anything before iislamb is considered as jahalat so this ppapistani can't claim themsleves to be 5000 yrr old .. if they claim then it is known as claiming kkuffar iidentity which hharram in iislamb ........so they can't go back b4 1400.
@@abhashukla2281 since when ? I guess he was born after halala of his begairat behaya ghasti mughaliya ammi khala by parsis and rest of his 🐖 siblings were born after halala of his begairat behaya mughaliya ammi khala by Jamaat i islami 😂😂😂
Mr hoodbhoy also says in that podcast that even though muslim destroyed temples ..they didnt destroy that many temples...also they gave money to built temples...i commented for giving the list of temples that were made from the grant by muslim rulers😂
That's the problem with atheist ex-muslims or ex-muslims. Their thinking framework still comes from their birth faith. That's something which will never go away.
Because There is nothing proud in being Hindu Revert to Islam Is the biggest blessing of All Humans no matter person is Jinnah or A common man from us In fact They feel proud for not drinking Gaye ka mumtar anymore
@@chandaniberry9369 No he had actually said that in General, India is moving in Right direction without comparing it to Pakistan. Which is not typical of him. He always label India as a Pre Industrial feudal society.
I am with a Saraswat Brahmin ancestory. Our ancestors have mentioned that we migrated from Kashmir to Gujrat area down to Goa 5000 years back. Prior to that they have been a Part of Group of Scholars who documented the Rig Veda around the Indus-Saraswati Civilisation area.
Also went towards that time to Persia. From Goa they went towards coastal Sindhudurg and Ratnagiri District of Maharashtra. They adopted surnames of villages they settled in it. e. g. Tenduli is a village so Tendulkar. Maton is a village, So Matonkar KDGSB ( Kudal Deshkar Goud Saraswat Brahman)
I don't have this long memory, never got a chance to ask this question. All my elderly people have died. However, my ancestors used to be treasurers of Maratha Kingdom, this is where our caste "Bhandari" came from. After British Raj, "Bhandari" people were divided into different professions, the ones from my family tree became Palm wine sellers, thus we came into an OBC caste later. My grandfather, who was very knowledgeable, he told my mom our gotra was kashyap, which is a Brahmin caste gotra I believe.
This is a gem of a podcast, not just pakistani liberals, but pakistani ex muslims, those who have left islam, also are like this, 😂😂 Edit :- For ppl wondering, Im talking about Mllechas like Harris Sultan and Ghalib Kamal
It's all about Hinduism is as bad as Islam. Cause once you have left Islam Pakistan would be nothing but a 2nd grade India. Their criticism of Hinduism is to justify the existence of Pakistan.
Eternal civilization, all other ancient civilization has perished but not the bharatvarsha. Neither will the essence of sanatan dharma, neither the hindutva, har har mahadev, jai krishna, jai parshuraam, jai shri raam. 👍🚩🚩🚩🚩
@@Kem____paalty16 hhindus already lost aafghanistan, ppakistan, bangladesh , kashmir , kerala ..... 47' main he popul. xchange karna tha ... congress ne blunder kiya hai 47' main popul. xchange na kar k....
Thank you very much Kushal for this gem of a podcast. I regularly watch "Pakistani Experience" and I also watched the episode featuring Dr. Hoodhbhoy. I must say, I was definitely and utterly taken aback as Dr. Hoodhbhoy made all the factual errors with regard to the history of plastic surgery or mentioning Romila Thapar as a credible historian of India. Many of us admire Dr. Hoodhbhoy as a scientist or an intellectual, hence if the factually erroneous statements are made by him in a serious intellectual platform, like Pakistan Experience, it will certainly do a lot of harm to the young minds who are seeking knowledge on the history or geopolitics of the subcontinent. This podcast certainly debunks the erroneous statements made by Dr. Hoodhbhoy. We are indebted to you for your timely intervention. 🙏
Whoever is critical of the BJP govt and its policies, you people tend to question their credibility. Romila Thapar is a prodigy, you should be proud of her work and all the things she has done in her life.
@@malikShoaib-fj6fj @malik Shoaib there is another strawman ... There are a lot of people who don't like BJP and not a fan of Remila Thapar. She comes from a family of British collaborators and a relative of the Nehru. That's the only qualification needed to become the 'most eminent historian' of India without ever reading any of the the primary sources*! (*she herself admitted that she doesn't know Sanskrit or Persian)
@@malikShoaib-fj6fj 46'-47' election result---mooslimm constituency --( bombay province 100% vote goes to m. league , madras province 100% , bengal 95% , assam 91% , orissa 100% , central province 93% so on so on ...... ) 47' main he popul. xchange kar dena tha .....congress ne desh k saat gaddari ki hai popul. transfer na kar k....
Indian Punjabis loves the geography of Pakistani Punjab but hate the people from Pakistani Punjab because they are the one who drove them out of their land.
Hoodbooy ,Ishtiaq both have a miscued knowledge on Hinduism, Hindutva. The other day i saw Ishtiaq was talking and trying to equate Krishna's 100's of wives with Prophet and muslims only few wives etc. I really don't like these so called " Intellectuals" talk abt India, Hindus ,our Gods. It's like blind leading another blind. Pls, if u guys get to meet these ppl in person or invite for a Podcast invite young scholars like Sridhar - software engineer by profession and a practicing Vaishnava ,who give speeches on our scriptures in English as well as Tamil.🙏 He appeared in Arnab's TV debate also.
@@sharmaharshul912 disagreement for the sake of disagreement is not good, the arguments they made were valid and it's okay to accept them wholesale. It was Abhijit's friendship with various pakistanis that saved those pakistani clowns, we know how viciously he can speak and decimate others verbally if he so chooses. kudos.
I too on this particular topic. I feel Abhijeet is trying to be polite about Hoodbhoy at the cost of self contradiction, perhaps because he personally knows him.
There is a big f*ing problem with the name 'Hindu' and using it an identity marker for Indians anytime before 1947. There are two reasons behind this: 1) It is not an Endonym. A person who was living in the Indian subcontinent could easily identify his janpad. If he was learned (Not using it as a placeholder for brahmin), he could also easily tell that he was bharatiya, without much translation required, since 'Bharat' is a very old geocultural designation. 2) It wasn't a religious identity, but a name for 'India' (also comes from the persian word 'Hindus') in the same manner that the name of Deutshcland is Germany in English, or the name for Pakistan is 'Bhikaristhan' in Shuddh Hindi. Finally, the whole 'Hindu identity came into existence after the arabs' is also false. Indians never identified themselves as 'hindus' not because there wasn't a common religious identity, but because we have better names for it. The word 'Hindus' isn't even old persian, its far older. 'Hindus' occurs in the avesta, in the torah as 'hodu', in ancient greece as 'indos' and way before 'al-hind' was first written. If pakistanis can't digest this, there is no point of having a discussion with them regarding history.
