Why not just build a massive hover craft? Like the old ones they used to go from England to France, they were massive. Sit on the ice until you need to move. Easy!!!
It's actually a really old design. I can't remember who exactly, but I watched a documentary about early Arctic explorers, and one of them had a ship built exactly like that, except it was made of wood. The idea was that the water would freeze around the boat, and it would drift across the North pole with the natural seasonal flow of ice.
"Fram ("Forward") is a ship that was used in expeditions of the Arctic and Antarctic regions by the Norwegian explorers Fridtjof Nansen, Otto Sverdrup, Oscar Wisting, and Roald Amundsen between 1893 and 1912. (...) Nansen's idea was to build a ship that could survive the pressure, not by pure strength, but because it would be of a shape designed to let the ice push the ship up, so it would "float" on top of the ice."
Yes if you look closely at the video you can see a Rutter also, plus if it was a barge it wouldn't call it a ship. ( Right? ) maybe wrong have been before lol
The vessel is still being built hence the extensive usage of stock footage and animations. That said a rudder and propeller are visible early on in the video.
I was thinking the same. I just watched Irving Finkle's lecture about the making of the likeness of "Noahs" Ark and why tge circular or ovular shape is more ideal. Very interesting.
The Russians are also thinking in this direction. With the disappearance of reliable drifting ice floes due to global warming, there was a need to replace unreliable ice floes with something more reliable for long-term drifting of polar expeditions. Therefore, in Russia, the Ice-resistant self-propelled platform "North Pole" - a floating drifting laboratory - was created and launched this year. The purpose is the same - to drift with the ice. Autonomy is 2 years.
Okay, but Russia also wants to run the planet with dictators and trumpians.. in mind.. once Russia is done being an autocratic society and stop waging war on its smaller neighbors then Russia will be relevant..
the editing is so crappy and its all stock footage because its probably AI generated. also half of these comments are AI generated... including this one.
It No good for BOAT hulls the Welds start to Crack because Sea hamming on hull making Aluminum get harder .Check out US warships made of Aluminum all started to crack only lasted 10 years or less
Record Arctic Sea Ice Growth, During the summer of 2012, Arctic experts announced the imminent collapse of Arctic sea ice. Extent has increased 24% since then. In October 2024 Arctic sea ice extent has been increasing at a rate of almost nine Manhattans per minute. So much Ice mentling in freezing temperatures?
People are making billions off of promising utopia - if we just shut up and obey. And as all throughout time, such promises will lead to conflict and disaster. But if we all just buy EVs, eat bugs and give up bodily autonomy the climate will stabilize and we'll all live happily ever after. It is known..
Русские построили ледостойкую платформу "Северный полюс" длиной 90 метров на 25 метров и водомщмещением 10000 тонн за 90 миллионов. Откуда в этой скорлупе 38??? Какой алюминий в Арктике?
interesting project, though the video clips are almost all totally unrelated. regarding the actual tara polar station, i am a bit skeptical it will be able to endure more than a few seasons in the arctic, those are just unrelenting conditions, changing climate notwithstanding.
Because it depends of where you are. In the centre of the sea ice, right over the North pole, it will tend to stay under frozen water temperature, but the ice cap is actually moving, and on the fringe it is melting quite enthusiastically in spring and summer, to refreezes in automn and winter, but not as much in average each year. So over the decades the multi year ice tend to be thinner, and that's they want to observe because with current trends, we might have an ice free Arctic summer before 2050, and no one knows exactly what it will do, hence the studying.
how does it dispose of the waste of 18 people, is it burned off into the air? it can't be released into the water as it would impact and specimens they collect in or around the pod? who has the answer,
I don't understand. Isn't better to build a ship of similiar size or larger. You can still build all the same facilities and research rooms but you then have a ship with an engine to move if there's an emergency or just move to a better location. You can do the same things as in the floating research station and just have the ship float around for a few months. Or is this thing cheaper and easier to run and you don't need a crew to worry about sitting around doing nothing?
