My parents forced me to go to church. I have not been since I left home. My kids never been not my grandkids. Also, I will not attend a religious funeral either. Parents are not allowed to mention religion to my kids same for my grandchildren. My parents also had to change churches many times. Many Sunday schools teachers didn’t want me back. I refused to take part in plays. After the first time I was forced and purposely got my lines wrong. The second I announced that I wasn’t doing my lines on the night of the play.
I love this content! The perspective that sermons are for bringing glory to God and not firstly that we would learn about God is profound. It is mind renewing!! Thank you for inserting that example and Praise God for that pastor...his 'foolishness of preaching ' is changing people who he will never know or see...
This was great. My 7 & 5 year old boys are making every single week of church a battle to go. At least 5 days a week we sit down and read scripture together, over and over again I remind them that we are commanded to not forsake the gathering of believers and we are called to corporately gather together to worship God together and to encourage one another. We go because Christianity is objectively true. But because their father isn’t attending church- they see that and want to do the same. If anyone has wisdom, it would be greatly appreciated. I’ve asked them why when don’t want to go and it’s because Dad is at home and church is boring. I’ve explained to them that we don’t go to be entertained, but to be obedient to God. I’m actively serving in the church too.
It is good that you are having these conversations with your children and pointing them to biblical truth. This is a situation where it may be wise to have others in our church offer insight and guidance. If you haven't listened to this episode of our podcast yet, you may find it beneficial: foundationworldview.com/blog/raising-kids-with-an-unbelieving-spouse
Then don’t take them, at the very least read some verses, I ain’t Christian so I’m not gonna say much but if you force your kids to go to church theyre going to resent church as they grow up and ultimately might quit when they’re adults
I went through a hard couple of years around 2020 with two cancer diagnosis, and my church community was so encouraging, giving, and helpful. I agree 100% when you say, "If there are not a handful of people in your local church who you would call in an emergency at 3 AM without any hesitation, you're not part of a church, you attend a church service." God created us to be together, to be active in caring for each other, to worship Him together. Relationships can be difficult, but what a blessing it is to have those faithful 3 AM people you can call!
Thank you for this I am continously learning from what I keep hearing from all your teachings and stories. It either confirms what we do for our kids and also learn more things that I haven't really grasped yet, together with the scriptures you give, it better establish this new things that was taught and be embedded in my heart. Thank you. Abundant blessings to this ministry!
"Dad Billheimer told me one of the most shocking things many years ago. He said the greatest sin in the Body of Christ is that we Judge one another. I'll prove it to you son. When you raise your finger or raise your voice and judge your brother or sister or anybody else, you have in effect said to God, God, You get off your throne, I'm gonna judge them for you." - Paul Crouch - Trinity Broadcasting Network Let me also say that it is good that you do family devotional time reading gospel and singing gospel songs because just like what happens outside of a school at home spills over into the school on school days I will also say that what happens at home outside of the Church will also spill over into the Church on Sunday School and Worship Service Days. However, I will also say that as much as I support a person's choice to go to Church and Worship God I will also support a person's choice not to go to church and when you force your children to go to church with you when their minds are on something else whether it be soccer, etc. you are in effect putting yourself at risk for losing worship time if your children disrupt you or rebel against you because you are wasting their time forcing your religious activities on their lives. Remember that the next time that you tell your kids to be quiet, etc. in church. I live with Autism Spectrum Disorder and yes I am prone to get hyper and loud and excited about something out of left field whether it be positive or negative and am prone to shutting down at any time of the day and I speak this based on My Experiences when I used to be forced to go to Church with My Family with other things on my mind all the while I was a sped student going to school Monday through Friday with other things on my mind at the same time. The same book that says for children to obey their parents also says for the parents not to provoke their children to anger. It amazes me when I see Christians who follow Jesus Christ only using God's Word when and where it benefits them versus someone else. You're an awesome and beautiful Mother however, We already have a God and we do not need another one.
The Bible tells us to teach our children in the ways of the Lord. Sending them to church to help teach them about God is part of that teaching. A child may not want to go to church sometimes just like they don't want to go to school some days. But they go to learn. When they can make decisions for themselves, then it will be up to them.
I like much of what you're saying here, but I don't know I it's more for born-again believers. A child is not neccesarily born-again so I think it's a different issue. And a delicate one. My ways of "forcing" my child to church and e.g. not going for soccer or something, could be a hinderance for it to receive the gospel openly. However, I see your point of teaching right priorities. I guess I would pressure more on what you said in the last part, about family devotional time and living as a role model for your children, so they see a real example of a christian life.
