A musician friend of mine said that what Zeos doesn't like about these is and I'm sudo quoteing my friend now if there is something wrong with the mix the K371s are just all too happy to show it to you. I guess well according to Nic at least these things are too studio for just listening. But funny Zeos liked the 361s. In that review he said for those cans exactly what my friend said for these. If a song sounds trash on them guess what? That's cause it is trash.
I looked up the harman curve, instantly I went to look at my saved EQ settings for all my things just to see if I've naturally gravitated towards that... They all closely resemble the harman curve. That's actually kinda crazy.
Kind of similar to what happened to me. It's funny because it's what the majority of listeners prefer but headphones, especially higher end ones, have classically targeted much brighter signatures. Change is occurring
Your EQ is an offset of frequency response. The only real way to see whether you are achieving the harmon curve (or any frequency response for that matter) is to do frequency spectrum analysis by recording or viewing a signal like white noise or pink noise through a test rig (such as a binaural head with room EQ wizard). While it's cool that your EQ compares to the harmon target, what really matters is the resulting frequency response curve - the EQ only contributes partly to this.
@@davidcorson2435 The point isn't that the EQ makes my speaker/headphones match the curve, rather that I'm just getting closer to what harman hypothesizes. My EQs are unique to each pair of speakers/headphones, obviously they all differ in fre/res, but all the EQ curves boost/lower similar frequencies in harman's curve.
No..... It's not crazy..... It's science..... Reviewers should have a basic understanding of psychoacoustics, the Harman curve & the principles behind it. Human hearing is particularly sensitive in the 1KHz - 5kHz range. Ever wonder why most people find a crying baby to be annoying? Because it's supposed to! We don't perceive that measured dip in the frequency response as a dip. We perceive it as flat (If it's done right.).
@@Storebrand_ My point is that the harman curve is a response - not an EQ... Maybe I'm just kind of confused with your response . To be clear: your EQ could be the exact opposite of the harman curve and STILL YIELD the harman curve... You can't get "closer to what harman hypothesizes" by simply having curves that "boost/lower similar frequencies in the curve" UNLESS you are doing so to correct the underlying frequency response. Forgive me if I'm just reiterating something you're aware of.
those are the first headphones i bought, ive been useing them for many years daylie, i even bought a second pair for home use only, i really like them, i dont know what you have to listen to to make them sound not good, but maybe im just not hearing that well, or interpreting it wrong, but im thinking to buy other headphones for riding bike to work and other outside activities, beause i need about one new kabel every year
I own them...and damn i have fun with them. Im definitely not super critical, but also not.. unconcerned with audio quality and sound. Going from my k7xx to these, it feels the exact same but with better bass/overall equality of lows and highs. I will say, some things come through rough, but also..coming from open back i dont mind. I guess my hearing will suffer from the shrill noises, but I do love them for what I do. gaming/edm/classical music through schiit stack is amazing. runs about half the level of the k7xx on the amp.
Got them (recommended to me in your discord channel that you frequent anymore :P) and I'm pretty happy. Though the pads are great, I got some chinese HM5 hybrids knock offs and that made the sound-stage wider and the sound a bit more v-shaped, not to mention even more comfortable, so I stayed with it. Ordered a few aftermarket cables to see if I can improve on that coiled one (mine is not as bad as that, but still a bit stiff on the straight part). To me they oscillate but just between meh and awesome, depending on the track, so yeah, I'm happy, especially given the price.
@@Guitw2 These chinese ones yes and the size looks the same, but a bit later I took them off, they seem to mess with the sound too much and as Z said, the stock ones we super comfy already.
Bought the K371 and am really happy. They'll replace my DT 770. Sound is a bit more balanced and the heights less sharp, love the sound signature. It's also really comfy. Its amazing and for that price its almost a steal. Would have taken them even for 250€ I think.
I tried both.. I prefer k371... k361 was shouty, I'm sensitive to treble and didn't like it... other hand k371 was smooth overall... clamping force was less hence sealing was not great...still I can definitely live with it
this is completely how I felt when I bought into the hype of MH755s, on some songs they sound absolutely amazing, clean af bass, mids and highs just absolutely right. And the next time I put them on they're absolutely too harsh, too muddy, or too bright and I have no idea why.
JoeZ Ordoñez use audio visualizer plugin in foobar 2000. If you see a big ass block it means the song has been monitored into acustics garbage with everything boosted to the max and no dynamic range.
O also just get a pair of KSC75x for like 14$ from Massdrop (use the 20$ cupon). Bet you they will sound better than most closed back headphones and a lot of open back.
I often times find myself disagreeing with Zeos...however, this review is spot on. I believe what Z was referring to with sounding bad is probably related to the very small but apparent spike in the treble from 6 to 7.5 khz (about 8db). This isn't always noticeable unless the song has an aggressive tilt in that frequency. A great example of this can be heard listening to Tom Sawyer by Rush. Geddy Lee's vocals and keyboard synthesizer and Alex Lifeson's guitar and Neil Peart's crash symbols are prevalent in that range. I really love them, but that peak can become a bit much at times. Another thing to keep in mind is the pads are shallow and soft, so if you have larger ears, they will touch the inner cup after extended use, due to the pads becoming extra soft with body heat. Also, for gaming these are quite good (at least when I tested them playing Dead by Daylight with my EL Stack).
I think it's really interesting that a lot of other people are hearing this 7k thing but I can't for the life of me be bothered by the treble of this thing, and I'm the most mega warm preference kinda guy ever. Must be something about the clamp force and fit on the ear. Only thing clearly forward to me is the 3.5k upper mids and sub bass and that's about it. It's a super boring headphone so not surprised that Z won't like it lol
metal571 and Zeos, I’m literally trying to figure out if I should buy these these things or the Sivga 006. Probably go with Sivga because of sound demos Z did. But I’m still not sure. I feel like the akg could be potentially perfect for me... l have no idea.
@@metal571 I agree. I have larger ears and thus they are closer to the driver. I also get a very good seal, so I think I pickup the treble more. I have the same preferences as you, so I do very much like the AKG K371, but I can see how others wouldn't. My stable of cans are Portapros, K371, LCD-2C and Atticus, so it's evident I love warmth.
@@marksafe5463 Sivgas are awful. I bought a pair for my wife (who isn't picky) and she had me return them the next day. I ended up buying her the Sennheiser HD569 and she was much happier. Each to their own, but I also disliked the Ligma...I mean Sivga.
