🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:23 *🔄 Fame farming methods like PvE builds are popular for leveling weapons, but this approach might be inefficient if not using the gear in the future.* 00:01:23 *💰 Using PvE builds to level weapons can require significant silver costs, up to 30 million, which may not be worthwhile if the build isn't used further.* 00:02:18 *🏹 Experimentation with different weapons, such as dagger pairs, shows varied Fame per hour rates compared to top options like Nature and Spiked Gauntlets.* 00:03:13 *📈 Fame from PvE weapons contributes to both weapon and armor pieces, with receiving credit points affected by gear level and respec settings.* 00:03:45 *⚔️ Using zones like the Mists effectively requires killing all evolved mobs and considering dungeons like the Abbey for efficient Fame farming.* 00:04:42 *🧵 Using different armor types affects damage output, and equivalent gear adjustments may require additional weapon IP for consistent farming speed.* 05:17 *🚫 Focus on specific builds instead of unnecessary PvE setups if not planning their future use; this enhances Fame farming efficiency and saves silver.* Made with HARPA AI
@@ButterscotchTheButty most probably not, but, because of your guide, they will at least be more efficient than the ones just killing random mobs for fame.
@@ButterscotchTheButty plus, this might be embarrassing to say, even though I have hundreds of hours in this game, I still didn't really understood how to efficiently fame Farm, and I've watched a ton of guides, and yours is the only one I truly understood. Kudos to you man.
@@poru6482 the funny story is I actually just killed all mobs i saw myself, ha-ha. Mists may not be the most efficient, but it is definitely the most accesible option.
@@ButterscotchTheButty oh, I see, hahaha lol. Anyways, still a very informative video, looking forward for more videos from you, keep up the great work, man!
You are an absolute monster. I can't even put in words how well made the video is, and how far ahead of te competition you are for not going for clickbait methods and actually teaching something useful. Made me remind the guides we had on TH-cam after beta. Miss the old TH-cam usefully guides so much
thank you so much for this. I have been playing the game for four years on and off and i always considered fame credits to be the only efficient option to level things up. Now I'm excited to level up new Weapons in the mist.
this is the second video i found of yours now. loved both. earned a sub for how actually informative it is compared to other creators that give "informative" videos.
Returning player here after a 3 year break, let me tell you sir, you just saved me from big trouble. Straight to the point and that table is great , thanks a lot!
BROOO, thank you so much. This was video was perferct. Straight to the point, short and precise, and you actually ran the numbers and tested it as well. This was so much better than those 20 minute long videos that just go solo static in a 50 mil set xD
This is how you get subscribers exactly and straight to the point. It is rare to see it these days. Keep it up you just caught me in an instant as subscriber.
I wanted to add a little to the fame farming: When the 5 days of premium started, I immediately popped up a cake and went into T7-T8 black zones with the Ava road at Brecilien. There was a lot of downtime (because the mists have about 30%-ish reduced fame compared to open world mobs) but the silver drops didn't change (compared also at a open world T6 normal mob in BZ) So, during this period, every normal kill ranged about 11k-13k in fame and well, about 1.8k and 2.3k in silver raw drops. I managed to spec up nature in practically 4 hours from 10 to 100, and used the fame credits to only level up offhands (since their fame/credits ratio is goddamn high) Another thing that I noticed is that you recieve half of fame credits for a piece of equipment if it isn't also specced up (you have mastery maxed up, but not the specialization maxed), and that is a small, but still noticeable fame loss if you're using a PVE set while auto-respec is off. So yeah, mists and abbey are the most accesible way, but I haven't tried farming the ava roads (and I don't think I'll be around to test it, the downtime for the pathfinder mobs is crazy af)
the new roads mobs help a ton, they average 50k fame and if you find a decent map, there can be loads of them, definitely competitive for fame nowadays
Ive been playing this game since Beta 2, and have always had a visualization of these algos in my head but could never put it into words- this is definitely the first visual and vocal explanation that got across to me lol! You should definitely be a professor
Great video. This was exactly what i was looking for. I want to level up dagger pair, but every guide said to use different spec to level it.... Thanks :)
I LOVE YOUR VIDS BRO! u impressed me with the vid on skipping dungeon when i first time finding ways to improve the speed of my clearing speed. great work bro!
I did the numbers about the Fame credits and the fame earned, and what i learn was always using a 100 Armor and the rest items you need to level up, using the respect on it will not be too much expensive and have and approach close to using a full 100 set with respect on
I really like that someone is actually making videos about this, I did this about 4 months ago when I started playing although not very in depth but I managed to find out that ava roads with a not fully specd weapon was way more efficient than a fully spec'd weapon but the only thing with that was the old ava road mobs were superbly hard to kill depending on the weapon of choice and it was faster just to farm them with my shadowcaller but after the new update beyond the veil I feel like almost any weapon with high enough ip can farm them
the way you explaiend was easy to follow, the video in the background wasn't ditracting and the video also was very clean and made very good. keep goind like that
I mean, some people called it silly guide, but that's because they enjoy messing around in with SC or they play curse. But you lots of people = lots of opinions!
@@ButterscotchTheButty I think everyone like me just think about the benefits to maxing pve set, about future progress. But I don't realize In that process I make the game not fun to play. I should from the start pick the weapon that I like to play and have fun, and play it until I don't realize it's already maxed. Should not ever overthinking something and just let it flow, eventually I would get to the place that I want to.