@@guleria24 That's tricky. I have learned bits and pieces from all over the place by being proactive about learning Indian history and etymology for quite a few years now. [*] The first statement is obviously my opinion, someone else may think it is entirely appropriate to call medieval and ancient followers of 'Indic religions', basically Sanatan thought as hindus. [1] We know this because almost all inscriptions, rock edicts, manuscripts first refer to the person's origin by their place of birth. Eg. sculptors specifying their place of birth in a rock edict (asokan). Seen here: Chakrabarti, Manika (1981). Mālwa in Post-Maurya Period: A Critical Study with Special Emphasis on Numismatic Evidences. Punthi Pustak. p. 100. Archived from the original on 2021-07-08. Retrieved 2018-10-01. The second statement of people self idenifying as 'bharatiya' is basically encoded in every sanatan ritual that you need to partake with a declaration of where the ritual is taking place, refer to "sankalpamantra". [3] refer to 'Indika' by megasthenes, the original work is lost, but its fragments survive in commentaries by Diodorus Siculus, Strabo (Geographica), Pliny, and Arrian (Indica). Also refer to airyanem vaejeh which mentions "hapta hendu" region as a part of the original Aryan (Airyan) homeland that clearly implies that 'hendu is a word for rivers: Hendostan is the land of rivers". for "Hodu" refer psalm 136:1 of the bible (which takes the word ad hoc from the torah). I don't think anything else requires references but I can personally guarantee "Bhikaristhan" is indeed the name for Pakistan.
@@mrityunjoypaul3324 in that too, 'S' counter part is the original sound at some point, the Iranic side mutated that 'S' to 'H' which obviates that indeed 'Sindhuś' was the original word which got mutated to hendu but remained unchanged in sanskrit and the āryan branch.
AIM unfortunately came up as very weak and without any real substance or argument….sad attempt to defend his good friend Parvez…really disappointing to see him struggle …maybe he was just not prepared for this…Kushal as usual very well prepared and completely killed…
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Chodhary Kushalul Haq Pohazada Rana of Mandi bahauddin has like 1000 acres of land and does a murder a day. Does bhangra infront of Dargah Lulleh Shah Kapde ala and Sacrifices goats to please the baba (completely islamic i guess). Drinks desi Ghee instead of water and has cholestrol level of 1000%
Such a lovely podcast. Being a Bengali, I am at liberty to imagine them sitting idly at Coffee House in Kolkata & doing these conversation for hours with few inputs from Vikram Sampath & Hindol Sengupta. Perfect adda to sum it up with loads of inputs based on true history.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
I have only one doubt, as AIM said he once told/showed Parvez the correct facts against the popular historic notions about India in a personal discussion, from this interaction parvez must have gotten the idea that there are some serious misinformations in popular sources about India when it comes to history related to it, then why did he choose to write the book or form his opinions referring to the very same source? (like questioning the origin of plastic surgery in india) Why he didn't do due diligence even after knowing that there is a chance of misinformation in those popular sources? Second AIM said he isn't a historian which is correct but why he didn't use analytical thinking while coming to conclusions?
This podcast is extremely important because when I firsly listen the pakistan experiance podcast I was in shock that is he is saying truth? Being a person who knows limited about history it was hard for me to give a counter argument. But i am so glade that you make a podcast for it for those who was talking that Pakistan experiance guest telling the truth.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Dr. Hoodbhoy should explain how there was Mahabharata 5,000 years back, if there was no unified Bharat culture. Sanskrit poojas mention our land as Bharata Khanda and Jambu Dweepa.
You are spot on Kushal Mehra - people who do not accept where they come from or what their past is/ was; will always be rootless. Also, I feel that the issue is not about the Gentleman's reading list, a man is not a robot that he cannot explore the frontiers of what he has been taught. Education is an ongoing process.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Pakistanis like Pervez Hoodbhoy, Syed Muzammil, Zarrar Khurro and their ilk don't have problems with Nehru's India or Romilla Thapar's version(s) of Ancient Indian history because it was tailored to the narrative independent India was delivered with. Pakistanis are petrified by Modi-Ji's India, because (a) it has taken India beyond Pakistan's reach; (b) a growing number of Indian Muslims have begun adjusting their lives within the mainstream; (c) better education levels among Muslim women has resulted in lower birth rates; (d) no preferential treatment is given to Muslims except in non-BJP ruled states; (e) most Pakistanis believe a Sanatani India will avenge the hate and violence Pakistanis unleashed on the "Hindu" community in Pakistan since partition.
Kushal you could have played the whole clip, because the bits and pieces plays leaves the rest blind-sighted. Yes the concept of sacred geography is very evident in our mantras, when we are concluding the Pooja , India is referred as Jambudweepe, Bharatvarshe
I agree with kushal on this..statements by pervez hoodboy like no single identity existed or scientific discoveries(sushruth writing charak samhita) were made without quoting any primary source while holding his banner of being a scholar raise legitimate doubts
There are lot of things where AIM can be decimated. He's an intelligent guy but he has a lot of preconceptions and fixed notions which he has decided are right.
There is a reason why a majority of Indians want Akhand "Bharat" and not Akhand India. The name "India" or "Hindustan" comes from foreign people. Our nation's true name is Bharatvasrsh and the people of Bharatvarsh who belive in dharma should identify themselves as Sanātanī (सनातनी) and not "Hindu". As Prime Minister Modi said We Bharatvashi should unshackle our colonised mind by removing remnants of foreign identity from our country. Bharatiya Sabhyata is at least 10000 years old. From Bharat, all major Eastern beliefs and ways of living such as Sanatan Dharma, Ways of Gautama Buddha, Jainism and Sikhism were born. We should focus on capacity building right now. Akhand Bharat is 100-year plan to achieve that goal we should start by removing the shackles of colonialism, and enlighten the people of Bharat of our true history.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
I don't know why AIM is trying to argue with Kushal here. It is quite clear Kushal is trying to show how shallow this Parvez Boy's (Yes, Boy is good enough) "scholarship" is. And, why is AIM even arguing? Why is it our burden to give this "scholar" primary sources so that he can present authentic history? That is his responsibility. Parvez did not have to venture into an area and write something if he was not willing to do his complete research. That is precisely what Kushal was saying. Why say things like "ancient Indians practicing plastic surgery is nonsense..." That is arrogance! An author who does half-baked research should be really humble and not dismiss everything as "nonsense." What one needs to understand is, for Muslims, whether politicians, theologians, atheists... their "history" starts only after the birth of their prophet. They believe the humanity was rotting in dark ages until their prophet came along. So, the richness & lofty ideas pervasive in Sanskrit literature, Vedas, Upanishads, yoga, Mahabharata, Ramayana.... none of these things matter to them. Bring Shraddalu Ranade and have this Boy guy sit under his feet. Then he will realize writing a book about Hindus is a blunder he should not have committed.
