."
That alone got you a like lol.
I bought one of these with the wood grips from a guy who only put 20 rounds through it for only $300 flat. He paid all fees. I made out really well on this deal.
I was extremely lucky to get one of these NIB off Gunbroker for $219 shipped. Looks like you and I both made out like bandits!
I got one of these 10 years ago and love it. I put on a set of HOGUE wraparound grips that really enhance it's grip feel. I added some Wilson Combat mags and it chews through ammo nonstop. Great video, greetings from Wyoming.
Just picked this lil dude up and I love it! I rotate between this and my classic 1911A1 Government model as my EDC guns and they're my favorite guns I own.
I never knew that colt built the rock island factory! So cool
Greetings from Kentucky.....the RIA Officers m1911 is an all time favorite whether its at the range our as a part of my edc. Spot on video...good work.
was surprised how tight a group mine shot at 25yrds.it clover leafed.more than great for a 3 1/2 inch barrel.
I have this pistol, it’s a damn nail driver. I can hit golf balls with it at 60 feet. That’s huge for me because I can’t shoot 4 shat! Love this pistol, and the price point helps increase the love
Nice hand gun. Thank You!! I will look into that .45 Rock.
I have one with standard sights, Works great!
Me too
Great job brother! Thank You! Keep up the great work
I have the all-steel Colt version of this pistol. It's reliable and feeds hollowpoints fine.
Compared side by side with my S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm:
Cost of the two was the same.
Including the beavertail the two guns are the same length (S&W barrel is 4").
The two guns are the same height with the magazines inserted.
The slide on the Colt is slimmer, but the grip thickness is the same.
The fully loaded weight difference is insignificant, about the same.
The sight radius is 1-1/8" longer on the S&W.
The Colt carries 7 rounds of .45 ACP and the S&W carries 16 rounds of 9mm.
Trigger pull weight is a tad heavier on the Colt, but trigger action of the Colt is vastly superior.
The S&W is far more comfortable to shoot with quicker follow-up shots.
I carry both.
I use Wilson 8-round mags in the Colt for 9-round capacity. With 9 in the gun and an 8-round spare mag that gives me 17 rounds of .45 ACP total.
When I carry the S&W I have 16 in the gun and a 17-round spare mag for 33 rounds of 9mm total.
When I carry the Colt I often wonder why I'm doing it... especially when the beavertail pokes into me... but I still do it. It's a 1911 thing. If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.
I bought one two years ago. I have run about 350 rounds through it. In addition to the factory mag, i have 2 ed browns and a wilson combat màg. I have used 230 gr rounds, 200 and 185. I have yet to clear a full mag without multiple failures. It fails to feed, slide locks open, slide does not lock open when empty. Feeds two at a time, crushes brass with the efficiency of a garbage disposal. I hàve a 500.00 paper weight. Thank you armscor!
Sounds like you need to send it back or get it worked and tuned by someone qualified.The vast majority of folks have good results with the RIA,
Use Mec Gar mags
Stock act mags dive 45 acp fmj 1/2 the time. Full mag dump with Wilson Combat 7 rnd 470X steel mags no problems. ? Just ordered 2 WC more; not using ACT/Italy mags ever again
For JMB's sake (and yours) get the damn thing fixed!
They are simple to any real gunsmith.
If your car malfunctions don't you take it to a mechanic?
I only buy Wilson Combat magazines.
Very good review...and good training fundamentals (like letting the slide slingshot forward, no assist...big believer in that). tnx!!
I just bought new one rock island 1911 45ACP A1CS I have problem shot jam a lot with ammo Winchester 230Grain ,can you guys have same problem or let me know with ammo good for this gun
I love my standard 3.5 in 45. Trigger seems smoother to reset and wall a fraction further. Safety more robust. Shoots better than my beautiful SA 5in ss 9mm
Outstanding
enjoyed this video, I have the Rock Island compact model and love it. Would love to see a video on that model. I also own the Baby Rock in 380 and love it.
I like a 45 because some people aren't worth shooting twice.
