Anyone remember how Reach allowed you to BUILD your own Spartan that was used for both the Campaign and Multiplayer and everything was earned through gameplay... man has things changed for the worst
It truly has man. Best part is some people think halo infinite has the best customization in any halo with 95% of armor is almost locked behind a paywall or timegate event
@@swampdocI think it does have the best customization in terms of just how much you can do, but you’re right. The paywall they put holds its potential down so much, and it’s a shame to see such a good armor system tarnished by greed and fomo.
@swoops7687 While that is true, the only big difference is that the halo reach was a complete game on launch, so having dlc maps was justifiable when it was each dlc map was only $10. Halo infinite was not a complete game on launch had many missing features, missing gamemodes, no forge, no spiltscreen, and no proper customization. It took them almost 2 years to even add firefight and infection into the game.
Man, y'all can criticize their bad moves with the shop and still realize that this is a video game and if people are choosing to buy skins instead of food and pay their electric bills, that's a separate issue.
@@fadedgeff the campaign was $60, they let those people go because they have bad business practices and they made $8M and 2M in revenue. The company chose to lay those people off and hide things behind a pay wall. The game didn't even come out finished. It took YEARS for it to come out bit by bit. no more pity for 343, they are a company that tripped game after game, they are not some children who have no idea what they're doing and how their decisions to fire people effect their lives and their final products.
@@fadedgeffdamn, didn't realise that over 5400 employees from other companies were helping 343i on this game. Maybe if you deepthroat them a little harder they'll give you a smiley face sticker.
Absolutely agree with you on being sick of multiplayer. I just want campaign content too. They always leave shit half finished. We never got a conclusion to Halo Wars 2, Awakening the Nightmare, and now Halo Infinite. Regularly released campaign dlc would have me coming back.
ya cause theyre so clueless and cant stick to sa story cause theyre so scared it wont please the fans so instead we get a bunch of hallowed out stories that could have probably been good
What do you expect the studios name is 343 As in the monitor that failed over and over and is constantly seeking redemption For his ring, to the master Chief then betrays him, then tried to redeem himself to humanity on a starship somewhere. They’re a studio that will always be stuck having to seek redemption.
I honestly don’t understand the demand for more story stuff. The campaign was so hollow and emotionally key-jangling, it made me sick. Its like 343 was trying to turn Halo into a Sony Exclusive movie game. Not to mention anything interesting happened off screen, Cortana sudden change in morality (even though shes still a monster), having Chief break his promise to her from 3, The Endless, Fernando, etc. 343 can’t write a good script to save their lives. The writing quality is on par with that Halo TV show, but at least 343 has Chief helmet stay on (though I bet you theyve wanted to take it off).
Another issue with the store (which you didn't seem to mention) is that they've gone back to the system of having NO way to earn Credits in game so - once players spend the last of their credits from the last full Battle Pass - it's straight back to their wallets for store content. Whether it's Microsoft's or 343's idea, WTF?!
Yeah but, it was only ever 1000 credits. So you could only ever earn back what you spent on the BP. So if you ever spent them anything in the store, you would have to buy more. Sooo...
343 has been trying to catch up with the fans and community lately, and you can see they've been trying their best, especially listening to ideas. When it comes to corporate greed? I'm blaming Microdick- I mean Microsoft on this one
Destiny 2 is also moving to the same model of short, more frequent rollouts of Chapters or Acts. Which makes sense why Infinite is price gouging the last people still playing. They're going to roll out a model like Destiny 2 where campaign and multiplayer is rolled out in short seasons. So people will have to pay less money, but it'll be more often. 88% of the gear being in the shop is going to be the standard going forward. My friends have already all bailed and this is definitely my exit. 07
We all do, but I guess there's more people who want multiplayer modes to slowly be added over two years??? Yeahhhh, sure 343. They have no idea how much money they're losing by not making campaign-centered content, I swear.
"Gimmicky live-service game that has its aesthetics watered down by microtransactions", is actually a perfectly apt description of Halo Infinite's multiplayer itself. 👍
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu You could buy Fallout New Vegas or Bioshock at 20$ but that amount of cash won't be good enough for more than a few cosmetic pieces in this game. Either way we already got confirmation that they're already "done" with this game and are working on the next one. I don't see the point in even playing this thing anymore. 10 years my tail section.
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhuFor real we need to stop using the term micro transactions. I remember back when entire map packs and DLC would cost $10 - $15. And skins would and cosmetics would cost $1-$3. And even back then we thought it was all an absurd scam. But now folks will shill out $20 for a single skin. What a joke.
They really just split the battle pass to sell it in the shop, decided to withhold all gameplay elements, and thought they could market that shit as a content update.
As soon as I logged on and saw that the BP was "free" I knew what was happening. Shame on me for thinking they wouldn't clearly make a money grab out of something that is obviously nostalgic to fans.
@@nickm5419 of course. How silly of me to expect a complete, narratively fleshed out single player experience from Halo. After all, Halo has always been about multiplayer, battle passes, and in game shops
how did so many FPS game makers forget how that simple little "level up" drove player engagement? I still get a little joy from the original MW2 level up guitar riff. Halo has always had similar systems to level up and unlock armor. As it is they tried to chase the BP trend to drive engagement and increase profits. It may have worked in the short term but the damage that infinite has done to the player experiance (and player expectations) for the next title is absolutely depressing. If the store had a "sale" page that rotated items in and out for 15-50% off (daily or weekly) and then the entire content library of individual items was available at all times at "normal" price. that would be an improvement. And if they gave you some ammount of currency every level up so that you could unlock that "perfect" armor combination for you. if those 2 things existed i would still be playing halo infinite. But as it is I am not expecting to ever come back. I have no want to "play" a game that only sees me as a cash flow number.
Are multiple "projects" really the right move? One of the biggest limiting factors and downfalls of infinite was poor resource allocation (temporary contractors, technical debt etc). Surely picking one big project with a dedicated, full-time team and consistent vision would be the right move?
"Projects" is a term that comes with zero specificity, so a project could be anything from a new game to a port of a game to an update for a game to another Fortnite collaboration. Saying several projects could be true on that technicality and thus could've been said how it was purely as PR to try make people more hopeful. Alongside that, from what I remember they didn't ever specifically say "we have several teams *within 343* working on new projects" so some of these could be handled by other Xbox studios working alongside 343i which is what I'd assume given how understaffed 343i has been. If there are several games in development, having them all made by 343i after the layoffs and general staff attrition they've gone through would be a very poor decision given they only recently started actually hiring again. I'd expect they'd be at the latter end of pre-production on just one game at best. If I were a betting man I'd put money on some projects being smaller things worked on by parts of 343i while pre-production on the next game is worked on by the rest of the studio, with any other potential projects larger in scope being outsourced the same way HCEA or the MCC initially were to studios like Certain Affinity and Saber Interactive.
You'd have thought they'd learned their lesson trying to juggle two storylines at once with Infinite (the shoddily conceived multiplayer story made with resources that should have been focused on continuing and finishing the campaign). 343 is as 343 does...
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Idk, the singleplayer was really eh for me. Chief was perfect but everything surrounding him..? Hell the fact they killed Atriox off-screen was such a miss for me.
NGL, that'd be too funny. The cutting edge Infinity lost in the battle, but it's the old pre-war Spirit of Fire that saved the universe. Next minute, the UNSC bring the Phoenix class out of retirement and make them a staple in their navy like they did with the Autumn. xD
@@westenev as a writer, it could work and actually be badass if written properly. HOWEVER. 343i has demonstrated they do not have any decent writers on their team 🤦🏻♂️
@@TheKillamanJoe I honestly don't think writing was the issue. I thought, from a story perspective, 4 was decent. I could see where 5 was going, even if I wasn't 100% on board, and the community lead up to the game was amazing. Infinite I could probably attribute to executive meddling, which probably pile dived every aspect of the game into the ground.
@@westenev 5 wasn't going anywhere, they decided to undo the death of a beloved character only for all of the content of their acts being told to us off screen or quickly spoken though in cut-scenes
@@Pearg0ld I think 5 relied too heavily on spectacles, but I think if Halo Infinite was better and didn't skip the storyline, 5 would probably be remembered fondly like Halo 2.
Something I always loved about halo reach was the ruggedness and worn down feel to the armor. Each and every piece of armor had its own personality of sorts and I always loved that you could literally mix and match everything about your spartan and it would still look amazing and bad ass and that leads me to my biggest pet peeve about halo infinite. The armor and coatings are too clean. It looks as if someone just polished your armor and put a fresh coat of paint on it and not to mention the non colored attachments. For pouches I understand because it’s fabric but 90% of the mk vii chest pieces that look good are just grey and the helmet attachments are even worse than all have a bright neon orange accent somewhere in it. It makes characters look scuffed when you combine the grey chest pieces, neon orange helmet attachments and the way too clean armor coatings. Not too mention for some reason, I don’t k ow why but I feel like you can’t mix and match like you could in reach. When you have the shiny glossy coatings, grey chest pieces and orange helmet attachments and then put a giant brick of a shoulder on your right and a small sleek shoulder on your left for example, it just looks scuffed and bad. The shiny mess of the armor in infinite makes the game much less enjoyable knowing you can’t just do any combination and look good. It doesn’t help when you see people using chimera with Emile’s helmet and Jorge’s shoulder pads with a glossy neon red coating, just makes the game feel more like fortnite. I dont know if that’s just me or you guys feel the same.