@@patmclaughlin107 pakistan is beyond repair. We honestly need to compare ourselves with other progressive countries which share the same struggles as us.
Superb Kushal...I get your point. This tendency to see the other through one's own subjective lense...that's the problem here. Similarly I also agree with AIM....after having listened to Parvez on several occasions. He has read the historical stuff only from the sources that you and I blindly accepted growing up in the 90's. Given the evidence he will change his understanding
Pakistani podcast me anchor ke alawa sab bekar hai 😂 Guest to bilkul hi ullu hai 😂 He don't want to read Shushruta because it goes against his ideology. He wants to just destroy society.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Nhi , AIM is like , he agrees with hoodbhoy on the claims but not the interpretation, Kushal is like , agreed but interpretation hi to main hain. The thing where both Abhijit and kushal agrees are the sushruta claim and Pakistan's identity crisis where they claim harappa and mohenjo daro , sons of qasim , sons of sassanids , sons of Arabs and the latest being sons of ertugurul and all
Could it be due to the fact that its founder, Mahomedali Jinnahbhai (aka Muhammad Ali Jinnah) was suffering from his own identify crisis? Kaun(s)?: - Grandson of fish-trader Premji Bhai "Meghji" Thakkar, who was excommunicated from his relatives due to the strictly vegetarian diet - Dude changing his date of birth once and name twice - married cousin Emibai, who later died - At age 42, eloped with Parsi friend's 18 yo daughter [ No this is not a plot from Kerala files] Pros: - tried his hands in Shakespearean plays - became a lawyer and represented clients like Bal Gangadhar Tilak - One of the few major leaders who leaded in favor of Bhagat Singh
AIM makes a very good point about Eaton. That instead of lying he cherry picks and makes a narrative. This is what most Western scholars on India do. Most academics by default are left wing. So by default they downplay India and paint a false perception.
Saraswati and all other rivers mentioned in rig veda are in Afghanistan and beyond. They are still called with similar names in local language. When those tribes moved into modern India they tried to recreate the homelands' geography and topology over in India. Just like when Europeans moved to America they named places based on their original homes in Europe.
Nope. .u r speaking opposite. Saraswati nd all other river mentioned in RIGVED are in GREATER INDIA. When ppl from here were expelled after losing wars, they moved North nd west nd recreated something like their original homeland. Just like European moved to america nd named places there as Europe.
It is written in vishnu puran. The land covered by Himalayas in north and indu sagar in the south is called Hind and people staying within are called Hindu.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Being a ayurveda student I can tell you the first plastic surgery in Bharat 3000 years ago at time of acharya sushruta... Anyone thinks different present the facts
It is Syria. Anyway there are multiple problems with Sanskrit originating in Syria. The biggest problem is that the local language was a form of Hurrian or Aramaean. Not an Indo-European language at all. The instances of Sanskrit so to speak are largely restricted to personal names and administartive agreements/documents, signifying it was a relatively small elite group using it.
@@adityajoshi6422 He is telling the truth ( but it is in nothern turkey ( hitties empire) mittanni were there neighbours they used to fight alot. The use of sanskrit was very limited & it is used in very specific purposes only the ruling class were using it.
to be clear, the Hittites ( while in Turkey, central not Northern) never used Sanskrit. They had a indo-European language belonging to the Anatolian branch, which is very far away from Sanskrit, maybe in some sense the farthest away out of all the other Indo-European languages. The Mitanni were mostly in Syria and maybe in some pockets of southern Turkey. The Mitanni elite had Sanskritic ( indo-Aryan ) names and used some terms in their administrative documents. The confusion between Turkey and Syria may rise from the fact that there is a peace treaty between the Mitanni And the Hittite which refers to some early Vedic gods ( Varuna / Mitra etc ). Bear in mind though, this is the Mitanni side of the treaty. Ancient treaties would have two versions with each side invoking their gods to ratify the treaty.
Dr Hoodhboy suffers from selective bias. Especially when it comes to matters of religion and identity. Not exactly being a good boy, in fact being a naughty boy, Dr Hoodhboy.
@1:91:01 - Please know that Punjab in Pakistan and India are both different as here this side is not dominated by Muslim. There is nothing common except spoken language (not even written as our is original with Gurmukhi script). Do not miss - Religion
The Indian subcontinent has been known as Jambudvīpa (Sanskrit: जम्बुद्वीप; Pali: Jambudīpa) for ages. The subcontinent always had an identity, the sovereign nation "India" came with the definition of an UN-recognized "state". Also, when Parvez (or Kamal Hasan) say there was no Hindu - it makes sense since everyone was Hindu back then. Till we get any aliens, we will not call ourselves "Earthians".
Kushal can look good if he wants to but man doesn't care and I appreciate it. Gola is golu molu but he too isn't a bad looking guy. A little bit of gym can help him.
The first hindutvadi is emperor Shivaji both politically and culturally he sooo underrepresented in both Rw circles and Lw circles please include him in the talk he is perfect when countering Pakistan you should have used him khel khatam dukhaan band why waste breath (P.s do not use lefty sources they are clefts on the face of India) his son Sri sambaji is also a good example Pervez is trying to justify Pakistan and it’s creation
*Negative Identity of Pakistanis* I am Not Hindu I am Not Indian I am Not Punjabi I am Not Sikh I am Not Shia I am Not Ahmadi I am Not Sindhi I am Not Balochi I am Not Pashtun I am Not Ajlafi I am Not Mujahir Pakistanis should Stop the Drama that they are the Aulads of Turks or Arabs or Mongols. Pakistanis are also Hindustanis. Afghans are also Hindustanis. Balochs are also Hindustanis. Bengalis are Hindustanis. Punjabis are Hindustanis. Sri Lankan are Hindustanis. Maldives are Hindustanis. 🙏🏽🇮🇳🙏🏽
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Are simple saudi mai mandir mila hai all pakistani claim busted 😂 and tell pakistanis to say that ramayan and mahabharat is theirs which are older than arabs
I used to like Pervez but few things changed my opinion about him. He suffers from Kushal what you call ‘Abrhamic Privilege Syndrome’ when it comes to Hindus. AIM burping a lot, Kushal did you feed him Poha a lot?
Sirs,don't bother what Professor Saheb says about India in his latest book. He is making a case for Pakistani audience as a liberal,secularist,highly educated intellectual. His emphasis on education is remarkable. He is a rare type of Pakistani.
earlier i used to believe hudboy was intelligent,but one thing i noticed through this podcast and learn his book, he has read just single narrative on particular topic which is mostly suggested by western scholars who themselves has particular narrative and agendas..this proves pakistanis dont read much and do proper research even their so called biggest experts..but atleast he is open to discussion unlike other so called pakistani expert but still needed to see his debate with expert with different narrative
Riga Veda may be written in Punjab haryana region but Maharishi Veda Vyas was not from that region , he was born in an island (river side) near Yamuna river in UP and his father Maharishi Parashar also was born in UP and so was his great grand father Maharishi vashisht .
