Tbh as a fan of meta runner it didn't really occur to me as that show had alot of comedy in it. But newer people came to murder drones so it makes sense
It always felt really weird to me cuz in the first episode they seemed terrified and traumatized but then a couple episodes later they kill an entire Bus full of children and they kind of just shrug and "Oh,Well" 🙃 Also thought it was weird that in the same episode everyone acted super scared of Uzi but not the literal murder machines?
I belive they try to get elong with the murder drones cause theyr "safespot" still has a giant hole in the ceileng wich means if the murder drones wanted to they could kill them all one way or another
But shouldn't they know N and Uzi are friends and by association shouldn't they try and be nicer to her? Try and suck up to her a little as to not get murdered?
Yeah the consistency is a bit off there, but I’ve only seen a few episodes so far so it might boomerang back. The main used joke of the first episode IS about repressing stuff
You were right, the tone shifted a lot, like there is too much plot armor, too much shipping , and too much comedy The action scenes and the "sad" scenes switch up, even the characters. Uzi wanted to : Save worker drones Kill all disassembly drones Kill just v Kill all humans Kill doll Find out about her powers (herself killing worker drones, which she was insisting on protecting) Find out more memories The pilot and the secodn episode were all more serious, any character would die any time, disassembly drones were a threat, and worker drones felt weak and were struggling By the fourtg episode nobody carse anymore about disassembly drones, worker drones dying is just normal and worker drones have superpowers, also it doesnt fell like there is a society other than uzi and her dad and her school, the world feels lackluster, the action feels pointless, and the comedy is fine (i find it very funny) the characters are inconsistent and the pacing is way too fast (by the fifth episode you understand basically nothing if you dont watch lore videos, other than that the comedy is great, the ideas are very creative and the animation is top notch, its just sad seeing a big downgrade
I canostly agree with you except for the too much shipping part. Maby in the fanbase but in the episodes it is only a few scenes per episode so it doesn't overshadow anything else.
I love this show, even episode 4 wasn't as bad to me, but I do hate that the comedy almost overshadows the horror. Though it doesn't bother me too badly for some reason. I even want to incorporate elements of Murder Drones into my hypothetical horror games; one of my monsters is very inspired by episode 1 V and solver J. And I even watnted to make the art style for one of my hypothetical games a mixture of the environments of Murder Drones made in a Tim Burton-like style.
@@vanitymoth I will! Also, I already came up with the story and what type of game it is (survival horror) I just need to find a good game engine for it. Currently, I have my eyes set on Unreal Engine 5, having Godot and RPGMaker as plan b if UE5 ends up going terrible. Just know that I won't use Unity. Also, my game was conceived out of spite of Hello Neighbor, and now that I've started getting into my Resident Evil phase, I found lots of similarities between my hypothetical game and Resident Evil 7, AKA my favorite one before finding RE: Village.
@@malachimccarty6270 I’m trying to envision it. Would it be a small sandbox where your actions will trigger events kinda like hello neighbor or a bigger landscape that you can explore while being hunted down kind of like resident evil 2? Since you like RE7 I presume it would be first person so would you get a weapon to defend yourself or would you have to be super stealthy?
@@vanitymoth You're very much right with some of that. There will be a giant sandbox map, but once the player gets to the "neighbors house" (a giant mansion-like house in the middle of the woods), they're condensed to that area of the map. And yes, stealth and first-person POV will be a thing in my game, and I'm trying to find ways for the player to defend themselves, but I just find that my game idea has a bit of a Southern American aesthetic to it, and the main monster is less like the neighbor and more like Jack Baker. And yes, stealth will be a huge part of the game. Also, I'm thinking of adding some representation to my game. For example, the character you play as is an Indian-American trans man.
i very much agree with that first sentence. How am i supposed to care about the drones running for their life when chased by Uzi, if a moment before one got killed by their own classmate, and no one cared?
I agree with the video allot but i always need to think about how comedy is the best way to push dark messages thats why dark humor is often so funny jet dark when you think about it. Tho i also agree that they need to add more "khan lets uzi die" kinda scenses even if i hate some characters after watching these scenes a second time again.
It's always been a comedy, at least somewhat. The only difference is that the newer jokes tend to land more for me. It might be different from previous Glitch stuff, but it's very much in line with all of Liam Vickers' previous work.
Oh thank goodness, other reviewers weren’t talking about how comedy-heavy and ruins its own mood They want us to care about a narrative, a mystery, relationships and the emotions of the main cast. The show undermines its own tone so often. Is the AS an actual threat or not? Is it supposed scary or not? Why is this crazy AI made of fleshy corpse tendrils a vehicle for comedy?
I feel more and more like they were leaning towards horror but slowly moved toward comedy, but still wanted horror. They don't really mix well together. Having both at equal amount conflict with each other, and having more of one just undermines the other. I don't really find this a problem with Murder Drones, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I actually like the way comedy is handled in MD, to me that's what makes it entertaining and also because since all the episodes as of right now are supposed to be parodies of popular horror movies i think interrupting scary scenes with jokes and making characters stupid on purpose is what makes parodies of horror movies good in general
I personally think the guys at glitch should see this video. And quite frankly I felt a little cheated in a way to not see the drones act more ironically "Human" resulting in more impact and hmph you know more to lose more at stake, more stress on our hero's to succeed and impact when they mess up. I think if it decided to go for nuance as appose to either horror or comedy would enable them to wright an overall a superior product. in the end why I would like to hear criticisms to begin with is because I care about the subject at hand. Otherwise It doesn't concern me, but I genuinely don't want another wasted product. So liam. For the sake of your brain child, take a little more time to make the best show you can. Thank you for listening to my ted talk.
I’ve really enjoyed some of the concepts that the show has to offer. Horror and comedy really could go hand in hand if handled properly, some of the lore is really interesting, and some of the comedy could’ve been great if it was leveraged more effectively. I have two main problems with the show, one is the tonal inconsistency that you’ve mentioned, and the other is the hop-and-skip writing. When I started watching ep. 2 for the first time, I genuinely thought that I accidentally skipped ep. 2 and was watching ep. 3 based on how little connects eps 1 and 2, and this problem has remained consistent. I sometimes feel like entire scenes are missing that would give sometimes crucial context to the scenes that would go after, a huge one for me is the beginning of ep. 5.
Another major problem, its terrible at conveying important plot points in a lear and concise way, leading to heavy confusion as the series goes on. I shouldn't have to watch breakdown videos of every episode to understand the whole plot
How murder drones is going is slightly annoying, they're chasing after completely different plots and abandoning the very interesting one they already had whilst completely 180ing the tone of the series through being over comedic. it's kind of like if Attack on Titan's first few episodes were the same, but then the entire series forgot and soon downplayed the titans and then focused on relationship dramas, every titan attack played off as a "Monster of the week" kind of thing, everyone making jokes whilst fighting titans as if it weren't a big deal suddenly and them chasing some completely new threat somewhat related to the titans like if Eren soon uncovered that paradise island was a giant turtle and it was being attacked by a super disease somewhat like the spider man symbiote which infects and controls living creatures, including titans. it would've worked but it definitely would not have been the series that came to be and that is all due to aot having a vision, a path of such to direct where the story will go and what to do and not do. it also doesn't help Glitch production's case as they arn't controlled by any actual corporate bureaucrat, which is nice so that the creators are free to make what they want but is also bad as there is no one who will really hold them back from making decisions that may not work besides from Kevin and luke.
Idk there are some comedic moments but most of it is in background so when watching an episode you will most likely not notice it and when you start to dig, you will have some stuff to laugh about so I would say no its perfect.
I liked murder drones but now i hate it becausr once i watched pilot and episode 2 murder drones comics with uzi and V wearing sexual suits touching each other's bottoms stats appearing
Shouldn't we judge a piece of media based on the content of the media instead of the fan content surrounding it, I agree such comics are fucking disgusting but Glitch wasn't responsible for any of it.
It is pretty comedic, the biggest problem for me though is not explaining stuff in the show, like how Eldritch J wasnt J but the Absolute Solver, who i did not know was a seperate character but also the main antagonist otherwise, I like the dark jokes and the horror, those get A+’s from me
I never got the sense that worker drones valued their self-preservation much. Its more like they hyperfocus on certain aspects of everyday human life and make them their main personality with Uzis father just so happening to obsess over doors and security while the school bully doesn't even care that she is playing 2 murder drones against each other and the potential risks of such a plan as long as she keeps being the highlight of the evening (also i'm sure Doll set her up to do it instead) Even the stereotypical nature can be explained by the drones immitating human culture but not really getting it on a deeper level, heck, they cannot have a deeper understanding of themselves because their worker drone program prevents them from gaining self-awareness while all the absolute solver-powered drone characters are much more complex in their behaviour
I dont think the lack of emotional stakes even stops at just the comedy. I wouldn't even agree that it's the main cast whose safety we are supposed to care about. There are plenty of situations where it would've made sense for someone to die, but didn't due to it being inconvenient for the plot (V and J coming at just at the right moment for N to hide Uzi, Khan's death turning out to be a hologram, J coming back after she already died twice, and more), to the point where the audience will just dismiss every future situation where they might be in danger as something not worth worying about. I feel as tough the show would only make sense to be viewed with a nihilistic perspective, where the main cast are basically invincible, and thus can only find actual meaning trough each other (for example, Uzi was way more distressed when there was a chance N might think differently of her than when she was literally about to die).
I mean episode literally n first encounter with uzi with is visual sensors indentifying she has plot armor like other protagonist. So from that point we know uzinhas plot armor
The jokes and seriousness feels more polarizing makes me not care about the story and the seriousness ruins a bit of the jokes And going into the story kinda give me a headache with how much jumping around it does
I watched the first three episodes and liked it, because there was still serious moments. by episode four though, Ive been losing interest just because the series feels more like sole comedy.
I will just say one thing, compare to most tv series now it is briliant show in every aspect. No political shit, 0 ideology just a lot of violance and silly, sometimes dumb humor something to relax with, i would even say it remind me kinda about "Tom & Jerry" but of course with plot and much more characters
I really hope they make the next ep more serious and alot of horror. Comedy is fine to me but too much of it kinda annoys me. Not saying that I'm not a fan of comedy or hating on the series but putting alot of comedy in an episode where there's alot of horror kinda just makes me not want to watch it. But no matter what I'll continue watching the series. But that's just my opinion on the new ep.
