Jim Fregosi should never have taken Roger Mason out of game 4 and game 6. All of Philadelphia knew Mitch Williams had nothing left in the tank after the NLCS. It was not Mitch's fought. In addition, Toronto had an excellent offensive lineup.
If by ‘funny’ you mean ‘funny, as in watching a bunch of former roid-heads and cocaine fiends from the 90’s stumble over their words and try to make the saddest attempts at comedy ever...funny...’ ...then yeah, it was hilarious. If you mean ‘funny’ as in ‘what they’re struggling to shoehorn into failed setups and and punchlines their sad attempts at ‘comedy’...funny’. Then you’re sadly mistaken.
Richard Walker - true story - Howard Stern interviewed him last year. Howard gets into details better than any interviewer in the history of media. Thus, "The King of All Media"
Baseball is a Team game with a lot of individual moments! These were two very awkward videos to watch; based on the behaviour of Mitch Williams and Lenny Dykstra and the boorish loudmouth drunks in attendance, it certainly looks as though this was an open bar event. As melodramatic as some people try to make it out to be, one player does not win or lose a game, much less a six game World Series. There are a lot of little skirmishes that go (mostly) unnoticed before the last battle. Circling back to Williams, in the 1993 regular season he appeared in 65 games, posted a respectful 3.43 ERA, won 3 games and saved 43 more on a Team that won 97 games. He played a pivotal role in 46 of the Phillies 97 victories that year, which is a very impressive 47% plus participation rate! In the NLCS vs the Atlanta Braves, which the Phillies won 4 games to 2, Williams won 2 of those games and saved 2 more with an incredible ERA of 1.69! How much more can a Closer do to help his Team win a play-off series? And, the Braves had an incredibly good Team that year, despite the fact they won a remarkable 104 games to clinch the NL West, the San Francisco Giants made it tight as they finished only 1 gamed behind ‘em. In the 1993 World Series vs. the Toronto Blue Jays, I was fortunate to be at Game # 2 where Terry Mulholland beat Dave Stewart to tie the Series at one win a piece. As for Mitch Williams, he saved 1 more game and lost 2 and in the eyes of some fans will always be remembered for being the guy who gave up Joe Carter’s Game # 6 dramatic walk off World Series winning home run! Before criticizing and placing blame on Williams for the Phillies losing the Series, I encourage you to take a closer look at all the games played and see where opportunities were squandered, plays that should have been made and were not and a couple of Philadelphia losses could have / should have been wins. Game # 4 stands out as a prime example. The Phillies Starting Pitchers gave them two quality starts in six games, Shilling had the other. If you checkout the stats of their Pitching Staff for the World Series, both the Starters and Relievers (including Williams’) you will see they were terrible, to say they were awful would be an understatement! The Starters faltered as did the Bullpen; Manager Jim Fregosi did not have much choice but to keep giving the ball to Mitch in part because he was their “Go to Guy” who was instrumental in getting the Phillies to within two victories of becoming the 1993 World Series Champs. As the old saying goes “The girl you take to the dance is the one you take home”. It would make for an interesting discussion on which Toronto Blue Jays World Series Championship Winning Teams were the better of the two, the 1992 or the 1993 Club. The ’93 Team had the top three leaders for the Batting Title Crown in Olerud, Molitor and Alomar. Four future Hall of Famers were on the Team (Alomar, Molitor, Morris and late season pick up Ricky Henderson). Others like Dave Stewart and Joe Carter are close but not quite Hall of Famers and they were rounded out by good to great position players such as John Olerud, Carlos Delgado, Shawn Green, Tony Fernandes, Devon White and pitchers Pat Hentgen, Todd Stottlemyer, Al Lieter and Duane Ward. Mitch Williams took the ball in the toughest of situations and came up short. This happens! In interviews I have seen and read, “The Wild Thing” never shies away from discussing Carter’s homer, makes excuses nor blames any of his Teammates for losing against Toronto. We should never lose sight of the fact Williams was one of twenty-five Philadelphia Players who battled through a long regular season to win the NL East, beat a tough Braves Team to win the NL pennant and faced the defending World Series Champions for all the marbles. In the end, the Toronto Blue Jays as a Team were better than the Philadelphia Phillies!
