I've just ordered one of these to replace my Lowepro that finally succumbed to wear and tear yesterday in the forest. It’s a big investment for me being a retired pensioner on a limited income so I really hope it lasts at least five years. Thanks for the vid.
First off, Nick, I appreciate that you're not sponsored or supported by gear companies. Photogs who are sponsored or tag every post with the gear they use have ZERO credibility when they review those products. Ian, I appreciate that you're weighing in and responding to posts. Regarding the bag(s), it's only a matter of time (probably not much) before you take my money. Looks sweet. Lot's of great features. I have many FStop bags, but there are enough improvements here that are hard to resist. First, and biggest is the roll top. I LOVE this, especially with the access zipper. Could even be a little taller, in my opinion. I hate zipper lids that prohibit any expansion. Personally, I always use an Fstop tripod bag, (both for carrying tripods and stuffing other gear when needed) attached to both sides. Happy to see that it looks like those will still work well on these Shimoda bags. I'm always surprised not to see many other people using them. They weigh little, and Keep your tripod incognito and protected, and are good for storage, light stands, etc. They are excellent, and Shimoda would do well to implement something similar. It's nice that zippers are splash proof, but the Main compartment zipper, which houses the expensive / delicate stuff, is not. Surely there must be a way to protect this zipper too. Thanks for the review, Nick
HI thanks for nice good comments. I think 2 things I can comment on,.. RE: Sponsored photogs. Speaking for Shimoda, we don't sponsor people who don't like our gear. I understand your perspective, but most of the guys we work with, use our bags because they want to. I am fairly sure they use our bag because they work for them. So to say they have ZERO credibility, I think is a bit over stated. IMO. From my perspective these are some of the best photogs on the planet who have personally helped develop the product. I think they are just as credible as anyone. (At least in our camp) RE: Zippers: We can't use water-resistant zippers on the rear access because of the sharp corners. It will wear the the PU coating and eventually break. As it is we use number 10 size because the are the most robust, even the smaller of same family break down with that much use and sharp corners. Zippers are best used when straight. Thanks again for the good words and I appreciate the tripod bag remarks, it's alway been a product I liked and always felt was under appreciated. Ian
Really wish they would make this bag in a 20 liter daybag.... I have the hardest time finding a "comfortable" bag that carries 1 mirrorless body and 2 lenses. There are bags that do it...but none that are quality or of professional features. just cheapos that always fail. Im not a youtuber so minimal gear needed for a day hike up a trail to a falls. Tenba made their Solstice bags but they seem to not carry a tripod in an efficient way like the Shimoda. the colors are spot on...so since they seem to listen to you... hit em up with we need an 18-20 liter version for the whiny guy! Awesome review as always Nick.
It's definitely something I have thought about, unfortunately we were just not ready to do it yet. Need to sort through some design adjustments first. It requires a structural change (from these) and I need to work that out better.
Nice Bit of Kit...Its Good That You Mentioned That You carry a First Aid Kit...Essential. .Recently had to use mine to help another Photographer Who gashed His Arm on A Rock (17 Stitches required at a nearby hospital). Good review.
Thanks for your review. As soon as I saw the Kickstarter, I backed it right away. I’m a smaller female and do a lot of backpacking, so the 50L seems like it will be exactly what I need for carrying my camera gear as well as camp essentials for multi-day trips.
Prices rarely go down for materials used in backpacks (and almost everything else). When pricing increases its because of materials and the technicality of the construction, manufacturing process and the complications of the logistics involved. With most packs, you really do get what you pay for. When something is cheap... there is reason and its not because the company is run by a bunch of nice guys who want you to save your money... :)
@@ShimodaDesigns I think these bags should be more padded, I mean exterior, this is a main reason right now why I'm not hitting place order button. I'm not sure, got feeling that it will not give me enough protection from impacts. Unlike for example Vanguard alta sky 53 or similar, it seems to me that it lacks at least some kind of stiffness.
Went for the 70L I Can always under pack if needed but if I do choose to bring camping gear or say a jetboil , some food and coffee I can. Thanks for your time Nick
Great review and a really nice bag. I love the roll-top option, which allows you to pack any extra gear, say coat, gloves, waterproofs etc when needed and is rolled up and out of the way when not in use, but still accessible/usable via the zip!..great idea. It looks very durable and very good build quality and also a good looking bag, pretty slick imo. I'm definitely considering getting one, mainly for landscape/woodland photography and I think the 30L will be ample for my needs and a days ramble out in the field...oh, and the fact that it's pretty much waterproof and waterproof zips is a major plus.
I’ve got an older fstop bag which is brilliant but just a little short in the back. I’m actually thinking about the 70litre for backpacking as I’m intending to do a fair bit over the next few years!
I struggle to find a good camera bag I’m only 5ft and don’t want anything that looks huge and is huge on my back, 30l is my limit and these look nice, will definitely give them a good look.
Same here I'm 5" 2" and have the Shimoda 40L (original version) very uncomfortable backpack for me even with the harness in the small setting. I'm a experienced backpacker and these bags just don't fit shorter people very well.
My 1st gen 60L works just fine as a carry on, but I suspect that Action X 70 L might tip the balance when loaded. Thanks for mentioning the Action X 50 L works fine as a carry on. Digging that black color option.
Thanks for the review it was helpful. I was eyeing and am on the fence about the 70L myself only due to the fact that it accepts the new DV ICU's - trying to find a better bag to carry an 8x10 / holders / lenses into the field more comfortably - so kind of cool they now have an option. But, that 50L you showed looks really nice for just doing the normal digital haul.
That roll top is like the ones on dry bags, easy to access! I wish they’d put a water bottle holder on the front because I can’t reach it when it’s on the side back. I do like the side access. My 30L is only 2 months old, I wish I’d known this one was coming up and I’d have waited for it. Thanks for the awesome unbiased review!
I recently got the Atlas Athlete, do really like it but the camera area seems a little too slim so been thinking about a Shimoda, I think Im more on the 30L size though as I tend to only be out for a day at a time as Im usually in a hotel at night :D
Oh dang I absolute love the bag and the old Sea Pine color. Now the only thing that keep me hesitant for this new one is the boring black and weird army green. 😂
@@ShimodaDesigns Lol, so true. One thing I see often is criticism over the "looks" of the bag, personally I couldn't disagree more and love that the bag doesn't draw attention or scream "expensive stuff inside, come steal me". Most people don't even realize it's a camera bag and I like that.
