Having ridden HA foils from multiple brands there is much more to this than just Aspect ratio, the foil shape, camber and section also has a huge impact on this. For example the DuoTone Glide 905, which I can use from 10-12 knots all the way up to 25 knots plus does not exhibit the issues you level at high aspect foils - yet it has an AR of 9.4. It is as easy to ride as any mid aspect foil. Of course you can just go mid aspect to get guaranteed stability and ease of use from any brand you choose - but it would be wrong to assume that there are not HA products on the market that are designed with ease of use in mind, there are, it's just not all brands have cracked the code yet.
I know. As mentioned in the video the CurveH would be easier to use (to pump) than the Veloce even though it is higher aspect. But it is also slower. So higher aspect doesn't mean higher speed automatically
I’ve gone down the HA road and I’m happiest in between MA and HA. My Axis 1050 HPS aspect is 7.55 and my Axis 960 SF is 7.84 but the Spitfires are known for carving. These foils give me lift, stability, and speed. They don’t over foil or get pushed around in the surf. They lock into the waves nicely.
Thanks for the good video. I am probably nowhere near your level, just on 3 month learning, but I learnt in the waves in the North Sea in Holland. So my huge foil of 1750cm really annoys me by now, it gets kicked around by the waves. After talking to the locals I just placed an order for Armstrong S1 1250 I was told that one should be better in waves for an intermediate like me. Should arrive next week. I asked the local pro's about high aspect foils and they said better not yet for me, they said first try just a smaller "normal" foil.
Many thanks for this (another ;-)) brilliant video. It's exactly what I'm currently asking when it comes to choosing a new foil - thanks! I've just switched to a Lemon, but I'd be really interested to hear more from you about your new Diamond.
Thanks for the Video! astonishingly relevant for me, as I am 85kg and also own a cruzader diamond in 6'0 (wanna be able to get out when the wind stops on those swiss lakes ;)) but absolutely trying to downwind as well. As a friend of mine just sank my fluid H XL setup while wakefoiling (foilbox ripped out of the slingshot board :P) i ordered the Curve H XL instead hoping to score on those slow windbumps we get with the fluid H 45 stab. Ordered the Curve H because patrice said in a tech talk that the curve H V2 was the last foil to be released and it's the closest, the least difference to V3 and i was so tempted to order the V3s and wait but a lot of preorder is already sold out and i can not wait without wing gear for another month or so :) Will hopefully test it out on monday, fingers crossed for wind and the post to deliver in time - But absolutely will order the Veloce V3 or even the Veloce HDW when the damn V2 to V3 fuselages become available to order again, glide supposed to be very good :) absolutely happy with my gong gear so far. Own the Ypra Surf XL as well for stronger winds and wakefoiling. It's awesome behind a boat!
@@windaddictcurve H XL V2 is very good, really easy and fast, much easier to pump than the Fluid H XL v2, easier to sail huge distances BUT it's a bit boring compared to the fluid, which is so lively. Ordered veloce HDW XL and Veloce L v3, lets see if this scrartches my itch. Otherwise ill get the fluid H v3 😇
Big fan of the Veloce XL for ligher winds (I'm 86kg) but I found that pairing it with the Veloce H 44 stab instead of the Fluid H 45 really gave it an ultimate boost in glide without any drawbacks. For higher winds and wave conditions I use a Curve v2 M with it's 39cm curve M stab and that's really fun if you like to make turns, it just never stalls !
Interesting. I was recommended the Fluid H stab by a Gong advisor who said it was the best compromise between speed, glide and turning. So I'm going to stick with it.
I am also very happy with the V2 Veloce model (L for winds over 14 kts, XL for under 14 Kts, and XXL for my Foil Drive in small waves). I’m 75 kg. Owned a V2 Fluid H L for a brief time. It was ok but the Veloce V2 was far more versatile. Most people just want to ride swell/waves so foil performance is typically described with only that in mind, but I also like doing lots of strapless flat freestyle stuff. Numerous different upwind/downwind combinations. Good top end speed combined with low stall speed are critical for me in addition to easy rail-to-rail and decent pumping. Veloce V2 checks all the boxes. My dilemma now is what V3 foil will improve upon that. I’m hoping it’s the Fluid H V3, which I’m guessing is quite different from the V2 Fluid H. No way to know for sure. I always have to buy-to-try.
