Shuttle Challenger Explosion [New Copy Found; Better Quality]
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- In July 2017 What You Haven't Seen launched by publishing the complete surveillance camera footage from the crash of Asiana 214 at San Francisco International Airport. In the time since, I am proud to have published hundreds of other significant exclusives, but despite all that, I never thought that I would find this.
CNN has a copy of their Challenger launch broadcast footage. It's available on CNN's own TH-cam channel, and it understandably has millions of views. CNN's upload is a 360p video whose content is similar to what you see here - with three major differences: (1) this version is of substantially higher quality, (2) this version doesn't have any CNN branding, and (3) this version continues NASA's feed longer than CNN showed on air.
This is a direct copy of NASA's broadcast feed. It was saved by NASA, and at some point a copy was transferred to the United States Geological Survey on a VHS tape. This video is a digitization of that tape; as far as I know, this is the first time it is being shown publicly. - บันเทิง
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it’s sad that the teacher who died on this, her son watched it as it exploded and he sent his favorite teddy bear with her for good luck, poor kid:(
😭 😢 he wouldn’t be the same again :(
It was a little frog toy I saw 🥺
WHY DID I READ THIS ;(
Is he still around today
@@garyhisgun4996 i honestly don't know
The excitement in their faces not knowing that is their final moments..
That’s what I was thinking. Such a depressing video
@@nickkoelle9674 yeah same
Kinda creepy really
They probably died instantly by the first explosion they didn't even heard the explosion before even knew what happened everything went dark just like that
@@user-hb4df7ox3k i think they were still alive
My 8th grade teacher wheeled the huge television into the classroom for us to watch the coverage. Those who lived back then remember exactly where they were that day.
yep... Home sick from school. Our class watched it but sadly I was a 6th grader home alone... I was so shocked and confused. I don't remember much after just being so sad... Calling my mom at work and crying. She came right home. That is all I remember from that horrifying day.
My teacher did the same thing at my elementary school in Huntsville Alabama. If I’m not mistaken my teacher was related to one of the astronauts, my teacher name was Mrs. Mcaullife. It was sad the whole class cried.
@@pettykittyfamI also was home from school sick or faking sick but I was on the couch at the time watching it at 12 years old.
Yes. Home "sick" from school at 16 years old, watching on TV.
My parents were on a business trip to China and I was staying at my aunts house in Queens. We watched from my cousins room as the Challenger exploded that day. 😢
I was in 5th grade at the time. My school was right next to our townhouse complex. Our class was doing our P.E. exercises of jumping jacks when my dad ran to the fence line and yelled out for me hysterically to tell me the space shuttle exploded. I'll never forget that.
I was in my 20s
wow...i wasn't even alive till 2008
@@winxgirl08come to Islam sister
I was in the 4th grade. I remember going outside and thinking I could see the explosion for some miraculous reason, even though I live in Oregon. I had an active imagination.
@@TitanassaurusCum 2 Scientology, my brother.
There was a teacher on board that shuttle. That teacher volunteered to go on that shuttle to teach kids about space in space. She was truly an amazing person 😞
She didn’t volunteer. She literally won a national contest for it making it more sad
@@davidandrew4099 imagine how the person that played amongus professionally but didn't win, and couldn't go up, and survived to fard feels 🥵🍑💨🌪️🌀😳
@@shrekleeapplesauce6239 I'm guessing he/she feels ALIVE.
@@jontraz5993 Jonas Albin
@@jontraz5993 But probably still suffered a bit of survivor's guilt. Ya never know.
My teacher was a finalist in the "Teacher in Space" project and he had to excuse his self from the class after being so shaken up by what had just happened
that couldve been him... holy
same here, one of my elementary school teachers was meant to go, but she failed the g force tests
OMG. I bet his stomach dropped and his heart sank. That is so awful.
I was in third grade watching it in class. still gets me
Finalist? He must’ve been a heck of a man.
I was living in Tarpon Springs, FL. at the time. I had planned on waking up and watching the launch. Although it was on the other side of the state it was visible. I overslept but vividly remember having a dream that it crashed while landing. I woke up pissed that I overslept then turned on the TV for the replays I knew they would be showing. I will never forget watching the news that it blew up. Here I am all these years later and it seems like it happened yesterday.
I remember watching this in realtime at home as we had a snow day that day. I had just turned 10 a month and three weeks prior. As a child, this was so exciting for me. I too remember this day like it was yesterday. It’s funny how time works; for those with clear memories decades don’t seem very long ago. In the grand scheme of things, “decades ago” really isn’t that long.
This is horrific. Watched it live as a 14 year old when it happened. RIP those fearless astronauts.
Ma voi mettereste la mano sul 🔥, che quel giorno sono morti degli astrononauti? Io no!!
@@rossanoeramo1849 Prego per loro
@@genghiskhanii6646 preghi a vuoto!!! Non è morto nessuno..
@@rossanoeramo1849How would anybody survive that?
I was 14 as well. I was sick that day and stayed home and watched it on tv. Just horrific.
I will never not be angry over the fact that NASA essentially sent this crew to their fate *knowing* they’d been warned not to launch that morning due to the weather and the O-rings.
What are o rings
Wait they knew? Could you tell me more about that? I never knew about that part
That's fucked up
@@kelseyallman8424 basically an o ring forms the seal between the rockets boosters and this has to be at a certain heat for it to acc seal the separate sections and the rocket engineers knew the o ring was too cold and it wouldn’t work they attempted to postpone it to fix the problem and wait for better weather as u need ideal conditions to launch a rocket of that magnitude but the higher ups dismissed it as they were trying to impress president Reagan at the time probably for a budget increase or something financially so although the acc experts knew something would go wrong they were overshadowed and the rocket launched anyways and the rest we all know
what you mean that a government would know about such impeding failure or risk to many lives with something they are responsible for but still chose to proceed anyway? wow, that would never happen again I sure...
It’s scary when you realize that some of them didn’t die until it hit the water
Wait rlly
none of them died until they hit the water. What's scary is that at least 4 of them activated their PEAPs, which means they were conscious and aware of what was happening.