I’m just happy that CU29 doesn’t mean see you in 2029. Also, just finished Contact Harvest. And I totally see why it’s rated to high. Simply goated. Time for Cole Protocol
Is that confirmed? Are we certain this isn't a hint that the next mainline Halo game with Chief won't be until 2029, even if we have spinoff games like ODST2 or HW3 before then
All due credit to Theo Stylianides, the concept designer behind not just a huge chunk of the Mark VII and Rakshasa armors, but ALSO Omega Team, AND Silver Team's armor. One of the best armor designers 343 has ever worked with 👏
I have been wanting to play as a white Halo Wars Spartan with a green visor for a decade at this point. Super stoked I can finally play as a Halo Wars Spartan in Infinite, it's a freaking wet dream - but we still don't even have a Cadet White coating lol. Had to spend my credits on the Void Ultra coating instead of the Reckoning battlepass.
No doubt in my mind that big parts of the Isidor, Ulrich, Zacharias, Wilhelm and Ypsilon shop bundles were meant for a 50 or 100 tier battle pass, that got scrapped.
Friendly reminder, Halo 4's Champions bundle had 4 full sets of completely interchangeable armor (25 pieces total) including Mark V and ODST, weapon skins and player stances for less than $10
So many people hate on 4 while in fact it still retained the same full fledged customization and progression that invested so many millions into 3/Reach. And also let's remember... gone but not forgotten.... F***ING CUSTOMIZABLE EMBLEMS AND ARMOR COLORS
I doubt it. They usually outsource (Idk if that’s the right word) comics and books to other writers and companies who manage that medium. They do give them a sorta list or restriction on what they’re writing about, but they have creative liberties with it. I think it’s 2 games, but Idk what they could be considering it’s too early to say. It’s possible one is a joint collaboration between 343 and Certain Affinity. Either way I don’t think these games will be launching at the same time. A reputable Xbox leaker had 1 Halo game listed for September this year. Granted there was a whole bunch of games listed by this person
I don't think so. The context was in regards to their development teams, not licensing out to writers which they've been consistently doing since the beginning of Halo. I think if anything it's a new standalone campaign that's likely in early stages and then a standalone mp or something new that's in development with CA.
I never thought id miss the req packs but at least you could get all the armor without spending money, granted it was a long grind that i gave up on but its still better
Armor cores should've been the ability to play as different species or characters (Marines, ODST, Spartans, Brutes, Elites etc) for specific gamemodes Thats what I assumed they were when I heard about Armor Cores at launch
They took the battle pass for what would have been season 6 to sell us its contents in the store for a ridiculous mark up. I really thought the management shakeup fixed the culture at the studio. How wrong I was lol. Shame after 2023 was so good.
I dont think this is 343's primary fault. Like the studop as a whole i mean. I think yhe impossibly greedy changes are a result of 343 and microsoft executives. Keep the devs,replace the executives, and shut out the investors.
Operations as a replacement for events? Yeah, fine, whatever. I'll just not buy the premium cosmetic if I don't think it's worth 500 (which I haven't yet anyway); it's not like 20 tiers takes anywhere near a month anyway. Operations replacing both events AND seasons? That's just objectively worse. It might be *partially* offset if the weekly rewards continue being better, but there's no reason to think that's going to continue beyond a few weeks of good content to hype the next season of the show before sliding back to a bunch of low-grade filler emblems, charms and backdrops.
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu I was also fine with ops being the new events but not even 3 months after that decision they've now took seasons away too. Just complete greed. They were very vocal about support not slowing once the game was fixed but that's exactly what they're doing.
how many operations do we have in the next 4 months? 5?, so 5x 20 free levels = 100 unlocks. What am I missing here?. Its more confusing hearing hiddenXm4nlet, with all of these criticisms that are very subjective and does not make sense to keep hating on a game. Ups and downs in player population is not what the game needs. Bad, unjustified and ignorant subjective comments is not what halo needs to keep players engaged.
@6204ar terrible take honestly. The proof is in the pudding of what is going on over there at 343 and halo infinite. We got 1 map. That's it. No mew modes. Nothing. But a nice fat juicy cash cow of a store.
“I won’t be turning on the camera today cuz I have a medical issue of sorts” I’m just imagining that he developed Sangheili mandibles and has to find a way to get his human mouth back
@@HiddenXperia 343 is always 1 step forward, 3 steps back. Any goodwill they garner, they immediately manage to piss away. It's honestly impressive at this point.
A skit youtuber I'm subbed to made a video the other day about how gaming companies do a 180 as soon as the players start enjoying their game. I didn't think it was foreshadowing lol 😭
I am now confident we will never get a basic white coating before they outright drop support for infinite. So much for "More color options" thanks to the coasting system...
Hate to sound like a boomer but I miss the old days where you just play the game to unlock cool stuff instead of having to buy it. I think everything should be unlockable, but you can have the option to buy it so they still make money and the people who want to grind for something get to do that
Mannnnn, this was severely over hyped... The Halo insta account made this seem like it was going to be a glorious come back, and then they give us this. Feels like a huge slap in the face.
This was my big worry when they decided to abandon seasons or battle passes. I think it would have been better if the free passes were bumped up to 25 or 30 tiers and you fill those extra tiers with one of the store bundles. There’s just too much filler in the current passes and it makes a 20 tier pass feel like a 5 tier pass.
I know this isn’t something needed but since we have all of these different armor customizations, I think it would be cool to add a “Randomize” button for each core that would give you a random custom Spartan. It can honestly be overwhelming at times lol
What's frustrating about this is that this is clearly a 50 tier Battle Pass that they broke out into store items and the Operation is bare bones as hell with almost entirely filler items, and now no way to accumulate credits. And on top of this since you cant use Double XP if all of your battle passes are completed so this slows the grind to Hero rank too. This was a very swift blow that killed all of the momentum they had going after the last two seasons and just makes me continue to not trust 343.
We need to stop calling them microtransactions at this point. Micro would be like, oh 1 or $2 bucks. That's nothing. Now they are costing $20 a set. That's not micro. That's a big chunk of a grocery bill or the price of a game that could get you more enjoyment.
The Spirit of Fire name for the update with the Zeta Halo welcome screen make me think that at some point the Spirit of Fire was going to show up at Zeta Halo... and we only got this store update
*Unfortunately they missed the shoulder piece that Red Team wear on their left shoulder for whatever reason. Hopefully they’ll add it into the next update.*
Most SIIs wore Mark IV not just the Spartans from Halo Wars. I agree with the shoulder thing that's so dumb they didn't add that wtf 343 I was disappointed in a lot of things in this update the store is insane! I wish there was more free stuff or ernable things...
Good ol 343. Have a chance to release something at least good for us as this is basically it for infinite, and what do they do? They do what 343 does best, fuck it up, put most of it in that shitty ass store, and have us having to pay not play to earn to get it. Im so done with 343 and Microsoft. For the love of god, make halo independent and no longer an exclusive and have some studio that will actually handle it properly.
@@sketchywav7741 Same. I thought infinite had a good balance at the start. It was a fair battle pass system for a reasonable price at first, in my opinion. But I was thinking this is just 2 steps away from being a predatory. Then it took those steps. the battle pass obviously has the generic gear and the good stuff is paywalled. And of course you can't just buy the 1 helmet or 1 visor color you want; you gotta buy an $18 bundle filled with junk. Infinite is dying and they're gonna squeeze every dollar out that they can. 343 crossed that line where I won't buy their games anymore because I refuse to support this type of predatory practice. There's lots of other people that refuse also. It's not enough to stop companies 90% of the time but ,shit, what else can we do?
I would have bought the Stanchion for like 5-10 dollars. 20 is way too much for a gun skin that you aren’t even guaranteed to use in any game mode besides team snipers Edit: by comparison, the ma5 evolved is literally the perfect price
I've (maybe) said it before, and I'll say it again, credits should be earnable, at least in campaign. Also, the armor coatings should have been like armor textures with customizable colors on the coating, such as a yellow, blue, or green version of scorpion punch.
@Opernineryea as much as I like to see another odst game 343 can't be trusted and Microsoft sticking its hands where it shouldn't makes me ok with having just one odst game luckily hw2 was a banger since 343 had nothing to do with it
Once I finish the current Pass, I'm probably going to dedicate myself fully to Forge and try to make the Covenant/Banished ship map I've thought about making since Reach got added to MCC at the end of 2019 (or at the latest, when the Forge update came) but never got around to due to a lack of time or skill...
