Harold Bloom discusses Freud's major concepts (Mar. 21, 1983)
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- Harold Bloom, in a small class setting, discusses the origins of Freud's concepts of Pleasure/Unpleasure, Narcissism, The Death Wish, Ambivalence, Sadism/Masochism, Libido, Repression, etc. This is from the class at the New School in NYC on Mar. 21, 1983.
10:00 pleasure is a decrease in excitation
13:20 Freud's materialism is Epicurean and Lucretian
16:11 most fundamental in all of Freud
19:32 the greatest pleasure is nothing more than an oxymoron
21:50 Freud addresses the pleasure-pain principle to all mental phenomenon
26:54 Freud insisted that all dialecticians did away with dualism
27:52 the deepest dualism in him is between pleasure and reality
41:58 the engine of change is narcissism
43:20 ambivalence means simultaneity and self-contradiction
49:45 a Freudian drive always has its origin in a bodily urge or stimulus; the stimulus produces tension and the aim of that drive is to get rid of that tension
57:13 mourning and melancholia is an essay on the difficulties of detachment from the loved object
57:50 object means the aim or goal of a drive
1:09:24 the increase in excitation always comes with object-libido; the decrease, with o ego-libido
1:16:22 libido is a mythological, not biological [?] construct [/?]
1:17:22 there is no quantifiable libido
1:18:50 destrudo
1:19:30 ambivalence is one energy that fuel two drives
1:22:55 repression takes place before there is anything to repress
1:24:39 the primal of all primals is ambivalence
1:30:00 repression is always a defensive operation of the ego
Thank you for putting these lectures on the internet. Professor Bloom was the great teacher of our age. A genius without peer. These lectures are invaluable and a great testimony to the greatness of Professor Bloom.
Without peer? Other geniuses dwarf him, as he well knew.
Thank you so much for uploading these! I remember how it made me gloomy the day he died, and it felt like he was someone already long dead from the distant past, and I really felt like something special and important had passed from the world.
Gilbert, perhaps Bloom is immortal. I mean, what is immortality? It certainly is not being physically alive forever. Humanity is a herd of individuals and also a collective mind. Bloom has left his imprint on many individuals, effectively altering their thoughts and, thus, their soma, as well. His ideas and teaching have become part of the fabric of humanity. In that sense, a little part of him will be in all of us for many generations.
Damir, thank you so much for uploading these. They're absolute treasures, and they've brought me great joy
Thanks for posting. I am a philosophy major at DePaul University, and seeing another professor speak is wonderful.
You are very welcome. There are 9 other classes that I recorded and posted to TH-cam from that Spring 1983 semester (if you have not already found them).
@ Gilbert. Know exactly what you mean. Following Harold for over 30 years. It's like losing a cherished member of the family. Oh! how he loved and adored the Western Canon. And his sacred trinity. Walt Whitman, Wallace Steven's and Hart Crane! And, then there was Shakespeare's HAMLET. OMG. Prof. Bloom never failed but, to bring them all to life. And make them appear like his next door neighbors. RIP Harold and comfort to his precious and faithful Jean. Thanks for the cherished memories!!
Thank you so much for uploading these.
Hope you like the other 9 classes as well. There are a lot of ideas flowing out of Bloom's head,
Thank you so much for uploading these lectures🙏
Your welcome. I hope you have experienced at least one " a ha!" moment
@@damirstrmel9930 Thankfully Bloom gives us nothing but “a ha!” moments. May he rest in peace, and may he live forever in our minds!
Thank you so much. This is incredible.
You're welcome. There are 9 other classroom recording that I have posted from this spring 1983 semester where Bloom says many interesting things in a very relaxed environment. Bloom was special.
@@damirstrmel9930 I first came across Mr. Bloom as a high school senior. I specifically came across a review he wrote of Ralph Waldo Emerson. I was hooked. he meant so much to me because I consider myself a common reader. He gave me the words to express how solitary reading has always made me feel--since childhood. These lectures are absolutely incredible. I just....really want to sincerely thank you for keeping these, and posting these. I never comment on TH-cam, but I earnestly need to let you know what you've done is appreciated!! Thank you so much!!
Still fascinating a year later since I heard this!
