EDIT: I was wrong, pack size does not affect shard loot (it just affects regular loot). Classic strat, simple, raw currency loot, easy to liquidate. Decent numbers (for this league). Would recommend, dont think this requires a strong character, can always add niko / shrines for character power. If you have minions take the no-chain pantheon (Lunaris large) to counter the big harbi casting lightning balls. Thanks for watching!
I wanted to comment just in case you don't know this: Pack size does not increase shard drops from harbinger. Nothing affects it other than scarabs and atlas. If your claim is that the mobs generated by harbinger drop more general loot with pack size, then yes that is true.
So wait… I get the same harbinger div/hr from a 20% pack size and like… 50% quant As I do from 40% pack size and 100%+ quant???? Like, if you’re saying NOTHING affects harby loot, then isn’t it better to just alch and go? Cause that seems… like that can’t be right, can it??
Love the "fuck rolling boxes" rant in the middle of the video. I mostly run pure alch and go strats, Destructive Play is my favorite node on the Atlas tree so this league I've mostly ran a tree with scarab and map drops, Jun and Niko nodes and my gameplay loop is like "Run 4 guardian/conqueror maps, do the invitation -> if Sulphite full, go delve. if not, do another set of guardians and an invitation". I sell resonators, fossils, mavens writs, boss currency, maven's chisels and scarabs, whatever Gravicius gives me from transport safehouses (prolly gonna start doing Catarina because Gravicius hasn't been a friend this league) and I've had a great time because I can literally just blast as fast as I want and I don't really need to worry about buying anything, spamming any currencies, worry about anything and whenever I need to buy something, I can spend a few minutes chatting with Faustus and suddenly there's a stack of divines
I mean, buying scarabs is exactly 1 minute, few minutes to buy 8 mods, like 50 in one trade, and you have 50 maps to run and you can blast, buy in much more fun maps because of quantity of enemies, and much more profit
@@Sindamsc I don’t want to go in some trade discord and buy maps, especially 8 mod corrupted ones because there are mods that kinda cripple my build, and I definitely do not want to sit in my hideout rolling them. I come out of map, open the next one, dump some loot and jump back in. That ”few minutes to prepare the next 50 maps” is where I usually am inefficient because I get lazy, try to get nice prices and slow down. The amount of maps doesn’t mean anything. If I try to be quick, I do 3 guardian invitations and two runs of 30000 sulphite in almost an hour, depending on whether or not I do safehouses in the middle and usually it translates to 6-10divs per cycle depengin on things like boss drop rng, scarab drop rng, and wether or not I find a lot of good nodes in delve and I get to do varied map layouts and varied content itself without getting bored while not having to use my brain at all as the loop feeds itself and needs no tricks to sustain as the guardian maps almost sustain themselves so I pretty rarely need to dip out to normal t16 maps. I also break up the cycle by running the t17s I find myself and ofc there two other trees to fiddle around. I’ve played PoE for over 10K hours and I’m just tired of tryharding. Yet I have been able to sink a couple hundred divines into a build quite comfortably while working 38h a week and having two kids. ”Better” is relative to how much currency you need. I’m not gonna do 7 builds per league so I’m fine with not having the biggest income in wraeclast as I don’t play standard and have no need for excess wealth.
@@RichHeart89 Same here. Haven't played for a few years, two kids etc. and I'm just having a blast this league playing maps I like, just alch and go, no investments, farm Sulphite, delve for hours... My goal is not to get rich but minmax my gear slowly over time and hit 100. About to hit 98:)
after taking a break for 1 year I thought the 3 trees they gave is more than enough, but with the scarab changes you kinda need 4-5 scarabs for just one mechanic so investing points into other league mechanics is kinda bad, if you easily get bored with one strat you're in for a bad time
I did about 250 of these maps for my mageblood. I averaged about a fracturing shard per map. I scryed the frac orb div card but never dropped one. Ended up with about 12.5 frac orbs, 600 Ancient orbs, 700 Annuls, and close to 100 ex. Fun strat
I think there is no longer map boss exclusive cards now they put the div card display on Atlas. Problabry only guardians and above have exclusive card drops now.
Harbies can bring happines and saddness with a single drop: Happy: Dropped a mirror shard Sad: welp the full mirror did not proc from the atlas node...
Unspeakable Offensive on the atlas tree still gives you a small chance to drop a full orb instead of shards. I had this only proc once for me and dropped a full fracturing orb instead of shards. I believe you havve to hit the shard table then get lucky on the roll again for Unspeakable Offensive to trigger.
Yes, this was my first strat along with harvest and jun early in league for crafting recipes and currency and I dropped a few fractures raw and many shards
Been testing this strat since a few days and can say that even tho using another harby scarab instead of obbelisks is adding more harby and making it easier to collect the loot, it also makes the maps take a bit longe cuz u have to wait +1 harby to spawn all his minions. Loving the series btw! Thx for the videos
I've ran a bit of Abysses, mostly for gold and xp and you must be ready to click a lot for all the hoards that spawn on the maps. But it is way less rippy than a full juiced harbingers + beyond strat for sure.
