The dark hold doesn’t amplify the users powers, it just corrupts their mind lol. Sooooo Wanda has always been more powerful than strange. Just not as knowledgeable
I agree. Plus strange couldn't take on Thanos by himself, but Wanda almost destroyed him single-handedly and that was before she even heard of the dark hold. It was before she even understood the potential of her power.
Wanda IS stronger than Strange actually, even without the dakrhold, darkhold only gave her spells for dreamwalking and made her insane. It's explained pretty clear in wandavision and this movie too, she's an entity that is supposed to either destroy or rule over the whole cosmos, her power skills are more diverse than Strange's, Strange has to do spells to do magic, Wanda's chaos magic allows her to alter reality, strange cannot do that.
@@umiayamlewis1114 Technically every character in the MCU is nerfed so...Both Wanda and Strange were. But I also dont think they had enough fights against each other to compare fairly. They fought for like a total of 30 seconds. Maybe if we had an actual fight we could have had a more accurate comparison. But we have to remember the MCU isnt the comics. In the MCU, Wanda can be more powerful than Strange but in the comics, he could more powerful than Wanda. It's just been pushed in interviews that Wanda is more powerful and even confirmed in the MCU itself in both WV and MoM
it’s not the fact that she’s stronger then him because she clearly is but doctor strange was extra weak in this movie he was supposed to be the sorcerer supreme and was trash the whole movie compared to his other appearances
I think it’s because she’s a woman 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t care what anyone says. Even on a subconscious level a lot of people will deny that a woman is better than a man in anything, even if she clearly is.
They literally watched Wandavision and heard agatha say her power exceeds that of the sorcerer Supreme,they've watched the movie before and heard strange say he's not in any position to fight wanda and yet STILL believe he's more powerful?😭men are so exhausting
You shouldn't generalize your idea about men though. These dudes belong to a type of people whose heads are as empty as their words and the mouths they come from. 😅
The reason why Wanda could kill CM was because she absorbed her cosmical energy. You can notice that when Wanda and CM starts spinning around, the latter is overpowering Wanda but eventually her energy starts to get absorbed by Wanda, erasing the cosmical energy that all Captain Marvels use as a kind of armor, thus killing her with a statue.
For some clarification on the Captain marvel death, during the fight Wanda actually absorbs her power which is why you can see her mask coming apart. And then Wanda expels her powers out into a blast thus the big explosion, and since she is powerless it makes her a easy target, but the movie didn't do a good job illustrating this.
Ah so that's was that was. I thought the implication was that Illuminati Captain Marvel got her powers from the Mask and that it getting broken meant she could actually be killed. Cool to know
The darkhold only gives spells and corrupt it's users, so Wanda's magic has always been stronger than Doctor Strange, which makes her incredibly dangerous with or without the darkhold.
Exactly. The Darkhold just provided Wanda the knowledge on new spells and how to strengthen her Chaos Magic. Everybody gets it mixed up. The Darkhold provides knowledge, not power. The reader has to study the knowledge they're given, otherwise the book does nothing for you.
If the Darkhold made someone stronger, Agatha would have been able to beat Wanda. But it actually weakens through corruption of mind and spirit, which will last longer and be harder to break free of.
The dark hold only gives spells. The scarlet witch it the most powerful character in the marvel comics. No one has beaten her. I have read most those comic books. She is the daughter of the scarlet warlock which she has chaos magic, which was around before the universe even existed. Not even the Phoenix can beat Wanda.
WandaVision episode 9: It’s written in the Darkhold that the Scarlet Witch is stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme. Strange was destined to be the next Sorcerer Supreme (and the strongest according to the Ancient One) but he got blipped, so Wong took his position. In other words, Wanda is more powerful than Strange.
@@PhoenixCent magic and witch craft can't work on ghost rider, so if ghost rider and Wanda fought, Wanda could only throw hands, all that magic stuff ain't gonna work on ghost rider 🔥💀
@@PhoenixCent that's the biggest cap. Stop simping FOR Wanda, she ain't gonna marry you. Ghost rider is immune to all magic. The only weakness is holy weapons. But guess what, Wanda ain't got no holy powers. Plus Ghost rider would destroy any demon. Ghost rider killed Satan and took over hell
Wanda is far more powerful than Strange, by raw power. He's magically smarter than her though. Chaos Magic is 1 of THE strongest MCU forms of magic. She was born with it and it was amplified from exposure to the Mind Stone while Strange's Eldritch Magic is drawn from other dimensions. Plus, his magic requires incantations while Chaos Magic can be executed by just a finger or hand twitch or by just a thought. Plus, Chaos Magic can warp and/or shatter reality, both universally and multiversally. Strange doesn't have that ability. Although, after having the Darkhold for a year, Wanda's magical intelligence isn't too far behind Strange's. The book gave her endless new spells to study and master and gave her the knowledge on how to strengthen and manipulate her Chaos Magic, so her magic IQ is nearly neck and neck with Strange's. Even Endgame Wanda was already more powerful than Strange. Her raw power and her magic's ties to her emotion makes her magic insanely wicked.
@@santinotravis5655 1st of all. Pause 2nd of all, Ghost rider is immune to any magic including chaos magic. So if him and Wanda actually fought.... She can only use her hands, which we know ghost rider got crazy super strength. So ye ghost rider wins easily 👈
They really think Strange is stronger than Wanda 💀 as if they didn’t hear in Wandavision that she almost killed Thanos and held back the version of him with 5 stones in infinity War ?