Also thought we don't have cross-core-everything right now. Halo infinite has gone from the halo with the worst customisation to the Halo with the best customisation in the franchise. EDIT: And like you say. It's all because of a feature that should have been there already.
I've seen this said loads of times. Yeah, saving your armour would be cool, but that's just not what cores ever would have been. It's like you're mixing 2 different ideas. "I don't think armour cores were a good idea" and, "Saving armour configs would be cool" work better when distinct imo. Or, am I misunderstanding what you mean?
No I love cores, they're allowing us to create way more differentiated Spartans than ever before. The problem was the lack of cross core severely limiting that. But that is now 95% fixed.
Halo 3 was peak armor unlock for me, but I've always dreamed of having a game where Reach's and 3's were combined. However, with the recent Halo titles, that just doesn't seem like it will ever happen.
Something I haven't heard mentioned about the name 'CU29' is that it sounds a lot like 'TU1' (Title Update 1) from stuff like Reach, which makes it feel a lot more like a version number, or something we talk about in the past tense. It could just be because ditching the season model means that new features (but mostly customisation items) still need an update name for when they were added, that isn't just the operation. So instead of "Added in Season 2," "Added in CU29", and 30, 31, so on. Support will probably be wrapping up for Infinite in a year or so, and it'll be easier to refer to different parts in the sunsetting of its live service with update numbers like CU29, instead of Season 6, 7 & 8 when they're not really seasons at all.
I’m gonna say it. I don’t think starting a new game is the right move. I think they should put more resources into infinite until everything that you could want or imagine is in the game. Including campaigns. They should make the largest halo title that we have ever seen and may ever see. Because I know if 343 restarts they are going to change direction again and mess something up.
People are starting to get hype about a new game but this is still 343 we're talking about. Yes, they've done some good recently, but can we really trust them to release the new game properly?
Kiki is still at 343. She has absolutely nothing to do with Halo games and almost never has . Im pretty sure her job is essentially transmedia projects so Halo TV , Books etc @@RedCommunistDragon
@@Connor8609 No she’s not, bud. She left in 2023. If her involvement was only the TV show and not the games what was she doing for the past 15 years? I know the show was announced back in 2013 (in believe), but surely she wasn’t just working on the TV show.
I logged into the game excited to play in months, saw that the rifle skin cost money and all the good cosmetics are in the store, gauged my time vs reward then logged out almost immediately
Good news is that with only 500 credits you can get the only two things worth using in this update: the default Mark IV core and the MA5B. Never touching anything from the store. NEVER
Really missed opportunity not having a cut scene with the spirit of fire riding its way to zeta halo. It would have been a great bridge to future halo projects. It would be great to have Jerome and chief in the same game.
I'd like to see something similar to the "gag" Halo 4 Spartan Ops but more like Halo Wars 2 missions from a FPS perspective. Each mission has a distinct feel and purpose that pushes the narrative and is meant to be played either single player or co-op where you play as your Spartan. Going on missions around the Ring to fight the covenant, on offensive, defensive, salvage, search and rescue missions. Ranging from smaller covert missions with just you and a small team, minor skirmish with some ally marines and limited vehicles all the way to full blown open warfare with tanks, pelicans, scarabs, etc. Something similar to (most) of Halo Reach, where you're just a soldier fighting to keep humanity alive for one more day.
its depressing i dont even play halo infinite that much but wanted to check mk 4 out, checked the battle pass and was like 'thats it?????' checked the store and knew there would be riots in the streets lmao
MUST HAVE: Playable elites. All customization features like REACH. would be completely fine if there was a credit system like reach and IF YOU WANT, you can pay money to buy credits. This way all the people who want to grind the game like normal won't pay anything and there will be no FOMO, and those who want to progress faster and further can buy credits as a MTX for 343 and Microsoft. WE NEED TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN THAT DOES NOT HAVE IMPORTANT SHIT LIKE CORTANA DYING OFF SCREEN. We also need a strong open-world campaign with linear levels as well. Need to bring back OG weapons. The new equipment + halo 3 and reach equipment would make the sandbox just INSANE. Need to have marines in campaign drive vehicles again. Need to bring back all the fan favorite characters from the campaign as well. I really enjoy infinite firefight but can't handle the KOTH aspect of it. My all time favorite firefight has to be Halo 5. It was just insane. I played almost exclusively the mythic firefight. For now these are MUST HAVES on release of the next game. Definitely a lot that I missed so forgive me.
Halo’s just in such a weird spot right now. I don’t know how else to describe it other than that but I think everyone knows what I’m talking about. The future projects is exciting to hear but what does it entail as an overall experience and for future of Halo? Idk man, I love this franchise more than anything but it’s hard not to be concerned. It’s just weird being a Halo fan right now.
23:51 Ayy bro I felt the same way, the content recently has been really great and I honestly find myself getting giddy whenever there’s a new upload in my notification feed 😅. I’m really damn happy for you bro, keep it up 👊
343: Yes....yes..... Halo fans look *click* at the beautiful *click* menu screen *racks shotgun* it'll all be okay soon. (Essentially CU29 in a nutshell)
Them making you pay $5 for the MA5 in a supposedly free operation is so scummy. That and the shop legit turned me off from buying anything in this game
I'll be honest. This whole thing will be for nothing once a new halo game releases. Halo Infinite will be forgotten by the wider casual community 343 made the game for and 343 will never mention it again in trailers or press releases. The only people that will either still be playing the game or will remember the game are fans who watch videos like this or those with greater interest. Thoughts like this just make me realise why I don't play multilayer games anymore.
HiddenXperia; please read this. Also any of my fellow gamers. I speak this because of my care for you all and the community we've built. Not out of arrogant hatred, but desire to help guide us to a greener place. For the worlds we love are dying...this is why: The reason why MK.4 looks so good is because theyve practiced making the model over 2 games. All they had to do was make it HD for Halo infinite. Idk why im not surprised at peoples astonished reaction to the shitty changes being made again. Heres the rule of being a corporate business: You cant make games without money. And you cant make money without games. You either saturate the games with store items to make the game FTP. Or you make a game every year and fill it with earnable things and DLC like CoD. No company is going to care about you or the game. Their end goal is always profit. Whether you like it or not, they could give less of a shit about your feelings being hurt. They have a business to run and people to pay, in a dying economy focused solely on gains. Gaming should have never become popular, it should have stayed a useless passtime nerds did for fun. The moment it stopped doing that, it became the same thing as clothing lines and brand name products. You seriously cant look at the world around you and understand that fact. If it upsets you so badly, stop gaming. Because you're going to be disappointed every single time. The only ones that make beautiful works of art are the small studios and niche catagories nobody pays attention to. As soon as more people attract to it and it becomes popular, there grows a higher demand. Thats what kills its soul. You cannot save the overencumbered. They are destined to collapse and become hollow of all meaning they once had, chasing a way to fill the everystaying void that was birthed in its death. Sports used to be a pass time for hillbillies and beer drinking dads. Now its a global phenomena that even foreigners started tuning into. Theres people in Britain that know about the Detroit lions. When it became popular what happened? Gift shops, clothing lines, and even gambling apps focused on stealing your money rooting for a single player in a game focused on teamwork and skill. Like youre watching real life esports and anything can change. When the only change is trading players like Pokemon cards that tips the table a tiny bit. This is 2024, the age of death. Every empire is destroying itself or already close to being dead. You cannot seriously look at 343 any different when all theyve done is get worse year by year, falling back on promises, and proving theyre the same people that made halo 4 and halo 5. You dont find it ironic they did better at an RTS topside tabletop-like game called Halo Wars, but suck at making the original style we all loved? Time changes things for the worse. You dont grow older and become more beautiful; you grow older and decay. That is the reality of all things. So, please HiddenExperia, save yourself from disappointment and try to find a new light to follow. I know you love Halo, we all do, but begging on your knees and voicing an opinion was killed with the modern woke bullshit. Nobody wants to listen anymore, they all have their own agenda. I fear for everyone's health as we grow more stressed and depressed over something that will never change for the better. Fromsoft made beautiful games I could play over and over and over. Stories that run so deep I needed to play it again to get it. These days, after Elden Ring became the best RPG of the year, and everyone started playing acting like lifelong fans, they are even showing signs of this decay. Because the demand grew much larger, the dream got too big. A star cannot grow bigger without eventually collapsing on itself and consuming everything around it as a black hole. This is the reality of life, of stories, of ourselves. Nothing beautiful lasts forever. And holding onto that only brings heartbreak. When family dies, you have to move on with them in your heart, for they no longer will be alive. And holding onto them as if they are still there is denial that leads to a daily reality that they are gone, and it hurts every time. You must let go of the dead and dying, because it will never let go of you.
It would be nice if all core would have their own sound and visual effect for the shield recharge and damage taken, to represent each era of were the armor come from
"Mark V on Mark IV is an alliterate time line" or Master Chief get picked up by the Spirit of Fire and his current armor save for the helmet is in a damaged enough state he's issued a Mark IV armor from a Spartan that's still missing in action.