My argument is that silver becomes mostly useless late game. You say that regular fame farming levels the entire set, but for me I spend 2 hours in a blue zone static to level a weapon from 1 to 100 spec for the cost of 17 million silver, 1 hour to level an armor from 1 to 100 for 8.5, 30 minutes and 4.25 million for the helmet, same for the boots, and only 300k silver and a few pulls for the offhand. In total I spend about 4 hours and 34 million silver to have 100 spec in a full set of gear. The fastest I see people fame farm in black zone, roads, etc with fame farm builds is 9-12 hours to reach 100 mastery, not even spec. In that time frame most of them reach around level 72-75 spec at the most. 1-75 is around 15 million fame. 75 to 100 is 18.5 million. So people can grind with a crappy weapon for 18-24 hours to do what I can in 4. Of course for NEW players who don't have 34 million silver to blow at best can farm 1m per hour so it'd take them 38 hours, but anyone who has been playing for at least 3 months should have the passive incomes and silver hoard to to make this happen. If a maxed chef makes 2.5 to 5m silver in 15 minutes of work per day that means it takes 7-14 days of 15 minutes per day to reach that silver, or 1 hour 40 minutes to 3 hours 20 minutes, add the 4 hours of static dungeon grinding, at most 7 hours 20 minutes to get the same results as someone doing the manual grind for 18-24. One could argue the silver gained from manually leveling would help but new players would just die hundreds of times and have to constantly bank the second they get a good chest. While it'd make sense if you only ever wanted to play one single build the entire lifespan of the game, I feel like everyone who wants to play this long term should first level a PvE set because new weapon lines are always coming out and being able to spend less time fame farming means more time having fun and doing other things. While people are gonna sit down for MONTHS to level the new shapeshifter weapons I spent 14 hours farming the combat fame credits so I can immediately 1 to 100 them the first day. One could argue that dying over and over in the mists is cheaper than blowing it on auto respec, satchel, etc but I'd rather give my silver to the SYSTEM rather than have it taken by another player. If you ask most people if they'd rather lose $100 by having it burned or having someone rob them, almost everyone will say they'd rather have it burned. I also feel like weapons like hammer, or staff of balance, should be leveled by the guild these players serve, and not something they should have the burden of leveling themselves. Finally, I feel like cursed staffs in general are one of the best "good at everything" weapon lines so no one really loses by leveling them up. Kind of like a "fame farming dividend" of sorts. Weapons like hammer or staff of balance don't really have multi-purpose uses so only players doing group content would really find a use for it.
First, your numbers (1-100 for 17 million silver) somehow imply you were not using a satchel. And you either were using it, therefore your method flies up to exorbitant cost or you are not able to "level a weapon in 4 hours in a safezone static". One or another please, stop spreading misinformation. If you are using a satchel on a set that's already fully 100/100 you might as well use tomes and not even need those "2 hours to level up a weapon, 1 to level up armor, 1 to level up boots+helm", that would be cheaper and that would save you the cost of leveling a pve set. If you are not using a satchel, you're going up to the same amount of time spent as a black zone farmer (which is around 8h for a full set, in your case you're leveling it separately) except you're losing silver to auto-respec while a BZ farmer is at worst losing a couple sets to gankers while getting all the BZ rewards.
@@John_Doe13 Don't bother with this guy he's not all there upstairs in the popcorn room. Even with an 8.4 Satchel 115% + Ava 15% + Conq 10% + Premium 50% + Faction 10% you'd have to be farming T4 static only when it's fully enchanted to get even remotely close to this guy's made up numbers. Even then you wouldn't be able to do it with 0 specs because you'd legit die 1 v 1 to the enchanted mobs, lol. This dude also 1000% does not have access to the Ava 15% or Conq 10% buffs because he's a fucking Yellow Zone rat, lmfao. You have to actually play in the Black Zone to get those buffs. The only way that this rat could get either of those buffs is if he pays a massive fortune for it because he's deathly afraid of stepping into anything that's not a Blue or Yellow Zone. That, and because everyone in the game knows he's a damned rat and will drop him the instant that they can for the lulz. Which means that he won't ever be able to complete an Ava for the 15%, and can't even pay a guild to let him siphon points to reach the 10% buff.
You compare your effecient PvE set to newbie, who has nothing on them. I don't think, a new player can just go grab 8.4 PvE set and start grinding statics with it. He requires max spec on the set (to have credits), the set it self, and silver which is around 100m + tons of time invested before hand. I did show, that i achieved 13m fame(6.5credits) on a 1200IP set per hour which is pretty similar result to blue statics, but still painful to the wallet. As for experienced users, I believe usually such player already got plenty of credit points/tomes of insight stored they can spend to insta max gear they want. Guild leveling does do the job better, no argue there. But this is just an example to demonstrate, what one can achieve on horrible PvE options. If person enjoyes cursed, no problem, they can use it right away, which is good, since they will have both good PvE and PvP option!
Meaby for someone who is new to the game, it is better to max out your set that you want to get first. But in the long run pve set will be better. Once u maxed the pve build (which your doing once) u'll be clearing mobs faster = more $$ and maxed pve set with other maxed items from the same category will give u even more fame credits. long run - pve set / but for begginer meaby his first or second set should be gained normally, not with respec
What i said for pve set, maxing it for fame alone is a bad idea, pve set is like gathering, you level it to get an edge at making money while pveing and credits come next, unless you go for respec, but then you need to now money for that. The main thing is - we should enjoy the game, not turn it into second job, so if one wants to pvp, pve or anything, just get set for that, level it a little and do your stuff! :)
The only caveat i encounter, is that in BZ Mists i seem to be a gank magnet with a huge „please kill me“ sign above my head. Everytime i encounter another player in BZ Mist, i just die…
Roads are the best fame farming spot. Even better if you have a single target weapon. Roam trough the small coridors, kill solo avalonian mobs, avoid drones and do green chests if they are up(risky and not needed for fame).
Hmm i see, but here me out: if u spec up a pve build ur gonna get way more overall benefits than a pvp weapon, ofcourse unless u dislike pve which i sort of do, but i do group fame farms with my guild as carving which is my fav weapon rn so doesnt change much for me
The video is for people whos looking for guide on how to fame farm pvp weapons. He just showed the difference between using a pve weapon and use the fame creds. to spec up pvp weapons, to just fame farming pvp weapons through pve methods. So this video changes a lot to those people
It is mostly for those, who don't have super effecient PvE build or a lot of money to sustain that. So, if one wants to have fun in content they found enjoyable, it is better for them to start playing their build right away!
now my question is , if you have all your clothing lvl 100 and only your weapon is the one that has no spec , would that makes your weapon receives more fame or it would receive the same amount of fame as if your clothes had no fame ?