I’ve never really found the comedy to be much of an issue, me personally I knew v was always going to undergo change of some kind, but her intimidating aspects are still there. I still know that if she snaps, she’ll end up massacring everyone With the camp counselor moment it was her playing along to be closer to uzi so she could learn about how to stop Doll, V seems to be a character who despite her comedic moments has her own personal agenda that the comedy is revealing, and the horror moments are making obvious V has been my favorite character simply because of the fact she’s intimidating and we know she’s hiding something, but also has comedic factors that allow us to see what she’s doing is only for herself
Even if Murder Drones is said “too comedic”, I will always enjoy this show no matter what. This is why I don’t really dig deep into the episodes themselves and just enjoy them as they are because then it might come to a point like this where my Murder Drones rating goes down slightly
I'm pretty sure they were programmed to kill every worker drone out there just to make sure no worker drones with AS would survive because they can hide their Absolute Solver powers, I believe that the company sent Murder Drones to kill worker drones with Absolute Solver even if it means having to kill every single worker drone, even the ones without Absolute Solver, why else would humans care about runaway AIs that live peacefully on Copper-9 all by themselfs? Company clearly knew there were worker drones with Absolute Solver left on that planet.
Even j said to n in episode 1 worker drones are corrupted and thats whyvthe company sent them. Based on a lot of reaction videos see some people tend to just watch and not look at finer details a just watch the action. Based on episode 1 people probably will just watch for action to take seriously. Which imo is fixed mostly with episode 3 and some parts of 4
@@tapulu first V scratches right over where the solver symbol is on Uzi... And also V says they need to do their jobs and this thing will leave them alone. She says they have to do their jobs while slowly moving away from the other worker drones
2:45 It seems like the class's sudden decision to go to the disassembly drones (after 2 popular kids step up) was more about being horrified by Uzi than about warming up to the thought of being near killers. It's as if they feel kind of bad for the disassembly drones having to be around Uzi, especially considering the "you can be our friend" line... Why are they so horrified of Uzi? That's some HARSH rejection by her classmates!
Well seeing that Uzi has very "crazy scientist" side and she did very dangerous things towards her classmates, I can understand why they may feel more safe with the disassembling drones that saved them from Doll (they didn't noticed Uzi at the ball because she's practically invisible for them).
Lil overview so far: Episode 1 "The pilot": Horror. Some comedy Episode 2: " Heartbeat": INTENSE horror. Episode 3: "The promening": Comedy, some horror. Episode 4: "Cabin Fever": A true mix. None really overlap each other. Episode 5: "Home": Horror with some comedy Episode 6: Neither. Romance and Sadness. Episode 7: the most terrifying, most heartbreaking episode in the damn series
episode 3 wasnt mostly comedy, it was definitely horror. rewatch the episode, uzi getting "kidnapped" by doll and lizzy, dolls families body parts in her room along with other murder drone parts, the very end scene at the table, the part where doll was killing everyone??? i dont think thats exactly "comedy"
Well said. If Murder Drones is indeed guilty of anything, it's not being serious enough. I'd like to see more high stakes involved with its stories and really show the tension of what's going on. Not to mention actually show the characters reacting accordingly to those who kill in it. I mean, could we not at least see some of the drones being terrified of Doll and Uzi after what they've done if nothing else? Seeing Khan just shooting the breeze with Doll in Ep 5 after her murderous rampage from Ep 3 just felt so jarring. It's as if he doesn't even care now, despite the fact he saw her try to harm Uzi not once, but twice. I mean, C'MON! I still love the series and all, but I really wish it'd stop having pointless murders in it and then have zero consequences for said murders.
i feel like this was a major problem the pilot episode had. don't get me wrong, it's a great pilot episode, and it still holds up today, but one of its main problems was that it had a hard time balancing comedy with the more serious/horrific moments. take the scene towards the end, where Uzi chastises Khan for leaving her to die. it's a powerful moment, but Liam still couldn't help but throw in an unnecessary joke in the middle of Uzi's heartfelt speech, kinda ruining the tone a bit. time and place, Liam! thankfully, the other episodes do a much better job with that (especially episode 5), but there still are a few moments here and there where the inconsistent tone can be a bit too glaring.
I think that the comedy is great but it seems to be used at the wrong times. For example recently in episode 5 Cyn was about to murder everyone at the gala but the dark mood was completely ruined by a joke about Tessa constantly interrupting Cyn with throwable objects. Terribly timed comedy that completely took away from the scene’s whole purpose. Same thing happened in every other episode where they make jokes right in the middle of an intense situation and completely kill the mood of it.
Kinda feels like a D&D party breaking a scene’s tension with humor, because they can and because it’s fun. Though in that case they can still feel engaged in the drama because they’re directly involved, so the humor doesn’t detract from the tension so much. Though not everyone enjoys that, whether it’s in a show or their party members.
My main problem with the show is the pacing. After episode 3 the episodes felt shorter then they actually are, it doesn’t really leave time to process what’s happening and it just kinda jumps from one thing to another. I feel like with a episode runtime of 25 minutes or more would solve that issue.
an episode that toned down on its plot and only focuses on the characters would honestly be great for this show, other than that i agree with your point
Objectively, I don’t think it’s “too comedic” or that the comedy is bad and distracts from the serious/horrific elements. It’s ultimately up to the individual, but Liam (and anyone else involved in the writing process) have their ideas for how each episode is going to go, and it’s only natural that it won’t all connect with everyone. This is one of the benefits to listening to other people’s opinions. Even if you don’t like something, more often than not, there will always be things to appreciate/respect about it. But then there’s the issue of expectations. After seeing the trailers and preview clips, I, for one, already had a general idea of how things would be handling the comedy and tone.
Liam made cliffside which was also pretty comedic so It was pretty clear how Murder Drones was gonna go and I don't really get how people can be upset by that.
To be truthful, I believe that the humor present in Murder Drones and other shows created by Liam is not very good. It consists mainly of abrupt fourth-wall breaks, awkward scenes, or ineffective meta-humor. It's often my least favourite aspect when in comes to his shows. Bur he has a remarkable talent for crafting gripping sequences that heighten the suspense for both the audience and the characters. Their greatness lies in the unpredictability of the outcomes. While we can be certain that the main character will survive, there is always uncertainty about the extent of their injuries or the fate of the supporting characters. Will the main character get majorly injured? Will one of the side characters die? Will nobody important die? We're never 100% sure about it and that's why I like Liam so much. In my view, the comedy aspect of his shows has always fallen short, and this has been a persistent issue with Murder Drones right from the very beginning. Although I appreciate the brutality depicted in the show and its dark setting, the excessive amount of comedy fails to hit the mark and there's too much of it to leave any room for the "horror" aspect of it. I hope they'll tone down the comedy in episode 5, but we'll have to wait and see. Also, I particularly enjoyed the background music for this video and felt it was worth acknowledging!
I agree. I think if he went full horror for one of his animations it would stand out among all the other web series out there. His self aware anime trope comedic style definitely isn’t for everyone. Which track did you enjoy more btw the first one in the first half of the video or the one in the second half?
I can back you up with that fact that Liam does a better job at horror. If you look at his old channel SSTWL you'll see impressive works he made. Examples of the three are Design, Yellow Halogen and Black Dogs. Sure his writing at the time has it's flaws but it's still very impressive non the less. If you want my personal opinion if he wants to lean more on comedy then he should have Cliffside greenlit some time in the future.
@@vanitymoth I agree! I find it particularly enjoyable when he goes all in on horror as he's simply great at it. Nevertheless, I'm not saying that he is incapable of being humorous. For instance, I find Khan Doorman's character to be hilarious whenever he's on screen. However, I do wish that he would either reduce his comedic performances or improve his skills in that area. Also, I enjoyed both of them equally because I didn't expect a track like "Disassembly Required" can be turned into such a relaxing melody!
For a show not made for kids I feel like they are the only ones who would actually enjoy this. It's too edgy for me, and your absolutely right about this. I don't care for any of the characters cause I genuinely can't tell what the vibe is. Like death isn't seen as anything serious. Uzi killing her class mates wasn't? Nobody was taking anything seriously so I genuinely just lost interested in seeing where anything goes with the show.
I think a lot of that has to do with generations. Old drones, like Uzi's dad are very afraid of murder drones. Only exeption being the teacher, who is, since the ep 1 shown to have "I'm done with this shit" outlook at the world. Younger generation is more concerned with their image than life and death, which might be commentary on current society. I remember hearing about a guy that tried to climb Everest recently. He had to be rescued and instead of thanking his saviours, he thanked his sponsors on YT. Shit like that makes me lose faith in my generation, tbh.
I do agree with most of the points in the video but I like the comedy and horror balance they have right now The whole reason why I stopped watching full metal alchemist is because the whole thing was too depressing so I stopped watching half way through I don't want murder drones to shift into entirely horror as it would lose what made it special to begin with But that's just my take I do understand where you are coming from and I agree with your statements to an extent have a good day btw .
As a fan of murder drones, I can see the reasons behind these issues, and also as a long time liamvickers viewer, I can understand the sentiment of these issues, along with its strengths. They show as a guide on how to better balance tension and comedy in a way that becomes believable and I like that it makes me think about how it could be better, even if my opinion of murder drones is more optimistic. If I were to harshly describe murder drones whiplash of tones, I would describe it as a guy wearing a puffer jacket and shorts with sandals. You’re either hot or your cold mate.
Honestly, this is something I've thought about for a long time but never quite put it into words. Huge props for being so clear and concise, although I will say I think the Worker Drones coming around to trust the Murder Drones could work if they spent more time flushing it out, which could be said about pretty much every other writing issue. Still though, w opinion and w video.
I find no major flaw in the comedy-based plotholes. The workers are robots built for labor. They value productivity above all else, and this is evident when you see a postcard next to khan’s door saying “doors>uzi.” While they have developed sentience, they still veer towards their initial programming. The reason they are so stricken with fear at the sight of one is because, according to Khan, they’ve lived through the explosion and being hunted by the drones. What sets the younger generation of drones apart is that they started from square one, developing personalities and, in lizzy’s case, my seething hatred and wish to stomp her face into mush. They are far more welcoming of the drones because they haven’t witnessed the horrors that khan and the other worker adults have; the same adults that got massacred by solver J. While the older generation sees a batch of relentless killers, the younger generation sees the man who saved them from V and J, the prom queen who got admiration from the *BIGGEST PRICK ON COPPER NINE,* and, in general, their higher ups. Of course, the reason they’re such idiots (as in splitting off into a dark forest in the middle of the night,) was because they were INCREDIBLY sheltered as kids. Another thing to note is the role call bit. The reason they’re so stricken with fear is less likely their fear of the drones and more likely their skepticism towards Uzi, who they all know started the thing. That last bit kinda seems like grasping at straws, but you get my point.
