@@VainFriggus I honestly agree, but if an anime can show the characters actually being able to do large scale stuff instead of telling (like gurren lagan) then I would be more inclined.
@@VainFriggusnot so sure. Boros in OPM would get flattened by saiyan saga vegeta with zero difficulty, but visually, it looked like Boros would run circles around him. In DBZ, the audience is basically given the eyes of godlike characters whereas in other anime, the audience has bystander eyes in many cases.
@@courvethe fight wouldn’t be easy tbh it might go either way bc vegeta was only planet level in attack potency at the time and boros core is stronger than that it took multiple punches from saitama and his series punch was star level in attack potency bc boros was already about to break his limit until saitama killed him also Boros destroyed planets just to get to earth and fight saitama
Sukuna AND Gojo need their strongest moves to destroy portions of Shibuya & Shinjuku and caps at MHS+. Maybe relativistic at best considering the EM Waves feat has been debunked and they don't move as fast as they would in a vacuum. And it's already arguably aim-dodging. Any OPM mid-tier (Carnage Kabuto, G4 Genos, Black Sperm, Homeless Emperor, Evil Ocean Water, Monster Garou) curbstomps him via feats and the massive gap in stats or AP/DC that Sukuna can't hope to contend with WITHOUT his Domain. Inb4 "muh Spatial Slash" that Yuta manages to survive long enough to have his brain transferred and Maki, who is Hypersonic at best, can react and dodge easily, or his normal Cleaves/Dismantles that the likes of Gojo can tank within the Domain Expansion long enough to activate Simple Domain. And Sukuna ain't planetary. What Yuki does with the Black Hole is something exclusive to her thanks to how her Cursed Technique works. Sukuna & Gojo are blatantly shown to not come close to that level. Hell, they're not even mountain level by feats and stats, let alone planetary.
Tbh as a jjk fan I agree with a decent amount of stuff here. There some things u left out/aren’t even taking into account tho. First Em waves move 99% SoL so saying they don’t move light speed in a vacuum is negligible. Didn’t even have to say it. There are also multiple ways u can interpret Sukuna either moving relative to the em wave nd at the very least having light speed reaction. Although I agree some are iffy. U say mid tiers are wiping the floor with Sukuna without his domain cuz Sukuna lacks ap/dc. Did u forget about the WCS😂😂. It will quite literally affect anyone outside of Saitama or God in the verse. Garou is pry fine against it too. But that slash alone kills carnage kabuto, Genos Black S, etc. no domain needed. Yuta needed rika nd shoko to survive space slash nd he still dies. U say maki is hypersonic yet she reacts and blocks lightning. U kinda be disingenuous. Nd lastly youre only taking dc into account, not ap or hax. Ap wise Sukuna can harm 99% of the opm verse. Gojo has hax that also clears most of the verse. Let’s not act like they are fodder to OPM lol OPM vers didn’t that crazy
@@tjadams98Sukuna and Gojo has area of affect skills and hax that carries large DC but their own physical bodies are at best Deep Sea King level and even that is if i an being generous enough. If you wanna count every bs feat and hyperball sukuna and gojo and then we can just look at the weakest Genos's mountain level feat who is lowest S Class level and becomes much much more stronger than start of series Genos. Any High Demon and above character in OPM can fight at, react and dodge at Relativistic+ level of speeds pretty easily while Gojo and Sukuna needed to high balled to be even scaled to these High Demons. Gojo with his Infinity is worthy enough to do a VS Battle with OMP verse but Sukuna without such a cheat level Ability is just not enough to be ranked above Low Dragon bcz characters at that level just has some insane durablity, ap and speed that hard stomps Sukuna and his only chance of hurting Dragon level beings are World Slash but that attack takes too long to cast for Dragon level character's reaction speed and they would just outright behead him the moment they see him try cast the World Cutting Slash
@ wdym count every bs feat lol. If u think it’s bs cuz it’s so far above the verse then it’s actually consistent, as both Gojo nd Sukuna have been stated nd shown multiple times to be far above the verse. Idk what bs ur referring to. U scaling early genos to mountain means nothing cuz jjk characters will never have the physical stats that opm characters do. They just have superior Hax (in most cases) nd that’s what makes this a conversation. It’s not a highball for Sukuna or Gojo to be that strong nd I mentioned why up there. Now I agree that Sukuna pry stops around low dragon cuz of speed difference (depending on matchup). U only talk about speed nd strength, does battle iq mean anything to u? Really speed is the only issue. Durability means nothing due to WCS. Nd how are monsters suppose to know the WCS is even coming? How can they sense it? They wouldn’t even know what hit them.