The 50 seems like a good replacement for my Gen 1 f-stop Loka, but I’m also not sure if it really offers me more than what I have now. I would definitely like the separation between camera cube and main compartment however, something that is oddly missing on f-stop bags. These straps seem a bit better than the f-stop ones as well
The early f-stop bags had pretty thin straps. The newer versions are much better but I’ll still take the comfort of the Shimoda... I do love the look of the f-stop bags though
Love my shimoda 60, most comfortable well thought out backpack. Liking the new colours and 2 side pockets, not sure on the role top or the new waist strap.🤔. But my 60 still going strong so no need to upgrade just yet 😊 thanks for the review 👌👌
I was a little ticked off at first, since I just ordered my 40L about 2 months ago, now I'm not sure....only real big difference I see is the color, I might stick with my dark blue.
Roll top; I think, at first blush, an odd choice for a camera back pack. I do have the roll top on several motorcycle soft bags and they work well; especially for those times your luggage volume varies. So maybe they are on to something.
great review. i love this color. after watching your video i've decided to get the green one! btw, i have the explorer 40L and my macbook pro touchbar 15 fit just fine
Nice review. Appreciate you pointing out the drawback to the magnetic clip. I ordered an X30L. Overall, this seems like it has some nice improvements over the original 30L.
Just to clarify, the magnetic clip isn't needed all the time, its something you want on a long haul to keep the bag closer to your back. If your not using it it quickly tucks in the belts stretch pockets. - ian
I probably should’ve mentioned it, but this is supposed to be a separate camera bag line it’s not replacing the original two bags it’s just a different set of bags
Thanks for responding to my shocking experience on Shimoda's newest range of action bags, I can assure you my X50 has not lasted well on my first few seascape photography outings and it's a shame Shimoda chose to use a poorer material on the base of the bag the actual area where most abrasion occurs. If they had continued with the coated ripstop reinforced nylon as used over their ranges to date this weakness would probably never has come to light. They claim the base is newly reinforced, but this is with an inferior finish to the bags main material. It won't last like the rest of the bag and damage has occurred very quickly on mine. I am upset as this bag was at the top end of my budget, and I haven't yet been able to afford the additional cost of the insert. I don't get given free products unfortunately to write glittering reviews so I can boost sales. P.S. I'm no gear hater, rather the contrary I was recommended the Shimoda range by a friend who had the earlier bag, but I can see you will buy into a brand regardless, good luck with yours.
I purchased one of their bags earlier this year based upon your fine review and the good reviews of several other photographers and now I can say I too love mine. But I will say that their customer service is poor at best. I had a few pre-order questions that I tried to get answers to. I tried e-mailing and never got a response. I called the CS number on their website and left voice messages and never got a return call. Somehow I found out that the MAC Group was filling their orders for them so I called them but I could not get anyone to talk to there either. This was all very frustrating because I was leaving for a trip to Europe and I had these pre-order questions so I just ended up buying more ICUs than I needed and sending back the rest before leaving on my trip. Again, a good product but bad CS.
Hi Mark, sorry to hear about your experience. We are a unique brand where we are not a stand alone operation, we share resources with numerous other brands. This can lead to a bit of a watered down CS experience some times. But, sharing resources allows me to put more resources in product developed and moving the brand forward. I put my personal email out in many places and most of the CS emails we get come directly to me - you are always welcome to try me at ian@shimodadesigns.com - Ian
Shimoda Designs thank you Ian. At this time I have no further questions and I’m enjoying my pack! At the time it was extremely frustrating because I could not find the answer on the Shimoda website. Since I had travel reservations already set I had to over purchase and then return what would not fit because I did not know what size(s) of Core Units would fit in the Explorer 30 and I needed them for a trip to Europe. So it cost me lots of time and unnecessary shipping fees. The animated Gif for the Explorer 30 on the product page would probably have answered my question if it rotated slower and was a larger size so that I could have studied it more closely.
The ONLY thing I'm not crazy about with the Explore 60 (first generation large Shimoda bag) is that you have to remove the frame in order for it to be "carry on" size. It looks like this X 50 is just smaller enough to be a carry on? Would love to know your experience with that, Nick. Other than that, Shimoda has served me reliably and comfortably well through downpours in Iceland and icy Nor'Easters in CT. Thanks for another relatable and honest review, NP
@@SirTomster1 I'd always be worried though about that one time the airline said it was a no-go, that puts you in a bad situation. Airlines also change the rules and level of enforcement with different times.
Definitely considering the 50L. I was hoping to see what core unit you use and more info on that since you have Sony bodies as I do with L bracket. Not sure if the mirrorless core unit is enough or I need the DSLR
I am actually using the Large ICU.. I typically have two bodies with lenses mounted. plus two more lenses not mounted... I carry a 100-400, 24-105, 16-35 and 18mm prime. plus filters and mic all in my Core Unit.. the rest go in the top compartment
I think it would certainly work, although these materials are heavier than the typical hiking pack. So it would start off with a heavier base weight which is not ideal
I was so not Down on the Rolltop.....Until I saw the zipper access..SOld! very cool.. I had the 40L and now the 60L (much improved), but like the 40L being a big bag was so tiny for bulking jackets etc... the Rolltop on all sizes is a simple and great solution.The Zip out bags or whatever they are called- haven't been a fan, was actually just hoping to see a dedicated side pockets- those are actually just useful (shimoda is kinda just overthinking that part of the bag imho). Overall looks like a great gen 2.
I wish I'd chosen the 60 over the 40 myself, not an issue in the summer but when the weather gets colder and you need to stow that heavy jacket while exerting yourself that extra room is needed. On the other hand I went with the 40 to be carry-on compliant, not sure the 60 is, the 50 though seems to be the best solution with the expandable top portion.
Hi, biased insider info but, when the bag is on the left shoulder tends to slip off easier and create an awkward body position try to keep it in place. When its on your right shoulder, your right elbow pinches the bag keeping it place. This issue increases with more weight. So thats why its on the right. - Ian
Not sure if it's enough to justify the upgrade to the action x series from the explorer series. The Explore series is expensive after the Kickstarter campaign.