When we heard the voices of Billy and Tommy saying "Mommy, Help us" in the last episode of Wanda Vision, we thought that they were trapped in another Universe. They're actually asking Wanda to save them from Wanda/Scarlet Witch 616. Which is in the last part of MoM.
not them debating and affirming that flop strange is stronger than Wanda when it has been proven so many times that she is in fact stronger and more powerful than him and she can just erase him by saying "what strange"
It's so funny to see the middle boy in denial. The Darkhold didn't give Wanda power, only knowledge. She has chaos magic. He doesn't even know what he's saying. Chaos magic is the beginning of all magic that has existed since the beginning. of time, she drags Strange into all the universes, he doesn't even have a chance against her, they act as if they didn't hear in Wandavision tell Agatha a million-year-old prophecy where it says that the Scarlet Witch surpasses any supreme sorcerer, they even act like strange wasn't amplified by the time stone this is so funny
The darkhold is basically a study guide with all the answers in it for her to use. She herself has all the power and with the darkhold she’s learning how to use it. This is why people shouldn’t just jump on bandwagons and try to talk about stuff if they don’t know what is going on.
Patrick is tripping, Wanda is more powerful than Doctor Strange...she could fight off 5 stone Thanos with 1 hand while destroying the 6th stone, then she completely was overpowering the stronger full gauntlet Thanos without effort. Scarlet Witch was an amp to Wanda that was already more powerful than Doctor Strange. Which btw, Kevin Feige even said long before WandaVision that the most powerful character in the MCU was Wanda! Jerry just doesn't know, Scarlet Witch actually does handle Professor X that easily when her mind started to break. That's part of what lead to Avengers vs. X-Men, when Professor X could no longer even imagine containing Wanda's power anymore and she warped all of reality including the disappearance of Professor X...after he decided that Wanda had to be killed.
All powerfull things wanda did 1. Create the hex 2. Almost killed thanos 3.destroying the TIME STONE while holding back thanos IN DS MOM 4. deafeting the illuminate so quick even whitout her full strength because she was dream walking 5.deafeting an army of wizards in kamar taj 6. Destroyed all of the darkholds in every universe.
Yeah that’s been happening constantly to my boy Evan. Rob always picks on him the most out of the group and it’s very annoying. Wouldn’t be surprised if one day Evan just snaps on Rob honestly lol
@@kjiggidy5719 Rob did that with Patrick for a while too. Honestly i don't see how they put up with Rob as friend. I would have been pulled the it's me or him card because does too much. One or two jabs your human but he literally made a jab every time Evan open his mouth basically saying to him "you're not allowed to talk'. It super childish and it ruins the reaction for me.
Captain marvels powers were absorbed into an energy blast that almost killed CM. Taking away her energy, power and fight. Hence why she was not glowing after the blast. The statue was what finished her off.
lol, Wanda is FAR more powerful and stronger than Stephen Strange. He even admitted in the movie that he can't fight Wanda because he won't win. Base Wanda is realty warping, base Strange can't never do that And the Darkhold never gave Wanda a power boost, the spells in the book only taught Wanda how to use her magic
The guy in the middle is so bitter. He wants strange to be stronger than wanda so bad. He even said that he is physically stronger like that matters when they both have magic. What are they gonna do fist fight💀💀💀. Also if he was paying attention ever he would know the darkhold doesn't give you power only knowledge. This is all her power!
Wanda didn't die, folks! She is going to to return next year in Agatha House of Harkness and have her own solo movie, The Scarlet Witch. She is now in the top 3 most popular alive MCU characters right now. She is the primordial key character to the upcoming Phases of the MCU.
So there are a few things that they kind of got wrong. Wanda is more powerful than strange. He’s just more experienced with his power. And there’s a difference between Wanda and Scarlett witch but the power doesn’t change. Also, Scarlett witch is doing all this while controlling that universes Wanda.
Although I like Scarlet witch a lot she really had so many advantages however she held back at the same time. Same goes for strange as he refrained from using techniques that would’ve hurt the other universe wanda as mcu Wanda was using her. Mcu Wanda gave strange many chances to just walk away as she instantly took out anyone who came her way. She’s way more powerful as she has better control of her powers as she siphoned Agatha’s power and got a huge boost from the dark hold. I think had strange gotten a hold of the book of vishanti which is the opposite of it he would’ve pushed her back but not to the point of killing her. That third eye is a peak of what’s to come for him as he has so much potential while being a prodigy at the same time. That prophecy or saying of him being a danger isn’t exactly an exaggeration as we’ve all see what if and what a variant of him is capable of
also the darkhold just makes u insane and gives u a few spells with knowledge if wanda has always been more powerful than him if she read the exact same books as strange did in the sanctum she would still beat him
the darkhold was never addressed as a source of power or amp. it’s only a book of knowledge that corrupts it’s readers. idk why y’all are so in denial that she’s stronger 😭
Even if wanda absorbed captain marvel power she still have the kree blood in her so a statue cannot kill her unless this version don't have Kree DNA in her then is make sense otherwise it make no sense at all.
12:53 The Scarlet Witch is not a person, but a being, while Stephen Strange is not. Stephen needs to cast spells and do handmotions to make things happen while The Scarlet Witch does not, if she thinks it, it can happen. Reality is of her choosing. "The Scarlet witch is not born, she is forged. She had no coven, no need for incantation." She was literally created by the first demon to ever exist eons ago, as a vessel for him to take over the -616 universe. You simply cannot compare Strange to her, let alone think he's more powerful than her. He's just an average human man who studied the mystic arts, but she's a being destined to rule the universe.
Yall are antis wanda ?? Since when did she struggle against captain marvel ? And she litteraly absorbed her power. So its norma she died. And the statue who killed her is made by a special material. Wanda with the darkhold is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange So without, he is still not stronger than the scarlet witch for the moment. Strange with the agamoto eye on his head yea...
People really need to stop confusing being amped and getting better at something. The darkhold is just a spell book it taught her how to use her magic more effectively and skillfully in terms of magical combat, it didn't give her any extra power wanda was always that powerful.
