also it's not a movie there's a difference between documentaries and movies this is a documentary not movie. movies have characters and are fictional majority of the time and documentaries are based on real life issues and have real live people in them not characters. ;)
Thank you Dan !!! I grew up in the church and being gay it's so hard, the emotional damage is wow.. amazing work! Hope your voice will be heard by the whole world and things can change!
I was raised Mormon. I walked away as a young adult because I knew in my heart that the God I knew, was inclusive of all People and judgement and shaming are man made. I was brainwashed into believing that my value was based on how closely I followed the teachings of this gospel. The reality is, organized religions are a club with specific rules and belief systems, like any other club. Adults get to chose if they join a religion. Children are indoctrinated and accepted only as long as they are living the life they are told they should live. When children make choices that do not match up with those teachings, they are shamed, shunned and guilted into submission. Lesson learned: if an organization cannot recognize the beauty in your soul and the love in your heart, they do not deserve you.
Best man ever!! I am behind you Dan 100%. I am not Morman but I lost my brother who was gay People would say horrid things to him and about him. He was a most precious soul and I love and accepted every part of his being He loved animals and his friends and me. We stuck together through thick % thin. I wish I had never moved to Ca. and while living here is when I got the call about his passing. I have had a very hard time as I blame myself for leaving when clearly he needed me. Keep using this huge platform that has been granted to you to open the eyes and hearts of all church leaders as well as parents. LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE. Blessings Deborah carneal/dens/Denchanted
holy hell I’m sobbing like a baby as a 16 yr old lesbian that was born and raised Mormon, this hit way to close to home. Honestly Mormons are good people with good intentions, and so many of them try to help anyone in any way they can. But they just don’t accept lgbtq+ people and it hurts like a bitch to the kids that are lgbtq+
YounoHou I am so deeply sorry to hear. I’m so glad you’re staying strong, and continuing to fight for a place for people like him to go to when things are rough. If you ever need support, I (and the community) will be here for you
Toasty thank you. Myself a d children are in a much better place now. It's been 5 years. We've come to terms with what transpired and thankfully, have forgiven those who caused so much destruction.
Which antidepressant did they have your husband on? If it has been 5 years you would no longer have the legal right to file a wrongful death suit against the antidepressant manufacturer but your children retain that right until 2 years after they turn 21. They need to know if he had been given one of these drugs that he did not make a conscious choice to leave any of you behind. The compulsion to die on these drugs are almost beyond comprehension. And often you are not conscious when you do take your life.
I was in Prison when I read the Book of Mormon. It is true, all of it. After a decade of the darkest sins, joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints allowed me to be forgiven of those sins, and start a new life following Christ. My guilt is gone and I feel the Lords forgiveness always supporting me. I now have been an active member for 17 years and the blessings continue to pour out from heaven. To my gay brother and sisters, I love you, but that love is small in comparison to Heavenly Father's love for you. He has given us the commandments for a wise and glorious purpose. Follow Christ, and after this life marvelous things await us all. Each day I pray I will remain faithful till my mortal journey on Earth ends. I am so happy I have the Lords Church, aka Mormon Church; faithful brothers and sisters who sustain the teachings of Heavenly Father always. This is my testimony, and I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Thank you for taking a stand for our youth! I am mother of three (31 , 28 sons and soon to be 13 yr old daughter, in fact for her birthday I got her tickets for her and I in the pit to see her idol up close at Hershey stadium) It's the second concert I took her to see them band that she had snobed her nose at til the past summer . She lives as an only child despite 2 big brothes who are married. I know that she is exposed to so much including friends of hers declaring their sexuality. I am glad that the generation z has the ability to take on and Express themselves. But I worry about the statics of suicidal rates in this generation z. I am a survivor of PTSD and attemt to take mine when I was trigger into episode of PTSD . I WAS 48 years old ..my heart breaks that our youth would suffer with thoughts that haunted me . I was feeling my age at the Philly concert but I was brought to tears when I watched Dan talk directly to the youth about depression and suicide, that it doesn't matter your what your race , religion, sex, polictial , gender or age ...you are loved and your life counts . My daughter who had made fun of my music was embracing the words the music with smile so big , that my heart swelled ..we dance to their music all nite long . She thank me for playing new CD over and over during my delivery job , I dragged her with all those summer nites. she realized that she knew all lyics by heart and loved singing along , got a good job Mom LoL She has got my number or should I say credit card # , I have spent over $1,000 for her to become huge imagine dragons fan . Well worth it , it made us closer and help me to see that no matter how long you have been a parent , it's still on the job training for life . thank God for those role models to help us inspire our kids See you guys from the front row at Hershey, not in the nose bleed section for the birthday girls lol
Despite his influence as the lead singer of arguably the most prominent American rock band out there right now, I am not sure whether or not he will have the power to have church doctrine changed. HOWEVER, I think he IS setting a GREAT example for ALL of us, both in the church and outside of it, about how our attitudes toward others should NOT be those of judgement or shame... no matter what they believe, or who they love, or how they act. We can agree or disagree, but that should always be done in a tone of love and mutual respect. As an active member of the church, my view on LGBTQ issues has evolved over the years from one of complete opposition to the point NOW where it doesn't matter to me what people believe or how they live. God teaches us, and I believe there is ALWAYS something "virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy" about everyone, and as a result, I seek after those things. Gay people were on this earth LONG before I was born, and they will continue to live on this earth after I am gone. What can I control in my life? I can control how I interact with them, and what we teach our children about how they, and everyone else that lives differently than us, should be treated. In my house, we teach love and respect. I have found in the past few years that the more I reach out the hand of love and mutual respect and friendship to people who believe differently than I do no matter their color, creed, or sexual orientation, the more blessed I am in my life. While LDS leaders haven't changed the doctrine, they have made sure to make it known to the members that the church is no longer a place where it is okay to shame those who think and act differently. I don't believe it ever was, BUT there are plenty of instances where imperfect people made imperfect statements or judgments. Leadership has said multiple times recently that they are aware of this issue, and they continue to pray, and seek revelation and guidance from above when it comes to what is the best thing to do, and I have faith the Lord will guide them in their decision making. As a member of the church who admires Dan not only as a musician, but also as a fellow member of my faith, I respect him for taking a different approach to this. Like he said, anyone can lash out and just walk away from the church. Instead, he appears truly desirous to use his platform to help people, and that is admirable!
