I mean at some point we could argue it passes the threshold from merely gaslighting to minor reality warping. Especially given that Freya is an immortal goddess who on some level CAN bend reality to her whims.
Apart from Hestia, is there anyone else who hasn't been brainwashed, we see Hermes say that he will definitely become brainwashed, are Ais or Ryu not affected
Yeah. Hey wait! Asuna’s VA is back! Haven’t heard of her since the last time she voiced asuna in sao: war of the underworld It’s been ages!😮 Going back to the series, she like the other girls in orario, most of them, saw bell as a pervert since ova 3 but now nobody remembers him. I honestly hope she and none of the other girls of orario never remember him
I am going to say that They need an enforcer, we had apollo attack Bell in public, now Freya, is there nobody who can just appear and clap a god and say no
At this point if i was bell I would become the god killer faking my loyalty to freya training extra hard in the dungeon lvl up fast then execute them all or use my own life against freya threatening to end my own life since she loves bell she would have no choice but to return everything back to normal
@@RodimusMinor1987 exactly first apollo then ishtar trying to grape him now psycho freya give my mans a break all he wants is to be a hero and be with ais is that literally too much to ask poor boys been abused ever since he joined a familia
Haha it was like that for the previous season as well. I got so annoyed from the slow pacing and cliff hangers during the whole juggernaut stuff i couldn't wait.
Okay whilst it is nice seeing the Freya Familiar being nice to Bell, well as Nice as Allen can be, it is painful to see everyone who knows Bell either Fear him or not know who he really is, Come on Hestia, how long until she has to give that Letter to Hermes
Don’t worry 😉 he’s under the care of the freya familia. They are far smarter, stronger and overall better than the Hestia familia All the girls considered bell a dirty pervert and hated him since the incident of the ova 3 so of course they would be cold towards him from there up until now Freya on the other hand would never see him as a pervert or anything like that. She would definitely love him forever Go away Hestia familia losers! Bell is in a better familia now😎😎
@@aboubacartraore1802 well, about the girls hating bell and considering him a pervert since ova 3, yes but about him being in the freya familia and having a better life with freya and her familia… At first I thought he would have a much better life with them but when I saw how they were intimidated by him for being in the freya familia and how Hestia acting as if she forgot him too to avoid any harm by the freya familia, he had burst into tears, I don’t think he’s in a better familia anymore. Sure they are stronger and smarter but they are actually not better. Bell is not in a better familia than the Hestia familia and he is indeed not happy about being there So no, I’m not serious about bell being in a familia
first mukuro erasing everyone of tengu city incluring kotori and the 8 spirits the memories of shido itsuka using michael segva in january 11 and now freya use the charm to erase everyone of oratio including the hestia loki takemikazuchi miarch and all familiars except asfi and ryuu the memories of bell cranell the captain of the hestia familiar and the existence of syr
Well I don’t! He wouldn’t be any luckier by being in the freya familia and belonging to the hottest, sexiest and most beautiful goddess in the entire series: freya This is how danmachi should have been from the very beginning
yeah ryuu going to save bell cranell from the freya familiar herself and asfi going to herp to bring hestia and all the people of oratio they memories back
Hestia ryu and asfi have to think of something or thing won't go back to normal and Bell cranel will fall despair and be brainwashed or charm by goddess Freya and familia will have orario under their control just to keep Bell cranel.
