Yep really lazy journalism. There's no nightmare for Tesla unless someone builds a comparable charging network and a similar or superior car, not a copycat.
I have bought the G6, and I have to say that it is a very cost-effective electric car. With regard to fast charging and intelligent driving, this is definitely the best in the world.
Thanks Jason. The best part about the G6 is its self-evolving and future-proof nature. We hope that future OTA updates will unlock even more driving joy for you.
@@teslam3lrsuper528 G6 is very popular in China at present. I booked a car on June 30th and waited a month to get it. G6' s orders in China have been scheduled for the end of the year, so I think the orders in Europe may be next year.
The whole “Tesla killer” and “Tesla’s worst nightmare” is becoming an overused trope. You guys of all channels should know that for anyone to compete with Tesla, they need to be able to push as much volume and have at least the same market viability. How many times have we assumed that Chinese manufacturers can push the volume only for us to not see a single one in the EU and US markets? These videos always end in “only time will tell”. Please stop the clickbaiting.
@@dogbreath6974 As a Tesla owner and fan, I would just like to say that we're sick of all the misinformation and FUD that tesla haters spread. If tesla haters stopped with the lies, exaggerations & distortions, we'd stop having to defend it.
Expanding overseas for automobiles would cost billions, these Chinese EV manufacturers are small companies compared to TESLA. The largest one, BYD is only worth 20% of TESLA in terms of wealth and finance. XPENG is among the smallest ones. They don't have that kind of money and necessity yet to expand overseas. Not when their domestic market is still extremely lucrative. China is not Japan, China has a giant domestic market Japan doesn't have. Japanese brands need to prioritize the worldwide market to survive and grow, the Chinese brands don't, at least not yet.
@@dogbreath6974 AH! The "Standard" response, how predictable. Let's say they manage to sell 50,000 cars a Quarter. That's just under 20% of model Y sales. The cars they sell won't all replace Tesla equivalents. It would decimate the sales of Ford VW, etc. Then there's the margin. can they sustain sales? Service backup? do they have any? Time will tell. Meanwhile....Shhhh!
Tesla killer has nothing to do on how many cars they sell. It has to do with how much the better the car is. Many EV’s are better than Tesla but tesla is a 20 year old company now and it’s going to be hard to outsell them
Now I appreciate FCS for their stirling work that they do to highlight and counter the negative EV rhetoric the main stream press like to publish but they are doing the same. Please review a car without Tesla killer, worst nightmare etc etc titles. I know FCS are no Tesla fanboi's but for god sake give it a bloody rest
Agree - Elliot did his usual accomplished review, and hardly mentioned Tesla at all - then the description is completely different and clickbait-y, and not at all what is in the video... maybe Elliot can do a review where he is directly comparing one of these Chinese Tesla-copies to a Tesla, side-by-side; comparing design, finish, performance, drivability, infotainment, price, range, storage etc - then it would be reasonable to have a title and description like this.
@@ColinFox have you taken any time to actually research about this car? i can tell you haven done it because if you would, y would have a totally different opinion. i also own a model y so i know what im talking about. i own a model y and i researched this car. theres no need to be anti-tesla because tesla by itself has enough defects so when someone say something you dont like maybe they are just sharing their experience? maybe? dont be mad because tesla still has many quality control issue in 2023. i wanted to trade in my 2023 model y after 1 month but i would lose 25k combined deposit and value lost so i have to stick with this thing
Lol europeans love brands and the entry price is still so high you can buy any premium ice car or hybrid over this car. Most prople buy iphone cos its apple and american and mayb not realise its made by foxcon in china. Europeans bought teslas without most knowing was made in china. Xpeng will sell like kia and hyundai did but price gap needs to be bigger for volume sales. Price is king for value buyers and if tesla feel any competition they will discount cars by upto 30% again like they did this year. Tesla keeps reducing cost of its production and isnt afraid to screw over existing customers to meet its sales volume.
Why does everyone only consider sales in Europe? The UK and Europe used to sell cars all over the world including China, go look at the rest of the world, the Chinese are selling plenty and far far more than they were 10 yeas or so ago.
China doesn't have designers in any meaningful way. They copy. They do do manfacturing on a massive scale, but quality is poor. Watch videos of all the electric cars exploding all over China. Even the Chinese high-end electric SUV is blowing up.
Brand image is important because when people buy cars they don't buy just because the cars are cool. They need to make sure the manufacturer doesn't go bankrupt and close down the next year. Xpeng is a small company, facing unforgiven competition against big domestic players and Tesla. The biggest challenge Xpeng is facing is not making good cars but market confidence. Xpeng makes good cars, really really good cars. But as I said, you don't buy a car just because it is good.
yeah the tiny rear window is terrible. seems like they are forcing us towards using screens to check around the car instead of direct line of sight, which doesn't feel great to me.
In China, people prefer flashy over practical, because men outnumber women and are desperate to find wives. That's why BMW made giant grilles: for Chinese men to show off.
I use rear view mirror when driving, but reversing camera only after a quick check in the rear view when reversing... I wouldn't mind switching to camera for rear view mirror instead, so long as it was quite wide-angle (to check for pedestrians before reversing) and didn't get dirty... could also stop glare from headlights of the car behind when driving at night.
@@magnamundian probably not. the top is blocked by rear top spoiler, the bottom is blocked by rear passenger chair. the glass at the rear bottom can be lowered, but it won't change anything because of rear passenger chair.
This might work in far east markets but will only work in the UK if the price is significantly less than a Tesla. Badge snobbery is still rife so people won't shell out similar money for a relatively unknown brand.
Not really badge snobbery. Xpeng has no track record and is Chinese. Why would you pay Tesla money for a car that nobody has ever heard of outside of the EV fan world? The rate at which this car will lose value will be far higher than a Tesla, so it makes no sense to buy it unless it is either much cheaper for the same quality or much higher quality for the same price. It's completely rational.
Can you stop with the Tesla click baiting. It’s on track to sell 2 million cars a year. A manufacturer that is selling thousands of vehicles is not going to be Tesla nightmare. At best it’s going to be an alternative option for a few people relative to Tesla size. This car should get a review based on its own merits rather then throwing in Tesla in the title to click bait some views
@@andymccabe6712 your reading comprehension is lacking. Your point is my entire point. Give it a rest with Tesla is exactly what I was saying. The company didn’t need to be mentioned in this review at all.
