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this will result to the increase of orphans when kids are just throwing a tantrum or spoiled retaliating to their parents not knowing the horrible outcome of being a broken family.
He knew and participated in the previous abuse and chose to stay away so he didn't have info on how the abuse was escalating. He has no business having those poor kids now.
I'm not sure how much he knew since he had a full time job. So if he didn't follow it or the children didn't talk to him about certain things.*But he had to of known something or some things.* When I checked it out a few times I didn't feel comfortable something being off 😔
It's crazy that the "dad" wants the state to do better but he wasn't even PRESENT for his own children. He should have done better for his OWN kids. Those women had zero legal grounds for keeping him away from those kids. He could've showed up any time, and if they gave him a hard time he could call the police. He is such a coward, not a real man or real father, that's for sure
and the fact that right after his estranged wife was in jail and his minor children were in taken by the state, he wanted his oldest daughter arrested because he thought she broke into the house (after the cops broke in) and all she did was take important documents for safe keeping. Speaks volumes about the kind of person he is.
That father has some nerve. He just wants to blame everyone else but himself. He could have filed to take the kids away from their abusive mom, I think he was part of it.
Well when a kid says he wants you to take him to the police station AND he has DUCT TAPE AND BRUISING EVERYWHERE, I would HOPE the NO ONES first thought is “let’s take him back”
yes! a parent can't prohibit the other to see their kids. He didn't look for his rights? I know he was, at the beginning, under the influence of that other cult lady, but he spent enough time away to clear his mind... Its sad he didn't fight for them
@hopelessromantic3786 according to the oldest son, this was because they thought the cops were there because Shari defamed Ruby. Originally they both didn't believe what they heard until Kevin spoke to Ruby
That video of the son at the neighbors house still makes me emotional. He is so brave. I’m glad the eldest daughter is speaking out. Family vlogging must end.
It makes me cry every time I see the boys malnutrition and visible bones in the photos. I’m no saint but I would never torture anyone like Ruby Franke.
The old man’s tone seems kinda grumpy at first too, but he was so so brave and spoke of his needs! I have so much respect for R and for the older gentleman who was so kind and patient
The father knew what was happening. There are calls between him and Ruby where Ruby says that some people just can't see evil in children and the eunuch father agrees. He should be behind bars.
Kevin Franke is just as culpable as Ruby Franke.. I honestly hope that Kevin never gets custody of the 4 under age Franke Children.. These kids are not safe under his care…
Agreed. 🤬🤬🤬 At least he had enough sense to divorce that witch. But from what I've seen of him, he'll probably marry another one - Mormon blond waves and all. 😡
Let’s not forget the LDS church was involved with this family and promoted Jodi Hildebrandt(the psycho therapist who manipulated Ruby Franke). Nobody is talking about it, and other families were affected. LDS tried to cover up some facts and deny any involvment.
Jodi absolutely preyed on vulnerable evangelical families. This was a pattern she repeated over and over. Not to mention the insane amount of money she was paid by the Mormon church.
@wmdkitty oh I agree! Ruby was abusing those kids well before Jodi came into the picture, but Jodi absolutely has done this same thing to other families (including her own!)
Kevin also tried to have Shari arrested when she returned to the family home to get things for her underage siblings who were taken into state protection; their iPads, headphones, etc things teenagers would want when being held away from home. Kevin tried to have Shari charged with breaking and entering, and for robbery. Cops told him to get effed, and took Shari to see her sibling (with the iPads).
He, in fact, shunned all of his children for well over a year. No contact at all and no way for them to contact him. Not even on a birthday or Christmas. He's only trying to save his own butt now.
So proud of her for speaking out! It isn't easy to go against your parents, even when they are abusive. She is making positive changes in a world where her mom only made negative changes. Keep going Sherry, you're helping other kids!!
And here's Kevin trying to look like the hero when he was a part of all the abuse the whole time. He is just as sick as Ruby and Jodi. He wanted his own daughter, Sherri, arrested right after all this happened because she took his laptop and he was so afraid of what she was going to find. He is pure evil
Unfortunately that's the only time child services get involved. Either when it's too late and the kid's already dead or when they're still alive but they've been damaged beyond repair.
That poor boy. Trying to be calm and respectful and more professional than he should asking to be taken to a police station for personal business. As a Mom my heart breaks. ❤️🩹 He is so desperate.
He’s so scared. He’d been threatened so many times for telling the world the family’s dirty secrets. He told the neighbours he “deserved” the punishments because he was bad. Brainwashed
SAME!! The fact that he & his Sister TRULY believed that they deserved what was happening to them! That's a level of torture indescribable! I mean, my kids feel like they don't EVER deserve to be punished. Lol! But seriously... What she had to have done to make them believe something so HEINOUS! It breaks my heart! & The daughter taking hours to finally leave her dungeon & forever to even eat food right in front of her! 💔😰 & His saying it's personal bc he was afraid of telling but also ashamed bc he truly believed he deserved it. It's just so devastating & hearing that grown man break down & try to hold himself together & just give facts will NEVER not make me start sobbing!
@Sk3ngz You don't need to post photos online for there to be memories. I have never posted a single photo online of my son. Ever. When he was little I used to email his grandparents photos of him. I refused to post any photos of him online. They used to complain so I stopped emailing them. I don't care who you are. My child will never have images of him online.
Y tu be says the same. Haaaa. But they allow abusive channels while they earn tons off of them UNtil it gets caught out then ok SHut them down. Its all about the money.
