Jess, when you're welding run a line with a white paint marker along where you are welding. It shines bright when you weld and helps not only hit the 🎯 but makes your weld lines straighter.
When I used to work for the US Navy I would have to be a “fire watch” while the shipyard welders worked on the submarine. They used electric heaters on stainless and other metals to preheat them for proper welds. You’re doing a great job!
That was a beautiful addition to your house! Working in the rain and cold was a challenge I'm sure but you guys hung in there. Great results . Great progress. Love your videos.
And luckily for you, your local store was still there. If you want your local store to be there tomorrow, use it today! Ordering online kills local shops. 🙂
We always use local products/services when possible. The reason I looked online was because I couldn’t find anything local, which is why we had to have them custom made. I totally agree though! Support the community! 😊
I think I would create a little dam in the gutter about two feet either side of the downspout "intake" so that the evergreen needles would lodge into the little dams, rather than blocking the downspout "intake." The "dams" would be about half the height of the gutter dimension. The needles will build up in the gutter in a year or two where you will want to remove them. Otherwise with the coastal downpours, the water will overflow the gutter full of needles and a lot less than the water running down the downspout. Of course the little dams can be installed anytime. A lot of roof surface. 😊
I don't believe I would be brave enough to crawl on that lift. I definitely would be on my knees unable to stand. Probably, glued or wrapped around anything sturdy having to be peeled off. Good for you. Great job as always
The double ended 1/8” drill bits are great and cheap when drilling through thin metal. When one drill bit gets dull, just turn it around. They are very short and hard to break as well.
Building with wood: everything is built easy and fast, but house is flammable and breakable. Building with metal: everything takes 100 times longer, but house is fireproof and basically indestructible.
The issues with drilling stainless steel is heat that is generated from friction between the drill point and the metal, speed that you mentioned is impotent also the type of drill point, the drill needs to be sharpened in the split point style so that the point is actually cutting and not wearing its way through the metal and generating the killer heat and then work hardening the metal .
You need a different kind of welder for stainless than regular steel. My late husband was a pipe fitter & i remember the welders had a Tig i think it was called for stainless, wire & stick for steel. ❤❤
Very nice job .but i think you have made the gutters hard work for yourselfs. an aluminium box gutter powdercoated to any colour would of been far better and cheaper choice all the outlet top hats are all premade same with stopened there would be no welding and each gutter length would have a premade union welded in ... but thats would of been my choice :)
Never worked with stainless, but always thought that if you welded, sanded or scratched the surface it would rust in that area. With that heavy dew, guess we will find out next episode.
When grinding stainless make sure to use new blades you can contaminate the stainless and it will rust if you used a used grinding disk that was used on steel ask me how i know 😂
Yes I agree with you and you are doing a sterling job, But I would love to see the finished home, as I think it's going to be Fab. At 83 I don't know how many yrs I have left,,, LOL Even so keep up the excellent work you are doing, 👍 😄 Del UK...@@MelissaMalzahn
Fluxcore is a nightmare to weld with. You know you could just use a chain as a "downspout". We do that on some mountain cabins here in Norway. The water will follow the chain. More important is to make some kind of drainage in the ground.
I don’t mind welding with flux core. It’s more clean up but it’s not always realistic for us to haul gas around our property or up multiple levels, and welding outdoors can be tricky with gas… which is why we typically use flux core. I’ve seen the chain downspout before but we get 80+ inches of rain a year and with a 28ft downspout drop and high winds, I wasn’t sure if it would work well. It’s a super cool concept though! 😊
Seems to me water collection would have been at the core of the design. There is no better way to be self sustained than to have a way to collect, store and repurpose water. Especially in Oregon where the ignorant government has made any water on your property, regardless if it is in the form of a creek or underground as public property that you have ZERO control over or right to use. The ONLY water you can claim as your own is the rain water that you can collect. At least that is how it is here in central Oregon.
