I think , without triple primary coil turn ,it will be more better and easier if we use thicker gauge wire and 1x 3 watt 10k resistor (for three transistor) because if we use 3 different wire for primary coil then there will be a little frequency difference between those transistors which produces noise at the output of the secondary HV end (unstable and noisy corona discharge) and also this video is so nice :-) BTW also increase the gap between the primary and the secondary winding otherwise there will be internal arcing between them in which those transistors will spend more current and you will get less arc length (basically power wastage) . Good luck!
@Heads Mess I think one application could be having multiple of the same power source, but not wanting to fry your oscillators by pumping all the power through just one, so you synchronize them all to individually feed into the coil. I could be wrong but smaller, lower power parts seem more stable and economically viable than larger, industrial level components.
work much better with high voltage on the primary, no less than 250v and either mosfets or vacuum tubes. The primary voltage needs to be at the resonate frequency of the secondary.
very cool. So you believe the three primaries help reinforce the resonance? What would happen if you set the three primaries at different frequencies, but arranged their off and on phases to switch on one after the other?
I know this is an old comment but what you said contradicts itself. If their off and on phases are after one another, they can't be different frequencies. They would just end up syncing to a new frequency based on the slowest one. As for what would happen if you used different frequencies with a resonant circuit, they can't all be resonating. To resonate it needs to be a specific frequency that can be calculated. Slayer exciters are fun because they self tune to their resonant frequency. But if you impose a different frequency, you'll still have a Tesla coil. Just one significantly less powerful for the same input power. It would basically be a transformer without a core.
The old man is talking crazy or was he. There was study done there is a way of layering a wave form so it reinforces, didnt that make everything burn out though?
You can publish your project tutorials on platforms like Instructables and Hacksterio. You can reach a wider audience and then you can direct them to your channel.
i've also done a 3 primaries slayer exciter, not like this, i've seen the schematic online and it's alotta wrong, sorry, here's some tips and my version::: - you don't need ALL THOSE DIODES, just one instead of two in series gets the job done, on the other "channels" you don't need diodes also, the only one fitted will hold the negative swing for the 3 transistors and avoid breaking, a 1N4148 or UF4007 will go (UF stands for Ultra Fast, don't use a 1N4007) - fit a resistor in series on every transistor's bases, like 1ohm, this will level the current drive, otherwise the thermal runaway of the transistors will make the whole system run on just one of em and they may blow in succession (and deliver only one third of current even if not blowing) (- you may instead fit that resistor on the emitter, it has kinda the same effect but having separate primaries it's better on the base) - use identical transistors and hopefully from the same batch - you don't need three resistors as well to crank the oscillation, the one that goes to Vcc, one is enough, experiment with it, it's not critical but it's value must be divided between the amount of primaries - the smaller the coil the faster the transistors need to be, for that size a TIP41C or BD243C is good, for smaller sizes of the secondary you can go with some BD139, for even smaller go with BC639 or BCX56 (hard to find and the latter is SMD but solderable on a piece of copper to cool it) - twist the primaries toghter in a cord to make em behave the same toward the secondary, don't wrap em around at layers, you can also use some enameled wire wound on a slightly larger pipe and hot glue the wires, make the connections short - don't common the heatsinks, the transistors collectors need to be separate - one transistor -> one primary... join em only on the Vcc side - a big secondary will quite likely disperse the electric field, so mind power, size and final frequency my coil is 12cm high, 2cm of diameter, like 800 turns of thin wire (maybe a bit small), runs on 3 fake BD139 (2N2222A quite likely inside... you know... eBay... but you can place em on an heatsink :D), and i power it at 12V... primary is just two turns of enameled copper on a 3cm dia. piece of pipe, it runs at like 2.7MHz so the higher the frequency (cos of small size) the less primary turns you need, more turns = less current... less turns = more likely you blow the transistors (buy a pack of em if you can)
Sloth & Chunk, taking care of your yoga neighbours Hi there, may I ask what gauge wire is suitable? And wires shouldn’t cross, only one turn/layer? Thank you
What if we used a 1kohm variable resistor to make a simple divider and we tune it, this way we can tune it closer to the resonance. I use a single MOSFET which gets dumb hot even on a huge heatsink, im thinking of configuring a triple primary so i can test the power and heat. If this doesn't work, I'll have to get in deeper to use a gate driver which intimidates me.
