Yaesu ATAS 120 Review

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  • Today I will go over what I think of the ATAS 120A. I will also show you a new to me way for setting it up.
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  • @donausmus4281
    @donausmus4281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use an ATAS in my mobile Ram 2500. It does require a lot grounding. I used 25 grounding straps bonding all body panels to panels and frame. The antenna is on the left front and the strongest signal is the direction of the the rear right of the truck, which is the direction of the most metal. I get very good signal reports, some not believing I'm a mobile. I'll be trying the ground mount now.

  • @furball5553
    @furball5553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Best atas 120 video on tube great stuff thanks 😊

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, thanks! And thank you for watching!!

  • @robertvarner9519
    @robertvarner9519 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video. I may try my hand with this antenna and tripod. Have some ideas of my own but that's what we hams are supposed to do...experiment.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go for it! I agree completely. What works for you might not work for me and likewise. Playing with antennas is certainly one of my favorite things today do

  • @VeteransHamShack
    @VeteransHamShack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Justin found your channel the other day, subbed. Good review on the ATAS 120. I have an FT-857D, got it about 10 years ago and used to use it as my portable rig with my Buddistick when I was in the Navy stationed in San Diego. Its been boxed up for several years but I've been considering installing it in my Wrangler for mobile. I've looked at this antenna before, after your review I'm not so sure about it haha. Also the Wrangler has limited places to mount that antenna mostly because the top is removable (and fiberglass). Also, although the FT-857D is one of the radios it is designed for, it does not have an internal tuner. I have the LDG YT-100 external tuner that is powered by the radio, but that just adds some hassel to the radio installation, imo. I lived many years just up the road from you in Raleigh, I'm in Kentucky now, back in my hometown. Congrats on your 512 subs and hoping you get to 5000! I've just started my channel, mostly as a side hobby.
    Anyway, I'll be checking out the rest of your content 73, Jeremy KF4CHW

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for subscribing. I like my ATAS but it is certainly not the end all beat all. Band for the buck though I would put it against most. I have seen some pretty cool mounting ideas for it on Wrangles. Check out The Tech Prepper and look at his. Thanks aging for the follow.

    • @VeteransHamShack
      @VeteransHamShack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Blackabeard I've watched some of his videos before, i'll check out the Wrangler install! Thanks

  • @berniemoxey462
    @berniemoxey462 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the same setup, ft891 and the atas120a on my truck. That tripod looks interesting.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s proving to be a neat little party trick.

  • @vironpayne3405
    @vironpayne3405 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen a mod where you replace the stainless whip with a longer stainless whip to get 80m. Obviously you wouldn't want to try that mobile, but for portable operations it's sounds like a great idea.
    The coil has wide winding areas for where the antenna expects to tune with the stock whip, so I imagine to make the longer whip work exceptionally well you would want to optimize its length. Hopefully without too much trial and error.
    Today was going to be my first day using my ATAS-120A for QRP at the park. I brought a set of 4 counterpoise wires at 25ft, a 6in did magmount, and a baking sheet. The plan was to lay the baking sheet on a cast iron BBQ grill, put the antenna on the magmount on the baking sheet, and attach the 4 counterpoise wires.
    I brought everything except the antenna. 😂
    I had a 10m push-up pole and a couple of dipoles I had cut for 10m and 15m, so life was still good.
    I suspect that between the BBQ grill, baking sheet, and counterpoise wires I would have had a workable antenna, but certainly not the best for QRP.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man I love innovation! Sounds like it should work for sure. May I cautious about using the longer whip with my ATAS because of having to drill out the hole. I have heard of it being done but not sure that’s how I want to use it. Well at least while it is under warranty. Thanks for watching.