AKG K361. That might be the real bargain of the century...and...less confusing?! Haha. Thanks for the review, Zeos! Hope you get to compare these with the 361 soon. :)
Harman curve is also considered the headphone mixing and mastering standard, headphones like the shure 1540, focal spirit pro, and hd 600 try to replicate It. It takes into account the vibrations and transitions of sounds throughout a room from a purely flat speaker. So not only is it actually one of the most accurate headphone in its price range, its way more comfortable and well built than its peers. But what youre experiencing with the sound is a hotly mixed track. These don't perfectly match the harmen signature, they are a bit brighter. So because of that, mixes that have too much high end will be exposed REAL FUCKING QUICK.
@@MosoKaiser i guess the right word isnt flat, buts its creation is meant for mixing. The quote about its creation is "good speakers in a good room" for mixing and mastering
They sound amazing and detailed to me. Extremely happy. Make sure the audio source your listening to isn’t shit, some of my iTunes downloads are shit, then go check the same song elsewhere, amazing. You can eq them for pleasure, or most of the time they sound great, super happy.
Yup The fact that Zeos said they sound amazing on some songs and then he said: what’s going on? tells me he has bad files that the K371 are pointing out I notice this with the MDR 7506, they treat bad file as just that. Bad files
The problem with "neutral" is that mastering varies so much that it almost doesn't matter anymore. This is called the Circle of Confusion. The studio monitors used to produce the music aren't flat, the mics aren't flat, EQ is usually added during mixing and mastering, then the consumers don't have a flat headphone or speakers either.
The K361's seem to have slightly better mids from the recordings I've heard. There's a guy who compared the two directly to each other and the 371's almost sound muddy in comparison. I would bet that the perfect "gameplay" video to review headphones with would be an ideal match of Tarkov (probably on Factory)
@@KiyPhi918 that was also before Oluv started using in-ear mics to record which I told him to try, I believe. The EARS as you know is a terrible platform for sound demos
Zeos praised the Pro 82's even though they had really bad highs (even the updated ones) and he's complaining about these even though they blow the Pro 82's and M40X's out of the water.
Danky McSwag I feel he looks at graphs and make his decision from there. The guy was arguing that the 4xx and HD800S were close... Actually that the 4xx was better. Then he'd call people dumbass in the comments section when they didn't agree with him. He comes off as whiney and super sensitive. Not a fan, I kinda was a fan at first but that changed.
Your description of the Harmon curve isn't quite right. It's nothing to do with what humans prefer - it's all about making the headphones sound the same as PERFECTLY FLAT loudspeakers, listened to in an average environment. When listening to speakers, there is typically some loss of treble by the time the sound reaches us - that's why the Harmon curve reduces the treble.
I've come to realize this after watching him for some time. When z doesn't know what to say, i go watch other reviews. Most reviewers tend to like the k371, so it sounds like something worth trying. Also i'm generalizing, but "pro" reviewers tend to like bright headphones and some of them don't like the bass of the K371.
Just listened to the K361's and IDK if i was listening to the correct stuff (James Morrison: Cant Take That Away From Me, Jacob Collier: It Don't Matter.) But there was massive bass roll off after about 100-120hz and it just didnt sound good at all. They are almost exactly the same, the pivoting arm things are plastic on the K361's and they dont click half as much. I listened to them demoed (new out of the box) in a music store. Dont sound half as good as the K371's IMO.
The headphone measures close to Harman’s target, so it depends if your personal target is close to Harman’s or not. It does have a dip at 4kHz, where we are very sensitive, so that is a factor. But for $100-$150, these are my recommendation for closed back, and the X2HR for open back.
No way these are.dark IMO, they seem brighter than neutral to me (despite Harman curve.) The HD 6xx/650 are dark-ish for me and slightly veiled but these are neither IMO. Given the better bass extension and amount, I'd grab these over the Senns for a fun listen.
Ah that's interesting because it sounds like it depends on the song. Depends on the artist. So to stick with my favorite girl ones whilst Avril Lavigne may sound epic Liz Phair may not or may be okayish. Whilst Ariana Grande might sound cool who knows what Mandy Moore would be like. Dam bro that's confusing. Also it's harder as he didn't name any songs that were trash nor really explain why. Or at least what heard that causes him to say they are trash with the trash songs.
"....these are amazing and confusing - probably like the perfect woman." 😂 So true!! So it's the waifu of headphones?🤔 ... ... "You put AKG K371 into your basket"
From my 5min test yeah, the Yamahas had extremely boosted but not as extended bass as the K371 as well as some strange emphasised frequencies in the top end. Not as harsh as the DT770 but it sounded like phasing on some tracks...
please try the redragon H510 headset ,itis 60 usd, has very good mic, good impendence and sounds great --- these are my first "expensive " headphones but i really want you to review them ,i feel they are actually worthy
For me the issue is pushed bass below 50ish Hz and a weird lack around 50/60-100 Hz. Depending on the bass drum tuning it’s either way too much or barely existent. And when bass drum is combined with sine sub bass, it’s mostly gone. For some songs that makes these useless for me. For example the whole i,i Album by Bon Iver. Other Folk albums however sound near perfect. Also I feel like the vocals often times overpower the rest as the peak seems at around 2.5-3k. It would have sounded more balanced in my ears when 1.5k-2k would have been more present in comparison. I‘m absolutely with you. Weird love-hate relationship.
@@jhon9364 I like the Sennheiser HD 660s in that regard. In comparison they feel a bit pushy in the higher bass frequencies and low mids, but once you got used to the profile, they feel rather balanced. They are in a different price range though. Other than that, digging deeper into the HD 560s might be an option as well. That being said - I kept the K371 s and also got used to their signature. Now I like to use both, the Sennheisers as well as the AKGs. I tend to choose the headphones for specific music. Overall the HD 660s feel like the better all rounder for my music consumption.
It’s not the headphones. Definitely bad / weird mixing. Or possibly not getting a consistent seal. These are very prone to sounding awful when you don’t get a good seal.
These are SPECIAL. Easily the best closed back, and one of the best cans overall for the cost. Honestly threw every genre of music i could at them just to try to hear the things you supposedly hear...to no avail. These literally just changed the landscape of mid-fi cans. That's not even mentioning the comfort, and the fact they come with 3!!!!! cables. This'll be your "controversial" review this year for sure.
@Sash Campbell never heard them, never will. 400 beans for a closed back is tough to swallow, and there are better used cans for that cost that are better. The k371 is just a solid can overall for the money, and unseats alot of other cans in that range as the best value.
@@brownchair2698 EMU teaks are great, yes. But go for more than double what you can get a k371 for. Saying what I said is based on the insane price to performance you get with the k371
Great video Zeos. What would you recommend for audiophile accuracy in music production through DAW and live, price range being second hand from £50 - £100? I have a set of AKG 240 MKII and hoping to upgrade and keep these that I have as a spare.