There is information online about using transistors in parallel. there is 3 tricks or more to balance the power there is a formula for the correct resistor for the base of the transistor. If you run many in parallel they might run cooler anyways
@@szekerespista3758 Im starting to learn, it takes so much time. The basic formula was as follows: Current (at Base) x Transistors gain (HFe) = current at Collector (the output). Thats It! The current at the transistor Base is set by a small resistor there Voltage divided by Resistance = Base turn on current for that transistor. Say have a 12v signal at the base 100 ohm resistor = .12 amps If your transistor has a gain of 26 then multiply .12×26= 2.4 Amps at 12v thats well over 25 watts dissipation. In summery. Ib x Hfe = Ic or output current Ib = V÷resistor The web address lookup Petervis GCSE_design
@@ludicscience I made this. With single primary. It was not working. Then I reversed the primary direction (it is now opposite to direction of secondary). Working now. No arcs. 18v 2amp power.
I have plans from the Philadelphia experiment. 3 coils 3 meter long, oriented in X,Y,Z orientation mounted in close proximity ( on a 1 meter Bakelite 1 inch plate). The primary was run at 4 million volts. From basic physics it makes absolutely no sense. Can you explain what this configuration? I got this from patients at the VA in the early 1980’s and worked on mounting the system!
UF4007 and 1N4007, the numbers are similar but the characteristics are quite different in UF and 1N. UF4007 is a ultra fast recovery diode, and 1N4007 is a 60Hz power supply rectification (very slow) diode. So 1N4007 can't work at this freaquency.
saudações do Brasil a todos. esses experimentos com alta tensão são muito bons. a bobina de Tesla é fantástica!!!! pena que ele não entendia a lei da termodinâmica e se perdeu num sonho impossível de transmitir energia a grandes distâncias sem perdas de potência. parabéns pelo vídeo. sucesso.
Hey, what do you think about wireless energy configured in such a way that in the room you've got an emitter and walls are receivers so no energy is lost, it goes back to the system? Other than that I've heard about Tesla's another kind of waves which have no delay, transmit energy directly instead of all around and a system where the receiver triggers the emitter. That sounds too awesome though.
Hi #LudicScience, I have seen many youtube videos about PLL SSTC. In such a small coil the arcs produced by the secondary is very large .....about 3 inch maybe. Could you please make a tutorial about how to make those PLL SSTC ? Since no youtuber has ever made such a tutorial. It will be a great help for me and all others who waiting to build those PLL SSTC....🙏🙏🙏 PS : The way you explain things is super awesome.....💯💯
15Ghz single pulse square wave energy transfer (one pulse in every 2 for 5-15Ghz) TH-camNinjaExpand Thank you very much for your posted video . Difference of a length of wire y 2.3 cm compaired to the 3cm version of the antena for 4 nano newtons of force to 4KN. (amps to newtons for up to 200 columbs) @
what is that wire in metrical mm ? i've build myself some years ago some mini tesla coils (height ~6cm) with the same amount of plasma arcs. You can buy at Aliexpress mini tesla coils (SSTC) for around 5$ .. you only habe to solder yourself that handful of parts ^^
30 gauge wire is 0,01 inches. So 0,254mm. It's very odd to work with if you're used to thicker wire such as the usual 1,5mm to 16mm you have for basic household wiring. At least it still feels odd to me. I can't get used to it.
I would have enjoyed it if you had the disency to show an arc, if i want to turn on light bulbs i plugg them in to 220, what's the purpose of a coil if you don't show an arc properly
THANK YOU MY FRIEND FOR SHARING THIS WITH US. WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IS DO YOU WIND THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY IN THE SAME DIRECTION. BOTH CLOCKWISE OR BOTH COUNTER CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. THANK YOY
Can you add 1 capacitor parallel to primary and 1 parallel to secondary for a double LC resonance-coupling? Woulnd't it make a better power-flow and stronger arks?