Holy Fuq! Didn't know Belle also got what Touma from Index got in the LN, Showing them a world where that if they're not there, it's still fine and what they did are just unnecessary things, or is this one different and Belle just got really forgotten
Not really inbells case, his family wouldnt be able to exist if It wants for him, ryu probably would have died in his figth against the juggernaug andmany More, the world does remeber bell Is just that in a diferent way,
@animarok9032 so why are they're all together, everyone wouldn't be in the same famillia if not for belle right? Or its the same as touma's exp where the problem just fixed itself without the MC and for the Better like Index is still with her friends and Misaka and Accelerator fixed their problem on their own and they became friends cuz of that
After this, I believe bell will become vengeful Maybe against freya for stealing him away or against all of orario for being treated even worse than before freya altered their memory of bell Because they all looked down on him and the girls saw him as a pervert since ova 3, now their treatment is even worse
Bell is WAY TOO PURE to seek revenge. He may had chose to become a hypocrite to save the Xenos, but he's no Kratos to actually kill a God for his own sake. Tho I believe he will atleast retaliate against the Familia members. Damn, I can't wait to see Allen beaten up
@desuyodesuyo60 Ikr he is too arrogant, especially towards Welf. He also treated his sister like dog water poor. Welf tried to fight him, and he said moron the fight is already over and Welf was impaled we already have an arrogant beastman in Beta from the Loki familiar and now Allen cranks that up to 11
Time for the mighty Zeus to intervene and kill Freya and save his grandson. I hope you did not even erase Hermes memories, fiesta go and warm Bell’s grandfather Zeus for help. Zeus will not be pleased with Freya.
@@erwinpratama8863not normal virgin people but virgin godness ,but then again ... . . . . FYI: in the novel freya charm just too busted to the point only three virgin godness of olympia(hestia is one of them ) that can resist her charm lore wise in danmachi
@@erwinpratama8863 Well there were only three virgin goddess so yeah probably others aren't. And just see how old they are ( even the young gods are millions yrs old) it's entirely realistic that they are not virgin.😅. And the gods of orario don't shy away from these types of things either. Just see Freya and Istar for example(they probably had already slept w most of the male gods or even many mortals/ adventurers. Even Freya used her body to trade things she wished to gain. Istar probably isn't any better. She even does that kind of buisness.Her familia are called wh*res. Now you get it.). It's like they are powerful individual with a long long lifespan and without any restraint. So it's only natural they will do it sometimes. Ps- Some info are from the manga
@@jackychen8143 right it was january 11 not only shido friends also kotori and the rest of the 8 spirits in january 12 is the return of the long hair origami who she quit from the ast and the inverse tohka created by the evil isaac westcott and his army of wizard
Bro where in the world is Zeus to help his grandson like can he do something we know he is not death or just call kratos to help him out and we all be good
@@King.Versa97nope Borutos took place during the worst arcs in the series where sales were dropping and quality was lacking. Everything about it's execution reeked of desperation from the authors side
Would you? Imagine you woke up in a completely strange place where people is saying you belong there. Wouldn't your first thought be to seek your family and friends? I think his reaction is pretty normal.
Freya's obsession for Bell makes Hestia's obsession for Bell look sane in comparison.
Hestia obssesion is just like normal affection
@namasteku6329 Nah, she's definitely obsessed, but not to an insane degree like Freya.
If i was bell i would have killed myself i would rather live in hell than living with a oppssive witch.
Hestia is perfectly normal!! She deserves to be with Bell!! In addition, Hestia can’t help Bell as this point because of Freya’s threat!!
@@trtan3770 you basically comparing a Virgin and a crazy
All of this, because of Freya’s twisted love for him? Now, this takes the kind of unhealthy obsession to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL here!
Toxic relationship at its finest
Most normal yandere behaviour be like:
Highest version of gaslighting
I mean at some point we could argue it passes the threshold from merely gaslighting to minor reality warping. Especially given that Freya is an immortal goddess who on some level CAN bend reality to her whims.
It's the Bleach: Full-Bringer arc all over again. 😢
and date a live:mukuro's arc in locked memories
It is between Boruto and Kawaki
@juanandresdavilamartinez9654 ooh i hate these mind control arcs bro
Always got me feeling bad for the MC
This also happened to ichigo in Bleach Fade to Black
(Bleach movie 3)
If you haven't seen it i recommend it.
Everyone in soul society forgets ichigo
@@haydnFB Appreciated.
Freya took gaslighting to a whole new level💀
She could have at least made sure that he woke up next to her
She still salty about the rejection.
I have to say I like the new outfit Bell is wearing, skin tight Top and pants with Shorts, that won't hinder movement
"That's rough buddy." Said a certain firebender 🔥
Also Bell call Kratos now! Freya has got to go!
Better call Baldur.