Awesome looking bag, seems very practical, my current bag will only carry photo gear, this would be awesome, love both colours. Seems like it will be expensive when you add the options.
I love my Action X50! It is by far the best bag I’ve ever tried. I have LowePro bags (which are very nice), Peak Design bags…great quality but not functional…Shimoda just hit it out of the park with this one!!!
Thanks, Nick. I have had the X30 for about 20 months now. I love it. Had the earlier Shimoda bag. Changed it out for the Atlas Athlete (which I now need to sell) which had a lot of features I preferred over the original Shimoda bag - but I struggled a bit with the fit. With this new bag Shimoda has addressed all those features and made a number of other improvements and the fit is awesome. One question, do you find that accessory pouch useful - that one hanging on the outside. I ordered it with my kit but never received it. I'm wondering if I should cancel it or press them on it. Oh, and I accidentally ordered a set of ICU dividers but I mistakenly ordered the DSLR dividers, not the "mirrorless" size. They don't work with my mirrorless ICU and the shipping to return them is as much as the price. So I wouldn't save any money sending them back. Do you want them? Ha ha! Oh, and it is hilarious that the F4 crew all have the Shimoda bags in green.
I was wondering if you were going to do a review of it. Saw BVS the other day. I’m curious as to the accessories. I noticed the long thin pouch plus the pouch you had attached to the side. I’m thinking of getting to 50L.
Yeah they’ve came out with a few new accessories I’m not sure if that’s already on their store or not I believe it is. I really like the new accessory pouches.. very handy
They certainly sent out quite a few copies. But at least it’s a relevant pertinent piece of gear. I think most people are in search of the perfect camera bag
Nick Page the search for the perfect unicorn bag will always exist bc we always get new gear! It’s a never ending cycle and I’m glad we have folks like Nick Page to suffer with us and to learn from haha
Cody Lere Photography It’s pretty crazy how much anti-gear review sentiment there is these days. I personally love watching reviews of new gear and seeing what’s out there, but so many people think I’m just a walking commercial If I give my opinions on a piece of gear
Hey Nick, I’m about to get a Shimoda. Is this an affiliate link or should I just pre-order from B&H as per usual? I know you guys probably don’t get much out of those links anyway, but figured I’d ask-least I can do after you revolutionized my Photoshop skills...
I wanted one, but even now July 22 2020 the action line is not available ANYWHERE, so I went on and got a F-stop, pretty happy but I still want a Shimoda, GAS lol !!!
I just bought a 40L pro kit 3 to 4 weeks ago. I really wish I had known these were coming at that time. The 50L in black would have been the one I would have ordered instead. 😪😪
I have the Shimoda explore 40, and the women’s technical straps. I use a peak capture clip v3 with no problem. I would expect it to work the same on this bag.
It seems every plane I took this past year had a different sized over head space, but it fit in all of them. If you can get it a deep one, the quick access zipper is nice for getting at your personal items without pulling it out of the overhead. - Ian
Howard L. Smith as a 5’3” woman I can say this is the most comfortable bag I’ve owned. I carry 20lbs if gear and fly overseas with it, I’m super happy with it!
CJamesPhoto yeah me too! I’m really liking the bag so far. Literally filled it up for the first time yesterday and am on the first day of a trip with it.
CJamesPhoto yeah so far so good. Took it on 3 flights yesterday and will likely even have it out in the rain in the next couple days. I’ll be able to compare it to that new one tomorrow with the Master Landscape Photographer Nick Page. 😆 (Assuming that’s the one he will have).
Hey Nick, since the Kickstarter project has ended, do you have an affiliate or discount link you can post for those of us who missed the project deadline? Looking forward to getting this backpack before the end of year. I'd like to have it prior to my Glacier trip in July 2020.
OOo so this is what Ian was talking about when he replied to my comment on a previous video .... I like both the colors..green works well if you have one of the new green iPhones... haha !!
I was actually thinking about switching my 40l to the new 50l bag until I realized that the 50l weighs 600g more (empty) than the 40l bag. That's almost the weight of two batis lenses I usually carry around :) Even the new 30l bag is 400g heavier than the old 40l bag. The big top compartment of the new models would be appreciated though.
Hi Nick, because this 50L is a little bit bigger than the old 40L, does it still be compatible with the regulations for carry-on baggage? The Shimoda Action X 50L at all looks really good.
Interesting that you said this 50 seems roomier than the old 60, I currently own the 40 and find in the winter it's a bit small for jackets and extra clothes, in many ways wish I'd gotten the 60. I"m wondering how big the 70 really is, from your review it seems it's enormous. I'm curious if they beefed up the buckle some, I found the waist buckle to seem flimsy and while it hasn't broken yet would prefer something heavier duty like those on my backpacks which are also easier to buckle. It's great to see these companies listening to us and making revisions accordingly.
Consider the buckle beefed up. Its why we will make a new Belt Booster to fit Action X (as Nick mention in the video). I may have made the mistake of not using precise liter naming with the Explore series, there is a bit of tolerance in the numerical naming. The X50 is about the same size as the 60. You can max the 50 at 57L and bring it down to a very small amount (much less than 50) with the compression straps.
Do you feel the straps are any different comfort wise to the original straps? Are they different at all in construction as in the way that they curve? How about the straps on the 70 L are they more comfortable?
The straps are pretty much identical from the original, with the exception of the larger pockets and the ones designed for women. The ones on the 70 L I believe are the same straps as the smaller bags
That Black bag looks awesome, so its a maybe as I am in the market for a camera bag. Been looking at the limited options in the 40 to 50L class. Question on the REI rain coats, do they hows the durability of them?
I must have missed it, but what's the ICU size on this? I'm guessing it's the large DSLR setup? Been scratching my head looking for one that would fit the 100-400 with camera attached such as how you kept it inside
Hi nick! Thanks for your detalied review! I want to buy this bag but I am not sure which core unit to buy. Midium DSLR Unit? Mideum Mirrorless core unit? Or large DSLR Unit. May I know which one do you use? As the DSLR core unit is 40mm thicker than the mirrorless core unit, will the bag looks too thick when the DSLR core unit packed in? I have a7r3 with 1635F4 55 and 70-200F4, plus mavic2pro with three batteries.