Not sure what more can be learn from this that will have any application to help reduce what's currently taking place. We already know we're heading for ice free poles.
The doomsday cultists have been saying that for decades and have to keep shifting the timeline because even in summer there is still plenty of ice. As for Antarctica the average temperature in the interior throughout the year is -57 degrees Celsius with the minimum temperature being -90 degrees Celsius during the winter months. Although the coast is warmer and temperatures can reach a maximum of between -2 and 8 degrees Celsius in the summer. NASA satellite data shows that Antarctica is actually gaining ice not losing it and with those sorts of temperatures it’s no surprise.
The 2cm thick aluminum may prove inadequate. Yes, aluminum handles the cold better in the sense that it changes less. But fundamentally it’s a crystalline metal and hard to make durable mountain bike frames with, let alone larger complex research stations. Many engineers have failed on large projects using aluminum. Still it may work out well we’ll have to see in a few decades.
Yea, you had me at rules and regulations. French would be building this thing for another 10 years, there is no way French will allow itself to complete it on time.
20 years ago they gave the same warning about the ice melting in the artic. We must act and life respectful with Mother Earth, that is smart, no fear porn please
Hey France! I've got a 12' aluminum row boat I'll sell you for only $50,000.00 US. Considering what you paid for that piece of floating artic aluminum, this is a steal 😁
Google: Here are some data points that show the Arctic is warming: Temperature The Arctic's average surface air temperature from October 2022 to September 2023 was 20°F (-7°C), making it the sixth warmest year on record since 1900. The summer average temperature was 43°F (6.4°C), the warmest on record. Since 1940, the Arctic's annual average temperature has increased by 0.45°F (0.25°C) per decade, and the summer average has increased by 0.31°F (0.17°C) per decade. Sea ice The Arctic's sea ice melt season has lengthened by 37 days since 1979, and the ice now starts melting seven days earlier and refreezing 30 days later than it used to. The shallow seas around the Arctic Ocean have warmed by almost 4°F (2°C) over the past four decades. This warming causes less sea ice, which exposes more of the ocean to sunlight, which in turn causes more warming. Snow Snow-covered areas are thawing out earlier in the spring. For example, in 2022-2023, the Arctic had above-average snow in the winter, but it melted much faster in the spring than usual. In 2021, Arctic North America had below-average snow cover for the 15th year in a row. Wildfires Wildfires in the Arctic are becoming more frequent, severe, and larger. This can make it harder for ecosystems to recover and can change the types of plants that grow back. Harmful algal blooms As sea ice melts and water temperatures rise, harmful algal blooms (HABs) are expanding north. These blooms can produce toxins like saxitoxin and domoic acid, which have been found in Arctic cetaceans, seals, and walruses.
So if if gets between two huge icebergs heading towards each other that thing won’t crumble up like a piece of tin foil from a cup cake? Alrighty then.
Arctic !!! They won’t find any illegal immigrant boat crossings here , we give the French millions to stop the crossings and they use it for this ??? Really !!
What they conviently leave out is the fact that the Antartic sea ice is increasing. If you were to look at earth over a one million year time period you would see several cycles where one polar cap increases while the other decreases.
No, they didn't leave that out, because if you actually bother to check, Antarctica is actually loosing ice. What have increased is annual ice mass gain, caused by the increased evaporation from warmer oceans. Alas, that gain is more than balanced by the increased melting, so on average it is loosing ice. And why would a phenomenon spanning hundreds of millennia would be relevant to something we can see changing in decades?
He didn’t actually say anyone got ripped off. Just that someone made a lot of money, and that would almost certainly be someone connected to the gov. Even if an aluminum dingy was worth that much, which I doubt, some connected company made a lot. As for proof, you just have to actually look into government spending to have a reasonable doubt as to the fairness of the bidding.
Following the real data, there is no such fantasy as warming in these huge areas. These days and recent months the example of "alarmingly increasing temperatures" on the Concordia Station(South Pole/Antarctica) it's very hot in the winter months, like -50 to -60 Celcius right now. It's almost idiotic statements presented as reality.
that would be perfect as a winter vacation house if it had solar panels for energy and fishing equipment for fishing for food and vertical farms for growing potatoes
@@astree214I hope they put a good door on the centre water access, great for fishing and crab pots but I reckon it wouldn't take long for polar bears to find it .