I don't know man... I wouldn't use a nice and expensive DC supply on HV projects. Better take a transformer as power source. It's more robust and I don't think the circuit really cares if you have +-1V or so
I think , without triple primary coil turn ,it will be more better and easier if we use thicker gauge wire and 1x 3 watt 10k resistor (for three transistor) because if we use 3 different wire for primary coil then there will be a little frequency difference between those transistors which produces noise at the output of the secondary HV end (unstable and noisy corona discharge) and also this video is so nice :-) BTW also increase the gap between the primary and the secondary winding otherwise there will be internal arcing between them in which those transistors will spend more current and you will get less arc length (basically power wastage) . Good luck!
Thank you for sharing your Tutorials. Watching from the Philippines.
How many primaries can you shove onto a tesla coil? The world may never know.
😀😁😂
the Primary has to be in "sync" with the secondary (resonance)
OBV10U3_NINJA 😂
A bizillion coil🥴🤣
@Heads Mess I think one application could be having multiple of the same power source, but not wanting to fry your oscillators by pumping all the power through just one, so you synchronize them all to individually feed into the coil. I could be wrong but smaller, lower power parts seem more stable and economically viable than larger, industrial level components.
Thank you for sharing, could you make a video where you make the triple slayer exciter into a musical slayer exciter? It would be awesome
work much better with high voltage on the primary, no less than 250v and either mosfets or vacuum tubes. The primary voltage needs to be at the resonate frequency of the secondary.
very cool. So you believe the three primaries help reinforce the resonance? What would happen if you set the three primaries at different frequencies, but arranged their off and on phases to switch on one after the other?
I know this is an old comment but what you said contradicts itself.
If their off and on phases are after one another, they can't be different frequencies. They would just end up syncing to a new frequency based on the slowest one.
As for what would happen if you used different frequencies with a resonant circuit, they can't all be resonating. To resonate it needs to be a specific frequency that can be calculated.
Slayer exciters are fun because they self tune to their resonant frequency. But if you impose a different frequency, you'll still have a Tesla coil. Just one significantly less powerful for the same input power. It would basically be a transformer without a core.
The old man is talking crazy or was he. There was study done there is a way of layering a wave form so it reinforces, didnt that make everything burn out though?
Very descriptive and easy to follow. Thank you for a good presentation.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with coming up with the 3 primary coil
That was great! You explained that very well.
Thank you for sharing
You can publish your project tutorials on platforms like Instructables and Hacksterio. You can reach a wider audience and then you can direct them to your channel.
What was the current draw at 32v? Maybe cascade a 12v car battery with power supply to get some jumping arc's :-)
Around 3,5 amps
this is a SSTC try a SGTC instead
i've also done a 3 primaries slayer exciter, not like this, i've seen the schematic online and it's alotta wrong, sorry, here's some tips and my version:::
- you don't need ALL THOSE DIODES, just one instead of two in series gets the job done, on the other "channels" you don't need diodes also, the only one fitted will hold the negative swing for the 3 transistors and avoid breaking, a 1N4148 or UF4007 will go (UF stands for Ultra Fast, don't use a 1N4007)
- fit a resistor in series on every transistor's bases, like 1ohm, this will level the current drive, otherwise the thermal runaway of the transistors will make the whole system run on just one of em and they may blow in succession (and deliver only one third of current even if not blowing)
(- you may instead fit that resistor on the emitter, it has kinda the same effect but having separate primaries it's better on the base)
- use identical transistors and hopefully from the same batch
- you don't need three resistors as well to crank the oscillation, the one that goes to Vcc, one is enough, experiment with it, it's not critical but it's value must be divided between the amount of primaries
- the smaller the coil the faster the transistors need to be, for that size a TIP41C or BD243C is good, for smaller sizes of the secondary you can go with some BD139, for even smaller go with BC639 or BCX56 (hard to find and the latter is SMD but solderable on a piece of copper to cool it)
- twist the primaries toghter in a cord to make em behave the same toward the secondary, don't wrap em around at layers, you can also use some enameled wire wound on a slightly larger pipe and hot glue the wires, make the connections short
- don't common the heatsinks, the transistors collectors need to be separate
- one transistor -> one primary... join em only on the Vcc side
- a big secondary will quite likely disperse the electric field, so mind power, size and final frequency
my coil is 12cm high, 2cm of diameter, like 800 turns of thin wire (maybe a bit small), runs on 3 fake BD139 (2N2222A quite likely inside... you know... eBay... but you can place em on an heatsink :D), and i power it at 12V... primary is just two turns of enameled copper on a 3cm dia. piece of pipe, it runs at like 2.7MHz so the higher the frequency (cos of small size) the less primary turns you need, more turns = less current... less turns = more likely you blow the transistors (buy a pack of em if you can)
Sloth & Chunk, taking care of your yoga neighbours
Hi there, may I ask what gauge wire is suitable? And wires shouldn’t cross, only one turn/layer?