Once Tesla only sold tens of thousands of cars. Right now it sells much less than other manufacturers sell of ICE but we must believe that one company is blessed and others are not?
I've never driven an electric car. However I have been paying a lot of attention to the E car market. At this point I am a hard sell on anything other than a Tesla. Come 2024 I will be able to purchase a Model 3 for just under 20K, probably not counting tax, cause I'm in Ca. I think that is an amazing value.
Xpeng has been struggling to reach sales of 10,000 per month so far this year. This G6, following in the Tesla Model Y footsteps, appears to be implementing castings along with a battery floor. At face value it has all the engineering ingredients of a good car. However it needs to be manufactured at low cost in order to provide enough net profits to survive. Therein lies a catch 22, unless Xpeng can manufacture at high volume it will not reduce its production costs through economies of scale and thus profits will remain illusory. It may be that the G6 is too little too late for Xpeng.
The fact that car reviewers are overly use the term of "Copycat", it just sound silly and over exaggerated! In fact nobody care about copyright anymore as long as it a a great drivable car!😂😂😂
Hi Elliott is there any chance you could review the BYD Seagull, everything on the interweb is a bit crappy. Still haven't found a decent driving review.😊
G9 Was not a huge success? Lots of people have ordered here in Denmark/Norway, But none have been delivered yet. how can you make that conclusion when it just have been introduduced!?
The innovation of the Chinese manufacturers is astonishing- it is a shame that Western brands want their technology as well, Geely for one, SAIC for another. Their tech still comes over here as another car - MG, LOTUS, Polestar... so, they end up with the manufacturing base, skills & knowledge, capacity etc, and pocket the profit. The, UK can't even manage a battery manufacturing facility. With the computing power in each car, software etc, etc, we need to sit up and take notice.
It's always interesting to see new competition in the EV arena. Competition forces each company to adapt and up their game to remain competitive. The Chinese brands will never be a huge factor in the US market simply because of the politicians won't allow it. US politicians (rightly or wrongly) will do whatever it takes to limit Chinese automakers access to the US market. Tesla is a strong competitor and they are aware that competition is growing. It is a benefit to all consumers when brands compete with each other and improve their products.
@@nevadaxtube Dunno, that G6 looked pretty close to a "mum bus" to me.... but I think the point @rogerstarkey5390 was making is: Xpeng, with US factories (& therefore US jobs) will likely get better access to the US market than Chinese brands who do NOT do any manufacturing in the US.
"Tesla’s Worst Nightmare." Click-baity title. I typically view FCS videos within an hour of them being posted. Since I don't want to reward clickbait and feed the algorithm, I'll usually wait a day or two if a video has a really obnoxious title. I'm varying from my normal anti-clickbait behavior just to let your editorial staff know.
Yup: "To accelerate the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible." ... if this is a compelling car that sells well, it is helping deliver Tesla's mission!
I'm not a great fan of having to use the screen for all the controls. Give me simple buttons or sliders. I don't want to be taking my eyes off the road to look for adjusting temperatures, volumes etcétera.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Of course I do, but I locate the control in a millisecond, then I know exactly what to do with it. I'm speaking from experience, to change my AC up or down, admittedly not that often, but depending on what screen I am in, it can take a couple of seconds to change the screen and then adjust the settings. For example if I've got Google Maps operating. Why not just give us the option. Those who don't have a problem with the screen, go ahead, use it and don't touch those old fashioned buttons.
Another great review from Elliot. Each time I watch one of his reviews I have to remind myself that we in the West have to wait a long time before these cars become available here in significant numbers and at the right price. All the same great reviews from Elliot on the things to come.
This video is categorizing the model as being competition for Tesla. However, it is likely a stronger competitor against vehicles from BYD, Li Auto, Nio and the rest of the Chinese EV makers who are making something similar. Xpeng can grow market share, reach scale production, and be positive cash flow on a faster timeline than originally projected. So, concluding Xpeng (with autopilot) may gain market share but the gain may not have a big effect on Tesla as much as it will on other Chinese manufacturers.
@reginald7214 They're almost certainly selling the car at a loss. It matters because if they cannot grow sales they won't stay in business. I just want to know how much money they're losing on each car.
@@jhunt5578 I see all your other comments are Tesla centric. Another fanboy here to talk sh*t under the guise of curiosity. Take your cult spam to a Tesla circle jerk video. Nobody lamer than the "margins" guy. Make sure that blue checkmark is paid up tho.
Nice model. Low base, very good efficiency, excellent boot and cabin space. They seem to have nailed the essentials. The weight is a bit strange though.
What's with the click-bait title? This doesn't bring any new challenges to Tesla. And nobody in their right mind, with the choice between this and a Model Y, would choose this thing. An "alleged" £23k for a base-spec, totally unproven, unrecognised manufacturer with zero support. I'm sure residual values will be about as buoyant as the Titan submarine...
Xpeng need 10k+of these sold a month just to survive. Vs tesla sells nearly 100,000 model y a month right NOW globally not just in China! With their 2 newest largest most efficient automated factories yet for building evs in, still ramping UP. Tesla also has run the 2 most efficient automotive plants per sq ft on separate continents globally for 2+consecutive year's. Good luck expeng you'll need it imo. The more evs sold anywhere globally the better in my book. 👍🏻😀
@@onetwothreefour-s1n Hardly hysterical, Xpeng are not doing well financially. It's more hysterical talking about a car looking embarassing. Who really places importance on what their car looks like?!
@@0-Will-0 that might be the biggest cope in History. My god. Who cares what their car looks like? Holy sh*t. That was easily the most fanboy thing ever said. I used to be a fanboy so the ugly styling and terrible ride qualities and interiors always needed excuses. It got tiring. They are great, ugly vehicles made and bought by douch* bags in a cult of personality frenzy. I can help you regain your independent thought if you like. It is so rewarding. You'll never again have to say something so stupid.
This looks like a great car and a recent news release says that this will soon be coming to Malaysia in right hand drive guise. That will be awesome. Great job Xpeng!
I live in Thailand and EVs have started to be available here in the past year or so. The main ones are the MG4, Ora Good Cat and the BYD Dolphin with prices in the range of £18,000 to £28,000. A new one that has just come on sale is the NETA V, but I have yet to see any videos on this.