You know, I could've sworn that a year or so ago they decided to go with "Drop Pods" for updates in between seasons. What happened to that? "Drop Pod 29" is just as easy and so much better
In addition to being a weird name for an update, Cu-29 is also the atomic symbol and number for copper. Probably a coincidence but just thought I'd point that out.
Copper on the periodic table is CU29 (Cu is from the Latin Name and 29 is number of protons it has). It's a chemistry reference. Why named it that is still anyone's guess.
The weapon models should have been “variants” like with halo 5 so the weapon sandbox is bigger and more diverse because the best part of halo 5 was the weapon sandbox
100% agree. We need a huge sandbox update or overhaul or something. The game is fun but with nothing new to spice up the gameplay, I do find it getting kinda stale since we’ve been playing with it for over 2 years now
@@emperorfridgethedude wth? oh you're probably just making a joke about 343 being incompetent, but in case you aren't, there are already two variants of the bandit in game.
I badly miss Bot Bootcamp... i really do, so many games i get into are just try harding players, or my team are just horrible. i want to go against bots again so i can just chill
I just want campaign. And whatever camlsign item they make next better fucking have co-op at launch. The delay to get campaign co-op in infinite is what killed the game for me
We need some sign of campaign dlc or a campaign game for halo cause it’s in desperate need of gameplay story. The mark IV stuff looks cool but the mark up, wonky store, and cosmetic only weapons drags the hype down. If this is how things will be battle pass wise with the filler junk and cool stuff paywalled then halo multiplayer will slide down the slope. We should at least have 2 or 3 armour sets to get via battle pass instead of the filler junk
Screw MP. Tired of it. It's been the main focus of Halo since 2015. Make a fully developed 30+ hour Hako campaign. Legit. Tired of them shoving MP and esports down our throats
CU29 is probably "See You 2029" which will be their next title la7nch, which is funny because the world as we know it wont exist by then and neither will it.
I've been a huge defender of Infinite, because I truly believe the gameplay is some of the best in the series. It didn't launch great, and for a year the updates were painfully slow. But I feel like they had just gotten to a place where things were looking much better, and then they cancelled seasons. I believe the store was "acceptable" (a necessary evil, but easy enough to ignore) given how good of a deal seasonal battlepasses were, and the promise you would get 5+ new sets of armor every season essentially for free in the battlepass by earning credits back, as well as 2-3 maps for free. But now that's gone. You can tell they took many of the armors that were meant to be in the season 6 battlepass and moved them to the store. It sucks because the Mark IV core is absolutely gorgeous and some of the best armor designs I've seen in the entire franchise. I wish the operations passes would have at least one more set of armor in them, that would feel more fair. I can't help but feel let down and betrayed by the decisions they made with this content update. There really isn't a lot of "content" in it either, besides the store. THAT'S the main issue. I wouldn't even care about store cosmetics so much if they actually were adding gameplay content to the game instead of just one map.
Seriously, the only thing I'd like to know from Infinite is who or what are the Endless. And I really hope they don't just forget about it in the next game
I didn't play 4 but hopped back on with Infinite, and then left 2 months post launch due to lack of content and broken BTB. Came back for the coop campaign like almost a year later, then left right after cause the game was still bad.
The free version of the pass, you have ~a month to complete before it expires. It effectively only takes maybe 4-5 evenings of grinding to finish it, so this is no problem. Pay $5, you get the AR model and the pass never expires. Pay $20, you get the AR and everything in the pass without having to play to unlock it. Personally, I don't think it's even worth $5, but that's the best value anywhere in the shop this update.
The best thing to come out of a new Halo game in the modern times would be a COMPLETE RETCON of all the books and games and other media that has come out under 343i and remake Halo 4 with a new story as well as going back to the classic linear level design that is still very open like a lot of the Halo 1 levels and move away from open world sort of stuff.
it really makes me wish they had some kind of custom armour kit saving for each core as there are many options that i want to use but having to remember and switch around pieces can be troublesome/annoying.
MK.IV is FIRE, Illusion is pretty sick, but man... This update has a few hits and a LOT of misses
yh fr
TOO many
🎶This is what it looks like, when Halo live service dies🎶
Say, remember the time we wielded pitchforks and torches back in the day? We know where HQ is at... I say let's rally.
*ahem* shop *ahem*
343 heard all the HW fans saying "LOCAL UNITS" over the Mk-IV and responded with "ALL WALLETS!"
💀
😂😂😂
😂😂
Now this is truly a "WALLET UNDER ATTACK!"
343 really said we going ALL WALLETS with this one
yea ong its crazy to me that if all the items in the shop were available for free this would’ve been a crazy update
It feels like something enforced by Microsoft...
they said RUN THOSE WALLETS
How could you really blame 343i on this? They’re only doing it because idiots are buying it. Trust that they have all the analytics to support this.
We going back to being hated with this one 🗣️🗣️
Anyone remember how Reach allowed you to BUILD your own Spartan that was used for both the Campaign and Multiplayer and everything was earned through gameplay... man has things changed for the worst
It truly has man.
Best part is some people think halo infinite has the best customization in any halo with 95% of armor is almost locked behind a paywall or timegate event
@@swampdocI think it does have the best customization in terms of just how much you can do, but you’re right. The paywall they put holds its potential down so much, and it’s a shame to see such a good armor system tarnished by greed and fomo.
The customization is really good , except the coating system is absolutely god awful
Remember how you also had to buy maps to play on them? And also your entire friend group had to also buy the maps just to play on them together.
@swoops7687 While that is true, the only big difference is that the halo reach was a complete game on launch, so having dlc maps was justifiable when it was each dlc map was only $10.
Halo infinite was not a complete game on launch had many missing features, missing gamemodes, no forge, no spiltscreen, and no proper customization. It took them almost 2 years to even add firefight and infection into the game.
man with the way 343i has been focusing on the shop you'd think they don't know that *there's a fucking cost of living crisis going on right now*
Man, y'all can criticize their bad moves with the shop and still realize that this is a video game and if people are choosing to buy skins instead of food and pay their electric bills, that's a separate issue.
@@Quintori 343 aint gonna let you hit bro
@@John-dz6bm not unless he pays a little more lol
@@fadedgeff the campaign was $60, they let those people go because they have bad business practices and they made $8M and 2M in revenue. The company chose to lay those people off and hide things behind a pay wall. The game didn't even come out finished. It took YEARS for it to come out bit by bit. no more pity for 343, they are a company that tripped game after game, they are not some children who have no idea what they're doing and how their decisions to fire people effect their lives and their final products.
@@fadedgeffdamn, didn't realise that over 5400 employees from other companies were helping 343i on this game.
Maybe if you deepthroat them a little harder they'll give you a smiley face sticker.
Absolutely agree with you on being sick of multiplayer. I just want campaign content too.
They always leave shit half finished. We never got a conclusion to Halo Wars 2, Awakening the Nightmare, and now Halo Infinite.
Regularly released campaign dlc would have me coming back.
ya cause theyre so clueless and cant stick to sa story cause theyre so scared it wont please the fans so instead we get a bunch of hallowed out stories that could have probably been good
What do you expect the studios name is 343
As in the monitor that failed over and over and is constantly seeking redemption
For his ring, to the master Chief then betrays him, then tried to redeem himself to humanity on a starship somewhere.
They’re a studio that will always be stuck having to seek redemption.
to be fair they did give us the means to make our own SP content which is pretty cool
I honestly don’t understand the demand for more story stuff. The campaign was so hollow and emotionally key-jangling, it made me sick. Its like 343 was trying to turn Halo into a Sony Exclusive movie game. Not to mention anything interesting happened off screen, Cortana sudden change in morality (even though shes still a monster), having Chief break his promise to her from 3, The Endless, Fernando, etc. 343 can’t write a good script to save their lives. The writing quality is on par with that Halo TV show, but at least 343 has Chief helmet stay on (though I bet you theyve wanted to take it off).
@@r.e.z9428 I like it and I want more.
Another issue with the store (which you didn't seem to mention) is that they've gone back to the system of having NO way to earn Credits in game so - once players spend the last of their credits from the last full Battle Pass - it's straight back to their wallets for store content. Whether it's Microsoft's or 343's idea, WTF?!
Yeah true, I forgot about that :(
I'm upset about that
Yeah but, it was only ever 1000 credits. So you could only ever earn back what you spent on the BP. So if you ever spent them anything in the store, you would have to buy more. Sooo...
Of course MS
343 has been trying to catch up with the fans and community lately, and you can see they've been trying their best, especially listening to ideas. When it comes to corporate greed? I'm blaming Microdick- I mean Microsoft on this one
"We're pausing updates to achieve seasonality"
*A few seasons later*
"Actually nevermind guys new game time"
Now it's "were pausing seasonality to archive updates"
Destiny 2 is also moving to the same model of short, more frequent rollouts of Chapters or Acts. Which makes sense why Infinite is price gouging the last people still playing. They're going to roll out a model like Destiny 2 where campaign and multiplayer is rolled out in short seasons. So people will have to pay less money, but it'll be more often. 88% of the gear being in the shop is going to be the standard going forward. My friends have already all bailed and this is definitely my exit. 07
*I just want more campaign.*
me too :(
THANK YOU!