@@NickPage Thank you a lot for your quick reply! Ok I think I also need the large unit! one more thing, do you know if the X50 rear laptop case can hold the macbook pro 16inch ?
Hello Nick, will the 50 liters be capable of a piece of carry-on luggage on a plane? Ps. What was that little black pouch on the outside of the pack used for?
Yeah I’ve flown a couple times with it. It’s on as carry-on no problem. I typically just put lens cloths and camera batteries in that little pouch. It’s nice to have a little external pouch for quick access stuff
It kind of is, but as long as I sell off the older version... I look at it like I am renting for the length I on the camera. So in the case of the a 7R3 I rented it for two years for about $800-$1000
Seems a great bag. Just a shame they don’t do a wildlife long lens version as the weight, rugged style and space for waterproofs would seem perfect but unless I am missing something, the large DSLR cube is too small for even a 400 mm f2.8 (it’s just long enough for the lens off the camera but it’s not deep enough for the lens diameter)
Thanks. It looks on their website that this larger cube only fits in the X70 (the extra large DV is listed under the X70 but not the X50 but perhaps I have misunderstood this). I will have a look at the X70 but it does seem massive, where the X50 seems a better overall size.
@@johnharvey1786 Hi John, just to clarify The X70 fit all Core Units, for super tele, you will want the DV Series for best comfort, but I have seen bigger glass in the Large DSLR (colby brown has posted images before). You can make the X70 seems really big, but at the same time it can' compress down a lot and be just about the same size as the X50. Most people are surprised when I wear my X70, and find out its not the X50.
Shimoda Designs I ordered the X70 with the DV cube via the Kickstarter promotion but as you know this has not gone well from a customer perspective. Great marketing campaign but not so good on production and delivery (unfortunately this is the modern way) and therefore with no delivery in sight It seems unlikely I will be able to take the bag on my trip this January. I hope when I eventually receive my bag it’s as good as it looks on Nicks video.
Obviously not seeing it in person, I think a cinch-closure top with a lid/brain would be better. More common among backpacking bags - you still get expandable storage AND you'd have (ideally) a lid with at least one extra quick-access compartment at the top
Of the three I've seen, yours is the only one that suggests the need for a first aid kit in your kit! Kudos!
I've just ordered one of these to replace my Lowepro that finally succumbed to wear and tear yesterday in the forest. It’s a big investment for me being a retired pensioner on a limited income so I really hope it lasts at least five years. Thanks for the vid.
First off, Nick, I appreciate that you're not sponsored or supported by gear companies. Photogs who are sponsored or tag every post with the gear they use have ZERO credibility when they review those products. Ian, I appreciate that you're weighing in and responding to posts.
Regarding the bag(s), it's only a matter of time (probably not much) before you take my money. Looks sweet. Lot's of great features. I have many FStop bags, but there are enough improvements here that are hard to resist. First, and biggest is the roll top. I LOVE this, especially with the access zipper. Could even be a little taller, in my opinion. I hate zipper lids that prohibit any expansion.
Personally, I always use an Fstop tripod bag, (both for carrying tripods and stuffing other gear when needed) attached to both sides. Happy to see that it looks like those will still work well on these Shimoda bags. I'm always surprised not to see many other people using them. They weigh little, and Keep your tripod incognito and protected, and are good for storage, light stands, etc. They are excellent, and Shimoda would do well to implement something similar.
It's nice that zippers are splash proof, but the Main compartment zipper, which houses the expensive / delicate stuff, is not. Surely there must be a way to protect this zipper too.
Thanks for the review, Nick
HI thanks for nice good comments. I think 2 things I can comment on,..
RE: Sponsored photogs. Speaking for Shimoda, we don't sponsor people who don't like our gear. I understand your perspective, but most of the guys we work with, use our bags because they want to. I am fairly sure they use our bag because they work for them. So to say they have ZERO credibility, I think is a bit over stated. IMO. From my perspective these are some of the best photogs on the planet who have personally helped develop the product. I think they are just as credible as anyone. (At least in our camp)
RE: Zippers: We can't use water-resistant zippers on the rear access because of the sharp corners. It will wear the the PU coating and eventually break. As it is we use number 10 size because the are the most robust, even the smaller of same family break down with that much use and sharp corners. Zippers are best used when straight.
Thanks again for the good words and I appreciate the tripod bag remarks, it's alway been a product I liked and always felt was under appreciated. Ian
Really wish they would make this bag in a 20 liter daybag.... I have the hardest time finding a "comfortable" bag that carries 1 mirrorless body and 2 lenses. There are bags that do it...but none that are quality or of professional features. just cheapos that always fail. Im not a youtuber so minimal gear needed for a day hike up a trail to a falls. Tenba made their Solstice bags but they seem to not carry a tripod in an efficient way like the Shimoda. the colors are spot on...so since they seem to listen to you... hit em up with we need an 18-20 liter version for the whiny guy! Awesome review as always Nick.
It's definitely something I have thought about, unfortunately we were just not ready to do it yet. Need to sort through some design adjustments first. It requires a structural change (from these) and I need to work that out better.
Nice Bit of Kit...Its Good That You Mentioned That You carry a First Aid Kit...Essential. .Recently had to use mine to help another Photographer Who gashed His Arm on A Rock (17 Stitches required at a nearby hospital). Good review.
Heck of a gash. Thanks for the story, I'm putting one in my kit this week.
Thanks for your review. As soon as I saw the Kickstarter, I backed it right away. I’m a smaller female and do a lot of backpacking, so the 50L seems like it will be exactly what I need for carrying my camera gear as well as camp essentials for multi-day trips.
Thank you for backing :)
These bags are getting better and better, prices are getting more and more insane as well.
Prices rarely go down for materials used in backpacks (and almost everything else). When pricing increases its because of materials and the technicality of the construction, manufacturing process and the complications of the logistics involved. With most packs, you really do get what you pay for. When something is cheap... there is reason and its not because the company is run by a bunch of nice guys who want you to save your money... :)
@@ShimodaDesigns I think these bags should be more padded, I mean exterior, this is a main reason right now why I'm not hitting place order button. I'm not sure, got feeling that it will not give me enough protection from impacts. Unlike for example Vanguard alta sky 53 or similar, it seems to me that it lacks at least some kind of stiffness.