Aman Chabra, just like Dan Reynolds, you say this so beautifully, and EVERYONE could learn from your growth and example of how we should all be "Loving one another."
Yes spread love not hate I grew up mormon but always had problems with the church with me felling gulity for every little thing i did and it hurt i felt bad for things thats natural for everyone to do i felt bad for licking bolth boys and girls i felt bad for having sexual erges it hurt but i decided i had enough and i left i don't hate mormons but alot needs to change and they need to exept that everyone has a diffrent path
Wow, you do practice what you preach. I've struggled with my spirituality and this puts things into perspective. My daughter is married to a woman so you can now see how close this is to me. Thank you !!
Sodomy, anal sex, isn't just something gay people do - and a lot don't. Straight people do it, but no one cares when they do. Dumb bigots just hate gay people. Very weird.
I want to quit my job and work for Dan and this cause. I have been a gay advocate my whole life and I am so overcome with emotion. It’s time to begin isn’t it..... I’m never changing who I am. That takes on a whole new meaning here.
What a difficult and brave journey....I as a Christian have struggled with this same situation. I have people in my life who are gay and lesbian. I know what the Bible says about it..but..I also know how much these people mean to me, as friends, and human beings. There is a balance here some place. Like not agreeing, but staying loving! We all sin, and GOD still loves us..and he knows our hearts. Living in guilt and shame is a form of death.. Heart breaking to the core!
Your great. I'm alot like you. No one understands why I dont have a child, though I love children I'm not married. I learned from my Grandmother, Katherine Warfield. She was born 1913 She lived to be 103! Died 2017 she taught me all about love kindness companion. I was born 1977 and still people looked at gay women as "tomboys" it's now 2021. My oldest Niece is gay my other Niece is a girl but is also a boy. Its different and there teaching me so much. Just because there Aunt "me" has lived a different way and had certain beliefs, doesnt mean I haven't grown to learn and understand, I love my them with all of my being. I've BEEN TAUGHT "LOVE" = "HAPPINESS " in the end that's all I care about. ❤
Best of luck with your movie. I truly could've used you with my movie. Now it's bigger then I'm ready for but soon enough. Give it all you've got!! You know where i am. Say hello.
Maybe the suicide is more a result of the conflict created by the CULTURE of America vs Orthodoxy. I.e., would the suicide rate be so high if the TV and social media weren't propagandizing the children? One way of testing this is to investigate the suicide rate within orthodox communities that are not exposed to the broader American media culture, like the Amish, for example.
Everyone seeks connection and to be loved. Mental health difficulties often begin when people are quite young, as a result of trauma and lack of that connection with role models such as parents giving them that secure attachment. People crave that, and seek it in a variety of ways, including through LGBT relationships. There's a piece missing here that's not mentioned in the video. Lack of secure attachment at a young age is related to the mental health issues associated with LGBT. The Mormon church is doing a lot to strive to support this community, offering counselling and leaders and all are invited to attend church. They even made a website showing their support: Mormonandgay.org
He is brilliant! it's so weird how people cling onto what they are 'taught' (which is basically the info they are force fed) even when they see the truth. Instead of saying most religious people are good people, they were just taught that way...etc why don't they see that it is religion itself which entrapped these good people and led them into doing regrettable things such as discrimination and judging others based on mere sexual orientation and stuff. I mean even a guy like him once spread hatred which he deeply regrets now... I know that for most religion is a pillar of their lives, taking it away would destroy them. But what if what you believed were evil all along? the fact is, if a religion promotes discrimination, one cannot compare the good deed vs the damage this religion has done, cos a believe, a religion should take care of everyone, including the 'minorities'. isn't that what God wants? to love everyone, each and every living being? but not gays? come on now..
Was raised Catholic. Everything is shameful. Not Catholic anymore. Thank you for using your position to shine a light on the horrors of suicide and lgtbq.
It will.xhange when the older traditional people all get old and die. The younger kids and people's briefs are different than th old one who are so set in their stubbornness and brainwashing. We have along way to go.
Yeah but if you were a pe d o ? It feels so good to them yet they have guilt? 😂 same goes to serial killers, sometimes guilt in the right place can serve you.