10:29 i like to think this viewer has been watching Empy religiously, counting his deaths manually, just to wait for this exact moment and give him a tiny bit of content for this video.
I've been running this strat for a while but with beyond, profit is a bit less but gold/h is definetly higher, also on the fracturing orbs you definetly got unlucky, I avarage 3 per 50maps. Very good strat and very good video.
Still a beginner here, so need my time to run maps and all. Just made around 40k gold from a t15 deli map that i had with a 5 slot map device. As said map had a 20% deli layer essences, i added magic packsize scarab, beyond scarab, 2 Cloister Divination Scarabs and a Ambush craft. Atlas tree is set around deli rewards, extra strongbox, explicit mods, quant and scarab drops. Unfortunately kept going so didn't track investment/profit of that map. Unsure what the map has cost me, but the scarabs and the ambush craft was roughly 18c for 5 slot map device.
I have to say that this strat is very nice at league start or when lvling new character, since harbingers provide good amount of exp. Leveled my char from 97 to 99 doing this, and it was something like 2 or 3 days of NOT constant mapping
Been giving this a go and unless I'm just getting insanely lucky it seems Empy had really bad luck with fracturing shards/orbs. I've been doing just Alch and Go T16's with the scarab and tree set up (except I am using 1 obelisk scarab) 20 maps at a time and the lowest I had was 18 fracturing shards at the end of just 20 maps, and the highest was 38 (1 full orb and 18 shards). If I counted up to 50 maps from what I've done I'd have 3 Fractures + some shards.
Did harbis this league for like a week, really enjoyable strat, people complain its a lot of clicking but you have stuff in single spot not like breach or legion so imo much better to pick. And profit can vary very much, once i didnt get a single fracturing shard in 30 maps, and then almost 1 orb in 20 maps.
There's quite a lot of mods I couldn't probably handle, so I roll my maps until 80%+ quant and go. Also running with spires instead of 3 extra harbis, it's cheaper and I get more frags in total, as every harbinger gets 4-5 spires. So it's basically 2x habis in map and way more rolls on the device. Kinda sad my scarabs will probably go up in price now, but I guess it's also time to do some challenges and maybe hit 36/40. Silo + Destructive Play for some bonus maps, maven chisels and sometimes woke gems. Eating good for now, especially from strongbox quality currency XD I hope it goes as high as possible while I have stock.
Bait or cringe suggestion: Speed-run Catarina for veiled chaos orbs and paradoxica/other uniques. Im not even good at the game and can usually get about 2 catarinas per hour, which is usually at least 1 veiled orb (9.5 div) currently. I do it on city square and just run straight to the betrayal encounters and then kill the boss for Exarch progress. Can combine with another boom and zoom strat, like essence or idk what else. so far the best low investment strat that I can find this league.
Because I was low on gold and maps, I triend maximizing the monster packs via shrines. Apparently I was sleeping on that because it's hella fun and good. Easy to stack, easy to deal with.
Obelisks scarabs are decent (they can drop full currency items too) if u swap Regency scarabs instead and run super budget harbis, otherwise i don't think its worth that much i prefer 15 harbis per map
Essence Memories are dropping in price, the farm is kinda boring but tiny investment (50-60c a memory for 5 maps, plus corruption remnants). Makes really good div an hour you can do on any build in T6 maps. Suggest this next. Downside in T6 is no gold, with your busted build you could try running them as alched T16 if you like. Bonus is that the Altas tree doesn't apply, so you don't need any Atlas strategy or preplanning (saves time and costs). I made 40Div in Essences yesterday, so I can vouch. I did T6 zoomies, just hit essences only and corrupted every one. Extra bonus, upgrade all essences and roll all the deafening 2C essences with harvest and reroll special essences to Horror (i think that was the 25C one). Was doing 6 memories an hour easily without thinking, 30 maps - you could do them way faster (I need to learn your looting method, works well with essences) Essences are super liquid on the market on Trade site or through the exchange. Sell for Div multipliers (not chaos) to save gold costs.
@@Jefferson11169 Yes, I farm them together with either alva or einhar since neither care about low tier maps too. You lose altars tho. I really liked because my mappers are kind of low levels and this gets them a bunch of low tier maps for them to farm too
Great video as always Empy! I've been farming harbingers since first week of the league, it's been very fun. On my first 20 maps I got 2 mirror shards, I had a streak of 4 maps dropping fracture shards back to back, so far I think I ran 400 maps and probably made over 300 divines, not sure because I invested in my build and used a lot to craft some gear. It's arguably a good strat, fun for me, gives a lot of xp (got my first lvl 100 because of this), a lot of gold and a lot of currency which is easy to sell on Faustus, that's the main thing that made me switch from 8 mod maps to harbinger, no tft interaction needed.
