What is "Street Grappling"

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  • @AndoMierzwa
    @AndoMierzwa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Pure gold, sir. Sports training is great... until it's not!

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sports training is great if you want to be a professional athlete, but if you're not, you should definitely make send some street defense

    • @AndoMierzwa
      @AndoMierzwa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, sir! Keep preaching!

    • @theredninja2817
      @theredninja2817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really appreciate seeing how one Martial arts instructor is showing respect to another and vice versa that means a lot

    • @AndoMierzwa
      @AndoMierzwa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theredninja2817 The way it should be! Thank you, sir.

  • @peterjanjanin9883
    @peterjanjanin9883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When I trained bjj my professor always said that last place you wanna go is the ground but if you do it's better to be prepared. We trained a lot of throws and street defense too

  • @georgep.5315
    @georgep.5315 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man speaks the truth!

  • @danielpretorius640
    @danielpretorius640 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You are legit man, just subscribed, what you demonstrate in your vids makes total sense!

  • @godtheartist2906
    @godtheartist2906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also shrimping is not only about escaping from mount. Shrimping is just a movement used to get your hips free from certain positions and can even be done while clinched

  • @josephs371
    @josephs371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I see why you usually carry a knife. It make even more sense with the grappling situations.

    • @bigbubba4184
      @bigbubba4184 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its stupid to carry a knife If you stab somebody you do 10 years in prison.

    • @barrettokarate
      @barrettokarate 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's one thing to remember, if you're going to carry a knife. Check your local laws regarding the carrying of bladed weapons. In some places you can carry something as big as a machete or even a sword, while in others (LA city and county for example) knives with blades no longer than three inches. In Texas, blade length varies on the age of the person and activities and locations.
      In the US, butterfly/balisong and ballistic/switch blade knives are illegal according to federal law, from what I've read. However, I've also read that the latter are legal in Texas, which causes a problem because federal law trumps state law. So, if you're gonna carry it might be best to contact your local SO or PD or an attorney, because if you ever get stopped and they find one on you and depending on the cop you could get off scot-free or face some serious time, even if you never use it in an altercation.

    • @profd65
      @profd65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would stab somebody in the fist fight, you fucking coward? You're a total fucking bitch.

    • @tamimhusain3376
      @tamimhusain3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you guys missed the joke lol

  • @helzer9198
    @helzer9198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:13 "Like a vampire!" Awesome Sir!

  • @jasoncaine7829
    @jasoncaine7829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you

  • @peterbrennan393
    @peterbrennan393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great advice --so many bbj morans out there teaching street techniques.

  • @generalmanager5546
    @generalmanager5546 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sport BJJ in the street, thank you for going body to body with the three knives I carry.

    • @profd65
      @profd65 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fucking cowardly bitch. Thanks for admitting what a pussy you are.

    • @profd65
      @profd65 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitch.

  • @sushifitness1174
    @sushifitness1174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great stuff. Many struggle with these concepts and what habits to engrain, myself included. Between traditionalists who seem to believe that no modern "MMA" training or techniques work in real life. Just the techniques the traditionalists have that can't be practiced with live sparring. Or, many newer Ju-Jitsu/MMA guys also limit themselves by just training to a sport and being more of an athlete at times than a Martial Artist.

  • @kubikiribasara3499
    @kubikiribasara3499 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John your school is a REAL martial arts school.

  • @krait44
    @krait44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously some of the best fighting videos on youtube. Love this guy!

  • @survivalistnomad9507
    @survivalistnomad9507 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video. Thank you John.

  • @reap3r793
    @reap3r793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE your shirt. I was in 4th brigade, 25th id (Anchorage, Alaska). I wore that patch with an airborne tab above it!

  • @KrassMaga
    @KrassMaga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for making it so clear! Greetz from Berlin

  • @ShinkaTV
    @ShinkaTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes. THANK you.

  • @johnmcgahan1001
    @johnmcgahan1001 ปีที่แล้ว

    great advice complete common sense thanks for the advice.

  • @followingfist6
    @followingfist6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good teachings!!!!