@tjadams98 Would battle IQ help the massive gap in power? And yes Monster's don't know what the WCS is most Monster's won't be able to sense the danger of that attack but that means absolutely nothing bcz Monster's in OMP are very aggressive and violent so the moment the fight starts they will go for the kill and with the sheer difference in durablity, speed and ap Sukuna will get one shot instantly against any stronger Dragon Level Monster's As for the Hax you just said about, Sukuna doesn't really have a very poeerful Hax type ability except for WCS unlike Gojo who has Purple, Infinity and Infinite Void which are sure kill abilities that can allow him to defeat opponents many times stronger than him.
I feel like even deep sea king would give Sukuna a decent fight.. Sukuna would probably ultimately win, but deep sea king would definitely land blows. He gave Genos a hard fight
human garou prob....like he's much faster....and seeing how much weaker maki was to weakened sukuna and human garou at full strength being equal to genos in my opinion, Garou should be able to defeat both of them at once
Hey Yacine. I always liked how fair u were to verses even if u didn’t agree. Especially wit jjk there’s a lot of wank. But why do u think the verses ap should cap at Jogos level? What sense does that make? Yuta was compared by yuji to 15f Sukuna. We saw the gap between yuta nd 20f. Why would his FP not be a huge jump? Plus getting his original body? Do u think there’s a possibility that Jogos meteor has the dc of small town, but higher ap than small town?
Been done. OPM verse embarrassed them. The top-tier Viltrumites have to band together to destroy a destabilized planet. They're Boros/Monster Garou victims.
Invincible clears up until you get to characters like Boros, Orochi, Monster Garou etc. They do have good speed scaling but lack good destruction feats.
@@thechadlordboros Considering that Mark and Allen get significantly more powerful, I wonder how their end of series versions would match up. (Obviously, they don't really have feats)
@ Oh, you didn't hear? That anti-feat that was extremely important to the plot doesn't count because a solar disk they have zero scaling to has one outlier calc.
My man sukuna isn’t even remotely on the radar of the OPM verse. However the island scaling does in fact make sense, since almost always creation feats are = more or less.
Honestly if Sukuna were in the OPM universe and had the Garou treatment I believe he'd skyrocket further more. But in no way is he reaching characters like Orochi without getting obliterated. If he had the same amount if plot armour of Garou then maybe.
@@YacineScales why wouldn’t Sukuna be able to react? He was casually fighting lightning+ kashimo nd at the very least can react to em waves if not move relative. Nd u know Sukuna can heal right? Why do u think a blitz is all it’ll take?
@@tjadams98 why does it matter if he can heal if he gets one shotted ?? did you not watch the video and came straight to comment ? he outscales him in everything .
@@hellfireofheaven yeah I watched and enjoyed the video. He gets one shotted if deep sea king goes for the head. That’s it. He can literally heal everything else. What’s hard to understand about that? Nd again, I was asking Yacine how he’d even get perception blitzed in the first place.
Sukuna would be a low demon-level threat. But I think he'd make it far with his possession ability. Imagine him controlling Dark Shine's or Garou's body.
Problem is Sukuna’s fingers kill anyone who isn’t built to consume them or has some way to circumvent it (Yuji was made to be a Vessel and Rika’s remnant is a Shikigami), it works like a lethal poison, though maybe they could survive it. If Sukuna does get into their body, he can’t really do anything since he needs them at their weakest or incapacitated to take over, not to mention they’d have only one consumed finger.