I've been saying this for years. These girls today are so starved for attention. They not only put their selves out there, to every type of human being, but they do it to their children. SICK We now live in a world that's full of ME, ME, ME
@@gutwallst6645I had to google it because I had never heard it before. Google says: cheek or effrontery, or ‘a type of behaviour where someone is extremely confident about their own actions but does not understand that their behaviour is unacceptable to others’. I like the phrase.
@@Vcafr0if its a home video why does the world need to see? No one care if you take videos of your kids for YOUR OWN memories. But if you post minors online for the world to see i think it’s weird
Kevin Franke gave in without a fight. If he really cared he would've used all the legal tools available to fight back against his wife. Being asked to leave your home, without a court order, is challenging but also a reason to lawyer up and get help. And why wasn't Kevin monitoring his children?? He has shared responsibility and decided to capitulate, which leaves me with little sympathy.
He probably had a huge chunk of the church telling him to stay away. I'm not saying that excuses his actions, it's just something to factor in to what happened
Wow the words of this young lady are succinct and powerful. So intelligent, so well said. Isn't a shame someone needs to become a victim, to be heard or noticed.
Utah has NO laws regarding child supervision, let alone child vlogging. Utah is negligently behind the curve enacting child protection laws. It was not illegal for Ruby to leave the children to fend for themselves every time she took off. The utter deficit of child rights and protections in Utah tells you exactly how little Utah cares about children.
ALOT of 'viewers' tried to stop what she was doing, and they reported her every upload. Its those compiled complaints that exist as evidence. There are driving licenses and road rules that now exist since the invention of the car... social media is having its evolution.
@Hellofa6ird Your car analogy is great! I never really thought about it like that, but you're absolutely right; social media is still kind of in its Wild West stage, where most anything goes. It's going to take a lot of trial and error to make it a safer place for our kids, but I think that those changes are definitely happening. They just won't happen overnight, unfortunately.
@@ashleybean35 Thanks for being open, I definitely agree changes are happening but remember our car , road rules and associated traffic bureau and laws didn't happen overnight either...
They were normal for years. Then she turned into a monster with her punishments withholding food or sharing very private moments. Certain things she eased us into. All her siblings were doing it too and they seemed normal. But then it escalated and some of us did report her massively and commented on it every time. I think thats when she chose to shut down the channel and go full berserk with Jodi.
It makes no sense to post my child online when they have no understanding of what they are doing. Why does your child have an instagram page that is public? Why are you telling people to follow your child's youtube or any social media profile? I'm just speaking about people in general, I never understood this. I would never post my child online, with a public profile.
I mean, family photos and things designed to be for family and friends are ok. Anything designed to show to the public at large or to earn money is NOT ok. There’s a very obvious line between the two. What do you think about kids who have their own accounts and make their own content for their own audience (properly supervised)? I’m not sure how I feel about it.
I could understand at first, every parent (well, most) thinks their baby is the greatest, most fascinating being that’s ever been born and that they need to bless the world with their brilliance- I certainly thought that, thank goodness it was pre-social media. But now it’s so much more cynical, it’s business, no more no less. They are making a product out of their children which is pretty revolting
Society that values fame and money. What a strange word that is used now "influencers" what is the criteria or that specific number that gives you that descriptive title.
Kevin is lying. He not only knew and approved of the abuse, he was an active participant. Don't let him get away with trying to play innocent victim now.
I saw him having a blast abusing his children in the videos they published on TH-cam. He is actively taking part in all the abuse, and he is vividly having a fun while his kids look scared, sad or very tired in these videos. He is a lucky man not to end up in a prison. But the audacity to play a hero and a victim now... He deserves a huge punishment that will make him self-reflect. If he is even able to.
@@Juliennawell nothing he did actually is illegal. Ruby is not in jail for letti g chad sleep on a bean bag for 7 month or using food withholding as punishment or filming her daughter shaving or reading out chads private messages.
Putting children on any social media is dangerous on many levels. If you want to share pics of your children, group text them to your family only. There are so many predators online, it’s just reckless.
I would never have done that when our kids were little! When Facebook was new, I wouldn't let them have a Facebook page until they were older, and then I made sure they only added their friends from school.
As a teacher, I can’t believe that some of my peers post pictures and even videos of their students (elementary level) on their own (not connected to the school) social media pages. I’d be furious as a parent.
There were/are channels dedicated to reoprting families like the Frankes way before Ruby was arrested. They reported them. Subscribers reported them..to social media admins, to CPS, etc...NOBODY of authority listened!! Hopefully this is the catalyst for great change!!
Everyone in power in SLC and the surrounding towns/city is either a part of or in the pocket of the LDS church. It would be against their interests to put in place any laws pertaining to child welfare.
I’m so glad this young lady is speaking out against what her mother did and also against filming children who have zero input in that decision. Daily videos of children DO NOT belong on social media of any kind. The kids suffer. The Duggars, Kate Plus Eight, the parents who “rehomed” their adopted son, and many more caused extensive and long lasting trauma for these kids. Something needs to be done.
Sherri is such a bright light! She lights up the room with her presence. After YEARS of calling CPS I’m so grateful that the children are now safe. It was BEYOND frustrating when CPS repeatedly said: “There’s no evidence….” So many years of tears, anger, frustration, calls, appointments and absolutely NO APOLOGIES! I pray for their healing and pray they find comfort in loving arms. The aunts & uncles need to be looked at as well KNOWING this was going on yet stayed silent. I’ll continue to pray for all involved…
sorry not sorry. Kevin Franke is SO guilty. He knew that his wife was abusing his kids. He was totally part of it. He should never get custody of these children.