Seriously Vance, I read your dissertation prior to the spelling errors. We don’t need to read your MLB history lesson from something I videoed & posted six years ago. Furthermore, It wasn’t Mitch Williams’ fault that the Phillies lost the World Series. Roger Mason should never been taken out of games 4 & 6. The Blue Jays had a great offensive lineup. Mitch Williams (who is an upstanding human being) had nothing left in the tank. Phillies fans knew that and so should have Jim Fregosi - facts.
i love philly fans.the rudest fans in the world.& i love it.i remember fans of the visiting teams would get beat down most of the time in the old veterans stadium.
I went in 86' when the Mets we're going to Clinch the East and the Philly Fans got beat up....by New Yorkers.....(no wonder New York is the place to be)
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1:46 "This is priceless. It's like a train wreck you can't turn your head from."
This is literally the greatest post on TH-cam!
Agreed
Jim Fregosi should never have taken Roger Mason out of game 4 and game 6. All of Philadelphia knew Mitch Williams had nothing left in the tank after the NLCS. It was not Mitch's fought. In addition, Toronto had an excellent offensive lineup.
This makes Daniel Carver's roast look civil.
What was the purpose or point of all this?
To remind Mitch Williams how he destroyed the Phillies and Philadelphia and baseball for a long long time.
This is like two adult brothers arguing at Christmas dinner
That was really funny.
If by ‘funny’ you mean ‘funny, as in watching a bunch of former roid-heads and cocaine fiends from the 90’s stumble over their words and try to make the saddest attempts at comedy ever...funny...’ ...then yeah, it was hilarious. If you mean ‘funny’ as in ‘what they’re struggling to shoehorn into failed setups and and punchlines their sad attempts at ‘comedy’...funny’. Then you’re sadly mistaken.
@@VynylFantasy I remember when I thought Lenny was a big muscular guy and he's only 160 at 5'10"
What was the problem between LD and Rhea Hughes?
What in the World happens to a guy who plays for the City of "Brotherly" Love ?
Jim Eisenreich hit over 0.300 from 1993 to 1996 with the Fightin' Phillies.
Did I just watch a WWE smack down??
This is brutal. WOW
I love a happy ending.
lol "I lost the World Series!" In retrospect it looks like he threw the game on purpose...
Great ending
This is called being nice in philly.
Lenny: it's not personal
World: oh, so another lie by Lenny
who the hell 'green lit' this carnival??? wow!
williams actually thinks he's creative and funny and manages to get owned by dykstra who sounds like norm mcdonald.
Williams killed it.... dykstras a douche bag.
Dykstra didn't "own" anyone. He is a complete moron
That’s a compliment
Dykstra as much of a douche he is, made some really good one liners. "Prison is like a fantasy camp compared to playing behind this guy" LOL
Dykstra lost his teeth in prison.
bnice29 I don't know whether to laugh or believe you lol
bnice29 either way I'd laugh
Richard Walker - true story - Howard Stern interviewed him last year. Howard gets into details better than any interviewer in the history of media. Thus, "The King of All Media"
@@bnice29 did someone beat him up? Did he get schlocked?
who on earth would want to win a thing for these ppl?
Hilarious.
one name roast both at the same time Joe Carter !!!
Wow
Lenny is messed up. Changes thought in the middle of a sentence. Barely incoherent.
Barely incoherent
lol
Embarrassing.
Baseball is a Team game with a lot of individual moments!
These were two very awkward videos to watch; based on the behaviour of Mitch Williams and Lenny Dykstra and the boorish loudmouth drunks in attendance, it certainly looks as though this was an open bar event.
As melodramatic as some people try to make it out to be, one player does not win or lose a game, much less a six game World Series. There are a lot of little skirmishes that go (mostly) unnoticed before the last battle.