Surely you must have got the boot litre wrong. Every other review says aprox 100l more than you do, and "a thousands litres" with the seats down is just a finger in the air number and is probably 400 liter+++ more!
Not another Chinese car that will cost 50% more when it reaches Europe... It will sell but only in very low numbers. Price is and remains the main door opener for these brands. I wonder why they still have not understood this...
Smorgasboard (smörgåsbord)--- as a norwegian I understand the word but had to google it even if it is swedish as the word at the first time surprised me and was unrecognizable when prononciated as English. It is literally translated "butter duck table (i.e. buffet table)" but I guess it means sandwich buffet/table/offering . What a weird word to absorb.
Most BEV "experts" still don't seem to grasp the essential concepts of Production Capacity, Production Efficiency, and Profit Margins. "Designed specifically to undercut and outperform the Tesla Model Y" means literally nothing when they can't also beat Tesla at those three core proficiencies. A Michelin Chef's cooking can be the best in the world but they'll still never be more successful than McDonald's at feeding millions and making Billions.
I really love the XPENG SEPA 2.0 architecture with 800V battery architecture, front and rear die casting and Cell In Body (CIB) battery pack : it is all the most uptodate technological improvements finally available in one same car and technically better than Tesla Model Y. That said, with all thise technical improvements, I am bit disappointed by the weight (I wish they could get it below or closer to 1700kg), and able to achieve a range of 580km/600km+ WLTP with 70kWh/75kWh battery pack for base model, and 720km/750km+ WLTP with 95kWh/100kWh battery pack with 4C charging rate even for the base model. Also what about V2G/V2L functionalities : it would be great to get 11kW V2G capabilities and to have one 220V socket near back seats, and 2 two 220V sockets in the boot… I also with for more USB-C socket on dashboard, and several in-cabin and out-cabin 4K / 8K audio and video camera enhanced with LIDAR to audio-video record inside and outside the car on a 20TB+ on-board flash storage, to be able to rent the car and keep recordings to monitor potential damages…
Yes, I understand that, but it could be options on a higher end trim. Like this, people that don’t want/need the option, would not have to pay for it (like autopilot option on Tesla cars)
I don't this is a "copycat" of model Y. They have totally different designs. You can't say they are alike just bcos they are both SUV EVs. It is a nice car but it is not a Model Y killer neither.
I love the fact that you guys cover other EVs than Tesla, but really hate the fact that you're constantly shitting on Tesla. If anything EVs should kill ICE cars, not other EVs, so please stop it.
You parroting a mission statement? You know those are just made up fluff right? How deep in the cult did you go? If you need help there are organisations that can help you regain your independent thought and be a free man again. It's life changing.
Why isn't there any discussion about political influence when it comes to ev production? We discuss climate, we discuss capital, but we never discuss politics or policy. There is an eco/political reason why Chinese vehicles are "cheap".
I think this will be a big seller for Xpeng. They seemed to have thrown everything in it for a good price ¥209,900 (£26k without import duties). In comparison Nio & Li Auto cars seems expensive and it looks like better specs than BYD Atto3 & Dolphin. You can now pickup a 2021 Tesla model 3 for £28k and they have a much stronger brand in the UK. So pricing this right in UK will be critical for Xpeng. The MG4 has been selling well in the UK at about £26-£28k. If they can bring it to the UK at the similar price (not £35-40k) then it will be a hit. According to Bard 'The cost of a ¥209,900 car in the UK including all import duties and taxes would be £32,987.00. This is calculated by adding the following costs to the car's original price: Import duty: 10% of the car's original price = ¥20,990 = £2,518.80 VAT: 20% of the car's total price (including import duty) = £5,037.40' They may need to sacrifice some profit for market share.
As a newcomer to amsterdam, must say I was sceptic but learned some interesting upsides. If we would go towards a car free city - which I think has some definite perks, I am curious how we would be able to move (as in, moving into a new house) if car access is becoming more strict.
@@timmurphy5541 You’re barking up the wrong tree on this one. I live not far from the channel owner. Anyway, Like I said. I can’t quite put my finger on it, There’s something a little odd about how willing to forgive problems along with a liberal peppering with incredibly evocative words thats got my spidy senses tingling.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 Lol. I’m completely blind. Autocorrect apostrophised the word which I’m really not concerned about. It took 90 seconds with a screen reader trying to navigate to the word you were referring to to see what on earth could be wrong. When I finally got there, all I could think was does it really matter.
Plenty of inexpensive EV’s in California. Where are you located? Wife and I each have a BEV. Bought a BEV for each of my kids. And have two more BEV’s on preorder. The money I saved owning my first EV led to buying the second, and so forth.
@@bikeman123 my daughter has already paid off her car. And my son is working to pay back mom and dad interest-free. They both graduated with honors and serve their communities. Don’t make assumptions about other people’s kids as they only make an ass out of you. Have a good day.
I love the look, the front reminds me a bit of a 5th gen toyota celica - a car i dreamed about but had to can when i sat in one due to no headroom...... would have loved to buy a P7 but they dont sell them in the uk so went for an ipace instead.
Xpeng and Tesla do not like HUD and I do not like cars without an HUD (all my car since 2005 had it) - show stopper for me so the did NOT stuck everything
No, but they do use the 800V charging standard where there’s no place to charge it using that standard so your just charging it at home like every other non-Tesla EV.
So they still want buttons in their cars, just not for air con, stereo, etc. which is where I want buttons. I want to go as far back in time as the gear stick being on the steering column. I want buttons and dials for most functions again. Power windows and side mirrors can stay. Reverse camera can stay. Car navigation can stay. I'm not fussed about levers or buttons for door opening. Extra storage space is welcome, especially if one of the new storage areas could be temperature controlled. I also love my sunnies having their own compartment. It is very convenient. Having charging ports in the rear passenger area can stay too.
Why do they make them so fugly? They only electric car I liked (and have driven) is Honda E. If technology is advanced it doesn't mean that the car has to be a generic quasi-futuristic mess.