@@Hot_pocket983 it’s not so much requiring to following Jesus it’s led by the Spirit Jesus said John 6:44 No Man can come to me less the Father draws them to me and I will raise him up on the last day the mistake that parents make is they force their children to go to church but yet they do not teach them how to get saved how Jesus is the only way to Heaven nor show God in them as a result they turn away from the faith I read the comments on one page no longer believes in God because her parents forced her to go to church but never led her to Jesus. Parents should teach their children when they are saying their first words about Jesus how much he loves them God bless you my sister remember Jesus is not a fire escape He’s our Savior
@@Hot_pocket983 it’s about receiving Jesus into your heart it’s starts at home God says in Ezekiel 36: 27 I will cause you to walk to my statues and give you a new heart in other words it’s the Holy Spirit that gives us the desire to come to church and read the bible. Is not the Holy Spirit our helper? And you wonder why you feel bored to go to church I am sorry hon but don’t take this wrong way I am going to say this as a fellow sibling in the Lord with love it’s because you relied on your own strength rather than the Holy Spirit that’s why Jesus ask and you shall receive. Ask the Lord to give the desire to come to Church and last but not least the reason why you’re child doesn’t want to go to Church it’s because like I read in an article what their saying I don’t believe in God to answer your question because receiving Jesus into your heart does not just have to be in a church also learning about Jesus can be anywhere again I say this with love what’s the point to going church if you’re child does not want to have a relationship with Jesus ? God bless you again my sister.
Oh dear. Call someone from my Church at 3 in the morning?!! That's what parents and siblings are for. There is no one at our church that we can trust like that, nor have much in common then going to the same Church... I and very doubtful about your comment. . . How do you even build a relationship with another family like that? Especially when my husband is resistant to Christian Hospitality. . . 🤦♀️
It is great that you have close relationships with your parents and siblings. That is a gift. We know that every church and family situation is different. However, in Matthew 12:46-50, Jesus made clear that the bonds of spiritual family trump those of biological family. So, we would encourage you to ask God to give you wisdom in how you can develop closer relationships at church.
@FoundationWorldview Humm, I understand, however how do I convince a spouse who isn't inclined to such closeness with others? God give me wisdom indeed...🙏
Praise God I DO have many friends that would WANT me to call them if I were in need at 3 am...they would be able to offer me Biblical insight and comfort in a dire situation where my family would not. Good evaluation of a church FAMILY!!
@FoundationWorldview Humm, the more I read the passage you quoted Mathew 12: 46-50, the more I think you are wrong. His mother and brother were going to tell him to stop preaching. How does that relate to me trusting my parents and siblings over those at church? How can those at church trump the people who gave birth to me, scraficed all for my good, and still do?! Didn't God make the family the most important people after Himself? Didn't God/Jesus say honor you, mother, and father? I get what your saying, but church people will never trump over the needs of our family.
My parents forced me to go to church. I have not been since I left home. My kids never been not my grandkids. Also, I will not attend a religious funeral either. Parents are not allowed to mention religion to my kids same for my grandchildren. My parents also had to change churches many times. Many Sunday schools teachers didn’t want me back. I refused to take part in plays. After the first time I was forced and purposely got my lines wrong. The second I announced that I wasn’t doing my lines on the night of the play.
I love this content! The perspective that sermons are for bringing glory to God and not firstly that we would learn about God is profound. It is mind renewing!! Thank you for inserting that example and Praise God for that pastor...his 'foolishness of preaching ' is changing people who he will never know or see...
This was amazing! I LOVED your story about your perspective of churches and sermons changing. Thank you!
This was great. My 7 & 5 year old boys are making every single week of church a battle to go. At least 5 days a week we sit down and read scripture together, over and over again I remind them that we are commanded to not forsake the gathering of believers and we are called to corporately gather together to worship God together and to encourage one another. We go because Christianity is objectively true. But because their father isn’t attending church- they see that and want to do the same. If anyone has wisdom, it would be greatly appreciated. I’ve asked them why when don’t want to go and it’s because Dad is at home and church is boring. I’ve explained to them that we don’t go to be entertained, but to be obedient to God. I’m actively serving in the church too.
It is good that you are having these conversations with your children and pointing them to biblical truth. This is a situation where it may be wise to have others in our church offer insight and guidance. If you haven't listened to this episode of our podcast yet, you may find it beneficial: foundationworldview.com/blog/raising-kids-with-an-unbelieving-spouse
@@FoundationWorldview thank you for taking the time to reply, I know you will be busy. I’ll take a look!
Then don’t take them, at the very least read some verses, I ain’t Christian so I’m not gonna say much but if you force your kids to go to church theyre going to resent church as they grow up and ultimately might quit when they’re adults
I went through a hard couple of years around 2020 with two cancer diagnosis, and my church community was so encouraging, giving, and helpful. I agree 100% when you say, "If there are not a handful of people in your local church who you would call in an emergency at 3 AM without any hesitation, you're not part of a church, you attend a church service." God created us to be together, to be active in caring for each other, to worship Him together. Relationships can be difficult, but what a blessing it is to have those faithful 3 AM people you can call!
Thank you for this I am continously learning from what I keep hearing from all your teachings and stories. It either confirms what we do for our kids and also learn more things that I haven't really grasped yet, together with the scriptures you give, it better establish this new things that was taught and be embedded in my heart. Thank you. Abundant blessings to this ministry!
"Dad Billheimer told me one of the most shocking things many years ago. He said the greatest sin in the Body of Christ is that we Judge one another. I'll prove it to you son. When you raise your finger or raise your voice and judge your brother or sister or anybody else, you have in effect said to God, God, You get off your throne, I'm gonna judge them for you."