Good to know you also love the Veloce V2! I honestly don't think there is a V3 foil there yet that would take its place. I would only consider something like Veloce HDW for downwinding (and downwinding only), but then it's a very specialized foil. I don't have a big appetite for more high-aspect stuff currently.
F my old message deleted… I totally agree with you. Trying the curveH xs in kitefoiling but with my rough sea it’s far from ideal imo. Will sell it soon, searchin a faster and smaller curve st… fluid v2 xs was almost perfect but flat dihedral is hard to control, probably next front will be an old veloce st or xst… imo perfect ar for me and my style is between 6 and 7.. and seeing the new ypra freestyle I am not wrong.
Yeah it was really funny to see that the new Ypra Surf-Freestyle basically went back to a mid-aspect shape. I don't know why they still have "Ypra" in the name because this has nothing to do with the original Ypra.
@@windaddict it’s the pure freestyle front wing so it’s an ypra anyway I think. If it works better in waves and in freestyle it’s a better race frontwing so this is more Ypra than the old one 🙌😆 Have you noticed how THICK it is instead? Just Wow.
@@windaddict ypra s xs was 0.8 thick while the new ypra surf freestyle xxs is 1.2… the S is the most interesting of the new ones imo with 620cm2 and ar 6.8 but it is 1.42cm… too damn much for going fast, it’s totally not a front for slalom racing or freefly or speed it’s for freestyle and wave comps. For freestyle will be even better than the old one, you need more stability when sea is messed up and you just don’t want a foil that makes you fall while you accellerate, pop and repop. While the old one was just standard ypra slightly modified (surf was slightly lower ar, freestyle was surf with shorter fuse AND it needed a new fuse just for it) this year they made a more focused front wing. This is totally not for racing slalom, speed or else… it’s not their program.
Agree with your thoughts aspect 8.5 is magic number for me curve h L,xl or xxl for low wind to mid small slow waves to meduim Ypra xl fir higher winds med to bigger waves . Veloce v3 xl in post will do a vid just my opinions at 95kg 😊 Veloce dw13 aspect and v3 veloce is around 10 apparently easy to get on foil we will see 😊
there is one big issue for us ! we are heavy 😅 it's seem nothing but it a big deal. There is one debate in the prone foil community at the moment , there's people that just enjoy riding and carving the wave and those who want to reconnect , which means you have to either choose a bigger foil to pump or a foil with maniability, the heavier you are and the more foil become distinct for each use therefore you loose versatility . The lighter you are the easier you can get away from a lot of issue . Add that with brand that want you to have a foil for each discipline , surf , wing , jump, pump and you are doomed.
Cool.. bist nach Barcelona. Ich hab für lightwind Windwellen wingen, downwinden das Curve H L mit 80kg und es ist der perfekte Kompromiss aus allen. Vor allem pumpt es super und mit AR 9,5 der beste glide. Ab 15kt hab ich ein 800er mit AR10 von cabrinha. Perfekt. Das Curve H S 700 fahr ich manchmal, bringt aber wenig Vorteile außer schneller, gut wenn grosse Wellen schieben für max Kontrolle und dreht etwas enger. Der glide ist beim 700er aber wieder deutlich schlechter als beim L 1100. Ich glaube AR 7,5 ist cool für surfen und steilere Wellen mit Weißwasser, aber glide mit mehr aspect finde ich toll. Manchmal ist langsam auch besser um im besten Teil der Welle zu bleiben mit besten Schub. Natürlich ab 100cm Span wird mir auch alles zu schwammig. Da fängt das foil an die Bewegung unter Wasser mitzunehmen wie bei deinem Veloce H. Hab mal Veloce V3 bestellt... Ich glaube etwas mehr AR wie Curve H würde dir helfen noch mehr die Power der Wellen zu nutzen und kleinere Wings fahren zu können und weniger mit Windpower zu fahren - kennt halt jeder Windsurfer oder Kiter nur so. Die Curves sind vor allem fett im Center/Profil, das macht sehr frühen Aufstieg und die stallen im Prinzip nicht. Das Ypra S ist zu anstrengend auf Dauer und war in Wellen sehr mittelmäßig. Vielleicht kommst mal nach Sardinien im Winter. Dann meldest dich 😊 ah fahre Cruz 5.6xl in lightwind und ein 65l 5.0 oder 4.6 bei Wind über 15kt. Eigentlich perfekt soweit. Das Cruz 5.6 dreht halt noch gut ist ist sicher nix unter 10kt, aber da kann man auch was anderes machen 😅
Ja leider kann ich nicht alle Modelle testen. Hab mich aber fürs Veloce entschieden weil es schneller ist als das Curve-H. Klingt als hättest du das richtige Material für dich gefunden!!