@@travtuck7646 whats a PEAP buf thats rlly sad that they knew and probably felt what happened
@@Mouse-Step personal egress air pack
@@travtuck7646 ohhhhhh thankyou for telling me
I read somewhere that one of Christa’s students recalled the moment the disaster happened. Everyone was cheering at the liftoff in the cafeteria. When it exploded, the kids actually thought this was normal, so they kept cheering. Then, one teacher shouted, “Everybody, shut up!” Then, everything went silent. At first, the kid though that this was still normal, but nearby, she could see her chemistry teacher crying nearby. One of the saddest things about the disaster is the fact that those kids had no clue of what was going on, and this was probably the moment where they first had to process a tragic loss of life from this freak accident.
I can remember watching this with my father. I was 22 yrs old at the time. I knew he was going to watch it so we aranged to watch it together. it was unbelievable. We couldn't believe what happened. We jump out of our seats, we just stood there in shock. I can't imagine their families having to watch this knowing their loved ones didn't survive.
Watching the footage before they took off gives me chills.
I feel you
Shit crazy
73 seconds though...tragic
I was 7 and a half coming home from school when I saw it
I was 4 years old, at the babysitter's house. This was the first disaster I remember seeing on television
it’s so weird knowing that the crew had no idea what would happen to them. it’s so disturbing. they’re sitting there smiling when it’s the last hours of their lives.
AND they didn’t even die until they hit the ocean. They were conscious the whole way down too they even activated emergency air in their suits
@@NathanielChapman. That's so terrible, I thought most of them died in the explosion..
It'd kinda be better than getting in a rocket you knew might explode. 'Oh the rocket might explode? I'm going to be sitting inside a time bomb? Sure was hoping someone was going to say that. That's good information, thanks.' That would be horrific.
Surely they had an idea that there was a decent chance they wouldn't make it back alive
@PAUL MH38
They wouldn't necessarily still be around today
When it happened I was in my 10th Grade. Remember how this disaster shocked me after reading about it in the Newspaper. 36 years after as I watch this today sent chills through my spine. Homage to the martyers 😢
I was in 3rd grade, watching the launch on TV with the other 3rd and 4th grade classes. I'll never forget it.
Imagine watching your teacher launch out of a rocket that fails. And then going back to school to a different teacher
I was in thigh school watching this live. We’d carted a TV into the classroom. My chemistry teacher was balling her eyes out. I think we may have been sent home early that day. I can’t recall.
H C thigh school? Did you just do squats all day 😂
A lot of her students were there at the launch.They basically watched her die in person.Sad.
SuperAussieViking LOL. Oops. That typo sure changed the meaning of that sentence 😂
They would be going back to a different teacher anyways. She would have been in outer space for weeks
35 Years later, R.I.P, never forget.
@Dog Food Bro are you kidding me? Are you telling me after the ship exploded they survived?
@ Jiho Kim
I dont know if thats what he meant, but they survived the explosion, just not hitting the ground, some even had their oxygen packs on, so they were conscious
@Dog Food bigggggg yikes my friend. You’re falling for a big lie told by people who don’t want to believe that we can go to space, go outside for a bit, enjoy the air, maybe go fishing. Clear your head and visit some family or something. Stop falling for fake conspiracies that topple over once you look at there details
@Dog Food they were you my friend are the biggest disgrace to human history people died and your disrespecting, why would nasa a fake this
@@nicholassutton8210 that's a high five
I was getting ready in Brisbane to board a flight to Adelaide with a friend of mine. At 19 we were SO excited about University, holidays, seeing our old friends, getting driver’s licenses, dating. It seemed a simple time & awful things didn’t happen too much in our really small world.
It was horrific watching this on the TVs at the domestic airport: baggage handlers tears are freely running down their faces; the pilots ask for a minute’s silence before taxiing; white faced stewards are somber, handing out larger glasses of scotch to passengers. Nobody speaks; passengers quietly crying & holding stranger’s hands; 10 year old kid’s sensing something’s awfully wrong. We cried for all of America that day, for the families, for Christa’s school & students & for NASA’s space program.
Never forgotten that day for an America that we loved so much. RIP to the astronauts. ❤❤❤
I remember this very vividly. I was a senior in high school and I was with one of my favorite teachers and some friends watching it in his classrooms TV. We're in school and quiet!! May they rest in peace and we will never forget!!
watching them at the table there smiling, unaware of their eventual fate, this is a disturbing video.
Yeah, My heart is bleeding, i think everyone is also is broken
@@Sec1 shut the fuck up Rocket
@@takeshikovacs8756 ok um relax
@@takeshikovacs8756 Now I'm not
And seeing them happily boarding the shuttle, it’s like seeing people happily getting on the titanic
The guy announcing the nautical miles...you can hear the sadness in his voice after it exploded. Ugh.
@@matteoooo4791 lmaooo dude nooooo don’t make me laugh
@@matteoooo4791 I’m going to hell now you made me laugh
He doesn't know the Shuttle exploded, he only can see gauges and system data
@@theshermantanker7043 lol I think somebody probably told him it exploded or at least he got the idea
@@theshermantanker7043 dude do you really think an engineer didnt get the hint the shuttle exploded seeing all the sensors not reporting nominal data?
After all these years, still brings tears to my eyes.
Was living along the beach at Patrick AFB housing less than a month when this happened. Woke up that morning, and it was freezing. 3/4" ice on everything. Couldn't get the car door open until pounding on it for about 30 minutes, then another 30 minutes warming it up. Said to others at work that the launch must be off, and they thought the same. When it was decided that the launch was a 'go', we were shocked. Watched it in person back then.
Moved back to the beach south of Patrick AFB recently, watching this video really brings it back.
It’s kinda sad that they trained so hard all their lives....just to be cut short in seconds
Minutes actually, they died from the impact of hitting the water
@@ketchumx they had a chance to live. Rest in peace.
@@flak8857 not really considering the height but it’s still horrifying that they were conscious the entire way down
@@NathanielChapman.
They weren't necessarily conscious the entire way down. Not even necessarily alive the entire way
@@gregorsamsa1364 nasa found that they were conscious the whole way down until impact,they even activated their suits emergency system
Even after explosion, the guy continues narrating so calmly.
That's why he's at the job.
@Keiji Shinogi True.
He didn’t know he wasn’t watching a tv he was just reading data
There was no explosion apart from the one performed intentionally to the rockets.
@@marcinmackowicz1332 dude what?
Challenger.... Go with throttle up. Rodger, Going with throttle up. That was the last ever transmission and it gave me cold chills as an 11 year old..... And still does to this day 37 years later.