I found out Bestiary is quite good for gold. WIth just 2 scarabs that add 10 red beasts + 40% magic pack size scarab + 2x adversariers scarabs Im getting around 45k gold per map (since every beasts is rare monster and those drop quite a lot of gold)
Heyo Empy, I'm trying to figure out how many fracturing shards you got, at 11:14 it shows 1 orb and 10 shards in the currency tab, but then at 15:15 on the wealthyexile window it shows 16 shards, could you clarify? thx
Okay I got to ask since I've seen it in every video. What's with the random items in the stash tab? Is it just random or do they serve some 5head purpose? (belts, swords, etc.)
I farmed like 25 divines worth of fracturing orbs alone in like 3 days, not counting everything else doing harbs. The thing is, there is no magic "make 20 divines per hour" unless youre doing group play or doing some super juiced tier 17 strat. The average player can make like 6-8 div per hour doing basic strats like Harbs, Breach. WIth that said, i'll sell my harbinger scarabs after this video and buy them back after 3-4 days lol
2 part question If you make your mappers run Defiled cathedral can they get an apothecary? And if they can what happens if i scry defiled cathedral on jungle valley
Yes to the first. Nothing happens to Defiled cathedral. Scrying copies the card drops. It doesn't transfer them. However, as far as I could tell, mappers don't respect scrying. They'll still drop original cards from the map.
Аверага кушает. Но в среднем, раз в 8 карт выпадают расколотые осколки от 2 до 8(миррор шарды с харбов не видел пару лиг), в редких случаях больше. +Если чистить фулл мапу выходит много голды, а также часто прокает сир и дырка в полу. Использовать скарабы на обелиски не имеет смысла, т.к. дроп с обелисков не связан с харбом, с которым он заспавнился. Вместо этого лучше брать скараба на еще 3 харба. На т17 дропрейт осколков почему то хуже, но если билд позволяет (закрывать обмазанные т17), то можно фармить скарабов через харбингеров. У алли/элли есть видео на этот счёт. Вообще, пока бегал 8модки оскверненного собора заметил что одними только древними осколками/орбами сыпет до 8д в час. Когда перешёл на ледник, хороший дроп вообще пропал. Шизотеория: карта, которую фармит большая часть игроков - даёт меньше, поэтому лучше бегать удобную, чем популярную.
The speed looting demo comes from countless leagues of being a curse + loot bot, I can't believe anyone contradicts this wealth of professional looting experience.
Do you have a source for packsize? Here is what MF Academy says: "Also, and I cannot stress this enough in light of streamers making videos and getting it wrong: The shards dropped by harbingers are unaffected by everything except scarabs and atlas passive tree. All non-shard loot is affected by all normal loot-affecting stuff (quant, rarity, pack size, whatever)."
@@Empyriangaming We need to do 10 Maps T1 AND 10 Maps t16 8-mods WITH THE LOWEST FILTER (I know right) both with same atlas tree / scarabs and compare the results and be over with this mystery
Glad scarab farming along with essences is still a fun strat. People can do fun atlas strategies and ill continue to sell scarabs so I can watch the goober fest lmao
Whats the reason for 8 mod harbinger? I thought harbinger loot isnt affected by map quant/rarity? I mean I guess you could 8 mod to improve your chances for divines/valdos. I get pack size helps scale, but is 8 mod really necessary for that?
@@SamolonXDYT And if you reread what I said, youll see I mentioned pack size, which seems to be the only reason for 8 mod maps. Let me rephrase so youll understand better. Is it WORTH it to 8 mod harbinger maps?
@@staxx1559 The only way you are gonna get high pack size is with 8 mod maps. You can try and roll 6 mods with decent packsize but its going to be beaten out by 8 mods.
So I'm gonna share a little thing I did for this strategy. I altered my filter to show the stacks of engineering orbs. I've been selling engineering orbs for between 1 and 1.5 chaos each to Faustus. I just now logged in this morning and he had 890 chaos from selling 600 of those over the night. That's because a lot of people are doing the strong box looting. A little tip for anyone looking to maximize this strat a little more. Cheers! I'm gonna start another strategy and I'll see if Empy will a video on it in a couple days 😆
@@brianh5844 I loot the shards as well. Just like I loot chaos shards. It's basically 1 for 1 right now on prices. So each engineer orb is 1 chaos orb. If you're willing to be a little patient you can price them for even more than a chaos, which is what I do. I price them about 1.5 chaos each.
I did 50+ maps of harbies this league. I had 1.5 fracturing orbs and 150 ancient orbs. Tilted me seeing you get fracturing shards in maps back to back 😅
Not sure if youve dropped one yet but itemised mist doesnt come from the one that shows on the minimap. They just randomly drop, all 3 ive found just ting-ed.