Apart from Hestia, is there anyone else who hasn't been brainwashed, we see Hermes say that he will definitely become brainwashed, are Ais or Ryu not affected
@@RodimusMinor1987 Maybe the 2 people earlier that was told to fly far away from the city by hermes.
@@Tsino07
True Ryu was one of them and the other was Hermes attendant
@@RodimusMinor1987they escaped the city so they are fine
The worst is that Hestia has to fake she doesn't know bell
She had no choice. Freya threatened Hestia to kill all the members of Hestia’s family and send back to heaven.
IKR, she saw Ottar and Allen watching so she knew that if she said anything Welf Lili Mikoto and Haruhime would be killed in broad daylight
Freya’s gaslighting skills are second to none.
Is it still only gaslighting when she’s an immortal goddess who, to some degree, really CAN bend reality to her whims?
Matsuoka voice acting in despering moment is so perfect
Even Asuna can't escape her Tsukuyomi lol
Yeah. Hey wait! Asuna’s VA is back! Haven’t heard of her since the last time she voiced asuna in sao: war of the underworld
It’s been ages!😮
Going back to the series, she like the other girls in orario, most of them, saw bell as a pervert since ova 3 but now nobody remembers him. I honestly hope she and none of the other girls of orario never remember him
All the sudden the ghost of Sparta appears and destroys the freya familia
I am going to say that They need an enforcer, we had apollo attack Bell in public, now Freya, is there nobody who can just appear and clap a god and say no
At this point if i was bell I would become the god killer faking my loyalty to freya training extra hard in the dungeon lvl up fast then execute them all or use my own life against freya threatening to end my own life since she loves bell she would have no choice but to return everything back to normal
@@RodimusMinor1987 exactly first apollo then ishtar trying to grape him now psycho freya give my mans a break all he wants is to be a hero and be with ais is that literally too much to ask poor boys been abused ever since he joined a familia
@lildipper3423
Ikr I bet Ais was on a mission or something as she wasn't around to help Bell
Imagine having someone you care about whose care is _not_ unconditional.
It's gonna be a rough season for Bell.
How many episodes for season 5?
15
bro im so annoyed at how i have to wait a whole week for the next ep- but i guess thats animes on air for you
Haha it was like that for the previous season as well. I got so annoyed from the slow pacing and cliff hangers during the whole juggernaut stuff i couldn't wait.
This is why I don't watch seasons that are still airing. I wait until they finish airing first.
The urge is too much tho
I waited ages for the release@@skyrax7
Okay whilst it is nice seeing the Freya Familiar being nice to Bell, well as Nice as Allen can be, it is painful to see everyone who knows Bell either Fear him or not know who he really is, Come on Hestia, how long until she has to give that Letter to Hermes
Poor Bell😔
his lives is ruined
Don’t worry 😉 he’s under the care of the freya familia. They are far smarter, stronger and overall better than the Hestia familia
All the girls considered bell a dirty pervert and hated him since the incident of the ova 3 so of course they would be cold towards him from there up until now
Freya on the other hand would never see him as a pervert or anything like that. She would definitely love him forever
Go away Hestia familia losers! Bell is in a better familia now😎😎
@xavierperes Bro, wtf you can't be serious with this
@@aboubacartraore1802 well, about the girls hating bell and considering him a pervert since ova 3, yes but about him being in the freya familia and having a better life with freya and her familia…
At first I thought he would have a much better life with them but when I saw how they were intimidated by him for being in the freya familia and how Hestia acting as if she forgot him too to avoid any harm by the freya familia, he had burst into tears, I don’t think he’s in a better familia anymore. Sure they are stronger and smarter but they are actually not better. Bell is not in a better familia than the Hestia familia and he is indeed not happy about being there
So no, I’m not serious about bell being in a familia
@@xavierperes Bro the hole situation if FORCED by Freya. That fact alone tells us that this is not good
Remember when this was one man's quest to get a girlfriend?
i feel sad to my man. He is my ideal hero yet his been treat like tool. 😔😔😔
freya what have you done
first mukuro erasing everyone of tengu city incluring kotori and the 8 spirits the memories of shido itsuka using michael segva in january 11 and now freya use the charm to erase everyone of oratio including the hestia loki takemikazuchi miarch and all familiars except asfi and ryuu the memories of bell cranell the captain of the hestia familiar and the existence of syr
Bro is explaining comparison between Datealive and Danmanchi to himself, without himself asking him, to explain it to himself 💀💀💀
It's really sad to be betrayed by your own family.