RIP
Dick Scobee
(1939-1986)
Michael J. Smith
(1945-1986)
Ronald McNair
(1950-1986)
Ellison Onizuka
(1946-1986)
Judith Resnik
(1949-1986)
Gregory Jarvis
(1944-1986)
and
Christa McAuliffe
(1948-1986)
Which one of them was the teacher?
@@alvasalva6500 christa
@@alvasalva6500, yes Christa McAuliffe.
RIP
@Brandon Dulce lol it’s ok
This is still tough to watch so many years later and it always will be.
I remember watching it in class and how I felt. At first I knew something was terribly wrong. But because it happened when they said throttle up and the announcer kept going as did the booster rockets part of me had hoped it was ok.
@@southjerseysound7340 ..
Whats even tougher is they survived the blast but didn't survive the impact.
@@joshuauriarte452 Yes, that is terrifying. That makes it so much worse :(
Joshua Uriarte I hope they were knocked out by the blast. Then they fell unconscious to the sea.
9th grade science class & watched it live with our teacher! This brought back many memories. We are so tiny in this infinite universe.
I've seen this footage various times of the years and it hurts in different ways each time. While I've always felt sadness for the crew and their families, I've grown to empathize with the grief all the folks involved felt. Launches are no small task, and teams of people are involved for months or years getting to launch day. I have to say this is first time I've viewed this footage and realized there was closing footage of debris just falling into the ocean and making huge splashes on impact. A heartbreaking and truly tragic day in our history. Rest in peace, Challenger crew.
Man, at 4:18, 4:19'ish that large piece being flung off to the right is positively just glowing red at the front, can't imagine the heat and force at play there. Just a huge red aura.
I was a senor in high school that day and my science teacher was a finalists to go on the Shuttle Challenger. We all watched in horror when it exploded and it particularly hit our physics teacher very hard. I still keep in touch with him to this day.
What do you mean by finalist? Xx
@@carahughes257 Probably one of the most likely teachers chosen to go on the shuttle.
Cara Hughes I think he means that there was a set of decisions and trials and he was one of the final ones to be chosen to take the program but instead she was changed.
You were at school? My dad was home "sick" watching 2001 a space odyssey.
I was a senior in high school that day too. I still remember it.
"Obviously a major malfunction..."
Understatement of that year.
How's that an understatement?
He was reading numbers off of a computer screen. Have you read any of these comments?
Obviously an understatement, yes. But I’d rather hear that then him screaming or making comments that incite fear and panic
considering Chernobyl Meltdown happened the same year, I wouldn't be so sure of that...
A major and ignored-on-many-tests malfunction.
R.i.p . It was 38 yrs ago . I was 14yrs watching this live at school, afterwards every kid in our school district and state was sent home for the day. I will never forget this day. My Uncle Benny worked for Martin Marietta ‘’ Michound ‘’ in New Orleans . They was laid -off for awhile after the explosion.
After all these years, it is still sad to watch this before the flight knowing what is about to happen to them. They are heroes, and they paved the way for a better tomorrow.
If you find it that sad why are you watching it?
This is what happens when higher-ups don't listen to the scientists who did the math. You'd think people would learn from their mistakes after this.
Correct. My dad was a shuttle systems test engineer from 1973-2005. They knew immediately it was the O rings that failed because the temperature was too low. The Rocket engineers told the higher ups it was too cold. However, politics got in the way. NASA was trying to impress President Reagan. Launched anyway, and the rest is history.
Boeing says HI
Maths, not math. 👍
Tony Hill American or British?
Brad Morgan - actually it’s greek.
We did a case study on this in one of my engineering classes. It's so sad that they were warned not to launch that morning by several departments, but higher-ups overroad that warning and gave it a go anyways. Its reported that some of the crew may have survived after the explosion, and were killed within the cockpit after its impact with the ocean (this was deduced after the autopsy of some remaining bodies recovered). Such a terrible tragedy that could have all been avoided so easily. May their souls rest in peace.
Harrison Zeno Schoonmaker good lord. I pray that they would have been unconscious from the g’s on the way down. That’s horrific.
@@IratePuffin the g's would be so intense that they would die before feeling pain
Harrison Zeno Schoonmaker--I hold a mechanical engineering degree and, when this launch happened, was in my 30s watching it with my then two-year-old son. The media lead-up to this launch was a verbal tongue-lashing by the media deriding NASA on the delays. At one point, one of the media talking heads snarked, "When are we going to turn this turkey into an eagle?" NASA, dependent back then on the good-will of the public and the dollars awarded by a media-influenced Congress, had just weathered a Shuttle flight that held a record of delays until a successful launch. The delays surrounding this Challenger mission would have put NASA in a bad light, and the media were quick to jump all over the agency for another flight with successive cancellations. The weather in Florida was unseasonably cold, which impacted/affected the O-rings. NASA was pressured into making the launch. The rest, sadly, is history. As an aside, I will tell you that there used to be on the Internet an unauthorized transcript of the last transmissions, which NASA insists is bogus. I'm not so sure, for two reasons. One, NASA would not want the families to hear those last horrific moments and, two, they followed what one might expect while the crew cabin was descending. The actual pilot astronauts were trying to regain control, true to their training, although there was no control to be regained. Judy Resnick hyperventilated herself into unconsciousness and one of the astronaut pilots says, "lucky girl". One of the males is praying. Christa McAuliff is screaming all the way down. Don't be too hard on her for that. She wasn't trained as a military member or an astronaut; she was simply a guest on board with just a little bit of training. The crew was alive at point of impact, since they were wearing their flight suits, complete with helmets and air supply. As to my son, when the explosion happened, he looked at me with questioning eyes and pulled at my sleeve, asking a question he dared not put into words. I sat and explained to him in two year old terms how complicated shuttles really were and that, sometimes, things go terribly wrong. He looked at me and said, simply, "Not if I flew it."
Higher-ups not listening to scientists.... Sounds particularly relevant today.
I can't imagine the horror they must have felt. I was in Germany at the time and just got home from work. I got home just in time for lift off and was completely horrified by the event.
A day I will never forget. I know exactly were I was at that minute still today. What a tragedy. What breaks my heart is that some of the crew were aware of what was happening till they impacted the ocean. May they "Rest in Peace".