Thank you
Ayy 10 cm coil squad!
What transistor did Tesla use? ....
Try making slayer exciter with irfp460n mosfet
therefor you will need a mosfet driver
No u dont need a driver
@insaane www.pinterest.es/pin/821625525751774720/
I used tip 31c
@insaane thanks i was having this issue
I expected crazy arcs
Yeah me too
It's really only one primary, you just made it thicker.
it is but it also isnt. The primary is common grounded but positive is split
@@juntendo6104 Ah, Nevermind. At 7:23 I thought that wire was connecting the collectors together.
Thank you for this👍
What is the output voltage of this and also the frequency?
3333 V , 999999 Hz
@@imeprezime1285brat je Nikola tesla 🔥🗣
Verry nice! I thing i'm going to build one.
Thanks
@@ludicscience where can I add a capacitor?
Collector and emitter?
Or emitter and the primary coil???
Great job as usual
Thanks!
Did you ever try recording a video on your I pad getting close to it and it goes heywire?
Hello sir but I have 2 9volt battery we can use that
Sir quickly reply sir
Yes
Can I use 24v 700mah as input power ?? Plz reply .. I am making this...
Yes you can
@@ludicscience thanks. Sir. TIP41C is not available in my locality.. plz suggest a equivalent transistor ...
What if we used a 1kohm variable resistor to make a simple divider and we tune it, this way we can tune it closer to the resonance.
I use a single MOSFET which gets dumb hot even on a huge heatsink, im thinking of configuring a triple primary so i can test the power and heat. If this doesn't work, I'll have to get in deeper to use a gate driver which intimidates me.
Can you make it more powerful with Flyback transformer please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sadly no, unless the flyback feeds into the transistors, but then youll probably bow them
You can instead make a spark gap tesla coil for those huge arcs !!
@@nightrous3026 ohh ok
@@rudraagrawal1988 ohh got it✨
6:33 what makes phase difference between three primary circuit drivers ??
If I had excess money I would visit your patreon besh. Nice video
I did, but I will add your modifications, is that I think that not all transistors are working. thank you.
Most waited video finally out ✌💯💯💯💯
Thanks
@@ludicscience Welcome
Very nice video. What was the approximate length of the secondary plastic tube?
Thanks.
35 cm
Can i use 3 transistor in series?
There is information online about using transistors in parallel. there is 3 tricks or more to balance the power there is a formula for the correct resistor for the base of the transistor. If you run many in parallel they might run cooler anyways
@@mike289homebuilt5 could you please offer more information or a link. Thanks!
@@szekerespista3758 Im starting to learn, it takes so much time. The basic formula was as follows:
Current (at Base) x Transistors gain (HFe) = current at Collector (the output).
Thats It!
The current at the transistor Base is set by a small resistor there Voltage divided by Resistance = Base turn on current for that transistor.
Say have a 12v signal at the base 100 ohm resistor = .12 amps If your transistor has a gain of 26 then multiply .12×26= 2.4 Amps at 12v thats well over 25 watts dissipation.