Very interesting, I m 87 kg and ride mostly veloce xl and M with a fluid 42 stab with a lethal 95 l here in the beaches of Perpignan and Leucate. I have never tried high aspect foils, I think you can do a lot with my gear , and I want it to be easy to fly because I fall a lot 😂 !
I tried almost all. Aspect means glide, more thickness easier get up but slower, thin is the opposte. Large of board is important. Change your wing with a more rigid one, droid for example. V3 fluid can do everything well, V3 veloce are more glide'n speed oriented.Veloce V3 de is maybe too much dw specialized.
Thanks for another very informative video! I've been watching your content for a while and I am especially grateful because I am pretty much the same weight category and there is not too many reviews from non-featherweights over youtube. I think I have similar impressions with kinda still in-between mid and high aspect ratio front wing Gong Curve H XXL which is AR 8.4. I feel it gives good compromise between glide and maneuverability on mostly weak (10-12 knts) and unstable wind conditions inland where I foil most of the time. My most narrow board at the moment is Mint FSP x2 2023 105L and I have a temptation to go for an even narrower one to take off faster but I am a bit scared because Mint is already wobbly in roll axis when the wind dies out and no take-off is possible. Do you have any experience with these narrow boards when the wind is close to or below 5 knts and you just want to go back to the beach?
Thanks! I got quite used to the Cruzader 7'0 by now and overall it is comfortable for me in light winds. However if you have to taxi back to the beach in 5 knots or less it is never fun, especially in chop. With the smaller Cruzader Diamond 5'8 it is miserable, then you just gotta sit on the board.
I changed from a HipePro 5'3 to a Cruzador Diamond 6'3. Same Volume. Took me 5 minutes 😮 to get accustomed to the narrower board. I totally regret not to have switched earlier! No fear, its way more easy than I thought, even when the wind dies to zero!
It highly depends. What do you consider light wind? 10 knots or more? Then I would go for the Cruzader Diamond with a volume that is about the same as your body weight. If you want to go down to 5-10 knots you probably need a Cruzader Point in a larger size, but that's almost a different sport. Cruzader Point gives you a little extra edge on light wind performance but is harder to handle because it's very narrow.
@@windaddict Thank you very much for your answer. My weight is 73 kg and I used to go with Unit 6,5 m2 and 1250 cm2 front foil in light winds. Light wind I mean from 9-10 kts. Based in your answer I think a Cruzader 80 L could suits for me.
How is your experience so far concerning the durability of your Diamond? I'm a bit afraid hearing the stories of the first cruzader being overly sensitive. Can you ease my mind?
The first one I got a tiny ding on it. I must have set it down on a sharp rock. I got it fixed and since then no problems. The Cruzader Diamond so far no problems but it's very new still.
Im on a small lake 80% (@82 kg) with cruz Diamond 6'3 lately (before that a HipePro5'3). Have you tried the Ypra-S yet? My impression: very much faster, more agile, more glide and way more upwind possibilities than the Veloce V2 (I use the Veloce L, Ypra-S in L and XL.) But a little less 'forgiving' in staying up in jibes and tacks. I still havent found the perfekt Stabs for it (have the Fluid 42/220 and Freestyle 46/250. Probably Go for a Veloce H V2 40/175? Any recommendations for Stabs?
For YpraS XL, the best stab is the veloce H V2 44, and for the YpraS L veloce H V2 40 by far Fluid and freestyle stabs are realy slowing down this wing, without adding anything.
Not sure about that. Gong advisors recommend the fluid stabs with YpraS if you want to use it in waves for turning. On a lake yes, Veloce-H stab makes sense
@@windaddict I remembered now why I started to ask about the weight of foil. It is when calculating total weight including foil assist to use with a 12L board such that it will not sink :)
I don't have a Veloce H. You mean the Veloce? These are the 2 combos I'm using: Gong Veloce v2 XL (99cm, 1300 cm²). AR 7.5 Gong Stab Pro Fluid H (45cm) size L Gong Veloce v2 M (82cm, 900 cm²). AR 7.5 Gong Stab Pro Fluid H (42cm) size M
@@windaddict Hi, have you tried your Veloce M with stab fluid L? does it work? I currently ride Curve L/stab fluid L and consider getting a Veloce M to ride faster but don't want to have too much gear
I’m 95kg and ride gusty lakes with Slick 7m, Lance 5’8 (130l) and X-over XXL. Just starting to consistently get on foil, but already thinking about more light wind focused gear. Cruzader and Sirius seem to be what Gong promotes, but a too big step for me. What would recommend?