I think the reason Murder Drones is more humor oriented is probably because Liam doesn’t want to write that serious of a story like comparing to his much earlier works like black dogs for example is night and day but what I think it comes down to is that Liam thinks of his old story’s as edgy and cringy so he doesn’t want to make stuff like that
I'd rather watch an edgy show then a cringy one. It's pretty well written with the story, but overuse of comedy completely ruins the mood. Not to forget the jokes are way too long then they should be so when they don't hit its just awkward and cringe
1:30 WD's already witnessed one Murder Drone switching sides, and Lizzy did a whle presentation on why V did the same thing 5:09 Them being ridiculously stupid is a parody of like 90% of the characters in horror movies
I think there also a bit of a generational divide between older WD who experienced the atrocities committed by MD and newer WD who have lived their whole lives in the safety of the bunker.
tbh in episode 4 they missed an entire joke thats fits better with the lore like- they could've had a running gag about the worker drones worshipping the murder drones like gods out of fear and waiting for a chance to strike and at the end one of them could end up throwing a rock at v or something but no they couldn't save the lore
i think it really depends on how much more serious the show wants to be, cause honestly i like the level of comedy it’s at even if it sometimes is a bit out of place
I like the show for it's comedy and horror, however Episode 4 was very bad. The parts with Uzi turning into a zombie drone or whatever is good, but all the others felt like they were just trying to do Friday the 13th and it failed. It would have been much better if there was no camp trip, they just had workers stationed there as it could have been like a small settlement or something and Uzi snuck in for answers in some kind of old human control center. Then N and V followed after her in secret, V because she wanted to stop her from learning the truth, and N out of curiosity and concern. Then Uzi goes on a killing spree of the workers guarding the small mining town causing V and N to try and stop her. Then we could have ended by having something to do with Tessa and J, since the way they completely ignored that in Ep 4 was dumb and felt out of touch with what the plot set up in Ep 3.
You don't enjoy Helluva Boss, you don't enjoy Murder Drones... Is there any show you can enjoy ? Also the Murder Drones clearly aren't the main threat anymore. Now they try teaming up with Uzi and the Workers to understand what's going on with the Absolute Solver and humans. As Uzi said "We're moving forward together, or not at all". And eventually, they'll probably go on Earth to get revenge on humans for everything that they've done. As for V, she used to have a shy personality before being turned into a Murder Drone, and I feel like sometimes this personality she used to have shines through alongside a bit more empathy and emotion. This is her character arc, to interact with other people and become more sociable and happy. Like the canoe scene. It's clear that she was having genuine fun, more fun than she ever had when murdering the Drones. She started caring about what N thinks and sticking for them at the end of episode 4. Her arc is about realizing that there's more to life than murder and to become truly happy.
@@BoopidKadoopid Yeah but these shows are undeniably great, and yet he keeps pointing out flaws that are more often than not him not understanding the characters and the themes of these shows. And he keeps acting like these shows are extremely hard to enjoy because of these often minor flaws even though they still have a lot of good things and are very enjoyable. So if he can't appreciate these great shows, is he even capable of appreciating any show ? That's what I meant by "Is there any show you can enjoy ?" I think that he has unrealistic expectations and standards.
I agree on most of these points, although I will note that most of the show's best humor is relegated to small background moments. I actually think 'horror comedy' was done pretty well with Eldritch J, because while there is humor in the main scene, for the most part it comes from the monster instead of the characters. It's more believable to have the villain tell a joke when they're about to kill the hero than to have a hero tell a joke when they're about to be killed. The only real joke from the protagonists' side is the 'Thad's shindig' joke, which is quickly glossed over and abandoned.
If you were paying attention, you would notice that there is only 3 murder drones in the area, and one is publicly became friendly, one is killed and last one was chained in drop pod, last seen dragged away by a friendly one. There is nothing wrong with them not hiding anymore after all murder drones are indisposed.
I understand what you're saying, but these people had to deal with being terrorized for years upon years and may as well have generational trauma, some lost their family members and had to live in fear inside bunkers for god knows how long, so just because they saw one of their predators be a goody two shoes doesn't all of a sudden mean that all that its all is good now and that everything should be forgotten. just imagine humans inside the walls forgiving and peacefully coexisting with titans because they saw one of them fight against them, or us suddenly making friendships with lions and wild animals because you got rescued by a dog from one of them.
I think it is too comedic, I would measure it by the fact if I can tell if something is supposed to be a part of the big dark plot or just a joke. Which I usually can't, I even missed some big plot details because I was not paying attention due to the overwhelming amount of absurd things that make it harder to watch. And I wouldn't mind it "being too comedical", I like comedy, but the problem is murder drones is not funny. Most of the jokes are just painful, embarassing, stupid/cringe whatever but they're too forced and their quantity makes them all just lazy and devalue the story too much to be worth it, because they don't come off as that funny, more as just annoying. A self aware story has a massive potential to be funny and make us laugh, but only when done right, which it isn't here. Having a lot of dialogue be written to be pretty awkward (at least I hope it's intentional, otherwise the writers would have to be really bad for some of the scenes to exist) is just not neccessary and makes it annoying and painful to watch, like the pilot scene where N and Uzi are in the wrecked ship, many of N's lines are just intentionally bad, and I don't know why, character? N is not the character you want to come off as annoying. Humour? No, they are not funny, and if they are trying to be, then liam and glitch would have to have have terrible sense of humor. The fact they are robots? They already have schools and look to have human like loves and even desires, making them appear to have zero social skills is just awkward to accomlish something that is not needed.
I agree, the comedy feels pretty janky at times, and it often happens when it really shouldn’t, destroying the tension of horrifying and emotional moments. Episode 4 was the most egregious example.
I disagree tbh because think about it does every machine A.I apocalypse have to always be serious? Why can’t murder drones have that lightenment of joy and silly things? Not every story needs to be dark and depressing and that’s what’s wrong with that. It’s always about serious dangerous machines but can’t be creative and have laughs into the show? Murder drones is perfect for what it is. It’s already dark and creepy, how much more do some people want to make it boring with no personality just only the scares?
My biggest gripe is how the main character (who is a worker drone herself) is somehow she’s a extremely efficient fighter despite the fact she shouldn’t have this level of combat knowledge. She’s a builder drone, not a sec ops drone.
She pirated anime combat and processed it into her system. Which is believable for an advanced ai. The rest of the worker drones dont do this appearantly cuz they bandwagon on being safe behind doors and not needing to fight. Its made clear thst uzi has been teaching herself how to fight due to her not being complacent about the threat and forged her own railgun to near completion before getting the last part outside.
Thanks for this. I'm very much enjoying the show, but actually critically looking at things is always useful, as long as it doesn't detract from enjoyment.
In my opinion, it's not that the main threat is taken less and less seriously every episode, it's that the main threat swaps every episode. We've had N, V and J in episode 1, the strange hologram creating robot in episode 2, Doll in episode 3, and technically Uzi in episode 4. The only episode to break that trend was episode 5, but even then it didn't feel the same and we had a new main threat. The main threat will probably constantly be shifting throughout the series.
cyn technically was "the strange hologram creating robot", so it seemed to be a reoccurring threat. although all of this was in a flashback-like setting so i cant say if it really counts.
man you are really underrated, also yeah hopefully episode 5 is better then episode 4 in more ways then it just looking better. (n x uzi is worring still)
A lot of people are commenting and saying the story isn't being taken seriously, but y'all have spoken *WAAAAAAAAAY* too soon. By ep 7 everything gets so serious that the comedic parts are begged for (by me at least). The stakes are higher than ever and the characters are serious and everything suddenly becomes so *real* and harsh.
This isn't an issue only with Murder Drones but is a excellent example of it. A lot of recent series has the issues of "Lol look at me I'm so funny." This show really hit deep for me with this problem because the original creator the series, Liam Vickers had a totally different feel for the original source material it was based on called "Internecion Cube". It had a lot of body horror and deep lore. Sure he's ok with the series "Murder Drones" as he had a hand in creating it but.. it just feels ruined by the LOLOLOLOL funny that so many series do now a days. I hope Liam Vickers does something in the future because I really enjoyed his animations.
You do realize that Liam Vickers is the one writing the plot and story for all the episodes of Murder Drones. He is the one who gets the final say on what is or is not included in the episodes. Liam is the one who is intentionally putting humour into this series out of his own volition, he is not being forced to include comedy, he *wants* it in Murder Drones. Though yes, I do agree that Liam had a different vision for Internecion Cube, he just could not get the sponsorship to finish that. Internecion Cube is still a different story all together and should not be compared with a show that is getting full production thanks to GLITCH productions, while it is still in its writing stage.
"Bendy" is an action and horror survival game, so yes. Actually, this is a horror show, but the authors never tried to scare you. No one needs an element of horror in this show, so let people call it horror, even if it's not
What do you mean when the show doesn't make sense and this is the main sense? It's like I'm going to say that the show is bad and you're going to tell me that it's meant to be that way. In episode 4, the murder dron killed Uzi's classmate and no one cares, but on the contrary - everyone became attached to the Murder Drones and rejoiced with them. So why shouldn't I care when the Uzi is dead? Because she has a father? The rest of the classmates also had parents and they would never find their corpses.
There's only a couple characters that could have a big and serious case,one main one that screams out is Doll,she has her own funny scenes, but it isn't overshadowing her. If i had to choose who to be the main antagonist in the show, it would have to be Doll. Im a little bit biased,but still, she has the best personality and backstory, she is also the first real serious fight the drones had for more then 3 minutes. I really hope they don't ruin Doll, since in Episode 5 "Home" she just appears,argues and runs off to throw some green "key" bug at Tessa and J. *Two characters that also might be the other antagonists* Cyn and Eldrich J are by far the worse when it comes to not being comedic, and being serious,the only time Cyn could of been serious was when she was destroying the Gala,which was ruined by her being cut off by tessa every few seconds,before transforming into her Solver Beast form. J was the 2nd fight Uzi and N had,but it only lasted a good 3 minutes at most,I do love how she manipulated Uzi into thinking J killed her mom and dad,but the fight was more so on the funny part instead of serious. Also i love doll so mpth.
Since I like murder drones (although I’m not obsessed with it), N’s face on the thumbnail is the exact mood I’m in when I’m criticizing the show or any show that I personally enjoy for that matter 😅 (I know using emojis is pretty outdated)
Honestly I stopped watching a few episodes in because it was a bit jarring how the main character’s entire goal is that she wants to kill humans for what they did to drones but then surrounds herself with murderers and kills some drones herself.
Her objective to kill all humans has changed to finding out more about the AS and her mother. The whole kill all humans deal has never been mentioned after the beginning of ep2. On top of that, Uzi knows that the MDs had no choice but to do their job, her short speech in ep3 shows that she puts all the blame on the people behind the MDs, not the MDs themselves.