Mr. Bloom was a classic. His wisdom and insights will circumscribe our Homo Sapien existence until that being morphs into something. Say, maybe in 10 or 20,000 years from now
Please publish more of these
There are 9 others. All from the spring 83 on my TH-cam page. Also several speaker fom the 84 conference on myth (including Bloom reading a paper entitled "Freud: Jewish essay against myth").
End of last comment should read "Jewishness Against Myth"
This is incredible. I haven’t heard this before.
Hope your neurons were moved in new ways. These lecture/class discussions were an extension of his previous writings, particularly the writings about literary agonism. If one listens to a few of these one realizes Bloom is not only searching for the revisionist elements in the writer's text as it pertained to the existent and accepted ideas of the era, but, I believe, he was clearly aware of his own position in the philosophical and literary milieu of his time. Certainly, Bloom was highly intelligent and knew the material well enough to make novel connections and improvise new ideas and infer new meanings.
@@damirstrmel9930 Thank you for your message Damir. I think the neurons were moved in new ways indeed.
Are there other videos in this series of his classes at the New School in NYC? I have found a variety of interviews either on local radio stations, C-SPAN, or with Charlie Rose online (mostly on TH-cam). I have not seen or heard these classes before at the New School.
Do you think Freudian psychoanalysis falls into his Anxiety of Influence theories? I have read about the Anxiety of Influence and heard him discuss it in various interviews -- indeed he mentions it here -- but have not yet read the book.
I think I can see how he is looking for the revisionist elements (to confirm, you mean the six revisionary ratios from Anxiety?) from these works. What do you mean about how his own position in the philosophical and literary tradition? Do you mean that he is a "misreader" of Dr. Johnson and Charles Lamb, for example? I think in that sense, it makes sense he would be in the tradition.
Out of curiosity, did you attend this class?
I don't know of any other recordings of Bloom's tenure at the New School other than the 9 other classes that I have posted to my TH-cam page. These recordings were made on a Sony Walkman cassette tape recorder that I placed on my desk during the class. Hence the low quality sound. I know that Bloom gave another class in a subsequent or previous (?) semester that was focused on the American literary tradition. I don't know of anyone else taping his classes. Those were the only two semesters that Bloom taught at the New School while I was there. The semester that I recorded was 15 sessions. The first five were about ancient religious texts from the Torah to the gnostic gospels. The next five were about Freud. The last five were on the American transcendental literary tradition in the US from Emerson through Wallace Stevens. I do have several other recordings of events at the New School that I have posted, or will post, including seminars entitled "What is Art For?", "Conference on Myth" with Umberto Ecco and Hide Ishiguro, and Jacques Derrida speaking about the role and future of the university.
Thanks
Freud's writings are very clear. Yes, he changed some of his ideas even discarded them. He discarded Child Seduction Theory, replaced his Topographic Model with Structural one, modified the process of making the unpleasant thoughts manifest to identifying the specific defense mechanism involves in a pathological behavior, etc. Yet, Freud's canon is easy-to- understand unlike the exposition of this Arnoldian mouthpiece.
You can explain Freud not by tracing the idea from the Epicurean Philosophy but by explaining Schopenhauer's neo-Kantian philosophy. He doesn't know the topic.
What's Bloom talking about? The infant doesn't stay hallucinated because the hunger pains creating the tension in the mental apparatus do not disappear but keep impinging on it. He says as much in the 7th chapter of The Interpretation of Dreams..
I so badly wish to start a Freudian revivalism, but not a psychoanalytic one, for Freud gets to drive us all bonkers, but in a good way, he's so good as your beloved teacher.
What is the type of Freudian theory that is not psychoanalysis?
Any secondary literature on Freud at this level of depth that you'd recommend? Bloom's posing some serious theoretical problems
Sorry I D I am not qualified to suggest secondary texts which could shed light on Bloom's musings. You may wish to read some of the other comments and reply to them with your query. Thanks for listening, I hope that pondering some of Blooms pronouncements will create new pathways in the brain and perhaps, give shape to that which was always in front of you, yet remained hidden.
Pleasure is a process of excitement building to climax. Climax (pleasure) without excitement can't really occur. A symphony of all climax would soon bore. Pleasure is not the reduction of excitement, but release of it after great build-up. The greater the build-up, the greater the release, the greater the pleasure. Passione' means pain.
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One fraud talking about another.