So Hinduism is a religion of North Indians? So basically, it is as Foreign to Kerala, Chattisgarh, Orissa, Assam as much as Islam and Christianity is. Thanks for endorsing it.
Saraswati is in Afghanistan. It originates in Ghazni province and flows through helmand province. It is now called Argandarwdab (arv-ghandharv-aab - river of Gandharvas) and was called Harhavati in old iranian texts. Thats saraswati in its sister language sanskrit.
Harhavati is not even a river but a rivulet joining Helmund. Whereas Saraswati is a mighty river. Saraswati is not just mentioned in but in Mahabharata too, which depicts it as a mighty river flowing from Himalayas to ocean.
With my Kashmiri side of family and eating meat is compulsory for us ? Eating meat is not compulsory for any Kashmiri HINDU family . He is making it look like as if Kashmiri Hindu it is a strict mandate to eat meat.
Pakistan is 5000 years old Islan is 1400 years old. Common sense haram hai pakistan me.
LMAO
anything before iislamb is considered as jahalat so this ppapistani can't claim themsleves to be 5000 yrr old .. if they claim then it is known as claiming kkuffar iidentity which hharram in iislamb ........so they can't go back b4 1400.
@@urrasscal8380 tabhi ye haal hai😊
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Hindus have a cultural identity but not polticial identity. Hindutva makes the political identity possible.
Awesome articulation of a very complex idea
Very well said... and a very pertinent point.
This is an accurate comment.
Things like political identity shouldn't even exist but since we have so many mozlims i guess we also need a political identity
Good point of view
Muslim is Muslim who ever is a scholar, the inner core is world is flat
But the fact is hoodbhoy is a parsi
@@abhashukla2281 since when ? I guess he was born after halala of his begairat behaya ghasti mughaliya ammi khala by parsis and rest of his 🐖 siblings were born after halala of his begairat behaya mughaliya ammi khala by Jamaat i islami 😂😂😂
@@abhashukla2281 That's a lie,he is a ismaili muslim.
@@abhashukla2281 Muzlim hai
@@abhi3710 nhi bhai wo parsi hi hai.
Mr hoodbhoy also says in that podcast that even though muslim destroyed temples ..they didnt destroy that many temples...also they gave money to built temples...i commented for giving the list of temples that were made from the grant by muslim rulers😂
All pakistani have same ideology nothing will be going to change
@Vai Bha kashmir had thousands of temples. :-(
Its like saying sari mosque thodi na todi hai bss mecca todh diya chill mar
Bhai Inka liberal v chutiya hai aur anti hindu mentality se grashit hai
That's the problem with atheist ex-muslims or ex-muslims. Their thinking framework still comes from their birth faith. That's something which will never go away.
In Pakistan you are not allowed to do any study or even PHD ON Jinnah …. We Indians know the reason because then they will find his truth😂😂😂
Yess so called jinnah was Hindu from Gujarat Fisher man & was converted to Muslim by boycott from thier follow community
@Reo12950not only that. ..he used to drink , smoke , lived a very Western livestyle as against the teachings of Islam
Because There is nothing proud in being Hindu Revert to Islam Is the biggest blessing of All Humans no matter person is Jinnah or A common man from us In fact They feel proud for not drinking Gaye ka mumtar anymore
@@SheikhMoeezIqbal448dude I can understand what you are trynna say but the shit you've written is making no sense
It's actually true because Pakistani students are kept blind by making Jinnah sb a sacred figure that can't be questioned
Finally AIM has admitted things are going in Right direction in India. Otherwise he had a self loathing attitude towards India.
निंदक नियरे राखिए ऑंगन कुटी छवाय,
बिन पानी, साबुन बिना, निर्मल करे सुभाय।
@@darwinianchimp2630 Nice . But Abhijit has little practical understanding of India. That's why his criticism most of the times makes no sense.
He admitted things are good , bright and shining in comparison to Pakistan.
@@chandaniberry9369 No he had actually said that in General, India is moving in Right direction without comparing it to Pakistan.
Which is not typical of him. He always label India as a Pre Industrial feudal society.
@Ravina Kuwar Maybe I interpreted it wrong. Could be. My reading is , he was in the Pakistan vs India mindset .
I am with a Saraswat Brahmin ancestory. Our ancestors have mentioned that we migrated from Kashmir to Gujrat area down to Goa 5000 years back. Prior to that they have been a Part of Group of Scholars who documented the Rig Veda around the Indus-Saraswati Civilisation area.
Also went towards that time to Persia.
From Goa they went towards coastal Sindhudurg and Ratnagiri District of Maharashtra. They adopted surnames of villages they settled in it. e. g. Tenduli is a village so Tendulkar. Maton is a village, So Matonkar
KDGSB ( Kudal Deshkar Goud Saraswat Brahman)
@@rudrarishi2523 lie
@@Ali-ld6tgAli? Muslim😅
I don't have this long memory, never got a chance to ask this question. All my elderly people have died.
However, my ancestors used to be treasurers of Maratha Kingdom, this is where our caste "Bhandari" came from. After British Raj, "Bhandari" people were divided into different professions, the ones from my family tree became Palm wine sellers, thus we came into an OBC caste later.
My grandfather, who was very knowledgeable, he told my mom our gotra was kashyap, which is a Brahmin caste gotra I believe.
@@SankhyameBhandari is treasurer's caste true enough but all patankars r sonars
Its well known fact in marathi bakhars .
This is a gem of a podcast, not just pakistani liberals, but pakistani ex muslims, those who have left islam, also are like this, 😂😂
Edit :- For ppl wondering, Im talking about Mllechas like Harris Sultan and Ghalib Kamal
😆 true
It's all about Hinduism is as bad as Islam. Cause once you have left Islam Pakistan would be nothing but a 2nd grade India. Their criticism of Hinduism is to justify the existence of Pakistan.
Lol.. ur user name..
I was thinking the same. ..😆
Both Harris and galib r jokers
They don't have any idea about hindus contribution to indian subcontinent. ..and America
Harris is still reasonable but Ghalib is a total clown. What a piece of work!
Parvez is "andho me kanwa raja"
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There was no such idea as india, but Bharat was, is, will always will be...
Eternal civilization, all other ancient civilization has perished but not the bharatvarsha. Neither will the essence of sanatan dharma, neither the hindutva, har har mahadev, jai krishna, jai parshuraam, jai shri raam. 👍🚩🚩🚩🚩
I liked your comment but not sure if it will remain I another 1000 or 2000 years
Aryavart 🚩 was original name not bharat
So bharat where kingdoms were fighting each other. How is that a hood model.
@@Kem____paalty16 hhindus already lost aafghanistan, ppakistan, bangladesh , kashmir , kerala ..... 47' main he popul. xchange karna tha ... congress ne blunder kiya hai 47' main popul. xchange na kar k....