I like the message of stopping shaming and such in the church. But I would remind dan that the church is perfect, the people in it are not. Dan is not asking for simply a policy change. He wants the church to say that homosexuality is not a sin. That is a change in doctrine. The church is built upon the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and modern day revelation. These things came directly from god. Gods law is eternal and unchanging. Gods law does not change because the worlds does. If people disagree with the church by all means it is their right to leave or disagree. However, if you claim to believe in the restoration and the Book of Mormon and all that comes with that, then you have to believe that all of it is true, it is impossible to say that some of it is true and some is not. Including the belief that homosexuality is a sin.
The church is built , as are all of them, on a human desire for power. No, the church is not perfect. None are. What God would declare that to get to "heaven" you must take as many wives as possible? What God would be ok with pedophilia? What God would be ok with beating women into submission? I was born and raised in the Mormon religion but I have never followed blindly. I always have questions and quite frankly, I haven't found any church that could answer them. All of the works you speak of are flawed. Completely. Every single church here is basically s cooperation. It is business. Period. The Mormon church is the single biggest land owner in Florida and they get free labor from the devout serving missions. God or Christ didn't require massive amounts of money, land and malls with rivers running through them. In order to keep the higher ups in the lap of luxury you must instill fear in the lowly followers. Because without the faithful they have nothing. Policy change. That in itself says it all. Religion and policy. Sounds an awful lot like as dictatorship. I wonder, how many people in any religion would answer truthfully if asked if they really believed what they were exposed to. Without another living soul ever knowing their true heart. As far as sin, well, if you go by the bible, which you do, we are all born of incest, in which case you should immediately excommunicate every person here. Whomever a person is born as is ok. Otherwise you would have to admit to divine interference
Stop humanizing God and projecting your own human weaknesses onto God(intolerance, fear of the unknown, man made rules and prejudices). God is not human. God is pure love. If you want a deeper connection with God, it starts by realizing that God is not a man in the clouds.
Jojomaster10 I was s Mormon for years and left the church; only bc I believed the Bible was the truth and only testament of God. I believe that Joseph Smith was an opportunist and led a cult-like movement. However, I believe homosexuality just like any other sin is wrong. I also believe in the scriptures to be true and ALL sin is equal to the Lord. With that said; I also believe ppl have freedom of choice and we are not judges; only God has the last word. I also believe that we should display agape love and love regardless to our views. I believe that Jesus forgives and that is all that matters. We should walk in love and not hide behind religion to make anyone feel less than a person. God is preparing ppl for such a time as this to give unmeritedly his favor for teaching and leading by example and not sin shaming. There is a way to teach with love.
Birdie Bird You have a very valid point. I would say, and I’m not speaking for the Church or for anyone else, that God’s eternal laws never change, and in regards to to the Priesthood, His law is that every worthy male can hold the priesthood through His authority. That Law has never changed, but the timing and condition for it to be instilled can change depending on God’s will. I view it similar to how we are all to live the eternal and higher law that Jesus Christ instilled when He came to the earth, but up until that time only the Law of Moses was instilled under God’s timing, for reasons we may or may not understand. We don’t always understand the reasoning behind the way God times things, but He always does everything for the benefit of His children, even if we are blind as to why.
I’m Mormon and I agree totally with this. Personally, I do not agree with gay marriage. I think these feelings and people’s sexuality, just like we have our addictions or problems that Satan tries to attack, is their struggle in this life. We all have struggles and weaknesses and this is theirs. So to anyone who shames because of this is terribly mistaken and wrong. We should love them and help them through it, having these feelings is okay, it is not BAD or you should not be ashamed to have these feelings. But to act on these feelings is where the “sin” is. Just like if I was addicted to drugs or alcohol, having the want or feeling the need to partake of it is 100% normal. But when I act on that and use it is when I’ve done something that particularly is not right. It annoys the crap out of me that some people shame people that deal with this. Our leaders of the church have instructed to love them. The way I think of it, the Mormon church itself is true and perfect, but the people of it are not. There will be those members who treat others like this and it is not okay. Great job, Dan.
Sorry to burst your bubble but what you just said is exactly what covert shaming in the church is. I tell you that as an ex-mormon gay guy. You cannot equate drinking alcohol and taking drugs to having a relationship with someone of your same sex. I know that is the way you see it because that is the way you have been taught - I once felt the same. As genuine advise, I would tell you that if you really want to show support to "these poor people" as you portray them, refrain from expressing your "views" - just silently send them your love. I tell you this because for many years I heard people say stuff like what you just said and it hurt to the core - being compared to a drug addict or an alcoholic.
Every thing you just said is shaming LGBT people (comparing love to alcochol addiction? Wtf?) playing right into the hate and lies of the Mormon church. Love is not a sin. Never has been.
Reepachepe, these replies to your comment are spot on. After growing up in the church and feeling the EXTREME guilt and shame for having feelings for men and women, I was deeply depressed and wanted to die, even 10 years after leaving the church because it was so ingrained in me. And not until I simply acknowledged, accepted and loved myself as Bisexual 2 years ago did the depression completely go away. I am finally happy and at peace in my marriage with my husband. It was a very rough 20 years of marriage because of the shame and guilt brought on by the church and it's un-knowing straight members. Please just love and ACCEPT us. It is not our choice. GOD made us this way, to teach love.