Hi, struggling hard with Currency farming, actually rng harbinger, but still no great kind of worth drop or currency...so what scarabs have to be used for a better chance for drop rate. ty all
The key is to invest in 20 maps minimum. If you can't buy scarabs for atleast 20 maps dont bother. Just doing 1 or 2 map will give you nothing in return, just waste currency.
@@hamzahussain7794 hi ty for help, am just new with poe and get in last 3 days 1 Div drop, thats it and its not funny anymore..:( but i did wrong with scarabs seems. ty
Hey Empy just wanna say that I am happy this "Based or Cringe" videos are popping off this much. Love the content, you deserve it!
one of the best POE series's to ever exist, for some reason i'd rather watch empy showcase atlast in this way compared to other atlas ahowcase videos
He’s literally been doing this since forever. He just changed the name. Back in the day he would call them “investment strategies.”
@@slifer4912not quite as catchy as "based or cringe" 😜
EDIT: I was wrong, pack size does not affect shard loot (it just affects regular loot).
Classic strat, simple, raw currency loot, easy to liquidate. Decent numbers (for this league). Would recommend, dont think this requires a strong character, can always add niko / shrines for character power. If you have minions take the no-chain pantheon (Lunaris large) to counter the big harbi casting lightning balls.
Thanks for watching!
its a rng loot based game, the fun comes from loot and using the loot to get better and get more loot.
I wanted to comment just in case you don't know this: Pack size does not increase shard drops from harbinger. Nothing affects it other than scarabs and atlas. If your claim is that the mobs generated by harbinger drop more general loot with pack size, then yes that is true.
@@rileystrom8530 Pack size does affect harbinger shard drops since 3.20. it has been thoroughly tested and increased pack size makes a big difference.
So wait… I get the same harbinger div/hr from a 20% pack size and like… 50% quant
As I do from 40% pack size and 100%+ quant????
Like, if you’re saying NOTHING affects harby loot, then isn’t it better to just alch and go?
Cause that seems… like that can’t be right, can it??
they should make the reflecting mist rings have the Well Rolled mechanic talismans used to have
Talismans need a buff too
Love the "fuck rolling boxes" rant in the middle of the video. I mostly run pure alch and go strats, Destructive Play is my favorite node on the Atlas tree so this league I've mostly ran a tree with scarab and map drops, Jun and Niko nodes and my gameplay loop is like "Run 4 guardian/conqueror maps, do the invitation -> if Sulphite full, go delve. if not, do another set of guardians and an invitation". I sell resonators, fossils, mavens writs, boss currency, maven's chisels and scarabs, whatever Gravicius gives me from transport safehouses (prolly gonna start doing Catarina because Gravicius hasn't been a friend this league) and I've had a great time because I can literally just blast as fast as I want and I don't really need to worry about buying anything, spamming any currencies, worry about anything and whenever I need to buy something, I can spend a few minutes chatting with Faustus and suddenly there's a stack of divines
I mean, buying scarabs is exactly 1 minute, few minutes to buy 8 mods, like 50 in one trade, and you have 50 maps to run and you can blast, buy in much more fun maps because of quantity of enemies, and much more profit
@@Sindamsc I don’t want to go in some trade discord and buy maps, especially 8 mod corrupted ones because there are mods that kinda cripple my build, and I definitely do not want to sit in my hideout rolling them. I come out of map, open the next one, dump some loot and jump back in. That ”few minutes to prepare the next 50 maps” is where I usually am inefficient because I get lazy, try to get nice prices and slow down. The amount of maps doesn’t mean anything. If I try to be quick, I do 3 guardian invitations and two runs of 30000 sulphite in almost an hour, depending on whether or not I do safehouses in the middle and usually it translates to 6-10divs per cycle depengin on things like boss drop rng, scarab drop rng, and wether or not I find a lot of good nodes in delve and I get to do varied map layouts and varied content itself without getting bored while not having to use my brain at all as the loop feeds itself and needs no tricks to sustain as the guardian maps almost sustain themselves so I pretty rarely need to dip out to normal t16 maps. I also break up the cycle by running the t17s I find myself and ofc there two other trees to fiddle around.
I’ve played PoE for over 10K hours and I’m just tired of tryharding. Yet I have been able to sink a couple hundred divines into a build quite comfortably while working 38h a week and having two kids. ”Better” is relative to how much currency you need. I’m not gonna do 7 builds per league so I’m fine with not having the biggest income in wraeclast as I don’t play standard and have no need for excess wealth.
@@RichHeart89 Same here. Haven't played for a few years, two kids etc. and I'm just having a blast this league playing maps I like, just alch and go, no investments, farm Sulphite, delve for hours... My goal is not to get rich but minmax my gear slowly over time and hit 100. About to hit 98:)
Yes! Too many people don't get it.