Battling with captain marvel was actually foreshadow of her power she was controling her variant which made her weak and her variant also had less power so she was fighting illuminati with 25% of her actual power. Maria died because she absorbed her power while spinning (you can see if you put your mind to it one of the proof was when marias powers exploded)
So many people interpret that the dreams that the MCU characters have that they’re bridging on other realities they’re looking at other versions of them selves when they dream like how Tony Stark was so adamant about Naming his and Pepper’s child Morgan because he saw it in a dream it was so beautiful that he wanted that for himself when he woke up and that’s why his daughters name is Morgan
Remember in WandaVision Agatha told Wanda that she was more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme. The Dakrhold only corrupted her mind and gave some new spells like dream walking. It didn’t amplify her powers
I mean, the Scarlet Witch is a literal magical being and Doctor Strange is strong but his just a human who knows Magic. It's no brainer who's stronger.
@@biteass953 not even close my boi💀 she uses chaos magic and witch craft. And Ghost rider is immune to all magic including chaos magic. If they ever fought, Wanda could only use her hands since her powers are gonna be useless against Ghost Rider 👈 Ghost Rider on Top 👑😂
The reason they didn’t take Wanda seriously is because only one scarlet witch exist and they literally don’t trust strange cause of the things he did in their universe also to mention they just would have killed an innocent Wanda that being possessed and the real one would still be alive.
Wanda actually siphoned/absorbed Captain Marvel’s powers temporarily when she was fighting her, draining her which in turn made her way less durable that the statue would kill her. The movie’s producer said it last week.
Chaos magic been around before the universe existed and the scarlet witch possessed chaos. The most power form of magic. Capital marvel Nor the phoenix can beat Wanda. I remember in the comics, the phoenix tried to enter Wanda. Wanda fought it off without even a struggling.
31:35 yep. She’s Dormmamu’s niece Clea. This’ll be a tougher since strange no longer has the time stone to help him however it will be good to see him fight Dormmamu with his own raw power
Bros in the middle in denial ☠️ Wanda killed the illuminati in a weaker version of herself strange was amped and still lost the darkhold only gave Wanda spells and knowledge not power she would still body lmao
You can think he’s stronger all you want, but he’s not shes stronger then him by miles! Plus the dark hold corrupts you it doesn’t make you stronger ..
I am APPALLED that you guys really said strange is stronger than wanda.. without the dark hold, she held back 4 infinity stones + one of the strongest villians they faced, while also destroying a infinity stone & having a mental break down! WANDA LITEALLY MADE A WHOLE REALITY THAT SHE CONTROLLED. In endgame she was so close to killing thanos before he rained fire which strange nor a group of yall favorite avengers couldn't do. so... how do strange even come close
Something they should've used way more of in this movie is eye glowing! It would've shown Wanda's lack of control and rage from the darkhold so much clearer. And when shes fighting Captain Marvel and they're spinning she's actually absorbing Her power and releases it to cause that explosion thats why shes able to be crushed and die like that.
In the comics the scarlet witch was never meant to have kids she was literally infertile, cause it is too dangerous for the universe and her kids were able to bring total destruction. I think they followed that storyline
@@Mario_Real_Talk really? i thought scarlet warlock is another scarlet witch in the past and not related to wanda and her mother the one who the scarlet witch (wanda n pietro past is really confusing bcs marvel tried to change their story)
The darkhold doesn’t give power, only knowledge. The Scarlet Witch (Not endgame Wanda) was always this powerful and she’s destined to rule or destroy the cosmos. If she were to return she’ll become more and more powerful. Untill she finishes her destiny.
During that whole wedding scene the only song that kept popping up in my head was Lil Dicky song Molly that's best way to describe Dr Strange right about now
these people have no idea who Scarlet Witch is, saying that she would struggle with those characters is insane, they are leagues below her. She could have obliterated them all in a heartbeat if she chooses.
The logic that the darkhold was the only reason she won against strange is kinda stupid because if the darkhold does amplify her powers then how did strange beat his variant with the darkhold
The mask that captain marvel had on helped control her power so when Wanda destroyed it captain marvel didn’t have her powers anymore. Also the only reason reed told wanda that blackbolt could destroy her with one whisper from his mouth is because they seriously underestimated her. I like how the directors even told us that the fight with the Illuminati wanda was nerfed.
@@mowgli6345 they literally said “oh we can handle your little witch” is that not the same as underestimating? They were cocky and that’s what got them killed. Cope
So the reason Wanda is able to do all this is because she got her reality warping powers from cthon who was to use her as a vessel and the mountain they went to in the end is the one he’s trapped in in the comics.
a lot of you don't really get and understand the death of capt. marvel as y'all can see wanda took/absorbed capt. marvel's power for i guess temporarily and that statue really killed her because she's powerless she don't have the strength to take that huge statue.periodt
ik everyone has their opinions but wanda is stronger than strange. comics and mcu wise. the dark hold doesn’t give u more power it just gives u knowledge.
What is confusing is is that if this movie is supposed to take place in fall of 2024 as many producers have stated and Spiderman ends Christmas the timeline is messed up Erick Viss pointed this out the other day
I also agree Wanda has telepathy but Xavier is a way more powerful skill telepath than Wanda with multiple abilities that he stems from with it. She maybe more powerful than him overall but not in telepathy it should have been a more of a struggle battle for Wanda fighting in the mind with Xavier.
That mind is not the 616-Wanda (Scarlet Witch) but to 838-Wanda. Xavier is just focusing to 838-Wanda to help her free herself so Scarlet Witch will be back to her own consciousness. Since Xavier can't read Scarlet Witch's mind bcs shes in another universe, she was able to think a way to beat him.