@@Bigchickenburger Especially considering what Human Garou was able to survive while heavily injured, including being poisoned for almost the entire time.
yeah thats not the topic of this video but you are write sukuna is better written than most opm monsters. considering most of them is just monsters that suddenly pop up
You should consider that Sukuna's cuts can affect the soul, that would be enough to knock anyone off guard, but well, he would still take blitz and one shot
JJK is one of my favourite but some fans ruins it by going to videos and saying gojo beat this that I like it not because how strong gojo is but cause it actually have good story or may be I just like depressing anime like AOT
TL;DR, Demon vs Dragon More detailed: Darkshine is stated able to one-shot Deep Sea King and has shown he can against other Demons stronger than DSK. Gouketsu was stated stronger than anything Genos had seen, which includes Darkshine's near-full power in a simulation against Carnage Kabuto.
Note: The Monster Tiers ar not determined on a Monster's Power but rather on thier destruction The amount of destruction they cause is what the Monster's tier is based on This is Why Boros is Titled Dragon Level even tho he can legit obliterate a damn star which Murata himself said he's above Dragon So yes using the argument Demon = City level is baseless and false Also another note not all Cities are country level heck Mumen rider was able to cross two large cities in mins meaning either he was traveling at MHS+ speed or the world in OPM is small AF Whichever you chose is not wrong
While I agree on paper, Deep Sea King is actually a fairly mid Demon, and he survived mountain-level blasts from Genos despite fire being his specific weakness. So most mid-high Demons should be above city level by scaling anyway.
I think you'll don't know that ap and dc are not same, ap can be higher than dc, jogo's maximum meteor has large town lvl dc but ap is probably more than that and we don't know whether it will hurt Sukuna or not bc Sukuna always likes to glaze his opponents so creation feat is still fair
It's pretty funny bcz Sukuna is a demon level threat, but he could kill Cosmic Garou if he let himself get hit by the World Cutting Slash. Only saitama and God can b*tch slap ts.
Could he incinerate the cells of Black S with divine flame? He could use dismantle and cleave, in his domain expansion then use divine flame to incinerate the cells
People who say Sukuna is planet level but Boros is only multi-continental are proof that not everyone is created equal.
lmao
Man, who tf saying sukuna is planetary??😭😭
@@ichiban6769I don’t know but there are always people who boast their favorite anime.
The fact that opm's earth is much more larger
@ichiban6769 it's because of yuki's blackhole feat and jjk scalers are dumb sometimes
Sukuna would probably crawl his ass back to his own realm after hearing king engine
Sukuna is like the Homelander of anime. He's ridiculously overpowered in his own verse but gets bent over damn near instantly outside of it.
I think anime should stay small scale like JJK more often than such large scale like Dragon Ball
@@VainFriggus I honestly agree, but if an anime can show the characters actually being able to do large scale stuff instead of telling (like gurren lagan) then I would be more inclined.
@@VainFriggusnot so sure. Boros in OPM would get flattened by saiyan saga vegeta with zero difficulty, but visually, it looked like Boros would run circles around him. In DBZ, the audience is basically given the eyes of godlike characters whereas in other anime, the audience has bystander eyes in many cases.
@@courvethe fight wouldn’t be easy tbh it might go either way bc vegeta was only planet level in attack potency at the time and boros core is stronger than that it took multiple punches from saitama and his series punch was star level in attack potency bc boros was already about to break his limit until saitama killed him also Boros destroyed planets just to get to earth and fight saitama
Who is suggesting jjk vs opm scaling? Cadres outscale insanely in literally every category except in some cases possibly hax
Sukuna AND Gojo need their strongest moves to destroy portions of Shibuya & Shinjuku and caps at MHS+. Maybe relativistic at best considering the EM Waves feat has been debunked and they don't move as fast as they would in a vacuum. And it's already arguably aim-dodging.
Any OPM mid-tier (Carnage Kabuto, G4 Genos, Black Sperm, Homeless Emperor, Evil Ocean Water, Monster Garou) curbstomps him via feats and the massive gap in stats or AP/DC that Sukuna can't hope to contend with WITHOUT his Domain.
Inb4 "muh Spatial Slash" that Yuta manages to survive long enough to have his brain transferred and Maki, who is Hypersonic at best, can react and dodge easily, or his normal Cleaves/Dismantles that the likes of Gojo can tank within the Domain Expansion long enough to activate Simple Domain.