The cruzader is an amazing light wind board and could be the only only one you need if you’re on a lake. Buy a large size for comfort. Get a large Curve H foil like a 3XLH and a large stab Fluid 47h or 49h which will make riding very stable and take off so easily you’ll have a huge grin every time. Sure it won’t feel as stable as your current board but you’ll get used to it quickly. I’m 72 kg and went for the inflatable 7.6 which is obviously much easier to store. This setup work perfectly from 5 to 20 knots.
Having ridden HA foils from multiple brands there is much more to this than just Aspect ratio, the foil shape, camber and section also has a huge impact on this. For example the DuoTone Glide 905, which I can use from 10-12 knots all the way up to 25 knots plus does not exhibit the issues you level at high aspect foils - yet it has an AR of 9.4. It is as easy to ride as any mid aspect foil. Of course you can just go mid aspect to get guaranteed stability and ease of use from any brand you choose - but it would be wrong to assume that there are not HA products on the market that are designed with ease of use in mind, there are, it's just not all brands have cracked the code yet.
I know. As mentioned in the video the CurveH would be easier to use (to pump) than the Veloce even though it is higher aspect. But it is also slower. So higher aspect doesn't mean higher speed automatically
@@windaddictHigh aspect means glide.
I’ve gone down the HA road and I’m happiest in between MA and HA. My Axis 1050 HPS aspect is 7.55 and my Axis 960 SF is 7.84 but the Spitfires are known for carving. These foils give me lift, stability, and speed. They don’t over foil or get pushed around in the surf. They lock into the waves nicely.
Yes, I think the Spitfire is very similar to the Gong Veloce when you look at dimensions and AR.
Totally agree with you
Mid aspect foil (AR 8) + mid length board (narrower) gives me the best experience of wing foiling
I am 65kg
I am using F one sk8 1050 (AR 8) with Duotone DW air 105l
Yes, the combination is so fun! 😍
Thanks for the good video. I am probably nowhere near your level, just on 3 month learning, but I learnt in the waves in the North Sea in Holland. So my huge foil of 1750cm really annoys me by now, it gets kicked around by the waves. After talking to the locals I just placed an order for Armstrong S1 1250 I was told that one should be better in waves for an intermediate like me. Should arrive next week. I asked the local pro's about high aspect foils and they said better not yet for me, they said first try just a smaller "normal" foil.
Sounds like good advice! I think you will have fun with that new foil.
Many thanks for this (another ;-)) brilliant video. It's exactly what I'm currently asking when it comes to choosing a new foil - thanks!
I've just switched to a Lemon, but I'd be really interested to hear more from you about your new Diamond.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your nice comment!
Thanks for the Video! astonishingly relevant for me, as I am 85kg and also own a cruzader diamond in 6'0 (wanna be able to get out when the wind stops on those swiss lakes ;)) but absolutely trying to downwind as well. As a friend of mine just sank my fluid H XL setup while wakefoiling (foilbox ripped out of the slingshot board :P) i ordered the Curve H XL instead hoping to score on those slow windbumps we get with the fluid H 45 stab. Ordered the Curve H because patrice said in a tech talk that the curve H V2 was the last foil to be released and it's the closest, the least difference to V3 and i was so tempted to order the V3s and wait but a lot of preorder is already sold out and i can not wait without wing gear for another month or so :) Will hopefully test it out on monday, fingers crossed for wind and the post to deliver in time - But absolutely will order the Veloce V3 or even the Veloce HDW when the damn V2 to V3 fuselages become available to order again, glide supposed to be very good :) absolutely happy with my gong gear so far. Own the Ypra Surf XL as well for stronger winds and wakefoiling. It's awesome behind a boat!
Thanks for your comment! Looks like you are enjoying your gear! Let me know how it goes with the new foils!
