@PrviMart83 Otto, too, faced several attempts to kill him in his life. For those who don't understand German I want to translate that Otto got some kind of letter before his trip to Sarajewo. In this letter the Serbian Cetniks threatened him: "We will get you, too". Otto had this letter in is pocket all the time during his visit in Sarajewo. They did not get him. The Lord called him on July 4th, the day before yesterday. He will get his awards where he is now.
Correction: The US went to war in WW I because there was much pressure from people like Teddy Roosevelt and because Wilson (an Anglophile) had been informed that Britain could not last another 3 months without seeking an armistice! What a terrible thing! We helped prolong a war as did Clemenceau who refused Kaiser Karl's feeler for an armistice in 1917. Wilson was ingenuous and though Europe was a Simple patchwork of nationalities, but it was not, so he helped destroy Central Europe.
There was an additional factor. The Tsar abdicated in March 1917 and it was feared that Russia would fail to stay in the war. By entering the war in April of 1917 the USA assured the allies that they would be able to replace the Russian effort should Russia make a separate peace. Once Lenin came to power in October of 1917 that is exactly what happened. The USA had decided long before 1917 not to allow any hegemon to rule Europe. Entering WWI was a foregone conclusion once Russia reached the point of exhaustion.
@samk1101 He visits the places which Archeduke Franz Ferdinand had been. When he is asked if the killing of the Archeduke was an assasination, an act of terrorism, he answers "Yes, it was". Franz Ferdinand's great-grandson at the end of the film says he is a christian so he forgives the murderers.
Yes, and Masaryk forgot that he had millions of German speakers as well as the hundreds of thousands of Slovaks, Hungarians, and Ruthernians, as well as a few thousand Poles. Benes threatened Hungary if they would dare to restore Karl to the throne of that country, interfering in the internal affairs of Hungary. Hitler put an end to their illusions, unfortunately. Division = weakness. Thank you for your comment. My regards.
@@alfa447 Die gesamte Weltgemeinschaft hat die Annexion anerkannt. Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand hatte nichts mit der Bosnienannexion zu tun. Er war nie "Imperator". Deswegen frage ich was hat er bzw. seine Frau bitte so schreckliches verbrochen?
Verstehe! Danke für die prompte Antwort! Und nun nerve ich nochmal, da es mir scheint, als würdest Du einiges darüber wissen: Wo kann man das nachlesen? Für den Fall, dass Du es hier nicht öffentlich schreiben möchtest, würde ich darum bitten es mir über die Profilpost zu senden, falls möglich! Danke im Voraus ;-) P.S.: Klärung - ich bin KEINESWEGS an Vorurteilen interessiert, schon gar nicht ideologisch verbrämten! Mich interessiert tatsächlich was "nicht bekannt" ist! Weißt Du mehr? Gruß
Rotebuehl1 Otto did not go to Serbia and the Serbian people, to apologize for the many crimes&robberies, committed by the AH army. Especially on the civilian population. That's what you don't know.
So did I understand well? Have they changed the memorial to say assassination instead of some nationalist bogus or was it the other way around ? My german is really poor.
Yes, it will be 100 years in a little over 2 years. Terrible date and terrible destiny. Narrow ethnic ambitions helped destroy a united central Europe under the Habsburgs. Moreover, the Archduke with his Czech consort was disposed to advancing the cause of Slavic peoples within the dual monarchy. What a difference that would have made. After WW I, the splintered ethnic groups vied against one another instead of With one another as they would have under the Habsburgs.
@@ladygodiva9461 Zeit nehmen und mehrmals lesen. Die Abhaengigkeiten der Staaten, die geschichtlichen Hintergruende. Das Buch ist extrem uebergreifend und gibt ein gutes Gesamtbild der Zeit vor dem 1. Weltkrieg.