You guys are aware that there's an entire industry specialising in guttering and water management for houses, right? They've already invented all the various connection pieces so you don't have to make them yourselves. Also, if you guys insist on using the angle grinder with loose bits of glove flapping about that close to the disc, someone's going to lose a thumb in the not too distant future. Please be careful.
@@jamjon85 Yeah, did you? They built an entire piece out of bits to connect the gutter to the downpipe when they could have purchased a clean off the shelf piece that was designed to do that exact job and would have just slotted through the hole in the guttering and slid inside the downpipe itself. No requirement to make a piece or cut bits out of the downpipe. Just quietly this is the way that all guttering is done, it stops the water leaking out and everything. It's known as not reinventing the wheel.
Sounds like you think you could of done it better, or you have money to throw at everything. Those little things add up. Any where you can DIY helps. Are you in the Gutter Business?
I think you are forgetting that this is a cap not a plug you should have placed the end cap on the outside of the gutter and welded on the inside of the gutter this would ahve allowed you to weld all the way around with out sealing and compleat the solid cap.
To bad you didn't have a thick piece of of aluminum to do your work on cause it would help with dissipate the heat while your welding on the stainless steel
15:17 🤦....in USA you dont have ready finished pieces of connection in shops for few dolars? ....insane...the prices of materials you have in the USA are crazy...insane crazy
The cost of living is always going up all the time and hurting a lot of people ..If Harris gets in office,we will suffer big time..Your personal exemption for your income tax will be cut in half..If you have to pay the government it will be double and if you are getting money back it will be half..
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Is stainless less expensive than copper? You can braze copper, its softer and can "move" a bit more on installation. Plus it'll add a wonderful patina.
--- Stainless gutter with custom end caps... not something you see often in my part of the world :-) I was slightly surprised you went with the trouble to use bolts instead of regular wood screws but I guess it's due to a single bolt hole? Here it's quite common to mount hangers using 3-4 wood screws, even if the roof is not exactly constructed with wood more often than not there will be something like 25-30mm thick board just to mount the gutter hangers. --- Drilling in stainless, oh yeah! This year I welded around 40 pieces of stainless tubing (30x20x3mm and 60x30x3mm) so we did not have to use some special brackets and try to somehow attach them to 6mm thick steel. For some context - I've made custom 150x150x6mm steel pillar that is 5,5m tall, anchored to the concrete at the corner of the new hallway we've added to the house and it holds big windows on two sides. There's also a less beefy second pillar from 100mm i-beam also holding part of the windows. So, those stainless pieces that serve as windows brackets are stainless to minimize the heat loss as stainless has much lower thermal conductivity compared to mild steel. It was also suppose to make the life of guys who mounted the windows easier (those windows were way to big and heavy to mount it without professional help, one glass alone was like 400kg). First they though they can get away with self drilling screws - nope ;-) Going through two 3mm stainless walls is not easy. 5 broken screws later they switched to breaking drill bits, but really did not complain that much, they did a nice job and were actually quite happy with what I've peppered for them :-) They even provided a custom made brackets (made by some welding shop next to their office) for the side where windows were attached to concrete and that kind of initiative and willingness to use brain is not common when you hire someone to do unusual job hehe. --- We also have a lot of big spiders around the property / part of the house that is in construction (well, big for Poland anyway, there are some much bigger but somewhere deep in the mountain forests practically not seen by general population). I'd say ours are similar in size to what you've shown, in particular we've got Argiope bruennichi, apparently in English commonly known as the wasp spider but in Polish it's called Tygrzyk Paskowany ("paskowany" means it has stripes) or commonly "Pająk Tygrysi" - a tiger spider, due to those stripes I guess ;-)
You should have paid attention to what you were doing, the end caps went on the outside of your gutters, if you had looked you would have noticed that, NEXT TIME
When grinding stainless make sure to use new blades you can contaminate the stainless and it will rust if you used a used grinding disk that was used on steel ask me how i know 😂
Jess, when you're welding run a line with a white paint marker along where you are welding. It shines bright when you weld and helps not only hit the 🎯 but makes your weld lines straighter.