It would be good if you could make a show about what it would really take to produce, distribute and service a genuine Tesla competitor in the UK. It's not just about the cars, is it? I'm not an EV owner, i only clock up about 4,500 miles a year and car ownership doesn't make economic sense when there's good car club availability, but surely a major strength of Tesla is that they're selling a complete system, including an exclusive charging network, and not just cars. Also, it seems reasonable to expect that Tesla will be around for a few years whereas this manufacturer - apparently dependent on a single vehicle and subject to the whim of PRC state bureaucracts, could disappear into a memory hole at any moment leaving owners stranded. Or am i wrong?
@@rogerstarkey5390 Saying "get over it" is quite funny. Lots of people in the UK try that nowadays as if they think it could achieve something but it usually means they are running low on bullshit.
@@timmurphy5541 Why are you on this channel if you don't care about sustainability? Car salesman that's scared that Tesla and Chinese EVs are disrupting the market? Too bad, progress waits for no one, so stop crying and go find a new job.
To be successful, XPeng need to come to UK/Europe and sell at really competitive and attractive prices. NOT like BYD who are asking as much as a Tesla and wondering why they are not selling any?
Who and where? Personally, I'd prefer an investigation regarding the high price of power to consumers, considering that the wholesale price to Utilities is at or below the price it was 3 years ago. When THEY stop profiteering, we can chase the charging companies... Eh
@@rogerstarkey5390 I'm referring to UK prices. I have been in the UK for 1 month and blown away by the prices. Saw one at £0.79/kWh and couldn't believe it.
Why all the anti-Tesla headlines these days? Tesla pretty much started the whole BEV movement. We should be celebrating the company, not knocking it. And, btw, I really like Xpeng too. In fact, I'm a shareholder.
Because fanboys are awful people who hate all other evs and Elon turned out to be a huge douchebag just in it for the clout. Cult of personality gave us trump as well. Maybe we should quit worshipping people?
I am sick of people calling every single EV a TESLA killer, or Tesla will be in trouble, or Tesla's worst nightmare.
Yep really lazy journalism. There's no nightmare for Tesla unless someone builds a comparable charging network and a similar or superior car, not a copycat.
Beat me to it…exact same thought!
especially when they come from China
Tesla doesn't care. Want more EVs no matter what. Irritating idiots even at this channel
I'm sorry all this people that love the EV revolution actually hate the main drive of this revolution which is Tesla.
I have bought the G6, and I have to say that it is a very cost-effective electric car. With regard to fast charging and intelligent driving, this is definitely the best in the world.
Thanks Jason. The best part about the G6 is its self-evolving and future-proof nature. We hope that future OTA updates will unlock even more driving joy for you.
When it's coming to Europe?
@@teslam3lrsuper528 G6 is very popular in China at present. I booked a car on June 30th and waited a month to get it. G6' s orders in China have been scheduled for the end of the year, so I think the orders in Europe may be next year.
@@JasonZhang666感觉复制不了P7的盛况了😢 我之前P7排了三个月😂
It’s more of a threat to ice. your insistence on pitting EV against EV seems misguided and missing the point.
The whole “Tesla killer” and “Tesla’s worst nightmare” is becoming an overused trope. You guys of all channels should know that for anyone to compete with Tesla, they need to be able to push as much volume and have at least the same market viability. How many times have we assumed that Chinese manufacturers can push the volume only for us to not see a single one in the EU and US markets? These videos always end in “only time will tell”. Please stop the clickbaiting.
@nutellacrepe Some people are fed up with hearing all the Tesla fanboys stories and comments as well.
@@dogbreath6974 As a Tesla owner and fan, I would just like to say that we're sick of all the misinformation and FUD that tesla haters spread. If tesla haters stopped with the lies, exaggerations & distortions, we'd stop having to defend it.
Expanding overseas for automobiles would cost billions, these Chinese EV manufacturers are small companies compared to TESLA. The largest one, BYD is only worth 20% of TESLA in terms of wealth and finance. XPENG is among the smallest ones. They don't have that kind of money and necessity yet to expand overseas. Not when their domestic market is still extremely lucrative. China is not Japan, China has a giant domestic market Japan doesn't have. Japanese brands need to prioritize the worldwide market to survive and grow, the Chinese brands don't, at least not yet.
@@dogbreath6974
AH! The "Standard" response, how predictable.
Let's say they manage to sell 50,000 cars a Quarter.
That's just under 20% of model Y sales.
The cars they sell won't all replace Tesla equivalents.
It would decimate the sales of Ford VW, etc.
Then there's the margin. can they sustain sales?
Service backup? do they have any?
Time will tell.
Meanwhile....Shhhh!
Tesla killer has nothing to do on how many cars they sell. It has to do with how much the better the car is. Many EV’s are better than Tesla but tesla is a 20 year old company now and it’s going to be hard to outsell them
Now I appreciate FCS for their stirling work that they do to highlight and counter the negative EV rhetoric the main stream press like to publish but they are doing the same. Please review a car without Tesla killer, worst nightmare etc etc titles. I know FCS are no Tesla fanboi's but for god sake give it a bloody rest
Agree - Elliot did his usual accomplished review, and hardly mentioned Tesla at all - then the description is completely different and clickbait-y, and not at all what is in the video... maybe Elliot can do a review where he is directly comparing one of these Chinese Tesla-copies to a Tesla, side-by-side; comparing design, finish, performance, drivability, infotainment, price, range, storage etc - then it would be reasonable to have a title and description like this.
Needs to come to Europe at a decent price, not 50k plus!
Impossible with the import tax they get put under.
It’s a better car than model y in all a parameters so wouldn’t mind paying the same or little extra
Selling half of that price now in China
@@tonypaca3015 They showed nothing of the self-driving tech, or the infotainment system. So yet again, you're spouting your anti-tesla BS. Go away.
@@ColinFox have you taken any time to actually research about this car? i can tell you haven done it because if you would, y would have a totally different opinion. i also own a model y so i know what im talking about. i own a model y and i researched this car. theres no need to be anti-tesla because tesla by itself has enough defects so when someone say something you dont like maybe they are just sharing their experience? maybe? dont be mad because tesla still has many quality control issue in 2023. i wanted to trade in my 2023 model y after 1 month but i would lose 25k combined deposit and value lost so i have to stick with this thing
The Chinese designers and manufacturers aren't just eating the European manufactures lunches but breakfast and dinner too.
Lol europeans love brands and the entry price is still so high you can buy any premium ice car or hybrid over this car.