@@brianpeppersskincarechanne1830I get they wanted to show Scarlet OPness but still put more respect on the Superior Mental Skilled Vet Xavier..no matter which Earth Xavier
Wanda only struggled fighting captain marvel because she was dreamwalking. If she was in her actual body she would of killed the illuminati 10x faster than she did
29:28. A zombie version with creatures that can resist chaos magic lmao The fact that strange controlled a dead strange doesnt mean the boost is weaker.
25:16 Nope, If they run they might get caught off guard by Wanda since Wanda is not making a move and they don't know when she's gonna attack, so they're preparing for a counter attack and as u can see Strange takes seconds to cast his magic so if they keep running Strange will not have enough time for a counter attack and also for them to dogde Wanda's powers, I mean they can probably dodge her projectile but the blast/impact? I don't think so. And one more thing did u see how Wanda vaporize that wizard😂 on kamar? Exactly that would happen if they ever try to run
Wanda is more powerful than strange. The dark hold only corrupted her, it didn’t give her powers. She was able to reach and know her full potential with it.
Captain Marvel is only durable thanks to her cosmic power. Look at what happened, she was hit with a giant flying thing and crushed into a wall while she had cosmic energy flowing around her. Wanda stripped her of that and then crushed her.
The thing about Captain Marvel and why that killed her was Wanda took all of her powers which is why she stopped glowing and she barely had on any Armor so at the point when the statue was dropped on her she was just a normal ass person and trust you try to take a ten ton statue to the body without powers you’d die too. 😭😭
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The dark hold doesn’t amplify the users powers, it just corrupts their mind lol. Sooooo Wanda has always been more powerful than strange. Just not as knowledgeable
I agree. Plus strange couldn't take on Thanos by himself, but Wanda almost destroyed him single-handedly and that was before she even heard of the dark hold. It was before she even understood the potential of her power.
@@msdanielle2005 well tbf, strange fought thanks when he already had 3 stones and arguably the most powerful ones too.
i think she became more powerful in WandaVision when she unlocked her true potential, she hasn’t always been stronger
@@chris3928 And Wanda held him back one-handed when he had all but one stone, so what's your point? :D
They also said in wandavision that Wanda was stronger than the sorcerer supreme too.
Wanda IS stronger than Strange actually, even without the dakrhold, darkhold only gave her spells for dreamwalking and made her insane. It's explained pretty clear in wandavision and this movie too, she's an entity that is supposed to either destroy or rule over the whole cosmos, her power skills are more diverse than Strange's, Strange has to do spells to do magic, Wanda's chaos magic allows her to alter reality, strange cannot do that.
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but they nerf strange due how strong he really lets be honest
@@umiayamlewis1114 Technically every character in the MCU is nerfed so...Both Wanda and Strange were. But I also dont think they had enough fights against each other to compare fairly. They fought for like a total of 30 seconds. Maybe if we had an actual fight we could have had a more accurate comparison. But we have to remember the MCU isnt the comics. In the MCU, Wanda can be more powerful than Strange but in the comics, he could more powerful than Wanda. It's just been pushed in interviews that Wanda is more powerful and even confirmed in the MCU itself in both WV and MoM
It's so funny how people still try to deny the fact that she is stronger than Strange LMAO she dragged him three times in this movie
She dragged their faves😍
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it’s not the fact that she’s stronger then him because she clearly is but doctor strange was extra weak in this movie he was supposed to be the sorcerer supreme and was trash the whole movie compared to his other appearances
@@crazypenguin9212 he wasnt, Wong was/is the sorcerer supreme
I think it’s because she’s a woman 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t care what anyone says. Even on a subconscious level a lot of people will deny that a woman is better than a man in anything, even if she clearly is.
They literally watched Wandavision and heard agatha say her power exceeds that of the sorcerer Supreme,they've watched the movie before and heard strange say he's not in any position to fight wanda and yet STILL believe he's more powerful?😭men are so exhausting
You shouldn't generalize your idea about men though. These dudes belong to a type of people whose heads are as empty as their words and the mouths they come from. 😅
The reason why Wanda could kill CM was because she absorbed her cosmical energy. You can notice that when Wanda and CM starts spinning around, the latter is overpowering Wanda but eventually her energy starts to get absorbed by Wanda, erasing the cosmical energy that all Captain Marvels use as a kind of armor, thus killing her with a statue.
Facts, they literally described the Scarlet Witch as a being that can covet others power/magic for their own, like how she did Agatha
Either way wnada killed cm
I’m glad someone finally bought my attention to this
For some clarification on the Captain marvel death, during the fight Wanda actually absorbs her power which is why you can see her mask coming apart. And then Wanda expels her powers out into a blast thus the big explosion, and since she is powerless it makes her a easy target, but the movie didn't do a good job illustrating this.
tbf, the movie didn't show Captain Marvel dying either. As far we know, she was just knocked out.
@@yannym4605 Considering the others were murdered in some shape or form, it's heavily unlikely she survived
There was a clear 2-3 seconds of Cap Marvel's armor slowly peeling away, and Wanda using her absorbed Photon Blast against her.
Ah so that's was that was. I thought the implication was that Illuminati Captain Marvel got her powers from the Mask and that it getting broken meant she could actually be killed. Cool to know
why does her mask come off when she absorb her power? does she need her powers to use the suit or something?
The darkhold only gives spells and corrupt it's users, so Wanda's magic has always been stronger than Doctor Strange, which makes her incredibly dangerous with or without the darkhold.
Exactly. The Darkhold just provided Wanda the knowledge on new spells and how to strengthen her Chaos Magic. Everybody gets it mixed up. The Darkhold provides knowledge, not power. The reader has to study the knowledge they're given, otherwise the book does nothing for you.