Thx so much for the advice!! Appreciate it 😊
When I used to work for the US Navy I would have to be a “fire watch” while the shipyard welders worked on the submarine. They used electric heaters on stainless and other metals to preheat them for proper welds. You’re doing a great job!
That was a beautiful addition to your house! Working in the rain and cold was a challenge I'm sure but you guys hung in there. Great results . Great progress. Love your videos.
And luckily for you, your local store was still there. If you want your local store to be there tomorrow, use it today! Ordering online kills local shops. 🙂
We always use local products/services when possible. The reason I looked online was because I couldn’t find anything local, which is why we had to have them custom made. I totally agree though! Support the community! 😊
Using the torch definitely made the difference for you to weld the stainless. Good thinking outside the box. ❤
In the end they look great. That's all that matters. How you got there is irrelevant except you found a way to get it done.
Interesting way to do your welding! But, if it works it works! Great video!
Heating that part up was genius.
Great work
You might want to consider putting a screen on your gutter to keep out the leaves and debris
I see mostly pines and evergreens surrounded their home
Haven't seen a single deciduous tree around the house... 😂
I think I would create a little dam in the gutter about two feet either side of the downspout "intake" so that the evergreen needles would lodge into the little dams, rather than blocking the downspout "intake." The "dams" would be about half the height of the gutter dimension. The needles will build up in the gutter in a year or two where you will want to remove them. Otherwise with the coastal downpours, the water will overflow the gutter full of needles and a lot less than the water running down the downspout. Of course the little dams can be installed anytime. A lot of roof surface. 😊
Those gutters so fit with the build! Love them!
using the propane torch to remove water helps a lot
The most overkill gutter system ive ever seen! I like it lol. You'd have to pay someone $100k+ for that system.
I was hoping for a rain chain instead of downspout, but it looks really good regardless.
I don't believe I would be brave enough to crawl on that lift. I definitely would be on my knees unable to stand. Probably, glued or wrapped around anything sturdy having to be peeled off. Good for you. Great job as always
Love watching your team work. It's going to look great in the end. Always take precaution. 😊
The double ended 1/8” drill bits are great and cheap when drilling through thin metal. When one drill bit gets dull, just turn it around. They are very short and hard to break as well.
I wish I could come TIG those for you! It would have been infinitely better! But great job in the end 🙏🙌
Love it so much keep it up as always 💘
Great work team can’t wait to see the finished gutter system 😎
if you have access to rubbing alcohol or acetone would be better between the parts with before welding
WOW, that's some SERIOUS guttering!
You don’t need luck you have great talent
DIY at its best. ❤❤😊😊 I bet you Saved a Pretty Penny.😊
TIG is really the best option for welding thin stainless. You could have saved alot of time and just used pop rivets for end caps and downspout pops.
The gutters are very nice!👍
It looks really good Well done 🤗
love it guys! amazing work!!! i wish i was there too ;)
Sure don't look like ya got to much to worry about. Nice job
Building with wood: everything is built easy and fast, but house is flammable and breakable.
Building with metal: everything takes 100 times longer, but house is fireproof and basically indestructible.
The issues with drilling stainless steel is heat that is generated from friction between the drill point and the metal, speed that you mentioned is impotent also the type of drill point, the drill needs to be sharpened in the split point style so that the point is actually cutting and not wearing its way through the metal and generating the killer heat and then work hardening the metal .
You will get better welds on thin material if you use a gas shield and drop to a smaller diameter wire.
looks great so far 💖
Nice gutters! Stainless steel is great! Hard to work with though!
You need a different kind of welder for stainless than regular steel. My late husband was a pipe fitter & i remember the welders had a Tig i think it was called for stainless, wire & stick for steel. ❤❤
generally always best to drill metal before welding it
Off grid water collection opportunity.