Maxing the Spec of the weapon is like 23m fame more or less. So if you can farm 2.3million fame per hour, you'd be max spec in 10 hours. 2.3m is only possible in not so peak hours though like early in the morning or after maintenance. Also, fame books from chests helps speed up the process. And if u have some (alot) of extra silver, auto-respec works like a charm. I got 700/700 on swords, leather armor, cloth helm and boots in just 2 weeks xD
Good video but : You can resell your PVE investment later and some build allow you to do alone some contents that give you a lot of fames. and for shadowcaller since you take it as an example, it can also be used for HCE later, so it's not a waste for everyone =)
That's why i mentioned "they're not great for pve alone" if you're not looking for silver. PvE builds are like gathering profession. You get silver primarily and fame secondary. It also works if you need one or few set pieces.
Sure fame farming in mists aint bad but could you please further elaborate how to max out a weapon in a single day that way? Because I am none stop doing mists right now and am surely no where close maxing out a weapon in a single day unless by a day you mean 24h of play time? From my experience a lot of potential efficiency gets lost because of bad mist layouts and other players keeping you away from camps and chests.
Lots of efficiency comes from constant mob grinding, it doesn't have to be camp specifically as for people. I didn't have much problems. Usually, in an hour, it is that one 8.3 double bladed tryhard, but if you got a mobility swap (i use dbs stunrun technique), this guy aint got nothing to u. (In avg you get ~1m per 18 min. of abbey. But it takes like 10 minutes to find an abbey, which is not that good at the end. (~2.4-2.7 if you grind everything vs ~2m if you look for abbey alone)
Hey butty, I don’t fully understand the table. What does the 3.5 in mage robe / head bonus cell mean exactly? Confused since mage robe is not a head piece. Rest of the video was really clear and informative, and I love your content! Thanks.
unfortunately i don't know english. i have 700 spec in cursed staff. i want to upgrade leather jacket for 8 second defense times. this will give me an advantage in 1 vs 1. how can i do this quickly now? does nature staff give more fame because it clears faster? Help please.
Great video!!! It's very helpful but I have a question, Is The mist the best place to get the most fame for solo fame farming or is there a better place?
Ava roads can give even more fame, the problem is that you're limited to a veery small pool of weapon choices, so if you got extra silver for autorespec, you can hit maxed weapons in record speed.
Great to see this as its precisely my approach to fame farming, although I never did the math to know its better than a dedicated pve setup, I just couldn't be bothered to spec up a weapon for pve which I ultimately wouldn't use for pvp. By only equipping the gear I want to actually level, I've almost maxed out all armour other than plate chests (which I've not touched, seems like so few viable pvp options I'm interested in that use it). Only slight change I make is I tend to fame farm in either t6 red zones (better than t7 in my exp) with faction flag (to complete faction chests), black zone t6 or t8 zones (to complete conq chests/season progression) or mists (farming the new ish upgraded mobs). Only ever go to mists for pvp, but fame numbers look very similar to t6/t8 BZ.
Hey, im kinda new at this game and i mostly like pvp. I do like pve like dungeons but still, the content i know i will have the most fun with are the mists. For a new player would you recomend to just go to T6 RZ faction flagged and kill mobs till lvl 120? I like dual swords (and daggers) and fortunately those are not bad at open world pve, but Im struggling on how to start preparing for pvp, ofc i know i need fame but is it worth to fame farm without premium? Or should i focus on getting premium first and then start grinding fame? Or should i just make a new char and use the 3day premium to fame farm as much as i can? Also is pvp your silver source? Or do you have a safer way to afford going pvp? Srry to bother you with all these questions but i felt pretty related with your comment, like you are in a spot where i would like to be, just enjoying pvp on the mists 😅
@@sagansagan5395 hey, I've never fame farmed without premium, you can do it, but will obviously be slower. If you head to T6 RZ in a 4.1 set, you'll spend around 100k tops on your set, but you'll make around 300k/hour in silver drops from the mobs by just chain killing then. Also ensures you've always got enough for a fresh set if you get ganked (which is rare, I can farm for hours without issue, just ensure you're within your mount circle). Ensure the faction zone you're in gives you a fame buff + faction flag ofc. Fame farming isn't really about earning silver though, for that I personally head into mists/deep BZ and gather (level up your gathering in blue/yellow then head to mists as soon as you hit T6 tools imo)
Great video and helped a lot 😊 Selling my 20m worth solo static gears right away. However, What do you think about farming in tier 8 black zones instead? I've never analyzed and compared open world (tier8) with mist (including lucky abbey encouters) but I just feel open world are better options as long as you are guaranteed to go into abbey frequently. I want to know your opinion becuz it seems like you have solid thoghts about the game.
I believe OW can be better, if you find nice zones filled with mini-bosses or bosses. I don't like OW cause you need to roam a lot and then forced to tp back (silver cost) while mist/abbeys can be done straight from city.
hi love the vid i thin k you got lost in math or is it just me, ff with weapon you get 100 % and 60 % more if u have full spec cloths no ? love the vids man just trying to understand since im new to the game
If you got one of these weapons already maxed, it may be ok and even better with credits, but if you're looking for playing your build right away, you can just take your build and level, this way you will also get used to abilities.
2 millions fame by hour means 33 000 fame per minute. It means 6 mobs (5k xp in the mists with a (maybe) non pve weapon). I don't understand how you achieve this.
I feel like you're missing some things here. 1. PVE farming should also net you a return on silver so it would offset what you spend on the conversion with Auto respec. 2. you're testing with 1200 IP which is either high spec or high tier weapon with no spec. Not really a fair comparison since it's a safe bet people will be starting from zero and not running around with tier 8 weapons. 3. I highly doubt you could count healers or tank specs here since their ability to kill efficiently is terrible and generally require a group to fame farm if you're not using fame credits.