How could he deserve custody when he openly admitted to abandoning them - no legal or personal effort to maintain any contact with the kids, and showed zero concern when told of his kids' condition, still zero when told more of the situation. Just asked how his wife was. At bare minimum, abused and neglected children should not be entrusted to a parent who neglected his duty of care and still seems to see nothing wrong with that, and had no concern when he learned of Ruby's neglect and abuse of them. The reality is that his maintaining contact with the children would have made it very difficult for Ruby to get away with what she did. Unless, of course, he would have knowingly allowed it, which, come to think of it, migh have been the case.
years ago we let children smoke, made them work and made them take medicine with heroin and cocaine in it. Now it’s a horrifying thought. I hope same will be said in the future for children online, whose parents exploit and violate their right to being raised in privacy and safety.
Bravo Shari! I so admire your strength and courage. Thank you for bringing the dark to light for so many. Stay strong, and please take care of your own healing too.
I don’t have kids yet but this case really opened my eyes. I mean, I never cared to be a family vlogger. However, my husband and I both decided that we will not post ours or any children on our social media, even for family to see. If you’re close enough to us, you’ll see them in person. No one needs to form opinions about my child based on social media posts and no stranger should even know what they look like. This is a boundary I have to set for the older folks in our lives who are obsessed with Facebook.
Yes and why is it always boomers and Gen xers. I told my MIL she can't post my daughter online and she went crazy. She posts everything online! Her other granddaughter gets posted online now but the parents seem ok with it. I just don't understand how people don't realise the dangers...
I still can’t get over the fact ruby lied and said the child assaulted the other siblings and neighbors kids just so he’ll be separate from his siblings and alone in foster care. Just to eternally punish him for saving the kids
I firmly believe that the abuse did not start when Hildibrandt entered the picture. There are examples of the awful way Franke treated her kids that she herself posted to her channel (like letting her 6 y.o. kid starve for forgetting to pack her lunch, denying her son use of his own bedroom), and her husband was either complicit or a participant in regards to the abuse. If my kids were taken from me by my spouse, you'd better believe I'd move heaven and earth to make sure I see them as often as possible. The father here is just trying to save face.
I feel horrible that lifetime is making a movie about what happened to these poor, innocent kids just one year ago after they’ve ALREADY had no right to privacy, been exploited all over social media by their parents, then nearly died at the hands of their own mother, a ‘therapist’ and their negligent father. Its not even like this happened a decade ago, this was last year & it’s another experience of someone taking their stories, telling & profiting off of them with NO care or second thought for how that affects kids that have been through enough for ten lifetimes & should be allowed to focus on healing. This is re-traumatizing & victimizing. Unbelievable!!
It is important for people to call out how Mormonism's indoctrination creates a very infantile deluded brains that don't look at things rationally and creates abusive psychos.
I totally agree! Children cannot consent to being publicized. Not only that, but there are so many dangers that go along with putting your children in the face of the public.
Right? CPS is happy to help a disgruntled parent harass another on flimsy accusations during a bad divorce. Actual severe cases of abuse its "Meh, we might have to do our jobs on this one. Can't have that." Family court is usually no better and often makes things worse.
17:15 - Shari refers to Ruby as "Ruby" (and not with any "mother" connotation). That says a lot about how she (rightfully) feels about her after all this.
My mom put my siblings and I through a lot and I remember the day my sister started calling her by her name. It's such a statement and a powerful thing.
The video and the call to the police from the neighbor remain one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever seen and heard. That little boy was courageous. I hope that each of the Franke children continue to have professional support, and that they will be able to trust people again one day, and have nothing but happiness in their futures. They have already suffered enough.
Just for the record, I never watched a single episode of 8 passengers. And the only version I know of this young lady is who she is today. Nothing to be ashamed about.
I really hope Sheri doesn’t let this die. With the new age of social media there should absolutely be laws regarding children on social media, specifically parents exploiting them. This could really be a turning point in creating some new laws for protecting children on social media.
Law and Crime repeatedly showed the kids faces (without any blur) throughout the trial - even after youtube had already taken the videos down. Specifically Sidebar with Jesse Weber did it constantly. Law and Crime, maybe you should make a policy not to show minor victims faces anymore
it is SO messed up that you have a person who is telling you through her first hand experience that this ruined her life, it's ruining the lives of other children, you have very obvious gaps in service where failures are leading to the very preventable unaliving of children but, you know, this is a state where people don't want legislation tell us how to parent... we just love us some libertarianism... If the laws don't have the right to act when free speech becomes abuse of children then your system needs an overhaul. This is not ok
So very well said Sherri!!! The strength and determination in your words ......so powerful!!!! I hope you and your siblings are healing and well!! Much love and prayers for you all 6!!!!
I so agree with her ❤ it took me until my 20s to realize i deserved a better mom, that i would never treat my children like she did. I used to admire her just for meeting our basic needs as a single mom, i didnt realize i deserved actual love and that i've never felt it from her. It's a huge process unraveling all of that
Personally I think all children under age of 16 down should not be shown on the internet because of predators and the abuse of the internet system that allows to do this .
I grew up in mormonism and agree 1000%. It's also deeply sexist against women, and (at least in my church) they repeatedly taught children from toddlerhood that "you chose your family before you came to earth, so anything that happens in your family is what you chose." Gross way to silence child victims. Child labor is also common in Utah, I started work at 8 years old.