@@RichHeart89 lol, you buy them with regex, without mods that cripple your build
Really wish we had 10 atlas trees to swap from one strat to another
Would make orb of unmaking almost useless
They should just make respeccing the atlas tree completely free tbh, no real need for the cost other than inconvenience
@@aspidinton why do they need a use, the talent tree follows a pretty old gaming design
after taking a break for 1 year I thought the 3 trees they gave is more than enough, but with the scarab changes you kinda need 4-5 scarabs for just one mechanic so investing points into other league mechanics is kinda bad, if you easily get bored with one strat you're in for a bad time
@@Moorb0y52 true
I did about 250 of these maps for my mageblood. I averaged about a fracturing shard per map. I scryed the frac orb div card but never dropped one. Ended up with about 12.5 frac orbs, 600 Ancient orbs, 700 Annuls, and close to 100 ex. Fun strat
If you are referring to the card "i see brothers" it used to be boss only drop. Unsure if that changed with 3.25
@@pbc1337 that explains it then
It did change with 3.25. It’s now a zone drop like any other card; specifically one tied to the Strand map.
@@pbc1337 i got one farming strand not on the boss so is not a boss drop anymore
I think there is no longer map boss exclusive cards now they put the div card display on Atlas.
Problabry only guardians and above have exclusive card drops now.
Harbies can bring happines and saddness with a single drop:
Happy: Dropped a mirror shard Sad: welp the full mirror did not proc from the atlas node...
Unspeakable Offensive on the atlas tree still gives you a small chance to drop a full orb instead of shards. I had this only proc once for me and dropped a full fracturing orb instead of shards. I believe you havve to hit the shard table then get lucky on the roll again for Unspeakable Offensive to trigger.
Yes, this was my first strat along with harvest and jun early in league for crafting recipes and currency and I dropped a few fractures raw and many shards
Been testing this strat since a few days and can say that even tho using another harby scarab instead of obbelisks is adding more harby and making it easier to collect the loot, it also makes the maps take a bit longe cuz u have to wait +1 harby to spawn all his minions. Loving the series btw! Thx for the videos
I've ran a bit of Abysses, mostly for gold and xp and you must be ready to click a lot for all the hoards that spawn on the maps. But it is way less rippy than a full juiced harbingers + beyond strat for sure.
10:29 i like to think this viewer has been watching Empy religiously, counting his deaths manually, just to wait for this exact moment and give him a tiny bit of content for this video.
I've been running this strat for a while but with beyond, profit is a bit less but gold/h is definetly higher, also on the fracturing orbs you definetly got unlucky, I avarage 3 per 50maps. Very good strat and very good video.
Beyond doesn’t drop gold, for gold you should go for Deli nodes
Beyond doesnt drop gold
no you got lucky. 3 in 50 is insane.
3 shards in 50? are you cursed? more like 3 orbs in 50 lol
Still a beginner here, so need my time to run maps and all. Just made around 40k gold from a t15 deli map that i had with a 5 slot map device. As said map had a 20% deli layer essences, i added magic packsize scarab, beyond scarab, 2 Cloister Divination Scarabs and a Ambush craft. Atlas tree is set around deli rewards, extra strongbox, explicit mods, quant and scarab drops. Unfortunately kept going so didn't track investment/profit of that map. Unsure what the map has cost me, but the scarabs and the ambush craft was roughly 18c for 5 slot map device.
Amazing timing. I was just considering Harbis. Eager to hear whatcha gotta say here mate
my brain stopped braining for a secc while reading thumbnail
I wish harbinger had a keystone. I love the mechanic.
I have to say that this strat is very nice at league start or when lvling new character, since harbingers provide good amount of exp. Leveled my char from 97 to 99 doing this, and it was something like 2 or 3 days of NOT constant mapping
The itemised mist drops when you click it, so it doesn't even open the window which I know because I dropped one.
That's weird. I had to click mine I'm pretty sure
I pick up loot by not spamming Z, instead I do one swoop across, then reset it with Z. Maybe it's not faster, but it feels comfy.
Been giving this a go and unless I'm just getting insanely lucky it seems Empy had really bad luck with fracturing shards/orbs. I've been doing just Alch and Go T16's with the scarab and tree set up (except I am using 1 obelisk scarab) 20 maps at a time and the lowest I had was 18 fracturing shards at the end of just 20 maps, and the highest was 38 (1 full orb and 18 shards). If I counted up to 50 maps from what I've done I'd have 3 Fractures + some shards.
Harby is so fun, I don't know why I've just always loved it.
Did harbis this league for like a week, really enjoyable strat, people complain its a lot of clicking but you have stuff in single spot not like breach or legion so imo much better to pick. And profit can vary very much, once i didnt get a single fracturing shard in 30 maps, and then almost 1 orb in 20 maps.
everytime i hear the music he listens to in the bg im like
he would probably enjoy ENA
There's quite a lot of mods I couldn't probably handle, so I roll my maps until 80%+ quant and go. Also running with spires instead of 3 extra harbis, it's cheaper and I get more frags in total, as every harbinger gets 4-5 spires. So it's basically 2x habis in map and way more rolls on the device.