@@insert-joke-name that doesn’t really erase the whole issue that she is completely unempathetic to fellow drones and didn’t even flinch when she found out she killed some of them, only upset that some boy was talking to another girl
@@Birdyboys I dont think Uzi ever killed any worker drones outside of completely going mad from the absolute solver in episode 4. Plus in the same episode, she even expressed guilty for killing some of her classmates though N did brushed it off as something normal.
@@Schnootzel she didn’t. She was upset that she was acting so weird. It was played off as a joke that she wasn’t really bothered that she killed her classmates and was just embarrassed that N saw her go crazy.
@@Birdyboys she pretty much did not feel good or unfazed about killing others. plus those people she killed shoned and alienated her and chose the disassembly drones over trusting her words. Uzi literally helped dave them from j and those same people aside from thad still treated her like an outcast and still called her a freak. Hard to feel empathy for to people who outright continuously show you disservice. Plus episode 2 shows uzi drew plans on her design for the fixed up version of the pod to go to earth. The point based on her experiences and meeting tessa in episodes to come uzi might change her mind.
you said that horror and comedy is something very hard to make work together 3:33, and first of all, agreed, but yet, it's necessary. horror with humor might be hard to pull off, but horror without any sort of comedy break points is even harder to pull off satisfyingly even if on the surface that doesn't seem so. id like to compare it with an action film with no dialogue whatsoever, imagine that, maybe you could pull that off for sure, but a rollercoaster that only goes down is hardly better than one with hoops and turns and calm slow parts and fast paced ones. so humor is weirdly necessary in horror, make it a balanced dance of the two, and a work will come out very satisfying. now, in the case for murder drones, imo the problem is that you can feel like the show REALLY wants to dip its toes on something thats not just funny edgy humor, and get into something more intricate and nuanced, yet, the way the humor is done really undermines what that could be, which is why i loved it when you said that the show isn't too comedic, its just not serious enough when it needs to be. otherwise, i feel as if the show is pretty good even with these tonal imbalancing from the time to time
Murder drones are probably the worst show with humor. The only thing worse than this show can probably be the game of Undertale, where the humor is even worse
I think the real issue is consistency of character, there's nothing wrong with comedy but when the worker drones genuinely don't seem to care for their own lives (A topic that should be taken seriously) that should be handled better. For instance, the scene where the worker drone finds out that every object in the room including the coffee was a hologram was really silly and funny, and still indicated areas of self aware meta comedy on how characters might not see the obvious danger. The difference is the drones flocking to V is it felt like it didn't serve any purpose outside of keeping the narrative of the episode going. It wasn't a moment of aware comedy but rather felt disjointed.
Speaking of the worker drones the fact that we’re blandly told not to care about them because comedy (never mind the fact that our central protagonist is a worker drone) infuriates me because they are the ones that are suffering the most out of everyone
I think the biggest And really only flaw with the show is the runtime, Everything happens way too fast, If each episode had at least 5 more minutes Of runtime I say The flaws People complain about will disappear
@@GappE8 yeah but they never showed them going off around other workers before 4 just in rooms alone, only thing I can think of is her hacking into someone but no seemed to care.
V is not psychotic or crazy. She is messed up against her will. She is not going to change, she is going to drop pretense and get better. She started as shy and lovable nerd like a N, but... Watch episode 5.
Thank you. I legitimately had to stop watching this show because I couldn’t take the serious portions seriously because any stakes they could have were nearly immediately underplayed by the existence of the Murder Drones in the workers society (one specifically built to be a safe haven away from the Drones) actively killing civilians with no more than a “hey, that’s not cool”. I find the comedy hilarious, but I physically can’t take it seriously when it tries to and that hurt my watching experience so much. I looked this up specifically to see if anyone agreed with me or if I was just insane. Thank you for validating me.
Always gratifying to see my videos help someone in some way. I recommend watching my episode 5 review, where I touch base on the comedy in that episode.
As much as I love the Murder Drones, this is a problem I have about the show. The comedy and serious/horror aspect of the show are not balanced at all.
I haven't really seen anyone think the same thing as me, so I'll go ahead and say it here. In Episode 4, I felt like it was really weird that Uzi's classmates seemed to be *terrified* of her, more so than they were of the murder drones. For me, this actually did hurt my enjoyment of the episode, and I often describe it as "50% amazing and 50% bad"
They stopped seing the murder drones as... well, murderers, and more as just other robots who also kill. Ok my arguement sounds dumb so lemme make it better. The classmates simply got used to the murder drones. They knew what they were, and they hadn't done too many bad things since Uzi befriended one of them, so to those idiots it would seem as though the murder drones are cool now. But, despite acting similar to a murder drone, the form Uzi takes in episode 4 is completely new to them, and even then, they aren't as terrified.
@@logangoetz4319 I mainly mean at the beginning of the episode, the classmates seem terrified of Uzi, as if its pre-pilot and they are face to face with a murder drone
@@thematriarch-cyn Well i have a *Theory* as to why 🤓👈 Considering Uzi got the [AS] in Ep 3 we see her not prone to it yet, but in Ep 4 we see her already mastered most of its abilities, how tho? Since we are talking about *Drones* here, Machines that have sentience, She probably figured and opened a CMDS (viewing available *'commands'* ) as to why she can do Scripts easily. Or a more Logical Approach, basically a Offscreen Training with Uzi using the [AS] in her Home or *School,* Not to mention a 'Figure' with the name of "Doll" basically killed and caused Panic half of the Residence so seeing the exact abilities of Doll IN Uzi prob shit themselves, Which is probably why her Classmates are afraid.
I like the series, and have been a big fan of Liam's work since Cliffside, but there was something about seeing V shoot a teenager (robot or no) several times in an episode with no reaction form the others that didn't sit right. It didn't put me off to the show, but the teens really should have had more self preservation than what was presented that episode. Though I'll admit, seeing the one be casually annoyed about a missile landing near her was pretty funny, but that might have been funnier because she actually survived it.
To answer the question on "do I take this show seriously or not", I don't think Murder Drones is meant to be taken TOO seriously. I do personally appreciate the comedy, given if this show was just full on dark and gloomy, I think it would drive people away, but there is a time for "just horror" and "just comedy." With that being said, the prom scene is taken a little out of context, given the drones likely believe she's fine now because V is "chill" with Lizzy, and later in episode 4, to be chill with the Thad, schools cool kids. It's also important to remember that these drones are younger, and most were likely not to exposed to the violence of the Disassembly Drones. As for episode 4, I must admit as much as I liked it, that it is one of the weaker episodes, especially the beginning. A drone was killed right on the spot, and it causes a lot of fear amongst them, yet when they see Uzi (who everyone likely knows as the "weird kid"), as well as Lizzy and Thad by them, their immediately. Had the students been more uncomfortable rather then scared of Uzi, and if V did something like throw a drone in the air but then catch him, I think it would have worked better. The reason the class is there feels a little forced as well but I can get passed it, however, its important to realize that (as far as know) only 3 drones were present, with 1 being "dead" and the other 2 being seen as more friendly (ish), so they likely assumed it was safe to go out again. SPOILERS FROM HERE ON, WATCH EPISODE 5!! I think episode captures the darkness of the Murder Drones universe better, as it really does capture its horror side more then comedic. Seriously, that scene with the crows peaking at a drone made me so uncomfortable, and when the guy out right stabs a worker drone with a fork just made me feel a little sad towards him, but it also had the scene where Khan walks in thinking its a sleep over or Doll is a friend was funny, and perfectly fit. I think this succeeded where episode 4 didn't, seeing a drone be killed in or danger should bring some kind of terror or fear to us, as Rebecca and Darren are established (yet minor) characters like Braden, Emily, and Sam, so we got a feel of what their like, thus are in shock when Uzi goes on massacring them. The problem is like I said before... two drones are killed out of comedy, now yes, they aren't well established, or even spoke, thus it didn't feel the same as well Rebecca is torn in half, but it still is a little back and fourth on how were suppose to feel (unless that's the point).
Tbh as a fan of meta runner it didn't really occur to me as that show had alot of comedy in it. But newer people came to murder drones so it makes sense
It always felt really weird to me cuz in the first episode they seemed terrified and traumatized but then a couple episodes later they kill an entire Bus full of children and they kind of just shrug and "Oh,Well" 🙃
Also thought it was weird that in the same episode everyone acted super scared of Uzi but not the literal murder machines?
I belive they try to get elong with the murder drones cause theyr "safespot" still has a giant hole in the ceileng wich means if the murder drones wanted to they could kill them all one way or another
But shouldn't they know N and Uzi are friends and by association shouldn't they try and be nicer to her? Try and suck up to her a little as to not get murdered?
Yeah the consistency is a bit off there, but I’ve only seen a few episodes so far so it might boomerang back. The main used joke of the first episode IS about repressing stuff
You were right, the tone shifted a lot, like there is too much plot armor, too much shipping , and too much comedy
The action scenes and the "sad" scenes switch up, even the characters.
Uzi wanted to :
Save worker drones
Kill all disassembly drones
Kill just v
Kill all humans
Kill doll
Find out about her powers (herself killing worker drones, which she was insisting on protecting)
Find out more memories
The pilot and the secodn episode were all more serious, any character would die any time, disassembly drones were a threat, and worker drones felt weak and were struggling
By the fourtg episode nobody carse anymore about disassembly drones, worker drones dying is just normal and worker drones have superpowers, also it doesnt fell like there is a society other than uzi and her dad and her school, the world feels lackluster, the action feels pointless, and the comedy is fine (i find it very funny) the characters are inconsistent and the pacing is way too fast (by the fifth episode you understand basically nothing if you dont watch lore videos, other than that the comedy is great, the ideas are very creative and the animation is top notch, its just sad seeing a big downgrade
I canostly agree with you except for the too much shipping part. Maby in the fanbase but in the episodes it is only a few scenes per episode so it doesn't overshadow anything else.
I love this show, even episode 4 wasn't as bad to me, but I do hate that the comedy almost overshadows the horror. Though it doesn't bother me too badly for some reason. I even want to incorporate elements of Murder Drones into my hypothetical horror games; one of my monsters is very inspired by episode 1 V and solver J. And I even watnted to make the art style for one of my hypothetical games a mixture of the environments of Murder Drones made in a Tim Burton-like style.
I would definitely play that. Keep us updated of how development of it goes. ^-^
@@vanitymoth I will! Also, I already came up with the story and what type of game it is (survival horror) I just need to find a good game engine for it. Currently, I have my eyes set on Unreal Engine 5, having Godot and RPGMaker as plan b if UE5 ends up going terrible. Just know that I won't use Unity. Also, my game was conceived out of spite of Hello Neighbor, and now that I've started getting into my Resident Evil phase, I found lots of similarities between my hypothetical game and Resident Evil 7, AKA my favorite one before finding RE: Village.