I like that Kevin says there's too many loopholes but he didn't even call or visit the kids for a year after leaving them with an unlicensed hack. Maybe try that first before introducing legislation.
The last statement made - why do we need to wait for the child to be in their teens to protest being filmed? Did I miss something? If a 5 year old says they don't want to be filmed, period end!
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Children should be able to sue their parents for putting them online when they don't have their consent!
Agree!
Children can't give consent
this will result to the increase of orphans when kids are just throwing a tantrum or spoiled retaliating to their parents not knowing the horrible outcome of being a broken family.
All that will accomplish is any money that exists the attorneys will end up with .
😂😂
The father knew exactly what was happening. He is as guilty as ruby and jodi
But now he's helping to fight for abused kids.That may Make him seem innocent to some people.
@@cynthiaconnors183 yes creep. loved the money but now oh it was aweful syndrome
@Sk3ngz came to say the exact same thing 👍🏻 I wouldn't even use the term father either vile excuse for a human being.
He knew and participated in the previous abuse and chose to stay away so he didn't have info on how the abuse was escalating. He has no business having those poor kids now.
I'm not sure how much he knew since he had a full time job. So if he didn't follow
it or the children didn't talk to him about certain things.*But he had to of known
something or some things.*
When I checked it out a few times I didn't
feel comfortable something being off 😔
It's crazy that the "dad" wants the state to do better but he wasn't even PRESENT for his own children. He should have done better for his OWN kids. Those women had zero legal grounds for keeping him away from those kids. He could've showed up any time, and if they gave him a hard time he could call the police. He is such a coward, not a real man or real father, that's for sure
and the fact that right after his estranged wife was in jail and his minor children were in taken by the state, he wanted his oldest daughter arrested because he thought she broke into the house (after the cops broke in) and all she did was take important documents for safe keeping. Speaks volumes about the kind of person he is.
Agreed, IMHO he is just as responsible as the other two for the abuse those children survived.
@@TH-camr-c5r5m yes, when parents fail the state isn't a safety net
Yes, you are going to tell he never noticed anything wrong ?in that house. He is just a coward. He is a joke now .
That father has some nerve. He just wants to blame everyone else but himself. He could have filed to take the kids away from their abusive mom, I think he was part of it.
I'm glad the neighbor didn't take the boy back to the parents house.
Well when a kid says he wants you to take him to the police station AND he has DUCT TAPE AND BRUISING EVERYWHERE, I would HOPE the NO ONES first thought is “let’s take him back”
@@julianakleijn9254I would hope so too, sadly many people do take children back home to their abusers, including law enforcement.
Unfortunately, many people believe that the parents are above the law. It’s sick, but it’s true😢
and its sad that there are ppl that would've just walked him back to jodi's house and no telling what would've happened.
It happens too. Why I love them both so much. They made the right choice and saved all of these chidlren's lives.
I’ve said it from the start: Kevin Franke is either guilty of child abuse, or guilty of child neglect.
Agree
yes! a parent can't prohibit the other to see their kids. He didn't look for his rights? I know he was, at the beginning, under the influence of that other cult lady, but he spent enough time away to clear his mind... Its sad he didn't fight for them
Child neglect is also part of child abuse tho
He is guilty of not being a MAN!!!!!!!
I’m still in shock that the dad hasn’t taken responsibility for the wellbeing of his kids.
He’s trying. The state won’t let him take custody. Rightfully so.
@@ginao6810He tried to have his eldest daughter arrested. He's not trying very hard.
I'm not surprised. Anywhere we go, whether you know it or not, evil walks among us
@hopelessromantic3786 according to the oldest son, this was because they thought the cops were there because Shari defamed Ruby. Originally they both didn't believe what they heard until Kevin spoke to Ruby
Agree
That video of the son at the neighbors house still makes me emotional. He is so brave. I’m glad the eldest daughter is speaking out. Family vlogging must end.
How he was even able to walk with those horrific injuries and starvation is beyond me
And gross that to this day You Tube pays these families for this
@@Jenn-ie5vfpays them so well they quit their jobs and exploit their kids 24 hours a day.
It makes me cry every time I see the boys malnutrition and visible bones in the photos. I’m no saint but I would never torture anyone like Ruby Franke.
The old man’s tone seems kinda grumpy at first too, but he was so so brave and spoke of his needs! I have so much respect for R and for the older gentleman who was so kind and patient
The father should be in prison too 😢
I agree for what crime you need evidence.
It’s Utah.
Agree
Yes, he damn well should. Shame on him!
I agree!! The father should be in prison as well!!
The father knew what was happening. There are calls between him and Ruby where Ruby says that some people just can't see evil in children and the eunuch father agrees. He should be behind bars.
Agreed. He capitulated to his wife and her decisions.
Mind blowing that the man stayed away from his own kids for over a year 🤯 pathetic father!
I agree. Also, "not knowing" only proves you're a terrible parent.
Kevin Franke is just as culpable as Ruby Franke.. I honestly hope that Kevin never gets custody of the 4 under age Franke Children.. These kids are not safe under his care…
I’ve said it from the start. Kevin Franke is either guilty of child abuse, or he is guilty of child neglect.
Oh so the father wants to help all the other kids in the world but didn’t help his own kids. Nice.
when the money she made ran out oh yes he switched his tune.