@@markmonaghan2309 Yeah could be funny awakening, going to the kitchen for breakfast and finding a white teddy bear sitting in the middle of the fridge 🤣
How many liters is the wine tank?
The minimum legal requirement is 1 liter/person/day 😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why not just build a massive hover craft? Like the old ones they used to go from England to France, they were massive.
Sit on the ice until you need to move. Easy!!!
It's limited due to croissant rations and es-cargo. (:
Une cuve à vin digne de se nom se compte en hectolitre et non en litre.
We need to put one of these in the methane lakes on titan.
Way too much filler. A narrated video tour of the vessel would have been a lot more interesting.
It’s hard to offer a tour of what does not yet exist…….the vessel is still under construction
@@cruisinguy6024 its 90% stock footage of little relevance...
@@hindugoat2302 then don’t watch 🤷♂️ This is cool new tech that interests some of us that appreciate the potential once it’s constructed.
its ai
It's actually a really old design. I can't remember who exactly, but I watched a documentary about early Arctic explorers, and one of them had a ship built exactly like that, except it was made of wood. The idea was that the water would freeze around the boat, and it would drift across the North pole with the natural seasonal flow of ice.
I think when they mentioned sea trials in the 'Fram Straight' they were giving a clue to the vessel of which you speak!
"Fram ("Forward") is a ship that was used in expeditions of the Arctic and Antarctic regions by the Norwegian explorers Fridtjof Nansen, Otto Sverdrup, Oscar Wisting, and Roald Amundsen between 1893 and 1912. (...) Nansen's idea was to build a ship that could survive the pressure, not by pure strength, but because it would be of a shape designed to let the ice push the ship up, so it would "float" on top of the ice."
Interesting subject however too much use of unrelated stock footage and NI mention of how the "vessel ' is moved? ( own power or towed/carried)
They say “it’s meant to drift with the ice” a couple of times
@@EmilianaCamila can't drift from France to the pole, can it?
It has an engine room clearly shown in the layout right there in the video.
Yes if you look closely at the video you can see a Rutter also, plus if it was a barge it wouldn't call it a ship. ( Right? ) maybe wrong have been before lol
The vessel is still being built hence the extensive usage of stock footage and animations. That said a rudder and propeller are visible early on in the video.
They missed the opportunity to call it the:
Artic Ark
Arche Arctique
I was thinking the same. I just watched Irving Finkle's lecture about the making of the likeness of "Noahs" Ark and why tge circular or ovular shape is more ideal. Very interesting.
The Russians are also thinking in this direction. With the disappearance of reliable drifting ice floes due to global warming, there was a need to replace unreliable ice floes with something more reliable for long-term drifting of polar expeditions. Therefore, in Russia, the Ice-resistant self-propelled platform "North Pole" - a floating drifting laboratory - was created and launched this year. The purpose is the same - to drift with the ice. Autonomy is 2 years.
Okay, but Russia also wants to run the planet with dictators and trumpians.. in mind.. once Russia is done being an autocratic society and stop waging war on its smaller neighbors then Russia will be relevant..
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I would love to work on such a vessel!!
A video produced and edited by a person who has no clue about the subject matter.... so much stock footage is plain wrong.
the editing is so crappy and its all stock footage because its probably AI generated.
also half of these comments are AI generated... including this one.
For our American friends, that’s 79/100” of aluminum. 😉
Thanks bro!
It No good for BOAT hulls the Welds start to Crack because Sea hamming on hull making Aluminum get harder .Check out US warships made of Aluminum all started to crack only lasted 10 years or less
It's 3/4 inch thick aluminum plate!
And your flag is on the moon where?
So 20mm
Thats a hell of a bit of engineering!!!
Very Cool!!!