- Paul Crouch - Trinity Broadcasting Network
Let me also say that it is good that you do family devotional time reading gospel and singing gospel songs because just like what happens outside of a school at home spills over into the school on school days I will also say that what happens at home outside of the Church will also spill over into the Church on Sunday School and Worship Service Days.
However, I will also say that as much as I support a person's choice to go to Church and Worship God I will also support a person's choice not to go to church and when you force your children to go to church with you when their minds are on something else whether it be soccer, etc. you are in effect putting yourself at risk for losing worship time if your children disrupt you or rebel against you because you are wasting their time forcing your religious activities on their lives. Remember that the next time that you tell your kids to be quiet, etc. in church.
I live with Autism Spectrum Disorder and yes I am prone to get hyper and loud and excited about something out of left field whether it be positive or negative and am prone to shutting down at any time of the day and I speak this based on My Experiences when I used to be forced to go to Church with My Family with other things on my mind all the while I was a sped student going to school Monday through Friday with other things on my mind at the same time.
The same book that says for children to obey their parents also says for the parents not to provoke their children to anger.
It amazes me when I see Christians who follow Jesus Christ only using God's Word when and where it benefits them versus someone else.
You're an awesome and beautiful Mother however, We already have a God and we do not need another one.
Love this! Thank you so much!
The Bible tells us to teach our children in the ways of the Lord. Sending them to church to help teach them about God is part of that teaching. A child may not want to go to church sometimes just like they don't want to go to school some days. But they go to learn. When they can make decisions for themselves, then it will be up to them.
Thank you Elizabeth!
Educational at the least and most important to apply to my life and that of my grands!
I like much of what you're saying here, but I don't know I it's more for born-again believers. A child is not neccesarily born-again so I think it's a different issue. And a delicate one.
My ways of "forcing" my child to church and e.g. not going for soccer or something, could be a hinderance for it to receive the gospel openly.
However, I see your point of teaching right priorities. I guess I would pressure more on what you said in the last part, about family devotional time and living as a role model for your children, so they see a real example of a christian life.
Thank you for the Biblical perspective!
Is requiring Children going to church requiring them to follow Jesus?
Yes
@@Hot_pocket983 it’s not so much requiring to following Jesus it’s led by the Spirit Jesus said John 6:44 No Man can come to me less the Father draws them to me and I will raise him up on the last day the mistake that parents make is they force their children to go to church but yet they do not teach them how to get saved how Jesus is the only way to Heaven nor show God in them as a result they turn away from the faith I read the comments on one page no longer believes in God because her parents forced her to go to church but never led her to Jesus. Parents should teach their children when they are saying their first words about Jesus how much he loves them God bless you my sister remember Jesus is not a fire escape He’s our Savior
@@jesusburgos1255 Well darn…. Wait what’s the point of going if the kid isn’t learning about or following Jesus?
@@Hot_pocket983 it’s about receiving Jesus into your heart it’s starts at home God says in Ezekiel 36: 27 I will cause you to walk to my statues and give you a new heart in other words it’s the Holy Spirit that gives us the desire to come to church and read the bible. Is not the Holy Spirit our helper? And you wonder why you feel bored to go to church I am sorry hon but don’t take this wrong way I am going to say this as a fellow sibling in the Lord with love it’s because you relied on your own strength rather than the Holy Spirit that’s why Jesus ask and you shall receive. Ask the Lord to give the desire to come to Church and last but not least the reason why you’re child doesn’t want to go to Church it’s because like I read in an article what their saying I don’t believe in God to answer your question because receiving Jesus into your heart does not just have to be in a church also learning about Jesus can be anywhere again I say this with love what’s the point to going church if you’re child does not want to have a relationship with Jesus ? God bless you again my sister.
Oh dear. Call someone from my Church at 3 in the morning?!! That's what parents and siblings are for. There is no one at our church that we can trust like that, nor have much in common then going to the same Church...
I and very doubtful about your comment. . .
How do you even build a relationship with another family like that? Especially when my husband is resistant to Christian Hospitality. . . 🤦♀️
It is great that you have close relationships with your parents and siblings. That is a gift. We know that every church and family situation is different. However, in Matthew 12:46-50, Jesus made clear that the bonds of spiritual family trump those of biological family. So, we would encourage you to ask God to give you wisdom in how you can develop closer relationships at church.
@FoundationWorldview Humm, I understand, however how do I convince a spouse who isn't inclined to such closeness with others? God give me wisdom indeed...🙏
Praise God I DO have many friends that would WANT me to call them if I were in need at 3 am...they would be able to offer me Biblical insight and comfort in a dire situation where my family would not. Good evaluation of a church FAMILY!!
@FoundationWorldview Humm, the more I read the passage you quoted Mathew 12: 46-50, the more I think you are wrong. His mother and brother were going to tell him to stop preaching. How does that relate to me trusting my parents and siblings over those at church? How can those at church trump the people who gave birth to me, scraficed all for my good, and still do?!
Didn't God make the family the most important people after Himself? Didn't God/Jesus say honor you, mother, and father?
I get what your saying, but church people will never trump over the needs of our family.
sounds like indoctrination