@@windaddictcurve H XL V2 is very good, really easy and fast, much easier to pump than the Fluid H XL v2, easier to sail huge distances BUT it's a bit boring compared to the fluid, which is so lively. Ordered veloce HDW XL and Veloce L v3, lets see if this scrartches my itch. Otherwise ill get the fluid H v3 😇
Big fan of the Veloce XL for ligher winds (I'm 86kg) but I found that pairing it with the Veloce H 44 stab instead of the Fluid H 45 really gave it an ultimate boost in glide without any drawbacks. For higher winds and wave conditions I use a Curve v2 M with it's 39cm curve M stab and that's really fun if you like to make turns, it just never stalls !
Interesting. I was recommended the Fluid H stab by a Gong advisor who said it was the best compromise between speed, glide and turning. So I'm going to stick with it.
I am also very happy with the V2 Veloce model (L for winds over 14 kts, XL for under 14 Kts, and XXL for my Foil Drive in small waves). I’m 75 kg. Owned a V2 Fluid H L for a brief time. It was ok but the Veloce V2 was far more versatile.
Most people just want to ride swell/waves so foil performance is typically described with only that in mind, but I also like doing lots of strapless flat freestyle stuff. Numerous different upwind/downwind combinations. Good top end speed combined with low stall speed are critical for me in addition to easy rail-to-rail and decent pumping. Veloce V2 checks all the boxes. My dilemma now is what V3 foil will improve upon that. I’m hoping it’s the Fluid H V3, which I’m guessing is quite different from the V2 Fluid H. No way to know for sure. I always have to buy-to-try.
Good to know you also love the Veloce V2! I honestly don't think there is a V3 foil there yet that would take its place. I would only consider something like Veloce HDW for downwinding (and downwinding only), but then it's a very specialized foil. I don't have a big appetite for more high-aspect stuff currently.
F my old message deleted…
I totally agree with you.
Trying the curveH xs in kitefoiling but with my rough sea it’s far from ideal imo.
Will sell it soon, searchin a faster and smaller curve st… fluid v2 xs was almost perfect but flat dihedral is hard to control, probably next front will be an old veloce st or xst… imo perfect ar for me and my style is between 6 and 7.. and seeing the new ypra freestyle I am not wrong.
Yeah it was really funny to see that the new Ypra Surf-Freestyle basically went back to a mid-aspect shape. I don't know why they still have "Ypra" in the name because this has nothing to do with the original Ypra.
@@windaddict it’s the pure freestyle front wing so it’s an ypra anyway I think.
If it works better in waves and in freestyle it’s a better race frontwing so this is more Ypra than the old one 🙌😆
Have you noticed how THICK it is instead? Just Wow.
Yeah really thick in the "big sizes". Again, not an Ypra shape in my eyes. So I doubt it is good for racing.
@@windaddict ypra s xs was 0.8 thick while the new ypra surf freestyle xxs is 1.2… the S is the most interesting of the new ones imo with 620cm2 and ar 6.8 but it is 1.42cm… too damn much for going fast, it’s totally not a front for slalom racing or freefly or speed it’s for freestyle and wave comps.
For freestyle will be even better than the old one, you need more stability when sea is messed up and you just don’t want a foil that makes you fall while you accellerate, pop and repop.
While the old one was just standard ypra slightly modified (surf was slightly lower ar, freestyle was surf with shorter fuse AND it needed a new fuse just for it) this year they made a more focused front wing.
This is totally not for racing slalom, speed or else… it’s not their program.
Agree with your thoughts aspect 8.5 is magic number for me curve h L,xl or xxl for low wind to mid small slow waves to meduim
Ypra xl fir higher winds med to bigger waves .
Veloce v3 xl in post will do a vid just my opinions at 95kg 😊
Veloce dw13 aspect and v3 veloce is around 10 apparently easy to get on foil we will see 😊
So many options for foils! 😁
Too many.
They should get rid of ⅔ off them
Would be far easy to know which to buy then
there is one big issue for us ! we are heavy 😅 it's seem nothing but it a big deal.
There is one debate in the prone foil community at the moment , there's people that just enjoy riding and carving the wave and those who want to reconnect , which means you have to either choose a bigger foil to pump or a foil with maniability, the heavier you are and the more foil become distinct for each use therefore you loose versatility . The lighter you are the easier you can get away from a lot of issue . Add that with brand that want you to have a foil for each discipline , surf , wing , jump, pump and you are doomed.
You make a very good point. I guess we cannot find out unless we go through a massive weight loss program like Patrice Guénolé did 😂
@@windaddicti read he was 96kg , but he look like sick i think.