Record Arctic Sea Ice Growth, During the summer of 2012, Arctic experts announced the imminent collapse of Arctic sea ice. Extent has increased 24% since then. In October 2024 Arctic sea ice extent has been increasing at a rate of almost nine Manhattans per minute. So much Ice mentling in freezing temperatures?
Science wins again ❤🎉😊
0:06 no such thing as “climate stability!”
People are making billions off of promising utopia - if we just shut up and obey. And as all throughout time, such promises will lead to conflict and disaster.
But if we all just buy EVs, eat bugs and give up bodily autonomy the climate will stabilize and we'll all live happily ever after. It is known..
Automatic aluminum welding was mentioned. I’d be interested in the details of this.
An aluminium lunch trey for the polar bears... 🙂
No polar bears in Antarctica.
@@48306jw Arctic research station...
5:48 *had to meet both international and French maritime standards (Not "meet with")
PICKEY.......PICKEY.
I can assure you, I was there. The meeting with my french cousin, however, was set on another date.
Русские построили ледостойкую платформу "Северный полюс" длиной 90 метров на 25 метров и водомщмещением 10000 тонн за 90 миллионов. Откуда в этой скорлупе 38??? Какой алюминий в Арктике?
Disappointed they didn't say anything about how the crew area was insulated.
My guess is vacuum insulated, basically a big thermos
Why no video for the trials?
Wouldn’t ceramic-coated composite honeycomb panels be lighter and stronger?
interesting project, though the video clips are almost all totally unrelated. regarding the actual tara polar station, i am a bit skeptical it will be able to endure more than a few seasons in the arctic, those are just unrelenting conditions, changing climate notwithstanding.
How is the Arctic melting when it's below 32°?
Because it depends of where you are. In the centre of the sea ice, right over the North pole, it will tend to stay under frozen water temperature, but the ice cap is actually moving, and on the fringe it is melting quite enthusiastically in spring and summer, to refreezes in automn and winter, but not as much in average each year.
So over the decades the multi year ice tend to be thinner, and that's they want to observe because with current trends, we might have an ice free Arctic summer before 2050, and no one knows exactly what it will do, hence the studying.
20mm thick aluminium? That thing would have been even colder on the inside
how does it dispose of the waste of 18 people, is it burned off into the air? it can't be released into the water as it would impact and specimens they collect in or around the pod? who has the answer,
I don't understand. Isn't better to build a ship of similiar size or larger. You can still build all the same facilities and research rooms but you then have a ship with an engine to move if there's an emergency or just move to a better location. You can do the same things as in the floating research station and just have the ship float around for a few months. Or is this thing cheaper and easier to run and you don't need a crew to worry about sitting around doing nothing?
Hello. Really amazing.
wouldn't it be cheaper & more spacious modifying an existing ships hull? Thats a tiny pontoon for that crazy price
I like it but what happens when there is a bad storm
... how does she works with pressur ridges ?
The truth is they haven't built it yet. Lots of Photoshopped pictures, and slick sales pitch.
Some call it "Icesolation"
How can one place warm quicker than another, unless there is volcanic influence ???
I noticed the scientists were wearing crocs. That is the healthiest form of birth control. Genius!
No mention of propultion🤦♂️ what engine?
Wheres the video?
So they made a small LNG ship tank with some extra internals.
We built LNG tankers in the '70s with far thicker aluminum segments.
This video didn't really give that much info on its systems imo.
@@Stroopwaffe1
Other than a huge diesel engine running on vegetable oil, and it's weight, the official website is useless as well.
Not sure what more can be learn from this that will have any application to help reduce what's currently taking place. We already know we're heading for ice free poles.
Really? How come a ship heading north to study this got stuck in the ice last year?
The doomsday cultists have been saying that for decades and have to keep shifting the timeline because even in summer there is still plenty of ice. As for Antarctica the average temperature in the interior throughout the year is -57 degrees Celsius with the minimum temperature being -90 degrees Celsius during the winter months. Although the coast is warmer and temperatures can reach a maximum of between -2 and 8 degrees Celsius in the summer. NASA satellite data shows that Antarctica is actually gaining ice not losing it and with those sorts of temperatures it’s no surprise.