@@lev_anni Hi, the Core Unit which protects and holds your camera is padded with High density EVA.
Went for the 70L I Can always under pack if needed but if I do choose to bring camping gear or say a jetboil , some food and coffee I can. Thanks for your time Nick
Great review and a really nice bag. I love the roll-top option, which allows you to pack any extra gear, say coat, gloves, waterproofs etc when needed and is rolled up and out of the way when not in use, but still accessible/usable via the zip!..great idea.
It looks very durable and very good build quality and also a good looking bag, pretty slick imo.
I'm definitely considering getting one, mainly for landscape/woodland photography and I think the 30L will be ample for my needs and a days ramble out in the field...oh, and the fact that it's pretty much waterproof and waterproof zips is a major plus.
Thank you! - Ian
I’ve got an older fstop bag which is brilliant but just a little short in the back. I’m actually thinking about the 70litre for backpacking as I’m intending to do a fair bit over the next few years!
Nice bag! The roll top comes from dry bags used in canoeing. At least on dry bags, how many times you roll it helps to keep different load sizes tidy.
I struggle to find a good camera bag I’m only 5ft and don’t want anything that looks huge and is huge on my back, 30l is my limit and these look nice, will definitely give them a good look.
Same here I'm 5" 2" and have the Shimoda 40L (original version) very uncomfortable backpack for me even with the harness in the small setting. I'm a experienced backpacker and these bags just don't fit shorter people very well.
My 1st gen 60L works just fine as a carry on, but I suspect that Action X 70 L might tip the balance when loaded. Thanks for mentioning the Action X 50 L works fine as a carry on. Digging that black color option.
Good job, Nick. Ready to put mine to work!
Nick how about a video comparing Shimoda Action and Atlas athlete backpack?
Great review Nick, thanks for the in depth information. My camera backpack is getting worn. I may end up buying this bag.
Backing it, I wanted one since I saw you review the first one, 50x, black with the tech straps for me, Christmas and birthday present to myself
Such a good camera bag, one of the best available today! Great review Nick, solid points... And the new colors are awesome too!
Thanks Ty.
Thanks for the review it was helpful. I was eyeing and am on the fence about the 70L myself only due to the fact that it accepts the new DV ICU's - trying to find a better bag to carry an 8x10 / holders / lenses into the field more comfortably - so kind of cool they now have an option. But, that 50L you showed looks really nice for just doing the normal digital haul.
I have so many bags so many have good ideas love them side pockets
Thanks for reviewing the bag Nick! One thing I missed; can you perhaps tell what size insertion / core unit you had in your bag?
That roll top is like the ones on dry bags, easy to access! I wish they’d put a water bottle holder on the front because I can’t reach it when it’s on the side back. I do like the side access. My 30L is only 2 months old, I wish I’d known this one was coming up and I’d have waited for it. Thanks for the awesome unbiased review!
HI you can fit a 750ml water bottle on the front strap. Its not as stretchy as the Explore Series but does fit well. - Ian
I recently got the Atlas Athlete, do really like it but the camera area seems a little too slim so been thinking about a Shimoda, I think Im more on the 30L size though as I tend to only be out for a day at a time as Im usually in a hotel at night :D
Oh dang I absolute love the bag and the old Sea Pine color. Now the only thing that keep me hesitant for this new one is the boring black and weird army green. 😂
... you make sea pine, they tell you to make black - you make black, they tell you make sea pine ｢(ﾟﾍﾟ) - can't win :)
@@ShimodaDesigns Lol, so true. One thing I see often is criticism over the "looks" of the bag, personally I couldn't disagree more and love that the bag doesn't draw attention or scream "expensive stuff inside, come steal me". Most people don't even realize it's a camera bag and I like that.
The 50 seems like a good replacement for my Gen 1 f-stop Loka, but I’m also not sure if it really offers me more than what I have now. I would definitely like the separation between camera cube and main compartment however, something that is oddly missing on f-stop bags. These straps seem a bit better than the f-stop ones as well
The early f-stop bags had pretty thin straps. The newer versions are much better but I’ll still take the comfort of the Shimoda... I do love the look of the f-stop bags though
Nice review Nick! I'm surprised you didn't get the 70L, you know, for that problem we seem to have, lol.
Just how much hemorrhoid cream do you take on a trip?
Just how much hemorrhoid cream do you take on a trip?
Tim Corso lots, I use it to keep my skin moist and wrinkle free
I like the roll top, same design as a dry bag. I would think the 70L would be better for a 600mm prime and wildlife photography.
When I was in the market for a Camara bag. The reason I did not buy a shimoda was because of the color choices. I like the new colors.
Love my shimoda 60, most comfortable well thought out backpack. Liking the new colours and 2 side pockets, not sure on the role top or the new waist strap.🤔. But my 60 still going strong so no need to upgrade just yet 😊 thanks for the review 👌👌
I was a little ticked off at first, since I just ordered my 40L about 2 months ago, now I'm not sure....only real big difference I see is the color, I might stick with my dark blue.
Roll top; I think, at first blush, an odd choice for a camera back pack. I do have the roll top on several motorcycle soft bags and they work well; especially for those times your luggage volume varies. So maybe they are on to something.
great review. i love this color. after watching your video i've decided to get the green one!
btw, i have the explorer 40L and my macbook pro touchbar 15 fit just fine
I am thinking of getting the x70 just because of all the gear I want to bring when I go out!
I think you would be surprised by how much fits in the 50L.. but the 70 is a great bag as well i am sure
With all of these features and design of the bag it sure looks a lot better than the Atlas Packs. Nice review Nick.
Nice review. Appreciate you pointing out the drawback to the magnetic clip. I ordered an X30L. Overall, this seems like it has some nice improvements over the original 30L.
Just to clarify, the magnetic clip isn't needed all the time, its something you want on a long haul to keep the bag closer to your back. If your not using it it quickly tucks in the belts stretch pockets. - ian
Thanks for the video. Very nice daylight helps to appreciate the details of the bag compare to other youtubeur👍🇪🇺
Did that Accessory Pouch fits a large phone?