Yeap, dr. strange even said that wanda is strongest magic wielder on the planet
@@xiamariansupreme72 SLAY
If the Darkhold made someone stronger, Agatha would have been able to beat Wanda. But it actually weakens through corruption of mind and spirit, which will last longer and be harder to break free of.
The dark hold only gives spells. The scarlet witch it the most powerful character in the marvel comics. No one has beaten her. I have read most those comic books. She is the daughter of the scarlet warlock which she has chaos magic, which was around before the universe even existed. Not even the Phoenix can beat Wanda.
WandaVision episode 9: It’s written in the Darkhold that the Scarlet Witch is stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme. Strange was destined to be the next Sorcerer Supreme (and the strongest according to the Ancient One) but he got blipped, so Wong took his position. In other words, Wanda is more powerful than Strange.
Wanda had all this power even without the darkhold.
Yep and she still gonna get solo'd by ghost rider
@@fordastreeets8019 ghost rider getting packed up💀💀
@@PhoenixCent magic and witch craft can't work on ghost rider, so if ghost rider and Wanda fought, Wanda could only throw hands, all that magic stuff ain't gonna work on ghost rider 🔥💀
@@fordastreeets8019 that was contradicted… ghost rider got killed by a demon made of chaos magic/dark magic
@@PhoenixCent that's the biggest cap. Stop simping FOR Wanda, she ain't gonna marry you. Ghost rider is immune to all magic. The only weakness is holy weapons. But guess what, Wanda ain't got no holy powers. Plus Ghost rider would destroy any demon. Ghost rider killed Satan and took over hell
Wanda is far more powerful than Strange, by raw power. He's magically smarter than her though. Chaos Magic is 1 of THE strongest MCU forms of magic. She was born with it and it was amplified from exposure to the Mind Stone while Strange's Eldritch Magic is drawn from other dimensions. Plus, his magic requires incantations while Chaos Magic can be executed by just a finger or hand twitch or by just a thought. Plus, Chaos Magic can warp and/or shatter reality, both universally and multiversally. Strange doesn't have that ability. Although, after having the Darkhold for a year, Wanda's magical intelligence isn't too far behind Strange's. The book gave her endless new spells to study and master and gave her the knowledge on how to strengthen and manipulate her Chaos Magic, so her magic IQ is nearly neck and neck with Strange's. Even Endgame Wanda was already more powerful than Strange. Her raw power and her magic's ties to her emotion makes her magic insanely wicked.
Dark hold or not, she still gonna lose to Ghost Rider
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Who TF cares about Ghost Rider? Is he in the MCI? No. Is he in the movie? No. So, shut up. 🙄
@@fordastreeets8019 oh hell nah, ghost rider gonna get clapped
@@santinotravis5655 1st of all. Pause
2nd of all, Ghost rider is immune to any magic including chaos magic. So if him and Wanda actually fought.... She can only use her hands, which we know ghost rider got crazy super strength. So ye ghost rider wins easily 👈
@@fordastreeets8019 wrong
They really think Strange is stronger than Wanda 💀 as if they didn’t hear in Wandavision that she almost killed Thanos and held back the version of him with 5 stones in infinity War ?
Wanda is stronger than strange with and without the darkhold it’s a spell book lmao the darkhold don’t give her chaos magic nor reality warping
Ghost rider will humble wanda
@@fordastreeets8019 who tf taking about ghost rider it’s the fact you have to bring up overpowered character ghost rider solos the mcu lmao
@@infamouslight7172 oh shoot I replied to the wrong comment 😂 mb but ye I'm with Ghost rider 👈
Scarlet Witch not stronger but Powerful than Strange..
@@douglasaldrinoneandonly5437 wym not stronger lmao strange don’t have any physical strength she’s stronger his hands don’t even work 😂
The Darkhold doesn’t amplify her powers, he only give her knowledge.
When we heard the voices of Billy and Tommy saying "Mommy, Help us" in the last episode of Wanda Vision, we thought that they were trapped in another Universe. They're actually asking Wanda to save them from Wanda/Scarlet Witch 616. Which is in the last part of MoM.
Ever since end game they’ve gotten so good at doing these different universe sets. I like how it looks so practical.
Wanda is literally stronger than strange, the Darkhold doesn’t amplify anyone’s powers, it’s just knowledge
not them debating and affirming that flop strange is stronger than Wanda when it has been proven so many times that she is in fact stronger and more powerful than him and she can just erase him by saying "what strange"
It's so funny to see the middle boy in denial. The Darkhold didn't give Wanda power, only knowledge. She has chaos magic. He doesn't even know what he's saying. Chaos magic is the beginning of all magic that has existed since the beginning. of time, she drags Strange into all the universes, he doesn't even have a chance against her, they act as if they didn't hear in Wandavision tell Agatha a million-year-old prophecy where it says that the Scarlet Witch surpasses any supreme sorcerer, they even act like strange wasn't amplified by the time stone this is so funny
Seeing this on the opening day in theatres has been one hell of an experience, and hearing the audience reaction was lit.
This movie was a C at best
@@losjay940 marvel movies are so good when you don't got a nigga in yo ear telling you its ass
@@frosty37 W comment but all superhero/blockbuster movies are pretty shit these days
@@frosty37 bro, marvel is trash, what are you talking about? 🤨
@@incognito8907 gotta be bait
The darkhold is basically a study guide with all the answers in it for her to use. She herself has all the power and with the darkhold she’s learning how to use it. This is why people shouldn’t just jump on bandwagons and try to talk about stuff if they don’t know what is going on.