@@marialana3502 habe ich von meinem Ex Chef bekommen. Auch das Buch "Der Krieg der viele Väter hatte oder Das tschechisch deutsche Drama 1918-1939.Errichtung und Zusammenbruch eines Vielvoelkerstaates als Vorspiel zum Zweiten Weltkrieg von Gerd Schultze Rhonhof.Sehr interessant.👋
Actually the greatest disaster that created the basis for WW1 was the supreme stupidity of Kaiser Willie as he 1) was the favorite nephew of Queen Victoria, this still pretty influential 2) had an extremely well run if militaristic state 3) that same state had pensions, healthcare and public works WAY AHEAD if anything anywhere in Europe 3) obviously great armed forces.... had he USED his brain he could have became THE MEDIATOR as he was cousin of King George, the Czar and THE most influential person alive in THAT moment.. he could have MADE "EUROPE" literally one hundred years ago... unfortunately he did not....
You make some fine points. The question is how much ability did Kaiser Wilhelm have to make policy. The Imperial German General Staff were gung ho for war. The Kaiser's big mistake was giving the " blank cheque" to Emperor Franz Jozef to deal with Serbia as he pleased. Austria pushed too hard on Serbia and would not have declared war on Serbia if Imperial Germany did not have its back.
@Eternaldream00 Right after the assassination a beautiful memorial column was built near the bridge which is just across the street. After 1918 the column or were there two columns (not sure) were destroyed by the Serbs.1918-1941 The Serbs then put a nationalist memorial on the wall.1941-1945 In WW2 the Wehrmacht took it down. There are even videos of that moment. After the war the communist put the Serb nationalist memorial up again 45-92. Somewhere after 96 a new neutral memorial was created.
Ja lieber Otto von Habsburg , wäre dein Vater nicht so labil gewesen und hätte Rückgrat gezeigt, gegenüber Wilhelm den 2. ,dann....würde dein konservatives bzw. reaktionäres Gelaber heut noch interessieren. ...
Eigentlich wollte Kaiser Wilhelm II. keinen Krieg. Letztlich überschlugen sich nach dem Attentat von Sarajewo die Ereignisse und die Welt schlitterte in die Urkatastrophe des 20. Jahrhunderts. Österreich wollte den Krieg gegen Serbien, obgleich Serbien alle Bedingungen erfüllte.
Die wollten doch alle den Krieg da oben. Auch mit dem Hintergrund dass alles kaputt geht, Endlich vom Absolutismus frei zu kommen war dem kleinen Volk wichtiger. Gottes Gnadentum, die Überheblichkeit allein ist schon Sünde.
@PrviMart83
Otto, too, faced several attempts to kill him in his life. For those who don't understand German I want to translate that Otto got some kind of letter before his trip to Sarajewo. In this letter the Serbian Cetniks threatened him: "We will get you, too". Otto had this letter in is pocket all the time during his visit in Sarajewo.
They did not get him. The Lord called him on July 4th, the day before yesterday. He will get his awards where he is now.
Danke Dir fürs Hochladen. Ein wahrlich großer Mann den man sich zum Vorbild nehmen kann.
Okupator als vorbild???Was macht Franz Ferdinand in Bosnien???
@@alfa447Lüge! Er war nie auf dem Thron und hat nichts okkupiert.🤦 Bilde dich erstmal.
Memory Eternal to Archduke Franz Ferdinand and Sophie!!
Correction: The US went to war in WW I because there was much pressure from people like Teddy Roosevelt and because Wilson (an Anglophile) had been informed that Britain could not last another 3 months without seeking an armistice! What a terrible thing! We helped prolong a war as did Clemenceau who refused Kaiser Karl's feeler for an armistice in 1917. Wilson was ingenuous and though Europe was a Simple patchwork of nationalities, but it was not, so he helped destroy Central Europe.
There was an additional factor. The Tsar abdicated in March 1917 and it was feared that Russia would fail to stay in the war. By entering the war in April of 1917 the USA assured the allies that they would be able to replace the Russian effort should Russia make a separate peace. Once Lenin came to power in October of 1917 that is exactly what happened. The USA had decided long before 1917 not to allow any hegemon to rule Europe. Entering WWI was a foregone conclusion once Russia reached the point of exhaustion.