Really cool bag. Just did a 4mil in a very bad fitting camera bag and I'm still feeling the pain.
Great review. I've got the Shimoda 40 already though - which is great. I'm not clear that an upgrade is really necessary.
I probably should’ve mentioned it, but this is supposed to be a separate camera bag line it’s not replacing the original two bags it’s just a different set of bags
Nick Page Got it. But it'd be a de facto upgrade from the buyer's point of view, of course.
Don't listen to the gear review haters, we all know why we are here... to find a way to justify buying something we think we need and really don't.
Chandler Hoisington LMAO! Awesome comment. Best I’ve read today. Lol
Thanks for responding to my shocking experience on Shimoda's newest range of action bags, I can assure you my X50 has not lasted well on my first few seascape photography outings and it's a shame Shimoda chose to use a poorer material on the base of the bag the actual area where most abrasion occurs. If they had continued with the coated ripstop reinforced nylon as used over their ranges to date this weakness would probably never has come to light. They claim the base is newly reinforced, but this is with an inferior finish to the bags main material. It won't last like the rest of the bag and damage has occurred very quickly on mine. I am upset as this bag was at the top end of my budget, and I haven't yet been able to afford the additional cost of the insert. I don't get given free products unfortunately to write glittering reviews so I can boost sales. P.S. I'm no gear hater, rather the contrary I was recommended the Shimoda range by a friend who had the earlier bag, but I can see you will buy into a brand regardless, good luck with yours.
I purchased one of their bags earlier this year based upon your fine review and the good reviews of several other photographers and now I can say I too love mine. But I will say that their customer service is poor at best. I had a few pre-order questions that I tried to get answers to. I tried e-mailing and never got a response. I called the CS number on their website and left voice messages and never got a return call. Somehow I found out that the MAC Group was filling their orders for them so I called them but I could not get anyone to talk to there either. This was all very frustrating because I was leaving for a trip to Europe and I had these pre-order questions so I just ended up buying more ICUs than I needed and sending back the rest before leaving on my trip. Again, a good product but bad CS.
Hi Mark, sorry to hear about your experience. We are a unique brand where we are not a stand alone operation, we share resources with numerous other brands. This can lead to a bit of a watered down CS experience some times. But, sharing resources allows me to put more resources in product developed and moving the brand forward. I put my personal email out in many places and most of the CS emails we get come directly to me - you are always welcome to try me at ian@shimodadesigns.com - Ian
Shimoda Designs thank you Ian. At this time I have no further questions and I’m enjoying my pack! At the time it was extremely frustrating because I could not find the answer on the Shimoda website. Since I had travel reservations already set I had to over purchase and then return what would not fit because I did not know what size(s) of Core Units would fit in the Explorer 30 and I needed them for a trip to Europe. So it cost me lots of time and unnecessary shipping fees. The animated Gif for the Explorer 30 on the product page would probably have answered my question if it rotated slower and was a larger size so that I could have studied it more closely.
Nice! Black with the nice wide shoulder straps = nice. Nice video.
Nice video and I love that color. I can't wait to get mine in the 30L. Although I did just get the 30L Explore one not long ago and I love it.
The ONLY thing I'm not crazy about with the Explore 60 (first generation large Shimoda bag) is that you have to remove the frame in order for it to be "carry on" size. It looks like this X 50 is just smaller enough to be a carry on? Would love to know your experience with that, Nick.
Other than that, Shimoda has served me reliably and comfortably well through downpours in Iceland and icy Nor'Easters in CT. Thanks for another relatable and honest review, NP
Check the Q&A on the Kickstarter. The owner claims he was able to carry on the X70 a few times but was worried it might not be permitted.
@@SirTomster1 I'd always be worried though about that one time the airline said it was a no-go, that puts you in a bad situation. Airlines also change the rules and level of enforcement with different times.
Definitely considering the 50L. I was hoping to see what core unit you use and more info on that since you have Sony bodies as I do with L bracket. Not sure if the mirrorless core unit is enough or I need the DSLR
I am actually using the Large ICU.. I typically have two bodies with lenses mounted. plus two more lenses not mounted... I carry a 100-400, 24-105, 16-35 and 18mm prime. plus filters and mic all in my Core Unit.. the rest go in the top compartment
would you ever consider using this a hiking pack (without camera equip)? it looks like a really good pack for that.
I think it would certainly work, although these materials are heavier than the typical hiking pack. So it would start off with a heavier base weight which is not ideal
I was so not Down on the Rolltop.....Until I saw the zipper access..SOld! very cool.. I had the 40L and now the 60L (much improved), but like the 40L being a big bag was so tiny for bulking jackets etc... the Rolltop on all sizes is a simple and great solution.The Zip out bags or whatever they are called- haven't been a fan, was actually just hoping to see a dedicated side pockets- those are actually just useful (shimoda is kinda just overthinking that part of the bag imho). Overall looks like a great gen 2.
I wish I'd chosen the 60 over the 40 myself, not an issue in the summer but when the weather gets colder and you need to stow that heavy jacket while exerting yourself that extra room is needed. On the other hand I went with the 40 to be carry-on compliant, not sure the 60 is, the 50 though seems to be the best solution with the expandable top portion.
Never used a bag with side access on the right side. Is it awkward the pull camera out on the right side when right handed?
Hi, biased insider info but, when the bag is on the left shoulder tends to slip off easier and create an awkward body position try to keep it in place. When its on your right shoulder, your right elbow pinches the bag keeping it place. This issue increases with more weight. So thats why its on the right. - Ian
Not sure if it's enough to justify the upgrade to the action x series from the explorer series. The Explore series is expensive after the Kickstarter campaign.
Appreciate the review, probably not one for me, not crazy about the roll top, but I appreciate getting a look at it. Thanks
Awesome looking bag, seems very practical, my current bag will only carry photo gear, this would be awesome, love both colours. Seems like it will be expensive when you add the options.
I love my Action X50! It is by far the best bag I’ve ever tried. I have LowePro bags (which are very nice), Peak Design bags…great quality but not functional…Shimoda just hit it out of the park with this one!!!