How would you compare those to k712 pro? im used to listen electronic music (synthwave, house, hardstyle), but up to now i used headphones that are quite lacking in bass. Currently i can listen to hd681 and i would say i wouldn't want more bass-based headphones - Is that mean k371 aren't for me? on another hand i don't know if have proper drive for k712 pro - i currently have Fiio Btr5 and AIM SC808. Could you give me advice?
So would You recommend it as fun headphone for soundtracks and immersion single player gaming? I have porta pro but looking for something with more low rumble capability. Where is k361 review
Since I have a legitimate equalizer I can take almost any Headphone and alter it a bit to make it worthwhile but it has to offer something better than my now substantial pile of Headphones for me to consider it ...... I don't think these are my future closed cans so I'll save up for the Focal Elegia but I must admit the Beyerdynamic Gaming Headset is very intriguing....
Zeos... I'm like you. I've been on a quest to find the perfect sub $200 closed headphones for several years now. I've tried a ton, but can't find any that come close to beating the 250 ohm version of the Beyerdynamic DT250. If you can get past the dated broadcast production design--they've been in production for AT LEAST 15 years--the clunky coiled cable and the goofy protrusion where it attaches to the left earcup, you'll be rewarded with the most neutral and most natural sounding headphone. I took them to bed. They're part of my nightstand rig and currently are plugged into a Geshelli Labs Archel2 Pro. Sound amaze-balls. No joke. You do have to do a small mod to the cable where it attaches, or there is some pretty obvious channel imbalance. 5 minute fix--no more channel imbalance. Until I find something that tops these, my choice for sub $200 closed cans is the 250 ohm DT250. Would love to see you review a pair.
hows the sound stage for gaming vs akg k7 series? looking for something closed-back similar to the sound stage of the open k7 series. Kids, dogs, and tv polluting the akgs k712s. Thanks in advance.
hey zeos,whats the best headphone that youve tried and personally love,looking for smtg that i can game and monitor songs on,smtg that will cost under 300 bucks
i have had them for a day and im in the exactly same situation i either love them or hate them, depends whole lot on the track as Zeos mentioned. idk if i should return them or not and get pair of beyerdynamic DT 990/770 or sennheiser hd 600/660
@@XaeroIFBB DT770 and K371 on the frequency response graph are pretty identical, few exceptions here and there for sure, but K371 has more sub-bass than DT770. I find it that the sub-bass boost on the K371 can make or break tracks depending on how much bass the track has
Welp, I'm a long time zeos follower, but I gotta say I totally disagree on this one. I bought a pair after seeing tons of reccomendations. I use these literally 8 hours a day for work (mostly listening to music), and I've yet to hear a song that sounded 'harsh'. The bass is SO tight. Drums and bass sound very natural, vocal detail and higher frequencies are crisp and clear. Midrange is full and balanced. I haven't heard the 361's but id be very shocked about them sounding better. I will say that these are not so much a bulletproof everyday headphone to taoe with you everywhere. The folding mechanism is not one I trust a whole lot. If you ruin a cable, its more annoying to replace than a standard 3.5mm. If you are using them at a desk, though, I highly reccomend.
i dont do measurements, headphones or speakers in rooms. what i do is listen and eq so that it sounds flat to my ears at reasonable volume level, using a tone generator. 15hz to 20khz. the result is what i think is the best starting point and account for any hearing abnormalities and variations in gear. its a baseline for me and my system to reproduce any content.
I finally got a headphone BEFORE Z hyped them. I bought them because metal571 hyped them :). I find these slightly brighter than neutral but in a good way. Bass is surprisingly deep for a small, light headphone. I bought a nice braided cable from ebay. These are solid headphones and I disagree with the idea that they’re schizophrenic, I suspect they’re revealing poor production.
I wasn't bothered by it if there is a peak there. I think these are a little too much on the dark side of neutral overall for studios to enjoy them. Harman is a more consumer friendly tuning in my experience
@Blue funny part is K712 is quite a colored headphone for being "reference". Very easy to see the characteristic K7 series FR for it on rtings for example
It’s a good headphone but man the hype it’s been getting is insane. Don’t think I’ve seen so much hype over a new headphone in my short time in this hobby. Some suggested I “upgrade” to this from a pricier headphone I just got because it “sonically beats any headphone at any price point” (!!!) then I told them I did own it and liked it but not as much as the other headphone I just got, one of the reasons being it had better soundstage, and they then tried to tell me soundstage had little to do with the headphones... Anyway thanks for your review Z, it’s a good headphone and does a good job following a specific target response but it’s not a new messiah.
Any chance you can get your hands on the SR1a Ribbon Headphone for review? looks really sleek and from people who went to camjam that heard it say the sound is really impressive and different from any planar, electrostatic or dynamic headphone available and I would like to here your opinion (an expert) about it. Thanks.
At some point you're going to have to try a (run-in) pair of Yamaha's HPH MT5's, what's real crazy is none of you guys is trying them, yet giving a punt to everything else. Yes and I said the MT5's, not the MT7's, not the MT8's. I'll keep saying this until you or Metal tries the MT5s.
I heard the Yamaha MT5s extensively recently at Guitar Center, they sounded good, but a bit boring and flat, as I would've expected, as monitors. For good monitors the Yamahas are quite good, though. I also listened to these AKGs, sorry it might have been the 361s, and found the fit HORRENDOUS, headband too thin, they just felt weird, and the sound, either too bass-heavy (but muddy) or thin and annoying. Reject! I also tried the AKG 551s on (which I'd been seriously considering buying), the fit was shockingly terrible, either too loose or slipping on my head, the sound was at least decent, though. One thing I've learned is Guitar Center pushes mainly studio monitor stuff, they don't have much in the way of headphones that can be seen as "fun" listening cans. I ended up buying the AT M20xs, forgiving AT for their past harshness, but they still don't sound as warm and fun as my HIfimans, PortaPro, or Linsouls. Guitar Center had gazillions of cheap TASCAM monitors hanging there: I read up on those, well, they're decent, but really intended specifically for studio and mixing work. I wouldn't really expect them to sound great for pleasure listening purposes.
@@thiscorrosion900 I agree about your experiences of the AKGs (especially the awful 551, worst fit in the universe and thinnest sound), but the MT5 in my experience are v.powerful (though well judged and tight), v.fast and v.accurate ...but not flat (and from their measured response graphs they are proven not to be flat). Also you can drive the MT5's v.loud and they maintain their accuracy and don't distort - in this they are among only a few headphones in the world - really!!! ( - that's the MT5s folks).
@@juliansimmons7700 I see, I dunno I only auditioned them for a few minutes. I had higher hopes for the 551s but maybe not. Mainly it was the fit that annoyed me. I was cranking some Bose and Skullcandy Crushers today at Best Buy, they def. distort at a higher volume, moderately high. No thanks.
