Ah geez man... Like... If Tectone, the bully angry dude starts with "I'm not gonna talk to you like a person" essentially because he's pissed... Why even entertain it at the moment? If someone won't approach you honestly to talk out stuff it won't be worth it. They'll not be in the right mind to genuinely get to the root, and I think you see it here kind of. If there's one big thing that I think Tectone seemingly hasn't worked on it's genuine self reflection and empathetic treatment of how you talk and try to get your point across. I also wanna point too that Tectone has done exactly what Tash was pointing out about him pushing thing when Hex was upset, and just wanted to drop it. Back in Genshin with whatever a creator said about Zhongli. The guy wanted to drop it realizing that tectone literally wouldn't listen to his points because it just wasn't getting through, and said lets move on; agree to disagree. Tec felt the need to just keep pushing when the other person could see it was like talking to a wall.
at least tashed takes some responsibility and admits some fault. Its okay to mess up techy, its okay to regret some things even if you arent overal completely wrong. Learn how to talk like an adult rather than just talk over people and go "show me show me". Its pretty cringey
Mtashed had valid points but sloppy delivery, Tectone is always going to think hes right so he shouldve come prepared for that. End of the day I don't know either of them but Tectone arguing live with 3 "Friends" in a week (Vtuber, Smack, and Tashed) shows me that there is one common factor and some self reflecting needs to be done. As for Mtashed im glad he called him out but not for the right things and just kinda made himself a blacklisted CC in terms of who will want to talk to him after this. Sucks to see.
Tash had no business sticking his nose in that situation. He was in the wrong absolutely. He was 100% farming content and trying to virtue signal. Tash hated Hex in the past, attacked her for her not agreeing with his stance on Atsu, and was never her friend. Now all the sudden he wants to white knight for her? Dude is in a bad place mentally after WuWa and ZZZ not being the games he wanted them to be. He's burned out and needs to just step back for a couple months. Cause he lashed out and had no idea what he was doing.
When Tectone's arguing with someone, he'll immediately turn on his "debate bro" mode, even to his friends. That is really frustrating to watch, honestly. They're your friends, bro. They didn't come to this argument to dunk on you, so why tf are you so desperate to dunk on them? You should trust to them more and try to see it from their perspective. This should just be a conversation, not a debate. You come to a conversation to understand someone, not to score a win against them.
@@nestword5654except he didn't want this conversation. He said "I'm good, ill cease communication and delete all videos with mtashed." To which tash responded while watching "ok so that's in then. He doesn't wanna talk cause he knows he'll lose." Tash literally forced him into this debate and was the only one who mentioned winning and losing.
@@chriscrocker3976 He wasn't "white knighting" Hex, he was as you said frustrated after WuWa and ZZZ not being as he intended, was in a bad mental state, was fed up with the flaws he constantly saw in Tectone's demeanor, and at a time when he was at his boiling point, the drama between Tec and Hex happened. He was reminded of the characteristics Tec portrayed to others including him in the past and saw this opportunity to vent all of his frustrations once and for all. Yes. Tash absolutely had no business sticking his nose between the drama between Hex and Tectone, he even admits that. But this ultimately was never about Hex, it was him confessing his pent up bitterness. Any other motivations regarding Hex are rendered mute at the face of his actual intentions. Also blindly claiming his actions as him virtue signalling is also not correct. He knew this was going to do irreversible harm to his brand online, and that this ultimately was going to cause the majority of the community to be against him. As the definition goes, he wasn't aiming to "demonstrate his good character." He knows how arguments with Tectone usually go. He did this for him. At the end of the debacle, he knew it was a losing battle, but he said he still felt a weight of his shoulders. At the end was Mtashed ultimately in the wrong here, and Tectone overall in the right. Very possibly. But blinding accusing him as "white knighting" as "virtue signalling" is disingenuous.
@@nestword5654 Tectone said at the very beginning that he's not going to hold back because he's pissed and he asked Mtashed if he wants to continue despite this. Mtashed said yes so that's that. "Debate mode" is justified imo.
I definitely see both view points. Mtashed took things too far but Tectone definitely could have handled the situation a lot better. There are no winners in this situation both took a big L today.
Mtash is a fucking snake lol. As much as I hate a lot of Tectone’s takes and believe this guy is full of it sometimes, Mtash was dead wrong, and with friends like Mtash who needs enemies. Mtash backstabbing game is on point.
I wouldn’t say he’s a snake. He was definitely beyond frustrated at how Tectone always starts shit with his friends and him seeing it again with Hex just triggered him beyond boiling point. Sad to see since I love them both. I will continue to watch them both, but man this is so sad man…
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Ah geez man... Like... If Tectone, the bully angry dude starts with "I'm not gonna talk to you like a person" essentially because he's pissed... Why even entertain it at the moment? If someone won't approach you honestly to talk out stuff it won't be worth it. They'll not be in the right mind to genuinely get to the root, and I think you see it here kind of. If there's one big thing that I think Tectone seemingly hasn't worked on it's genuine self reflection and empathetic treatment of how you talk and try to get your point across.