I was in 4th grade in Jacksonville, FL at the time, and my teacher had gone outside to watch the ascending smoke trail of the launch (you can barely see it looking southward). I had no idea what was going on until my teacher came back - she was visibly upset.
Columbia was a less obvious mistake, but Challenger's crew dying was completely avoidable; administration didn't accept a request for a delay; they deemed their schedual more important than the lives of the astronauts
Well, there was less that could be done once it was up there, but there were still lots of avoidable factors. Engineers asked for pictures of its wing in space to see the extent of the damage, but management didn't want to ask the military for outside help.
@@jrnvrm Morton Thiokol's board didn't listen to the engineers who worked on the SRB's. This was avoidable.
They were warned not to launch that morning by several departments.
@@aprilleerose They always have people wanting to scrub the launch. If the directors listened the launch would literally never happen. It was a defect in the material, no matter the delay they wouldn't have found it. They could have waited for a year and this would have still been the end result.
O rings.
The O rings in the challengers booster rockets were Faulty
“Confidently getting into the van” oh my gosh, they didn’t know what they had gotten themselves into, so sad 😞
They were highly trained astronauts. I'm sure they knew what a van was.
@@James-rq9qb best damn response 😂
Why u make me laugh ? Guess life moves on.
@@James-rq9qb LMAO now that’s my type of humor.
And you’re right they were highly intelligent and probably knew it was politics that was forcing them to do the flight under unsafe conditions
To be fair, the van was the safer of the two vehicles we saw them enter.
After the investigation was completed, the general consensus was that the initial force of the explosion wasn’t conclusively lethal to the crew. There was even evidence that at least one or all of them were still alive as there was a guarded APU switch that had been toggled and some breathing apparatuses had been removed. This would seem to imply that some or all were conscious while the crew compartment was sent into a ballistic arc, free-falling for over two minutes, until it impacted the ocean surface at terminal velocity.
I worked on developing the CCMS (Checkout, Control and Monitoring Subsystem) for the STS program w/NASA c1980-1981. I was in complete shock when the Challenger disaster happened, and it still haunts me.
I’m amazed at how calm the broadcaster is. I’m sure mentally he’s in a state of shock and horror but he can’t show that.
i dont think thats a broadcaster, thats a guy who calls out speed and height of the orbiter, he looks at the data screen not the shuttle...the guy who counts down, thats a broadcaster...and this people are trained to stay calm and not panic in catastrophic situations, otherwise it could get a lot worse...
He didnt have a visual view of the explosion so he cant see the boom
He's just a professional. Not everyone scream as a hysterical woman when something unexpectedly happen.
@@SweBeach2023 he had no vidual btw
@@SweBeach2023 visual *
“Obviously a major malfunction”, not sure if there was a better way to describe this tragedy.
Yea
"Turn the troglodyte up" " okay turning it u" boom that's sad
"Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly" as SpaceX likes to call it.
If I had I rocket company I would call this *we totally planned this*
Q
Stark professionalism. God bless everyone involved, I can't imagine what it took to remain that focused with such tragedy.
I was 15 and remember watching this in school like it was yesterday. I was in science class at the time and our teacher wheeled in a TV so we could watch live. Such a horrible day.
Just for some backup info, Roger Boisjoly was in charge of making sure the challenger had no issues.
He highly advised against the challenger program and when he explained that the O-rings would not fare well in cold weather, the higher ups disregarded him and continued to launch the shuttle even though it was too cold for it to work properly.
The challenger was a failure due to the ignorance of the managers in charge of the project.
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Did the managers get punished for it? Because if they didn't that would've been fucked up
It will always work like that, you think the "managers" give a shit? If something happens they can just blame the supervisors and nothing happens to them.
Reminds me of 1986 Chernobyl
Reminds me of Kamarov when the soviet union pushed for him to board when they found 203 major flaws with the shuttle...he was burnt to a crisp and knowing he was going to die he made sure his funeral was open casket so that the higher ups would be reminded of their mistake...you can find the pic online
They told him to "take off [his] engineer hat and put on [his] manager hat"
The amount of people forgetting that the teacher wasn’t the only person who died on the Challenger is crazy
No one's forgetting, it's just that her students had to watch her die live. It adds extra tragedy to it
@@katieb1049 And the fact that all the astronauts had family watching isn’t tragic?😭
@@springlocks9067 do you want people to specify in every comment? Of course it is, but that's not what those comments are about
They’re just pointing it out, they’re not trying to say she was the only who matters. All lives matter and it really is a tragedy.
@@arbor8445 clown
I remember watching this in school, live. I was 10. As kids we clapped because we didnt know anything was wrong but it didnt take long to realize once the teachers started turning off tvs. Years later to find out the flight crew survived the initial blast and all the info NASA had to not launch that day is heartbreaking
I was in the oil business in Tulsa Oklahoma, and the day the shuttle blew up we were all watching on tv, and I said I believe the oil boom just exploded too, and believe it or not the Anadarko basin oil boom ended. Incredible.
I had no idea it was bad, they just turned our tv off in class and never said a word about it.
It was my birthday, i never forget that day😢
I think some of the astronauts are still somewhere at sea or on an island.
@@connor8558 They should have been able to escape if that capsule was prepared properly.
@@ronniebishop2496
What? How?
i was watching live on cnn when this happened and i will never forget it.
The way he manages to keep his calm and composed voice will haunt me ):
they have to
well if he would’ve screamed at the top of his lungs that would’ve terrified everyone even more
I really don't understand why people don't get this. He HAS to do that as to not cause a panic and accurately report what is happening. He wasn't the first person nor was he the last person to do that. This is very simple yet I see so many people confused by it.
As an Air Force veteran, I listened to, collectively, months worth of communications among and between air crews and flight controllers. What others have said here about the imperative to keep calm and rational are all spot on, but a trained ear can pick up subtle signs of alarm and anxiety in the announcer's voice...cracks in the voice, changes in rhythm of words, pauses and breaths, small falterings in thought and speech.
The man was under incredible stress.
He was probably terrified too but he had to keep calm
Years later, October of 2022, watching this is still so heartbreaking
hello there
Man I wish I could’ve seen all the other launches. Sadly, I was born in the year that the last shuttle launched, 2011.