@@thiscorrosion900 I have a lot of headphones, partially for 'on the road studio' use and partly just for listening, I requiring a headphone experience close to hifi speakers but also with the speed and detail of studio monitors. The Yamaha MT5s are my all round favourite, I use them 90% of the time (I have 3 pairs in different locations). My next favourite is the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO (tesla drivers) - but they need an amp and are only for critical studio use - too harsh for general use (and their bass distorts easily, as most headphones do - except the MT5s). Yes the MT5's if anything are slightly dark, but this means you can turn them up without hearing fatigue. Not come across anything better, but each to their own, I have no idea why Z has such an aversion to Yamaha that he doesn't review the MT5s!
So... it's basically like a love-hate relationship? Are they better than Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro though? Thought of buying these but i don't know if i'll be downgrading from the DT770's with these.
I wonder how the padswapped Monoprice Modern Retros contend in the current market? I got a pair and they are my best 35 dollar purchase. I just wish i had more cans to use those pads on!
Honeslty. The 371 still are the better headphones. Take what zeos said with a bowl of salt. I haven't really noticed any major issue with them like that.
I remember one other headphone which was said to follow the harman curve, I believe it was the NAD headphones... and they were some of the least impressive sounding things I've had on my head.
metal571 That makes me so sad! I am a happy owner of a NAD HP50. And yeah, these headphones are so darn uncomfortable out of the box. Whoever designed the headband should be shot in the face. HOWEVER, stretching the headband into a more oval shape (like a human skull) fixes EVERYTHING. I’m love with how the HP50 sounds. It’s so smooth and the vocals are really amazing.
I watched some other guy review these who went through 4 pairs trying to get a pair without faults but failed! Also I dont think any of them measured the same lol
What did they measure on? Only things I can think of compatible with the Harman target is a GRAS. MiniDSP and the like don't work and aren't reliable at all except for certain frequencies. Headphone measurement isn't as easy as it sounds.
I don't feel like a dude who is used to super expensive headphones should review budget headphones because hell have a shitton of nitpicks and people in result cant choose which headohones to buy. Remember, most people who are buying budget headphones arent used to £8k studio headphones.
I'm A/B with the Audioquest NightOwls.... and uh.....I think they are very similar tonally....but uh....the K371 bests the NightOwls in dynamics, treble clarity, textures. The NightOwls do sound a little more ambient which is a magic trick for a closed can....but this trick is not enough to best the K371 over all. Neither are the K371's far superior fabulous finish, carrying case, accessories, etc. overcoming the value proposition. Sure, the K371 look like a plain-Jane, plastic y, utilitarian headphone, but they sound really good even 10 minutes out of the box-- they've got breaking in to do to sound their best.
I love the way how he reviewed these headphones he reviews them like f****** Gordon Ramsay which I do love he doesn't just say oh this is good or oh this is bad he goes in death it's good I love this guy keep up the good work have a nice day have a nice night
That headphone seems crazy, Zeos. Never stick your head in Crazy.
A musician friend of mine said that what Zeos doesn't like about these is and I'm sudo quoteing my friend now if there is something wrong with the mix the K371s are just all too happy to show it to you. I guess well according to Nic at least these things are too studio for just listening. But funny Zeos liked the 361s. In that review he said for those cans exactly what my friend said for these. If a song sounds trash on them guess what? That's cause it is trash.
I looked up the harman curve, instantly I went to look at my saved EQ settings for all my things just to see if I've naturally gravitated towards that... They all closely resemble the harman curve. That's actually kinda crazy.
Kind of similar to what happened to me. It's funny because it's what the majority of listeners prefer but headphones, especially higher end ones, have classically targeted much brighter signatures. Change is occurring
Your EQ is an offset of frequency response. The only real way to see whether you are achieving the harmon curve (or any frequency response for that matter) is to do frequency spectrum analysis by recording or viewing a signal like white noise or pink noise through a test rig (such as a binaural head with room EQ wizard). While it's cool that your EQ compares to the harmon target, what really matters is the resulting frequency response curve - the EQ only contributes partly to this.
@@davidcorson2435 The point isn't that the EQ makes my speaker/headphones match the curve, rather that I'm just getting closer to what harman hypothesizes. My EQs are unique to each pair of speakers/headphones, obviously they all differ in fre/res, but all the EQ curves boost/lower similar frequencies in harman's curve.
No..... It's not crazy..... It's science..... Reviewers should have a basic understanding of psychoacoustics, the Harman curve & the principles behind it. Human hearing is particularly sensitive in the 1KHz - 5kHz range. Ever wonder why most people find a crying baby to be annoying? Because it's supposed to! We don't perceive that measured dip in the frequency response as a dip. We perceive it as flat (If it's done right.).
@@Storebrand_ My point is that the harman curve is a response - not an EQ... Maybe I'm just kind of confused with your response . To be clear: your EQ could be the exact opposite of the harman curve and STILL YIELD the harman curve... You can't get "closer to what harman hypothesizes" by simply having curves that "boost/lower similar frequencies in the curve" UNLESS you are doing so to correct the underlying frequency response. Forgive me if I'm just reiterating something you're aware of.
Water-proof bag, Pull Tie. Pick one.
those are the first headphones i bought, ive been useing them for many years daylie, i even bought a second pair for home use only, i really like them, i dont know what you have to listen to to make them sound not good, but maybe im just not hearing that well, or interpreting it wrong, but im thinking to buy other headphones for riding bike to work and other outside activities, beause i need about one new kabel every year
I own them...and damn i have fun with them. Im definitely not super critical, but also not.. unconcerned with audio quality and sound. Going from my k7xx to these, it feels the exact same but with better bass/overall equality of lows and highs. I will say, some things come through rough, but also..coming from open back i dont mind. I guess my hearing will suffer from the shrill noises, but I do love them for what I do. gaming/edm/classical music through schiit stack is amazing. runs about half the level of the k7xx on the amp.
Got them (recommended to me in your discord channel that you frequent anymore :P) and I'm pretty happy. Though the pads are great, I got some chinese HM5 hybrids knock offs and that made the sound-stage wider and the sound a bit more v-shaped, not to mention even more comfortable, so I stayed with it. Ordered a few aftermarket cables to see if I can improve on that coiled one (mine is not as bad as that, but still a bit stiff on the straight part). To me they oscillate but just between meh and awesome, depending on the track, so yeah, I'm happy, especially given the price.