Patrick is tripping, Wanda is more powerful than Doctor Strange...she could fight off 5 stone Thanos with 1 hand while destroying the 6th stone, then she completely was overpowering the stronger full gauntlet Thanos without effort. Scarlet Witch was an amp to Wanda that was already more powerful than Doctor Strange. Which btw, Kevin Feige even said long before WandaVision that the most powerful character in the MCU was Wanda!
Jerry just doesn't know, Scarlet Witch actually does handle Professor X that easily when her mind started to break. That's part of what lead to Avengers vs. X-Men, when Professor X could no longer even imagine containing Wanda's power anymore and she warped all of reality including the disappearance of Professor X...after he decided that Wanda had to be killed.
The part about Kevin Fiege I don’t believe cause I could’ve sworn he said Captain Marvel was the most powerful.
Wanda is more powerful than Strange, just not as knowledgeable. Remember Wanda did most of this in an "dream walk" state while being reasonable.
Ghost rider will humble wanda
@@fordastreeets8019 why you bring him?
All powerfull things wanda did
1. Create the hex
2. Almost killed thanos
3.destroying the TIME STONE while holding back thanos
IN DS MOM
4. deafeting the illuminate so quick even whitout her full strength because she was dream walking
5.deafeting an army of wizards in kamar taj
6. Destroyed all of the darkholds in every universe.
for the captain marvel fight the writers confirmed wanda absorbed her power which explains why she died that easily to a building
26:27 Good to see Evan stand up for himself, kinda fucked up how robbie uses him as a punching bag constantly.
Yeah that’s been happening constantly to my boy Evan. Rob always picks on him the most out of the group and it’s very annoying. Wouldn’t be surprised if one day Evan just snaps on Rob honestly lol
@@kjiggidy5719 Rob did that with Patrick for a while too. Honestly i don't see how they put up with Rob as friend. I would have been pulled the it's me or him card because does too much. One or two jabs your human but he literally made a jab every time Evan open his mouth basically saying to him "you're not allowed to talk'. It super childish and it ruins the reaction for me.
Nah. He been beefing with homie in the grey for no reason 😂
Captain marvels powers were absorbed into an energy blast that almost killed CM. Taking away her energy, power and fight. Hence why she was not glowing after the blast. The statue was what finished her off.
lol, Wanda is FAR more powerful and stronger than Stephen Strange. He even admitted in the movie that he can't fight Wanda because he won't win. Base Wanda is realty warping, base Strange can't never do that
And the Darkhold never gave Wanda a power boost, the spells in the book only taught Wanda how to use her magic
The guy in the middle is so bitter. He wants strange to be stronger than wanda so bad. He even said that he is physically stronger like that matters when they both have magic. What are they gonna do fist fight💀💀💀. Also if he was paying attention ever he would know the darkhold doesn't give you power only knowledge. This is all her power!
Wanda didn't die, folks! She is going to to return next year in Agatha House of Harkness and have her own solo movie, The Scarlet Witch. She is now in the top 3 most popular alive MCU characters right now. She is the primordial key character to the upcoming Phases of the MCU.
So there are a few things that they kind of got wrong. Wanda is more powerful than strange. He’s just more experienced with his power. And there’s a difference between Wanda and Scarlett witch but the power doesn’t change. Also, Scarlett witch is doing all this while controlling that universes Wanda.
Although I like Scarlet witch a lot she really had so many advantages however she held back at the same time. Same goes for strange as he refrained from using techniques that would’ve hurt the other universe wanda as mcu Wanda was using her. Mcu Wanda gave strange many chances to just walk away as she instantly took out anyone who came her way. She’s way more powerful as she has better control of her powers as she siphoned Agatha’s power and got a huge boost from the dark hold. I think had strange gotten a hold of the book of vishanti which is the opposite of it he would’ve pushed her back but not to the point of killing her. That third eye is a peak of what’s to come for him as he has so much potential while being a prodigy at the same time. That prophecy or saying of him being a danger isn’t exactly an exaggeration as we’ve all see what if and what a variant of him is capable of
The dark hold didn’t boost anything. Wanda already had that power, it was just a book of spells that corrupted her mind.
The dark hold gives her spells
also the darkhold just makes u insane and gives u a few spells with knowledge if wanda has always been more powerful than him if she read the exact same books as strange did in the sanctum she would still beat him
the darkhold was never addressed as a source of power or amp. it’s only a book of knowledge that corrupts it’s readers. idk why y’all are so in denial that she’s stronger 😭
Wanda absorbed captain marvels powers if u notice her mask was breaking off..that's why the statue killed her
Nice, you right
Even if wanda absorbed captain marvel power she still have the kree blood in her so a statue cannot kill her unless this version don't have Kree DNA in her then is make sense otherwise it make no sense at all.
@@duykhanhcloud6866 maybe this version don't have any.
@@rashadwalker8218 yeah i think so too.
That's just a excuse
12:53 The Scarlet Witch is not a person, but a being, while Stephen Strange is not.
Stephen needs to cast spells and do handmotions to make things happen while The Scarlet Witch does not, if she thinks it, it can happen. Reality is of her choosing.
"The Scarlet witch is not born, she is forged. She had no coven, no need for incantation."
She was literally created by the first demon to ever exist eons ago, as a vessel for him to take over the -616 universe. You simply cannot compare Strange to her, let alone think he's more powerful than her. He's just an average human man who studied the mystic arts, but she's a being destined to rule the universe.
its so funny cuz people denying that strange is much more powerful when he got clapped in 2 clashes..
Yall are antis wanda ?? Since when did she struggle against captain marvel ? And she litteraly absorbed her power. So its norma she died. And the statue who killed her is made by a special material.
Wanda with the darkhold is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange
So without, he is still not stronger than the scarlet witch for the moment.
Strange with the agamoto eye on his head yea...