Very nice job .but i think you have made the gutters hard work for yourselfs. an aluminium box gutter powdercoated to any colour would of been far better and cheaper choice all the outlet top hats are all premade same with stopened there would be no welding and each gutter length would have a premade union welded in ... but thats would of been my choice :)
Whynot use TIG (tungsten inert gas) method? to weld the gutters?
Ich schicke nur einfach mal Grüsse aus Germany.
Have you thought about drill silicone and rivets
What about a rain catchment system?
Questions. Shouldn't the down spout gutter go on the outside of the piece your making so the water doesn't go on the outside of down spout?
Hi..Where are y'll? you have big pines..This is Bill in Tx...I like your video's...
You should invest in a TIG welder.
Never worked with stainless, but always thought that if you welded, sanded or scratched the surface it would rust in that area. With that heavy dew, guess we will find out next episode.
Paint it
Sorry just a question but shouldn't those downpipes of been on the outside of your gutter outlets????
When grinding stainless make sure to use new blades you can contaminate the stainless and it will rust if you used a used grinding disk that was used on steel ask me how i know 😂
Your build is taking so long I was wondering if I would still be alive to see it finished.??
2 people mostly building would take a long time if building a stick built house let alone using shipping containers where everything is custom. ❤
Yes I agree with you and you are doing a sterling job, But I would love to see the finished home, as I think it's going to be Fab. At 83 I don't know how many yrs I have left,,, LOL Even so keep up the excellent work you are doing, 👍 😄 Del UK...@@MelissaMalzahn
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For all the metal work, why didn’t you invest in a drill press? Just curious. Are you using oil when you use your drill on the metal?
Fluxcore is a nightmare to weld with. You know you could just use a chain as a "downspout". We do that on some mountain cabins here in Norway. The water will follow the chain. More important is to make some kind of drainage in the ground.
I don’t mind welding with flux core. It’s more clean up but it’s not always realistic for us to haul gas around our property or up multiple levels, and welding outdoors can be tricky with gas… which is why we typically use flux core. I’ve seen the chain downspout before but we get 80+ inches of rain a year and with a 28ft downspout drop and high winds, I wasn’t sure if it would work well. It’s a super cool concept though! 😊
stainless u use tig welder..
Your channel has grown alot..... your veiws!!!! Would it be better if you welded on inside instead of outside? The welds wouldn't be visible ❤
Seems to me water collection would have been at the core of the design. There is no better way to be self sustained than to have a way to collect, store and repurpose water. Especially in Oregon where the ignorant government has made any water on your property, regardless if it is in the form of a creek or underground as public property that you have ZERO control over or right to use. The ONLY water you can claim as your own is the rain water that you can collect. At least that is how it is here in central Oregon.
You guys are aware that there's an entire industry specialising in guttering and water management for houses, right? They've already invented all the various connection pieces so you don't have to make them yourselves. Also, if you guys insist on using the angle grinder with loose bits of glove flapping about that close to the disc, someone's going to lose a thumb in the not too distant future. Please be careful.
Did you watch the video?
@@jamjon85 Yeah, did you? They built an entire piece out of bits to connect the gutter to the downpipe when they could have purchased a clean off the shelf piece that was designed to do that exact job and would have just slotted through the hole in the guttering and slid inside the downpipe itself. No requirement to make a piece or cut bits out of the downpipe. Just quietly this is the way that all guttering is done, it stops the water leaking out and everything. It's known as not reinventing the wheel.
Sounds like you think you could of done it better, or you have money to throw at everything. Those little things add up. Any where you can DIY helps. Are you in the Gutter Business?
What a beautiful, professional job. Well done 👏
I think this gutter, on the end soldered will rust, I hope you guys paint it
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That thumbnail stopped my surfing instantly. Had to see what you are up to.
Yea, the thumbnails have been something alright! Those of us that would rather see the “ other half” are………………left out.
Little trick use sunlight liquid.....???
I think you are forgetting that this is a cap not a plug you should have placed the end cap on the outside of the gutter and welded on the inside of the gutter this would ahve allowed you to weld all the way around with out sealing and compleat the solid cap.