Same genre I was always asked if my dog bites, I answered only one time then he's done!
If you get the cs ultra tactical its a 3.5 inch ramped barrel, ambi thumb safety, fiber optic frt, and a rail. Love mine l, retail 750.00.
Very cool
I bought a RIA Officer because I love 1911's and wanted one to carry. Mine didn't always go all the way in to battery, so I bought a new recoil spring from Wilson Combat. It seems better, but still seems to hang up just a little compared to my Ed brown, Colt and Les Baer 1911's. It seems to be reliable for me, but my buddy was trying to shoot it and had nothing but malfunctions. He's a big guy and I think maybe his hand was conflicting with the slide. I really don't feel comfortable carrying it yet. Just don't trust it.
Then by all means do not carry it ..dump it if you feel like you say..anything at all that can give you a millisecond of hesitation is a bad thing..
Is the officers model the 4.25 or 3.5 barrel?
Kool video, thanks
How’d you chamge the sight on that?
The 1911 45 ACP vs Springfield XD 45 ACP which one would you prefer to carry and why? Ed, what is your every day carry handgun? What caliber do you prefer....9MM vs 45 ACP?
You NEVER forget you are carrying a1911 whether its a full size or compact which is why polymer guns are so popular. I think a 9mm is sufficient as a defense caliber with the right ammo and the ability to place the shots where you want them. There is no magic or perfect caliber, every choice requires a certain level of compromise
Best poly .45’s, Springfield XDS mod2 and Glock 36 IMHO and experience
1-2 well placed practiced 45acp rounds is far more effective than 6-9 9mm rounds.
Habitual practiced correct pistol manipulation and recoil management ... doesn't matter which or how many rnds?
❤ the only one.
Detonics combat master was the first "officer" size 1911
Prior to addressing this, I contacted RIA to clarify. I have read other accounts that have reported a 1975 start up date. RIA has given a couple of different answers and they, themselves, seem unsure since 2 of 3 e-mail gave different accounts and one of those to an executive level VP went completely unanswered. It took a few phone calls before they landed on either 1991 or 2001. Detonics came out in 1976.
@@edwinthorell1573 thanks for the clarification great video
I did not want to give you bad info with out attempting to get get to the source, first. You raised a great issue that needed accurate answer. I remember shooting a full-size Detonics back in the late 1970s and buying one of their spring kits for my 1911. Thanks for your patience.
is the recoil of 45acp as bad as 357 magnum?
Not at all. Similar to a standard length 1911
No, not even close.
Does it come with a firing pin safety?
A what?
@@edwinthorell1573 drop safety for the firing pin
@@DMAC55 The half-cock position of the hammer might apply. Otherwise its an inertial firing pin.
Rock Island 1911s have the 70 series trigger system.
Like they all should.
How does it function with JHP ammo.?
Just fine
Muzzle safety? What is that? Please stop the misinformation. The guide rod is needed on a bushingless barrel, in this case, a bull barrel because of the reverse plug that is needed to secure the recoil spring. The full length guide rod guiding the recoil spring is just secondary on this pistol.
Ejection pattern is all over the place
Which model of Trijicon sights did you have installed? Are they specifically designed for the 1911 or another model?
These are the standard Trijicons for the 1911 and they make other models. One model is a no-snag ramp at the rear, others have colored inserts to make them more visible in the daytime. These are just the plain 3-dot in white and the rear site is squared off, front face and back so that I can rack it one-handed off the edge of my belt or the heel of my boot. Have a gunsmith measure the depth of the dovetail in the slide to ensure proper size and fit before ordering and have a gunsmith use a sight press to install correctly
@@edwinthorell1573 Mine came with Novak style blacked out sights and I replaced my plain front blade with tru dot tritiums. Those rear sights in the video look pretty snaggy for CCW. But fun for range.
Chip McCormick magazines always fail on my colt officers!
Same reason I carry a .45 there isn’t a 46 😂
But they got a 50
460 Rowland. Ever heard of it !?
I like a nice .44 spec or mag. No really I have this RIA pistol.