Does the HM5 pad fit these akg? I was checking the measurements from brainwavz and they seem to be incompatible
@@Guitw2 These chinese ones yes and the size looks the same, but a bit later I took them off, they seem to mess with the sound too much and as Z said, the stock ones we super comfy already.
sorry Zeos but the philips fidellio x2hr sucked when I bought them on cyber monday. Now, they're on the way back to Amazon.
swifty1969 nice to see someone in the comment section being able to tell lofi headphones from hifi.
yeah I've still got them, haven't got around to selling them yet. They are so bad! ear piercing highs
Bought the K371 and am really happy. They'll replace my DT 770. Sound is a bit more balanced and the heights less sharp, love the sound signature. It's also really comfy. Its amazing and for that price its almost a steal. Would have taken them even for 250€ I think.
for everyday use would you recommend them over the dt770s?
@@boodle4952 The dt 770s have a crap ton of bass
So will you review the smaller brother of this, the 361?
i have it here now
@@ZReviews any spoilers please?
@@ZReviews hurry the fuck up about it
I tried both.. I prefer k371... k361 was shouty, I'm sensitive to treble and didn't like it... other hand k371 was smooth overall... clamping force was less hence sealing was not great...still I can definitely live with it
this is completely how I felt when I bought into the hype of MH755s, on some songs they sound absolutely amazing, clean af bass, mids and highs just absolutely right. And the next time I put them on they're absolutely too harsh, too muddy, or too bright and I have no idea why.
JoeZ Ordoñez use audio visualizer plugin in foobar 2000. If you see a big ass block it means the song has been monitored into acustics garbage with everything boosted to the max and no dynamic range.
O also just get a pair of KSC75x for like 14$ from Massdrop (use the 20$ cupon). Bet you they will sound better than most closed back headphones and a lot of open back.
I often times find myself disagreeing with Zeos...however, this review is spot on. I believe what Z was referring to with sounding bad is probably related to the very small but apparent spike in the treble from 6 to 7.5 khz (about 8db). This isn't always noticeable unless the song has an aggressive tilt in that frequency. A great example of this can be heard listening to Tom Sawyer by Rush. Geddy Lee's vocals and keyboard synthesizer and Alex Lifeson's guitar and Neil Peart's crash symbols are prevalent in that range. I really love them, but that peak can become a bit much at times.
Another thing to keep in mind is the pads are shallow and soft, so if you have larger ears, they will touch the inner cup after extended use, due to the pads becoming extra soft with body heat.
Also, for gaming these are quite good (at least when I tested them playing Dead by Daylight with my EL Stack).
I think it's really interesting that a lot of other people are hearing this 7k thing but I can't for the life of me be bothered by the treble of this thing, and I'm the most mega warm preference kinda guy ever. Must be something about the clamp force and fit on the ear. Only thing clearly forward to me is the 3.5k upper mids and sub bass and that's about it. It's a super boring headphone so not surprised that Z won't like it lol
metal571 and Zeos, I’m literally trying to figure out if I should buy these these things or the Sivga 006. Probably go with Sivga because of sound demos Z did. But I’m still not sure. I feel like the akg could be potentially perfect for me... l have no idea.
@@metal571 I agree. I have larger ears and thus they are closer to the driver. I also get a very good seal, so I think I pickup the treble more. I have the same preferences as you, so I do very much like the AKG K371, but I can see how others wouldn't. My stable of cans are Portapros, K371, LCD-2C and Atticus, so it's evident I love warmth.
@@metal571 Another good song that displays this peak is BBK by Korn. Specifically the 1st 30 seconds or so.
@@marksafe5463 Sivgas are awful. I bought a pair for my wife (who isn't picky) and she had me return them the next day. I ended up buying her the Sennheiser HD569 and she was much happier. Each to their own, but I also disliked the Ligma...I mean Sivga.
Dude! Hilariously mixed review. I enjoyed it though. Could eq correction balance out your experience?
AKG K361. That might be the real bargain of the century...and...less confusing?! Haha. Thanks for the review, Zeos! Hope you get to compare these with the 361 soon. :)
K371 is still better. As it should be
Harman curve is also considered the headphone mixing and mastering standard, headphones like the shure 1540, focal spirit pro, and hd 600 try to replicate It. It takes into account the vibrations and transitions of sounds throughout a room from a purely flat speaker. So not only is it actually one of the most accurate headphone in its price range, its way more comfortable and well built than its peers. But what youre experiencing with the sound is a hotly mixed track. These don't perfectly match the harmen signature, they are a bit brighter. So because of that, mixes that have too much high end will be exposed REAL FUCKING QUICK.
The Harman curve doesn't aim for a flat perceived frequency response, but one preferred by listeners.
@@MosoKaiser i guess the right word isnt flat, buts its creation is meant for mixing. The quote about its creation is "good speakers in a good room" for mixing and mastering
It also has a decent dip ~4kHz, so emphasis ~6-8kHz is even more noticeable.
They sound amazing and detailed to me. Extremely happy. Make sure the audio source your listening to isn’t shit, some of my iTunes downloads are shit, then go check the same song elsewhere, amazing. You can eq them for pleasure, or most of the time they sound great, super happy.
371 that is
Exactly, I added some hi freq sparkle just for fun and man, this is way above it's price range.
Do they sound good listening to classical
Yup
The fact that Zeos said they sound amazing on some songs and then he said: what’s going on? tells me he has bad files that the K371 are pointing out
I notice this with the MDR 7506, they treat bad file as just that. Bad files
Since music is supposed to sound good, isn't the audio we listen already tuned to this magic curve even if unconsciously?
The problem with "neutral" is that mastering varies so much that it almost doesn't matter anymore. This is called the Circle of Confusion. The studio monitors used to produce the music aren't flat, the mics aren't flat, EQ is usually added during mixing and mastering, then the consumers don't have a flat headphone or speakers either.
The K361's seem to have slightly better mids from the recordings I've heard. There's a guy who compared the two directly to each other and the 371's almost sound muddy in comparison.
I would bet that the perfect "gameplay" video to review headphones with would be an ideal match of Tarkov (probably on Factory)
Take those recordings with a bit of salt. I have heard both and they sound nothing like the recordings Oluv made.
@@KiyPhi918 that was also before Oluv started using in-ear mics to record which I told him to try, I believe. The EARS as you know is a terrible platform for sound demos
That's not really the case tbh
Hey Zeos, what do you think about this K371 vs K553 ?
Zeos praised the Pro 82's even though they had really bad highs (even the updated ones) and he's complaining about these even though they blow the Pro 82's and M40X's out of the water.
These are great headphones but they absolutely dont "blow" either of the headphones you named "out of the water" that's complete nonsense
He have better reviewers now like oluv and metal571, time to move on.
Danky McSwag I'll give you metal571, not oluv lol.
@@rhodey2952 Oluv is a million times better than Zreviews.
Danky McSwag I feel he looks at graphs and make his decision from there. The guy was arguing that the 4xx and HD800S were close... Actually that the 4xx was better. Then he'd call people dumbass in the comments section when they didn't agree with him. He comes off as whiney and super sensitive. Not a fan, I kinda was a fan at first but that changed.