We all do, but I guess there's more people who want multiplayer modes to slowly be added over two years??? Yeahhhh, sure 343. They have no idea how much money they're losing by not making campaign-centered content, I swear.
I feel this one hard man.
Yeah, ODST2, HW3, something new like an Arbiter or Headhunter game, or even Flood horror?
They’re sitting on an untapped gold mine
"Gimmicky live-service game that has its aesthetics watered down by microtransactions", is actually a perfectly apt description of Halo Infinite's multiplayer itself. 👍
This wasn’t a game update but a shop update with a new map.
They traded long seasons for mass microtransactions. Two steps forward, falls back down the whole flight of steps.
These transactions aren't even micro anymore. Three skins for the price of a small game.
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu Macrotransaction
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu You could buy Fallout New Vegas or Bioshock at 20$ but that amount of cash won't be good enough for more than a few cosmetic pieces in this game.
Either way we already got confirmation that they're already "done" with this game and are working on the next one. I don't see the point in even playing this thing anymore. 10 years my tail section.
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhuFor real we need to stop using the term micro transactions. I remember back when entire map packs and DLC would cost $10 - $15. And skins would and cosmetics would cost $1-$3.
And even back then we thought it was all an absurd scam.
But now folks will shill out $20 for a single skin. What a joke.
@@pyerack They thought it would work out like Destiny nickel and diming people for 9 years straight
They really just split the battle pass to sell it in the shop, decided to withhold all gameplay elements, and thought they could market that shit as a content update.
They put this much effort into microtransactions and not the campaign story mode 😂
@@Ex4lted_ FOR REAL. So bummed to hear they won’t be concluding Infinite’s campaign, and now they’re doing this… ugh.
As soon as I logged on and saw that the BP was "free" I knew what was happening. Shame on me for thinking they wouldn't clearly make a money grab out of something that is obviously nostalgic to fans.
@@StepCrow they never mentioned Campaign DLC not once, expecting it at all when the previous games didnt have that is just dumb
@@nickm5419 of course. How silly of me to expect a complete, narratively fleshed out single player experience from Halo. After all, Halo has always been about multiplayer, battle passes, and in game shops
how did so many FPS game makers forget how that simple little "level up" drove player engagement?
I still get a little joy from the original MW2 level up guitar riff.
Halo has always had similar systems to level up and unlock armor. As it is they tried to chase the BP trend to drive engagement and increase profits. It may have worked in the short term but the damage that infinite has done to the player experiance (and player expectations) for the next title is absolutely depressing.
If the store had a "sale" page that rotated items in and out for 15-50% off (daily or weekly) and then the entire content library of individual items was available at all times at "normal" price. that would be an improvement. And if they gave you some ammount of currency every level up so that you could unlock that "perfect" armor combination for you. if those 2 things existed i would still be playing halo infinite.
But as it is I am not expecting to ever come back. I have no want to "play" a game that only sees me as a cash flow number.
Imagine if you got the forklift on the map in a game and splatter someone with it and you get the medal "forklift certified"
That would be class haha
I love how the mere mention of Halo season 2 the Flood theme starts playing 😂
Are multiple "projects" really the right move? One of the biggest limiting factors and downfalls of infinite was poor resource allocation (temporary contractors, technical debt etc). Surely picking one big project with a dedicated, full-time team and consistent vision would be the right move?
Looks like we’re gonna have a smaller project come out before the next mainline Halo entry, but who really knows
"Projects" is a term that comes with zero specificity, so a project could be anything from a new game to a port of a game to an update for a game to another Fortnite collaboration. Saying several projects could be true on that technicality and thus could've been said how it was purely as PR to try make people more hopeful. Alongside that, from what I remember they didn't ever specifically say "we have several teams *within 343* working on new projects" so some of these could be handled by other Xbox studios working alongside 343i which is what I'd assume given how understaffed 343i has been. If there are several games in development, having them all made by 343i after the layoffs and general staff attrition they've gone through would be a very poor decision given they only recently started actually hiring again. I'd expect they'd be at the latter end of pre-production on just one game at best. If I were a betting man I'd put money on some projects being smaller things worked on by parts of 343i while pre-production on the next game is worked on by the rest of the studio, with any other potential projects larger in scope being outsourced the same way HCEA or the MCC initially were to studios like Certain Affinity and Saber Interactive.
The only projects i think they should be working on, is campaign dlc, and FREE mulitplayer content
You'd have thought they'd learned their lesson trying to juggle two storylines at once with Infinite (the shoddily conceived multiplayer story made with resources that should have been focused on continuing and finishing the campaign).
343 is as 343 does...
one of them is probably a board game or something cheaper than a AAA title so I wouldn't worry too much about that
This update perfectly describes Halo Infinite as a whole; A few hits and a tremendous amount of misses
Really it’s mostly the multiplayer.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Idk, the singleplayer was really eh for me. Chief was perfect but everything surrounding him..? Hell the fact they killed Atriox off-screen was such a miss for me.
@@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idothe didn’t die
So basically they are imitating my in game gun skill
@@romanmckenzie5674 They literally say he did in the first few missions of the game. Then his second hand lacky takes his place... Wym.
Its sad that we get an update called Spirit of Fire, and it isnt campaign DLC where the Spirit if Fire turns up at Zeta halo
NGL, that'd be too funny. The cutting edge Infinity lost in the battle, but it's the old pre-war Spirit of Fire that saved the universe. Next minute, the UNSC bring the Phoenix class out of retirement and make them a staple in their navy like they did with the Autumn. xD
@@westenev as a writer, it could work and actually be badass if written properly. HOWEVER. 343i has demonstrated they do not have any decent writers on their team 🤦🏻♂️
@@TheKillamanJoe I honestly don't think writing was the issue. I thought, from a story perspective, 4 was decent. I could see where 5 was going, even if I wasn't 100% on board, and the community lead up to the game was amazing. Infinite I could probably attribute to executive meddling, which probably pile dived every aspect of the game into the ground.
@@westenev 5 wasn't going anywhere, they decided to undo the death of a beloved character only for all of the content of their acts being told to us off screen or quickly spoken though in cut-scenes
@@Pearg0ld I think 5 relied too heavily on spectacles, but I think if Halo Infinite was better and didn't skip the storyline, 5 would probably be remembered fondly like Halo 2.
Season 6 content is IN THE SHOP
Something I always loved about halo reach was the ruggedness and worn down feel to the armor. Each and every piece of armor had its own personality of sorts and I always loved that you could literally mix and match everything about your spartan and it would still look amazing and bad ass and that leads me to my biggest pet peeve about halo infinite. The armor and coatings are too clean. It looks as if someone just polished your armor and put a fresh coat of paint on it and not to mention the non colored attachments. For pouches I understand because it’s fabric but 90% of the mk vii chest pieces that look good are just grey and the helmet attachments are even worse than all have a bright neon orange accent somewhere in it. It makes characters look scuffed when you combine the grey chest pieces, neon orange helmet attachments and the way too clean armor coatings. Not too mention for some reason, I don’t k ow why but I feel like you can’t mix and match like you could in reach. When you have the shiny glossy coatings, grey chest pieces and orange helmet attachments and then put a giant brick of a shoulder on your right and a small sleek shoulder on your left for example, it just looks scuffed and bad. The shiny mess of the armor in infinite makes the game much less enjoyable knowing you can’t just do any combination and look good. It doesn’t help when you see people using chimera with Emile’s helmet and Jorge’s shoulder pads with a glossy neon red coating, just makes the game feel more like fortnite. I dont know if that’s just me or you guys feel the same.
Can’t believe that they cut seasons, and then dropped a season’s worth of armor in the shop for thrice the price.
I’m just happy that CU29 doesn’t mean see you in 2029. Also, just finished Contact Harvest. And I totally see why it’s rated to high. Simply goated. Time for Cole Protocol
The halo books are goated
not gonna lie lol I was laughing so hard when I saw people saying that's what it meant hahahaha
@@HiddenXperia lmao, tbh I would not be surprised after how rough things have been going for halo since the CE remaster
Is that confirmed? Are we certain this isn't a hint that the next mainline Halo game with Chief won't be until 2029, even if we have spinoff games like ODST2 or HW3 before then
@@HiddenXperia It's sad that people have reason to believe that's what it meant
All due credit to Theo Stylianides, the concept designer behind not just a huge chunk of the Mark VII and Rakshasa armors, but ALSO Omega Team, AND Silver Team's armor. One of the best armor designers 343 has ever worked with 👏
I have been wanting to play as a white Halo Wars Spartan with a green visor for a decade at this point. Super stoked I can finally play as a Halo Wars Spartan in Infinite, it's a freaking wet dream - but we still don't even have a Cadet White coating lol. Had to spend my credits on the Void Ultra coating instead of the Reckoning battlepass.