20mm thick? That's 0.79 inches. Doesn't seem that thick.
Heads up... When it says "inside" you don't actually get to see "inside" the vessel.
So much for inside
I want one to live in
They refer to ships as female (get Her underway, etc) is this Ship XX?
Many countries refer to ships in a masculine form, including France.
no mention of the Fram
Good video, although the robot voice is tiring.
Yeah I hate the AI voices. When I hear one I click off the video immediately. Human 4 human only
Aluminium is not difficult to weld and 20mm plate is not rare, I was welding 20mm aluminium plate 40yrs ago for military use.
The Arctic is Not heating up & the mean sea levels are the same today as they was 403 years ago.
heated cabins? no way!!
Very cool. Fist expedition set for 2026!
I expected to learn more about the vessel in the picture, this video told me very little and was not meticulous at all.
Let the ice wall melt!!!😂
The 2cm thick aluminum may prove inadequate. Yes, aluminum handles the cold better in the sense that it changes less. But fundamentally it’s a crystalline metal and hard to make durable mountain bike frames with, let alone larger complex research stations. Many engineers have failed on large projects using aluminum. Still it may work out well we’ll have to see in a few decades.
Well..its working ok. As well as thousands of all kind of alluminium vessels, that are floating around the world for decades.
Really you think so
Brilliant, well done France
Octonauts, ro the launch bay!
Privately funded, partly by the fashion industry !
Get your facts correct
why no helepad!?
Probably because there’s no need for one….
Yea, you had me at rules and regulations. French would be building this thing for another 10 years, there is no way French will allow itself to complete it on time.
Yeah, regulations are only an impediment to the free market.
Did you reserved a place on the Titan sub to go dive and see the Titanic?
Oh... wait!
When Mr gandofino is wherever or Mr malachi are wherever ... when my dad shows up at feeding my boy time she is like good enough
The thumbnail says the aluminium is 20mm thick, is that a misrepresentation? Its very broad and non specific.
And the number one condition to continue the funding of this project (NON NEGOTIABLE)? That man made global warming is a direct threat to our planet!
20 years ago they gave the same warning about the ice melting in the artic. We must act and life respectful with Mother Earth, that is smart, no fear porn please
Maybe if Jets weren't spraying the skies over the PACIFIC Ocean every day, the ARTIC
wouldn't be an issue.
Why wouldn't they make it out of titanium Or beryllium?
Way too little actual footage of it??
I want one.
If you have to ask what it costs! Buy a boat.
aluminum is lonly harder to weld when you dont know how to weld
Why don't we stop using ice breakers so that ice can increase thickness and actually have a normal thickness????
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
And yet we never see inside of it.
It’s still being built 🤦🏻♂️
@@cruisinguy6024 Check the title of the video, hence my comment. 🤦♂
@@AlphaMachina touché
Trust me, they should had made it of Stainless Steel. It's not going to last. Leave it to the French.
Wow
Its French so its aluminium. Could have been a range of other materials that don't conduct heat so well!
@2:25 the blue prints look like a UFO! i bet they had inside scoops on the crafts and utilizing that they made this ship..
Maybe the ice age hasnt finished yet
P Diddy brought a lot of lotion and baby oil .
Still have to eat.
Hey France! I've got a 12' aluminum row boat I'll sell you for only $50,000.00 US. Considering what you paid for that piece of floating artic aluminum, this is a steal 😁
Profitez tant que l’on a des traitres au manettes
@@pierrelegal24
If you could please speak American
Also, if it's about the boat, it's sold. Sorry about that 😁
It will Fail because the Cold water and two hamming of sea on the hull will work hard the Aluminum which mean welds will crack
Now this is advanced design that is worthy of future use in such an environment.. C'est magnifique! Bravo!! 👍💚
20mm seems a little weak
strange....a lot of cooling plates are made from Aluminium....don`t think i`d wanna be on that craft
Don't suppose that you have a link to the data that shows that the artic is getting warmer?