Trying to save his butt
That says alot about him and his stance on family
Thats what nars do. Exactly that.
Had he answered for his crime yet? Maybe he has but we need to know before giving him any credit as a flawed human being.
I’m still highly agitated with Kevin’s incompetence and feigned innocence! He still makes me fume!
Like he is trying to be a hero now.
Agreed. 🤬🤬🤬 At least he had enough sense to divorce that witch. But from what I've seen of him, he'll probably marry another one - Mormon blond waves and all. 😡
I'm even more angry at him than the mom for not doing something earlier..smh
Totally
Let’s not forget the LDS church was involved with this family and promoted Jodi Hildebrandt(the psycho therapist who manipulated Ruby Franke). Nobody is talking about it, and other families were affected. LDS tried to cover up some facts and deny any involvment.
Jodi absolutely preyed on vulnerable evangelical families. This was a pattern she repeated over and over. Not to mention the insane amount of money she was paid by the Mormon church.
Jodi is a distraction. Ruby was abusing those kids for ages before she ever showed her face.
@wmdkitty oh I agree! Ruby was abusing those kids well before Jodi came into the picture, but Jodi absolutely has done this same thing to other families (including her own!)
She mentioned that
That's the $180 billion slush fund in action
The father abandoned his children. He is just as guilty.
he also shunned his daughter i remember. and he had no business doing that to her. f him. he knew.
Kevin also tried to have Shari arrested when she returned to the family home to get things for her underage siblings who were taken into state protection; their iPads, headphones, etc things teenagers would want when being held away from home.
Kevin tried to have Shari charged with breaking and entering, and for robbery. Cops told him to get effed, and took Shari to see her sibling (with the iPads).
He, in fact, shunned all of his children for well over a year. No contact at all and no way for them to contact him. Not even on a birthday or Christmas.
He's only trying to save his own butt now.
Money......
So proud of her for speaking out! It isn't easy to go against your parents, even when they are abusive. She is making positive changes in a world where her mom only made negative changes. Keep going Sherry, you're helping other kids!!
She should call the police a long time ago but she didn't. Nobody did.
@@increible3894she did, repeatedly. It’s well documented.
@@increible3894 🤡🤡
@@increible3894 🤡🤡
She is wiser than 90% of Americans regarding social media and influencers
The father is getting off so easy. He 100% had to know what was going on.
And here's Kevin trying to look like the hero when he was a part of all the abuse the whole time. He is just as sick as Ruby and Jodi. He wanted his own daughter, Sherri, arrested right after all this happened because she took his laptop and he was so afraid of what she was going to find. He is pure evil
Where i come from his kind is called a Slipper hero. ( Always under the rule(slipper) of an extremely dominant woman)
Exactly!!!
Bystanders are just as bad as the bullies/abusers
Child abuse shouldn't have to be seriously horrific for children to be saved from their depraved parents
Shari's speech was on point & moving
@@PA-hi9wj i agree.
100% on point this young lady is wise beyond her years and courageous
Unfortunately that's the only time child services get involved. Either when it's too late and the kid's already dead or when they're still alive but they've been damaged beyond repair.
That poor boy. Trying to be calm and respectful and more professional than he should asking to be taken to a police station for personal business. As a Mom my heart breaks. ❤️🩹 He is so desperate.
He’s so scared. He’d been threatened so many times for telling the world the family’s dirty secrets.
He told the neighbours he “deserved” the punishments because he was bad. Brainwashed
SAME!! The fact that he & his Sister TRULY believed that they deserved what was happening to them! That's a level of torture indescribable! I mean, my kids feel like they don't EVER deserve to be punished. Lol! But seriously... What she had to have done to make them believe something so HEINOUS! It breaks my heart! & The daughter taking hours to finally leave her dungeon & forever to even eat food right in front of her! 💔😰 & His saying it's personal bc he was afraid of telling but also ashamed bc he truly believed he deserved it. It's just so devastating & hearing that grown man break down & try to hold himself together & just give facts will NEVER not make me start sobbing!
The same thing I noticed. Very heartbreaking
The kids had probably had it drummed into their heads to just say "it's personal business" if anyone questioned them.
I cry every time I watch it.....
Poor kid was so respectful, so collected and calm he is mature beyond his age.
"what price is worth giving up your childhood?" SPEAK QUEEN
Her dad is the biggest hypocrite around.
"Family vlogging ruined my innocence long before Ruby commited a crime."
Y'all. Whew!
No child under the age of 16 should be filmed on TH-cam .Period. After 16 only if they give permission AND are compensated fully like the adults.
should not have footage or photos uploaded to accounts of Instagram, Facebook, blogs, vlogs, anywhere online!
should NOT upload recorded footage or photos to accounts on Instagram, Facebook/Meta, X, Snap chat, vlogs or blogs or podcasts.
But then there would be no memories as a child but i get what you mean
@Sk3ngz
You don't need to post photos online for there to be memories. I have never posted a single photo online of my son. Ever. When he was little I used to email his grandparents photos of him. I refused to post any photos of him online. They used to complain so I stopped emailing them. I don't care who you are. My child will never have images of him online.
And paid into their own account
family vlogging while showing your children who can't consent should be illegal
Y tu be says the same. Haaaa. But they allow abusive channels while they earn tons off of them UNtil it gets caught out then ok SHut them down. Its all about the money.
I've been saying this for years. These girls today are so starved for attention. They not only put their selves out there, to every type of human being, but they do it to their children. SICK
We now live in a world that's full of ME, ME, ME
Kevin has a brass neck! He aided and abetted his wife for years even after her arrest! This man is no Father!
never heard of a brass neck, what does it mean?