Reepachepe did you realy just compere sexuality to addiction So basicly im bi becuse im adicted and have some mental problem or its satans falt you sound like my mom and guse what hearing that hurt and made me want to hurt myself and distance myself from my mormon family becuse ik they will never exept my sexuality never exept who i am inside but i will fight i will fight to stay alive and to spread awerness becuse its not sin and not some addiction ok Sorry for my rant im not mad at you i just feel very strongly about this and i wish people would open up there hearts and minds
This guy is very talented. Imagine Dragons is one of the best bands to come down the pike in a long time. I am not sure what he is trying to accomplish. The Mormon Church has standards and doctrines. Those will not change. We teach to show love to everyone. No one is marginalized. Members that do try to change doctrine or the commandments of God will be met with resistance from the Church leadership. Does Dan think we need to change God's laws so that there is no longer such a thing as sin? I think he is sincere but there is right and wrong.
How would you like it if someone told you who your atracted to your whole life was wronh your fellings are wrong and you can never get married or go to the temple that fucking hurts i left the church becuse i knew they wouldn't change there policy and it hurt becuse everyyime i asked god is acting on it a sin everytime i got the same answer no its not a sin and its not why would an all loving god make his children gay or bi or trans then deny them the love that thay need that makes no since to me at all why becuse its not a sin and christ never said one thing about being gay was bad not one thing
I think he is confused about that a little bit. I think he’s saying it’s okay to act on the feelings and I don’t agree with that. It’s God’s rule and law and nobody can change that. But he is right about the shaming, we should help and love. The amount f members that shame should learn that. We all have struggles and this is theirs
Reepachepe "it's God's rule and law" as filtered through Joseph Smith, one of the horniest opportunists America has ever seen. You aren't God, neither was Joseph or were the writers of the bible. They and you are just men.! What You believe is what You believe. You aren't God and don't speak for Him/Her/All That Is/Them. You have very sexist racist delusions of grandeur with your "priesthood."
ScreamingBanchie If you had a priesthood (interesting that authority needs to accompany the word, because in truth all it is is unrighteous dominion) no one would have to "believe" in it. We would all SEE it like on Harry Potter. ;) We all would be hitting you up for healings and blessings that actually worked. You would have time for nothing else! But your priesthood is just an ego trip to flex over women and (before the NAACP threatened lawsuit people of color), gays and those who have larger hearts and minds than the cult they were born into.
You can be mormom without blindly doing everything the profits say everyone has there own thoughts and fellings and its good to challenge things thar you feel is wrong like telling youth that what there feelling is bad and they will never find love that hurts ive gone through it and yes i was suisidel i had enough so i left becuse i could not handle being told every time i went to church that i was a horable person for doing what came natural to me
DarthLindsey He is still very close to his family. In fact, he professes the Mormon(LDS)faith. He calls himself a "unique Mormon"..... When youngsters are rejected by family for any reason, it can result in much misery & often leads to self destructive behavior.
dan is such a beautiful person. so glad hes doing this and cant wait to watch this doc
aly is chilling when does it come out?
steadycracker 7 it premiered at sundance but it wont be public until HBO premieres it in the summer, not sure of the exact day tho!! unfortunatey
aly is chilling ok thanks!
June 25th at 8 pm I think might vary on your region or your TV provider.
also it's not a movie there's a difference between documentaries and movies this is a documentary not movie. movies have characters and are fictional majority of the time and documentaries are based on real life issues and have real live people in them not characters. ;)
Love is beautiful dan ❤ is beautiful and he saved my life.
I love this message, thank you for talking about this.
Thank you Dan !!! I grew up in the church and being gay it's so hard, the emotional damage is wow.. amazing work! Hope your voice will be heard by the whole world and things can change!
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You can still heal and repent to God, as being gay is sin.
I was raised Mormon. I walked away as a young adult because I knew in my heart that the God I knew, was inclusive of all People and judgement and shaming are man made. I was brainwashed into believing that my value was based on how closely I followed the teachings of this gospel. The reality is, organized religions are a club with specific rules and belief systems, like any other club. Adults get to chose if they join a religion. Children are indoctrinated and accepted only as long as they are living the life they are told they should live. When children make choices that do not match up with those teachings, they are shamed, shunned and guilted into submission. Lesson learned: if an organization cannot recognize the beauty in your soul and the love in your heart, they do not deserve you.
Thank you Dan. I love the way that he expresses his beliefs. It's very effective. Thanks for speaking up.
Dan is amazing and he deserves all our love and support
Best man ever!! I am behind you Dan 100%. I am not Morman but I lost my brother who was gay
People would say horrid things to him and about him. He was a most precious soul and I love and accepted every part of his being
He loved animals and his friends and me. We stuck together through thick % thin. I wish I had never moved to Ca. and while living here
is when I got the call about his passing. I have had a very hard time as I blame myself for leaving when clearly he needed me.
Keep using this huge platform that has been granted to you to open the eyes and hearts of all church leaders as well as parents.
LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE. Blessings Deborah carneal/dens/Denchanted
holy hell I’m sobbing like a baby
as a 16 yr old lesbian that was born and raised Mormon, this hit way to close to home. Honestly Mormons are good people with good intentions, and so many of them try to help anyone in any way they can. But they just don’t accept lgbtq+ people and it hurts like a bitch to the kids that are lgbtq+
Thank you Dan for a well thought and expressive dialogue. And thank you also for your passionate work to bring awareness to AS.
He is a good person. I already knew it, but it's getting more and more confirmed by these kinds of videos
What a beautiful person
Dan is so articulate 😍
We need this movie
Can not believe some people gave a thumps down. Dan is awesome .
Yes! It has to be talked about! My Mormon husband also took his life. Too much shaming.
YounoHou I am so deeply sorry to hear. I’m so glad you’re staying strong, and continuing to fight for a place for people like him to go to when things are rough. If you ever need support, I (and the community) will be here for you
Toasty thank you. Myself a d children are in a much better place now. It's been 5 years. We've come to terms with what transpired and thankfully, have forgiven those who caused so much destruction.
awww sorry to hear that..
Which antidepressant did they have your husband on? If it has been 5 years you would no longer have the legal right to file a wrongful death suit against the antidepressant manufacturer but your children retain that right until 2 years after they turn 21. They need to know if he had been given one of these drugs that he did not make a conscious choice to leave any of you behind. The compulsion to die on these drugs are almost beyond comprehension. And often you are not conscious when you do take your life.
Beautiful. Love includes "accepting"... the guilt and shaming HAS to end. "EACH and EVERY ONE of us have infinite worth from birth."
I was in Prison when I read the Book of Mormon. It is true, all of it. After a decade of the darkest sins, joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints allowed me to be forgiven of those sins, and start a new life following Christ. My guilt is gone and I feel the Lords forgiveness always supporting me. I now have been an active member for 17 years and the blessings continue to pour out from heaven. To my gay brother and sisters, I love you, but that love is small in comparison to Heavenly Father's love for you. He has given us the commandments for a wise and glorious purpose. Follow Christ, and after this life marvelous things await us all. Each day I pray I will remain faithful till my mortal journey on Earth ends. I am so happy I have the Lords Church, aka Mormon Church; faithful brothers and sisters who sustain the teachings of Heavenly Father always. This is my testimony, and I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Thank you for taking a stand for our youth!
I am mother of three (31 , 28 sons and soon to be 13 yr old daughter, in fact for her birthday I got her tickets for her and I in the pit to see her idol up close at Hershey stadium)
It's the second concert I took her to see them band that she had snobed her nose at til the past summer . She lives as an only child despite 2 big brothes who are married. I know that she is exposed to so much including friends of hers declaring their sexuality. I am glad that the generation z has the ability to take on and Express themselves. But I worry about the statics of suicidal rates in this generation z. I am a survivor of PTSD and attemt to take mine when I was trigger into episode of PTSD . I WAS 48 years old ..my heart breaks that our youth would suffer with thoughts that haunted me . I was feeling my age at the Philly concert but I was brought to tears when I watched Dan talk directly to the youth about depression and suicide, that it doesn't matter your what your race , religion, sex, polictial , gender or age ...you are loved and your life counts . My daughter who had made fun of my music was embracing the words the music with smile so big , that my heart swelled ..we dance to their music all nite long . She thank me for playing new CD over and over during my delivery job , I dragged her with all those summer nites. she realized that she knew all lyics by heart and loved singing along , got a good job Mom LoL
She has got my number or should I say credit card # , I have spent over $1,000 for her to become huge imagine dragons fan . Well worth it , it made us closer and help me to see that no matter how long you have been a parent , it's still on the job training for life . thank God for those role models to help us inspire our kids
See you guys from the front row at Hershey, not in the nose bleed section for the birthday girls lol
Despite his influence as the lead singer of arguably the most prominent American rock band out there right now, I am not sure whether or not he will have the power to have church doctrine changed. HOWEVER, I think he IS setting a GREAT example for ALL of us, both in the church and outside of it, about how our attitudes toward others should NOT be those of judgement or shame... no matter what they believe, or who they love, or how they act. We can agree or disagree, but that should always be done in a tone of love and mutual respect.
As an active member of the church, my view on LGBTQ issues has evolved over the years from one of complete opposition to the point NOW where it doesn't matter to me what people believe or how they live. God teaches us, and I believe there is ALWAYS something "virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy" about everyone, and as a result, I seek after those things.
Gay people were on this earth LONG before I was born, and they will continue to live on this earth after I am gone. What can I control in my life? I can control how I interact with them, and what we teach our children about how they, and everyone else that lives differently than us, should be treated. In my house, we teach love and respect.
I have found in the past few years that the more I reach out the hand of love and mutual respect and friendship to people who believe differently than I do no matter their color, creed, or sexual orientation, the more blessed I am in my life.
While LDS leaders haven't changed the doctrine, they have made sure to make it known to the members that the church is no longer a place where it is okay to shame those who think and act differently. I don't believe it ever was, BUT there are plenty of instances where imperfect people made imperfect statements or judgments. Leadership has said multiple times recently that they are aware of this issue, and they continue to pray, and seek revelation and guidance from above when it comes to what is the best thing to do, and I have faith the Lord will guide them in their decision making.