Thank you very much Kushal for this gem of a podcast. I regularly watch "Pakistani Experience" and I also watched the episode featuring Dr. Hoodhbhoy. I must say, I was definitely and utterly taken aback as Dr. Hoodhbhoy made all the factual errors with regard to the history of plastic surgery or mentioning Romila Thapar as a credible historian of India. Many of us admire Dr. Hoodhbhoy as a scientist or an intellectual, hence if the factually erroneous statements are made by him in a serious intellectual platform, like Pakistan Experience, it will certainly do a lot of harm to the young minds who are seeking knowledge on the history or geopolitics of the subcontinent. This podcast certainly debunks the erroneous statements made by Dr. Hoodhbhoy. We are indebted to you for your timely intervention. 🙏
Dr Hoodhbhoy had made a documentary on Kashmir as well. It is extremely troubling as it painted a very skewed picture of the whole issue.
@@namansinghnegi8931 Pakistani 'intellectual’ elites are far more duplicitous that their average population.
Whoever is critical of the BJP govt and its policies, you people tend to question their credibility. Romila Thapar is a prodigy, you should be proud of her work and all the things she has done in her life.
@@malikShoaib-fj6fj @malik Shoaib there is another strawman ... There are a lot of people who don't like BJP and not a fan of Remila Thapar.
She comes from a family of British collaborators and a relative of the Nehru. That's the only qualification needed to become the 'most eminent historian' of India without ever reading any of the the primary sources*!
(*she herself admitted that she doesn't know Sanskrit or Persian)
@@malikShoaib-fj6fj 46'-47' election result---mooslimm constituency --( bombay province 100% vote goes to m. league , madras province 100% , bengal 95% , assam 91% , orissa 100% , central province 93% so on so on ...... ) 47' main he popul. xchange kar dena tha .....congress ne desh k saat gaddari ki hai popul. transfer na kar k....
Indian Punjabis loves the geography of Pakistani Punjab but hate the people from Pakistani Punjab because they are the one who drove them out of their land.
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Abhijit trying not to speak against Hoodboy because of the friendship.
I think AIM is saying that Hoodboy is Victim of bad literature and there is nothing to talk about here . I support Kushal on questioning BS .
@@rimurutempest2130 boss he is doing it deliberately, false-hood bhoy is very chalak bro
Hoodbooy ,Ishtiaq both have a miscued knowledge on Hinduism, Hindutva. The other day i saw Ishtiaq was talking and trying to equate Krishna's 100's of wives with Prophet and muslims only few wives etc. I really don't like these so called " Intellectuals" talk abt India, Hindus ,our Gods. It's like blind leading another blind. Pls, if u guys get to meet these ppl in person or invite for a Podcast invite young scholars like Sridhar - software engineer by profession and a practicing Vaishnava ,who give speeches on our scriptures in English as well as Tamil.🙏 He appeared in Arnab's TV debate also.
ishtiaq is a joker
I am 100% agree with kushal ❤
Don't agree with any one 100% man . 99% is also ok . 😌
Yes, I also concluded the same from shahzad. "Hum to doobey hai tum ko bhi le dubeyenge"
@@sharmaharshul912 disagreement for the sake of disagreement is not good, the arguments they made were valid and it's okay to accept them wholesale. It was Abhijit's friendship with various pakistanis that saved those pakistani clowns, we know how viciously he can speak and decimate others verbally if he so chooses. kudos.
I too on this particular topic.
I feel Abhijeet is trying to be polite about Hoodbhoy at the cost of self contradiction, perhaps because he personally knows him.
'Am' not required*
Zoroastrianism became monotheistic gradually. Kushal is right.
Still it was tolerant toward polythyistic cults just like relationship we have with sikhs
@@mrmap4875 yes zoroastrianism is tolerant towards other religions
no monotheistic rreligion is a rreligion of peace ..
@@urrasscal8380 religion of pièce?
@@mrmap4875what bakwas!
There is a big f*ing problem with the name 'Hindu' and using it an identity marker for Indians anytime before 1947.
There are two reasons behind this:
1) It is not an Endonym. A person who was living in the Indian subcontinent could easily identify his janpad. If he was learned (Not using it as a placeholder for brahmin), he could also easily tell that he was bharatiya, without much translation required, since 'Bharat' is a very old geocultural designation.
2) It wasn't a religious identity, but a name for 'India' (also comes from the persian word 'Hindus') in the same manner that the name of Deutshcland is Germany in English, or the name for Pakistan is 'Bhikaristhan' in Shuddh Hindi.
Finally, the whole 'Hindu identity came into existence after the arabs' is also false. Indians never identified themselves as 'hindus' not because there wasn't a common religious identity, but because we have better names for it. The word 'Hindus' isn't even old persian, its far older. 'Hindus' occurs in the avesta, in the torah as 'hodu', in ancient greece as 'indos' and way before 'al-hind' was first written.
If pakistanis can't digest this, there is no point of having a discussion with them regarding history.
Bro can you refer your sources
totally agree with you.
@@guleria24 That's tricky. I have learned bits and pieces from all over the place by being proactive about learning Indian history and etymology for quite a few years now.
[*] The first statement is obviously my opinion, someone else may think it is entirely appropriate to call medieval and ancient followers of 'Indic religions', basically Sanatan thought as hindus.
[1] We know this because almost all inscriptions, rock edicts, manuscripts first refer to the person's origin by their place of birth. Eg. sculptors specifying their place of birth in a rock edict (asokan). Seen here: Chakrabarti, Manika (1981). Mālwa in Post-Maurya Period: A Critical Study with Special Emphasis on Numismatic Evidences. Punthi Pustak. p. 100. Archived from the original on 2021-07-08. Retrieved 2018-10-01.
The second statement of people self idenifying as 'bharatiya' is basically encoded in every sanatan ritual that you need to partake with a declaration of where the ritual is taking place, refer to "sankalpamantra".
[3] refer to 'Indika' by megasthenes, the original work is lost, but its fragments survive in commentaries by Diodorus Siculus, Strabo (Geographica), Pliny, and Arrian (Indica). Also refer to airyanem vaejeh which mentions "hapta hendu" region as a part of the original Aryan (Airyan) homeland that clearly implies that 'hendu is a word for rivers: Hendostan is the land of rivers". for "Hodu" refer psalm 136:1 of the bible (which takes the word ad hoc from the torah).
I don't think anything else requires references but I can personally guarantee "Bhikaristhan" is indeed the name for Pakistan.
@@chinmayjoshi3592 I would like to add there was a S/H exchange in the indo iranic and indo aryan pronunciations at the time.
@@mrityunjoypaul3324 in that too, 'S' counter part is the original sound at some point, the Iranic side mutated that 'S' to 'H' which obviates that indeed 'Sindhuś' was the original word which got mutated to hendu but remained unchanged in sanskrit and the āryan branch.