@@malachimccarty6270 I’m trying to envision it. Would it be a small sandbox where your actions will trigger events kinda like hello neighbor or a bigger landscape that you can explore while being hunted down kind of like resident evil 2? Since you like RE7 I presume it would be first person so would you get a weapon to defend yourself or would you have to be super stealthy?
@@vanitymoth You're very much right with some of that. There will be a giant sandbox map, but once the player gets to the "neighbors house" (a giant mansion-like house in the middle of the woods), they're condensed to that area of the map. And yes, stealth and first-person POV will be a thing in my game, and I'm trying to find ways for the player to defend themselves, but I just find that my game idea has a bit of a Southern American aesthetic to it, and the main monster is less like the neighbor and more like Jack Baker. And yes, stealth will be a huge part of the game. Also, I'm thinking of adding some representation to my game. For example, the character you play as is an Indian-American trans man.
i very much agree with that first sentence. How am i supposed to care about the drones running for their life when chased by Uzi, if a moment before one got killed by their own classmate, and no one cared?
I agree with the video allot but i always need to think about how comedy is the best way to push dark messages thats why dark humor is often so funny jet dark when you think about it. Tho i also agree that they need to add more "khan lets uzi die" kinda scenses even if i hate some characters after watching these scenes a second time again.
It's always been a comedy, at least somewhat. The only difference is that the newer jokes tend to land more for me. It might be different from previous Glitch stuff, but it's very much in line with all of Liam Vickers' previous work.
I honestly hope GLITCH/Liam sees this. It’s full of genuine criticism that points out the pros and cons with the show’s comedy.
Oh thank goodness, other reviewers weren’t talking about how comedy-heavy and ruins its own mood
They want us to care about a narrative, a mystery, relationships and the emotions of the main cast. The show undermines its own tone so often. Is the AS an actual threat or not? Is it supposed scary or not? Why is this crazy AI made of fleshy corpse tendrils a vehicle for comedy?
I feel more and more like they were leaning towards horror but slowly moved toward comedy, but still wanted horror. They don't really mix well together. Having both at equal amount conflict with each other, and having more of one just undermines the other.
I don't really find this a problem with Murder Drones, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I look for 2 things in my shows: Comedy and Action. Murder Drones has both of these. Hence why I love it so much.
I actually like the way comedy is handled in MD, to me that's what makes it entertaining and also because since all the episodes as of right now are supposed to be parodies of popular horror movies i think interrupting scary scenes with jokes and making characters stupid on purpose is what makes parodies of horror movies good in general
I personally think the guys at glitch should see this video. And quite frankly I felt a little cheated in a way to not see the drones act more ironically "Human" resulting in more impact and hmph you know more to lose more at stake, more stress on our hero's to succeed and impact when they mess up. I think if it decided to go for nuance as appose to either horror or comedy would enable them to wright an overall a superior product. in the end why I would like to hear criticisms to begin with is because I care about the subject at hand. Otherwise It doesn't concern me, but I genuinely don't want another wasted product. So liam. For the sake of your brain child, take a little more time to make the best show you can. Thank you for listening to my ted talk.
I’ve really enjoyed some of the concepts that the show has to offer. Horror and comedy really could go hand in hand if handled properly, some of the lore is really interesting, and some of the comedy could’ve been great if it was leveraged more effectively.
I have two main problems with the show, one is the tonal inconsistency that you’ve mentioned, and the other is the hop-and-skip writing. When I started watching ep. 2 for the first time, I genuinely thought that I accidentally skipped ep. 2 and was watching ep. 3 based on how little connects eps 1 and 2, and this problem has remained consistent. I sometimes feel like entire scenes are missing that would give sometimes crucial context to the scenes that would go after, a huge one for me is the beginning of ep. 5.
Another major problem, its terrible at conveying important plot points in a lear and concise way, leading to heavy confusion as the series goes on. I shouldn't have to watch breakdown videos of every episode to understand the whole plot
as a casual viewer, i can confirm i never tought about this, and disagree with the point that its to comedic
gimmie entertainment and ur good
How murder drones is going is slightly annoying, they're chasing after
completely different plots and abandoning the very interesting one they already had
whilst completely 180ing the tone of the series through being over comedic.
it's kind of like if Attack on Titan's first few episodes were the same, but then
the entire series forgot and soon downplayed the titans and then focused on
relationship dramas, every titan attack played off as a "Monster of the week"
kind of thing, everyone making jokes whilst fighting titans as if it weren't a big deal
suddenly and them chasing some completely new threat somewhat related
to the titans like if Eren soon uncovered that paradise island was a giant turtle
and it was being attacked by a super disease somewhat like the spider man symbiote
which infects and controls living creatures, including titans.
it would've worked but it definitely would not have been the series that came to be
and that is all due to aot having a vision, a path of such to direct where the story will
go and what to do and not do. it also doesn't help Glitch production's case as they arn't
controlled by any actual corporate bureaucrat, which is nice so that the creators are free
to make what they want but is also bad as there is no one who will really hold them back
from making decisions that may not work besides from Kevin and luke.
They don't have an issue with going camping in the middle of the night because of this assembly from my threat anymore mostly
Bruuh taking robot life for comedic purpose is just uhh bruh moment lol
Idk there are some comedic moments but most of it is in background so when watching an episode you will most likely not notice it and when you start to dig, you will have some stuff to laugh about so I would say no its perfect.
I liked murder drones but now i hate it becausr once i watched pilot and episode 2 murder drones comics with uzi and V wearing sexual suits touching each other's bottoms stats appearing
Shouldn't we judge a piece of media based on the content of the media instead of the fan content surrounding it, I agree such comics are fucking disgusting but Glitch wasn't responsible for any of it.
It is pretty comedic, the biggest problem for me though is not explaining stuff in the show, like how Eldritch J wasnt J but the Absolute Solver, who i did not know was a seperate character but also the main antagonist
otherwise, I like the dark jokes and the horror, those get A+’s from me
The point is to be a horror joke on what there makeing in the episodes
It ain’t funny if no one’s laughing
Well that can be your problem
@@bullymaguire-cu7ebhumour really not good in this series
this was made the day before the release of ep 5
This video should be titled, “Supporting Murder Drones criticism, and then destroying it” lol
I never got the sense that worker drones valued their self-preservation much.
Its more like they hyperfocus on certain aspects of everyday human life and make them their main personality with Uzis father just so happening to obsess over doors and security while the school bully doesn't even care that she is playing 2 murder drones against each other and the potential risks of such a plan as long as she keeps being the highlight of the evening (also i'm sure Doll set her up to do it instead)
Even the stereotypical nature can be explained by the drones immitating human culture but not really getting it on a deeper level, heck, they cannot have a deeper understanding of themselves because their worker drone program prevents them from gaining self-awareness while all the absolute solver-powered drone characters are much more complex in their behaviour
Ngl one of the MANY reasons why i dont find the appeal in murder drones
Murder drones did inspire me to write a similar story without comedy.
I dont think the lack of emotional stakes even stops at just the comedy. I wouldn't even agree that it's the main cast whose safety we are supposed to care about. There are plenty of situations where it would've made sense for someone to die, but didn't due to it being inconvenient for the plot (V and J coming at just at the right moment for N to hide Uzi, Khan's death turning out to be a hologram, J coming back after she already died twice, and more), to the point where the audience will just dismiss every future situation where they might be in danger as something not worth worying about.
I feel as tough the show would only make sense to be viewed with a nihilistic perspective, where the main cast are basically invincible, and thus can only find actual meaning trough each other (for example, Uzi was way more distressed when there was a chance N might think differently of her than when she was literally about to die).
I mean episode literally n first encounter with uzi with is visual sensors indentifying she has plot armor like other protagonist. So from that point we know uzinhas plot armor
Simply put, worker drones are generally pretty dumb.
The jokes and seriousness feels more polarizing makes me not care about the story and the seriousness ruins a bit of the jokes
And going into the story kinda give me a headache with how much jumping around it does
I say this as some one who was here for the pilot and likes the show
I watched the first three episodes and liked it, because there was still serious moments. by episode four though, Ive been losing interest just because the series feels more like sole comedy.
How can you lose interest when only 5 episodes are out 💀
I will just say one thing, compare to most tv series now it is briliant show in every aspect.
No political shit, 0 ideology just a lot of violance and silly, sometimes dumb humor something to relax with, i would even say it remind me kinda about "Tom & Jerry" but of course with plot and much more characters
Lol if you saw the pilot then you would know that there is political stuff. 😂
stop complaining grr 😡😡😡
great video
I really hope they make the next ep more serious and alot of horror. Comedy is fine to me but too much of it kinda annoys me. Not saying that I'm not a fan of comedy or hating on the series but putting alot of comedy in an episode where there's alot of horror kinda just makes me not want to watch it. But no matter what I'll continue watching the series. But that's just my opinion on the new ep.
Also the next ep might be more of a fighting/action based ep. Sorry if I thought there will be alot of horror. That's just a speculation tho
Nuh uh
I think episode two was not scary
More question then answer
No
I’ve never really found the comedy to be much of an issue, me personally I knew v was always going to undergo change of some kind, but her intimidating aspects are still there. I still know that if she snaps, she’ll end up massacring everyone
With the camp counselor moment it was her playing along to be closer to uzi so she could learn about how to stop Doll, V seems to be a character who despite her comedic moments has her own personal agenda that the comedy is revealing, and the horror moments are making obvious
V has been my favorite character simply because of the fact she’s intimidating and we know she’s hiding something, but also has comedic factors that allow us to see what she’s doing is only for herself
Even if Murder Drones is said “too comedic”, I will always enjoy this show no matter what. This is why I don’t really dig deep into the episodes themselves and just enjoy them as they are because then it might come to a point like this where my Murder Drones rating goes down slightly
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It is hinted at in ep4 that the murder drones were not sent to kill the worker drones, but were sent to kill the AS drones.
I'm pretty sure they were programmed to kill every worker drone out there just to make sure no worker drones with AS would survive because they can hide their Absolute Solver powers, I believe that the company sent Murder Drones to kill worker drones with Absolute Solver even if it means having to kill every single worker drone, even the ones without Absolute Solver, why else would humans care about runaway AIs that live peacefully on Copper-9 all by themselfs? Company clearly knew there were worker drones with Absolute Solver left on that planet.
That makes a lot of sense
Even j said to n in episode 1 worker drones are corrupted and thats whyvthe company sent them. Based on a lot of reaction videos see some people tend to just watch and not look at finer details a just watch the action. Based on episode 1 people probably will just watch for action to take seriously. Which imo is fixed mostly with episode 3 and some parts of 4
Elaborate please, this sounds interesting and I missed that hint
@@tapulu first V scratches right over where the solver symbol is on Uzi...