In summery. Ib x Hfe = Ic or output current Ib = V÷resistor
The web address lookup Petervis GCSE_design
@@mike289homebuilt5 thanks!
I have a question is this a discharge system or a charge system any idea or nothing...
Are the primary coils wound in opposite directions or clockwise both? In the video this fact wasn' t stated i think. Many thanks anyway!
All coils in the same direction
@@ludicscience
I made this.
With single primary.
It was not working.
Then I reversed the primary direction (it is now opposite to direction of secondary).
Working now.
No arcs. 18v 2amp power.
Boy now
Made my primary wind in same direction only reversed the connection wires. I used 7 amp transistor it works good
I have plans from the Philadelphia experiment. 3 coils 3 meter long, oriented in X,Y,Z orientation mounted in close proximity ( on a 1 meter Bakelite 1 inch plate). The primary was run at 4 million volts. From basic physics it makes absolutely no sense. Can you explain what this configuration? I got this from patients at the VA in the early 1980’s and worked on mounting the system!
You mean the movie?
Does this triple circuit mean the three transistors hv their frequency at the same time interval? Thank you.
Thanks you have covered everything simply, perfect for a complete novice like me.I,m building one very soon.subscibed.cheers
Not sure if it was spoken but the captioning said two resistors.
Can we use 1n4007 instead of uf4007 cause most of the characteristics match?😅😌😕
UF4007 and 1N4007, the numbers are similar but the characteristics are quite different in UF and 1N. UF4007 is a ultra fast recovery diode, and 1N4007 is a 60Hz power supply rectification (very slow) diode. So 1N4007 can't work at this freaquency.
saudações do Brasil a todos. esses experimentos com alta tensão são muito bons. a bobina de Tesla é fantástica!!!! pena que ele não entendia a lei da termodinâmica e se perdeu num sonho impossível de transmitir energia a grandes distâncias sem perdas de potência. parabéns pelo vídeo. sucesso.
Thanks obrigado
@@ludicscience . tu merece. sucesso.
Sir i have question is this a discharge system? Or charging system in our atmosphere... Pls answer me....
Please give me the method of building long spark Tesla coil using capacitors and spark gap. I didn't found proper way to make such Tesla coil
he did
thank you very much brother
Instead of saying "A W G" just say "gauge"
Thanks
How much volts out put in secedrry coil..?
Can we power with rectified mains if we use 13007 transistors please tell sir
Hey, what do you think about wireless energy configured in such a way that in the room you've got an emitter and walls are receivers so no energy is lost, it goes back to the system?
Other than that I've heard about Tesla's another kind of waves which have no delay, transmit energy directly instead of all around and a system where the receiver triggers the emitter. That sounds too awesome though.
Sounds awesome but is impossible
i think he's talking about emitter tesla coil and receiver tesla coil tuned at the same resonant frequency.
Really great video, please can you make a mot tesla coil... I love your videos!
Thanks!
can someone please help is the first transistor with the copper wire connected to the base and emitter
the one with black wire
how can they make music?
Wow! Where did you get this idea from? 🙀
Hi #LudicScience, I have seen many youtube videos about PLL SSTC. In such a small coil the arcs produced by the secondary is very large .....about 3 inch maybe. Could you please make a tutorial about how to make those PLL SSTC ?
Since no youtuber has ever made such a tutorial. It will be a great help for me and all others who waiting to build those PLL SSTC....🙏🙏🙏
PS : The way you explain things is super awesome.....💯💯
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try use a paper on the top coil wire...
will it fire or not
15Ghz single pulse square wave energy transfer (one pulse in every 2 for 5-15Ghz) TH-camNinjaExpand Thank you very much for your posted video . Difference of a length of wire y 2.3 cm compaired to the 3cm version of the antena for 4 nano newtons of force to 4KN. (amps to newtons for up to 200 columbs)
@
Can i use d718 transistors?
por que 3 bobinas si van paralelas es como si fuera solo una, podrías poner solo una bobina que fuera conectada a los 3 transistores.
what is that wire in metrical mm ? i've build myself some years ago some mini tesla coils (height ~6cm) with the same amount of plasma arcs.