Kinda sad my scarabs will probably go up in price now, but I guess it's also time to do some challenges and maybe hit 36/40.
Silo + Destructive Play for some bonus maps, maven chisels and sometimes woke gems. Eating good for now, especially from strongbox quality currency XD I hope it goes as high as possible while I have stock.
Bait or cringe suggestion: Speed-run Catarina for veiled chaos orbs and paradoxica/other uniques. Im not even good at the game and can usually get about 2 catarinas per hour, which is usually at least 1 veiled orb (9.5 div) currently. I do it on city square and just run straight to the betrayal encounters and then kill the boss for Exarch progress.
Can combine with another boom and zoom strat, like essence or idk what else. so far the best low investment strat that I can find this league.
Fun fact you don't need to kill the boss for exarch progress. Just the first exarch mob
Because I was low on gold and maps, I triend maximizing the monster packs via shrines. Apparently I was sleeping on that because it's hella fun and good. Easy to stack, easy to deal with.
Obelisks scarabs are decent (they can drop full currency items too) if u swap Regency scarabs instead and run super budget harbis, otherwise i don't think its worth that much i prefer 15 harbis per map
Essence Memories are dropping in price, the farm is kinda boring but tiny investment (50-60c a memory for 5 maps, plus corruption remnants). Makes really good div an hour you can do on any build in T6 maps. Suggest this next. Downside in T6 is no gold, with your busted build you could try running them as alched T16 if you like. Bonus is that the Altas tree doesn't apply, so you don't need any Atlas strategy or preplanning (saves time and costs).
I made 40Div in Essences yesterday, so I can vouch. I did T6 zoomies, just hit essences only and corrupted every one. Extra bonus, upgrade all essences and roll all the deafening 2C essences with harvest and reroll special essences to Horror (i think that was the 25C one). Was doing 6 memories an hour easily without thinking, 30 maps - you could do them way faster (I need to learn your looting method, works well with essences)
Essences are super liquid on the market on Trade site or through the exchange. Sell for Div multipliers (not chaos) to save gold costs.
Yeah but you blow through gold liquidating unless you want sell in bulk at 90% of value.
You can also do harbies in low tier maps since they aren't affected by map tier.
Reall?
@@Jefferson11169 Yes, I farm them together with either alva or einhar since neither care about low tier maps too. You lose altars tho. I really liked because my mappers are kind of low levels and this gets them a bunch of low tier maps for them to farm too
Great video as always Empy! I've been farming harbingers since first week of the league, it's been very fun. On my first 20 maps I got 2 mirror shards, I had a streak of 4 maps dropping fracture shards back to back, so far I think I ran 400 maps and probably made over 300 divines, not sure because I invested in my build and used a lot to craft some gear. It's arguably a good strat, fun for me, gives a lot of xp (got my first lvl 100 because of this), a lot of gold and a lot of currency which is easy to sell on Faustus, that's the main thing that made me switch from 8 mod maps to harbinger, no tft interaction needed.
I found out Bestiary is quite good for gold. WIth just 2 scarabs that add 10 red beasts + 40% magic pack size scarab + 2x adversariers scarabs Im getting around 45k gold per map (since every beasts is rare monster and those drop quite a lot of gold)
well until you hit max beasts. at that point, deleting the beasts u wont sell anyways is just a chore.
@@TempestPoet Or you just ignore it and treat beasts as extra rares for gold ^ ^
Excellent music choices. I heard Diablo 2 and old school WoW in there!!!
that happened to me a couple days ago where the map disappeared and i lost all the loot i had picked up
how do you assign click to the wheel?
Heyo Empy, I'm trying to figure out how many fracturing shards you got, at 11:14 it shows 1 orb and 10 shards in the currency tab, but then at 15:15 on the wealthyexile window it shows 16 shards, could you clarify? thx
It’s 1 orb 10 shards, the 16 was an old snapshot of the stash shown while he’s about to sync the current one
@@waowNroks OOOOOOOOOH he clicks sync like 4 seconds after and then it shows 1orb10shard, I was just being a moron. Thanks!
Curious about this one because i have no idea how you can make money with harbingers
What filter do you use for Harbinger ?
Okay I got to ask since I've seen it in every video. What's with the random items in the stash tab? Is it just random or do they serve some 5head purpose? (belts, swords, etc.)
cutedog's ancient crane technique. you block first half of your inventory so your maps and stuff end up on right hand side
I farmed like 25 divines worth of fracturing orbs alone in like 3 days, not counting everything else doing harbs. The thing is, there is no magic "make 20 divines per hour" unless youre doing group play or doing some super juiced tier 17 strat. The average player can make like 6-8 div per hour doing basic strats like Harbs, Breach. WIth that said, i'll sell my harbinger scarabs after this video and buy them back after 3-4 days lol
Is there a reason for all the higher tier map chane on the tree? Or just didn't have anything better to put points in?