This leaves me even more undecided, there is so much about this pack I like but fit is my biggest concern.
Jason
best thing to do, would be to find one and test it out.. happy to hang out sometime so you can fiddle with it
Thanks, Nick. I have had the X30 for about 20 months now. I love it. Had the earlier Shimoda bag. Changed it out for the Atlas Athlete (which I now need to sell) which had a lot of features I preferred over the original Shimoda bag - but I struggled a bit with the fit. With this new bag Shimoda has addressed all those features and made a number of other improvements and the fit is awesome. One question, do you find that accessory pouch useful - that one hanging on the outside. I ordered it with my kit but never received it. I'm wondering if I should cancel it or press them on it. Oh, and I accidentally ordered a set of ICU dividers but I mistakenly ordered the DSLR dividers, not the "mirrorless" size. They don't work with my mirrorless ICU and the shipping to return them is as much as the price. So I wouldn't save any money sending them back. Do you want them? Ha ha! Oh, and it is hilarious that the F4 crew all have the Shimoda bags in green.
I was waiting for you to demonstrate how the waist belt closed. ??
A chill but on point review bruda
I was wondering if you were going to do a review of it. Saw BVS the other day.
I’m curious as to the accessories. I noticed the long thin pouch plus the pouch you had attached to the side.
I’m thinking of getting to 50L.
Yeah they’ve came out with a few new accessories I’m not sure if that’s already on their store or not I believe it is. I really like the new accessory pouches.. very handy
How's this compared to the F-Stop Lotus Backpack? GREAT review btw
Did every youtuber get one of these bags! This is the 3RD “review video” I’ve seen in 3 days!!!
thompy1uk between that and the Peter McKinnon bag it’s going to fill your feed!
They certainly sent out quite a few copies. But at least it’s a relevant pertinent piece of gear. I think most people are in search of the perfect camera bag
Nick Page the search for the perfect unicorn bag will always exist bc we always get new gear! It’s a never ending cycle and I’m glad we have folks like Nick Page to suffer with us and to learn from haha
Shimoda makes the closest to a perfect bag I've found yet so keep em coming.
Cody Lere Photography It’s pretty crazy how much anti-gear review sentiment there is these days. I personally love watching reviews of new gear and seeing what’s out there, but so many people think I’m just a walking commercial If I give my opinions on a piece of gear
Hey Nick, I’m about to get a Shimoda. Is this an affiliate link or should I just pre-order from B&H as per usual? I know you guys probably don’t get much out of those links anyway, but figured I’d ask-least I can do after you revolutionized my Photoshop skills...
They look great but simply impossible to get one to this date and it's very frustrating!!! so I went the F-Stop way, but I still want one.
yeah I have heard this from a few people.. really unfortunate they are so hard to get your hands on.
I wanted one, but even now July 22 2020 the action line is not available ANYWHERE, so I went on and got a F-stop, pretty happy but I still want a Shimoda, GAS lol !!!
Any way to put a peak design capture clip on this
Thanks you for the review. Very useful
I just can't decide on the color I want
Looks like you are in Western Mesa Arch?
I just bought a 40L pro kit 3 to 4 weeks ago. I really wish I had known these were coming at that time. The 50L in black would have been the one I would have ordered instead. 😪😪
Sorry - but you still got a great pack. - Ian
Not sure what I think of it..send it to me so I can field test it
How about the comfort? Are they comparable?
Great review, thanks! Think the straps would accommodate a Peak Design Capture clip at the shoulder? I’m ready to upgrade my MindShift bag.
I have the Shimoda explore 40, and the women’s technical straps. I use a peak capture clip v3 with no problem. I would expect it to work the same on this bag.
I've been thinking of supporting the campaign to get one of these. Not sure about the size yet.
Do you think of selling your old Shimoda then? :-)
Thanks Nick,good informative video. When do the bags become available esp in the UK?
Looks like a really good bag but it's a bit expensive also I'm wondering how it travels i.e. will it comfortably fit in a overhead on a airplane?
It seems every plane I took this past year had a different sized over head space, but it fit in all of them. If you can get it a deep one, the quick access zipper is nice for getting at your personal items without pulling it out of the overhead. - Ian
Howard L. Smith as a 5’3” woman I can say this is the most comfortable bag I’ve owned. I carry 20lbs if gear and fly overseas with it, I’m super happy with it!
@@Missbagpipernorthwest Thank you :)
I kinda figured since I just bought a 60L there would be a new one out soon! 🤣
Chris Sheehan same here. Hoping they allow trade ins
just ordered the 60L too... oh well Im sure i can live with it😅
CJamesPhoto yeah me too! I’m really liking the bag so far. Literally filled it up for the first time yesterday and am on the first day of a trip with it.
Chris Sheehan Cool! Feel like it holds up well?
CJamesPhoto yeah so far so good. Took it on 3 flights yesterday and will likely even have it out in the rain in the next couple days. I’ll be able to compare it to that new one tomorrow with the Master Landscape Photographer Nick Page. 😆 (Assuming that’s the one he will have).
Hey Nick, since the Kickstarter project has ended, do you have an affiliate or discount link you can post for those of us who missed the project deadline? Looking forward to getting this backpack before the end of year. I'd like to have it prior to my Glacier trip in July 2020.
OOo so this is what Ian was talking about when he replied to my comment on a previous video .... I like both the colors..green works well if you have one of the new green iPhones... haha !!
I was actually thinking about switching my 40l to the new 50l bag until I realized that the 50l weighs 600g more (empty) than the 40l bag. That's almost the weight of two batis lenses I usually carry around :)
Even the new 30l bag is 400g heavier than the old 40l bag. The big top compartment of the new models would be appreciated though.
Yeah the base weight is going to be a bit heavier, because of the heavier weight materials used
Gonna need a new bag. To hold all my bags...
Hey could I ask what your height is, for scale? Thanks! (If you are ok with that of course!)
Hi Nick, because this 50L is a little bit bigger than the old 40L, does it still be compatible with the regulations for carry-on baggage? The Shimoda Action X 50L at all looks really good.
Yeah it is still carry-on compatible no problem it has the same length as the 40 L
Hi all, Is anyone has tried the action X50 with mirrorless Core unit and camping gear for multi days backpacking? thanks
Thanks for informative review! Lots of good points.