Most prople buy iphone cos its apple and american and mayb
not realise its made by foxcon in china.
Europeans bought teslas without most knowing was made in china.
Xpeng will sell like kia and hyundai did but price gap needs to be bigger for volume sales.
Price is king for value buyers and if tesla feel any competition they will discount cars by upto 30% again like they did this year.
Tesla keeps reducing cost of its production and isnt afraid to screw over existing customers to meet its sales volume.
You’re assuming that sanctions on EVs will not be an issue going forward
Nope for Europe. How big are those sales figures for the Chinese cars in Europe?
Why does everyone only consider sales in Europe?
The UK and Europe used to sell cars all over the world including China, go look at the rest of the world, the Chinese are selling plenty and far far more than they were 10 yeas or so ago.
China doesn't have designers in any meaningful way. They copy. They do do manfacturing on a massive scale, but quality is poor. Watch videos of all the electric cars exploding all over China. Even the Chinese high-end electric SUV is blowing up.
Whoever is writing your video taglines is MY worst nightmare.
I see what you tried to do there (But I doubt they're worried)
@@rogerstarkey5390 I too, doubt they are worried. I’m just so tired of the word “Tesla” being used to prompt views - so very tired. Cheers.
If they are so good, why have they not been selling? Even the Chinese don't seem to be buying them.
I believe this guy is paid by the Chinese ev makers
Too much competition
Brand image is important because when people buy cars they don't buy just because the cars are cool. They need to make sure the manufacturer doesn't go bankrupt and close down the next year. Xpeng is a small company, facing unforgiven competition against big domestic players and Tesla. The biggest challenge Xpeng is facing is not making good cars but market confidence. Xpeng makes good cars, really really good cars. But as I said, you don't buy a car just because it is good.
Because they aren't making enough.
They're skint
yeah the tiny rear window is terrible. seems like they are forcing us towards using screens to check around the car instead of direct line of sight, which doesn't feel great to me.
In China, people prefer flashy over practical, because men outnumber women and are desperate to find wives. That's why BMW made giant grilles: for Chinese men to show off.
I use rear view mirror when driving, but reversing camera only after a quick check in the rear view when reversing... I wouldn't mind switching to camera for rear view mirror instead, so long as it was quite wide-angle (to check for pedestrians before reversing) and didn't get dirty... could also stop glare from headlights of the car behind when driving at night.
for reasonable reason: lower drag coefficient. which will increase battery efficiency.
@@wangyaohan8824 nothing stopping them from having a taller window with the same external profile.
@@magnamundian probably not. the top is blocked by rear top spoiler, the bottom is blocked by rear passenger chair. the glass at the rear bottom can be lowered, but it won't change anything because of rear passenger chair.
What?!?!? Another "Tesla killer"? How many we had so far? 50? 100? All of them?
(That's about how many those "killers" sell 😉)
yep and unlike Tesla they advertise
This might work in far east markets but will only work in the UK if the price is significantly less than a Tesla. Badge snobbery is still rife so people won't shell out similar money for a relatively unknown brand.
Yet Tesla is only a name via bullshit towards mailable minds. Anyone can do the same.
Not really badge snobbery. Xpeng has no track record and is Chinese. Why would you pay Tesla money for a car that nobody has ever heard of outside of the EV fan world? The rate at which this car will lose value will be far higher than a Tesla, so it makes no sense to buy it unless it is either much cheaper for the same quality or much higher quality for the same price. It's completely rational.
Instead of that, they could just do badge engineering. Call it European and they will buy it.
It looks really great but it will come to Europe with a 50 or 60% markup and everybody only doubt will be deciding between the Model 3 or the Y.
Dealer told me the price will be 40-45K in the Netherlands, Q2 next year. Base model Y is 47K here.
Can you stop with the Tesla click baiting. It’s on track to sell 2 million cars a year. A manufacturer that is selling thousands of vehicles is not going to be Tesla nightmare. At best it’s going to be an alternative option for a few people relative to Tesla size. This car should get a review based on its own merits rather then throwing in Tesla in the title to click bait some views
Oh, please ...give it a rest with the Tezzler worship..!!
.. were all bored with Tezzler now...
Yep, another fanboy losing his mind. Heil Elon!
@@andymccabe6712 your reading comprehension is lacking. Your point is my entire point. Give it a rest with Tesla is exactly what I was saying. The company didn’t need to be mentioned in this review at all.
Once Tesla only sold tens of thousands of cars. Right now it sells much less than other manufacturers sell of ICE but we must believe that one company is blessed and others are not?
I've never driven an electric car. However I have been paying a lot of attention to the E car market. At this point I am a hard sell on anything other than a Tesla. Come 2024 I will be able to purchase a Model 3 for just under 20K, probably not counting tax, cause I'm in Ca. I think that is an amazing value.
Xpeng has been struggling to reach sales of 10,000 per month so far this year. This G6, following in the Tesla Model Y footsteps, appears to be implementing castings along with a battery floor. At face value it has all the engineering ingredients of a good car. However it needs to be manufactured at low cost in order to provide enough net profits to survive. Therein lies a catch 22, unless Xpeng can manufacture at high volume it will not reduce its production costs through economies of scale and thus profits will remain illusory. It may be that the G6 is too little too late for Xpeng.
The fact that car reviewers are overly use the term of "Copycat", it just sound silly and over exaggerated! In fact nobody care about copyright anymore as long as it a a great drivable car!😂😂😂
Hi Elliott is there any chance you could review the BYD Seagull, everything on the interweb is a bit crappy. Still haven't found a decent driving review.😊
G9 Was not a huge success?
Lots of people have ordered here in Denmark/Norway, But none have been delivered yet. how can you make that conclusion when it just have been introduduced!?
The innovation of the Chinese manufacturers is astonishing- it is a shame that Western brands want their technology as well, Geely for one, SAIC for another. Their tech still comes over here as another car - MG, LOTUS, Polestar... so, they end up with the manufacturing base, skills & knowledge, capacity etc, and pocket the profit. The, UK can't even manage a battery manufacturing facility. With the computing power in each car, software etc, etc, we need to sit up and take notice.