Hello, looks like you play with GFN , what program are you using for pricing ?
I don’t play with gfn, only during week 1 group play for a few hours during eu peak hours. I use awakened poe trade and it doesnt work with gfn.
@@Empyriangaming thank you, i thought you found some app that works with gfn
2 part question
If you make your mappers run Defiled cathedral can they get an apothecary?
And if they can what happens if i scry defiled cathedral on jungle valley
Yes to the first.
Nothing happens to Defiled cathedral. Scrying copies the card drops. It doesn't transfer them.
However, as far as I could tell, mappers don't respect scrying. They'll still drop original cards from the map.
As a Harby enjoyer and it being the inlt league mech I always have. Darn you for showing off my strat 😂
Is it possible to do double delirium by spawning a delirium mirror in and delirium influenced map ?
Hi Empy I don't know if you tried ritual strat this league if not try it!
The mad raving bear going ham did it for me today 🤘
do altars effect harbinger or it is just for map monsters?
What about a vid on crafting for profit?
did this last week and made a fracturing orb in 10 maps lol
So, just to confirm. I could do the exact same strat in tier 1 scoured maps and get the same amount of shards?
Yep! 90% sure
Perhaps a good metric for based and cringe could also be how much experience per hour was gained
Why use Bold undertakings on the atlas tree if you are not using Fortune favours the brave on the map device?
To path to the bottom map nodes for less points
@@Empyriangaming Aaaah that makes sense! Thanks :)
did this couple weeks ago got mirror from harby drop luckyest harbi ever
Hey empy you miss type some of the calculations please check 16+16+15 it should be 16+16+5 also in maps there was a mistake idk 😬
Nope, 15 for 3 harbi scarabs. 5+5+5 is 15.
@@Empyriangaming ohh i see 🫡 keep up the amazing strategies coming
Maybe breach next? Would like to know if Its valid in any way.
How can we bind Left mouse click to scroll?
Do people use autohotkey for this?
Is it safe for poe?
I use X mouse button control
Just remember. Never calculate maps unless they are 8 mod or just popular layouts.
any way to make the map harder and more rewarding ?
Аверага кушает. Но в среднем, раз в 8 карт выпадают расколотые осколки от 2 до 8(миррор шарды с харбов не видел пару лиг), в редких случаях больше. +Если чистить фулл мапу выходит много голды, а также часто прокает сир и дырка в полу. Использовать скарабы на обелиски не имеет смысла, т.к. дроп с обелисков не связан с харбом, с которым он заспавнился. Вместо этого лучше брать скараба на еще 3 харба. На т17 дропрейт осколков почему то хуже, но если билд позволяет (закрывать обмазанные т17), то можно фармить скарабов через харбингеров. У алли/элли есть видео на этот счёт.
Вообще, пока бегал 8модки оскверненного собора заметил что одними только древними осколками/орбами сыпет до 8д в час. Когда перешёл на ледник, хороший дроп вообще пропал. Шизотеория: карта, которую фармит большая часть игроков - даёт меньше, поэтому лучше бегать удобную, чем популярную.
The good thing about showing the chat on the broadcast is that you can see in the video that the chat only has the masters of drops and profit LMAO
loot pile speed any %.... so funny
AND... the notepad was likely the gold... so 1.3 million for the 3.33 hours, or about 350K per/hour gold.
how does he click with mouse wheel. I treid to find it but i could not unbind mouse 1. :D
"Harbis" and "Reliable" on the same sentence is wiiiiiild
Dunno 12 div/h (capped by harbis spawning rather than giga clear speed) with less than avg luck on fractures is pretty reliable in my opinion.
it is reliable but pretty boring imo, you never really get big ticket items (mirror shards), always just steady fractured shards drops
@@MasterAdrenalyn that's true for almost all league mechanics though. At least harbingers can get lucky with full fractured orb and mirror shard drops
@@ezet ye thats why i like strongboxes or boss farms the most
I've never had more instance crashes resulting in losing maps than with harbi. Shame cause it's one of my fav things to farm :(
I ran 40 8-mods and got 4 fracturing shards.
Since when do harbingers drop more shards per map's pack size%?
Pretty sure since their introduction. More packsize = they spawn more mobs = more loot.
@@Empyriangamingohh that’s for the clarification, I assumed you meant it influenced share drops somehow
@@jacksonnadler-block2869 that means more shard drops also
@@ezet why do you say that? Have not seen a single source that says this
Questioning Empy on loot efficiency makes me think of Bazuka not being my Dad. Stupid.
A question, is it worth the 8 mods for harbringer?