@@Milzsupercol TH-cam is 13+…
It’s terrific entertainment though
Some divers just found a section of the vehicle off of Florida
This is so sad and eerie, as I am certain some of them had a very bad feeling that morning, this just never should have happened! Hope all surviving family and or friends,are okay today, and that they are very proud of the sacrifice their loved ones made that day! ❤
I'll never forget that day in American history. I was a young child at home with my mother. I remember looking at the t.v. broadcast as the shuttle was ascending never being able to imagine what was getting ready to occur, unreal till this day 💯
The fact they didn't die until they hit the water makes it more scary. (They were all found crushed inside the cabin) so they knew they were about to die for around 3 minutes
No all were killed by the water only 3 of there helmets which contained air supply was activated so only 3 survived the explosion then die once they hit the water
No way that’s nuts
They were unconscious. They didn't knew that they were gonna die.
@@ntitanium finally someone with sense. No way they’re gonna remain conscious for that long after an explosion while plummeting to earth.
They were vaporized the second the shuttle exploded no one could have survived that explosion.
"Roger, go at throttle up" still makes my skin crawl when I hear it.
Michael Smith's last words. Then when it explodes, you hear the explosion over the radio, which gets cut off when the shuttle was destroyed, Once can only hope they were knocked unconscious by the explosion and didn't experience the freefall down to the ocean where they died upon impact.
indeed!
@@ochsj1971 Some life assist systems have been triggered after explosion, unfortunately some of them probably experienced the terrible fall...
@@ochsj1971 sadly,they were conscious the entire way down
Even now watching footage of launches that phrase makes me tense up.
Even after all these years, its still such a slap in the face to look at.
So many comments from young school students. I was a young mom enthralled by space launches. I was home watching and teared up as with every launch ...then it happened and my tears turned to wailing. I'm still proud of our space program....and still wept with joy watching SpaceX launch successfully with those boosters returning to land so gracefully. God rest the souls of all who perished in the pursuit of escaping the mighty tethers of our planet.
The group picture of them in their space suits smiling is such a heartbreaking photo. 💔
exactly:(. it makes me so heart broken seeing how happy they were just moments before their death:(💔
@@The_real_maddiegrace Yeah So much heartbreaking :,(💔
@@The_real_maddiegrace sadly they weren’t very happy before they died because they were conscious the entire way down until they hit the ocean
@@NathanielChapman. Well, I guess not moments then. I'm guessing when I made this comment I forgot truly how many hours from astronauts going into the rocket to launch that it takes. So instead of moments, hours before their death they were happy.
@@The_real_maddiegrace they were probably happy through the launch but not down to the ocean
My God. Imagine being the loved one of any one of these crew members and then just seeing the shuttle explode without warning, with your very eyes, and just trying to process what you just witnessed. What a horrible experience
I’d be in an institution! I’d just lose it.
My God..what God was you referring to???
Christa McCulloughs parents were there watching. 😱😭💔
Ronald Mcnair is my cousin I never met him but my dad know him and would see pictures of him in his aunts house
I’m very close to my cousin but her fathers aunt was apparently on this thing :(
The higher ups at NASA should’ve been blamed. The engineers said it was too cold for launch but they went ahead anyway. RIP to the crew of STS-51-L Challenger.
Today on this 38th anniversary, this tragedy remains one of the world's worst events. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims' family and friends now and forever. Time may heal wounds, but the pain of loss stays with us, God bless.🙏
Its absolutely horrifying knowing some of them were still alive on the way down 😞
they would've fainted going at that speed so probably wouldn't have felt anything but yeah it's horrific
@@Leo.kirsopp according to reports, a few of them activated oxygen packs and there was evidence they were awake for it. Not all but some. When they hit the water, they didn't feel anything
Norman Jackson its heart breaking to think about what was going through their minds
DisturbedModz they were only going at just over 200 mph at impact, and were conscious at and after launch at much higher speeds, so sadly the speed alone would not have resulted In a loss of consciousness.
I have seen a documentary that shows real data of the Captain flying the capsule right into the water. They said some were unconscious but two were not. Their space suits were transmitting data. I think about that and their terror from time to time. They are not forgotten here.
The voice of the mission control dude starts to get shaky after the explosion. He tries to be professional but you can tell he's distraught. RIP Challenger crew.
It’s crazy how he still has to maintain calmness even after the disaster
I didn't notice any shakiness in his voice at all.
Patriots Rising take your meds
@Patriots Rising You only got one oar in the water lmao
I thought he stayed amazingly calm.
I was one of the few to watch this live from my school. It was just before I had to leave for school. I went to school that day with a sad face. I still have a newspaper from that event.
Shocking it's very terrible that's 37 years ago it's always also shocking, Rest In Peace to the Astronauts 🙏
What a tragic event in NASA's history. You can hear the cry and sadness in the narrator's voice at 6:06. He is professionally calm but can only imagine how he is feeling seeing his colleague's rocket exploded in mid air. Absolutely devastating.
Fake
@@Mente_Universal
What?
@@Mente_Universal lol flat earther noob
@@Mente_Universal 😕
@@Mente_Universal did you just call the death of many people FAKE
M grandfather passed away about an hour before this happened. I was a young kid, I was devastated that morning.
Rest In Peace
I feel really bad for u :(
I’m so sorry honey 🥺
Twice...
Oh my goodness. I’m so sorry. 💔
I was 11 yrs old watching it live at my grandma's house. Everyone was stunned. The whole neighborhood went silent. Still one of my saddest memories to date.
I remember watching the shuttle launch on TV in school. I was 11 yrs old. I remember feeing real upset and sad for weeks after it.
Employee 1: “Trust me, I’m the Engineer.”
Employee 2: “Obey me, I’m the manager.”
Employee 1: “The breaks on the bus have a chance to fail and kill all the employees!”
Employee 2: “Listen, we *NEED* them here today, can you prove the breaks will fail?”
Employee 1: “No, but-“
Employee 2: “Then we don’t have a problem.”
Jesus Christ man
Guys I get it was a social statement and never should have happened, but it’s best to pay respect to those that lost their love ones and lives than to make social claims.
@@radiotelevision2371
All 7 of those people died because the NASA higher ups told them to go with the launch. Although I do not blame the higher ups, they had to get government grants. If they waited until the next day, all the kids would be out of school, and Christa’s publicity stunt wouldn’t have worked. (Then again they could’ve changed that as well.)