You can buy at Aliexpress mini tesla coils (SSTC) for around 5$ .. you only habe to solder yourself that handful of parts ^^
30 gauge wire is 0,01 inches.
So 0,254mm.
It's very odd to work with if you're used to thicker wire such as the usual 1,5mm to 16mm you have for basic household wiring. At least it still feels odd to me. I can't get used to it.
Can the wire be enameled
Must be enameled
Excellent 👍👍 👍 great job
thanks
Good video, Thanks
why 2 diodes ?
Probably, voltage rating was too small for 1
I would have enjoyed it if you had the disency to show an arc, if i want to turn on light bulbs i plugg them in to 220, what's the purpose of a coil if you don't show an arc properly
He did, you were clearly not paying attention 8:35 .
@@steve1 thats not an arc thats a tiny energy leakage
@@jonatanvillagran3253 its a coronal discharge, but as he moves the bulb closer there are a couple of small arcs.
the most you would get at 30v would be about 1.2cm, from 12v it would be about 5mm.
@@jonatanvillagran3253 well obviously its an energy leakage - its called an arc
THANK YOU MY FRIEND FOR SHARING THIS WITH US. WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IS DO YOU WIND THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY IN THE SAME DIRECTION. BOTH CLOCKWISE OR BOTH COUNTER CLOCKWISE DIRECTION. THANK YOY
Same direction
Manuel eres tú?
for winding the secondary, just use a motor, its really easy with a motor
Use a drill.
Is tesla coil electromagnetic radiation dangerous for health?
No
Sir please try making slayer exciter tesla coil with mosfet and mosfet driver.
No diodes and sigle transistor you have more power spark
Mine doesnt work
good
thanks
good job !!!
Can you add 1 capacitor parallel to primary and 1 parallel to secondary for a double LC resonance-coupling? Woulnd't it make a better power-flow and stronger arks?
no dude capacitor won't work over here it will disable the circuit
A capacitor will certainly lower the frequency. Use only in the primary.
Can it works with Tip 35 c?
Yes but no more than 12 v
@@ludicscience
I have an souce of DC current what give me 12 V with 106 A
106 A! what kind of source is that?
@@ludicscience Is an very powerfull source😁
Can you give me your email adress?
I want to send you some photos
I don't know man... I wouldn't use a nice and expensive DC supply on HV projects. Better take a transformer as power source. It's more robust and I don't think the circuit really cares if you have +-1V or so
TIP31C is more powerful for me at 16v 1inch arcs
MJE3055t is even better
Love you man
😊
Thank you but how mane turn in your coil
1200
Can i use TIP31C?
TIP31C works fine
But I would prefer IRFP260N
prajwal kashyap i have IRFP460
@@69poseidon34
You can use IRFP460 but make sure not to exceed 20V bias (read datasheet)
prajwal kashyap thanks can i use another diode?
prajwal kashyap i have IN5408 diode can i use
Increase the topload capacitance!
Not too much high voltage low voltage
The primary looks like the flag of Germany
Very cool
It worked
Sorry but I skip through the ad as it is too long. Appreciate the videos
Thanks
muito legal. vou tentar fazer, mas é complicado o circuito
i used 20 V and tip41c died
Sir ...use 2sc5200 transistor.
i ill try
Wire no. ?????
Not working
good 32 v!!!
✌
Otro nuevo suscrito, un saludo campeón.
Can I use LED instead of UF4007?
yes you certainly can! LEDs are basically ultra fast diode.I used it for lsayer exciter and it worked flawlessly
I used 2 led at 24 volts and it worked good everything got too bright.
I need your urgent help pls help me
About what ?
@@markoristic3535 to make the project
@@markoristic3535 can i have ur whatsApp number
Какой смысл в трех транзисторах? У меня на одном транзисторе а стример гораздо сильнее...
🥰🥰😍😍😍😍
How much voltage you applied air
12 volt