AIM unfortunately came up as very weak and without any real substance or argument….sad attempt to defend his good friend Parvez…really disappointing to see him struggle …maybe he was just not prepared for this…Kushal as usual very well prepared and completely killed…
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Is the center guy in the thumbnail Kushal photoshopped with a beard? 😂
Yes, got scares though
Chodhary Kushalul Haq Pohazada Rana of Mandi bahauddin has like 1000 acres of land and does a murder a day. Does bhangra infront of Dargah Lulleh Shah Kapde ala and Sacrifices goats to please the baba (completely islamic i guess). Drinks desi Ghee instead of water and has cholestrol level of 1000%
@@vimalkhaini Imagine him being a kattar mullah in that being and giving takreer in a loud tone..
@@fab8187 excellent analysis of the situation
@@fab8187 lmao
Such a lovely podcast. Being a Bengali, I am at liberty to imagine them sitting idly at Coffee House in Kolkata & doing these conversation for hours with few inputs from Vikram Sampath & Hindol Sengupta. Perfect adda to sum it up with loads of inputs based on true history.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
I have only one doubt, as AIM said he once told/showed Parvez the correct facts against the popular historic notions about India in a personal discussion, from this interaction parvez must have gotten the idea that there are some serious misinformations in popular sources about India when it comes to history related to it, then why did he choose to write the book or form his opinions referring to the very same source? (like questioning the origin of plastic surgery in india) Why he didn't do due diligence even after knowing that there is a chance of misinformation in those popular sources?
Second AIM said he isn't a historian which is correct but why he didn't use analytical thinking while coming to conclusions?
He is trying to justify the creation of Pakistan with a Marxist viewpoint
AIM is usually objective but based on his relationship with the said person he has very strong biases.
That means he is dishonest ?
@@_Ironhide True AIM has very strong Biases.
There are many books already written. He doesn't have to do that. People don't read whats already there
This podcast is extremely important because when I firsly listen the pakistan experiance podcast I was in shock that is he is saying truth? Being a person who knows limited about history it was hard for me to give a counter argument.
But i am so glade that you make a podcast for it for those who was talking that Pakistan experiance guest telling the truth.
What a great podcast.
Thank you , Kushal.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Dr. Hoodbhoy should explain how there was Mahabharata 5,000 years back, if there was no unified Bharat culture. Sanskrit poojas mention our land as Bharata Khanda and Jambu Dweepa.
Keep up the good discussion! 👌🏻
Do watch the podcast with pervez hood bhoy,when he said that Sanskrit did not originate in India,I burst out laughing
Thank you Kushal for putting so much work behind all your podcast.
Pakistani beware before clicking.
😂😂😂 we don't need your views
You are spot on Kushal Mehra - people who do not accept where they come from or what their past is/ was; will always be rootless. Also, I feel that the issue is not about the Gentleman's reading list, a man is not a robot that he cannot explore the frontiers of what he has been taught. Education is an ongoing process.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Pakistanis like Pervez Hoodbhoy, Syed Muzammil, Zarrar Khurro and their ilk don't have problems with Nehru's India or Romilla Thapar's version(s) of Ancient Indian history because it was tailored to the narrative independent India was delivered with. Pakistanis are petrified by Modi-Ji's India, because (a) it has taken India beyond Pakistan's reach; (b) a growing number of Indian Muslims have begun adjusting their lives within the mainstream; (c) better education levels among Muslim women has resulted in lower birth rates; (d) no preferential treatment is given to Muslims except in non-BJP ruled states; (e) most Pakistanis believe a Sanatani India will avenge the hate and violence Pakistanis unleashed on the "Hindu" community in Pakistan since partition.
The best comment in the entire comment section. Every point you made hit multiple nails on the head😊
Kushal you could have played the whole clip, because the bits and pieces plays leaves the rest blind-sighted. Yes the concept of sacred geography is very evident in our mantras, when we are concluding the Pooja , India is referred as Jambudweepe, Bharatvarshe
May be allowed to use bits and pieces
otherwise..... copyright strike
... Jambudveepe Bhaataratvarshe Bharatkhande Aryaavartaik Deshaantargate ...
I agree with kushal on this..statements by pervez hoodboy like no single identity existed or scientific discoveries(sushruth writing charak samhita) were made without quoting any primary source while holding his banner of being a scholar raise legitimate doubts
Hi
When a physicist becomes historian
Guys from where such high level of knowledge you gather?
My salute to you.
I can see why new Bharat has become open minded and progressive.
What a treat to watch this with proper academic references 👏👏
Kushal decimated AIM in this podcast! AIM needs some serious Indian history lessons…
There are lot of things where AIM can be decimated. He's an intelligent guy but he has a lot of preconceptions and fixed notions which he has decided are right.
Who is AIM?
@@IITTPPEEDD abhijit iyer mitra, the guest .
There is a reason why a majority of Indians want Akhand "Bharat" and not Akhand India. The name "India" or "Hindustan" comes from foreign people. Our nation's true name is Bharatvasrsh and the people of Bharatvarsh who belive in dharma should identify themselves as Sanātanī (सनातनी) and not "Hindu". As Prime Minister Modi said We Bharatvashi should unshackle our colonised mind by removing remnants of foreign identity from our country. Bharatiya Sabhyata is at least 10000 years old. From Bharat, all major Eastern beliefs and ways of living such as Sanatan Dharma, Ways of Gautama Buddha, Jainism and Sikhism were born. We should focus on capacity building right now. Akhand Bharat is 100-year plan to achieve that goal we should start by removing the shackles of colonialism, and enlighten the people of Bharat of our true history.
Bhaaratha*, Bhaarathavarsha. Samskritham words end in vowels generally. Shiva, Raama, duryodhana, Seethaa, Raamayana, & so on.
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Kushal you are spot on after the 1hr mark time to throw these second rate elites of there high horse
I don't know why AIM is trying to argue with Kushal here. It is quite clear Kushal is trying to show how shallow this Parvez Boy's (Yes, Boy is good enough) "scholarship" is. And, why is AIM even arguing? Why is it our burden to give this "scholar" primary sources so that he can present authentic history? That is his responsibility. Parvez did not have to venture into an area and write something if he was not willing to do his complete research. That is precisely what Kushal was saying. Why say things like "ancient Indians practicing plastic surgery is nonsense..." That is arrogance! An author who does half-baked research should be really humble and not dismiss everything as "nonsense." What one needs to understand is, for Muslims, whether politicians, theologians, atheists... their "history" starts only after the birth of their prophet. They believe the humanity was rotting in dark ages until their prophet came along. So, the richness & lofty ideas pervasive in Sanskrit literature, Vedas, Upanishads, yoga, Mahabharata, Ramayana.... none of these things matter to them. Bring Shraddalu Ranade and have this Boy guy sit under his feet. Then he will realize writing a book about Hindus is a blunder he should not have committed.