It's always interesting to see new competition in the EV arena. Competition forces each company to adapt and up their game to remain competitive. The Chinese brands will never be a huge factor in the US market simply because of the politicians won't allow it. US politicians (rightly or wrongly) will do whatever it takes to limit Chinese automakers access to the US market. Tesla is a strong competitor and they are aware that competition is growing. It is a benefit to all consumers when brands compete with each other and improve their products.
(Pssst..... You do know BYD has a factory in the US building buses?)
@@rogerstarkey5390 I didn't realize the video was about buses. Oops!
@@nevadaxtube Dunno, that G6 looked pretty close to a "mum bus" to me.... but I think the point @rogerstarkey5390 was making is: Xpeng, with US factories (& therefore US jobs) will likely get better access to the US market than Chinese brands who do NOT do any manufacturing in the US.
"Tesla’s Worst Nightmare." Click-baity title. I typically view FCS videos within an hour of them being posted. Since I don't want to reward clickbait and feed the algorithm, I'll usually wait a day or two if a video has a really obnoxious title. I'm varying from my normal anti-clickbait behavior just to let your editorial staff know.
Still no xpeng in the UK,when will we get a right hand drive model?
Fully Charged is now clickbait? lol
It's a Tesla rival, and if you think that gives Tesla nightmares you haven't read their mission statement.
Yup: "To accelerate the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible." ... if this is a compelling car that sells well, it is helping deliver Tesla's mission!
I'm not a great fan of having to use the screen for all the controls. Give me simple buttons or sliders. I don't want to be taking my eyes off the road to look for adjusting temperatures, volumes etcétera.
Do you REALLY think you don't take your eyes off the road when you use "Simple buttons or sliders"?
You've just never had someone check.
(You do)
@@rogerstarkey5390 Of course I do, but I locate the control in a millisecond, then I know exactly what to do with it. I'm speaking from experience, to change my AC up or down, admittedly not that often, but depending on what screen I am in, it can take a couple of seconds to change the screen and then adjust the settings. For example if I've got Google Maps operating. Why not just give us the option. Those who don't have a problem with the screen, go ahead, use it and don't touch those old fashioned buttons.
That's what voice recognition is for.
@@PCLoadLetter
Couldn't agree more.
@@PCLoadLetter Ever tried voice recognition in a heavy thunderstorm and you need to defrost your front screen due to a rapid change of temperature?
Another great review from Elliot. Each time I watch one of his reviews I have to remind myself that we in the West have to wait a long time before these cars become available here in significant numbers and at the right price. All the same great reviews from Elliot on the things to come.
This video is categorizing the model as being competition for Tesla. However, it is likely a stronger competitor against vehicles from BYD, Li Auto, Nio and the rest of the Chinese EV makers who are making something similar. Xpeng can grow market share, reach scale production, and be positive cash flow on a faster timeline than originally projected. So, concluding Xpeng (with autopilot) may gain market share but the gain may not have a big effect on Tesla as much as it will on other Chinese manufacturers.
What's their margin on this car?
Who cares?
@reginald7214 They're almost certainly selling the car at a loss. It matters because if they cannot grow sales they won't stay in business. I just want to know how much money they're losing on each car.
@@jhunt5578 I see all your other comments are Tesla centric. Another fanboy here to talk sh*t under the guise of curiosity. Take your cult spam to a Tesla circle jerk video. Nobody lamer than the "margins" guy. Make sure that blue checkmark is paid up tho.
Indeed, it's easy to sell dollar bills for 90 cent. Surprisingly, XPeng makes huge losses AND fails to sell in larger quantities.
@@MattCasters another fanboy. Good lord, the hate army is out in force today. Profit us the only purpose, heil Elon. Heil trump etc...
I remember the good ol' days, when Fully Charged wasn't so... clickbaity
Nice model. Low base, very good efficiency, excellent boot and cabin space. They seem to have nailed the essentials. The weight is a bit strange though.
What's with the click-bait title? This doesn't bring any new challenges to Tesla. And nobody in their right mind, with the choice between this and a Model Y, would choose this thing. An "alleged" £23k for a base-spec, totally unproven, unrecognised manufacturer with zero support. I'm sure residual values will be about as buoyant as the Titan submarine...
I don’t think Tesla has much to worry about.
yep... Tesla's biggest enemy is Elon Musk these days. 😂😂
Xpeng need 10k+of these sold a month just to survive. Vs tesla sells nearly 100,000 model y a month right NOW globally not just in China!
With their 2 newest largest most efficient automated factories yet for building evs in, still ramping UP.
Tesla also has run the 2 most efficient automotive plants per sq ft on separate continents globally for 2+consecutive year's.
Good luck expeng you'll need it imo. The more evs sold anywhere globally the better in my book. 👍🏻😀
The model y is the only car more embarrassing looking than this car. They sell because it's a cult. Stop with the hysterical explanations.
@@onetwothreefour-s1n
You're a sad individual
@@onetwothreefour-s1n Hardly hysterical, Xpeng are not doing well financially. It's more hysterical talking about a car looking embarassing. Who really places importance on what their car looks like?!
@@onetwothreefour-s1nYou call them embarrassing to look at because you can’t afford one which makes you feel better about your circumstances.
@@0-Will-0 that might be the biggest cope in History. My god. Who cares what their car looks like? Holy sh*t. That was easily the most fanboy thing ever said. I used to be a fanboy so the ugly styling and terrible ride qualities and interiors always needed excuses. It got tiring. They are great, ugly vehicles made and bought by douch* bags in a cult of personality frenzy. I can help you regain your independent thought if you like. It is so rewarding. You'll never again have to say something so stupid.
This looks like a great car and a recent news release says that this will soon be coming to Malaysia in right hand drive guise. That will be awesome. Great job Xpeng!
I live in Thailand and EVs have started to be available here in the past year or so.
The main ones are the MG4, Ora Good Cat and the BYD Dolphin with prices in the range of £18,000 to £28,000.
A new one that has just come on sale is the NETA V, but I have yet to see any videos on this.
Original video title (because I'm sure they'll change it): "This Car Is Tesla’s Nightmare!"
That's lazy journalism. Come one guys..
And... changed
800 V architecture, super fast charging, hatchback, reasonable price. I want this car!
Surely you must have got the boot litre wrong. Every other review says aprox 100l more than you do, and "a thousands litres" with the seats down is just a finger in the air number and is probably 400 liter+++ more!
its amazing when you see the xpeng's in person!