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Little question : why don't you have a gard on your grinder ? it's not safe, be carefull !
Someone might get hurt from snow and or ice sliding off the roof
To bad you didn't have a thick piece of of aluminum to do your work on cause it would help with dissipate the heat while your welding on the stainless steel
23:44 - smaller radius from bottom and to inside from bottom? ...🤦🤦🤦 do you think at all? 🤣
It seems to me that this square should be put on top, not in the middle
please i want this a job
15:17 🤦....in USA you dont have ready finished pieces of connection in shops for few dolars? ....insane...the prices of materials you have in the USA are crazy...insane crazy
The cost of living is always going up all the time and hurting a lot of people ..If Harris gets in office,we will suffer big time..Your personal exemption for your income tax will be cut in half..If you have to pay the government it will be double and if you are getting money back it will be half..
WOW, I told you that you would be big on TH-cam if you got on there. COMPLETELY RAD. Your subscription will double in a year... any bets? Get some more hashtags like #RAD, #Mad Max, #RADHOUSES, #ALTERNATIVE HOUSES
Is stainless less expensive than copper? You can braze copper, its softer and can "move" a bit more on installation. Plus it'll add a wonderful patina.
--- Stainless gutter with custom end caps... not something you see often in my part of the world :-) I was slightly surprised you went with the trouble to use bolts instead of regular wood screws but I guess it's due to a single bolt hole? Here it's quite common to mount hangers using 3-4 wood screws, even if the roof is not exactly constructed with wood more often than not there will be something like 25-30mm thick board just to mount the gutter hangers.
--- Drilling in stainless, oh yeah! This year I welded around 40 pieces of stainless tubing (30x20x3mm and 60x30x3mm) so we did not have to use some special brackets and try to somehow attach them to 6mm thick steel. For some context - I've made custom 150x150x6mm steel pillar that is 5,5m tall, anchored to the concrete at the corner of the new hallway we've added to the house and it holds big windows on two sides. There's also a less beefy second pillar from 100mm i-beam also holding part of the windows.
So, those stainless pieces that serve as windows brackets are stainless to minimize the heat loss as stainless has much lower thermal conductivity compared to mild steel. It was also suppose to make the life of guys who mounted the windows easier (those windows were way to big and heavy to mount it without professional help, one glass alone was like 400kg).
First they though they can get away with self drilling screws - nope ;-) Going through two 3mm stainless walls is not easy. 5 broken screws later they switched to breaking drill bits, but really did not complain that much, they did a nice job and were actually quite happy with what I've peppered for them :-) They even provided a custom made brackets (made by some welding shop next to their office) for the side where windows were attached to concrete and that kind of initiative and willingness to use brain is not common when you hire someone to do unusual job hehe.
--- We also have a lot of big spiders around the property / part of the house that is in construction (well, big for Poland anyway, there are some much bigger but somewhere deep in the mountain forests practically not seen by general population). I'd say ours are similar in size to what you've shown, in particular we've got Argiope bruennichi, apparently in English commonly known as the wasp spider but in Polish it's called Tygrzyk Paskowany ("paskowany" means it has stripes) or commonly "Pająk Tygrysi" - a tiger spider, due to those stripes I guess ;-)
WHY WHY Would you not incorporate a gutter system from the beginning. It's free fresh water.
Do you not do tig welding a much neater job not telling you guys how to suck eggs but please use a guard on your grinder
it bothers me that your left pigtail is braided loosely and that your right one is braided tightly. Why?!?!?!?!
Just a gutter? Just a House? cmon now
What is the gaels name the girl name
Your mom 💀
@@sean640 very funny
You should have paid attention to what you were doing, the end caps went on the outside of your gutters, if you had looked you would have noticed that, NEXT TIME
way over engineered
Your being silly and corny. Gutter will fix it.
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When grinding stainless make sure to use new blades you can contaminate the stainless and it will rust if you used a used grinding disk that was used on steel ask me how i know 😂
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