1. Most of the time, it's only a tiny bit in comparison of what respec consumes. On other hand doing PvE on weapon you want to play also grants you money and you can even PvP with it! 2. True, 1200 IP can be an issue, but every weapon scales the same, so if we go lower tiers, we'd get exactly the same % less dmg (so should be around the same % less fame) (but i'm not sure on that topic) 3. I did the tank specs, and yes, if one wants to use heavy plate in pve and achieve good farming rate, they'd need to have 500 more ip on a weapon! in comparison to mage robe (that's insane, it is like 6.0 -> 6.4 MP )
if you use specific build, not every weapon is capable of grinding roads, it is kind of a chore, but, if you level something like nature staff, then sure!
@@ButterscotchTheButtyi now used 1h mace with same armor and rest of build as you had but still without using Lp or anything i just started farming open world mobs it was boring but i did it for sake of lvls but still after 40 mins i was only able to reach 1h mace from lvl 28 to 31 pls help me😢
This chart shows how much extra IP you would need on weapon, to hit the same result. So, in heavy plate to have the same damage as full cloth, you'd need extra 500 IP (which is a lot and prob not worth :( )
Thanks for the video, its very informative. How do you calculate fame per hour? I use albion statistics tool and can barely reach 2.5m with fully leveled up cloth pieces.
I believe it tracks your log, and calculates how much fame you get in total. Normal fame and combat fame is displayed separately. Il take a closer look next time. @@ButterscotchTheButty
The tool tracks correctly in my opinion, but still I cant reach fame per hour higher than 2.5-3m(heron spear + cloth build), and if we take in account dying it goes even lower.~2m normal fame + 400-500combat, tested mostly in common mists, since its easier to find them.@@ButterscotchTheButty
@@ButterscotchTheButty its not necessarily the items i use (although I do use your sets from specific videos, mists and abby one for example) but more to do with my game knowledge. Your PVE guides helped me out alot, especially with soloing group dungeons. I've also changed the way I fame up my sets thanks to this video.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00:23 *🔄 Fame farming methods like PvE builds are popular for leveling weapons, but this approach might be inefficient if not using the gear in the future.*
00:01:23 *💰 Using PvE builds to level weapons can require significant silver costs, up to 30 million, which may not be worthwhile if the build isn't used further.*
00:02:18 *🏹 Experimentation with different weapons, such as dagger pairs, shows varied Fame per hour rates compared to top options like Nature and Spiked Gauntlets.*
00:03:13 *📈 Fame from PvE weapons contributes to both weapon and armor pieces, with receiving credit points affected by gear level and respec settings.*
00:03:45 *⚔️ Using zones like the Mists effectively requires killing all evolved mobs and considering dungeons like the Abbey for efficient Fame farming.*
00:04:42 *🧵 Using different armor types affects damage output, and equivalent gear adjustments may require additional weapon IP for consistent farming speed.*
05:17 *🚫 Focus on specific builds instead of unnecessary PvE setups if not planning their future use; this enhances Fame farming efficiency and saves silver.*
Made with HARPA AI
Dude, finally, slmeone who went really in depth to explain to us in a clear manner regarding fame farming
The only problem is, will one be as effecient with less experience ?
@@ButterscotchTheButty most probably not, but, because of your guide, they will at least be more efficient than the ones just killing random mobs for fame.
@@ButterscotchTheButty plus, this might be embarrassing to say, even though I have hundreds of hours in this game, I still didn't really understood how to efficiently fame Farm, and I've watched a ton of guides, and yours is the only one I truly understood. Kudos to you man.
@@poru6482 the funny story is I actually just killed all mobs i saw myself, ha-ha. Mists may not be the most efficient, but it is definitely the most accesible option.
@@ButterscotchTheButty oh, I see, hahaha lol. Anyways, still a very informative video, looking forward for more videos from you, keep up the great work, man!
The editing and structuring of this video is Hollywood level. No idea how you don't have more subs at this point, this is incredible!
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You are an absolute monster. I can't even put in words how well made the video is, and how far ahead of te competition you are for not going for clickbait methods and actually teaching something useful. Made me remind the guides we had on TH-cam after beta. Miss the old TH-cam usefully guides so much
If only I played more of this game... (also, missed the comment :( )
thank you so much for this. I have been playing the game for four years on and off and i always considered fame credits to be the only efficient option to level things up. Now I'm excited to level up new Weapons in the mist.
Armor and lower is more efficient to level with credits, still. (but you can still level them with a weapon at the same time :) )
this is the second video i found of yours now. loved both. earned a sub for how actually informative it is compared to other creators that give "informative" videos.
glad you enjoy it, sadly, i can't pop much videos lately :(
Returning player here after a 3 year break, let me tell you sir, you just saved me from big trouble. Straight to the point and that table is great , thanks a lot!
BROOO, thank you so much. This was video was perferct. Straight to the point, short and precise, and you actually ran the numbers and tested it as well. This was so much better than those 20 minute long videos that just go solo static in a 50 mil set xD
Glad it helps!
This is how you get subscribers exactly and straight to the point.
It is rare to see it these days.
Keep it up you just caught me in an instant as subscriber.
if only one to play albion lately 💀
I wanted to add a little to the fame farming:
When the 5 days of premium started, I immediately popped up a cake and went into T7-T8 black zones with the Ava road at Brecilien. There was a lot of downtime (because the mists have about 30%-ish reduced fame compared to open world mobs) but the silver drops didn't change (compared also at a open world T6 normal mob in BZ)
So, during this period, every normal kill ranged about 11k-13k in fame and well, about 1.8k and 2.3k in silver raw drops. I managed to spec up nature in practically 4 hours from 10 to 100, and used the fame credits to only level up offhands (since their fame/credits ratio is goddamn high)
Another thing that I noticed is that you recieve half of fame credits for a piece of equipment if it isn't also specced up (you have mastery maxed up, but not the specialization maxed), and that is a small, but still noticeable fame loss if you're using a PVE set while auto-respec is off.
So yeah, mists and abbey are the most accesible way, but I haven't tried farming the ava roads (and I don't think I'll be around to test it, the downtime for the pathfinder mobs is crazy af)
For ava roads my strategy would be to do the chest(chests) and then do OW while they respawn (15-45 min).