Interesting that you said this 50 seems roomier than the old 60, I currently own the 40 and find in the winter it's a bit small for jackets and extra clothes, in many ways wish I'd gotten the 60. I"m wondering how big the 70 really is, from your review it seems it's enormous. I'm curious if they beefed up the buckle some, I found the waist buckle to seem flimsy and while it hasn't broken yet would prefer something heavier duty like those on my backpacks which are also easier to buckle. It's great to see these companies listening to us and making revisions accordingly.
I know Adam Gibbs has the 70, I suspect he will do some kind of review on it and give you an idea of size
Consider the buckle beefed up. Its why we will make a new Belt Booster to fit Action X (as Nick mention in the video). I may have made the mistake of not using precise liter naming with the Explore series, there is a bit of tolerance in the numerical naming. The X50 is about the same size as the 60. You can max the 50 at 57L and bring it down to a very small amount (much less than 50) with the compression straps.
Do you feel the straps are any different comfort wise to the original straps? Are they different at all in construction as in the way that they curve? How about the straps on the 70 L are they more comfortable?
The straps are pretty much identical from the original, with the exception of the larger pockets and the ones designed for women. The ones on the 70 L I believe are the same straps as the smaller bags
@@NickPage According to Shimoda the 70L's straps are heavier duty with more padding.
If you have the roll top filled with sleeping bag for example does it still seal? or do you have to be able to roll it to seal it?
You will need at least one roll to close the bag, ideally a couple for better protection.
That Black bag looks awesome, so its a maybe as I am in the market for a camera bag. Been looking at the limited options in the 40 to 50L class. Question on the REI rain coats, do they hows the durability of them?
So far so good, I’ve only had this one for a couple months so it’s hard to say how it will last but I like how light it is
@@NickPage Seems like they have a more comfortable fit compared to the form fitting everybody else is putting out these days which I hate lol.
Helpful, on the edge between 30 and 50
I must have missed it, but what's the ICU size on this? I'm guessing it's the large DSLR setup? Been scratching my head looking for one that would fit the 100-400 with camera attached such as how you kept it inside
I have it with a Large Core unit
Hi nick! Thanks for your detalied review! I want to buy this bag but I am not sure which core unit to buy. Midium DSLR Unit? Mideum Mirrorless core unit? Or large DSLR Unit. May I know which one do you use? As the DSLR core unit is 40mm thicker than the mirrorless core unit, will the bag looks too thick when the DSLR core unit packed in? I have a7r3 with 1635F4 55 and 70-200F4, plus mavic2pro with three batteries.
I use the Large, because I am often packing two cameras, I think the medium would do for most, but I like the flexibility of the large core unit.
@@NickPage Thank you a lot for your quick reply! Ok I think I also need the large unit! one more thing, do you know if the X50 rear laptop case can hold the macbook pro 16inch ?
Hadn't really thought before, but with those big pockets on both shoulder straps... impossible to use something like a peak design capture clip?
I’ve used them in the past but they do ride pretty high on the straps.
As usual, a very nice and informative review. Thanks.
Love Shimoda Bags!
thank you !
Hello Nick, will the 50 liters be capable of a piece of carry-on luggage on a plane? Ps. What was that little black pouch on the outside of the pack used for?
Yeah I’ve flown a couple times with it. It’s on as carry-on no problem. I typically just put lens cloths and camera batteries in that little pouch. It’s nice to have a little external pouch for quick access stuff
Nick Page I ordered it!
not a fan of the green color either, but it's cool that they have more color options other than the 2 colors originally
Yeah the green is a bit brighter than I expected, the black is very sharp though I’m a bit jealous of those that got the black
@@NickPage black looks great!!
It is amazing how you need to buy every new version of all the stuff you own XD A7R4, Iphone 11, Bags, etc. Is not that incredible stressfull?
It kind of is, but as long as I sell off the older version... I look at it like I am renting for the length I on the camera. So in the case of the a 7R3 I rented it for two years for about $800-$1000
Seems a great bag. Just a shame they don’t do a wildlife long lens version as the weight, rugged style and space for waterproofs would seem perfect but unless I am missing something, the large DSLR cube is too small for even a 400 mm f2.8 (it’s just long enough for the lens off the camera but it’s not deep enough for the lens diameter)
They actually make an extra large as well. That one is big enough to hold a 600 F4
Thanks. It looks on their website that this larger cube only fits in the X70 (the extra large DV is listed under the X70 but not the X50 but perhaps I have misunderstood this). I will have a look at the X70 but it does seem massive, where the X50 seems a better overall size.
@@johnharvey1786 your right.. the XL cube only fits the 70L I believe
@@johnharvey1786 Hi John, just to clarify The X70 fit all Core Units, for super tele, you will want the DV Series for best comfort, but I have seen bigger glass in the Large DSLR (colby brown has posted images before). You can make the X70 seems really big, but at the same time it can' compress down a lot and be just about the same size as the X50. Most people are surprised when I wear my X70, and find out its not the X50.
Shimoda Designs I ordered the X70 with the DV cube via the Kickstarter promotion but as you know this has not gone well from a customer perspective. Great marketing campaign but not so good on production and delivery (unfortunately this is the modern way) and therefore with no delivery in sight It seems unlikely I will be able to take the bag on my trip this January. I hope when I eventually receive my bag it’s as good as it looks on Nicks video.
Obviously not seeing it in person, I think a cinch-closure top with a lid/brain would be better. More common among backpacking bags - you still get expandable storage AND you'd have (ideally) a lid with at least one extra quick-access compartment at the top
They have another bag like that I think its the 60L explorer.
Sweeeet was waiting on this since you hinted about it a couple months ago. I think it’s time!!!
Must be bag season. third different bag in 3 days. Maybe time to shed a few inches, eh Nick?. More hikes with the F4 bunch perhaps. Rock on!
Please not, this is not as much a criticism as it is an awakening, because I'm in the same boat. My belts have run out of holes. 🙈
Nick, have you traveled with the new pack yet? Just curious if it is safe as a carry on.
Yeah I’ve flown with it a few times with no issues it has about the same footprint as the 40 L