Cool.. bist nach Barcelona. Ich hab für lightwind Windwellen wingen, downwinden das Curve H L mit 80kg und es ist der perfekte Kompromiss aus allen. Vor allem pumpt es super und mit AR 9,5 der beste glide. Ab 15kt hab ich ein 800er mit AR10 von cabrinha. Perfekt. Das Curve H S 700 fahr ich manchmal, bringt aber wenig Vorteile außer schneller, gut wenn grosse Wellen schieben für max Kontrolle und dreht etwas enger. Der glide ist beim 700er aber wieder deutlich schlechter als beim L 1100. Ich glaube AR 7,5 ist cool für surfen und steilere Wellen mit Weißwasser, aber glide mit mehr aspect finde ich toll. Manchmal ist langsam auch besser um im besten Teil der Welle zu bleiben mit besten Schub. Natürlich ab 100cm Span wird mir auch alles zu schwammig. Da fängt das foil an die Bewegung unter Wasser mitzunehmen wie bei deinem Veloce H. Hab mal Veloce V3 bestellt... Ich glaube etwas mehr AR wie Curve H würde dir helfen noch mehr die Power der Wellen zu nutzen und kleinere Wings fahren zu können und weniger mit Windpower zu fahren - kennt halt jeder Windsurfer oder Kiter nur so. Die Curves sind vor allem fett im Center/Profil, das macht sehr frühen Aufstieg und die stallen im Prinzip nicht. Das Ypra S ist zu anstrengend auf Dauer und war in Wellen sehr mittelmäßig. Vielleicht kommst mal nach Sardinien im Winter. Dann meldest dich 😊 ah fahre Cruz 5.6xl in lightwind und ein 65l 5.0 oder 4.6 bei Wind über 15kt. Eigentlich perfekt soweit. Das Cruz 5.6 dreht halt noch gut ist ist sicher nix unter 10kt, aber da kann man auch was anderes machen 😅
Ja leider kann ich nicht alle Modelle testen. Hab mich aber fürs Veloce entschieden weil es schneller ist als das Curve-H. Klingt als hättest du das richtige Material für dich gefunden!!
Very interesting, I m 87 kg and ride mostly veloce xl and M with a fluid 42 stab with a lethal 95 l here in the beaches of Perpignan and Leucate. I have never tried high aspect foils, I think you can do a lot with my gear , and I want it to be easy to fly because I fall a lot 😂 !
Good to know you are also enjoying the Veloce! I will be in Leucate the next 2 weeks, maybe I'll see you ;-)
I also have had the v2 fluid H, Ypra S… V2 Veloce is my favourite… sit nicley in the mid. Ground
Yes, the Veloce V2 is a great allrounder and great for waves
I tried almost all. Aspect means glide, more thickness easier get up but slower, thin is the opposte. Large of board is important. Change your wing with a more rigid one, droid for example. V3 fluid can do everything well, V3 veloce are more glide'n speed oriented.Veloce V3 de is maybe too much dw specialized.
Nice summary, thanks!
Thanks for another very informative video! I've been watching your content for a while and I am especially grateful because I am pretty much the same weight category and there is not too many reviews from non-featherweights over youtube. I think I have similar impressions with kinda still in-between mid and high aspect ratio front wing Gong Curve H XXL which is AR 8.4. I feel it gives good compromise between glide and maneuverability on mostly weak (10-12 knts) and unstable wind conditions inland where I foil most of the time. My most narrow board at the moment is Mint FSP x2 2023 105L and I have a temptation to go for an even narrower one to take off faster but I am a bit scared because Mint is already wobbly in roll axis when the wind dies out and no take-off is possible. Do you have any experience with these narrow boards when the wind is close to or below 5 knts and you just want to go back to the beach?
Thanks! I got quite used to the Cruzader 7'0 by now and overall it is comfortable for me in light winds. However if you have to taxi back to the beach in 5 knots or less it is never fun, especially in chop. With the smaller Cruzader Diamond 5'8 it is miserable, then you just gotta sit on the board.
I changed from a HipePro 5'3 to a Cruzador Diamond 6'3. Same Volume. Took me 5 minutes 😮 to get accustomed to the narrower board. I totally regret not to have switched earlier! No fear, its way more easy than I thought, even when the wind dies to zero!
@@roadrunnermakmakand your weight is...? :)
@@AdamOakmanComposer 80-85kg depends on season ;-)
Thanks for your videos. In your opinion, wich is better option for light wind, cruzader diamond or cruzader point?