@@ButterscotchTheButtyWhat OW?
@@carlo-fj2kl open world
the new roads mobs help a ton, they average 50k fame and if you find a decent map, there can be loads of them, definitely competitive for fame nowadays
Ive been playing this game since Beta 2, and have always had a visualization of these algos in my head but could never put it into words- this is definitely the first visual and vocal explanation that got across to me lol! You should definitely be a professor
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Great video. This was exactly what i was looking for. I want to level up dagger pair, but every guide said to use different spec to level it.... Thanks :)
Damn. You have the best vid quality i havent seen before. Great vid. And the music... on point.
glad you enjoy it, hopefully, will come up with something fun and useful!
Bro, your videos are really great. This is the most thorough study of fame!
As long as it helps you, i'm fine!
Hope your channel will grow more and more! Very helpful! Thank!
I'm glad as long as it works for people, otherwise I'd be dissapointed :D
Great Video m8, just what I needed, hope to see more content like this in the future
The real cost of leveling up polehammer is psychological haha. But yeah, great video
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That’s pretty much what I expected, thank you for doing the legwork to confirm.
I really like the structure of your videos and the tone of your voice.
Thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoy it :)
thanks for the guide! now every other youtuber who make guides are gonna be mad i bet cus u told their secrets! thankyou!
I mean, VERY strong FF method (like non-stop ava chests, if you can pull it out) can still outpace FFing bad weapon in 4.0 set.
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You did a good job, amazing video, thanks man,
Good luck on the Albion world 💪
We all need it time to time
I LOVE YOUR VIDS BRO!
u impressed me with the vid on skipping dungeon when i first time finding ways to improve the speed of my clearing speed. great work bro!
Glad it works for you!
My Man, for using music from Gothic You just gained my eternal respect
Game of the childhood, how can one not to use great OST that fits almost anywhere?
@@ButterscotchTheButty great choice ;)
I did the numbers about the Fame credits and the fame earned, and what i learn was always using a 100 Armor and the rest items you need to level up, using the respect on it will not be too much expensive and have and approach close to using a full 100 set with respect on
Ye, it works!
I really like that someone is actually making videos about this, I did this about 4 months ago when I started playing although not very in depth but I managed to find out that ava roads with a not fully specd weapon was way more efficient than a fully spec'd weapon but the only thing with that was the old ava road mobs were superbly hard to kill depending on the weapon of choice and it was faster just to farm them with my shadowcaller but after the new update beyond the veil I feel like almost any weapon with high enough ip can farm them
PvE weapon with respec will be faster, but there is no money in avas rn 💀
@@ButterscotchTheButty Yep
holy moly, straight to the point with gothic music? Awesome, dude!
Gothic music? Seriously? Wow
Amazing insight ! as usual spot on content! thank you man for what you do!
Hopefully, i'll be able to find more stuff to talk about, well, just gotta wait for next update.
the way you explaiend was easy to follow, the video in the background wasn't ditracting and the video also was very clean and made very good.
keep goind like that
I'd like to know if you manage to achieve good results!
@@ButterscotchTheButty sounds good, I'll try it and tell you
This is the best guide ever about fame farming. I regret leveling up my shadow caller pve set. you just open my eyes.
I mean, some people called it silly guide, but that's because they enjoy messing around in with SC or they play curse. But you lots of people = lots of opinions!
@@ButterscotchTheButty I think everyone like me just think about the benefits to maxing pve set, about future progress. But I don't realize In that process I make the game not fun to play.
I should from the start pick the weapon that I like to play and have fun, and play it until I don't realize it's already maxed.
Should not ever overthinking something and just let it flow, eventually I would get to the place that I want to.
@@andisea4006 i mean this should be the general though = we play games for fun, not to grind. (grinding may be fun, if one finds it fun)
My argument is that silver becomes mostly useless late game. You say that regular fame farming levels the entire set, but for me I spend 2 hours in a blue zone static to level a weapon from 1 to 100 spec for the cost of 17 million silver, 1 hour to level an armor from 1 to 100 for 8.5, 30 minutes and 4.25 million for the helmet, same for the boots, and only 300k silver and a few pulls for the offhand. In total I spend about 4 hours and 34 million silver to have 100 spec in a full set of gear.
The fastest I see people fame farm in black zone, roads, etc with fame farm builds is 9-12 hours to reach 100 mastery, not even spec. In that time frame most of them reach around level 72-75 spec at the most. 1-75 is around 15 million fame. 75 to 100 is 18.5 million. So people can grind with a crappy weapon for 18-24 hours to do what I can in 4. Of course for NEW players who don't have 34 million silver to blow at best can farm 1m per hour so it'd take them 38 hours, but anyone who has been playing for at least 3 months should have the passive incomes and silver hoard to to make this happen.
If a maxed chef makes 2.5 to 5m silver in 15 minutes of work per day that means it takes 7-14 days of 15 minutes per day to reach that silver, or 1 hour 40 minutes to 3 hours 20 minutes, add the 4 hours of static dungeon grinding, at most 7 hours 20 minutes to get the same results as someone doing the manual grind for 18-24. One could argue the silver gained from manually leveling would help but new players would just die hundreds of times and have to constantly bank the second they get a good chest.
While it'd make sense if you only ever wanted to play one single build the entire lifespan of the game, I feel like everyone who wants to play this long term should first level a PvE set because new weapon lines are always coming out and being able to spend less time fame farming means more time having fun and doing other things. While people are gonna sit down for MONTHS to level the new shapeshifter weapons I spent 14 hours farming the combat fame credits so I can immediately 1 to 100 them the first day.
One could argue that dying over and over in the mists is cheaper than blowing it on auto respec, satchel, etc but I'd rather give my silver to the SYSTEM rather than have it taken by another player. If you ask most people if they'd rather lose $100 by having it burned or having someone rob them, almost everyone will say they'd rather have it burned. I also feel like weapons like hammer, or staff of balance, should be leveled by the guild these players serve, and not something they should have the burden of leveling themselves.