No doubt in my mind that big parts of the Isidor, Ulrich, Zacharias, Wilhelm and Ypsilon shop bundles were meant for a 50 or 100 tier battle pass, that got scrapped.
100% what I was thinking as well which is a shame casue it would have been probably the coolest BP yet like the Reach one
Friendly reminder, Halo 4's Champions bundle had 4 full sets of completely interchangeable armor (25 pieces total) including Mark V and ODST, weapon skins and player stances for less than $10
So many people hate on 4 while in fact it still retained the same full fledged customization and progression that invested so many millions into 3/Reach. And also let's remember... gone but not forgotten.... F***ING CUSTOMIZABLE EMBLEMS AND ARMOR COLORS
@@I-Dcompany
Fr, it's unreal to believe that Halo 4 was the most feature complete Halo game that 343 has ever done
@@I-Dcompany people hate it because they tried to be like COD with the load outs and gameplay i feel like
Should have been free and launched with the game.
@@tamarinds Not the best thing when we're talking on an infinite video
I have a feeling “projects” are not limited to games. I think they’re referring to 1 game and multiple books or comics.
I doubt it. They usually outsource (Idk if that’s the right word) comics and books to other writers and companies who manage that medium.
They do give them a sorta list or restriction on what they’re writing about, but they have creative liberties with it.
I think it’s 2 games, but Idk what they could be considering it’s too early to say. It’s possible one is a joint collaboration between 343 and Certain Affinity.
Either way I don’t think these games will be launching at the same time. A reputable Xbox leaker had 1 Halo game listed for September this year. Granted there was a whole bunch of games listed by this person
@@beastmode1915 I hope I’m wrong.
Yeah I can't fathom the studio getting a green light for multiple games after this disaster
I don't think so. The context was in regards to their development teams, not licensing out to writers which they've been consistently doing since the beginning of Halo.
I think if anything it's a new standalone campaign that's likely in early stages and then a standalone mp or something new that's in development with CA.
I never thought id miss the req packs but at least you could get all the armor without spending money, granted it was a long grind that i gave up on but its still better
Armor cores should've been the ability to play as different species or characters (Marines, ODST, Spartans, Brutes, Elites etc) for specific gamemodes
Thats what I assumed they were when I heard about Armor Cores at launch
This is exactly what I was hoping for. 343i consistently shows they now only money. 1 step forward 4 step backward.
They took the battle pass for what would have been season 6 to sell us its contents in the store for a ridiculous mark up.
I really thought the management shakeup fixed the culture at the studio.
How wrong I was lol.
Shame after 2023 was so good.
I dont think this is 343's primary fault. Like the studop as a whole i mean. I think yhe impossibly greedy changes are a result of 343 and microsoft executives. Keep the devs,replace the executives, and shut out the investors.
Operations as a replacement for events? Yeah, fine, whatever. I'll just not buy the premium cosmetic if I don't think it's worth 500 (which I haven't yet anyway); it's not like 20 tiers takes anywhere near a month anyway.
Operations replacing both events AND seasons? That's just objectively worse.
It might be *partially* offset if the weekly rewards continue being better, but there's no reason to think that's going to continue beyond a few weeks of good content to hype the next season of the show before sliding back to a bunch of low-grade filler emblems, charms and backdrops.
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu I was also fine with ops being the new events but not even 3 months after that decision they've now took seasons away too. Just complete greed. They were very vocal about support not slowing once the game was fixed but that's exactly what they're doing.
how many operations do we have in the next 4 months? 5?, so 5x 20 free levels = 100 unlocks. What am I missing here?. Its more confusing hearing hiddenXm4nlet, with all of these criticisms that are very subjective and does not make sense to keep hating on a game. Ups and downs in player population is not what the game needs. Bad, unjustified and ignorant subjective comments is not what halo needs to keep players engaged.
@6204ar terrible take honestly. The proof is in the pudding of what is going on over there at 343 and halo infinite. We got 1 map. That's it. No mew modes. Nothing. But a nice fat juicy cash cow of a store.
“I won’t be turning on the camera today cuz I have a medical issue of sorts”
I’m just imagining that he developed Sangheili mandibles and has to find a way to get his human mouth back
Thank you for this hilarious image.
Better then getting flooded
ok i don't know how you knew that but keep it quiet plz
@@HiddenXperia Ah, sorry. I get a little more ‘intel’ with my intel than I know what to do with!
SAAAY GOOOOD HIIIIIIIIII
They did so well with season 4 and 5 what happened man :(
feels like a pretty big U-turn for sure
@@HiddenXperia 343 is always 1 step forward, 3 steps back. Any goodwill they garner, they immediately manage to piss away. It's honestly impressive at this point.
They got greedy
A skit youtuber I'm subbed to made a video the other day about how gaming companies do a 180 as soon as the players start enjoying their game. I didn't think it was foreshadowing lol 😭
Microsoft is what happened.
I am now confident we will never get a basic white coating before they outright drop support for infinite. So much for "More color options" thanks to the coasting system...
Hate to sound like a boomer but I miss the old days where you just play the game to unlock cool stuff instead of having to buy it. I think everything should be unlockable, but you can have the option to buy it so they still make money and the people who want to grind for something get to do that
Mannnnn, this was severely over hyped... The Halo insta account made this seem like it was going to be a glorious come back, and then they give us this. Feels like a huge slap in the face.
It's ironic how the first update of the smaller team updates is Halo Wars themed.
Halo Wars 2 updates faced a similar fate in the lead up to Infinite.
This was my big worry when they decided to abandon seasons or battle passes. I think it would have been better if the free passes were bumped up to 25 or 30 tiers and you fill those extra tiers with one of the store bundles. There’s just too much filler in the current passes and it makes a 20 tier pass feel like a 5 tier pass.
Maybe CU29 is a tease that the next halo game comes out in 2029, bc it kinda sounds like see you in 2029
I know this isn’t something needed but since we have all of these different armor customizations, I think it would be cool to add a “Randomize” button for each core that would give you a random custom Spartan. It can honestly be overwhelming at times lol
What's frustrating about this is that this is clearly a 50 tier Battle Pass that they broke out into store items and the Operation is bare bones as hell with almost entirely filler items, and now no way to accumulate credits. And on top of this since you cant use Double XP if all of your battle passes are completed so this slows the grind to Hero rank too. This was a very swift blow that killed all of the momentum they had going after the last two seasons and just makes me continue to not trust 343.
The 2 new armor kits look horrendous. I still cannot believe we are on our 3rd Halo game by 343 and still haven’t seen playable elites. Crazy
You think the mark 4 is horrendous? Or are you talking about something else??
@@maxcj7 nah that’s the best core we got. I’m talking about the 2 unreleased kits
This feels like the overwatch 1 update to overwatch 2...
Back to the ol' dripfeed...
We need to stop calling them microtransactions at this point. Micro would be like, oh 1 or $2 bucks. That's nothing.
Now they are costing $20 a set. That's not micro. That's a big chunk of a grocery bill or the price of a game that could get you more enjoyment.
everytime i see original halo 1-3 music/menu screens, my heart aches with cherished memories of my childhood...
so... beautiful
The Spirit of Fire name for the update with the Zeta Halo welcome screen make me think that at some point the Spirit of Fire was going to show up at Zeta Halo... and we only got this store update
Could still happen this could just be like an intro
@@mobius1504 but didn’t 343 said they were going to stop the story progression?
*Unfortunately they missed the shoulder piece that Red Team wear on their left shoulder for whatever reason. Hopefully they’ll add it into the next update.*
Most SIIs wore Mark IV not just the Spartans from Halo Wars. I agree with the shoulder thing that's so dumb they didn't add that wtf 343 I was disappointed in a lot of things in this update the store is insane! I wish there was more free stuff or ernable things...
I dream one day we might get an ODST game with fully customizable ODST armor.
It just came out. It's called Hell Divers 2.
Good ol 343. Have a chance to release something at least good for us as this is basically it for infinite, and what do they do? They do what 343 does best, fuck it up, put most of it in that shitty ass store, and have us having to pay not play to earn to get it. Im so done with 343 and Microsoft.
For the love of god, make halo independent and no longer an exclusive and have some studio that will actually handle it properly.
Real. Every update just dwindles my love for this franchise.
@@sketchywav7741 Same. I thought infinite had a good balance at the start. It was a fair battle pass system for a reasonable price at first, in my opinion. But I was thinking this is just 2 steps away from being a predatory. Then it took those steps. the battle pass obviously has the generic gear and the good stuff is paywalled. And of course you can't just buy the 1 helmet or 1 visor color you want; you gotta buy an $18 bundle filled with junk. Infinite is dying and they're gonna squeeze every dollar out that they can. 343 crossed that line where I won't buy their games anymore because I refuse to support this type of predatory practice. There's lots of other people that refuse also. It's not enough to stop companies 90% of the time but ,shit, what else can we do?