  • @hamadalrowaie6882
    @hamadalrowaie6882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is an eye opener !! 🖐👺 five stars !! A new subscriber here 🤗

  • @fardhidahmed6003
    @fardhidahmed6003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should take a look to the gracie combatives program. What's your opinion on this program, does this bjj program equalize your method of ''street grappling'' or at least the same principles, sir?

  • @godtheartist2906
    @godtheartist2906 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice I like mostly. Tho I disagree with what you say about getting bit from mount and side control. It is possible(less so in the mount), though mods can be made to keep teeth out of range while in these positions. Keep puting out content !Hope to visit soon!

  • @AZTigerMMA
    @AZTigerMMA 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you are doing the BJJ clench your eyes and jawline are buried... Or should be! I agree with 90% brother and that is good considering most are BS

  • @intellectualninjamonkey2496
    @intellectualninjamonkey2496 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video and very useful techniques.
    It is also very important that you mentioned that people must have some basic knowledge of "sport" principles in order to make the dirty techniques work. Otherwise, people would start the usual "self defence" crap arguments, that is, insisting that no matter how good you are in striking/grappling, one or two dirty techniques can completly nullify a whole proven fighting system like thai, bjj or wrestling.
    Truth is, that if people have no experience in fighting against resistance,they would not even have the time (or instinct) to think that they can bite/gouge/or pull out a knife. The moment the fight will start, they would just feel a guy on their legs and next think they know they will be on the ground and then mounted.
    So, first you must get physical attributes and principles by PLAYING combat sports and THEN take into consideration the dirty tactics. This is proved by the fact that you need some years to become good in fighting against resistance in combat sports but only few lessons to learn what to look out for in a possible street fight.

  • @barrettokarate
    @barrettokarate 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it was the late Frank Trejo who said this, but he said that back in the day in the advanced classes Ed Parker would conceal a training knife in his uniform jacket. He said that when students would ask him about doing grappling in the street he would let the them demonstrate a move (either standing and on the ground) and as they were trying it on him would "stab" and "slash" at their vital organs to let them know that was always a possibility. By the way, Parker was a judo black belt as well and Trejo said would teach him and select group of others throws so he wasn't completely anti grappling.

  • @vincentmcgettigan2338
    @vincentmcgettigan2338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great information.

  • @mattdubya1037
    @mattdubya1037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can grab one or two of his fingers when he slaps on rear naked choke and he's done. that's why small joint locks are banned in MMA. as far as biting the calf armbar defense goes, unless you are a part alligator, he will snap your elbow before you tear a chunk out his calf and he lets go. he might even die from an infection later on because the human bite is nasty, but in the meantime your arm will be crippled forever or worse he might jump back up and kick your head in after he snaps your elbow

  • @liamwalker7989
    @liamwalker7989 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any additional thoughts on you're fighting on a hard surface and you're going for a takedown but just to slam the on the ground?( throws,trips,double legs).

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think a well-placed takedown on concrete could and everything for your opponent, or for you if you're being taken down, that's why take on defenses even more important toI think he well-placed take down on concrete could end everything for your opponent, or for you if you're being taken down, that's why take on defenses even more importantFor street defense than it is in the cage ring or Mat

  • @levedia
    @levedia ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. From now on I'm carrying a knife and a mace on my other pocket.
    Whatever hand is free to reach for my pocket.
    Hopefully with the love of God I won't EVER have to use them ever. 🙏

  • @aribailor3766
    @aribailor3766 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Is the channel named after the echo? ;)

  • @scottyg5403
    @scottyg5403 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Thanks