As a member of the church who admires Dan not only as a musician, but also as a fellow member of my faith, I respect him for taking a different approach to this. Like he said, anyone can lash out and just walk away from the church. Instead, he appears truly desirous to use his platform to help people, and that is admirable!
Aman Chabra, just like Dan Reynolds, you say this so beautifully, and EVERYONE could learn from your growth and example of how we should all be "Loving one another."
Yes spread love not hate
I grew up mormon but always had problems with the church with me felling gulity for every little thing i did and it hurt i felt bad for things thats natural for everyone to do i felt bad for licking bolth boys and girls i felt bad for having sexual erges it hurt but i decided i had enough and i left i don't hate mormons but alot needs to change and they need to exept that everyone has a diffrent path
Aman Chabra Bravo! Well said! 👏🏻
I love how he's taking his fame and turning it into something good.
I know that he can totally do what he is trying to do. Go Dan!! You are already doing it. Keep going buddy.
Makes me love Imagine Dragons even more. Mormons do raise very talented people, got to give them that.
Yeah they really do. Lots of talent, money and successful people in the Mormon Church. With every bad there are things done right as well.
Wow, you do practice what you preach. I've struggled with my spirituality and this puts things into perspective. My daughter is married to a woman so you can now see how close this is to me. Thank you !!
Humiliating people is a sin😕
Loralyn F. So is sodomy.
apound11 haha
Sodomy, anal sex, isn't just something gay people do - and a lot don't. Straight people do it, but no one cares when they do. Dumb bigots just hate gay people. Very weird.
@@apound11 if you think that's a sin then you should be educating them, not shaming them
The 93 people who disliked this are very hatefull and closeminded people dan is an amazing person that inspired me to not hide who i am inside
Ironic - the one thing that the Mormon church fears the most is to be shamed in front of the whole world ... What you are doing is amazing, Dan.
Well said!
Good for you! There needs to be members of the Mormon church who stay and try to change the policies from within.
When is the film being released? If it has, where can I get it? I'd like to share it and help spread the message.
I want to quit my job and work for Dan and this cause. I have been a gay advocate my whole life and I am so overcome with emotion. It’s time to begin isn’t it..... I’m never changing who I am. That takes on a whole new meaning here.
What a difficult and brave journey....I as a Christian have struggled with this same situation. I have people in my life who are gay and lesbian. I know what the Bible says about it..but..I also know how much these people mean to me, as friends, and human beings. There is a balance here some place. Like not agreeing, but staying loving! We all sin, and GOD still loves us..and he knows our hearts. Living in guilt and shame is a form of death.. Heart breaking to the core!
I am. That's why I have full & enriched life.
Good luck with all of that
Jeff Bridges Matthew 7.
John 13:34
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Your great. I'm alot like you. No one understands why I dont have a child, though I love children I'm not married. I learned from my Grandmother, Katherine Warfield. She was born 1913 She lived to be 103! Died 2017 she taught me all about love kindness companion. I was born 1977 and still people looked at gay women as "tomboys" it's now 2021. My oldest Niece is gay my other Niece is a girl but is also a boy. Its different and there teaching me so much. Just because there Aunt "me" has lived a different way and had certain beliefs, doesnt mean I haven't grown to learn and understand, I love my them with all of my being. I've BEEN TAUGHT "LOVE" = "HAPPINESS " in the end that's all I care about. ❤
Yes it's true
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where can I watch his film?
this person is 3 things cute, a great singer and a wise man he is right though this is not ok
Best of luck with your movie. I truly could've used you with my movie. Now it's bigger then I'm ready for but soon enough. Give it all you've got!! You know where i am. Say hello.
My dad is the only one I'm accepting. Nothing less then him and his son. You were my buddy/partner. Now I have Elmer Fudd.
Maybe the suicide is more a result of the conflict created by the CULTURE of America vs Orthodoxy. I.e., would the suicide rate be so high if the TV and social media weren't propagandizing the children?
One way of testing this is to investigate the suicide rate within orthodox communities that are not exposed to the broader American media culture, like the Amish, for example.
Everyone seeks connection and to be loved. Mental health difficulties often begin when people are quite young, as a result of trauma and lack of that connection with role models such as parents giving them that secure attachment. People crave that, and seek it in a variety of ways, including through LGBT relationships. There's a piece missing here that's not mentioned in the video. Lack of secure attachment at a young age is related to the mental health issues associated with LGBT. The Mormon church is doing a lot to strive to support this community, offering counselling and leaders and all are invited to attend church. They even made a website showing their support:
Mormonandgay.org
how many ppl had sex after all😂😂
Me and my friend Keylin suffers from depression and she is bisexual
He is brilliant!
it's so weird how people cling onto what they are 'taught' (which is basically the info they are force fed) even when they see the truth. Instead of saying most religious people are good people, they were just taught that way...etc why don't they see that it is religion itself which entrapped these good people and led them into doing regrettable things such as discrimination and judging others based on mere sexual orientation and stuff.
I mean even a guy like him once spread hatred which he deeply regrets now...
I know that for most religion is a pillar of their lives, taking it away would destroy them. But what if what you believed were evil all along? the fact is, if a religion promotes discrimination, one cannot compare the good deed vs the damage this religion has done, cos a believe, a religion should take care of everyone, including the 'minorities'.
isn't that what God wants? to love everyone, each and every living being? but not gays? come on now..