Google:
Here are some data points that show the Arctic is warming:
Temperature
The Arctic's average surface air temperature from October 2022 to September 2023 was 20°F (-7°C), making it the sixth warmest year on record since 1900. The summer average temperature was 43°F (6.4°C), the warmest on record. Since 1940, the Arctic's annual average temperature has increased by 0.45°F (0.25°C) per decade, and the summer average has increased by 0.31°F (0.17°C) per decade.
Sea ice
The Arctic's sea ice melt season has lengthened by 37 days since 1979, and the ice now starts melting seven days earlier and refreezing 30 days later than it used to. The shallow seas around the Arctic Ocean have warmed by almost 4°F (2°C) over the past four decades. This warming causes less sea ice, which exposes more of the ocean to sunlight, which in turn causes more warming.
Snow
Snow-covered areas are thawing out earlier in the spring. For example, in 2022-2023, the Arctic had above-average snow in the winter, but it melted much faster in the spring than usual. In 2021, Arctic North America had below-average snow cover for the 15th year in a row.
Wildfires
Wildfires in the Arctic are becoming more frequent, severe, and larger. This can make it harder for ecosystems to recover and can change the types of plants that grow back.
Harmful algal blooms
As sea ice melts and water temperatures rise, harmful algal blooms (HABs) are expanding north. These blooms can produce toxins like saxitoxin and domoic acid, which have been found in Arctic cetaceans, seals, and walruses.
So if if gets between two huge icebergs heading towards each other that thing won’t crumble up like a piece of tin foil from a cup cake? Alrighty then.
No it won’t. It will get pushed up by the ice.
It's a-lu-min-i-um.
🛸
👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯
Why does it have to look like a UFO
Literally didn’t show any of the inside
First comment
Arctic !!! They won’t find any illegal immigrant boat crossings here , we give the French millions to stop the crossings and they use it for this ??? Really !!
Very cool tech.Vive la France
Stop the hysteria.
This video lost me me when it started talking about global warming.
What they conviently leave out is the fact that the Antartic sea ice is increasing. If you were to look at earth over a one million year time period you would see several cycles where one polar cap increases while the other decreases.
No, they didn't leave that out, because if you actually bother to check, Antarctica is actually loosing ice.
What have increased is annual ice mass gain, caused by the increased evaporation from warmer oceans.
Alas, that gain is more than balanced by the increased melting, so on average it is loosing ice.
And why would a phenomenon spanning hundreds of millennia would be relevant to something we can see changing in decades?
Some one made a lot of money 💰 what a Scam
How is that true?
Not everything is a scam, looks very tech heavy! Which costs millions 🤔
Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're dumb, than opening your mouth and proving it
He didn’t actually say anyone got ripped off. Just that someone made a lot of money, and that would almost certainly be someone connected to the gov. Even if an aluminum dingy was worth that much, which I doubt, some connected company made a lot.
As for proof, you just have to actually look into government spending to have a reasonable doubt as to the fairness of the bidding.
This dummy doesn’t believe in climate change that’s why he says it’s “A scam” 😂
Climate fluctuations are normal. Just ask Mother Nature.
So much said but so little actual content -typical of AI fluff.
Following the real data, there is no such fantasy as warming in these huge areas. These days and recent months the example of "alarmingly increasing temperatures" on the Concordia Station(South Pole/Antarctica) it's very hot in the winter months, like -50 to -60 Celcius right now. It's almost idiotic statements presented as reality.
If you buy into this I got some land for sale on the moon
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that would be perfect as a winter vacation house
if it had solar panels for energy
and fishing equipment for fishing for food
and vertical farms for growing potatoes
solar panels in winter, at the north pole ?
@@astree214I hope they put a good door on the centre water access, great for fishing and crab pots but I reckon it wouldn't take long for polar bears to find it .
@@markmonaghan2309 Yeah could be funny awakening, going to the kitchen for breakfast and finding a white teddy bear sitting in the middle of the fridge 🤣