People really need to stop confusing being amped and getting better at something. The darkhold is just a spell book it taught her how to use her magic more effectively and skillfully in terms of magical combat, it didn't give her any extra power wanda was always that powerful.
Battling with captain marvel was actually foreshadow of her power she was controling her variant which made her weak and her variant also had less power so she was fighting illuminati with 25% of her actual power. Maria died because she absorbed her power while spinning (you can see if you put your mind to it one of the proof was when marias powers exploded)
Dr strange used to play the piano that’s why the musical note fight was significant
So many people interpret that the dreams that the MCU characters have that they’re bridging on other realities they’re looking at other versions of them selves when they dream like how Tony Stark was so adamant about Naming his and Pepper’s child Morgan because he saw it in a dream it was so beautiful that he wanted that for himself when he woke up and that’s why his daughters name is Morgan
Awesome, now I'm crying 😭
Remember in WandaVision Agatha told Wanda that she was more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme. The Dakrhold only corrupted her mind and gave some new spells like dream walking. It didn’t amplify her powers
I mean, the Scarlet Witch is a literal magical being and Doctor Strange is strong but his just a human who knows Magic. It's no brainer who's stronger.
Wanda is wayyy stronger than Strange. Her chaos magic literally changes reality. Read the synopsis of House of M in the comics.
I wouldn’t say wayyy stronger lol
@@reyabeckett4786 she is tbh strange is not even up there in power
No darkhold didn’t give any powers it only gave her the knowledge so with or without the darkhold SHE IS still stronger than doctor strange.
she basically turned CM into a regular human that’s how she got crushed
Dark hold didn't power her up lol. It just taught her the spell the powers and reality-warping is her
dark hold or not, she still gonna lose to Ghost Rider
@@fordastreeets8019 she solos him
@@biteass953 not even close my boi💀 she uses chaos magic and witch craft. And Ghost rider is immune to all magic including chaos magic. If they ever fought, Wanda could only use her hands since her powers are gonna be useless against Ghost Rider 👈 Ghost Rider on Top 👑😂
@@fordastreeets8019 wanda uses life force and hela defeated ghost rider her darkhold Omega Version slams ghost rider
The reason they didn’t take Wanda seriously is because only one scarlet witch exist and they literally don’t trust strange cause of the things he did in their universe also to mention they just would have killed an innocent Wanda that being possessed and the real one would still be alive.
Wanda actually siphoned/absorbed Captain Marvel’s powers temporarily when she was fighting her, draining her which in turn made her way less durable that the statue would kill her. The movie’s producer said it last week.
Chaos magic been around before the universe existed and the scarlet witch possessed chaos. The most power form of magic. Capital marvel Nor the phoenix can beat Wanda. I remember in the comics, the phoenix tried to enter Wanda. Wanda fought it off without even a struggling.
31:35 yep. She’s Dormmamu’s niece Clea. This’ll be a tougher since strange no longer has the time stone to help him however it will be good to see him fight Dormmamu with his own raw power
Bros in the middle in denial ☠️ Wanda killed the illuminati in a weaker version of herself strange was amped and still lost the darkhold only gave Wanda spells and knowledge not power she would still body lmao
Right LMFAOOOO
And all she really needed it for was to dreamwalk
And summoning
Idky y’all can’t process the fact that the darkhold doesn’t buff her powers..and strange is NOT stronger then her base, FACTUAL
How are yall saying its not that simple when a WEAKER version of herself killed him negative diff 💀
Wanda is literally stronger than strange. How can you watch a movie where he dont come close to beating her, and still say he stronger .. beyond me
You can think he’s stronger all you want, but he’s not shes stronger then him by miles! Plus the dark hold corrupts you it doesn’t make you stronger ..
Wanda absorbed Captain Marvel energy making her vulnerable.
I am APPALLED that you guys really said strange is stronger than wanda.. without the dark hold, she held back 4 infinity stones + one of the strongest villians they faced, while also destroying a infinity stone & having a mental break down! WANDA LITEALLY MADE A WHOLE REALITY THAT SHE CONTROLLED. In endgame she was so close to killing thanos before he rained fire which strange nor a group of yall favorite avengers couldn't do. so... how do strange even come close
They said the eye on that monster is based off scarlet witch actual eye
29:49 lol 😂 so pissed off cuz wanda did your dr strange dirty? hahaha
@6:01 Wong was fighting like Trevor Belmont with that whip
Something they should've used way more of in this movie is eye glowing! It would've shown Wanda's lack of control and rage from the darkhold so much clearer.
And when shes fighting Captain Marvel and they're spinning she's actually absorbing Her power and releases it to cause that explosion thats why shes able to be crushed and die like that.
In the comics the scarlet witch was never meant to have kids she was literally infertile, cause it is too dangerous for the universe and her kids were able to bring total destruction. I think they followed that storyline
isnt wanda real mom is another scarlet witch?
@@rafaelrose14 they mentioned her father which was the scarlet warlock
@@Mario_Real_Talk really? i thought scarlet warlock is another scarlet witch in the past and not related to wanda and her mother the one who the scarlet witch (wanda n pietro past is really confusing bcs marvel tried to change their story)
Why yall so mad???? Cause she high diffed the whole cast😭
Y’all funny if y’all really think doctor strange is more powerful than Wanda 😂😂😂
The darkhold doesn’t give power, only knowledge. The Scarlet Witch (Not endgame Wanda) was always this powerful and she’s destined to rule or destroy the cosmos.
If she were to return she’ll become more and more powerful. Untill she finishes her destiny.
During that whole wedding scene the only song that kept popping up in my head was Lil Dicky song Molly that's best way to describe Dr Strange right about now
Wanda: You Can't Defeat Me!