@@gutwallst6645a neck made of brass
@@gutwallst6645 Cheek or gall. Kevin's shameless because we all know he knew exactly how that woman treated their children.
means hes soft, so to speak. no backbone.@@gutwallst6645
@@gutwallst6645I had to google it because I had never heard it before. Google says: cheek or effrontery, or ‘a type of behaviour where someone is extremely confident about their own actions but does not understand that their behaviour is unacceptable to others’. I like the phrase.
No child needs to be online, I’ve never understood showing millions of strangers my children for any amount of money!
@deblina no child should be online for "money" but for regular home videos and for memories thats fine with me.
@@Vcafr0if its a home video why does the world need to see? No one care if you take videos of your kids for YOUR OWN memories. But if you post minors online for the world to see i think it’s weird
@@krashdummiez007Massive truth.
So true!
I've never understood either.
Kevin Franke gave in without a fight. If he really cared he would've used all the legal tools available to fight back against his wife. Being asked to leave your home, without a court order, is challenging but also a reason to lawyer up and get help. And why wasn't Kevin monitoring his children?? He has shared responsibility and decided to capitulate, which leaves me with little sympathy.
because she made tons of money. hello. now he is making it all her fault. Alarm bells here!!!
@@danamama6766 He's already turned his lawyers onto Ruby's business partner / cult mentor, Jodi, trying to get a chunk of her estate.
I felt like he loves his wife so much. he did everything she told him to do
He was deep in a cult and believed Jodie's bs.
He probably had a huge chunk of the church telling him to stay away. I'm not saying that excuses his actions, it's just something to factor in to what happened
The dad knew ,he should be in prison
Wow the words of this young lady are succinct and powerful. So intelligent, so well said. Isn't a shame someone needs to become a victim, to be heard or noticed.
I’m glad all of them are doing better. Especially the two little ones. Poor babies. 😢
Utah has NO laws regarding child supervision, let alone child vlogging. Utah is negligently behind the curve enacting child protection laws. It was not illegal for Ruby to leave the children to fend for themselves every time she took off. The utter deficit of child rights and protections in Utah tells you exactly how little Utah cares about children.
That’s why Second Nature “therapy” programs are allowed, allegedly.
Utah is behind on a lot of things lol can't imagine why 😅
I can’t believe all the people that followed these people abusing their kids. I saw one segment a couple years ago and was sickened.
2/3=66.6 they want Barabbas
ALOT of 'viewers' tried to stop what she was doing, and they reported her every upload.
Its those compiled complaints that exist as evidence.
There are driving licenses and road rules that now exist since the invention of the car... social media is having its evolution.
@Hellofa6ird Your car analogy is great! I never really thought about it like that, but you're absolutely right; social media is still kind of in its Wild West stage, where most anything goes. It's going to take a lot of trial and error to make it a safer place for our kids, but I think that those changes are definitely happening. They just won't happen overnight, unfortunately.
@@ashleybean35 Thanks for being open, I definitely agree changes are happening but remember our car , road rules and associated traffic bureau and laws didn't happen overnight either...
They were normal for years. Then she turned into a monster with her punishments withholding food or sharing very private moments. Certain things she eased us into. All her siblings were doing it too and they seemed normal. But then it escalated and some of us did report her massively and commented on it every time. I think thats when she chose to shut down the channel and go full berserk with Jodi.
It makes no sense to post my child online when they have no understanding of what they are doing. Why does your child have an instagram page that is public? Why are you telling people to follow your child's youtube or any social media profile? I'm just speaking about people in general, I never understood this. I would never post my child online, with a public profile.
It's the same as pimping your kid out and should be illegal.
I mean, family photos and things designed to be for family and friends are ok. Anything designed to show to the public at large or to earn money is NOT ok. There’s a very obvious line between the two. What do you think about kids who have their own accounts and make their own content for their own audience (properly supervised)? I’m not sure how I feel about it.
I could understand at first, every parent (well, most) thinks their baby is the greatest, most fascinating being that’s ever been born and that they need to bless the world with their brilliance- I certainly thought that, thank goodness it was pre-social media. But now it’s so much more cynical, it’s business, no more no less. They are making a product out of their children which is pretty revolting
Society that values fame and money. What a strange word that is used now "influencers" what is the criteria or that specific number that gives you that descriptive title.
"Account managed by the parents"... that doesn't matter, it's still pictures of the child.
Father knew way more than he lets on. Father should of been protector of family and not allow “ a life coach” to push him out of his family life
I'm very proud of Shari speaking out about the damage to children are made to live their life on U tube.
Kevin is lying. He not only knew and approved of the abuse, he was an active participant. Don't let him get away with trying to play innocent victim now.
I saw him having a blast abusing his children in the videos they published on TH-cam. He is actively taking part in all the abuse, and he is vividly having a fun while his kids look scared, sad or very tired in these videos. He is a lucky man not to end up in a prison. But the audacity to play a hero and a victim now... He deserves a huge punishment that will make him self-reflect. If he is even able to.
@@Juliennawell nothing he did actually is illegal. Ruby is not in jail for letti g chad sleep on a bean bag for 7 month or using food withholding as punishment or filming her daughter shaving or reading out chads private messages.
No kids on social media and no use of social media, until you are 18. End the abuse, with a law.