Point is that the managers are somewhat at fault for the deaths of those brave souls, and people need to know that.
@@veritateseducational217 then say it in a statement like that, this was rather vague and degrading to the event. I watched the documentary as well. It’s just about sticking to the facts, or making a vague statement to *try* to covey a moral or smt.
I was in 10th grade. They made us watch this. The teacher all panicked. I don't remeber what happened after wards. Just the tragedy
We watched it in class as well
Gosh... I'm so sorry you had to witness that... I remember watching the 2nd world trade center get hit by the other plans when I was only 8.
Thank you Carlie, it's sad to see narcissism is alive and well on a video about people dying. Tell us more about you! What did you do the next day? What did you eat for lunch?
@@theloanranger2632 what is your problem? everyone is talking about their experiences watching the launch. Jesus
I to was in high school... We sat watching, l said," That's not supposed to happen!"😳
I was 16 when this happened and we were watching it in school on the tv. Remember it like it was yesterday. Buddy and I actually missed it as we were hanging out by the lockers cutting up. I just remember all the people coming out of the library in shock and some teachers crying.
I remember this like it was yesterday. Our school secretary burst into our classroom crying and inconsolable we could hardly understand her. 😢 What a sad day in America.
The words "Challenger go with throttle up. Roger, go with throttle up." still send shivers down my spine.
What that means? Sorry not english speaker.
@@luyscastillo8669 So about 45 seconds into launch the vehicle begins experiencing maximum dynamic pressure (MAX-Q) and because of these enormous forces, the engines must throttle back to compensate for this. Throttle up takes place once the vehicle is beyond this point. This happens during every single launch.
@Scott Hall- It’s “Go ‘at’ throttle up,” not go “with” throttle up. Throttle up is a stage in the flight trajectory, hence its why they command the pilot to go “at” the stage.
I hear it "challanger no one throw up"" i didnt throw up":v
@Patriots Rising- Its the gravitational pull from Uranus.
35 years today. RIP Challenger Crew
Yep, one of those historic days you never forget. I've seen the memorials of Challenger astronauts Ronald McNair in Lake City, SC and Michael Smith in Morehead City, NC.
I’m really upset 😭 that 7 lives were lost 😞 that day so heartbreaking 💔
It's sad to know that this could have been avoided. Experts warn NASA about this will happen with the O RINGS. NASA has the seven astronauts blood on their hands. Sickening to know this before the shuttle took off.
Yup
@@jeffreyknight3884 too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
I remember watching this live (TV live) while sitting in my 5th grade Science class. The school district sent everybody home. Of course, it wasn’t a time for celebration, and nobody WAS celebrating.
Doesn’t seem like it was almost 40 years ago. And, even after almost 40 years, this still hurts to watch. Sad.
watching it now in modern times. It feels strange, i feel sad to those who are inside the shuttle not knowing they won't even reached the real space. They could have expecting the best. Also, thankful for contributing to improve more the industry
The silence is what’s more horrific 😖
True. Everyone is shocked and speechless
I was a student at UCF when this happened. My friends and I came out of our classroom and, looking up in the sky, we saw the eerie smoke from the explosion and the trails from the rocket boosters lingering in the air. We hadn't yet heard about the explosion, but knew instantly that something had gone terribly wrong while we were in class. We found a radio and tuned in to hear the live news reports about the Challenger exploding. The image of that smoke, which hung over the eastern sky for hours, is forever imprinted in my mind.
Same here. I was about to drive to class at USF in Tampa. The SRB contrails going in different directions made it obvious. Ran inside to hear the news. The night before, it had been in the 20s, and several people said NASA should wait until it warms up a little. But time is money, right?
FYI, this was Columbia (1986), not Challenger.
I was in 3rd grade living in Palm Beach County. They had all of us outside where we had recess to watch the launch as you can see it and I still remember all of these years later. Even at that young age I remember it vividly.
I lived in Miami and was in my American History class (7th grade) when this happened. Saw it on TV then we went outside and saw the same thing, I was horrified.
@@shawnjenkins7469 Columbia happened in 2003. The challenger happened in 1986.
Same here as well. I was a student at Embry-Riddle in Daytona. I saw the launch on my roof/sundeck while watching the NASA closed circuit launch on the Orlando NBC affiliate. I knew something was wrong almost immediately. One minute later, NBC came on with a "Breaking News" bulletin. It was so sad.
Carol Spinney (Big Bird) was supposed to be on that shuttle, however it was decided that the Big Bird Muppet costume was too big to fit comfortably on the shuttle while Spinney was wearing the costume. So NASA chose the teacher instead. This was decided months in advance. It is mentioned in the documentary "I am Big Bird".
Found out they almost sent big bird from Sesame Street on this to get kids Space and science that would’ve looked real bad on TV rest in peace everyone Who was on this mission
God imagine all those yellow feathers bursting and floating to the ocean. It would have been a national tragedy.
they didn't send Big Bird's actor up because the costume wouldn't fit. that's why they did the teacher contest
@@robloxvids2233 yeah… good thing we avoided a national tragedy
@@twelvefortytwo4730 The Challenger disaster was a National Tragedy. My brother was in northern Canada.
@@robloxvids2233 I’m sorry but I laughed a bit at the explanation but still rip
when he said "7 nautical miles" he sounded like he was about to cry, and it absolutely crushes me. how confident and happy he sounded just seconds before. i would talk about how happy everyone on board looked before they boarded, but there are so many comments about it so im just going to focus on the comms. guy. but the fact that he went off the comms. for a minute or so and comes back sounding so crestfallen just tells you about the impact it had on him.
Timestamp?
@@ejosjek52.87 4:13 as the shuttle blew up.
@@Ink_Fazkitty 4:20
I don't think he knew yet there. He was still reading stats and probably wasn't looking. But after yeah he sounds devastated
didn't sound like that at all, lmao
I was in 8th grade science class when this happened and the whole class was watching it on TV. Everyone was so shocked. I don't remember anyone speaking for the rest of the class. I'll never forget that feeling of shock and horror I felt when I saw this.