Can’t be a Tesla killer if none of these niche models are only sold in China and the uk and not in the US where teslas is BASED
What? 400-450 liters of boot space? That won't sell well in Norway when the Model Y has approx 600 liters...
Xpeng P7 worths being mentioned as well, the only Chinese designed model outperforming Tesla in my personal opinion.
Im interested to know in which ways is it beating Tesla?..
@@db7948 it's got self driving! As in, you drive it yourself! As long as you live in China where it might be available.
Not another Chinese car that will cost 50% more when it reaches Europe... It will sell but only in very low numbers. Price is and remains the main door opener for these brands. I wonder why they still have not understood this...
Another Tesla slayer - ho hum!
headline P7 instead of G6 why?
Smorgasboard (smörgåsbord)--- as a norwegian I understand the word but had to google it even if it is swedish as the word at the first time surprised me and was unrecognizable when prononciated as English. It is literally translated "butter duck table (i.e. buffet table)" but I guess it means sandwich buffet/table/offering . What a weird word to absorb.
Most BEV "experts" still don't seem to grasp the essential concepts of Production Capacity, Production Efficiency, and Profit Margins. "Designed specifically to undercut and outperform the Tesla Model Y" means literally nothing when they can't also beat Tesla at those three core proficiencies.
A Michelin Chef's cooking can be the best in the world but they'll still never be more successful than McDonald's at feeding millions and making Billions.
I really love the XPENG SEPA 2.0 architecture with 800V battery architecture, front and rear die casting and Cell In Body (CIB) battery pack : it is all the most uptodate technological improvements finally available in one same car and technically better than Tesla Model Y.
That said, with all thise technical improvements, I am bit disappointed by the weight (I wish they could get it below or closer to 1700kg), and able to achieve a range of 580km/600km+ WLTP with 70kWh/75kWh battery pack for base model, and 720km/750km+ WLTP with 95kWh/100kWh battery pack with 4C charging rate even for the base model.
Also what about V2G/V2L functionalities : it would be great to get 11kW V2G capabilities and to have one 220V socket near back seats, and 2 two 220V sockets in the boot…
I also with for more USB-C socket on dashboard, and several in-cabin and out-cabin 4K / 8K audio and video camera enhanced with LIDAR to audio-video record inside and outside the car on a 20TB+ on-board flash storage, to be able to rent the car and keep recordings to monitor potential damages…
What you said is an idealized thing, which will increase the cost of buying a car.
Yes, I understand that, but it could be options on a higher end trim.
Like this, people that don’t want/need the option, would not have to pay for it (like autopilot option on Tesla cars)
@@nicolasdujarrierYou can choose G9, and G6 is positioned as a best-selling model.
Please correct the title with G6 instead of P7.
Now I'm feelin' so fly like a G6
bet you didn't get a expensive dinner, flown out to the car company's pr dept and put up in expensive hotels to write that title.
Does it come with a free fire extinguisher like byd
thats a nice crisp preview, thnx elliot!
Why is the title P7?
EV's are competing with ICE not others Ev's Stop clickbaiting.
Really? Why are people so bothered about it then?
I don't this is a "copycat" of model Y. They have totally different designs. You can't say they are alike just bcos they are both SUV EVs. It is a nice car but it is not a Model Y killer neither.
When are you guys coming to Brazil?
Definitely more beautiful than Model Y.
Can't see it selling well with that rear end styling and the rear window
I love the fact that you guys cover other EVs than Tesla, but really hate the fact that you're constantly shitting on Tesla. If anything EVs should kill ICE cars, not other EVs, so please stop it.
Do you need to fix the title? This I a G6 review not a P7, no?
Remember Proton? Most of these Tesla killers will leave buyers with unsaleable junk.
Does it use diesel/gasoline/petrol? Then it's all good as far as advancing *Tesla's* _mission._
You parroting a mission statement? You know those are just made up fluff right? How deep in the cult did you go? If you need help there are organisations that can help you regain your independent thought and be a free man again. It's life changing.
Nope, XPENG is BEV company
@@BryanLeung-sn7co
Missing the point there?
"It's all good"?
@@BryanLeung-sn7coDummy
Why isn't there any discussion about political influence when it comes to ev production? We discuss climate, we discuss capital, but we never discuss politics or policy. There is an eco/political reason why Chinese vehicles are "cheap".
Indeed, that's why Tesla are transferring there.
I think this will be a big seller for Xpeng. They seemed to have thrown everything in it for a good price ¥209,900 (£26k without import duties). In comparison
Nio & Li Auto cars seems expensive and it looks like better specs than BYD Atto3 & Dolphin.
You can now pickup a 2021 Tesla model 3 for £28k and they have a much stronger brand in the UK. So pricing this right in UK will be critical for Xpeng.
The MG4 has been selling well in the UK at about £26-£28k. If they can bring it to the UK at the similar price (not £35-40k) then it will be a hit.
According to Bard
'The cost of a ¥209,900 car in the UK including all import duties and taxes would be £32,987.00. This is calculated by adding the following costs to the car's original price:
Import duty: 10% of the car's original price = ¥20,990 = £2,518.80
VAT: 20% of the car's total price (including import duty) = £5,037.40'
They may need to sacrifice some profit for market share.
As a newcomer to amsterdam, must say I was sceptic but learned some interesting upsides. If we would go towards a car free city - which I think has some definite perks, I am curious how we would be able to move (as in, moving into a new house) if car access is becoming more strict.
Great review as always
I’d park that G6 next to my G6 (Pontiac) 😂 it really is a good looking vehicle 😊 excellent review
I can’t put my finger on it but I’m starting to get some brought to you by our friends at the CCP vibes from some of these video’s.
...indeed because there's no "America's still the bestest" editorial to it. Imagine foreigners thinking foreign stuff is better - the cheek!
@@timmurphy5541 You’re barking up the wrong tree on this one. I live not far from the channel owner. Anyway, Like I said. I can’t quite put my finger on it, There’s something a little odd about how willing to forgive problems along with a liberal peppering with incredibly evocative words thats got my spidy senses tingling.