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Gente cadê os BR????????
Só eu que estou aqui sem entender nada que eles estão falando?
Was raised Catholic. Everything is shameful. Not Catholic anymore. Thank you for using your position to shine a light on the horrors of suicide and lgtbq.
Religion no 🤦🏼♀️ ! Jesus yes👏🏻🙌🏻 !
Exactly why I am atheist.
Jo Pfetsch me too
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Serial fornacation is just a lil sin, lol - can't wait for the movie!
If you can't spell the ride you aren't old enough to take the ride. Otherwise humans were created as sexual beings.
It will.xhange when the older traditional people all get old and die. The younger kids and people's briefs are different than th old one who are so set in their stubbornness and brainwashing. We have along way to go.
Yeah but if you were a pe d o ? It feels so good to them yet they have guilt? 😂 same goes to serial killers, sometimes guilt in the right place can serve you.
The heck you compare loving someone with killing someone what kind of a twisted mind is that.
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I like the message of stopping shaming and such in the church. But I would remind dan that the church is perfect, the people in it are not. Dan is not asking for simply a policy change. He wants the church to say that homosexuality is not a sin. That is a change in doctrine. The church is built upon the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and modern day revelation. These things came directly from god. Gods law is eternal and unchanging. Gods law does not change because the worlds does. If people disagree with the church by all means it is their right to leave or disagree. However, if you claim to believe in the restoration and the Book of Mormon and all that comes with that, then you have to believe that all of it is true, it is impossible to say that some of it is true and some is not. Including the belief that homosexuality is a sin.
The church is built , as are all of them, on a human desire for power. No, the church is not perfect. None are. What God would declare that to get to "heaven" you must take as many wives as possible? What God would be ok with pedophilia? What God would be ok with beating women into submission? I was born and raised in the Mormon religion but I have never followed blindly. I always have questions and quite frankly, I haven't found any church that could answer them. All of the works you speak of are flawed. Completely. Every single church here is basically s cooperation. It is business. Period. The Mormon church is the single biggest land owner in Florida and they get free labor from the devout serving missions. God or Christ didn't require massive amounts of money, land and malls with rivers running through them. In order to keep the higher ups in the lap of luxury you must instill fear in the lowly followers. Because without the faithful they have nothing. Policy change. That in itself says it all. Religion and policy. Sounds an awful lot like as dictatorship. I wonder, how many people in any religion would answer truthfully if asked if they really believed what they were exposed to. Without another living soul ever knowing their true heart. As far as sin, well, if you go by the bible, which you do, we are all born of incest, in which case you should immediately excommunicate every person here. Whomever a person is born as is ok. Otherwise you would have to admit to divine interference
Stop humanizing God and projecting your own human weaknesses onto God(intolerance, fear of the unknown, man made rules and prejudices). God is not human. God is pure love. If you want a deeper connection with God, it starts by realizing that God is not a man in the clouds.
Jojomaster10 I was s Mormon for years and left the church; only bc I believed the Bible was the truth and only testament of God. I believe that Joseph Smith was an opportunist and led a cult-like movement. However, I believe homosexuality just like any other sin is wrong. I also believe in the scriptures to be true and ALL sin is equal to the Lord. With that said; I also believe ppl have freedom of choice and we are not judges; only God has the last word. I also believe that we should display agape love and love regardless to our views. I believe that Jesus forgives and that is all that matters. We should walk in love and not hide behind religion to make anyone feel less than a person. God is preparing ppl for such a time as this to give unmeritedly his favor for teaching and leading by example and not sin shaming. There is a way to teach with love.
He ended up leaving because nothing can be done about that cult. They blame and shame.
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8:17 mark...
Raise the BS flag
Dustin Merritt can one not disagree with another's opinion and do whatever they can to right something they feel is wrong without attacking?
Katrina Kae My point exactly. Yes. You can. And Dan isn't. He is bitter and attacking.
#mormonsquad
Shame is not from God. I’m an active and happy Mormon. I hope that we can all love one another unconditionally. God’s laws don’t change.
Jacob Andersen except for 1978 when blacks were allowed to have the proesthood
Birdie Bird
You have a very valid point. I would say, and I’m not speaking for the Church or for anyone else, that God’s eternal laws never change, and in regards to to the Priesthood, His law is that every worthy male can hold the priesthood through His authority. That Law has never changed, but the timing and condition for it to be instilled can change depending on God’s will. I view it similar to how we are all to live the eternal and higher law that Jesus Christ instilled when He came to the earth, but up until that time only the Law of Moses was instilled under God’s timing, for reasons we may or may not understand. We don’t always understand the reasoning behind the way God times things, but He always does everything for the benefit of His children, even if we are blind as to why.
If god made people gay and denied them the love they need then i see god as a bad unloving god but hes not so being gay and acting on it cant be a sin
I'm Mormon
I’m Mormon and I agree totally with this. Personally, I do not agree with gay marriage. I think these feelings and people’s sexuality, just like we have our addictions or problems that Satan tries to attack, is their struggle in this life. We all have struggles and weaknesses and this is theirs. So to anyone who shames because of this is terribly mistaken and wrong. We should love them and help them through it, having these feelings is okay, it is not BAD or you should not be ashamed to have these feelings. But to act on these feelings is where the “sin” is. Just like if I was addicted to drugs or alcohol, having the want or feeling the need to partake of it is 100% normal. But when I act on that and use it is when I’ve done something that particularly is not right. It annoys the crap out of me that some people shame people that deal with this. Our leaders of the church have instructed to love them. The way I think of it, the Mormon church itself is true and perfect, but the people of it are not. There will be those members who treat others like this and it is not okay. Great job, Dan.