I was a teacher in West Melbourne, FL in those days. I had taken my 7th & 8th graders out a couple of times but because of the cold weather the launch was put on hold I think twice. Finally a little after 11:30 it launched. Because we were nearly 30 miles away we had to wait for it to appear above the horizon. When it did I could see with my binoculars that there was something not right between the shuttle and the tanks. The large rust colored tank and the two boosters were in line with my sight of it, so I could see the small space between the shuttle and the tanks. I saw that blow torch effect happening right before explosion, not knowing until later what it was. I knew in my heart when it blew that it was deadly. The children were so upset. We didn't have class for the rest of the day. We sat out by our soccer field crying and discussing what might have happened, and praying for the families. I still have an eerie memory of that cloud that had grown into a mushroom like medusa with all its tenacles reaching down to the ocean. We watched it drift away to the east for what seemed like two hours, but it was probably much less. One of the boys had brought me an official NASA hat with the patch on it. His dad worked at the Cape and introduced him to the Astronauts the day before. I still cherish that patch. The hat disintegrated long ago, but the patch is like new.
It's good that the SPACEX Dragon has a launch escape operation to hopefully avoid anything like this happening in the future.
That wouldn't help in this situation. Space shuttle also could emergency separate and make high g turn from SRBs, but there was no warning.
@@janskacel9480 Yeah too sudden to escape. Even for modern systems.
@@praxton The Falcon 9 is a complex rocket. If any critical parameter for crew safety is out of family, it would trigger an in-flight abort. If an explosion occurs in the booster or second stage, you have the trunk acting as a buffer protecting the Dragon capsule itself. Which also buys the abort system time to trigger. The capsule is also more robust than the Shuttle in its design, especially when it comes to non-nominal aerodynamic forces, which was the reason Challenger broke up.
it's better than nothing, but i hope we never see it in action.
@@janskacel9480 I think, at lower altitudes. the Shuttle would not have had enough energy to make it back to the runway at Kennedy.
It is even more sad when you know that the crew survived the blast. The crew module remained pretty much intact until it hit the water. If you read the official accident investigation report, they even managed to grab stills from the video that showed the intact crew module on it's way down. RIP to those lost, a needless disaster that could have been, and should have been avoided if only the management had listened to the engineers that said it was too cold to launch. If you have watched the documentary "Challenger: A Rush to Launch", it is all to clear that the flight should never have taken off that morning. You can't help but feel angry when watching that documentary. When you have a senior engineer thinking it's likely to blow up on the pad as soon as they light the boosters, you know something was seriously wrong in the thought processes of the management team. A disaster that should never have happened.
Well done, you're only the 50th person to spread that sick urban myth. You getting off on the idea that their deaths involved mental torture? It really sounds like it. Sick ***k.
@@BobC250 I suggest you read section D of the Rogers report. It states that out of the four personal egress air packs that were recovered from the crew module, 3 had been activated. The report also makes this statement regarding the g forces the crew and cabin would likely have experienced during the initial blast, - " The range of most probable maximum accelerations is from 12 to 20 G’s in the vertical axis. These accelerations were quite brief. In two seconds, they were below four G’s; in less than ten seconds, the crew compartment was essentially in free fall."Medical analysis indicates that these accelerations are survivable, and that the probability of major injury to crew members is low." And when you consider that Formula One drivers simply walk away from crashes where they have been subjected to forces of 50 g or more, it is easy to see why the report suggests that the crew likely survived the initial blast with little injury.
So, if urban myths come from official investigation reports, then I guess you may have a point.
I, like most other people believed those crew members had died within the first second or two of the explosion, I was shocked to hear retired astronaut Story Musgrave make the claim that probably all of the crew were alive until the crew compartment hit the water, and even worse, at least 3 of them could well have been concious during the plunge according to the evidence found.
I take no sick pleasure by reading those claims in the official findings, just the opposite. And the fact that some of the crew could well have been concious for the two minute ride down makes it even worse.
@@100SteveB well said
@@BobC250 Jus because you deny what happened doesn’t make it any less true. You can’t argue with facts
There is also a new documentary that said their bodies were en tact
Still
In the seats under water
I was 8 years old at Roosevelt Elementary in Hyde Park in Boston, MA.
This followed on the heels of the death of Samantha Smith and her father.
I just remember this time as when some people who meant alot to the New England region were lost tragically.
January 28 1986 and it was a very cold 36 degrees at Cape Canaveral that morning. I was outside working on a job 55 miles away that morning in northwest Orlando up on a hill. I heard the shuttle lift off on the radio so I as well as a few neighbors were looking in the direction of the Cape. We were all mesmerized by seeing the shuttle slowly gaining altitude even from that far away. Then it happened! The disbelief unfolding before our very eyes had everyone praying, crying not believing what would be etched in their minds as well as mine for years to come. Such a tragic event that I still get choked up when I see these videos replayed. Of course I don't need to watch them.I close my eyes and I can still see it happen like it was today.........
One thing I want to add here -- during the launch, many of the flight crews' friends and family were present watching. When the shuttle exploded, most of them were unaware of what just happened. There was confusion among many of them since the SRBs were still lit and traveling, but a few of the people in the stands had been to multiple launches and new immediately what had happened. The realization of the tragedy didn't really sink in for many of them for several minutes since they were suffering from confusion and then shock.
Anyone with eyeballs & ears who watched/heard the coverage knows this. You’re adding nothing to the conversation, Captain Obvious. I swear so many of the people commenting useless “facts” on this video is ridiculous.
@@Bishop228 You got a real rough road ahead of you if something as minuscule as a comment on a TH-cam video gets you this mad.
@@Bishop228 bro i have eyeballs how tf did you know that
When the relatives on the ground saw the explosion, they all cheered because they mistakenly thought it was just the shuttle turning on its full power. It was only when they saw the rocket go off into two pieces and hear the commentator say “obviously a major malfunction” did they realise that something terrible had happened.