@@andylane7142I agree, the Chinese EV FC reviews are veering into straight up shilling
Videos
@@Nickbaldeagle02 Lol. I’m completely blind. Autocorrect apostrophised the word which I’m really not concerned about. It took 90 seconds with a screen reader trying to navigate to the word you were referring to to see what on earth could be wrong. When I finally got there, all I could think was does it really matter.
Do they sell them in the UK?
According to data I have seen the boot is 571 litres
XPENG G6: 508 TOPS
Tesla: 10 TOPS
Does it work. Is it efficient. Is it cheaper. Can it be serviced.
I can't afford a used Tesla so I need some way in to ev.
Plenty of inexpensive EV’s in California. Where are you located?
Wife and I each have a BEV. Bought a BEV for each of my kids.
And have two more BEV’s on preorder. The money I saved owning my first EV led to buying the second, and so forth.
Spoilt kids
@@bikeman123 my daughter has already paid off her car. And my son is working to pay back mom and dad interest-free. They both graduated with honors and serve their communities. Don’t make assumptions about other people’s kids as they only make an ass out of you. Have a good day.
@@evolv.e Thanks for your reply. It has inspired me to keep looking in the UK. Its good to know you have made it work. Appreciated
Super fast charging (faster than tesla), very smart XNGP self driving and good cruising range, what else do u want?
how about service centers and otc software updates? They don't exist for this car. Yes, these are the issues besides pricing.
I love the look, the front reminds me a bit of a 5th gen toyota celica - a car i dreamed about but had to can when i sat in one due to no headroom...... would have loved to buy a P7 but they dont sell them in the uk so went for an ipace instead.
As a Chinese guy I wish Chinese evs made Tesla killers but the Chinese cars are not looking good
Useful insight from Elliot on what’s coming from China - thanks
Xpeng and Tesla do not like HUD and I do not like cars without an HUD (all my car since 2005 had it) - show stopper for me
so the did NOT stuck everything
Do they have a supercharger network......... if not, its not a Tesla beater really then is it.
2.2k chargers right now, 500 more super charger in this year
No, but they do use the 800V charging standard where there’s no place to charge it using that standard so your just charging it at home like every other non-Tesla EV.
@@jezza6575
Maybe if they were smart enough to make the vehicles backward compatible?
(Anyway, Tesla V4 coming soon)
looks like mazda3 sedan + the model y. nice job
Xpeng are the TESLA killers though , Self Driving and Models targeting the Model Y and S .
Perhaps I missed it in the video but I checked via Google - NGP stands for Navigation Guided Pilot.
New Game Plan
No Golf Please
Now Go Play
I could do this all day
It's the NIO that's going to sell. Looks great, great interior and swappable batteries.
Try
"This could be Fords, GMs, Volvos (etc) worst nightmare" ?
So they still want buttons in their cars, just not for air con, stereo, etc. which is where I want buttons. I want to go as far back in time as the gear stick being on the steering column. I want buttons and dials for most functions again. Power windows and side mirrors can stay. Reverse camera can stay. Car navigation can stay. I'm not fussed about levers or buttons for door opening. Extra storage space is welcome, especially if one of the new storage areas could be temperature controlled. I also love my sunnies having their own compartment. It is very convenient. Having charging ports in the rear passenger area can stay too.
Why do they make them so fugly? They only electric car I liked (and have driven) is Honda E. If technology is advanced it doesn't mean that the car has to be a generic quasi-futuristic mess.
It would be good if you could make a show about what it would really take to produce, distribute and service a genuine Tesla competitor in the UK. It's not just about the cars, is it? I'm not an EV owner, i only clock up about 4,500 miles a year and car ownership doesn't make economic sense when there's good car club availability, but surely a major strength of Tesla is that they're selling a complete system, including an exclusive charging network, and not just cars. Also, it seems reasonable to expect that Tesla will be around for a few years whereas this manufacturer - apparently dependent on a single vehicle and subject to the whim of PRC state bureaucracts, could disappear into a memory hole at any moment leaving owners stranded. Or am i wrong?
The headline of this article shows how ignorant Fully Charged can be. It is the worst nightmare of those who manufacture ICE cars, not Tesla.
It's "Disappointing", isn't it?
They didn't bow to your God! How awful!
@@timmurphy5541
Sad person alert.
Get over it.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Saying "get over it" is quite funny. Lots of people in the UK try that nowadays as if they think it could achieve something but it usually means they are running low on bullshit.
@@timmurphy5541 Why are you on this channel if you don't care about sustainability?
Car salesman that's scared that Tesla and Chinese EVs are disrupting the market? Too bad, progress waits for no one, so stop crying and go find a new job.
%Reviewers do not give Tessla’s OTA updates enough credit. Our car is quite different after < 1 year and will only improve from there.
To be successful, XPeng need to come to UK/Europe and sell at really competitive and attractive prices. NOT like BYD who are asking as much as a Tesla and wondering why they are not selling any?
Xpeng P7 original design!? It's a carbon copy of a Tesla Model S
Robert, can you team do segment about the cost of public charger.
The prices are out of control and inconsistent.
Who and where?
Personally, I'd prefer an investigation regarding the high price of power to consumers, considering that the wholesale price to Utilities is at or below the price it was 3 years ago.
When THEY stop profiteering, we can chase the charging companies... Eh
@@rogerstarkey5390 I'm referring to UK prices. I have been in the UK for 1 month and blown away by the prices. Saw one at £0.79/kWh and couldn't believe it.
Nice looking car!
If they can't break through the 10k per month production rate, Tesla has nothing to worry about.
Do they have a Supercharger network?
Yes
@@Nickbaldeagle02 strange, I’ve never come across an XPeng charger, the must be all in China
@@OldManTony there's several in your house.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 home charging is always useful when you are travelling
Tesla wont be worried.
Its Toyota that should be worried.
Clickbait title. Downvoted.
Why all the anti-Tesla headlines these days? Tesla pretty much started the whole BEV movement. We should be celebrating the company, not knocking it. And, btw, I really like Xpeng too. In fact, I'm a shareholder.
Because fanboys are awful people who hate all other evs and Elon turned out to be a huge douchebag just in it for the clout. Cult of personality gave us trump as well. Maybe we should quit worshipping people?
Welcome to 2023 and the easily led confirmation bias crowd.... 🤷
Bad investment right there
@@jezza6575 Well, we'll see. 😋