And also V says they need to do their jobs and this thing will leave them alone. She says they have to do their jobs while slowly moving away from the other worker drones
2:45 It seems like the class's sudden decision to go to the disassembly drones (after 2 popular kids step up) was more about being horrified by Uzi than about warming up to the thought of being near killers. It's as if they feel kind of bad for the disassembly drones having to be around Uzi, especially considering the "you can be our friend" line... Why are they so horrified of Uzi? That's some HARSH rejection by her classmates!
Well seeing that Uzi has very "crazy scientist" side and she did very dangerous things towards her classmates, I can understand why they may feel more safe with the disassembling drones that saved them from Doll (they didn't noticed Uzi at the ball because she's practically invisible for them).
Lil overview so far:
Episode 1 "The pilot": Horror. Some comedy
Episode 2: " Heartbeat": INTENSE horror.
Episode 3: "The promening": Comedy, some horror.
Episode 4: "Cabin Fever": A true mix. None really overlap each other.
Episode 5: "Home": Horror with some comedy
Episode 6: Neither. Romance and Sadness.
Episode 7: the most terrifying, most heartbreaking episode in the damn series
And the cycle continues, and episode 6 is INTENSE horror
Very well said
episode 3 wasnt mostly comedy, it was definitely horror.
rewatch the episode, uzi getting "kidnapped" by doll and lizzy, dolls families body parts in her room along with other murder drone parts,
the very end scene at the table, the part where doll was killing everyone???
i dont think thats exactly "comedy"
Honestly I felt like episode 5 was definitely one of the more serious ones and that I appreciate
@@-sparkyalso yeah I do kinda hope for episode 6 to be intense horror with a good dose of action
Well said. If Murder Drones is indeed guilty of anything, it's not being serious enough. I'd like to see more high stakes involved with its stories and really show the tension of what's going on. Not to mention actually show the characters reacting accordingly to those who kill in it. I mean, could we not at least see some of the drones being terrified of Doll and Uzi after what they've done if nothing else? Seeing Khan just shooting the breeze with Doll in Ep 5 after her murderous rampage from Ep 3 just felt so jarring. It's as if he doesn't even care now, despite the fact he saw her try to harm Uzi not once, but twice. I mean, C'MON!
I still love the series and all, but I really wish it'd stop having pointless murders in it and then have zero consequences for said murders.
i feel like this was a major problem the pilot episode had. don't get me wrong, it's a great pilot episode, and it still holds up today, but one of its main problems was that it had a hard time balancing comedy with the more serious/horrific moments. take the scene towards the end, where Uzi chastises Khan for leaving her to die. it's a powerful moment, but Liam still couldn't help but throw in an unnecessary joke in the middle of Uzi's heartfelt speech, kinda ruining the tone a bit. time and place, Liam!
thankfully, the other episodes do a much better job with that (especially episode 5), but there still are a few moments here and there where the inconsistent tone can be a bit too glaring.
It’s the same problem that destroyed The Last Jedi
I think that the comedy is great but it seems to be used at the wrong times.
For example recently in episode 5 Cyn was about to murder everyone at the gala but the dark mood was completely ruined by a joke about Tessa constantly interrupting Cyn with throwable objects. Terribly timed comedy that completely took away from the scene’s whole purpose.
Same thing happened in every other episode where they make jokes right in the middle of an intense situation and completely kill the mood of it.
Kinda feels like a D&D party breaking a scene’s tension with humor, because they can and because it’s fun. Though in that case they can still feel engaged in the drama because they’re directly involved, so the humor doesn’t detract from the tension so much. Though not everyone enjoys that, whether it’s in a show or their party members.
i didn't mind it much, but it's a fair point
Really? I actually kinda enjoyed that moment, more so cuz Cyn's expression afterwards was "okay yeah screw this" once she killed the lights.
My main problem with the show is the pacing. After episode 3 the episodes felt shorter then they actually are, it doesn’t really leave time to process what’s happening and it just kinda jumps from one thing to another. I feel like with a episode runtime of 25 minutes or more would solve that issue.
an episode that toned down on its plot and only focuses on the characters would honestly be great for this show, other than that i agree with your point
@@muza-pe1183 exactly
Objectively, I don’t think it’s “too comedic” or that the comedy is bad and distracts from the serious/horrific elements. It’s ultimately up to the individual, but Liam (and anyone else involved in the writing process) have their ideas for how each episode is going to go, and it’s only natural that it won’t all connect with everyone. This is one of the benefits to listening to other people’s opinions. Even if you don’t like something, more often than not, there will always be things to appreciate/respect about it.
But then there’s the issue of expectations. After seeing the trailers and preview clips, I, for one, already had a general idea of how things would be handling the comedy and tone.
Liam made cliffside which was also pretty comedic so It was pretty clear how Murder Drones was gonna go and I don't really get how people can be upset by that.
To be truthful, I believe that the humor present in Murder Drones and other shows created by Liam is not very good. It consists mainly of abrupt fourth-wall breaks, awkward scenes, or ineffective meta-humor. It's often my least favourite aspect when in comes to his shows.
Bur he has a remarkable talent for crafting gripping sequences that heighten the suspense for both the audience and the characters. Their greatness lies in the unpredictability of the outcomes. While we can be certain that the main character will survive, there is always uncertainty about the extent of their injuries or the fate of the supporting characters. Will the main character get majorly injured? Will one of the side characters die? Will nobody important die? We're never 100% sure about it and that's why I like Liam so much.
In my view, the comedy aspect of his shows has always fallen short, and this has been a persistent issue with Murder Drones right from the very beginning. Although I appreciate the brutality depicted in the show and its dark setting, the excessive amount of comedy fails to hit the mark and there's too much of it to leave any room for the "horror" aspect of it. I hope they'll tone down the comedy in episode 5, but we'll have to wait and see.
Also, I particularly enjoyed the background music for this video and felt it was worth acknowledging!
I agree. I think if he went full horror for one of his animations it would stand out among all the other web series out there. His self aware anime trope comedic style definitely isn’t for everyone.
Which track did you enjoy more btw the first one in the first half of the video or the one in the second half?
Fun fact: the first season was gonna have a much bigger emphasis on comedy
I can back you up with that fact that Liam does a better job at horror. If you look at his old channel SSTWL you'll see impressive works he made. Examples of the three are Design, Yellow Halogen and Black Dogs. Sure his writing at the time has it's flaws but it's still very impressive non the less.
If you want my personal opinion if he wants to lean more on comedy then he should have Cliffside greenlit some time in the future.
@@vanitymoth I agree! I find it particularly enjoyable when he goes all in on horror as he's simply great at it. Nevertheless, I'm not saying that he is incapable of being humorous. For instance, I find Khan Doorman's character to be hilarious whenever he's on screen. However, I do wish that he would either reduce his comedic performances or improve his skills in that area.
Also, I enjoyed both of them equally because I didn't expect a track like "Disassembly Required" can be turned into such a relaxing melody!
I agree
For a show not made for kids I feel like they are the only ones who would actually enjoy this.
It's too edgy for me, and your absolutely right about this.
I don't care for any of the characters cause I genuinely can't tell what the vibe is.
Like death isn't seen as anything serious.
Uzi killing her class mates wasn't?
Nobody was taking anything seriously so I genuinely just lost interested in seeing where anything goes with the show.
Same
I think a lot of that has to do with generations. Old drones, like Uzi's dad are very afraid of murder drones. Only exeption being the teacher, who is, since the ep 1 shown to have "I'm done with this shit" outlook at the world. Younger generation is more concerned with their image than life and death, which might be commentary on current society. I remember hearing about a guy that tried to climb Everest recently. He had to be rescued and instead of thanking his saviours, he thanked his sponsors on YT. Shit like that makes me lose faith in my generation, tbh.
I do agree with most of the points in the video but I like the comedy and horror balance they have right now
The whole reason why I stopped watching full metal alchemist is because the whole thing was too depressing so I stopped watching half way through I don't want murder drones to shift into entirely horror as it would lose what made it special to begin with
But that's just my take I do understand where you are coming from and I agree with your statements to an extent have a good day btw .
As a fan of murder drones, I can see the reasons behind these issues, and also as a long time liamvickers viewer, I can understand the sentiment of these issues, along with its strengths. They show as a guide on how to better balance tension and comedy in a way that becomes believable and I like that it makes me think about how it could be better, even if my opinion of murder drones is more optimistic.
If I were to harshly describe murder drones whiplash of tones, I would describe it as a guy wearing a puffer jacket and shorts with sandals.
You’re either hot or your cold mate.
Honestly, this is something I've thought about for a long time but never quite put it into words. Huge props for being so clear and concise, although I will say I think the Worker Drones coming around to trust the Murder Drones could work if they spent more time flushing it out, which could be said about pretty much every other writing issue. Still though, w opinion and w video.
I find no major flaw in the comedy-based plotholes. The workers are robots built for labor. They value productivity above all else, and this is evident when you see a postcard next to khan’s door saying “doors>uzi.” While they have developed sentience, they still veer towards their initial programming. The reason they are so stricken with fear at the sight of one is because, according to Khan, they’ve lived through the explosion and being hunted by the drones. What sets the younger generation of drones apart is that they started from square one, developing personalities and, in lizzy’s case, my seething hatred and wish to stomp her face into mush. They are far more welcoming of the drones because they haven’t witnessed the horrors that khan and the other worker adults have; the same adults that got massacred by solver J. While the older generation sees a batch of relentless killers, the younger generation sees the man who saved them from V and J, the prom queen who got admiration from the *BIGGEST PRICK ON COPPER NINE,* and, in general, their higher ups. Of course, the reason they’re such idiots (as in splitting off into a dark forest in the middle of the night,) was because they were INCREDIBLY sheltered as kids. Another thing to note is the role call bit. The reason they’re so stricken with fear is less likely their fear of the drones and more likely their skepticism towards Uzi, who they all know started the thing. That last bit kinda seems like grasping at straws, but you get my point.