And Sukuna ain't planetary. What Yuki does with the Black Hole is something exclusive to her thanks to how her Cursed Technique works. Sukuna & Gojo are blatantly shown to not come close to that level. Hell, they're not even mountain level by feats and stats, let alone planetary.
Tbh as a jjk fan I agree with a decent amount of stuff here. There some things u left out/aren’t even taking into account tho. First Em waves move 99% SoL so saying they don’t move light speed in a vacuum is negligible. Didn’t even have to say it. There are also multiple ways u can interpret Sukuna either moving relative to the em wave nd at the very least having light speed reaction.
Although I agree some are iffy.
U say mid tiers are wiping the floor with Sukuna without his domain cuz Sukuna lacks ap/dc. Did u forget about the WCS😂😂. It will quite literally affect anyone outside of Saitama or God in the verse. Garou is pry fine against it too. But that slash alone kills carnage kabuto, Genos Black S, etc. no domain needed.
Yuta needed rika nd shoko to survive space slash nd he still dies. U say maki is hypersonic yet she reacts and blocks lightning. U kinda be disingenuous.
Nd lastly youre only taking dc into account, not ap or hax. Ap wise Sukuna can harm 99% of the opm verse. Gojo has hax that also clears most of the verse. Let’s not act like they are fodder to OPM lol OPM vers didn’t that crazy
@@tjadams98Sukuna and Gojo has area of affect skills and hax that carries large DC but their own physical bodies are at best Deep Sea King level and even that is if i an being generous enough.
If you wanna count every bs feat and hyperball sukuna and gojo and then we can just look at the weakest Genos's mountain level feat who is lowest S Class level and becomes much much more stronger than start of series Genos.
Any High Demon and above character in OPM can fight at, react and dodge at Relativistic+ level of speeds pretty easily while Gojo and Sukuna needed to high balled to be even scaled to these High Demons.
Gojo with his Infinity is worthy enough to do a VS Battle with OMP verse but Sukuna without such a cheat level Ability is just not enough to be ranked above Low Dragon bcz characters at that level just has some insane durablity, ap and speed that hard stomps Sukuna and his only chance of hurting Dragon level beings are World Slash but that attack takes too long to cast for Dragon level character's reaction speed and they would just outright behead him the moment they see him try cast the World Cutting Slash
@ wdym count every bs feat lol. If u think it’s bs cuz it’s so far above the verse then it’s actually consistent, as both Gojo nd Sukuna have been stated nd shown multiple times to be far above the verse. Idk what bs ur referring to.
U scaling early genos to mountain means nothing cuz jjk characters will never have the physical stats that opm characters do. They just have superior Hax (in most cases) nd that’s what makes this a conversation.
It’s not a highball for Sukuna or Gojo to be that strong nd I mentioned why up there. Now I agree that Sukuna pry stops around low dragon cuz of speed difference (depending on matchup). U only talk about speed nd strength, does battle iq mean anything to u?
Really speed is the only issue. Durability means nothing due to WCS. Nd how are monsters suppose to know the WCS is even coming? How can they sense it? They wouldn’t even know what hit them.
Evil Ocean water is not mid tier
@tjadams98 Would battle IQ help the massive gap in power?
And yes Monster's don't know what the WCS is most Monster's won't be able to sense the danger of that attack but that means absolutely nothing bcz Monster's in OMP are very aggressive and violent so the moment the fight starts they will go for the kill and with the sheer difference in durablity, speed and ap Sukuna will get one shot instantly against any stronger Dragon Level Monster's
As for the Hax you just said about, Sukuna doesn't really have a very poeerful Hax type ability except for WCS unlike Gojo who has Purple, Infinity and Infinite Void which are sure kill abilities that can allow him to defeat opponents many times stronger than him.
The speed is among the best in most verses , even low tier characters are fast af
I feel like even deep sea king would give Sukuna a decent fight.. Sukuna would probably ultimately win, but deep sea king would definitely land blows. He gave Genos a hard fight
Realistically the deep sea king would only lose to the World slash.