I also wanna point too that Tectone has done exactly what Tash was pointing out about him pushing thing when Hex was upset, and just wanted to drop it. Back in Genshin with whatever a creator said about Zhongli. The guy wanted to drop it realizing that tectone literally wouldn't listen to his points because it just wasn't getting through, and said lets move on; agree to disagree. Tec felt the need to just keep pushing when the other person could see it was like talking to a wall.
at least tashed takes some responsibility and admits some fault. Its okay to mess up techy, its okay to regret some things even if you arent overal completely wrong. Learn how to talk like an adult rather than just talk over people and go "show me show me". Its pretty cringey
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Mtashed had valid points but sloppy delivery, Tectone is always going to think hes right so he shouldve come prepared for that. End of the day I don't know either of them but Tectone arguing live with 3 "Friends" in a week (Vtuber, Smack, and Tashed) shows me that there is one common factor and some self reflecting needs to be done. As for Mtashed im glad he called him out but not for the right things and just kinda made himself a blacklisted CC in terms of who will want to talk to him after this. Sucks to see.
Tash had no business sticking his nose in that situation. He was in the wrong absolutely. He was 100% farming content and trying to virtue signal. Tash hated Hex in the past, attacked her for her not agreeing with his stance on Atsu, and was never her friend. Now all the sudden he wants to white knight for her?
Dude is in a bad place mentally after WuWa and ZZZ not being the games he wanted them to be. He's burned out and needs to just step back for a couple months. Cause he lashed out and had no idea what he was doing.
When Tectone's arguing with someone, he'll immediately turn on his "debate bro" mode, even to his friends. That is really frustrating to watch, honestly.
They're your friends, bro. They didn't come to this argument to dunk on you, so why tf are you so desperate to dunk on them? You should trust to them more and try to see it from their perspective. This should just be a conversation, not a debate. You come to a conversation to understand someone, not to score a win against them.
@@nestword5654except he didn't want this conversation. He said "I'm good, ill cease communication and delete all videos with mtashed."
To which tash responded while watching "ok so that's in then. He doesn't wanna talk cause he knows he'll lose." Tash literally forced him into this debate and was the only one who mentioned winning and losing.
@@chriscrocker3976 He wasn't "white knighting" Hex, he was as you said frustrated after WuWa and ZZZ not being as he intended, was in a bad mental state, was fed up with the flaws he constantly saw in Tectone's demeanor, and at a time when he was at his boiling point, the drama between Tec and Hex happened. He was reminded of the characteristics Tec portrayed to others including him in the past and saw this opportunity to vent all of his frustrations once and for all.
Yes. Tash absolutely had no business sticking his nose between the drama between Hex and Tectone, he even admits that. But this ultimately was never about Hex, it was him confessing his pent up bitterness. Any other motivations regarding Hex are rendered mute at the face of his actual intentions.
Also blindly claiming his actions as him virtue signalling is also not correct. He knew this was going to do irreversible harm to his brand online, and that this ultimately was going to cause the majority of the community to be against him. As the definition goes, he wasn't aiming to "demonstrate his good character." He knows how arguments with Tectone usually go. He did this for him. At the end of the debacle, he knew it was a losing battle, but he said he still felt a weight of his shoulders.
At the end was Mtashed ultimately in the wrong here, and Tectone overall in the right. Very possibly. But blinding accusing him as "white knighting" as "virtue signalling" is disingenuous.
@@nestword5654 Tectone said at the very beginning that he's not going to hold back because he's pissed and he asked Mtashed if he wants to continue despite this. Mtashed said yes so that's that. "Debate mode" is justified imo.
I definitely see both view points. Mtashed took things too far but Tectone definitely could have handled the situation a lot better. There are no winners in this situation both took a big L today.
same, but I do think Mtashed took the biggest L, perhaps by far even
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Holy nuclear neutrality
I felt so heartbroken man. It shouldnt ended this way...
As valid as your point may be, if you cant stand your ground then-
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Mtash is a fucking snake lol. As much as I hate a lot of Tectone’s takes and believe this guy is full of it sometimes, Mtash was dead wrong, and with friends like Mtash who needs enemies. Mtash backstabbing game is on point.
Not really a snake.
Mtashed is just sick of tectones shit and it's valid.
Tectone is narcissistic af. He can never take a an L
I wouldn’t say he’s a snake. He was definitely beyond frustrated at how Tectone always starts shit with his friends and him seeing it again with Hex just triggered him beyond boiling point. Sad to see since I love them both.
I will continue to watch them both, but man this is so sad man…
Nah mtashed is a real one