Circling back to Williams, in the 1993 regular season he appeared in 65 games, posted a respectful 3.43 ERA, won 3 games and saved 43 more on a Team that won 97 games. He played a pivotal role in 46 of the Phillies 97 victories that year, which is a very impressive 47% plus participation rate!
In the NLCS vs the Atlanta Braves, which the Phillies won 4 games to 2, Williams won 2 of those games and saved 2 more with an incredible ERA of 1.69! How much more can a Closer do to help his Team win a play-off series? And, the Braves had an incredibly good Team that year, despite the fact they won a remarkable 104 games to clinch the NL West, the San Francisco Giants made it tight as they finished only 1 gamed behind ‘em.
In the 1993 World Series vs. the Toronto Blue Jays, I was fortunate to be at Game # 2 where Terry Mulholland beat Dave Stewart to tie the Series at one win a piece. As for Mitch Williams, he saved 1 more game and lost 2 and in the eyes of some fans will always be remembered for being the guy who gave up Joe Carter’s Game # 6 dramatic walk off World Series winning home run! Before criticizing and placing blame on Williams for the Phillies losing the Series, I encourage you to take a closer look at all the games played and see where opportunities were squandered, plays that should have been made and were not and a couple of Philadelphia losses could have / should have been wins. Game # 4 stands out as a prime example.
The Phillies Starting Pitchers gave them two quality starts in six games, Shilling had the other. If you checkout the stats of their Pitching Staff for the World Series, both the Starters and Relievers (including Williams’) you will see they were terrible, to say they were awful would be an understatement! The Starters faltered as did the Bullpen; Manager Jim Fregosi did not have much choice but to keep giving the ball to Mitch in part because he was their “Go to Guy” who was instrumental in getting the Phillies to within two victories of becoming the 1993 World Series Champs. As the old saying goes “The girl you take to the dance is the one you take home”.
It would make for an interesting discussion on which Toronto Blue Jays World Series Championship Winning Teams were the better of the two, the 1992 or the 1993 Club. The ’93 Team had the top three leaders for the Batting Title Crown in Olerud, Molitor and Alomar. Four future Hall of Famers were on the Team (Alomar, Molitor, Morris and late season pick up Ricky Henderson). Others like Dave Stewart and Joe Carter are close but not quite Hall of Famers and they were rounded out by good to great position players such as John Olerud, Carlos Delgado, Shawn Green, Tony Fernandes, Devon White and pitchers Pat Hentgen, Todd Stottlemyer, Al Lieter and Duane Ward.
Mitch Williams took the ball in the toughest of situations and came up short. This happens!
In interviews I have seen and read, “The Wild Thing” never shies away from discussing Carter’s homer, makes excuses nor blames any of his Teammates for losing against Toronto.
We should never lose sight of the fact Williams was one of twenty-five Philadelphia Players who battled through a long regular season to win the NL East, beat a tough Braves Team to win the NL pennant and faced the defending World Series Champions for all the marbles.
In the end, the Toronto Blue Jays as a Team were better than the Philadelphia Phillies!
Seriously Vance, I read your dissertation prior to the spelling errors. We don’t need to read your MLB history lesson from something I videoed & posted six years ago. Furthermore, It wasn’t Mitch Williams’ fault that the Phillies lost the World Series. Roger Mason should never been taken out of games 4 & 6. The Blue Jays had a great offensive lineup. Mitch Williams (who is an upstanding human being) had nothing left in the tank. Phillies fans knew that and so should have Jim Fregosi - facts.
i love philly fans.the rudest fans in the world.& i love it.i remember fans of the visiting teams would get beat down most of the time in the old veterans stadium.
It’s like you think it’s cool to say that Philly fans are the rudest of all the fans Philly fans are fucking douche bag pathetic
@@jdb7945 You seem upset.
I went in 86' when the Mets we're going to Clinch the East and the Philly Fans got beat up....by New Yorkers.....(no wonder New York is the place to be)