@@YacineScalesdon't forget about his domain expansion as will
dsk was hugely buffed, i mean he just uses brute strength and durability stuff and man destroyed a cyborg that incinerates mountains
@@YacineScales don't forget about his domain expansion to
He literally said he wld regen from those slashes💀@redx427
Human Garou vs Maki, Toji and Quanix
human garou prob....like he's much faster....and seeing how much weaker maki was to weakened sukuna and human garou at full strength being equal to genos in my opinion, Garou should be able to defeat both of them at once
Bro you trolling or what. Garou no doubt slams all of them
Tbh that's an interesting fight. They get blitsed in speed no doubt but toji would at least have a chance with soul split katana.
@@CarnisonVoidnope garou is beast
Deep Sea King victims
Hey Yacine. I always liked how fair u were to verses even if u didn’t agree. Especially wit jjk there’s a lot of wank.
But why do u think the verses ap should cap at Jogos level? What sense does that make? Yuta was compared by yuji to 15f Sukuna. We saw the gap between yuta nd 20f. Why would his FP not be a huge jump? Plus getting his original body?
Do u think there’s a possibility that Jogos meteor has the dc of small town, but higher ap than small town?
Invincible Verse vs One Punch Man Verse.
Been done. OPM verse embarrassed them. The top-tier Viltrumites have to band together to destroy a destabilized planet. They're Boros/Monster Garou victims.
Invincible clears up until you get to characters like Boros, Orochi, Monster Garou etc. They do have good speed scaling but lack good destruction feats.
@@thechadlordboros Considering that Mark and Allen get significantly more powerful, I wonder how their end of series versions would match up. (Obviously, they don't really have feats)
@ Oh, you didn't hear? That anti-feat that was extremely important to the plot doesn't count because a solar disk they have zero scaling to has one outlier calc.
@@lordcypher5889Arguably stronger than thragg but for sure still far below star level so not much.
In my opinion he could do well till the Dragon level disaster, but he gets ultimately destroyed at above dragon level.
My man sukuna isn’t even remotely on the radar of the OPM verse. However the island scaling does in fact make sense, since almost always creation feats are = more or less.
Yeah! Thank you!!
I think he'd be mid Demon Level. He'd basically just hard stop at Phoenix man.
Thank you for making this videos 🔥✊🏻
next lille baro bird form(angel form) vs opm monster
Honestly if Sukuna were in the OPM universe and had the Garou treatment I believe he'd skyrocket further more.
But in no way is he reaching characters like Orochi without getting obliterated.
If he had the same amount if plot armour of Garou then maybe.
Garou in the god of highscool tournament pls!
The only way I see him winning is he tries to get another body then just keep building up and getting a stronger stronger body
The way he says "wanking" is really funny😂
i feel like a highballed sukuna would fit super well into the opm verse
Sukuna gonna use his malevolent shrine and saitama just gonna sit there eating noodles while it’s happening
You also underestimate Sukuna world cutting slash. While will he stress himself to fight deep sea king if he can instantly slash him ?
Deep sea king is already superior in speed, why would the deep sea king not blitz him ? it's in his character.
@@YacineScales why wouldn’t Sukuna be able to react? He was casually fighting lightning+ kashimo nd at the very least can react to em waves if not move relative. Nd u know Sukuna can heal right? Why do u think a blitz is all it’ll take?
@@tjadams98 why does it matter if he can heal if he gets one shotted ?? did you not watch the video and came straight to comment ? he outscales him in everything .
@@hellfireofheaven yeah I watched and enjoyed the video. He gets one shotted if deep sea king goes for the head. That’s it. He can literally heal everything else. What’s hard to understand about that? Nd again, I was asking Yacine how he’d even get perception blitzed in the first place.
Sukuna would be a low demon-level threat.
But I think he'd make it far with his possession ability.
Imagine him controlling Dark Shine's or Garou's body.
They won't let him
Problem is Sukuna’s fingers kill anyone who isn’t built to consume them or has some way to circumvent it (Yuji was made to be a Vessel and Rika’s remnant is a Shikigami), it works like a lethal poison, though maybe they could survive it. If Sukuna does get into their body, he can’t really do anything since he needs them at their weakest or incapacitated to take over, not to mention they’d have only one consumed finger.
@@GIO-oo8vl i don't think those fingers are strong enough to kill darkshine or garou
@@Bigchickenburger I mean if they have resistance to poisons they’d live for sure.