Finally, I feel like cursed staffs in general are one of the best "good at everything" weapon lines so no one really loses by leveling them up. Kind of like a "fame farming dividend" of sorts. Weapons like hammer or staff of balance don't really have multi-purpose uses so only players doing group content would really find a use for it.
First, your numbers (1-100 for 17 million silver) somehow imply you were not using a satchel. And you either were using it, therefore your method flies up to exorbitant cost or you are not able to "level a weapon in 4 hours in a safezone static". One or another please, stop spreading misinformation.
If you are using a satchel on a set that's already fully 100/100 you might as well use tomes and not even need those "2 hours to level up a weapon, 1 to level up armor, 1 to level up boots+helm", that would be cheaper and that would save you the cost of leveling a pve set.
If you are not using a satchel, you're going up to the same amount of time spent as a black zone farmer (which is around 8h for a full set, in your case you're leveling it separately) except you're losing silver to auto-respec while a BZ farmer is at worst losing a couple sets to gankers while getting all the BZ rewards.
@@John_Doe13 Don't bother with this guy he's not all there upstairs in the popcorn room. Even with an 8.4 Satchel 115% + Ava 15% + Conq 10% + Premium 50% + Faction 10% you'd have to be farming T4 static only when it's fully enchanted to get even remotely close to this guy's made up numbers. Even then you wouldn't be able to do it with 0 specs because you'd legit die 1 v 1 to the enchanted mobs, lol.
This dude also 1000% does not have access to the Ava 15% or Conq 10% buffs because he's a fucking Yellow Zone rat, lmfao. You have to actually play in the Black Zone to get those buffs. The only way that this rat could get either of those buffs is if he pays a massive fortune for it because he's deathly afraid of stepping into anything that's not a Blue or Yellow Zone. That, and because everyone in the game knows he's a damned rat and will drop him the instant that they can for the lulz. Which means that he won't ever be able to complete an Ava for the 15%, and can't even pay a guild to let him siphon points to reach the 10% buff.
You compare your effecient PvE set to newbie, who has nothing on them. I don't think, a new player can just go grab 8.4 PvE set and start grinding statics with it. He requires max spec on the set (to have credits), the set it self, and silver which is around 100m + tons of time invested before hand. I did show, that i achieved 13m fame(6.5credits) on a 1200IP set per hour which is pretty similar result to blue statics, but still painful to the wallet. As for experienced users, I believe usually such player already got plenty of credit points/tomes of insight stored they can spend to insta max gear they want.
Guild leveling does do the job better, no argue there. But this is just an example to demonstrate, what one can achieve on horrible PvE options.
If person enjoyes cursed, no problem, they can use it right away, which is good, since they will have both good PvE and PvP option!
@@ButterscotchTheButty👍
If silver becomes useless late game give 1b to me so I can grow stronger faster dude
Wow, such a beautiful accent! I can understand a lot of without subtitles
Bro, you doing great content, good luck
Thanks a lot, i'll see what else i can do as a video :)
The quality of your videos is outstanding, great job
Thank you!
Still my favourite TH-camr
Can someone TLDR me cuz my adhd was bugging me all the way and i couldnt even listen a damn second of this guy...
Meaby for someone who is new to the game, it is better to max out your set that you want to get first. But in the long run pve set will be better. Once u maxed the pve build (which your doing once) u'll be clearing mobs faster = more $$ and maxed pve set with other maxed items from the same category will give u even more fame credits. long run - pve set / but for begginer meaby his first or second set should be gained normally, not with respec
What i said for pve set, maxing it for fame alone is a bad idea, pve set is like gathering, you level it to get an edge at making money while pveing and credits come next, unless you go for respec, but then you need to now money for that.
The main thing is - we should enjoy the game, not turn it into second job, so if one wants to pvp, pve or anything, just get set for that, level it a little and do your stuff! :)
Wow, Sound from Gothic 1, Respect)
The only caveat i encounter, is that in BZ Mists i seem to be a gank magnet with a huge „please kill me“ sign above my head. Everytime i encounter another player in BZ Mist, i just die…
It only comes with practice
Excellent guide and the explanation. Good job
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
very helpful video. Thank you for making it
Glad you enjoyed :)
Roads are the best fame farming spot. Even better if you have a single target weapon. Roam trough the small coridors, kill solo avalonian mobs, avoid drones and do green chests if they are up(risky and not needed for fame).
Sounds solid, but way too inconsistent, i'd like some values on that topic in 1200 IP :)
Delivering as always.
gothic music caught my heart, btw super guide ,do what you do!
Get ready for people to deny math and keep saying fame credits are 100% efficiency lmao good video
fame credits are more efficient, if you have a lot of money, otherwise, i'd just go pve in the set i want to level.
OST from Gothic on your videos always surprises me
Why is that ? :D
This is why ive resorted to faction warfare fame tomes as my main source of fame and use mobs as a bonus.
Ye, can be good, didn't test it, thou, one day will check it out!
Nice work! I will subscribe
Glad you enjoy it :)
I did not expect to hear Gothic soundtrack in Albion related video xD
Sometimes rare enjoyable moments happen!
This Vídeo is a MasterPiece. I LOVED IT!!
As long as it helps with your faming!