Respect from Bulgaria ❤❤❤
@samk1101
He visits the places which Archeduke Franz Ferdinand had been. When he is asked if the killing of the Archeduke was an assasination, an act of terrorism, he answers "Yes, it was". Franz Ferdinand's great-grandson at the end of the film says he is a christian so he forgives the murderers.
Quick! Life or death question: what is 73 divided by 7 - 4.1? You have 20 seconds to answer, starting now.
Fur Kaiser ,Fur Österreich ,Fur Bosnien ❤️ deine treue Bosniaken
Yes, and Masaryk forgot that he had millions of German speakers as well as the hundreds of thousands of Slovaks, Hungarians, and Ruthernians, as well as a few thousand Poles. Benes threatened Hungary if they would dare to restore Karl to the throne of that country, interfering in the internal affairs of Hungary. Hitler put an end to their illusions, unfortunately. Division = weakness. Thank you for your comment. My regards.
Die österreichische Nostalgie ist förmlich spürbar.
Naja, warum auch nicht......
Oesterreichs Geschichte, ist nun einmal Habsburger Familiengeschichte. Wir koennen ja nicht tun, als wearen wir bis 1918 nicht existent gewesen.
@San Lucar welcher Kaiser umgebracht?
@@OCD6019 Otto is the biggest Serbophobe and he was a great anti Yugoslav.
13:35, the Crypt of Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sofie.
@IngoHuber Thank you very much.
Toleranz und Verständnis….that the right Behaivior
He met with Emperor Franz Joseph and lived to see Google and 9/11. Amazing!
"Die Serben"? Was bedeutet das? Alle Serben zusammen oder wie, oder was...? Und was heißt eigentlich "wieder einmal"? Ich bin gespannt...
Correction: It was not Clemenceau who refused Kaiser Karl's peace feeler. Also I meant "thought" instead of "though Europe" etc. Verzeisen. Pardon.
Always remember.....es ist schon bald 100 Jahre her.
Okupator als vorbild???Was macht Franz Ferdinand in Bosnien???
Er besuchte ein Land innerhalb der Donaumonarchie. Wo ist das Problem?
@@Suedama1804 Anexieren land und dann besuchen....Imperator wie Napoleon.Du hast Problem...
@@alfa447 Die gesamte Weltgemeinschaft hat die Annexion anerkannt. Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand hatte nichts mit der Bosnienannexion zu tun. Er war nie "Imperator".
Deswegen frage ich was hat er bzw. seine Frau bitte so schreckliches verbrochen?
@@Suedama1804 Ich komme zum dir nach Hause und annexiere dein Haus,dann wird dir alles klar.Gesamte Weltgemeinschaft .....Amerika und UK......Vatikan.
@@alfa447Du sprechen schlecht
Verstehe! Danke für die prompte Antwort! Und nun nerve ich nochmal, da es mir scheint, als würdest Du einiges darüber wissen:
Wo kann man das nachlesen? Für den Fall, dass Du es hier nicht öffentlich schreiben möchtest, würde ich darum bitten es mir über die Profilpost zu senden, falls möglich!
Danke im Voraus ;-)
P.S.: Klärung - ich bin KEINESWEGS an Vorurteilen interessiert, schon gar nicht ideologisch verbrämten! Mich interessiert tatsächlich was "nicht bekannt" ist! Weißt Du mehr?
Gruß
Rotebuehl1 Otto did not go to Serbia and the Serbian people, to apologize for the many crimes&robberies, committed by the AH army. Especially on the civilian population. That's what you don't know.
Why do I hear Boss music?
@Eternaldream00 they changed the memorial plate, first it was a gloryfiing text for the assassination, now its not.
Long live the Emperor of Austria.
So did I understand well? Have they changed the memorial to say assassination instead of some nationalist bogus or was it the other way around ? My german is really poor.
Yes, it will be 100 years in a little over 2 years. Terrible date and terrible destiny. Narrow ethnic ambitions helped destroy a united central Europe under the Habsburgs. Moreover, the Archduke with his Czech consort was disposed to advancing the cause of Slavic peoples within the dual monarchy. What a difference that would have made. After WW I, the splintered ethnic groups vied against one another instead of With one another as they would have under the Habsburgs.