@@Bigchickenburger Especially considering what Human Garou was able to survive while heavily injured, including being poisoned for almost the entire time.
16:06 black s would dog sukuna so hard that it isnt even close
he will be the next sukuna sandbag after atomic sandbag xd
I love Sukuna is way better as a character than any of these monsters.
yeah thats not the topic of this video
but you are write sukuna is better written than most opm monsters. considering most of them is just monsters that suddenly pop up
@@Tonamishesh I don't care, this is a comment section I can write where the hell I want.
one is a antagonist and the others are side characters . what do you expect . i would say opm has done good with their characters.
What about Sukuna weirdly high levels of bs luck-
I mean *binding* *vows*
This shouldn't even be a debate lol, even awakened cockroach defeats sukuna.
You should consider that Sukuna's cuts can affect the soul, that would be enough to knock anyone off guard, but well, he would still take blitz and one shot
Phoenix Man obliterates him
Please add shigeo kageyama in one of your videos.. how far would he go as a hero in opm?
JJK is one of my favourite but some fans ruins it by going to videos and saying gojo beat this that I like it not because how strong gojo is but cause it actually have good story or may be I just like depressing anime like AOT
Also quick question, would deep sea king win against gouketsu?
No
TL;DR, Demon vs Dragon
More detailed: Darkshine is stated able to one-shot Deep Sea King and has shown he can against other Demons stronger than DSK.
Gouketsu was stated stronger than anything Genos had seen, which includes Darkshine's near-full power in a simulation against Carnage Kabuto.
Masterpiece thumbnail XDDDD
Thing is it depends on how strong is sukuna’s world cutting slash negation
Note: The Monster Tiers ar not determined on a Monster's Power but rather on thier destruction
The amount of destruction they cause is what the Monster's tier is based on
This is Why Boros is Titled Dragon Level even tho he can legit obliterate a damn star which Murata himself said he's above Dragon
So yes using the argument
Demon = City level is baseless and false
Also another note not all Cities are country level heck Mumen rider was able to cross two large cities in mins meaning either he was traveling at MHS+ speed or the world in OPM is small AF
Whichever you chose is not wrong
While I agree on paper, Deep Sea King is actually a fairly mid Demon, and he survived mountain-level blasts from Genos despite fire being his specific weakness. So most mid-high Demons should be above city level by scaling anyway.
W yac
I think you'll don't know that ap and dc are not same, ap can be higher than dc, jogo's maximum meteor has large town lvl dc but ap is probably more than that and we don't know whether it will hurt Sukuna or not bc Sukuna always likes to glaze his opponents so creation feat is still fair
It's pretty funny bcz Sukuna is a demon level threat, but he could kill Cosmic Garou if he let himself get hit by the World Cutting Slash. Only saitama and God can b*tch slap ts.
cockroaches monster would solo jjk (beside gojo limitless)
Overkill*
Could he incinerate the cells of Black S with divine flame?
He could use dismantle and cleave, in his domain expansion then use divine flame to incinerate the cells
Please do Godzilla Earth vs OPM Monsters 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ain't no way some people think that sukuna wins against Black S
IF YOU MANGA MATCHUPS WHY OPM, NOT OTHERS?
He not crossing mid dragon level monster👍👍
Even low level demon
sukuna vs the tensen
Sukuna wouldn't make it passed season 2 man
sukuna- max big city
demon level monsters- city-big city for sure
dragon level monsters-multipple citys
why is this even a question huh
Is that all that determines a battle? Who’s able to destroy a larger city? Lmao
@tjadams98 sure if you want to see all the other scalings I can provide
Human garou negs sukuna
Akuma vs Sukuna
Saitama vs sukuna bro
You forgot to include the Infinite adapting hax of mahoraga
Most OPM characters are going to one shot Mahoraga before he gets a chance to adapt.
Someone didn't watch the video. He explained there's zero evidence they're unlimited or fast enough to handle such a vast power gap.
Phoenix man: 🗿
the video : ....
Yac
wYAc
uh sukuna vs the opm universe doesnt seem the most fair
He could not beat God
Dude can't even beat G4 Genos, let alone GOD.
sukuna win high dif,
Yac