They were brainwashed, it wasn't intentional
Betrayal needs to have intention.
How can you backstab someone if you don't even have the intention of it?
Dam, I was sad and really felt bad for Syr, but now I have mixed feelings about Freyja..... This episode was really hard to swallow for me
Ikr! What a rollercoaster of emotions.
To be precise Bell Cranel of the Hestia Familia is forgotten but is now known as Bell Cranel of the Freya Familia
Damn we gotta wait next Thursday to see what happens that’s going to be torture
Bell has chram(cockblock) skill passive. Maybe inherited from Hestia.
I hope things go back to normal and gets his friends/home back. 😰
Well I don’t! He wouldn’t be any luckier by being in the freya familia and belonging to the hottest, sexiest and most beautiful goddess in the entire series: freya
This is how danmachi should have been from the very beginning
@@xavierperesYES BROTHER PREACH🙏🙏
@@xavierperesMega simp I don't care how hot anyone is I'd their personality sucks take a hike
@@xavierperesBro is down bad 😂😂
yeah ryuu going to save bell cranell from the freya familiar herself and asfi going to herp to bring hestia and all the people of oratio they memories back
Bell, you bastard, it should be me!!!
Hestia ryu and asfi have to think of something or thing won't go back to normal and Bell cranel will fall despair and be brainwashed or charm by goddess Freya and familia will have orario under their control just to keep Bell cranel.
Thank you let just for next episode season 5 of danmachi okay.
And so it begins
Bell becomes a Full Bringer Ichigo
Holy Fuq! Didn't know Belle also got what Touma from Index got in the LN, Showing them a world where that if they're not there, it's still fine and what they did are just unnecessary things, or is this one different and Belle just got really forgotten
Not really inbells case, his family wouldnt be able to exist if It wants for him, ryu probably would have died in his figth against the juggernaug andmany More, the world does remeber bell Is just that in a diferent way,
@animarok9032 so why are they're all together, everyone wouldn't be in the same famillia if not for belle right? Or its the same as touma's exp where the problem just fixed itself without the MC and for the Better like Index is still with her friends and Misaka and Accelerator fixed their problem on their own and they became friends cuz of that
Nah, Freya went full gaslight mode.
@@xorpros669 really! Damn, the similarities of the antogonists removing their morales are at high peak during that time huh?
Let the nightmare begin
Can't wait for bro's revenge🙏
After this, I believe bell will become vengeful
Maybe against freya for stealing him away or against all of orario for being treated even worse than before freya altered their memory of bell
Because they all looked down on him and the girls saw him as a pervert since ova 3, now their treatment is even worse
I bet Bell is going to have the Freya Familiar train him and make him much stronger, then he can be like Nah I am out, that goddess be crazy
Bell is WAY TOO PURE to seek revenge.
He may had chose to become a hypocrite to save the Xenos, but he's no Kratos to actually kill a God for his own sake.
Tho I believe he will atleast retaliate against the Familia members. Damn, I can't wait to see Allen beaten up
@desuyodesuyo60
Ikr he is too arrogant, especially towards Welf. He also treated his sister like dog water poor. Welf tried to fight him, and he said moron the fight is already over and Welf was impaled we already have an arrogant beastman in Beta from the Loki familiar and now Allen cranks that up to 11
She just like obito
Time for the mighty Zeus to intervene and kill Freya and save his grandson. I hope you did not even erase Hermes memories, fiesta go and warm Bell’s grandfather Zeus for help. Zeus will not be pleased with Freya.
Damn bell cant catch a break 😔,
Wait Hestis apologizing to bell means she is not charmed by Freya?
she isn't coz Hermes warned her to raise her defence against Freya's charms so she,Ryu and Asfi are the ones who aren't affected by the charms.