I can't quire hear what or who makes that mag you shoot with at the end.
I started out using Chip McCormick mags that work great in my full-size. However, these mags developed issues where the rounds started to nose-dive in the mags resulting in failures. Since then I have returned them and been using Wilson Combat mags with an anti-tilt follower, so the rounds cannot nose dive. The Wilsons' have about 300 rounds them them and are amazing. Great question!
Is this the California 51429 model?
It started out as a 51416, a GI Standard Series (CS) Officers Model
Edwin Thorell Thank you
If that’s a officers model it should be a 3.5 inch not 3 inch.
I want one
I got one
where did you get the idea that colt set up rock island's factory with colt made machinery and colt trained mechanics? do you have it confused with the modelo colt sistema 27? i'd like to see where you got this info.
I got it from another source long ago and its been discussed in earlier previous comments
@@edwinthorell1573 i don't know where this speculation originated, but there is no substance to it. armscor does, however, make a very good example of the 1911. i have had a ria gi for 20 years or so and it has been a very reliable pistol.
Actually that is so true we are manufacturing guns by armrscor in the time of marcos. And yes they are trained by colt but things got little bit bad then i remember they told me that they sold the company after marcos. But some of the employees are still making ones here in the Philippines but it is not recognize by law highly trained they can even make a gun in their own 🏠...
Why do I find 1911’s so compelling. Just damn sexy I guess.
3.5” barrel
My favorite line... 45 coz they dont make 46👍
Classic response to why I carry a 45... no one has a 46... lol
Tell them 115 + 115 = 230 and see if they get it.
The Rock Island Armory that makes this gun and the General Officer's Rock Island are two different Rock Island's . One's Rock Island Arsenal, the other is a brand name for Armscor, a filipino gun company
Just bought commander style haven’t shot her yet but ammo is scarce
You cant go wrong with a .45
Why do I like a 45? Because nobody has made a 46. = Automatic like.
But there ARE .46 caliber pistols, and the .46 rimfire predates the .45acp by over 100 years.
Armscor does not nor has ever used colt machinery
I sent multiple e-mails asking about this with no clear answer. Even though I sent messages to RIA executives, that went unanswered, no clear answer was ever given. They kept redirecting me to their webpage and company history, which does not mention it. I have heard for years from many in the industry, that it was a Colt factory and this made sense, since during the war, so many different companies had military contracts to supply 1911s like Remington, Ithaca and even Singer. It was an easy jump to conclude that in 1946, the machinery came from Colt or one of the other contractors. RIA is somewhere between ignorance and indifference to the question. They either don't know or don't care. If they update or clarify, I'll let you know. If you have more info, please share.
Any update on this???
3 brass to the face ouch
Mine broke after 150 rounds in 9 days. Sent it back to RIA for repair or replace.
Actually they have. 460 Rowland...
Rowland is still .45....lol
Why i like the .45 coz no one make a .46 hahahaha nice
Great gun but not true about using old Colt machines !
See earlier comments
Origin of Armscor dates back to 1905 in the Philippines when the country was colonized by The US after they kicked out the Spaniards who colonized the Philippines for more than 300 years.
That grip safety needs to trip as soon as it is depressed,
Ejection sucks
I recommend changing out al, the springs for starters. Also, one issue inherent to compact pistols with short slides is that you have to lock out your wrists. Limp-wristing does not allow the slide to move to the full rearward position because of movement in the wrist allowing energy to be deferred from the wrist and shortening the travel of the slide.
@@edwinthorell1573 -- On the short-slide guns the slide cycles quick and has less dwell time at the rear... Therefore if the magazine spring isn't ON POINT it can't push the big 'Jesus rocks' up quickly enough and the last round in the mag will nose-dive on ya. Outside that, I have never had any failures with my 3.5" 1911. Some new Wilson Combat 8-round mags and it's totally reliable. Most reliability issues with 1911 pistols can be attributed to the magazines used.
@@HalfCrazy520 I run Wilson's and they work great
A Colt made in Philippines? No thanks