I would have bought the Stanchion for like 5-10 dollars. 20 is way too much for a gun skin that you aren’t even guaranteed to use in any game mode besides team snipers
Edit: by comparison, the ma5 evolved is literally the perfect price
I've (maybe) said it before, and I'll say it again, credits should be earnable, at least in campaign. Also, the armor coatings should have been like armor textures with customizable colors on the coating, such as a yellow, blue, or green version of scorpion punch.
We need halo wars 3 or ODST 2 type of game
@Opernineryea as much as I like to see another odst game 343 can't be trusted and Microsoft sticking its hands where it shouldn't makes me ok with having just one odst game luckily hw2 was a banger since 343 had nothing to do with it
Once I finish the current Pass, I'm probably going to dedicate myself fully to Forge and try to make the Covenant/Banished ship map I've thought about making since Reach got added to MCC at the end of 2019 (or at the latest, when the Forge update came) but never got around to due to a lack of time or skill...
Also thought we don't have cross-core-everything right now. Halo infinite has gone from the halo with the worst customisation to the Halo with the best customisation in the franchise.
EDIT: And like you say. It's all because of a feature that should have been there already.
This is what happens when they go free to play. As long as games are free to play the price you do pay is through cosmetics.
Good on you for whipping this video up so fast! All the takes are spot on and we can only hope that things will eventually get better.
I believe cores would have worked better as armor slots. Where you can save either a whole set or a unique look of your own creation
I think they were looking at fortnite and knew they couldn't copy it so just added cores to get the same items and triple etc the money
I've seen this said loads of times. Yeah, saving your armour would be cool, but that's just not what cores ever would have been.
It's like you're mixing 2 different ideas. "I don't think armour cores were a good idea" and, "Saving armour configs would be cool" work better when distinct imo.
Or, am I misunderstanding what you mean?
No I love cores, they're allowing us to create way more differentiated Spartans than ever before.
The problem was the lack of cross core severely limiting that. But that is now 95% fixed.
Halo 3 was peak armor unlock for me, but I've always dreamed of having a game where Reach's and 3's were combined. However, with the recent Halo titles, that just doesn't seem like it will ever happen.
Still need that rogue helmet in infinite
Something I haven't heard mentioned about the name 'CU29' is that it sounds a lot like 'TU1' (Title Update 1) from stuff like Reach, which makes it feel a lot more like a version number, or something we talk about in the past tense. It could just be because ditching the season model means that new features (but mostly customisation items) still need an update name for when they were added, that isn't just the operation. So instead of "Added in Season 2," "Added in CU29", and 30, 31, so on. Support will probably be wrapping up for Infinite in a year or so, and it'll be easier to refer to different parts in the sunsetting of its live service with update numbers like CU29, instead of Season 6, 7 & 8 when they're not really seasons at all.
I’m gonna say it. I don’t think starting a new game is the right move. I think they should put more resources into infinite until everything that you could want or imagine is in the game. Including campaigns. They should make the largest halo title that we have ever seen and may ever see. Because I know if 343 restarts they are going to change direction again and mess something up.
Remember when we got actual weapons in halo 5 like the H2 BR and Beam rifle, the CE Pistol, tac mag, brute plasma rifle
People are starting to get hype about a new game but this is still 343 we're talking about. Yes, they've done some good recently, but can we really trust them to release the new game properly?
A company on its own isn’t harmful, it’s the people who run it. Thankfully Bonnie Ross, Kiki Wolfkill, and Frank O Connor are no longer running 343.
We just have to hope the next Halo game isn't F2P and is content complete at launch.
Kiki is still at 343. She has absolutely nothing to do with Halo games and almost never has . Im pretty sure her job is essentially transmedia projects so Halo TV , Books etc @@RedCommunistDragon
@@Connor8609 No she’s not, bud. She left in 2023. If her involvement was only the TV show and not the games what was she doing for the past 15 years? I know the show was announced back in 2013 (in believe), but surely she wasn’t just working on the TV show.
@@RedCommunistDragonShe was definitely involved in H4, pretty sure H5 as well
I logged into the game excited to play in months, saw that the rifle skin cost money and all the good cosmetics are in the store, gauged my time vs reward then logged out almost immediately
Good news is that with only 500 credits you can get the only two things worth using in this update: the default Mark IV core and the MA5B. Never touching anything from the store. NEVER
Same.
@@jomama7933Pretty sure you get the Mark IV free, so its 500 credits just for the ar skin.
@@theroninryuu that's what I meant, but I can see how the way I said it can be confusing
Really missed opportunity not having a cut scene with the spirit of fire riding its way to zeta halo.
It would have been a great bridge to future halo projects.
It would be great to have Jerome and chief in the same game.
You're completely right with the blue tint importance. It's that halo vibe
I'd like to see something similar to the "gag" Halo 4 Spartan Ops but more like Halo Wars 2 missions from a FPS perspective. Each mission has a distinct feel and purpose that pushes the narrative and is meant to be played either single player or co-op where you play as your Spartan.
Going on missions around the Ring to fight the covenant, on offensive, defensive, salvage, search and rescue missions. Ranging from smaller covert missions with just you and a small team, minor skirmish with some ally marines and limited vehicles all the way to full blown open warfare with tanks, pelicans, scarabs, etc.
Something similar to (most) of Halo Reach, where you're just a soldier fighting to keep humanity alive for one more day.
its depressing i dont even play halo infinite that much but wanted to check mk 4 out, checked the battle pass and was like 'thats it?????' checked the store and knew there would be riots in the streets lmao
MUST HAVE: Playable elites. All customization features like REACH. would be completely fine if there was a credit system like reach and IF YOU WANT, you can pay money to buy credits. This way all the people who want to grind the game like normal won't pay anything and there will be no FOMO, and those who want to progress faster and further can buy credits as a MTX for 343 and Microsoft. WE NEED TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN THAT DOES NOT HAVE IMPORTANT SHIT LIKE CORTANA DYING OFF SCREEN. We also need a strong open-world campaign with linear levels as well. Need to bring back OG weapons. The new equipment + halo 3 and reach equipment would make the sandbox just INSANE. Need to have marines in campaign drive vehicles again. Need to bring back all the fan favorite characters from the campaign as well. I really enjoy infinite firefight but can't handle the KOTH aspect of it. My all time favorite firefight has to be Halo 5. It was just insane. I played almost exclusively the mythic firefight. For now these are MUST HAVES on release of the next game. Definitely a lot that I missed so forgive me.
Halo’s just in such a weird spot right now. I don’t know how else to describe it other than that but I think everyone knows what I’m talking about. The future projects is exciting to hear but what does it entail as an overall experience and for future of Halo? Idk man, I love this franchise more than anything but it’s hard not to be concerned. It’s just weird being a Halo fan right now.
I did a dinky in my diaper 😂 wipe wipe wipe flush ❤ ooo yeea budddyyy
@@ryuk5673 what the fuck does this even mean 💀
I feel the same as you that a big part of the fun in multiplayer was trying to unlock the armor that was difficult and rare to get
23:51 Ayy bro I felt the same way, the content recently has been really great and I honestly find myself getting giddy whenever there’s a new upload in my notification feed 😅. I’m really damn happy for you bro, keep it up 👊
the prices got even steeper lol but gotta agree the menu screens looking fire🔥🔥
Who gives af about the menus? You're what's wrong with the community.
@TheLegendJTLWhat do you mean? The main menu used to blow now it feels less generic and more like Halo
343: Yes....yes..... Halo fans look *click* at the beautiful *click* menu screen *racks shotgun* it'll all be okay soon. (Essentially CU29 in a nutshell)
@@CL4NDEST1NE 🥲
Them making you pay $5 for the MA5 in a supposedly free operation is so scummy. That and the shop legit turned me off from buying anything in this game
I'll be honest. This whole thing will be for nothing once a new halo game releases. Halo Infinite will be forgotten by the wider casual community 343 made the game for and 343 will never mention it again in trailers or press releases.
The only people that will either still be playing the game or will remember the game are fans who watch videos like this or those with greater interest.
Thoughts like this just make me realise why I don't play multilayer games anymore.
HiddenXperia; please read this.
Also any of my fellow gamers. I speak this because of my care for you all and the community we've built. Not out of arrogant hatred, but desire to help guide us to a greener place. For the worlds we love are dying...this is why:
The reason why MK.4 looks so good is because theyve practiced making the model over 2 games. All they had to do was make it HD for Halo infinite. Idk why im not surprised at peoples astonished reaction to the shitty changes being made again.
Heres the rule of being a corporate business:
You cant make games without money.
And you cant make money without games.
You either saturate the games with store items to make the game FTP.
Or you make a game every year and fill it with earnable things and DLC like CoD.
No company is going to care about you or the game. Their end goal is always profit. Whether you like it or not, they could give less of a shit about your feelings being hurt. They have a business to run and people to pay, in a dying economy focused solely on gains. Gaming should have never become popular, it should have stayed a useless passtime nerds did for fun.
The moment it stopped doing that, it became the same thing as clothing lines and brand name products. You seriously cant look at the world around you and understand that fact. If it upsets you so badly, stop gaming. Because you're going to be disappointed every single time.