Sorry to burst your bubble but what you just said is exactly what covert shaming in the church is. I tell you that as an ex-mormon gay guy. You cannot equate drinking alcohol and taking drugs to having a relationship with someone of your same sex. I know that is the way you see it because that is the way you have been taught - I once felt the same. As genuine advise, I would tell you that if you really want to show support to "these poor people" as you portray them, refrain from expressing your "views" - just silently send them your love. I tell you this because for many years I heard people say stuff like what you just said and it hurt to the core - being compared to a drug addict or an alcoholic.
Every thing you just said is shaming LGBT people (comparing love to alcochol addiction? Wtf?) playing right into the hate and lies of the Mormon church. Love is not a sin. Never has been.
Reepachepe, these replies to your comment are spot on. After growing up in the church and feeling the EXTREME guilt and shame for having feelings for men and women, I was deeply depressed and wanted to die, even 10 years after leaving the church because it was so ingrained in me. And not until I simply acknowledged, accepted and loved myself as Bisexual 2 years ago did the depression completely go away. I am finally happy and at peace in my marriage with my husband. It was a very rough 20 years of marriage because of the shame and guilt brought on by the church and it's un-knowing straight members. Please just love and ACCEPT us. It is not our choice. GOD made us this way, to teach love.
Reepachepe did you realy just compere sexuality to addiction
So basicly im bi becuse im adicted and have some mental problem or its satans falt you sound like my mom and guse what hearing that hurt and made me want to hurt myself and distance myself from my mormon family becuse ik they will never exept my sexuality never exept who i am inside but i will fight i will fight to stay alive and to spread awerness becuse its not sin and not some addiction ok
Sorry for my rant im not mad at you i just feel very strongly about this and i wish people would open up there hearts and minds
This guy is very talented. Imagine Dragons is one of the best bands to come down the pike in a long time. I am not sure what he is trying to accomplish. The Mormon Church has standards and doctrines. Those will not change. We teach to show love to everyone. No one is marginalized. Members that do try to change doctrine or the commandments of God will be met with resistance from the Church leadership. Does Dan think we need to change God's laws so that there is no longer such a thing as sin? I think he is sincere but there is right and wrong.
It's wrong to demonize gay people and to call their lives sinful. It's inhumane actually. Go you tho. Good luck.
Raymond I think he has guilt for being a mormon.
I also think he's trying to use his podium to change an entire religion. Very dumb idea. You're either Mormon, or you're not.
How would you like it if someone told you who your atracted to your whole life was wronh your fellings are wrong and you can never get married or go to the temple that fucking hurts i left the church becuse i knew they wouldn't change there policy and it hurt becuse everyyime i asked god is acting on it a sin everytime i got the same answer no its not a sin and its not why would an all loving god make his children gay or bi or trans then deny them the love that thay need that makes no since to me at all why becuse its not a sin and christ never said one thing about being gay was bad not one thing
Raymond also members who challage docterene usaly get excommunicated for simpaly saying hay this needs to change thats not ok
Do you even believe in priesthood authority?
I think He's confused about a few things.
Well put my man. I'm a priest in my ward
I think he is confused about that a little bit. I think he’s saying it’s okay to act on the feelings and I don’t agree with that. It’s God’s rule and law and nobody can change that. But he is right about the shaming, we should help and love. The amount f members that shame should learn that. We all have struggles and this is theirs
Reepachepe "it's God's rule and law" as filtered through Joseph Smith, one of the horniest opportunists America has ever seen. You aren't God, neither was Joseph or were the writers of the bible. They and you are just men.! What You believe is what You believe. You aren't God and don't speak for Him/Her/All That Is/Them. You have very sexist racist delusions of grandeur with your "priesthood."
ScreamingBanchie If you had a priesthood (interesting that authority needs to accompany the word, because in truth all it is is unrighteous dominion) no one would have to "believe" in it. We would all SEE it like on Harry Potter. ;) We all would be hitting you up for healings and blessings that actually worked. You would have time for nothing else! But your priesthood is just an ego trip to flex over women and (before the NAACP threatened lawsuit people of color), gays and those who have larger hearts and minds than the cult they were born into.
You can be mormom without blindly doing everything the profits say everyone has there own thoughts and fellings and its good to challenge things thar you feel is wrong like telling youth that what there feelling is bad and they will never find love that hurts ive gone through it and yes i was suisidel i had enough so i left becuse i could not handle being told every time i went to church that i was a horable person for doing what came natural to me
Being gay is a choice. Enough said.
BlazeTBD actually it’s not, and if you believe it is you need to educate yourself.
Congratulations choosing fame over your family. I can't lie, I'd do it too.
DarthLindsey He is still very close to his family. In fact, he professes the Mormon(LDS)faith. He calls himself a "unique Mormon".....
When youngsters are rejected by family for any reason, it can result in much misery & often leads to self destructive behavior.
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