Such a strong young women. I truly hope this initiates significant change
Putting children on any social media is dangerous on many levels. If you want to share pics of your children, group text them to your family only. There are so many predators online, it’s just reckless.
Friends? Coworkers?
That ok
This is so important - do not post your kids to public spaces. Consent consent consent.
I would never have done that when our kids were little! When Facebook was new, I wouldn't let them have a Facebook page until they were older, and then I made sure they only added their friends from school.
Why is he in a suit behind a desk....put him in jail
The dad should be in jail too
Ruby was never sentenced to jail.
Ruby was never sentenced to jail.
I have a lot of respect for this young lady and what she's doing to spread awareness about including children in public content.
As a teacher, I can’t believe that some of my peers post pictures and even videos of their students (elementary level) on their own (not connected to the school) social media pages. I’d be furious as a parent.
There were/are channels dedicated to reoprting families like the Frankes way before Ruby was arrested. They reported them. Subscribers reported them..to social media admins, to CPS, etc...NOBODY of authority listened!! Hopefully this is the catalyst for great change!!
prayerfully
Everyone in power in SLC and the surrounding towns/city is either a part of or in the pocket of the LDS church. It would be against their interests to put in place any laws pertaining to child welfare.
CPS knocked on the door then when they didn't answer they left and that was all they did . Isn't that sad
@@Junitunesthat speaks a lot about CPS, how ineffective it is
everyone's always saying how wild FL is, but UT never ceases to freak me out
I'm from Florida and agree 💯
@@christinalester scary right? I'm from FL too.
What a strong young lady. She is so well spoken and informative with her statement.
Personally, I think that that relationship between Ruby and Jodi was waaaaaay beyond “mentoring.”
Exactly
Same. I’ve always felt this!
I’m so glad this young lady is speaking out against what her mother did and also against filming children who have zero input in that decision. Daily videos of children DO NOT belong on social media of any kind. The kids suffer. The Duggars, Kate Plus Eight, the parents who “rehomed” their adopted son, and many more caused extensive and long lasting trauma for these kids. Something needs to be done.
It’s not about compensation, it’s about children being exploited.
Glad she is doing better
The father didn’t see his children for over a year. He neglected them by not being there and should be charged as well.
I spent 30 years working with adolescents, the family bloggers parents were terrible
Sherri is such a bright light! She lights up the room with her presence. After YEARS of calling CPS I’m so grateful that the children are now safe. It was BEYOND frustrating when CPS repeatedly said: “There’s no evidence….” So many years of tears, anger, frustration, calls, appointments and absolutely NO APOLOGIES! I pray for their healing and pray they find comfort in loving arms. The aunts & uncles need to be looked at as well KNOWING this was going on yet stayed silent. I’ll continue to pray for all involved…
The word “influencer” is Wacky enough let along exposing all your children. The whole thing is scary 😱
sorry not sorry. Kevin Franke is SO guilty. He knew that his wife was abusing his kids. He was totally part of it. He should never get custody of these children.
How could he deserve custody when he openly admitted to abandoning them - no legal or personal effort to maintain any contact with the kids, and showed zero concern when told of his kids' condition, still zero when told more of the situation. Just asked how his wife was. At bare minimum, abused and neglected children should not be entrusted to a parent who neglected his duty of care and still seems to see nothing wrong with that, and had no concern when he learned of Ruby's neglect and abuse of them. The reality is that his maintaining contact with the children would have made it very difficult for Ruby to get away with what she did. Unless, of course, he would have knowingly allowed it, which, come to think of it, migh have been the case.
@@elizabethkettle2323 totally agree.
Ugh it’s still such a gut punch seeing how tiny the poor boy was
years ago we let children smoke, made them work and made them take medicine with heroin and cocaine in it. Now it’s a horrifying thought.
I hope same will be said in the future for children online, whose parents exploit and violate their right to being raised in privacy and safety.
Bravo Shari! I so admire your strength and courage. Thank you for bringing the dark to light for so many. Stay strong, and please take care of your own healing too.
i grew up watching 8 passengers and every video had a “red flag” something you’d say “this isn’t normal in a family home”
I don’t have kids yet but this case really opened my eyes. I mean, I never cared to be a family vlogger. However, my husband and I both decided that we will not post ours or any children on our social media, even for family to see. If you’re close enough to us, you’ll see them in person. No one needs to form opinions about my child based on social media posts and no stranger should even know what they look like. This is a boundary I have to set for the older folks in our lives who are obsessed with Facebook.
Yes and why is it always boomers and Gen xers. I told my MIL she can't post my daughter online and she went crazy. She posts everything online! Her other granddaughter gets posted online now but the parents seem ok with it. I just don't understand how people don't realise the dangers...
This is the same as child slave labour
I still can’t get over the fact ruby lied and said the child assaulted the other siblings and neighbors kids just so he’ll be separate from his siblings and alone in foster care. Just to eternally punish him for saving the kids
I firmly believe that the abuse did not start when Hildibrandt entered the picture. There are examples of the awful way Franke treated her kids that she herself posted to her channel (like letting her 6 y.o. kid starve for forgetting to pack her lunch, denying her son use of his own bedroom), and her husband was either complicit or a participant in regards to the abuse. If my kids were taken from me by my spouse, you'd better believe I'd move heaven and earth to make sure I see them as often as possible. The father here is just trying to save face.
One of the “loop holes” is the fact that kevin is not in jail now too. Hope this helps!
Her aunts and uncle
All have TH-cam channels. What a charade
and facade
This ☝️
Was my thought too ....