The only ones that make beautiful works of art are the small studios and niche catagories nobody pays attention to. As soon as more people attract to it and it becomes popular, there grows a higher demand. Thats what kills its soul. You cannot save the overencumbered. They are destined to collapse and become hollow of all meaning they once had, chasing a way to fill the everystaying void that was birthed in its death.
Sports used to be a pass time for hillbillies and beer drinking dads. Now its a global phenomena that even foreigners started tuning into. Theres people in Britain that know about the Detroit lions. When it became popular what happened? Gift shops, clothing lines, and even gambling apps focused on stealing your money rooting for a single player in a game focused on teamwork and skill. Like youre watching real life esports and anything can change. When the only change is trading players like Pokemon cards that tips the table a tiny bit. This is 2024, the age of death. Every empire is destroying itself or already close to being dead. You cannot seriously look at 343 any different when all theyve done is get worse year by year, falling back on promises, and proving theyre the same people that made halo 4 and halo 5. You dont find it ironic they did better at an RTS topside tabletop-like game called Halo Wars, but suck at making the original style we all loved? Time changes things for the worse. You dont grow older and become more beautiful; you grow older and decay. That is the reality of all things.
So, please HiddenExperia, save yourself from disappointment and try to find a new light to follow. I know you love Halo, we all do, but begging on your knees and voicing an opinion was killed with the modern woke bullshit. Nobody wants to listen anymore, they all have their own agenda. I fear for everyone's health as we grow more stressed and depressed over something that will never change for the better.
Fromsoft made beautiful games I could play over and over and over. Stories that run so deep I needed to play it again to get it. These days, after Elden Ring became the best RPG of the year, and everyone started playing acting like lifelong fans, they are even showing signs of this decay. Because the demand grew much larger, the dream got too big. A star cannot grow bigger without eventually collapsing on itself and consuming everything around it as a black hole. This is the reality of life, of stories, of ourselves. Nothing beautiful lasts forever. And holding onto that only brings heartbreak. When family dies, you have to move on with them in your heart, for they no longer will be alive. And holding onto them as if they are still there is denial that leads to a daily reality that they are gone, and it hurts every time. You must let go of the dead and dying, because it will never let go of you.
It would be nice if all core would have their own sound and visual effect for the shield recharge and damage taken, to represent each era of were the armor come from
"Mark V on Mark IV is an alliterate time line" or Master Chief get picked up by the Spirit of Fire and his current armor save for the helmet is in a damaged enough state he's issued a Mark IV armor from a Spartan that's still missing in action.
???? Bro is the Yappening
You know, I could've sworn that a year or so ago they decided to go with "Drop Pods" for updates in between seasons. What happened to that? "Drop Pod 29" is just as easy and so much better
What was that supposed to look like? I've missed a lot of stuff from Infinite but I'm curious
@@stumblingunnar3407 Any update in between seasons was going to be called a Drop Pod. Pretty much exactly what CU is
FlightRising, a browser games, does 'cores' better than Halo Infinite. They have different dragons with gear that fits all but the Ancient Breeds.
In addition to being a weird name for an update, Cu-29 is also the atomic symbol and number for copper. Probably a coincidence but just thought I'd point that out.
Copper on the periodic table is CU29 (Cu is from the Latin Name and 29 is number of protons it has). It's a chemistry reference. Why named it that is still anyone's guess.
Content Update 29?
@@OfficialFedHater There's not a lot of content.
It's Cosmetic Update 29 because its mostly shop items
The weapon models should have been “variants” like with halo 5 so the weapon sandbox is bigger and more diverse because the best part of halo 5 was the weapon sandbox
That'd be too hard to develop.
100% agree. We need a huge sandbox update or overhaul or something.
The game is fun but with nothing new to spice up the gameplay, I do find it getting kinda stale since we’ve been playing with it for over 2 years now
@@emperorfridgethedude wth? oh you're probably just making a joke about 343 being incompetent, but in case you aren't, there are already two variants of the bandit in game.
@@sb17899 same weapon with and without a Scope, it doesnt count as new weapons. its the DMR; not BaNDIT
100% agree
I badly miss Bot Bootcamp... i really do, so many games i get into are just try harding players, or my team are just horrible. i want to go against bots again so i can just chill
I've been playing a lot of Firefight lately and it is pretty low stress. Just a bunch of A.I. and you can level up much quicker in XP.
Get into forge, nothing stopping you from putting bots on literally any map 🙂
I think that’s the skill based match making
Can’t you just load up a custom game with bots?
I just want campaign. And whatever camlsign item they make next better fucking have co-op at launch. The delay to get campaign co-op in infinite is what killed the game for me
Glad I’m not the only one that loves Chiron as much as to notice its small details
I really hope that them leaning into Halo Wars for this update is more of a hint than just a tribute.
We need some sign of campaign dlc or a campaign game for halo cause it’s in desperate need of gameplay story. The mark IV stuff looks cool but the mark up, wonky store, and cosmetic only weapons drags the hype down.
If this is how things will be battle pass wise with the filler junk and cool stuff paywalled then halo multiplayer will slide down the slope. We should at least have 2 or 3 armour sets to get via battle pass instead of the filler junk
I do hope the next game handles multiplayer better, I’m so burned out of firefight and husky raid which is the only modes worth grinding
Screw MP. Tired of it. It's been the main focus of Halo since 2015. Make a fully developed 30+ hour Hako campaign. Legit. Tired of them shoving MP and esports down our throats
We just need to go back to the 360 credit system from reach
CU29 is probably "See You 2029" which will be their next title la7nch, which is funny because the world as we know it wont exist by then and neither will it.
So much for a “Content” Update..
Mdama Empire! 🔥
Halo Players, Halo Players Halo Players, Halo Players lol it keeps going xD
I've been a huge defender of Infinite, because I truly believe the gameplay is some of the best in the series. It didn't launch great, and for a year the updates were painfully slow. But I feel like they had just gotten to a place where things were looking much better, and then they cancelled seasons. I believe the store was "acceptable" (a necessary evil, but easy enough to ignore) given how good of a deal seasonal battlepasses were, and the promise you would get 5+ new sets of armor every season essentially for free in the battlepass by earning credits back, as well as 2-3 maps for free. But now that's gone. You can tell they took many of the armors that were meant to be in the season 6 battlepass and moved them to the store. It sucks because the Mark IV core is absolutely gorgeous and some of the best armor designs I've seen in the entire franchise. I wish the operations passes would have at least one more set of armor in them, that would feel more fair. I can't help but feel let down and betrayed by the decisions they made with this content update. There really isn't a lot of "content" in it either, besides the store. THAT'S the main issue. I wouldn't even care about store cosmetics so much if they actually were adding gameplay content to the game instead of just one map.
I’m loving the gear you get in this pass. Especially that classic AR skin when paired with the classic MK V armor from combat evolved.
Yeah but to get them you gotta pay £30 😭 you can get MCC for that price...
Meh, it was worth it imo. It’s optional you don’t have to pay for it
@@haloking4253 It may be optional. But that doesn't make it right.
@@mr_monologue2680 I never said it was. I agree with you. It sucks that we have to spend money on this stuff. But it is what it is
If you agreed you'd not buy into it and stop.@@haloking4253
Aside from Mark 7 armor I am not a fan of any new armor 343 has ever made. They tend to over design everything.
Seriously, the only thing I'd like to know from Infinite is who or what are the Endless.
And I really hope they don't just forget about it in the next game
I checked out with 4 but it’s interesting to see how the franchise is... limping on every now and then
I didn't play 4 but hopped back on with Infinite, and then left 2 months post launch due to lack of content and broken BTB. Came back for the coop campaign like almost a year later, then left right after cause the game was still bad.
@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live 343 has been in control of the franchise longer than Bungie at this point...
@@planetbob6703 Why must you hurt me this way lol
I'm confused about the bonus. Do you have to complete the entire battle pass to get the assault rifle or something?
Nope, to get the AR weapon model, you have to spend 500 credits on the Operations pass.
The free version of the pass, you have ~a month to complete before it expires. It effectively only takes maybe 4-5 evenings of grinding to finish it, so this is no problem.
Pay $5, you get the AR model and the pass never expires.
Pay $20, you get the AR and everything in the pass without having to play to unlock it.
Personally, I don't think it's even worth $5, but that's the best value anywhere in the shop this update.
@@jmorales6539 Damn, then it's time to buy the one thing I'll ever get off this shit store.
The best thing to come out of a new Halo game in the modern times would be a COMPLETE RETCON of all the books and games and other media that has come out under 343i and remake Halo 4 with a new story as well as going back to the classic linear level design that is still very open like a lot of the Halo 1 levels and move away from open world sort of stuff.
All this update makes me think of is an exec saying " lets milk these idiots of all their money before we completely kill off the game"
it really makes me wish they had some kind of custom armour kit saving for each core as there are many options that i want to use but having to remember and switch around pieces can be troublesome/annoying.