  • @harageilucid4352
    @harageilucid4352 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:this is sort of misleading in that it seems to suggest that grappling is the "wrong" answer to a knife attack when the truth is there is no RIGHT answer to knives... escape and/or deploy a firearm are the recommended methods (yes i know about the blablabla rule, shooting a knifeman as he comes at you is still better than knife fighting with him or trying to disarm him once he gets there) but when you dont have those options, clinching IS the defense. Your (unarmed) options are
    A) go for an instant KO
    B) establish some kind of control over him
    C) put space between you.
    Thats it. The danger of instant KO is simple: do you want to get into a boxing match with a guy who has a knife in his hand? That may be the right answer in some specific situation but its not better as a general option than going for some type of control. Id guess control is probably better, generally. So yes, you adapt your grapplig to the knife scenario...but no, you do not regard grappling as the "wrong" way to defend against a knife.
    2: Trap and Roll is the first mount escape we learned in my BJJ class. Maybe there are other classes that first teach shrimping alone but i mean "trap and roll" is universal BJJ. So is controlling hands and arms. Does that sometimes collapse in actual fights? Yea but so does everything else. Might as well say you cant throw a punch in a fight because it leaves you open to counter punches while youre punching...its true in its own way but only partly true.
    2: Bite his chest? Lol...sorry but ithink that is just ridiculous. Unless youre goddam Vlad Tepes, the ONLY thing thats gonna do is piss him off, lol. Youve proven why people should train grappling withthis one because if biting his chest is all you have left then youre gonna die. Should have trained in jiujitsu instead of being contemptuous of it; if you knew some grappling then youd have way more effective options than biting.
    3: from side control, if he doesnt do the correct defense with his arms then its an easy keylock (americana or kimura) Ok, he bites you... you rotate his humerous out of its socket... you POP his shoulder. Now that he has got only one arm, you can do whatever you want to him.
    4: knife from side control is a legit threat. Got to really drill the "expect them to reach for their weapon" view into your brain. Knife in general is serious threat. I do appreciate this video for driving that point home ;-)
    5: while youre biting his calf muscle off (which youre not actually going to do) he will poke out your eyes, because hes got dominant position. Then he will break your arm and again, once your arm is broken youll be pretty much helpless. You still lose, lol
    6: using a knife against his arms will, or can work. Thats legit choke defense for the street but id mention that unless you know how to defend the choke (without a knife) youre probably going to sleep anyway. Its literally only a few seconds. But maybe not. If you catch a guy in RNC you better watch out for the knife. I do give you that one.
    7: yes, you need to learn grappling. I agree.
    8: bite vs keylocks from guard is essentially the same argument as the bite vs keylocks from side control. Biting is not an effective kimura defense and youll pay for it with the connective tissue in your shoulder. And what if hes wearing a thick shirt, btw?
    9: great video, thank you. Many things to think about, thank you for that. -Grappling- fighting in self defense has a lot more things to worry about than -grappling- fighting in a competition. Knives being at the top of the list. TRAIN TO EXPECT THE KNIFE!

  • @Almosteasyese
    @Almosteasyese 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pit Master, could you do a video specifically on ways to carry and access your knife in a fight ( and why you might) as well as different ways to stop the other guy from doing so?
    I've seen sleeve carry discussed in classes before, and the draw was shown from a body lock or double leg, with the reasoning being that a trained grappler can be really good at keeping your hands away from your waist

    • @profd65
      @profd65 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you want to pull a knife in a fight? What the fuck is wrong with you? Fucking bitch.

    • @FelipeSantos-xq4tc
      @FelipeSantos-xq4tc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@profd65 this is about someone assaulting you on the street, it's not a fair fight in any way

  • @stealth7476
    @stealth7476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see this person in master wong videos.

  • @amiracleone2803
    @amiracleone2803 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The Pit Master's" real world knowledge is incredible. Great job as always.

  • @subsonic9854
    @subsonic9854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow very different approach from other mma gyms. Awesome stuff!
    Edit: i dont do bjj but wasnt it originally designed for self defense, ie with knee kicks and such? Didnt they (or japanese jujutsu guys in wars long ago) consider concealed weapons in, say, side control?

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the great input

    • @scarred10
      @scarred10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No,neither BJJ nor judo its parent art never considered that.