59:04 even takla is accepting India is the bright shining star 😂😂 i can sleep nicely tonight
Compared to Pakistan, yes. But the point most of us agree is that we can shine even brighter.
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@@patmclaughlin107 pakistan is beyond repair. We honestly need to compare ourselves with other progressive countries which share the same struggles as us.
@@aayushhh95 Of course
@@aayushhh95 Japan , china , taiwan
Superb Kushal...I get your point. This tendency to see the other through one's own subjective lense...that's the problem here.
Similarly I also agree with AIM....after having listened to Parvez on several occasions. He has read the historical stuff only from the sources that you and I blindly accepted growing up in the 90's.
Given the evidence he will change his understanding
I don’t know why but I giggle every time Abhijeet cusses.
Great discussion.
Never forget your roots.
Nobody literally Nobody
Abhijeet cussing - Bencho Madarcho, Tatti ka baccha, Gandu ka descendant.
Pakistani podcast me anchor ke alawa sab bekar hai 😂
Guest to bilkul hi ullu hai 😂
He don't want to read Shushruta because it goes against his ideology. He wants to just destroy society.
Kushal is Bang on, AIM played slow for his friend
Great podcast. Eventually Abhijit ends up agreeing with Kushal. Kudos.🎉🎉
I feel Abhijeet is trying hard to be polite about Hoodbhoy at the cost of self contradiction, perhaps because he personally knows him.
Honestly this is one of the best podcasts from Kushal. Maybe one of the best on YT. Great work Kushal!
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Kushal is right on spot ,for hoodhboy podcast.
Kushal Mehra DESTROYS Abhijit Iyer Mitra with FACTS and LOGIC
In his dreams maybe
@@tushar4506 he literally just did.
Rigveda was written in India. All the places mentioned in Indian texts are in India.
Excellent discussion Kushal sane people like Pervez Hudhboy also have poor knowledge about Indian subcontinent .
I think AIM is saying that Hoodboy is Victim and there is nothing to talk about here . I support Kushal on questioning BS .
@24:25 The "S" and "H" division can also be found in Bangla and Assamese, right? "Saagar" becomes "Haagar" in Assamese.
This is also found in some European languages like Portuguese and Spanish.
Kushal completely overpowered AIM in here...may be because AIM is sympathetic to that guy...😂😂😂
Nhi ,
AIM is like , he agrees with hoodbhoy on the claims but not the interpretation,
Kushal is like , agreed but interpretation hi to main hain.
The thing where both Abhijit and kushal agrees are the sushruta claim and Pakistan's identity crisis where they claim harappa and mohenjo daro , sons of qasim , sons of sassanids , sons of Arabs and the latest being sons of ertugurul and all
Muzammil is sharp but hype.
He is more of bookish and often make mistakes due lack of understanding of real issues.
Could it be due to the fact that its founder, Mahomedali Jinnahbhai (aka Muhammad Ali Jinnah) was suffering from his own identify crisis?
Kaun(s)?:
- Grandson of fish-trader Premji Bhai "Meghji" Thakkar, who was excommunicated from his relatives due to the strictly vegetarian diet
- Dude changing his date of birth once and name twice
- married cousin Emibai, who later died
- At age 42, eloped with Parsi friend's 18 yo daughter [ No this is not a plot from Kerala files]
Pros:
- tried his hands in Shakespearean plays
- became a lawyer and represented clients like Bal Gangadhar Tilak
- One of the few major leaders who leaded in favor of Bhagat Singh
Maulana kushal in thumbnail. Mashallah bhaijaan ❤
Love these guys..❤...thanks for knowledge and fun at the same time...
Kushal won my heart today.
And he is faar goraa than Abhijit.
Light is is falling equally on both faces.
AIM makes a very good point about Eaton. That instead of lying he cherry picks and makes a narrative. This is what most Western scholars on India do. Most academics by default are left wing. So by default they downplay India and paint a false perception.
Kudos to Kushal for calling out hoodbhoy
Saraswati and all other rivers mentioned in rig veda are in Afghanistan and beyond. They are still called with similar names in local language. When those tribes moved into modern India they tried to recreate the homelands' geography and topology over in India. Just like when Europeans moved to America they named places based on their original homes in Europe.
Nope. .u r speaking opposite.
Saraswati nd all other river mentioned in RIGVED are in GREATER INDIA.
When ppl from here were expelled after losing wars, they moved North nd west nd recreated something like their original homeland.
Just like European moved to america nd named places there as Europe.
Nope Saraswati river is in India
Is there anything like righveda over there?
Dude saraswati flows from haryana
@@harharmahadev54321 - Rig veda itself was composed in Afghanistan..in the region between rivers Harahvati (Saraswati) and Harayu (Sarayu).
Kushal understand pakistan better than abhhit..👍
It is written in vishnu puran. The land covered by Himalayas in north and indu sagar in the south is called Hind and people staying within are called Hindu.
Highly intellectual. You guys are under rated
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Why don't South Asian Muslims agree that they are converted Hindu😢
They are following culture that aren't theirs, their culture is "SANATAN"
We have been Hindus right from the start might be a Hinduism belief but not Hindutva’s. Hindutva is Hindutva because Islamism is Islamism.
Hindutva is a concept of india .. for the india .not like islamism taht claim every other country as islamist
@@kanishkkumar5431 Hindutva is the process of "Islamization" of India. Which is a necessary short term strategy.
@@VJ592 hindutva is a process of safrronising india
@@kanishkkumar5431 No Its not. Islam is basically a political construct in the dress of religion. If you can't beat them join them.
@@kanishkkumar5431 which is good the antidote of chuslam.
Pakistan's identity = mere सौ सौ baap.
Being a ayurveda student I can tell you the first plastic surgery in Bharat 3000 years ago at time of acharya sushruta... Anyone thinks different present the facts
It is Syria. Anyway there are multiple problems with Sanskrit originating in Syria. The biggest problem is that the local language was a form of Hurrian or Aramaean. Not an Indo-European language at all. The instances of Sanskrit so to speak are largely restricted to personal names and administartive agreements/documents, signifying it was a relatively small elite group using it.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing
@@adityajoshi6422 He is telling the truth ( but it is in nothern turkey ( hitties empire) mittanni were there neighbours they used to fight alot. The use of sanskrit was very limited & it is used in very specific purposes only the ruling class were using it.
to be clear, the Hittites ( while in Turkey, central not Northern) never used Sanskrit. They had a indo-European language belonging to the Anatolian branch, which is very far away from Sanskrit, maybe in some sense the farthest away out of all the other Indo-European languages. The Mitanni were mostly in Syria and maybe in some pockets of southern Turkey. The Mitanni elite had Sanskritic ( indo-Aryan ) names and used some terms in their administrative documents. The confusion between Turkey and Syria may rise from the fact that there is a peace treaty between the Mitanni And the Hittite which refers to some early Vedic gods ( Varuna / Mitra etc ). Bear in mind though, this is the Mitanni side of the treaty. Ancient treaties would have two versions with each side invoking their gods to ratify the treaty.