It highly depends. What do you consider light wind? 10 knots or more? Then I would go for the Cruzader Diamond with a volume that is about the same as your body weight. If you want to go down to 5-10 knots you probably need a Cruzader Point in a larger size, but that's almost a different sport. Cruzader Point gives you a little extra edge on light wind performance but is harder to handle because it's very narrow.
@@windaddict Thank you very much for your answer. My weight is 73 kg and I used to go with Unit 6,5 m2 and 1250 cm2 front foil in light winds. Light wind I mean from 9-10 kts. Based in your answer I think a Cruzader 80 L could suits for me.
How is your experience so far concerning the durability of your Diamond? I'm a bit afraid hearing the stories of the first cruzader being overly sensitive. Can you ease my mind?
The first one I got a tiny ding on it. I must have set it down on a sharp rock. I got it fixed and since then no problems. The Cruzader Diamond so far no problems but it's very new still.
Im on a small lake 80% (@82 kg) with cruz Diamond 6'3 lately (before that a HipePro5'3).
Have you tried the Ypra-S yet? My impression: very much faster, more agile, more glide and way more upwind possibilities than the Veloce V2 (I use the Veloce L, Ypra-S in L and XL.) But a little less 'forgiving' in staying up in jibes and tacks.
I still havent found the perfekt Stabs for it (have the Fluid 42/220 and Freestyle 46/250. Probably Go for a Veloce H V2 40/175? Any recommendations for Stabs?
For YpraS XL, the best stab is the veloce H V2 44, and for the YpraS L veloce H V2 40 by far
Fluid and freestyle stabs are realy slowing down this wing, without adding anything.
Not sure about that. Gong advisors recommend the fluid stabs with YpraS if you want to use it in waves for turning. On a lake yes, Veloce-H stab makes sense
Do you think there is a foil set weight difference between gong and others? There are some that are lighter
I don't know. But I don't think weight in the foil matters much tbh
@@windaddict it matters when carrying the thing
@vim55k true. They just don't seem heavy to me
@@windaddict I remembered now why I started to ask about the weight of foil. It is when calculating total weight including foil assist to use with a 12L board such that it will not sink :)
@@vim55k wow, 12L is tiny
Are they the best choice? They are if you wanna go fast!
You mean high aspect?
Which stabilizer are you using with your Veloce H?
I don't have a Veloce H. You mean the Veloce? These are the 2 combos I'm using:
Gong Veloce v2 XL (99cm, 1300 cm²). AR 7.5
Gong Stab Pro Fluid H (45cm) size L
Gong Veloce v2 M (82cm, 900 cm²). AR 7.5
Gong Stab Pro Fluid H (42cm) size M
@@windaddict I mean the V2 950cm2, I'm currently using the Fluid 42 and it's not quite what I'm after.
@@windaddict Hi, have you tried your Veloce M with stab fluid L? does it work? I currently ride Curve L/stab fluid L and consider getting a Veloce M to ride faster but don't want to have too much gear
@@sebastiendiet4311 I am using it with a Fluid H M stab (42). Not sure if the L size would work well with it.
where inSpain are you?
My home spots are Vilassar and Premia close to Barcelona
@@windaddict ill be close to Tarragona in Sept /Oct. But thats too far for a session.. great content..!
@@mattonfoil yes that is a bit far. Have fun there! Thanks!
I’m 95kg and ride gusty lakes with Slick 7m, Lance 5’8 (130l) and X-over XXL. Just starting to consistently get on foil, but already thinking about more light wind focused gear. Cruzader and Sirius seem to be what Gong promotes, but a too big step for me. What would recommend?
I think the Mint could be a good choice for you as a next step!
The cruzader is an amazing light wind board and could be the only only one you need if you’re on a lake. Buy a large size for comfort. Get a large Curve H foil like a 3XLH and a large stab Fluid 47h or 49h which will make riding very stable and take off so easily you’ll have a huge grin every time. Sure it won’t feel as stable as your current board but you’ll get used to it quickly. I’m 72 kg and went for the inflatable 7.6 which is obviously much easier to store. This setup work perfectly from 5 to 20 knots.
Gong shill.
I buy whichever brand I want. In my last video I talked about Levitaz and Ozone products too. If you don't like my content, stop watching it
I suppose Gong is much cheaper than many brands, so why buy other brands if Gong gives good results
@@vim55k exactly
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