    • @TheSilence1
      @TheSilence1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The throws in jujutsu/judo are designed to control the weapon hand and put oneself into side control. Furthermore, side control was preferred because because it allows oneself to do a heavy pin and still use both arms and both legs to dislocate and disarm. That's the difference between judo and other kinds of wrestling. th-cam.com/video/--lVHa2ZJ_g/w-d-xo.html

    • @TheSilence1
      @TheSilence1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scarred10 incorrect

    • @scarred10
      @scarred10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSilence1 bjj and judo are solely unarmed combat,they do not address weapons outside unresisted self defense demos.No art anywhere ever adequately addressed edged weapons because it cannot be done.

  • @digitascisco
    @digitascisco 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video!!!

  • @jeffesposito5488
    @jeffesposito5488 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information!

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much

    • @JohnDoe-bn3lf
      @JohnDoe-bn3lf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE PIT Online Dojo good stuff, thankyou for sharing. Love the nail polish btw :-)

  • @gmancrawford8873
    @gmancrawford8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to train my students in knife fighting.good stuff.been stabbed a few times

  • @WebProfitSolutions
    @WebProfitSolutions 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fantatic

  • @thomasjusinski6904
    @thomasjusinski6904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s good to know some submissions, but boxing and kickboxing for your stand up and have a wrestling sprawl and brawl, you never want to be on the ground because you don’t know who’s going to come up and kick you are stop on your head it’s very dangerous to be on the ground fighting anyone

  • @uwotm8634
    @uwotm8634 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's better for standing grappling, bjj or Japanese jiu-jitsu?

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it depends on the instructor in the context

  • @tonymontana3949
    @tonymontana3949 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make again video with other martial sifu or sensei....i remember saw videos in past...good day

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok...I have with karate, wrestling BJJ, kung fu, boxing.... who else

    • @tonymontana3949
      @tonymontana3949 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePitOnlineDojo I know and for that watch your videos

  • @quinngiles7080
    @quinngiles7080 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Bjj is one of the best arts for the streets. But these are great points
    The reason I think BJj is one of the best if not the best martial for the street is becausw if your main concern is self-defence most situations can be avoided by awareness or diffusing the situation. Usually if somebody is trying to punch you or starts walking towards you it's quite simple to keep the distance and tell him I'm sorry I don't want to fight. Sure there are some situations where mad man wants to kill you but generally it's pretty easy to back away. Now when this crazy guy grabs you or starts punching like crazy and you're stuck I find closing the distance is a really good way to defend yourself. Sure strikings amazing too but the one hitter quitter is easier said than done especially if you don't have a lot of experience like me. And also it's quite easy to fall while taking punches or you could get tackled or head locked and then that's what jujitsu is all about.
    My opinion the best art for self defence is Bjj with good striking knowledge (knowing when to use it instead of grappling and having some good punches) as well as a lot of awareness of knives and dirty moves. Good video with a lot of good points! Cause your right! You can't ignore the eyes or some bites. As well as knives.

  • @victorgeorge4804
    @victorgeorge4804 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is always the debate, which in my mind should not exist: Which is better to train for the streets, Sport MA or Self-Defense MA. Often I see people take sides and make fun of the other side. IMHO this is wrong. I am going to offer this: You should train both if you want to be a complete MA person. The sport MA teaches you balance, cardio, self-control, line familiarization, distance management, and stress under duress control - all valuable skills for a real life encounter. The Self-Defense MA teaches you how to deal with soft targets of your opponent, weapons, multiple attackers, and how to channel all the attributes you learned in sport and adapt to your situation. I myself like to do a 2-to-1 split Sport (Jiu Jitsu/Judo)/Self-Defense (JKD). I realize that my sport skills will develop slower than my peers, but my SD awareness and training will be there if I need them for a real life situation.
    Comments?

  • @swannmercury
    @swannmercury 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Electric Pineapple shirt.

  • @edmundt8636
    @edmundt8636 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW streetfight does not involve only 1 fighter, cagefighting yes you can grapple coz only 1 fighter...make sense?

  • @PassionateSpirit88
    @PassionateSpirit88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me think....what about street striking?