I think the reason Murder Drones is more humor oriented is probably because Liam doesn’t want to write that serious of a story like comparing to his much earlier works like black dogs for example is night and day but what I think it comes down to is that Liam thinks of his old story’s as edgy and cringy so he doesn’t want to make stuff like that
Murder drones is cringy tho
I'd rather watch an edgy show then a cringy one. It's pretty well written with the story, but overuse of comedy completely ruins the mood. Not to forget the jokes are way too long then they should be so when they don't hit its just awkward and cringe
@@stephaniejohnson5361 The old stories aren’t even all that edgy the problem was Liam thought it was and then moved away from that style entirely
@@polhakimiorio2745 I know it’s ironic isn’t it
1:30 WD's already witnessed one Murder Drone switching sides, and Lizzy did a whle presentation on why V did the same thing
5:09 Them being ridiculously stupid is a parody of like 90% of the characters in horror movies
I think there also a bit of a generational divide between older WD who experienced the atrocities committed by MD and newer WD who have lived their whole lives in the safety of the bunker.
tbh in episode 4 they missed an entire joke thats fits better with the lore like- they could've had a running gag about the worker drones worshipping the murder drones like gods out of fear and waiting for a chance to strike and at the end one of them could end up throwing a rock at v or something but no they couldn't save the lore
i think it really depends on how much more serious the show wants to be, cause honestly i like the level of comedy it’s at even if it sometimes is a bit out of place
I like the show for it's comedy and horror, however Episode 4 was very bad. The parts with Uzi turning into a zombie drone or whatever is good, but all the others felt like they were just trying to do Friday the 13th and it failed. It would have been much better if there was no camp trip, they just had workers stationed there as it could have been like a small settlement or something and Uzi snuck in for answers in some kind of old human control center. Then N and V followed after her in secret, V because she wanted to stop her from learning the truth, and N out of curiosity and concern. Then Uzi goes on a killing spree of the workers guarding the small mining town causing V and N to try and stop her. Then we could have ended by having something to do with Tessa and J, since the way they completely ignored that in Ep 4 was dumb and felt out of touch with what the plot set up in Ep 3.
I honestly don't know what's worse. Creepy femboy robots trying to kill me or the fandom of this show
You don't enjoy Helluva Boss, you don't enjoy Murder Drones... Is there any show you can enjoy ?
Also the Murder Drones clearly aren't the main threat anymore.
Now they try teaming up with Uzi and the Workers to understand what's going on with the Absolute Solver and humans. As Uzi said "We're moving forward together, or not at all".
And eventually, they'll probably go on Earth to get revenge on humans for everything that they've done.
As for V, she used to have a shy personality before being turned into a Murder Drone, and I feel like sometimes this personality she used to have shines through alongside a bit more empathy and emotion.
This is her character arc, to interact with other people and become more sociable and happy. Like the canoe scene. It's clear that she was having genuine fun, more fun than she ever had when murdering the Drones.
She started caring about what N thinks and sticking for them at the end of episode 4. Her arc is about realizing that there's more to life than murder and to become truly happy.
Good point but I think just because he has a problem with 2 or more web series shows doesn’t mean he doesn’t like anything.
@@BoopidKadoopid Yeah but these shows are undeniably great, and yet he keeps pointing out flaws that are more often than not him not understanding the characters and the themes of these shows.
And he keeps acting like these shows are extremely hard to enjoy because of these often minor flaws even though they still have a lot of good things and are very enjoyable.
So if he can't appreciate these great shows, is he even capable of appreciating any show ? That's what I meant by "Is there any show you can enjoy ?" I think that he has unrealistic expectations and standards.
He's just talking about how the show doesnt take serious moments seriously and he's kinda right. That doesnt mean he dislikes the show.
@@Oceane1803 makes sense
@@isaiah5519 You can't possibly say that after that last episode.
I agree on most of these points, although I will note that most of the show's best humor is relegated to small background moments. I actually think 'horror comedy' was done pretty well with Eldritch J, because while there is humor in the main scene, for the most part it comes from the monster instead of the characters. It's more believable to have the villain tell a joke when they're about to kill the hero than to have a hero tell a joke when they're about to be killed. The only real joke from the protagonists' side is the 'Thad's shindig' joke, which is quickly glossed over and abandoned.
Thad's shindig was a prom
No one in the show takes the "murder" seriously so I can't get invested. All these people die and no one cares
If you were paying attention, you would notice that there is only 3 murder drones in the area, and one is publicly became friendly, one is killed and last one was chained in drop pod, last seen dragged away by a friendly one.
There is nothing wrong with them not hiding anymore after all murder drones are indisposed.
If you were paying attention, there are major other points the vidoe made other than this.
@@redlegend7580 If you were thinking, you'd realize that not bringing those up means I don't have an issue with those.
I understand what you're saying, but these people had to deal with being terrorized for years upon years and may as well have generational trauma, some lost their family members and had to live in fear inside bunkers for god knows how long, so just because they saw one of their predators be a goody two shoes doesn't all of a sudden mean that all that its all is good now and that everything should be forgotten. just imagine humans inside the walls forgiving and peacefully coexisting with titans because they saw one of them fight against them, or us suddenly making friendships with lions and wild animals because you got rescued by a dog from one of them.
I think it is too comedic, I would measure it by the fact if I can tell if something is supposed to be a part of the big dark plot or just a joke. Which I usually can't, I even missed some big plot details because I was not paying attention due to the overwhelming amount of absurd things that make it harder to watch. And I wouldn't mind it "being too comedical", I like comedy, but the problem is murder drones is not funny. Most of the jokes are just painful, embarassing, stupid/cringe whatever but they're too forced and their quantity makes them all just lazy and devalue the story too much to be worth it, because they don't come off as that funny, more as just annoying. A self aware story has a massive potential to be funny and make us laugh, but only when done right, which it isn't here.
Having a lot of dialogue be written to be pretty awkward (at least I hope it's intentional, otherwise the writers would have to be really bad for some of the scenes to exist) is just not neccessary and makes it annoying and painful to watch, like the pilot scene where N and Uzi are in the wrecked ship, many of N's lines are just intentionally bad, and I don't know why, character? N is not the character you want to come off as annoying. Humour? No, they are not funny, and if they are trying to be, then liam and glitch would have to have have terrible sense of humor. The fact they are robots? They already have schools and look to have human like loves and even desires, making them appear to have zero social skills is just awkward to accomlish something that is not needed.
I'm pretty sure MD is meant to be a mix of comedic and violent.
Like- theres lore, like- legitimate lore, then theres the spoof.
I think episodes 4 and 5 have a Helluva Boss season 2 problem with the tone. However, episodes 1,2,3 and 6 balance it well IMO
I agree, the comedy feels pretty janky at times, and it often happens when it really shouldn’t, destroying the tension of horrifying and emotional moments. Episode 4 was the most egregious example.
I disagree tbh because think about it does every machine A.I apocalypse have to always be serious? Why can’t murder drones have that lightenment of joy and silly things? Not every story needs to be dark and depressing and that’s what’s wrong with that. It’s always about serious dangerous machines but can’t be creative and have laughs into the show? Murder drones is perfect for what it is. It’s already dark and creepy, how much more do some people want to make it boring with no personality just only the scares?
My biggest gripe is how the main character (who is a worker drone herself) is somehow she’s a extremely efficient fighter despite the fact she shouldn’t have this level of combat knowledge. She’s a builder drone, not a sec ops drone.
She pirated anime
@@thatconman751 to put it simply
She pirated anime combat and processed it into her system. Which is believable for an advanced ai. The rest of the worker drones dont do this appearantly cuz they bandwagon on being safe behind doors and not needing to fight. Its made clear thst uzi has been teaching herself how to fight due to her not being complacent about the threat and forged her own railgun to near completion before getting the last part outside.
Tbf she did said that she pirated those anime fight scenes and probably learned some stuff
She was infected
Thanks for this.
I'm very much enjoying the show, but actually critically looking at things is always useful, as long as it doesn't detract from enjoyment.
Yeah I slightly want to see a bit more serious stuff as well 😅
In my opinion, it's not that the main threat is taken less and less seriously every episode, it's that the main threat swaps every episode. We've had N, V and J in episode 1, the strange hologram creating robot in episode 2, Doll in episode 3, and technically Uzi in episode 4. The only episode to break that trend was episode 5, but even then it didn't feel the same and we had a new main threat. The main threat will probably constantly be shifting throughout the series.
cyn technically was "the strange hologram creating robot", so it seemed to be a reoccurring threat. although all of this was in a flashback-like setting so i cant say if it really counts.
@@bloomingbluex1750 Ah, thanks for reminding me what their name was.
man you are really underrated, also yeah hopefully episode 5 is better then episode 4 in more ways then it just looking better. (n x uzi is worring still)
A lot of people are commenting and saying the story isn't being taken seriously, but y'all have spoken *WAAAAAAAAAY* too soon. By ep 7 everything gets so serious that the comedic parts are begged for (by me at least). The stakes are higher than ever and the characters are serious and everything suddenly becomes so *real* and harsh.
This show still has a very comedic relief and this isn't funny in many situations ( especially 4 episode)
yeah i kind wanna see more scenes of the murder drones actually murdering drones and being ruthless not them being friends basicly
This isn't an issue only with Murder Drones but is a excellent example of it. A lot of recent series has the issues of "Lol look at me I'm so funny."
This show really hit deep for me with this problem because the original creator the series, Liam Vickers had a totally different feel for the original source material it was based on called "Internecion Cube". It had a lot of body horror and deep lore. Sure he's ok with the series "Murder Drones" as he had a hand in creating it but.. it just feels ruined by the LOLOLOLOL funny that so many series do now a days. I hope Liam Vickers does something in the future because I really enjoyed his animations.
You do realize that Liam Vickers is the one writing the plot and story for all the episodes of Murder Drones. He is the one who gets the final say on what is or is not included in the episodes. Liam is the one who is intentionally putting humour into this series out of his own volition, he is not being forced to include comedy, he *wants* it in Murder Drones. Though yes, I do agree that Liam had a different vision for Internecion Cube, he just could not get the sponsorship to finish that. Internecion Cube is still a different story all together and should not be compared with a show that is getting full production thanks to GLITCH productions, while it is still in its writing stage.
i mean am pretty sure they said season one would have an emphasis on comedy so next seasons may be deeper.
For me, MD isn't even a horror. There's nothing unsettling or scary about any of it. Most of the time I'm just tonally confused.
"Bendy" is an action and horror survival game, so yes. Actually, this is a horror show, but the authors never tried to scare you. No one needs an element of horror in this show, so let people call it horror, even if it's not
What do you mean when the show doesn't make sense and this is the main sense? It's like I'm going to say that the show is bad and you're going to tell me that it's meant to be that way. In episode 4, the murder dron killed Uzi's classmate and no one cares, but on the contrary - everyone became attached to the Murder Drones and rejoiced with them. So why shouldn't I care when the Uzi is dead? Because she has a father? The rest of the classmates also had parents and they would never find their corpses.
No hate, but no critic gonna make me dislike murder drones
I wouldn’t have it any other way. ^-^
oh would you look at that
V's arc has ended.