@@Bishop228 typical saints fan
This makes me so sad and mad. NASA KNEW what it was unsafe to fly but they cared more about the schedule than the lives of everyone on board. And this teacher wanted to teach kids about space in space and this footage is disturbing and the people didint even know until after that they had died. The people on the flight were so happy before... I’m crying
This is why eLoN musk has more iq than everyone at nasa combined
They cared more about impressing the government
@@jayus2033 Oh please, Elon Musk has literal colbalt mines where children work and die. Elon Musk is no better than the higher ups at NASA
@@akrama1142 I hope the government was pretty fucking impressed
Glad that the space administration has greatly improved in its safety in flight
The shuttle did not “explode”. The external tank exploded due to wind shear that tore the leaking SRB from its mounts. The booster then drove itself into the ET. Challenger broke up from aerodynamic forces when it was thrown free from the tank, not an “explosion”. Recommended: “Challenger: The Final Voyage” by the late Richard S. Lewis. This book, published in 1988, all but predicted the loss of Columbia SEVENTEEN YEARS before it happened. Arnold Aldrich, a shuttle program manager and veteran of the Apollo program in attempting to minimize any further problems with the shuttle, recalled an instance “…where the contractor was OVERLY CONCERNED about insulation coming off the external tank and hitting the orbiter” (page 134, emphasized). The “overly concerned” turned out to be real. Of further interest in the same book is the following from the late astronaut John Young: “We just can’t afford to have another accident…Unless we take very positive steps to open safety communications and to identify and fix early on safety problems, WE ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER SHUTTLE ACCIDENT” (page 197, emphasized). The agency ignored these warnings completely and, most unfortunately in my belief, are still riding herd on America’s space interests.
Does not matter. It was an L
Of course it "matters". They (NASA management) could have halted operations and fixed the "Criticality One" problems they were having. They didn't. In my belief, they ended up committing manslaughter and then did what management always does when it screws up: move people around, smother the truth and successfully avoid accountability.@@AdityaSingh97
Bloody hell. That’s a lot of words just to be pedantic about whether it exploded or not. Also this accident had nothing to do with insulation coming off the tank and hitting the orbiter. That was Columbia so not sure what you mentioned all that for.
As far as I know a faulty o-ring which probably malfunctioned due to the temperature on the day leaked causing a flame to burn into the ET.
The space agency knew about the flaw in the booster segment seals (aided by cold temps and windshear) that caused Challenger's loss and the faulty ET bipod insulation that caused Columbia's loss seventeen years later. In my opinion, manslaughter was committed in both instances because nothing was done about the issues, though there was knowledge of them. Loss of life is to be expected in pioneering ventures, but stubborn pride and stupidity leave little or no margin for error or complacency.
@@jimwatson842 I agree with that. Challenger should never have been launched on that day and someone should be held accountable for the lives lost.
Man, at 4:18, 4:19'ish that large piece being flung off to the right is positively just glowing red at the front, can't imagine the heat and force at play there. Just a huge red aura.
That is believed to have been the crew compartment of the Shuttle, based off the condition it was found in at the bottom of the ocean.
I forgot I had made this comment and thought I was overselling the red glow, but watching it again - jesus fuck. There is value in going into space, in landing on the moon, etc - but sending up billion dollar manned missions over and over to see how daffodils sprout in orbit is maybe kind of a waste. I love space exploration, but manned missions beyond proof of concept seem like pointlessly tempting fate with our primitive tech.@@WhatEvenIsAGoodName
@@hansolo631Every great leap forward for humanity has taken blood in exchange.
That very large piece glowing red that's way off to the right side of the screen is one of the SRB motors. Both of those still were generating thrust but didn't have any guidance, so they both were basically huge bottle rockets at that point and their self-destruct charges hadn't been activated yet.
When this occurred there was a small condo site being built not far from where I live. The builder decided to call the main road in the community Challenger, and he named the side streets after each of the crew members.
That's very commendable, thank you for sharing.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣this was all fake!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, the builder of the condos really did name the street Challenger. You can come and see it for yourself if you don’t believe me.
Is this in Titusville, Florida by chance? I live there and there are many streets named after the Apollo and Challenger missions.
Mickey Phillips
So basically he fell balls deep for the lie. Poor bastard.
As horrible as this was to see it live in school, watching as my teachers cried and school was ended early, this is truly a heart wrenching video even after all of these years. I was 7 years old and I understood what happened. It was horrifying. I cannot even imagine how the families and folks at nasal must have felt at that moment. Utter anguish.
@@russlogan181 okay russ...
@@liamcole9319 don't research it. Just keep gobbling up the propaganda like a good surf
its not horrible there was no gore nor blood.
@@russlogan181 I remember my first beer
@@russlogan181 Cope all you want. But unless you have Research and citations to back it up, People really were killed.
I'll never forget..I was in high school and heard the talk of broadcasting the shuttle launch and Christa's teaching from spacs..on this fateful day I was in drivers Ed class..soon we heard crying outside the room..we were taking test and no tvs on in there..then came a broadcast on the school PA system..it was the dean..she was telling everyone what had happened..she was clearly fighting back tears..somehow we continued our class but clearly it was a somber day afterward
All these years later, it still sends me reeling.
This was one of those events in life where you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when it happened.
Exactly! Just like nine eleven.
I was home for a teacher workday, so I got to watch it at home. I never as an 8 year old thought I would see something like that while sitting on my pink flowered bed, watching my 13 inch black and white TV with an Atari attached...God the details are so vivid, My mom was in the kitchen cooking so she didn't see it. I started screaming and crying that the shuttle exploded. She thought I must have seen the booster separation, which does flame, but I insisted that wasn't it. She came in my room and they were showing all the footage and we both sat on my bed and cried.
I was in the 5th grade during math. We were all watching on TV. The Airbase sirens went off and the base was immediately locked down and we we're all sent home.
That's Flashbulb memory for ya
@Vestis Last time i checked , just because a disaster is in the US , doesn't mean the world outside cannot mourn it. People globally talked about 9/11 , Queen Elizabeth's death , the Turkey earthquake , and this.
Ronald McNair (one of the victims) lived a minute walk away from the house I currently live in (parents moved here in 1996, 10 years after the disaster). His wife still lived there until it burnt down last year. House was rebuilt, but not sure if she moved back in (haven't seen her around).
I would get candy from her while trick-or-treating as a kid. If Ron was still alive, maybe he would still live there as well and I may have been able to meet him. Not just while trick-or-treating, but maybe at the grocery store or while walking around the neighborhood or whatever.
1996 is ten years after, not 12
@@joshuajones2204 Oops my bad, I was thinking about the year I was born (1998).
@Gaming And Movie Entertainment I never said I experienced the disaster. I just said that he lived near the house I live in now.
@Gaming And Movie Entertainment it blew up in 1986.
@Gaming And Movie Entertainment you’re a little late to the party bro. His comment originally said 12 and he changed it to 10 after we corrected him. You can stop replying to everyone’s comment now. Thanks