  • @ae4xo
    @ae4xo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep. Flip it . Just got that tripod too. I plan to Take it to Olympic park in Atlanta soon

  • @TheM0ano
    @TheM0ano 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you also use the manual up and down,and have it on the front screen on your ft 891 you can find tune the atas that will often get the swr down to a much better level

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I need to try that more. I have only done it once and it didn’t make much of a difference. I’m sure now that I know pre about it I can get it much better. Thanks for the reminder and thanks for watching.

  • @KeepEvery1Guessing
    @KeepEvery1Guessing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You might try 4 or 8 pieces of wire as radials for 40m. The magic carpet is great for quick deployment, but it's a bit small for 40m (at least on fairly dry ground). I guess the other thing worth trying would be two screens side by side, both connected to the antenna ground. It would increase both the capacitance of the bulk material and the capacative coupling to the ground. The later likely being the larger effect, and why soil moisture matters.
    I've got a previous version of that tripod, which is only different in that there is no provision for connecting grounds. I've thought about making a collar to thread on under the ATAS that has banana jack sized holes in the rim, but there isn't much room under the ATAS, so it would have to be awfully thin. Still, I'll figure oot something to try when the New Hampshire weather gets good enough to entice an old man outdoors.
    I guess that your little beard is blacker than mine (all grey now). Mine still has room to grow. It will take about another inch to reach my navel.
    73, Bill - KE1G

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I plan on making some radials to try with it to. I just hate having to put them out. I made some for my HWEF and it made no difference. So maybe I can use the same set for this and have better results! Thanks for the suggestion and I’ll be sure to post it once I get around to trying it.

  • @1kc1981
    @1kc1981 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello from Scotland. You can change the whip part for a longer one. It will still work and might tune better

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am trying to decide if it’s something I want to do. From what I can tell I would have to drill out the insert spot to make it work. Not sure if it is something I want to do. Thanks for watching.

    • @phils2180
      @phils2180 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I use a longer whip of 3mm stainless and yes, you have to drill out the top but it's easily done. Obviously using a longer whip lowers the frequency it will tune up to. The standard whip is 90cm. A 170cm whip will tune up to 35mhz so can still tune the 10m and lower bands. I've seen it make 1 - 2 S points difference vs the standard whip on receive. I've also noticed it seems to tune easier and doesn't get "confused" like it used to do!😂 The only "problem" is a 3mm whip that long is only really suitable for static use due to the amount of flex and wind loading. Going to 4mm would decrease flex but would be too much weight for the tuning mechanism IMO.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats great to hear. I am still thinking it over but with what you said I worry about it while I drive. Thats why I like the ATAS so much. I am not sure if I am willing to risk using it while I drive just for 75 meters. I have a ham stick for it. maybe one day. Thanks for watching.

  • @RW-ce8kp
    @RW-ce8kp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video.. So are you getting 40-6 meter full coverage using the mesh screen and the tripod? I have a spare ATAS 100. Might try this idea. 73, AE4X

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure yet. I haven't tried it on 6 at all. But other than that yes. Thanks for watcing.

  • @williamcarter5597
    @williamcarter5597 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using ATAS on my car. CW mobile ONLY! No mic in the car. Managed Atlanta to France 599 two days in a row. Yes, need to bond car well. I also have an 80M Tarheel that I had on my truck. Car would tip over or I need a trailer hitch added for that antenna. On a serious note, if I can hear a POTA Station, I can work them. Nice mobile antenna. Yes, I know, everything is a compromise. 73 Bill KG4FXG

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching. I was torn between the Tarheel and the Atas. But what sold me was the size and capabilities verse the cost. I love mine. And a CW to France is awesome congrats! Hope to catch you down the log my friend.

  • @remiteach2542
    @remiteach2542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super film

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. And thanks for watching.

  • @JoelRazon
    @JoelRazon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sorry late to the party, just found your channel, have you tried attaching a ground rod to the magic carpet? or for this set up longer ground radials approx quarter wave for 40m.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have not tried the ground rod yet. How long of one are you using? I mean more grounding mean better antenna so I’m going to give it a go. Thanks for watching.

    • @slackleashdogtraining3598
      @slackleashdogtraining3598 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What is “Magic Carpet”?

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@slackleashdogtraining3598 The Magic Carpet is wire window screen.
      www.homedepot.com/p/Phifer-36-in-x-84-in-Brite-Aluminum-Screen-Roll-3000043/100390092

  • @henrikfredskild3803
    @henrikfredskild3803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, when tuning on 10m you search for an ongoing QSO, and try tuning on top of it. I am fully aware that tuning is done with low power, but wit the ATAS it takes more than just a few seconds.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      First let me say thank you for watching the video. Secondly let me say that you don't have to be condescending. I have tested the ATAS 120A with a friend who is less than 2 miles from me. It not only tunes at less than 10 watts, but also on the carrier. You put those two together and you can't hear it on SSB. We have tested that theory that lots of others have had and we all have had the same results. The ATAS can't be heard on the operating frequency. I agree the better practice is to tune off the ongoing QSO and I do with all my other rigs and antennas. I hope you can find joy in your day. con

    • @donausmus4281
      @donausmus4281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Blackabeard it's amazing what a little research would have done for his condescension. I love my ATAS (2).

  • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
    @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow so I couldn't just pop it on thr deck and make it work...

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well it will work. But the more metal around it the better. It does need a ground plain of some sort. Either radials or the magic carpet are the most used. But I have just plopped it down in my side yard and made contacts. So it worked. If i can help with anything just let me know. I am down to try most things.

    • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
      @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Blackabeard I'm considering it or a wolf river coils mega

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 I have a few friends that have the WRC and th like them. The main difference is automated or manual extending the whip. here are some base measurements should you go that route.
      20M =210" =204"
      17M =162" =159"
      ISM = 140% = 1340
      12M =118» =120"
      10M =105" =101"
      Again If you are not using a Yaesu rig that has the ATAS interface then you will have to buy the program box for it. If your radio will do the ATAS then all you do Is press the tune button. Both are great options. One you can use it mobile and well not so much with the other. One note on the WRC, all my friends that have verticals with loading coils use radials to increase their ground plain. Not mandatory but it does help.

    • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
      @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Blackabeard I have a yaesu Ft-710 so atas would work idk how I'd mount it and I hear they require mad grounding

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 Mine is grounded with a 16 gauge speaker wire to my frame. So sure if that is a lot or not, but certainly more than your deck would provide. I also not sure if you can go wrong either way. You can always do a redneck grounding wire. You make a ground wire that screws on to your antenna and the other end you wire a house plug to it making the ground wire the only connection. Then plug it in. Not a suggestion but an options I have heard of in peoples shacks. If you don't want to use ti mobile then the WRC would be my decision for sure.

  • @bradleyruhberg8626
    @bradleyruhberg8626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video/product review. What’s the SWR on 40 when it’s mounted on the Truck? I use this setup with my Wolf River Coil and get a SWR just about 1:6.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1:1.6-2 or so. Under 1:2 or at it. I’m adding more grounding and binding this week to trip and improve its receive and the SWR.

    • @bradleyruhberg8626
      @bradleyruhberg8626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Again thanks for the video I think I’ll add the Tripod to my POTA kit. 73

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s why I got it too. All the best

  • @donausmus4281
    @donausmus4281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use an ATAS in my mobile Ram 2500. It does require a lot grounding. I used 25 grounding straps bonding all body panels to panels and frame. The antenna is on the left front and the strongest signal is the direction of the the rear right of the truck, which is the direction of the most metal. I get very good signal reports, some not believing I'm a mobile. I'll be trying out the ground mount now.

    • @Blackabeard
      @Blackabeard  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s great to hear. I love the mounting and I still need to do my bonding. I have the strap I just have not taken the time to do it yet. But you’re making me want to do it sooner than later. Thanks for watching!