Really nice guide with a good breakdown
Im subscribing today. Best guide youtuber.❤❤❤
Hmm i see, but here me out: if u spec up a pve build ur gonna get way more overall benefits than a pvp weapon, ofcourse unless u dislike pve which i sort of do, but i do group fame farms with my guild as carving which is my fav weapon rn so doesnt change much for me
The video is for people whos looking for guide on how to fame farm pvp weapons. He just showed the difference between using a pve weapon and use the fame creds. to spec up pvp weapons, to just fame farming pvp weapons through pve methods. So this video changes a lot to those people
It is mostly for those, who don't have super effecient PvE build or a lot of money to sustain that. So, if one wants to have fun in content they found enjoyable, it is better for them to start playing their build right away!
now my question is , if you have all your clothing lvl 100 and only your weapon is the one that has no spec , would that makes your weapon receives more fame or it would receive the same amount of fame as if your clothes had no fame ?
dude its impressive. What else can i say.... thanks alot
Maxing the Spec of the weapon is like 23m fame more or less. So if you can farm 2.3million fame per hour, you'd be max spec in 10 hours. 2.3m is only possible in not so peak hours though like early in the morning or after maintenance. Also, fame books from chests helps speed up the process. And if u have some (alot) of extra silver, auto-respec works like a charm. I got 700/700 on swords, leather armor, cloth helm and boots in just 2 weeks xD
Good video but :
You can resell your PVE investment later and some build allow you to do alone some contents that give you a lot of fames. and for shadowcaller since you take it as an example, it can also be used for HCE later, so it's not a waste for everyone =)
That's why i mentioned "they're not great for pve alone" if you're not looking for silver. PvE builds are like gathering profession. You get silver primarily and fame secondary. It also works if you need one or few set pieces.
This is high quality video. QUALITY
Clear explanation as always!
Whenever I post something I always think something is will not be 100% clear, guess I'm wrong. 😄
Love the gothic music on the background
For Innos!
Top tier Albion Online Guides Content.
Thanks butty! Lots of things to learn
As long as things work out for you, it is great!
Man, I love your videos
Thank you for watching, hope we find even more topics to talk about!
subbed 100%, good quality vid
Hopefully i'll continue do fun stuff
using PVE build has more advantage on silver / hour , if you prefer silver i suggest use PVE spec for faster clearing + silver
That's correct, that's why i mentioned that if your goal is only fame, then PvE sets are not that great.
@@ButterscotchTheButty yeah i just share my point of view from someone who played mist with pvp and pve , and i see the difference
@@kaze3766 If one plays the game long enough, they definitely should try all the game offers! PvE setups is one of them.
best video about fame i ever seen
I thought you don’t get any fame credits until the base tree is level 100, and then you get more when you reach 100 of each weapon
ye, you don't get any, if your set is completely fresh, but this is the moment, when you get the most fame on your set!
Sure fame farming in mists aint bad but could you please further elaborate how to max out a weapon in a single day that way? Because I am none stop doing mists right now and am surely no where close maxing out a weapon in a single day unless by a day you mean 24h of play time? From my experience a lot of potential efficiency gets lost because of bad mist layouts and other players keeping you away from camps and chests.
Lots of efficiency comes from constant mob grinding, it doesn't have to be camp specifically as for people. I didn't have much problems. Usually, in an hour, it is that one 8.3 double bladed tryhard, but if you got a mobility swap (i use dbs stunrun technique), this guy aint got nothing to u. (In avg you get ~1m per 18 min. of abbey. But it takes like 10 minutes to find an abbey, which is not that good at the end. (~2.4-2.7 if you grind everything vs ~2m if you look for abbey alone)
This was great content, I enjoyed the numbers and would love to have an explanation on how you got the game percentage stats.
i just did myself like 80% as credits vs 100% + 40% is = 75% differenc. Please specify, thanks!
Thank you I believe it was the percentages from 1:44.
Get you a shadow caller build to solo statics, and turn auto respec off, thats what i do
As long as it works for you :)
Omg i have goosebumps when i hear music from Gothic
:)
Hey butty, I don’t fully understand the table. What does the 3.5 in mage robe / head bonus cell mean exactly? Confused since mage robe is not a head piece. Rest of the video was really clear and informative, and I love your content! Thanks.
head and boots bonus is what passive you should have on cloth helmet/boots (which is +3.5% dmg)
ty for ur work, as always !
Thanks for the useful info butty
Btw patreon/discord when?
unfortunately i don't know english. i have 700 spec in cursed staff. i want to upgrade leather jacket for 8 second defense times. this will give me an advantage in 1 vs 1. how can i do this quickly now? does nature staff give more fame because it clears faster? Help please.
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There are quite a few good content makers I enjoy too, so, maybe not the best :)
Great video!!! It's very helpful but I have a question, Is The mist the best place to get the most fame for solo fame farming or is there a better place?
Ava roads can give even more fame, the problem is that you're limited to a veery small pool of weapon choices, so if you got extra silver for autorespec, you can hit maxed weapons in record speed.
Great to see this as its precisely my approach to fame farming, although I never did the math to know its better than a dedicated pve setup, I just couldn't be bothered to spec up a weapon for pve which I ultimately wouldn't use for pvp. By only equipping the gear I want to actually level, I've almost maxed out all armour other than plate chests (which I've not touched, seems like so few viable pvp options I'm interested in that use it). Only slight change I make is I tend to fame farm in either t6 red zones (better than t7 in my exp) with faction flag (to complete faction chests), black zone t6 or t8 zones (to complete conq chests/season progression) or mists (farming the new ish upgraded mobs). Only ever go to mists for pvp, but fame numbers look very similar to t6/t8 BZ.
Hey, im kinda new at this game and i mostly like pvp. I do like pve like dungeons but still, the content i know i will have the most fun with are the mists. For a new player would you recomend to just go to T6 RZ faction flagged and kill mobs till lvl 120? I like dual swords (and daggers) and fortunately those are not bad at open world pve, but Im struggling on how to start preparing for pvp, ofc i know i need fame but is it worth to fame farm without premium? Or should i focus on getting premium first and then start grinding fame? Or should i just make a new char and use the 3day premium to fame farm as much as i can? Also is pvp your silver source? Or do you have a safer way to afford going pvp?
Srry to bother you with all these questions but i felt pretty related with your comment, like you are in a spot where i would like to be, just enjoying pvp on the mists 😅
@@sagansagan5395 hey, I've never fame farmed without premium, you can do it, but will obviously be slower. If you head to T6 RZ in a 4.1 set, you'll spend around 100k tops on your set, but you'll make around 300k/hour in silver drops from the mobs by just chain killing then. Also ensures you've always got enough for a fresh set if you get ganked (which is rare, I can farm for hours without issue, just ensure you're within your mount circle). Ensure the faction zone you're in gives you a fame buff + faction flag ofc. Fame farming isn't really about earning silver though, for that I personally head into mists/deep BZ and gather (level up your gathering in blue/yellow then head to mists as soon as you hit T6 tools imo)
Bro, Im playing albion for 1 year, i was looking dor that video wntire time
well, it's a little bit outdated now, prob, with shapeshifts
@@ButterscotchTheButty naaah, still true
Bro now I feel dumb for not doing the math, I used to FF with nature everytime I specup my armors
Armor wise it is much better, than doing the weapon leveling, since every credit is 2 times more fame for armor, than weapon!