Alhamdulillah Kushal looks like king Faisal.
That’s exactly the correct line they truly have an identity crisis they fight so hard to hate their Indian heritage so sad of them
Going by the thumbnail, Kushal's really got an identity crisis 😂
sometimes I think Abhijit is like that Raziya who stuck among fools
What couldn't be concluded by AIM and Kushal in entire podcast would have been said by Rahul Arya in one 1 minute
By JSD in a blink of an eye...
@@TM-ym5wi indeed
@@TM-ym5wi yup
Kushal and abhijit are so exhausted talking to each other....especially when both of them try to stop each others conversation mid way through.
Dr Hoodhboy suffers from selective bias. Especially when it comes to matters of religion and identity. Not exactly being a good boy, in fact being a naughty boy, Dr Hoodhboy.
@1:91:01 - Please know that Punjab in Pakistan and India are both different as here this side is not dominated by Muslim. There is nothing common except spoken language (not even written as our is original with Gurmukhi script). Do not miss - Religion
The Indian subcontinent has been known as Jambudvīpa (Sanskrit: जम्बुद्वीप; Pali: Jambudīpa) for ages.
The subcontinent always had an identity, the sovereign nation "India" came with the definition of an UN-recognized "state".
Also, when Parvez (or Kamal Hasan) say there was no Hindu - it makes sense since everyone was Hindu back then.
Till we get any aliens, we will not call ourselves "Earthians".
highly agree with kushals point of views. aim is just being historically inline..with pakistan theres nothing historical but all psychological. !!
Kushal and Abhijit sitting together , i can honestly without bias say Abhijit looks more kaala than kushal 😂😂😂
Abhe Abhijit tu toh kaala hai beh 😂
No joking but kushal sach mein bahut handsome hain , he has a good beard , symmetric face , poora rich Grimes hai.
Kushal can look good if he wants to but man doesn't care and I appreciate it.
Gola is golu molu but he too isn't a bad looking guy. A little bit of gym can help him.
@@devvratmishra9000 bro wuuut kushal is like the most ugly looking person 💀💀
1:23:02 I absolutely hate the term South Asia. I'll always prefer Indian Subcontinent.
The first hindutvadi is emperor Shivaji both politically and culturally he sooo underrepresented in both Rw circles and Lw circles please include him in the talk he is perfect when countering Pakistan you should have used him khel khatam dukhaan band why waste breath (P.s do not use lefty sources they are clefts on the face of India) his son Sri sambaji is also a good example Pervez is trying to justify Pakistan and it’s creation
Hindutva concept originated in vijayanagara empire. But marathas took into another level
GLAD U TOOK THIS TOPIC..
I replied to his podcast in pakistani experience
Khushal i beg you please send this clip to jaipur dialogs.. sanjay dixit🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@Rakshita442kyunki woh bajayega is hoodbhoy ki
@@devvratmishra9000 🤣🤣🤣 sahi bola bhai issi liye
AIM was trying hard to defend his friend. His arguments were not up to the mark. But still hearing different perspectives is a good thing.
*Negative Identity of Pakistanis*
I am Not Hindu
I am Not Indian
I am Not Punjabi
I am Not Sikh
I am Not Shia
I am Not Ahmadi
I am Not Sindhi
I am Not Balochi
I am Not Pashtun
I am Not Ajlafi
I am Not Mujahir
Pakistanis should Stop the Drama that they are the Aulads of Turks or Arabs or Mongols.
Pakistanis are also Hindustanis.
Afghans are also Hindustanis.
Balochs are also Hindustanis.
Bengalis are Hindustanis.
Punjabis are Hindustanis.
Sri Lankan are Hindustanis.
Maldives are Hindustanis.
🙏🏽🇮🇳🙏🏽
High quality podcast ❤
you both are great to analyse different reference❤❤
Dinosaurs were pakistanis. But, then endian killed dinosaur but dinosaur managed to survive by trasferign gene to human and then human became pakistani. Even unicorn were pakistanis
Wow, AIM is the best. All time Big fan.❤
Are simple saudi mai mandir mila hai all pakistani claim busted 😂 and tell pakistanis to say that ramayan and mahabharat is theirs which are older than arabs
I used to like Pervez but few things changed my opinion about him.
He suffers from Kushal what you call ‘Abrhamic Privilege Syndrome’ when it comes to Hindus.
AIM burping a lot, Kushal did you feed him Poha a lot?
Sirs,don't bother what Professor Saheb says about India in his latest book. He is making a case for Pakistani audience as a liberal,secularist,highly educated intellectual. His emphasis on education is remarkable. He is a rare type of Pakistani.
earlier i used to believe hudboy was intelligent,but one thing i noticed through this podcast and learn his book, he has read just single narrative on particular topic which is mostly suggested by western scholars who themselves has particular narrative and agendas..this proves pakistanis dont read much and do proper research even their so called biggest experts..but atleast he is open to discussion unlike other so called pakistani expert but still needed to see his debate with expert with different narrative
Why compare with Pakistan? For religious difference? Compare with China for their tech minds, gdp, jobs, inventions.
Riga Veda may be written in Punjab haryana region but Maharishi Veda Vyas was not from that region , he was born in an island (river side) near Yamuna river in UP and his father Maharishi Parashar also was born in UP and so was his great grand father Maharishi vashisht .
Rigveda time was in alignment with present Afghanistan, even river mentioned in it lies there, later Rigveda mentions ganga valley
So Hinduism is a religion of North Indians? So basically, it is as Foreign to Kerala, Chattisgarh, Orissa, Assam as much as Islam and Christianity is. Thanks for endorsing it.
Saraswati is in Afghanistan. It originates in Ghazni province and flows through helmand province. It is now called Argandarwdab (arv-ghandharv-aab - river of Gandharvas) and was called Harhavati in old iranian texts. Thats saraswati in its sister language sanskrit.
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Harhavati is not even a river but a rivulet joining Helmund. Whereas Saraswati is a mighty river. Saraswati is not just mentioned in but in Mahabharata too, which depicts it as a mighty river flowing from Himalayas to ocean.
Hoodbhai is physicist and talking like a historian
With my Kashmiri side of family and eating meat is compulsory for us ? Eating meat is not compulsory for any Kashmiri HINDU family . He is making it look like as if Kashmiri Hindu it is a strict mandate to eat meat.
Cannot disrespect my Kashmiri lineage by watching lies about my culture.
Bhai it is, Seen many kashmiri familes living besides me in Noida
10:46 Romilla Thapar 🤣🤣🤣🤣
These hindu haters are never gonna come in any debate with knowledgeable Hindu nationalist