Strange: No I Know But They Can
We LİkE IcE CreAm
Glad you’re reacting to this movie, Wanda is fr the most powerful character in the Marvel universe.
@Crimson Horror That's what they said?? Don't even remember that. Thrash!
Wanda is the not the most character in marvel universe.There a number just as powerful or more powerful then her.
@UCgFUOLyjrIksKDXCJMPVX-g They don’t mean literally the most powerful. She certainly is the most powerful Avenger, if you’d even count her anymore.
@Jalil Muhammad Name 10 people in Marvel that are stronger than her.
got bodied by hawkeye in age of ultron lol
Definitely watch in IMAX enhanced next time! Even though they’re known for the big screen the IMAX version is better, period.
these people have no idea who Scarlet Witch is, saying that she would struggle with those characters is insane, they are leagues below her. She could have obliterated them all in a heartbeat if she chooses.
The logic that the darkhold was the only reason she won against strange is kinda stupid because if the darkhold does amplify her powers then how did strange beat his variant with the darkhold
Guys we need a return of Patrick’s fashion vids where he makes new drip
The mask that captain marvel had on helped control her power so when Wanda destroyed it captain marvel didn’t have her powers anymore. Also the only reason reed told wanda that blackbolt could destroy her with one whisper from his mouth is because they seriously underestimated her. I like how the directors even told us that the fight with the Illuminati wanda was nerfed.
Exactly
Smartest man in the universe underestimated Wanda. Yeah okay.
@@mowgli6345 they literally said “oh we can handle your little witch” is that not the same as underestimating? They were cocky and that’s what got them killed. Cope
@@babyfoxpog7977 It's lazy writing is what it is. Cope. MCU trash.
@@mowgli6345 You know that it doesn't matter, right? Wanda is literally a telepath..
So the reason Wanda is able to do all this is because she got her reality warping powers from cthon who was to use her as a vessel and the mountain they went to in the end is the one he’s trapped in in the comics.
The dark hold is her power,in the comics that's where her power originates its just that the dark hold activates in a sort of way.
I always wondered how would the doc be if he had access to extra unknown power wooooo
a lot of you don't really get and understand the death of capt. marvel as y'all can see wanda took/absorbed capt. marvel's power for i guess temporarily and that statue really killed her because she's powerless she don't have the strength to take that huge statue.periodt
ik everyone has their opinions but wanda is stronger than strange. comics and mcu wise. the dark hold doesn’t give u more power it just gives u knowledge.
What is confusing is is that if this movie is supposed to take place in fall of 2024 as many producers have stated and Spiderman ends Christmas the timeline is messed up Erick Viss pointed this out the other day
I also agree Wanda has telepathy but Xavier is a way more powerful skill telepath than Wanda with multiple abilities that he stems from with it. She maybe more powerful than him overall but not in telepathy it should have been a more of a struggle battle for Wanda fighting in the mind with Xavier.
I feel like it’s because he wasn’t in the main Wanda’s mind and she technically not in the battle with him
That mind is not the 616-Wanda (Scarlet Witch) but to 838-Wanda. Xavier is just focusing to 838-Wanda to help her free herself so Scarlet Witch will be back to her own consciousness. Since Xavier can't read Scarlet Witch's mind bcs shes in another universe, she was able to think a way to beat him.
I agree, battle shouldve last longer like him & Phoenix battle in X3..should've took Wanda longer to kill him atleast
@@2KILLAVILLE but he wasn’t in the mind of 616 but of 836
@@brianpeppersskincarechanne1830I get they wanted to show Scarlet OPness but still put more respect on the Superior Mental Skilled Vet Xavier..no matter which Earth Xavier
Wanda only struggled fighting captain marvel because she was dreamwalking. If she was in her actual body she would of killed the illuminati 10x faster than she did
Why rob on Evan’s meat all the damn time 🤦🏽♂️😭
because he is super petty, he did it to Pat for a while too
What’s up with rob always saying evans name on something lol
everything everywhere all at once the real multiverse !!!
Y’all need to do research to be watching these movies y’all can’t except the fact that wanda dogs strange anytime
29:28. A zombie version with creatures that can resist chaos magic lmao
The fact that strange controlled a dead strange doesnt mean the boost is weaker.
Lol they think dr strange is stronger then her 😂😂
25:16 Nope, If they run they might get caught off guard by Wanda since Wanda is not making a move and they don't know when she's gonna attack, so they're preparing for a counter attack and as u can see Strange takes seconds to cast his magic so if they keep running Strange will not have enough time for a counter attack and also for them to dogde Wanda's powers, I mean they can probably dodge her projectile but the blast/impact? I don't think so. And one more thing did u see how Wanda vaporize that wizard😂 on kamar? Exactly that would happen if they ever try to run
Wanda is more powerful than strange. The dark hold only corrupted her, it didn’t give her powers. She was able to reach and know her full potential with it.
Wanda is stronger, the dark hold just corrupts her mind. But her powers are amplified by her emotions.
After watchin it for myself, it's a good movie. Not great but good. Smooth 7/10
23:18 whenever she killed Captain Marvel she took her powers away beforehand
my right hear is pleased with this reaction
Captain Marvel is only durable thanks to her cosmic power. Look at what happened, she was hit with a giant flying thing and crushed into a wall while she had cosmic energy flowing around her. Wanda stripped her of that and then crushed her.
The thing about Captain Marvel and why that killed her was Wanda took all of her powers which is why she stopped glowing and she barely had on any Armor so at the point when the statue was dropped on her she was just a normal ass person and trust you try to take a ten ton statue to the body without powers you’d die too. 😭😭
Wanda didn’t get powers from the dark hold she only got the knowledge of everything she can do she has a whole chapter for her and what she can do
Wanda is not Amped by the Darkhold. That is HER power.
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