Great video and helped a lot 😊 Selling my 20m worth solo static gears right away. However, What do you think about farming in tier 8 black zones instead? I've never analyzed and compared open world (tier8) with mist (including lucky abbey encouters) but I just feel open world are better options as long as you are guaranteed to go into abbey frequently. I want to know your opinion becuz it seems like you have solid thoghts about the game.
*guaranteed->not guaranteed
I believe OW can be better, if you find nice zones filled with mini-bosses or bosses. I don't like OW cause you need to roam a lot and then forced to tp back (silver cost) while mist/abbeys can be done straight from city.
I understand after second times i watched this, thank you...
As long as it helps!
hi love the vid i thin k you got lost in math or is it just me, ff with weapon you get 100 % and 60 % more if u have full spec cloths no ? love the vids man just trying to understand since im new to the game
The 🐐 back at it again
I wanted to say "No", but then i remembered, the avatar is literally a goat
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nice video. Thanks for you job
So basically using spiked/nature for grind ton combat fame credit won't hurt? Cause i have to level tombhammer and other stuff.
If you got one of these weapons already maxed, it may be ok and even better with credits, but if you're looking for playing your build right away, you can just take your build and level, this way you will also get used to abilities.
Awseome video I subscribed
Nice video keep it up!
We will for sure!
i was about to dunk on this and say "but you have premium". glad you considered to display the stats for w/o premium
But you have no premium! 💀
bro it's very amazing video for real
As long as it works for you
I must have miss something how you can get a tier 6 weapon with no specs with 1200 ip?
2 millions fame by hour means 33 000 fame per minute. It means 6 mobs (5k xp in the mists with a (maybe) non pve weapon). I don't understand how you achieve this.
Hi I don't watch but I will give a like and sub for you, keep it up man
I feel like you're missing some things here.
1. PVE farming should also net you a return on silver so it would offset what you spend on the conversion with Auto respec.
2. you're testing with 1200 IP which is either high spec or high tier weapon with no spec. Not really a fair comparison since it's a safe bet people will be starting from zero and not running around with tier 8 weapons.
3. I highly doubt you could count healers or tank specs here since their ability to kill efficiently is terrible and generally require a group to fame farm if you're not using fame credits.
1. Most of the time, it's only a tiny bit in comparison of what respec consumes. On other hand doing PvE on weapon you want to play also grants you money and you can even PvP with it!
2. True, 1200 IP can be an issue, but every weapon scales the same, so if we go lower tiers, we'd get exactly the same % less dmg (so should be around the same % less fame) (but i'm not sure on that topic)
3. I did the tank specs, and yes, if one wants to use heavy plate in pve and achieve good farming rate, they'd need to have 500 more ip on a weapon! in comparison to mage robe (that's insane, it is like 6.0 -> 6.4 MP )
Nah this video is too high quality for the community
I use a 4.1 pve set that i maxed ages ago.
So much more efficient but thats only because i already have it.
Wow DUDE is INSINE! like!
sank u, man, when we will play together, man, i like your videos, man, big fan, man
you said you kill all "evolved" mobs on the way to the camps in the mists. Does that mean all mobs that glow?
by evolved i mean, all, but tiny ones (not ghouls, rock gatherers, small skeletons, small xbowmen etc)
Please reply bro, Isnt farming in roads the best and fastest way to fame farm per hour?
if you use specific build, not every weapon is capable of grinding roads, it is kind of a chore, but, if you level something like nature staff, then sure!
@@ButterscotchTheButtyI want to level up tank zvz build vut my clearing speed is really slow plus i got ga ked aswell
@@Malicious_Pk don't use plate armor, go for cloth, for example, my build, also thetford cape is great dps boost.
@@ButterscotchTheButtyi now used 1h mace with same armor and rest of build as you had but still without using Lp or anything i just started farming open world mobs it was boring but i did it for sake of lvls but still after 40 mins i was only able to reach 1h mace from lvl 28 to 31 pls help me😢
I even killed every single mob i saw
Can u explain the Chart on how to achieve the same dmg on a weapon/gear?
This chart shows how much extra IP you would need on weapon, to hit the same result. So, in heavy plate to have the same damage as full cloth, you'd need extra 500 IP (which is a lot and prob not worth :( )
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for the video, its very informative. How do you calculate fame per hour? I use albion statistics tool and can barely reach 2.5m with fully leveled up cloth pieces.
2.5 is a good result. i believe the tool shows the fame before premium, no ?
I believe it tracks your log, and calculates how much fame you get in total. Normal fame and combat fame is displayed separately. Il take a closer look next time. @@ButterscotchTheButty
The tool tracks correctly in my opinion, but still I cant reach fame per hour higher than 2.5-3m(heron spear + cloth build), and if we take in account dying it goes even lower.~2m normal fame + 400-500combat, tested mostly in common mists, since its easier to find them.@@ButterscotchTheButty
How does this guy only have 2k subs..
PvE is not the most popular Albion content, but maybe it'd be more popular, if'd be better, who knows.
@@ButterscotchTheButty your content pushed me over to the intermediate level in game. Thank you so much, looking forward to your next upload.
@@thehistoricalidiots7442 I'm curious what did i change, what kind of stuff you use now/used :)
@@ButterscotchTheButty its not necessarily the items i use (although I do use your sets from specific videos, mists and abby one for example) but more to do with my game knowledge. Your PVE guides helped me out alot, especially with soloing group dungeons. I've also changed the way I fame up my sets thanks to this video.