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Won't be the difference between a left took landing to someone's chin in the street, cage, or ring? Just like a double lake takedown wouldJust like a double leg takedown would be The same in the street,Ring, or Mat.... But many techniques just don'tTransfer over

    • @brandonmorgan7667
      @brandonmorgan7667 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/ShczYuj7qno/w-d-xo.html Covered in this video

  • @josephs371
    @josephs371 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Stuff Thanks! Also, human bites are nasty! Lots of infection.

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they can, and it's always worse for the person getting bitten

    • @josephs371
      @josephs371 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL!

  • @MH-zg5yw
    @MH-zg5yw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not even knives anymore. You have to watch out for a gun. I knew a Bjj guy that tried to grapple a guy in a street fight. He fell on his back and tried to pull the guy into his guard. The guy's friend walked over and shot him while he was on his back.
    Too many people think they are going to have a UFC match on the street. That is nowhere near reality.

  • @greekpimp77
    @greekpimp77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a street fight, if he starts to bite your leg during an arm bar you pull up and put your foot?shoe in his face.

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be great if he starts biting your leg very slowly, but if he bit down like a pimple and took a Chunk of your calf muscle out, I've a feeling you would do nothing but let's go very quickly and yell

    • @harageilucid4352
      @harageilucid4352 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are yall talking about just break his fucking arm. While hes biting youre breaking! He couldnt stop you from breaking his arm when he had two of them now that hes only got one you can break everything else in revenge for that biting shit.

  • @BradYaeger
    @BradYaeger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put a magic marker in the hands of a smaller untrained person then wrestle with them as they try to make as many marks on you as possible. Dots or lines it doesn't matter. And thats when you already know they plan to do that . Hell a knife is unique in that it doesnt even need an operator to cut or stab you. You can fall on it or brush against it and it can still do you . It's the OG of weapons for a reason

    • @levedia
      @levedia ปีที่แล้ว

      Once I pulled a mark coleman or George st Pierre double leg takedown on my buddy who did aikido. He shoved his finger behind my ear on the bottom where a nerve is. I let go right away. It was a play fight but it taught me a lesson.

  • @TheSilence1
    @TheSilence1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why Judo throws start with gripping the wrists/elbows and discourage leg grabs. A samurai's main concern is always the opponent's blade.

  • @mikelroa8719
    @mikelroa8719 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If some one has you in an armbar, you beg for your arm. Biting him means losing your arm forever.

    • @ThePitOnlineDojo
      @ThePitOnlineDojo  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      biting gives you a fighting chance, at least, begging? You could say begging against any technique vs fighting is better

    • @mikelroa8719
      @mikelroa8719 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE PIT Online Dojo if i put some body in an armbar in a street fight, i want him to apologize and lose his ego, and promise he will back up when i release the lock.
      If he bites me, his arm is coming home with me as a trophy.

    • @aribailor3766
      @aribailor3766 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikelroa8719 it takes four horses pulling in different directions to tear of limbs, or maybe a mechanical rack and even that doesn't always work.. I don't care how much steroids you inject, you are not tearing off a limb...

    • @mikelroa8719
      @mikelroa8719 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aribailor3766 lol of course it is imposible to tear an arm off, but it can be broken.

    • @TheSubieFan
      @TheSubieFan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aribailor3766 go watch a broken bone/ dislocation video and understand what will happen if you get tangled up with me.

  • @keepgoing9837
    @keepgoing9837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    some things you say are nonsense no offense ...no way can you bite your way out in certain positions especially when you deal with someone who knows what he is doing .

  • @pamphlex
    @pamphlex 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Self defense bjj at its finest.

  • @Ross-z5j
    @Ross-z5j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe you should run more than you run your mouth

  • @lukacubrilo4317
    @lukacubrilo4317 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahahaahahah this is ridiculous. Bite his leg, yeah sure... ahahahahahaa

    • @rodssheetmetal2619
      @rodssheetmetal2619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude it fucking sucks. An adult bite is an indescribable kind of pain that makes you immediately want to get the fuck out.

  • @rontramontano6481
    @rontramontano6481 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You