Your description of the Harmon curve isn't quite right. It's nothing to do with what humans prefer - it's all about making the headphones sound the same as PERFECTLY FLAT loudspeakers, listened to in an average environment. When listening to speakers, there is typically some loss of treble by the time the sound reaches us - that's why the Harmon curve reduces the treble.
Huh. I thought they ran a test. And many people preferred that.
I love my DSP corrected conch shells, haha.
If z doesnt understand what he is hearing there is a high chance the headphone is good to great
I've come to realize this after watching him for some time. When z doesn't know what to say, i go watch other reviews.
Most reviewers tend to like the k371, so it sounds like something worth trying.
Also i'm generalizing, but "pro" reviewers tend to like bright headphones and some of them don't like the bass of the K371.
@@nocturnal0072 yes i have noticed that too. Shimmer in the treble region gets lot of love from pro reviewers
Do you plan on reviewing the lcd1?
Zeos, what's that tube amp on the left, they look really beautiful.
Just listened to the K361's and IDK if i was listening to the correct stuff (James Morrison: Cant Take That Away From Me, Jacob Collier: It Don't Matter.) But there was massive bass roll off after about 100-120hz and it just didnt sound good at all.
They are almost exactly the same, the pivoting arm things are plastic on the K361's and they dont click half as much. I listened to them demoed (new out of the box) in a music store. Dont sound half as good as the K371's IMO.
smells like it's an awful seal
Hi Zeos , what do you think about the the AKG k275? Thanks. Have nice year :)
What earpads you recommend for the k371s
Eh, they ALMOST follow the Harman curve. The parts where they stray are where you're not liking them.
That a possible solution to the riddle.
This is why I miss tyll hertsens so much
DMS couldn't have been more different in his review, he actually thought they were waaaay too dark sounding or 'dead'.
The headphone measures close to Harman’s target, so it depends if your personal target is close to Harman’s or not.
It does have a dip at 4kHz, where we are very sensitive, so that is a factor.
But for $100-$150, these are my recommendation for closed back, and the X2HR for open back.
No way these are.dark IMO, they seem brighter than neutral to me (despite Harman curve.) The HD 6xx/650 are dark-ish for me and slightly veiled but these are neither IMO. Given the better bass extension and amount, I'd grab these over the Senns for a fun listen.
@wcg66
Measurements confirm there is a bit more treble than the Harman curve.
@@homeboi808 Definitely, but I prefer that signature within reason.
@@homeboi808 What about the dt 770 pro? Gigabass man. Gotta have that bass.
Forum Thread :: forum.hifiguides.com/t/akg-k371/6562
The first zeos review that I completely understand what he's talking about... "Oh yeah, oh no, yes, no" mixed feelings all the way
"I LOVE THEM... I hate them?"
I don't. The headphones sound fine. Best closed backs for $150 imo.
Ah that's interesting because it sounds like it depends on the song. Depends on the artist. So to stick with my favorite girl ones whilst Avril Lavigne may sound epic Liz Phair may not or may be okayish. Whilst Ariana Grande might sound cool who knows what Mandy Moore would be like. Dam bro that's confusing. Also it's harder as he didn't name any songs that were trash nor really explain why. Or at least what heard that causes him to say they are trash with the trash songs.
"....these are amazing and confusing - probably like the perfect woman." 😂 So true!!
So it's the waifu of headphones?🤔
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"You put AKG K371 into your basket"
Nah. I disagree with his analogy. They sound fine.
14:25 lmfao i love this review
Is 371 better that yamaha mt5? I need your advice guys,please :)
From my 5min test yeah, the Yamahas had extremely boosted but not as extended bass as the K371 as well as some strange emphasised frequencies in the top end. Not as harsh as the DT770 but it sounded like phasing on some tracks...
you would be a great Rick voice actor
please try the redragon H510 headset ,itis 60 usd, has very good mic, good impendence and sounds great --- these are my first "expensive " headphones but i really want you to review them ,i feel they are actually worthy
For me the issue is pushed bass below 50ish Hz and a weird lack around 50/60-100 Hz. Depending on the bass drum tuning it’s either way too much or barely existent. And when bass drum is combined with sine sub bass, it’s mostly gone. For some songs that makes these useless for me. For example the whole i,i Album by Bon Iver. Other Folk albums however sound near perfect. Also I feel like the vocals often times overpower the rest as the peak seems at around 2.5-3k. It would have sounded more balanced in my ears when 1.5k-2k would have been more present in comparison.
I‘m absolutely with you. Weird love-hate relationship.
I feel exactly the same. What headphones do you recommend that dont´t push bass below 50ish Hz and lack around 50/60-100 Hz?
@@jhon9364 I like the Sennheiser HD 660s in that regard. In comparison they feel a bit pushy in the higher bass frequencies and low mids, but once you got used to the profile, they feel rather balanced. They are in a different price range though. Other than that, digging deeper into the HD 560s might be an option as well.
That being said - I kept the K371 s and also got used to their signature. Now I like to use both, the Sennheisers as well as the AKGs. I tend to choose the headphones for specific music. Overall the HD 660s feel like the better all rounder for my music consumption.
@@halt.halt.halt. Thanks!
It’s not the headphones. Definitely bad / weird mixing. Or possibly not getting a consistent seal. These are very prone to sounding awful when you don’t get a good seal.
He puts it perfectly. Toga would be perfect if you weren't afraid you'd involuntarily donate some blood.
These are SPECIAL. Easily the best closed back, and one of the best cans overall for the cost. Honestly threw every genre of music i could at them just to try to hear the things you supposedly hear...to no avail. These literally just changed the landscape of mid-fi cans. That's not even mentioning the comfort, and the fact they come with 3!!!!! cables. This'll be your "controversial" review this year for sure.
@Sash Campbell never heard them, never will. 400 beans for a closed back is tough to swallow, and there are better used cans for that cost that are better. The k371 is just a solid can overall for the money, and unseats alot of other cans in that range as the best value.
Emu teaks are pretty good though.
@@brownchair2698 EMU teaks are great, yes. But go for more than double what you can get a k371 for. Saying what I said is based on the insane price to performance you get with the k371
@@adamhurd4501 560s might be better than the k371 for the price.
@Sash Campbell Hd25s are more fun than the k371. But they don't necessarily sound better.
Great video Zeos. What would you recommend for audiophile accuracy in music production through DAW and live, price range being second hand from £50 - £100? I have a set of AKG 240 MKII and hoping to upgrade and keep these that I have as a spare.
How would you compare those to k712 pro? im used to listen electronic music (synthwave, house, hardstyle), but up to now i used headphones that are quite lacking in bass. Currently i can listen to hd681 and i would say i wouldn't want more bass-based headphones - Is that mean k371 aren't for me? on another hand i don't know if have proper drive for k712 pro - i currently have Fiio Btr5 and AIM SC808. Could you give me advice?