No body no kill
i couldn’t even finish the pilot because it just felt so… awkward? the show seems like a mess, i think ill stay blissfully ignorant in the meantime
There's only a couple characters that could have a big and serious case,one main one that screams out is Doll,she has her own funny scenes, but it isn't overshadowing her. If i had to choose who to be the main antagonist in the show, it would have to be Doll.
Im a little bit biased,but still, she has the best personality and backstory, she is also the first real serious fight the drones had for more then 3 minutes.
I really hope they don't ruin Doll, since in Episode 5 "Home" she just appears,argues and runs off to throw some green "key" bug at Tessa and J. *Two characters that also might be the other antagonists*
Cyn and Eldrich J are by far the worse when it comes to not being comedic, and being serious,the only time Cyn could of been serious was when she was destroying the Gala,which was ruined by her being cut off by tessa every few seconds,before transforming into her Solver Beast form.
J was the 2nd fight Uzi and N had,but it only lasted a good 3 minutes at most,I do love how she manipulated Uzi into thinking J killed her mom and dad,but the fight was more so on the funny part instead of serious.
Also i love doll so mpth.
Since I like murder drones (although I’m not obsessed with it), N’s face on the thumbnail is the exact mood I’m in when I’m criticizing the show or any show that I personally enjoy for that matter 😅
(I know using emojis is pretty outdated)
Maybe at 5k subs I’ll make memberships so we can have custom emojis. But until then use as many emojis as you want, I don’t think they’re that bad.
@@vanitymoth oh ok
This whole series would have been significantly better if the writer knew what “Bathos” was. He’s gotta get back to the drawing board.
Honestly I stopped watching a few episodes in because it was a bit jarring how the main character’s entire goal is that she wants to kill humans for what they did to drones but then surrounds herself with murderers and kills some drones herself.
Her objective to kill all humans has changed to finding out more about the AS and her mother. The whole kill all humans deal has never been mentioned after the beginning of ep2.
On top of that, Uzi knows that the MDs had no choice but to do their job, her short speech in ep3 shows that she puts all the blame on the people behind the MDs, not the MDs themselves.
@@insert-joke-name that doesn’t really erase the whole issue that she is completely unempathetic to fellow drones and didn’t even flinch when she found out she killed some of them, only upset that some boy was talking to another girl
@@Birdyboys I dont think Uzi ever killed any worker drones outside of completely going mad from the absolute solver in episode 4. Plus in the same episode, she even expressed guilty for killing some of her classmates though N did brushed it off as something normal.
@@Schnootzel she didn’t. She was upset that she was acting so weird. It was played off as a joke that she wasn’t really bothered that she killed her classmates and was just embarrassed that N saw her go crazy.
@@Birdyboys she pretty much did not feel good or unfazed about killing others. plus those people she killed shoned and alienated her and chose the disassembly drones over trusting her words. Uzi literally helped dave them from j and those same people aside from thad still treated her like an outcast and still called her a freak. Hard to feel empathy for to people who outright continuously show you disservice.
Plus episode 2 shows uzi drew plans on her design for the fixed up version of the pod to go to earth. The point based on her experiences and meeting tessa in episodes to come uzi might change her mind.
you said that horror and comedy is something very hard to make work together 3:33, and first of all, agreed, but yet, it's necessary. horror with humor might be hard to pull off, but horror without any sort of comedy break points is even harder to pull off satisfyingly even if on the surface that doesn't seem so. id like to compare it with an action film with no dialogue whatsoever, imagine that, maybe you could pull that off for sure, but a rollercoaster that only goes down is hardly better than one with hoops and turns and calm slow parts and fast paced ones.
so humor is weirdly necessary in horror, make it a balanced dance of the two, and a work will come out very satisfying. now, in the case for murder drones, imo the problem is that you can feel like the show REALLY wants to dip its toes on something thats not just funny edgy humor, and get into something more intricate and nuanced, yet, the way the humor is done really undermines what that could be, which is why i loved it when you said that the show isn't too comedic, its just not serious enough when it needs to be. otherwise, i feel as if the show is pretty good even with these tonal imbalancing from the time to time
Murder drones are probably the worst show with humor. The only thing worse than this show can probably be the game of Undertale, where the humor is even worse
I think the real issue is consistency of character, there's nothing wrong with comedy but when the worker drones genuinely don't seem to care for their own lives (A topic that should be taken seriously) that should be handled better. For instance, the scene where the worker drone finds out that every object in the room including the coffee was a hologram was really silly and funny, and still indicated areas of self aware meta comedy on how characters might not see the obvious danger. The difference is the drones flocking to V is it felt like it didn't serve any purpose outside of keeping the narrative of the episode going. It wasn't a moment of aware comedy but rather felt disjointed.
Speaking of the worker drones the fact that we’re blandly told not to care about them because comedy (never mind the fact that our central protagonist is a worker drone) infuriates me because they are the ones that are suffering the most out of everyone
Liam Vickers thinks horror IS comedy because he's a fricked-up individual, I think it's as plain as that.
I’ve seen real life pictures of Liam and you my good sir may in fact be correct.
I think the biggest And really only flaw with the show is the runtime, Everything happens way too fast, If each episode had at least 5 more minutes Of runtime I say The flaws People complain about will disappear
I found it weird how all the other worker kids were suddenly all more scared of Uzi then N and V in 4 after 3 like I thought they skipped a episode.
To be fair she did have god powers
@@GappE8 yeah but they never showed them going off around other workers before 4 just in rooms alone, only thing I can think of is her hacking into someone but no seemed to care.
V is not psychotic or crazy. She is messed up against her will. She is not going to change, she is going to drop pretense and get better.
She started as shy and lovable nerd like a N, but... Watch episode 5.
Ep5 was not out at the time.
Thank you. I legitimately had to stop watching this show because I couldn’t take the serious portions seriously because any stakes they could have were nearly immediately underplayed by the existence of the Murder Drones in the workers society (one specifically built to be a safe haven away from the Drones) actively killing civilians with no more than a “hey, that’s not cool”. I find the comedy hilarious, but I physically can’t take it seriously when it tries to and that hurt my watching experience so much. I looked this up specifically to see if anyone agreed with me or if I was just insane. Thank you for validating me.
Always gratifying to see my videos help someone in some way. I recommend watching my episode 5 review, where I touch base on the comedy in that episode.
*IT ISNT TOO COMEDIC ITS COMPLETELY FINE* 😡😡😡 /j
As much as I love the Murder Drones, this is a problem I have about the show. The comedy and serious/horror aspect of the show are not balanced at all.
I haven't really seen anyone think the same thing as me, so I'll go ahead and say it here.
In Episode 4, I felt like it was really weird that Uzi's classmates seemed to be *terrified* of her, more so than they were of the murder drones. For me, this actually did hurt my enjoyment of the episode, and I often describe it as "50% amazing and 50% bad"
They stopped seing the murder drones as... well, murderers, and more as just other robots who also kill.
Ok my arguement sounds dumb so lemme make it better.
The classmates simply got used to the murder drones. They knew what they were, and they hadn't done too many bad things since Uzi befriended one of them, so to those idiots it would seem as though the murder drones are cool now. But, despite acting similar to a murder drone, the form Uzi takes in episode 4 is completely new to them, and even then, they aren't as terrified.
@@logangoetz4319 I mainly mean at the beginning of the episode, the classmates seem terrified of Uzi, as if its pre-pilot and they are face to face with a murder drone
@@thematriarch-cyn
Well i have a *Theory* as to why 🤓👈
Considering Uzi got the [AS] in Ep 3 we see her not prone to it yet,
but in Ep 4 we see her already mastered most of its abilities, how tho?
Since we are talking about *Drones* here, Machines that have sentience,
She probably figured and opened a CMDS (viewing available *'commands'* ) as to why she can do Scripts easily.
Or a more Logical Approach,
basically a Offscreen Training with Uzi using the [AS] in her Home or *School,*
Not to mention a 'Figure' with the name of "Doll" basically killed and caused Panic half of the Residence so seeing the exact abilities of Doll IN Uzi prob shit themselves,
Which is probably why her Classmates are afraid.
@@anotherordinaryfellow6935 Or, a much simpler possibility...
BOO SPOOKY JUMPSCARE!
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I jumped out of my chair, run 4 miles off the east and shit myself, and puke at the same time,
You scared me.
I like the series, and have been a big fan of Liam's work since Cliffside, but there was something about seeing V shoot a teenager (robot or no) several times in an episode with no reaction form the others that didn't sit right. It didn't put me off to the show, but the teens really should have had more self preservation than what was presented that episode. Though I'll admit, seeing the one be casually annoyed about a missile landing near her was pretty funny, but that might have been funnier because she actually survived it.
It is a dark comedt buddy. I mean wtf did you expect?
To answer the question on "do I take this show seriously or not", I don't think Murder Drones is meant to be taken TOO seriously. I do personally appreciate the comedy, given if this show was just full on dark and gloomy, I think it would drive people away, but there is a time for "just horror" and "just comedy."
With that being said, the prom scene is taken a little out of context, given the drones likely believe she's fine now because V is "chill" with Lizzy, and later in episode 4, to be chill with the Thad, schools cool kids. It's also important to remember that these drones are younger, and most were likely not to exposed to the violence of the Disassembly Drones.
As for episode 4, I must admit as much as I liked it, that it is one of the weaker episodes, especially the beginning. A drone was killed right on the spot, and it causes a lot of fear amongst them, yet when they see Uzi (who everyone likely knows as the "weird kid"), as well as Lizzy and Thad by them, their immediately. Had the students been more uncomfortable rather then scared of Uzi, and if V did something like throw a drone in the air but then catch him, I think it would have worked better. The reason the class is there feels a little forced as well but I can get passed it, however, its important to realize that (as far as know) only 3 drones were present, with 1 being "dead" and the other 2 being seen as more friendly (ish), so they likely assumed it was safe to go out again.
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I think episode captures the darkness of the Murder Drones universe better, as it really does capture its horror side more then comedic. Seriously, that scene with the crows peaking at a drone made me so uncomfortable, and when the guy out right stabs a worker drone with a fork just made me feel a little sad towards him, but it also had the scene where Khan walks in thinking its a sleep over or Doll is a friend was funny, and perfectly fit. I think this succeeded where episode 4 didn't, seeing a drone be killed in or danger should bring some kind of terror or fear to us, as Rebecca and Darren are established (yet minor) characters like Braden, Emily, and Sam, so we got a feel of what their like, thus are in shock when Uzi goes on massacring them. The problem is like I said before... two drones are killed out of comedy, now yes, they aren't well established, or even spoke, thus it didn't feel the same as well Rebecca is torn in half, but it still is a little back and fourth on how were suppose to feel (unless that's the point).