Ellie and Jared seem like great parents to me. But you never know if the kids really like it. Or if they don't feel like filming, are they forced.
I feel horrible that lifetime is making a movie about what happened to these poor, innocent kids just one year ago after they’ve ALREADY had no right to privacy, been exploited all over social media by their parents, then nearly died at the hands of their own mother, a ‘therapist’ and their negligent father. Its not even like this happened a decade ago, this was last year & it’s another experience of someone taking their stories, telling & profiting off of them with NO care or second thought for how that affects kids that have been through enough for ten lifetimes & should be allowed to focus on healing. This is re-traumatizing & victimizing. Unbelievable!!
Disgusting! 🤬🤬
I certainly won’t be watching any series or movie that re-traumatizes these children.
It is important for people to call out how Mormonism's indoctrination creates a very infantile deluded brains that don't look at things rationally and creates abusive psychos.
Also TH-cam should not allow to be on family TH-cam. Also people should just boycott these vlogger’s
Maybe start a petition?
Family vloging is despicable.
I totally agree! Children cannot consent to being publicized. Not only that, but there are so many dangers that go along with putting your children in the face of the public.
I think that poor child is amazing. Going through what they did and having the courage to syand against family vlogging
Why is there always a years-long record of CPS knowing about the situation before anything gets done?
Right? CPS is happy to help a disgruntled parent harass another on flimsy accusations during a bad divorce. Actual severe cases of abuse its "Meh, we might have to do our jobs on this one. Can't have that." Family court is usually no better and often makes things worse.
That dad frickin knew!!!
17:15 - Shari refers to Ruby as "Ruby" (and not with any "mother" connotation). That says a lot about how she (rightfully) feels about her after all this.
My mom put my siblings and I through a lot and I remember the day my sister started calling her by her name. It's such a statement and a powerful thing.
The video and the call to the police from the neighbor remain one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever seen and heard. That little boy was courageous. I hope that each of the Franke children continue to have professional support, and that they will be able to trust people again one day, and have nothing but happiness in their futures. They have already suffered enough.
This video broke my heart!! The story of this poor child really brought me to tears
I can't even hear the video of that little boy going to neighbor without a literal physical ache in my chest. Seriously heartbreaking 💔
Just for the record, I never watched a single episode of 8 passengers. And the only version I know of this young lady is who she is today. Nothing to be ashamed about.
I really hope Sheri doesn’t let this die. With the new age of social media there should absolutely be laws regarding children on social media, specifically parents exploiting them. This could really be a turning point in creating some new laws for protecting children on social media.
Law and Crime repeatedly showed the kids faces (without any blur) throughout the trial - even after youtube had already taken the videos down. Specifically Sidebar with Jesse Weber did it constantly.
Law and Crime, maybe you should make a policy not to show minor victims faces anymore
Glad She is speaking out fighting for other children!!
That woman was very selfish
For all of us that question just how much Kevin Franke knew about the abuse, I bet the book details it.
it is SO messed up that you have a person who is telling you through her first hand experience that this ruined her life, it's ruining the lives of other children, you have very obvious gaps in service where failures are leading to the very preventable unaliving of children but, you know, this is a state where people don't want legislation tell us how to parent... we just love us some libertarianism... If the laws don't have the right to act when free speech becomes abuse of children then your system needs an overhaul. This is not ok
Finally some common sense!!!
It took great courage for that boy to seek help like that from a stranger. You know he had to be terrified of being caught.
So very well said Sherri!!! The strength and determination in your words ......so powerful!!!! I hope you and your siblings are healing and well!! Much love and prayers for you all 6!!!!
I so agree with her ❤ it took me until my 20s to realize i deserved a better mom, that i would never treat my children like she did. I used to admire her just for meeting our basic needs as a single mom, i didnt realize i deserved actual love and that i've never felt it from her. It's a huge process unraveling all of that
Why doesn’t anyone talk about the trafficking that happens within the CPS system?
Maybe her Aunts should listen to her! You would think her own family would listen to their niece to her at the effects it had on them!
Shari, the impact of you're words is huge! So sorry to all you children imacted by this! You are the light! Angels abound💫💫💫💫
Personally I think all children under age of 16 down should not be shown on the internet because of predators and the abuse of the internet system that allows to do this .
I don't think this even needs spelling out - it's too huge an outlet, and the financial ramifications simply cloud the moral wrong.
The problem is the ridiculous religiosity that includes strange practices and secrecy. Mormonism is cruel and uncaring…I know this from experience
I grew up in mormonism and agree 1000%. It's also deeply sexist against women, and (at least in my church) they repeatedly taught children from toddlerhood that "you chose your family before you came to earth, so anything that happens in your family is what you chose." Gross way to silence child victims. Child labor is also common in Utah, I started work at 8 years old.
I like that Kevin says there's too many loopholes but he didn't even call or visit the kids for a year after leaving them with an unlicensed hack. Maybe try that first before introducing legislation.
Oh plz, the father was part of the problem, Jesse Weber you need to push back a bit.
She is brilliant!!! So glad that she has found her voice and that she is so eloquent.
Kevin abandoned his children.
From the time she put him out of the house he should have called child services. He's as guilty as the mom for allowing this to get so far.
When I learned of this story my heart broke. The young man was so brave.
The last statement made - why do we need to wait for the child to be in their teens to protest being filmed? Did I miss something? If a 5 year old says they don't want to be filmed, period end!