Yes
@@Empyriangaming thank you, so hard to find info on what scales with harbringer
@@Qslig pack size basically
Beasts are so much currency and they could be twice as much and I still wouldn't do it.
+ 1230, types in 1320. good job :D
Is wealthy exile better than Exilence CE?
yes
Damn I haven't seen a map completely crashing like that and closing in a long time since they made maps instances separate from HO
Anyone know how to bind scroll wheel to click?
These videos are definitely based. Been loving your strats!
The lag has been so bad this league..I desync so many times per day
u gotta do the diviner box on castle ruins XD
obelisks have given me more consistent drops. more double fracture shard drops, but less stack size.
The speed looting demo comes from countless leagues of being a curse + loot bot, I can't believe anyone contradicts this wealth of professional looting experience.
I can confirm the 12,5 div/h. I did the strat after i saw this video. Did everything like in this video
Hey has anyone already tried it on T17 maps?
quant doesnt work on Harbi? Damn im 11k hours into PoE and this is the first time im hearing this.
Do you have a source for packsize? Here is what MF Academy says: "Also, and I cannot stress this enough in light of streamers making videos and getting it wrong: The shards dropped by harbingers are unaffected by everything except scarabs and atlas passive tree. All non-shard loot is affected by all normal loot-affecting stuff (quant, rarity, pack size, whatever)."
I've been told by people who farmed a lot of harbingers, for now I edited the top comment saying I was wrong. Unsure.
@@Empyriangaming We need to do 10 Maps T1 AND 10 Maps t16 8-mods WITH THE LOWEST FILTER (I know right) both with same atlas tree / scarabs and compare the results and be over with this mystery
imagine rolling boxes
Definitely takes bit longer than previous league
T17 is better very realiable, love your content, and strat experiments
"Trader sold it" :D
Glad scarab farming along with essences is still a fun strat. People can do fun atlas strategies and ill continue to sell scarabs so I can watch the goober fest lmao
Obelisk is much better than 3 more harbinger. About 1/3 of my frac drops from obelisk and I got my mirror shards from obelisk as well.
It is, and I said so in the video.
When harby scarabs were cheap and someone releases a vid to make the price go up :D
So it turns out t16 loot is fine.
D2 music chad
so less than a div per map
i got all my pure fracturing orb drops from obelisks this league :) just saying
Whats the reason for 8 mod harbinger? I thought harbinger loot isnt affected by map quant/rarity? I mean I guess you could 8 mod to improve your chances for divines/valdos. I get pack size helps scale, but is 8 mod really necessary for that?
dude. he literaly said why in the first 2 minutes
@@SamolonXDYT And if you reread what I said, youll see I mentioned pack size, which seems to be the only reason for 8 mod maps. Let me rephrase so youll understand better. Is it WORTH it to 8 mod harbinger maps?
@@staxx1559 The only way you are gonna get high pack size is with 8 mod maps. You can try and roll 6 mods with decent packsize but its going to be beaten out by 8 mods.
So I'm gonna share a little thing I did for this strategy. I altered my filter to show the stacks of engineering orbs. I've been selling engineering orbs for between 1 and 1.5 chaos each to Faustus. I just now logged in this morning and he had 890 chaos from selling 600 of those over the night. That's because a lot of people are doing the strong box looting.
A little tip for anyone looking to maximize this strat a little more. Cheers! I'm gonna start another strategy and I'll see if Empy will a video on it in a couple days 😆
Are you just looting full engineering orbs or the shards as well?
@@brianh5844 I loot the shards as well. Just like I loot chaos shards. It's basically 1 for 1 right now on prices. So each engineer orb is 1 chaos orb. If you're willing to be a little patient you can price them for even more than a chaos, which is what I do. I price them about 1.5 chaos each.
I did 50+ maps of harbies this league. I had 1.5 fracturing orbs and 150 ancient orbs. Tilted me seeing you get fracturing shards in maps back to back 😅
And then I see your total was basically the same as mine at the end!
I do feel like shit you're right
Not sure if youve dropped one yet but itemised mist doesnt come from the one that shows on the minimap. They just randomly drop, all 3 ive found just ting-ed.
Mine dropped from clicking on the mist
Hi, struggling hard with Currency farming, actually rng harbinger, but still no great kind of worth drop or currency...so what scarabs have to be used for a better chance for drop rate. ty all
3 normal harbinger, 1 regency, 1 warhoards + harbinger 4c on map device.
The key is to invest in 20 maps minimum. If you can't buy scarabs for atleast 20 maps dont bother. Just doing 1 or 2 map will give you nothing in return, just waste currency.
@@hamzahussain7794 hi ty for help, am just new with poe and get in last 3 days 1 Div drop, thats it and its not funny anymore..:( but i did wrong with scarabs seems. ty
Why don't you turn off the loot when picking up a pile? It's faster
Good one