K371 have insane subbass, would probably suit your music tastes.
So would You recommend it as fun headphone for soundtracks and immersion single player gaming? I have porta pro but looking for something with more low rumble capability. Where is k361 review
Since I have a legitimate equalizer I can take almost any Headphone and alter it a bit to make it worthwhile but it has to offer something better than my now substantial pile of Headphones for me to consider it ......
I don't think these are my future closed cans so I'll save up for the Focal Elegia but I must admit the Beyerdynamic Gaming Headset is very intriguing....
What equalizer is that?
Zeos... I'm like you. I've been on a quest to find the perfect sub $200 closed headphones for several years now. I've tried a ton, but can't find any that come close to beating the 250 ohm version of the Beyerdynamic DT250. If you can get past the dated broadcast production design--they've been in production for AT LEAST 15 years--the clunky coiled cable and the goofy protrusion where it attaches to the left earcup, you'll be rewarded with the most neutral and most natural sounding headphone. I took them to bed. They're part of my nightstand rig and currently are plugged into a Geshelli Labs Archel2 Pro. Sound amaze-balls. No joke. You do have to do a small mod to the cable where it attaches, or there is some pretty obvious channel imbalance. 5 minute fix--no more channel imbalance. Until I find something that tops these, my choice for sub $200 closed cans is the 250 ohm DT250. Would love to see you review a pair.
DT250 is high on my list of things to review. Oluv really seems to like those
@@metal571 Very cool. I'll keep an eye out for that review!
K371 is good. Take what z said with a grain of salt
Get DCA E3 to review ZEOS
hows the sound stage for gaming vs akg k7 series? looking for something closed-back similar to the sound stage of the open k7 series. Kids, dogs, and tv polluting the akgs k712s. Thanks in advance.
"the fuck are these?"
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hey zeos,whats the best headphone that youve tried and personally love,looking for smtg that i can game and monitor songs on,smtg that will cost under 300 bucks
Mofoka Beej just get DT880 250ohm with an ok amp. Large soundstage, good imaging and less bass to hide stuff when monitoring.
just put your hands on each side and push it hard onto you ears, and then, enjoy the warmth.
i have had them for a day and im in the exactly same situation i either love them or hate them, depends whole lot on the track as Zeos mentioned. idk if i should return them or not and get pair of beyerdynamic DT 990/770 or sennheiser hd 600/660
I dont have any these for now but thinking same DT770 or K371 :-/
@@XaeroIFBB DT770 and K371 on the frequency response graph are pretty identical, few exceptions here and there for sure, but K371 has more sub-bass than DT770. I find it that the sub-bass boost on the K371 can make or break tracks depending on how much bass the track has
@@anselminos5238 I am going for K371 I think I will be happy with them :D if nah I will buy also DT :) Thx m8
@@XaeroIFBB yeah i did a moderate -4dB low cut and the K371 sound great and flat
Welp, I'm a long time zeos follower, but I gotta say I totally disagree on this one. I bought a pair after seeing tons of reccomendations. I use these literally 8 hours a day for work (mostly listening to music), and I've yet to hear a song that sounded 'harsh'. The bass is SO tight. Drums and bass sound very natural, vocal detail and higher frequencies are crisp and clear. Midrange is full and balanced. I haven't heard the 361's but id be very shocked about them sounding better.
I will say that these are not so much a bulletproof everyday headphone to taoe with you everywhere. The folding mechanism is not one I trust a whole lot. If you ruin a cable, its more annoying to replace than a standard 3.5mm. If you are using them at a desk, though, I highly reccomend.
Yes, I thought of the same thing. I think it could brake if you use it on the go. But for home use, yes. Perfect.
i dont do measurements, headphones or speakers in rooms. what i do is listen and eq so that it sounds flat to my ears at reasonable volume level, using a tone generator. 15hz to 20khz.
the result is what i think is the best starting point and account for any hearing abnormalities and variations in gear. its a baseline for me and my system to reproduce any content.
Oh the mixed feelings I get from this video! Its like I'm talking to a crush
I never trust his ears. Just for entertainment
Yes. You are right
@@mani7098 number 371
I am so sad now, bought k371BT instead of 361
i should found this review 2 weeks before
Don't be. But maybe you should have bought the regular k371.
Looking forward to the vmoda m200. Try the k361
This one or Yamaha MT5?
DMS loved them and the Harman Curve.
I thought he shat on them in his review?
@@joaofonseca6083 He did lol. But he had an awful pair. Dms in his heart still loves the harman curve. He loves the 560s.
I found a pair of K371 at the price of a K361, which one should i get? please help. :)
K361
K361 has little more treble, it's matter of preference but for me k361. Both of these are great I heard.
@@alexsmith1207 okay i'll get the 361 ,thx bro
I finally got a headphone BEFORE Z hyped them. I bought them because metal571 hyped them :). I find these slightly brighter than neutral but in a good way. Bass is surprisingly deep for a small, light headphone. I bought a nice braided cable from ebay. These are solid headphones and I disagree with the idea that they’re schizophrenic, I suspect they’re revealing poor production.
Measure and DSP the AKG K371 flat and see how they do?
Lol Z doesn't believe in measurements
I wasn't bothered by it if there is a peak there. I think these are a little too much on the dark side of neutral overall for studios to enjoy them. Harman is a more consumer friendly tuning in my experience
@Blue funny part is K712 is quite a colored headphone for being "reference". Very easy to see the characteristic K7 series FR for it on rtings for example
What the heck are the "RAAL-REQUISITE SR1A EARFIELD HEADPHONES"?
How do they compare with 1more triple?
You should take a listen to the K712 Pro or K812
Mark Harmon curve? #gibbslap
It’s a good headphone but man the hype it’s been getting is insane. Don’t think I’ve seen so much hype over a new headphone in my short time in this hobby. Some suggested I “upgrade” to this from a pricier headphone I just got because it “sonically beats any headphone at any price point” (!!!) then I told them I did own it and liked it but not as much as the other headphone I just got, one of the reasons being it had better soundstage, and they then tried to tell me soundstage had little to do with the headphones...
Anyway thanks for your review Z, it’s a good headphone and does a good job following a specific target response but it’s not a new messiah.
Any chance you can get your hands on the SR1a Ribbon Headphone for review? looks really sleek and from people who went to camjam that heard it say the sound is really impressive and different from any planar, electrostatic or dynamic headphone available and I would like to here your opinion (an expert) about it. Thanks.
Are you getting your hands any time soon on AEON 2 Close Back? That's likely to be my new set (for the office, so closed back it is)
Hi, can you put the correct link for the nighthawks. Cheers
You might like the K361 better actually.
which headphone you like best below $300
Hd 560s
You can tell Zeos doesn't really game. These are great for gaming. Not the best but better than most of his "gaming" recommendations.
Not the best. But there is a kick in sub bass. Imaging and Soundstage could be better
Does this mean i have to buy these to experience a new level of 'peanut butter vibes'?
This or the Fidelio h2xr for gaming?
At some point you're going to have to try a (run-in) pair of Yamaha's HPH MT5's, what's real crazy is none of you guys is trying them, yet giving a punt to everything else.
Yes and I said the MT5's, not the MT7's, not the MT8's. I'll keep saying this until you or Metal tries the MT5s.
I heard the Yamaha MT5s extensively recently at Guitar Center, they sounded good, but a bit boring and flat, as I would've expected, as monitors. For good monitors
the Yamahas are quite good, though. I also listened to these AKGs, sorry it might have been the 361s, and found the fit HORRENDOUS, headband too thin, they just felt weird, and the sound, either too bass-heavy (but muddy) or thin and annoying. Reject! I also tried the AKG 551s on (which I'd been seriously considering buying), the fit was shockingly terrible, either too loose or slipping on my head, the sound was at least decent, though. One thing I've learned is Guitar Center pushes mainly studio monitor stuff, they don't have much in the way of headphones that can be seen as "fun" listening cans. I ended up buying the AT M20xs, forgiving AT for their past harshness, but they still don't sound as warm and fun as my HIfimans, PortaPro, or Linsouls. Guitar Center had gazillions of cheap TASCAM monitors hanging there: I read up on those, well, they're decent, but really intended specifically for studio and mixing work. I wouldn't really expect them to sound great for pleasure listening purposes.
@@thiscorrosion900 I agree about your experiences of the AKGs (especially the awful 551, worst fit in the universe and thinnest sound), but the MT5 in my experience are v.powerful (though well judged and tight), v.fast and v.accurate ...but not flat (and from their measured response graphs they are proven not to be flat). Also you can drive the MT5's v.loud and they maintain their accuracy and don't distort - in this they are among only a few headphones in the world - really!!! ( - that's the MT5s folks).
@@juliansimmons7700 I see, I dunno I only auditioned them for a few minutes. I had higher hopes for the 551s but maybe not. Mainly it was the fit that annoyed me. I was cranking some Bose and Skullcandy Crushers today at Best Buy, they def. distort at a higher volume, moderately
high. No thanks.
@@thiscorrosion900 I have a lot of headphones, partially for 'on the road studio' use and partly just for listening, I requiring a headphone experience close to hifi speakers but also with the speed and detail of studio monitors. The Yamaha MT5s are my all round favourite, I use them 90% of the time (I have 3 pairs in different locations). My next favourite is the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO (tesla drivers) - but they need an amp and are only for critical studio use - too harsh for general use (and their bass distorts easily, as most headphones do - except the MT5s). Yes the MT5's if anything are slightly dark, but this means you can turn them up without hearing fatigue. Not come across anything better, but each to their own, I have no idea why Z has such an aversion to Yamaha that he doesn't review the MT5s!
Yet another headphone I now have to buy, thanks 🙄😂
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So... it's basically like a love-hate relationship? Are they better than Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro though? Thought of buying these but i don't know if i'll be downgrading from the DT770's with these.
K371 is much better
k371 is so muuuch better, I have Dt770 Pro 250 so i can confirm this.
@@blackstrobe69 Hell yea brother. Idk why zeos hates it exactly. I mean it really isn't that different from the k361.
I wonder how the padswapped Monoprice Modern Retros contend in the current market? I got a pair and they are my best 35 dollar purchase. I just wish i had more cans to use those pads on!
what amp is that plugged into?
Accurate.
I hope the 361s are similar to the magic of the CB1s. So long as they are comparable but more comfortable it should be good.
Honeslty. The 371 still are the better headphones. Take what zeos said with a bowl of salt. I haven't really noticed any major issue with them like that.
Toga is fuckin cray cray and I love it
Today I listen k361 bt vs k371 bt vs m50xbt. K361 bt - worst. Signature k361 bt like earpods with more bass & treble and like JBL live series
Best intro EVER!!!
I remember one other headphone which was said to follow the harman curve, I believe it was the NAD headphones... and they were some of the least impressive sounding things I've had on my head.
HP50 was so damn uncomfortable. I owned one once. Never again. Soundstage really wasn't that good either despite the marketing
metal571 That makes me so sad! I am a happy owner of a NAD HP50. And yeah, these headphones are so darn uncomfortable out of the box. Whoever designed the headband should be shot in the face. HOWEVER, stretching the headband into a more oval shape (like a human skull) fixes EVERYTHING. I’m love with how the HP50 sounds. It’s so smooth and the vocals are really amazing.
Z i got the Neumannz for 400 new cyber monday
I watched some other guy review these who went through 4 pairs trying to get a pair without faults but failed! Also I dont think any of them measured the same lol
What did they measure on? Only things I can think of compatible with the Harman target is a GRAS. MiniDSP and the like don't work and aren't reliable at all except for certain frequencies. Headphone measurement isn't as easy as it sounds.
I don't feel like a dude who is used to super expensive headphones should review budget headphones because hell have a shitton of nitpicks and people in result cant choose which headohones to buy. Remember, most people who are buying budget headphones arent used to £8k studio headphones.
its confusing because it reveals recording artifact....simple
is it just me or I don't give a sh**t for any closed back headphone anymore? open back is a whole new world!
I don’t get the hype around open backs. They don’t have enough bass, and I see myself boosting the volume too high because of that.
I'm A/B with the Audioquest NightOwls.... and uh.....I think they are very similar tonally....but uh....the K371 bests the NightOwls in dynamics, treble clarity, textures. The NightOwls do sound a little more ambient which is a magic trick for a closed can....but this trick is not enough to best the K371 over all. Neither are the K371's far superior fabulous finish, carrying case, accessories, etc. overcoming the value proposition. Sure, the K371 look like a
plain-Jane, plastic y, utilitarian headphone, but they sound really good even 10 minutes out of the box-- they've got breaking in to do to sound their best.
Which list of headphones under 450$ are good?
for that price, Fostex TR-X00 Mahogany.
CAL but on steroids.
You should try Post Scriptum is you like war sounds.
Were these burned in?
I love the way how he reviewed these headphones he reviews them like f****** Gordon Ramsay which I do love he doesn't just say oh this is good or oh this is bad he goes in death it's good I love this guy keep up the good work have a nice day have a nice night
I had them in shootout @ home - for me the dt770 250Ohm take it every day.
I returned these the day after I got them.. I really don't get all the praise considering the sound. It's shit. lol