2:18, the son of Franz Ferdinand.
No, the son of empirer Karl of Habsburg. Who was the nephew of Crown Prince Franz Ferdinand.
@@marialana3502 Ok, you corrected me!
🖤💛
Meine lieber Otto von Hamburg
Es ist doch bekannt das es die Freimaurer waren
Nein, es waren die Russen die dieses Attentat angestiftet haben... Das weiß man heute.
Die Schlafwandler lesen.
@@marialana3502 gerade dabei
@@ladygodiva9461 Zeit nehmen und mehrmals lesen.
Die Abhaengigkeiten der Staaten, die geschichtlichen Hintergruende. Das Buch ist extrem uebergreifend und gibt ein gutes Gesamtbild der Zeit vor dem 1. Weltkrieg.
@@marialana3502 habe ich von meinem Ex Chef bekommen. Auch das Buch "Der Krieg der viele Väter hatte oder Das tschechisch deutsche Drama 1918-1939.Errichtung und Zusammenbruch eines Vielvoelkerstaates als Vorspiel zum Zweiten Weltkrieg von Gerd Schultze Rhonhof.Sehr interessant.👋
NU ZIJN WE WEER ZO VER!!!!!!
Actually the greatest disaster that created the basis for WW1 was the supreme stupidity of Kaiser Willie as he 1) was the favorite nephew of Queen Victoria, this still pretty influential 2) had an extremely well run if militaristic state 3) that same state had pensions, healthcare and public works WAY AHEAD if anything anywhere in Europe 3) obviously great armed forces.... had he USED his brain he could have became THE MEDIATOR as he was cousin of King George, the Czar and THE most influential person alive in THAT moment.. he could have MADE "EUROPE" literally one hundred years ago... unfortunately he did not....
You make some fine points. The question is how much ability did Kaiser Wilhelm have to make policy. The Imperial German General Staff were gung ho for war. The Kaiser's big mistake was giving the " blank cheque" to Emperor Franz Jozef to deal with Serbia as he pleased. Austria pushed too hard on Serbia and would not have declared war on Serbia if Imperial Germany did not have its back.
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@Eternaldream00
Right after the assassination a beautiful memorial column was built near the bridge which is just across the street. After 1918 the column or were there two columns (not sure) were destroyed by the Serbs.1918-1941 The Serbs then put a nationalist memorial on the wall.1941-1945 In WW2 the Wehrmacht took it down. There are even videos of that moment. After the war the communist put the Serb nationalist memorial up again 45-92.
Somewhere after 96 a new neutral memorial was created.
SARAJEVO **
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his Job was aT The AusTrian Army
plus fourTy years
Да ли се то Ото поклонио и сенима МладоБосанаца, Слава Гаврилу
Möchte Euch nur verachten.
Kostete meiner Familie ...
Grund und Boden..(1. WELTKRIEG)
m. Family GeburTsname von ITaly
regisTered Heraldry
Srbija do Tokija
Ja lieber Otto von Habsburg , wäre dein Vater nicht so labil gewesen und hätte Rückgrat gezeigt, gegenüber Wilhelm den 2. ,dann....würde dein konservatives bzw. reaktionäres Gelaber heut noch interessieren. ...
Sie führen ein unflätiges Gerede mein Herr, mässigen Sie sich bitte, benehmen sie sich wie ein Mann...!
Kann mich Markus E. Engel nur anschließen.
Eigentlich wollte Kaiser Wilhelm II. keinen Krieg. Letztlich überschlugen sich nach dem Attentat von Sarajewo die Ereignisse und die Welt schlitterte in die Urkatastrophe des 20. Jahrhunderts. Österreich wollte den Krieg gegen Serbien, obgleich Serbien alle Bedingungen erfüllte.
Die wollten doch alle den Krieg da oben. Auch mit dem Hintergrund dass alles kaputt geht, Endlich vom Absolutismus frei zu kommen war dem kleinen Volk wichtiger. Gottes Gnadentum, die Überheblichkeit allein ist schon Sünde.
@@gargaleris1 Okupator als vorbild???Was macht Franz Ferdinand in Bosnien???