She is a virgin goddess who is naturally resistant to charms.
@@antelope3578So all people not virgins?🤔
@@erwinpratama8863not normal virgin people but virgin godness ,but then again ...
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FYI: in the novel freya charm just too busted to the point only three virgin godness of olympia(hestia is one of them ) that can resist her charm lore wise in danmachi
@@erwinpratama8863 Well there were only three virgin goddess so yeah probably others aren't. And just see how old they are ( even the young gods are millions yrs old) it's entirely realistic that they are not virgin.😅. And the gods of orario don't shy away from these types of things either. Just see Freya and Istar for example(they probably had already slept w most of the male gods or even many mortals/ adventurers. Even Freya used her body to trade things she wished to gain. Istar probably isn't any better. She even does that kind of buisness.Her familia are called wh*res. Now you get it.). It's like they are powerful individual with a long long lifespan and without any restraint. So it's only natural they will do it sometimes.
Ps- Some info are from the manga
This EP was a thrill lmao
That's it! Now i hate Freya so much!
Time for
WAR!!!!
Good luck beating her forces
nah kratos gotta pull up 😂
I hope Bell shatters Freya's heart until she is broken.
She already is
Well, the only thing I can say is Bell is a saint, he transcended humanity (and I'm not talking about skills or powers xD)
@@israelmoralesnaranjo8332 A transcendant?
Freya's efforts are for nothing. Because of her, Bell is gonna be miserable for the rest of his life till he dies. His life is now ruined.
Now Bell’s in a horrible nightmare…
someone help him
Poor boy 😢
Poor bell😅
Aaaaaaaaqq😊😊😊😊😊😊😢😢😢 , salió la otra parte , que emoción nn😮😮😮😊😊😊
Dont worry guys, Ais got this
Goofy ahh moment is coming
Isnt this taboo or something is freya can just do as she wishes?
Well...
Something similar to this happened in Date A Live S5 with the key spirt isn't it?
Season 4, spirit Mukuro and her Angel Micheal, Key staff able to seal and unlock everything,Mukuro sealed all of Shido’s friend’s memories of him
@@jackychen8143 right it was january 11 not only shido friends also kotori and the rest of the 8 spirits in january 12 is the return of the long hair origami who she quit from the ast and the inverse tohka created by the evil isaac westcott and his army of wizard
Bro where in the world is Zeus to help his grandson like can he do something we know he is not death or just call kratos to help him out and we all be good
dun tell me Bell is gonna turn to Petelgeuss Romani Conti-DEZU…!!
freya gonna make bell kill hestia, than it happens, imagine
Well Hestia would react different if She wouldn't know Bell 😂
Oh boy
Borutos plot but better
How are about they're both good?...
@@King.Versa97nope
Borutos took place during the worst arcs in the series where sales were dropping and quality was lacking. Everything about it's execution reeked of desperation from the authors side
Bell and ryu just
This ability affected even goddess?
@@cleardude6992 everyone but hestia
I'm Assuming hestia saw the guy behind the corner and is acting the part
Yes, except goddesses
hestia, artemis and athena
@@Tigerclan_It is as Hestia is too powerless to do against
@@Tigerclan_ Ouranos too, if he gets charmed orario would fall in calamity
about 2 videos )
Now I hate Freya
This is cruel
What now ?twist like boruto?😂
Why can not bell be more smart ? Just go with flow
He is too pure
He will in the next ep😂
@@allwinissac4924 i heard he gona get beaten up so many time is it true?
Would you? Imagine you woke up in a completely strange place where people is saying you belong there. Wouldn't your first thought be to seek your family and friends? I think his reaction is pretty normal.
He isn't aware
Well, I want Bell to ship with Syr so this version is better
yeah sure be with a fucking psycho that don't love you is a fucking dream...
First pin me 😸
BELL STILL DIDNT GROW UP I HAD TO DROP THE SHOW
Hes only been in hestia familia for 6 months according to todays episode. How much do you expect him to grow?
@ my boy after all of them season we are in the 5th season not a DMN thing abt has changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING