Despite his tone of voice, he made good points throughout the video. Coming up with a good story yourself is already difficult, let alone doing it in collaborative writing. Being able to follow through as a junior, and being able to lead as a senior are vital in the production.
It's not about the lecture content. Comments say people disliked 1) The writing in the game, 2) GDC videos with a title that mention Diversity, 3) A white male talking about diversity, 4) His monotone voice.
@@AtlasAustralia I didn't play the game, but a game being good or bad doesn't make (in my opinion) a talk about how to make games bad. I must also be living under a rock? What's the problem with diversity? And what's the problem with a white man talking about it? Isn't seeing it as a problem also racist and sexist? Do white people not count for diversity? I know that they don't go though all the shit that other groups do, but that doesn't mean they can't sympathize or understand, am I wrong? I'm really confused about all these reasons to dislike a video. Also, monotone voices are extremely common and don't make what is being said any less interesting in my opinion.
A vocal minority on the internet fights against diversity and "perceived hypocrisy" with dislikes because they have no diversity in their personal lives, so they assume all diversity in media is phony.
It’s so sad people dislike something & most likely haven’t even watched it. He just covered diversity in general it imagine the issues certain people have just from looking at a dislike ratio. It’s SAD
Why has the GDC youtube channel become so toxic? Any video even remotely related to diversity is heavily downvoted. (Look for my comment at the bottom of the page and open replies to see examples) Also, Before The Storm's dialogue writing was much more natural than the first game, so the method of having a team of different perspectives to bounce ideas around and critique each other works
I do agree that individual dialogues feel more natural than the 1st game's. I personally dislike the inconsistencies and disconnects to the established story and personalities though, like Chloe's relationships between David and Nathan.
@@nerosmith2578 Wouldn't it be too difficult to talk anything about the game then? Before the Storm doubles down on the LGBT topic. And the writers clearly wanted the story to mainly base around that. Since the talk was about the production of this specific game, it's almost unavoidable to bring it up.
@@nerosmith2578 being LGBT isn't a political choice. While the word diversity has certainly become politically charged and sometimes lends itself to shitty tokenism. Having people of various backgrounds within a workplace can have quantifiable benefits as it can result in different solutions. That is what this talk is about.
@@ogPunkcln Honestly, the worst part of the game for me was just knowing that after all this, Rachel just ends up dying unceremoniously offscreen. You really get to know her in BTS, and become really fond of her, only to remember that she just ends up getting killed off for plot. It’s heartbreaking, and goes to show just how big of a mistake the LiS writers made.
@@purrspctiv I wouldn't call it a mistake. It's all Square Enix's fault because they commissioned a prequel that was never intended to happen to Deck Nine while Dontnod was working on LiS 2. Dontnod wanted Life is Strange to be an anthology series from the beginning. To them, the story of the original characters was over with Episode 5.
It's a gamble either way. For an auteur, you either blow it out of the park or fail miserably, if it's a committee, at least you have the chance of being mediocre, and mediocrity is safe.
@@BloodBathFenix By "diversity judges" do you mean loud Tumblr teenagers, or angry Conservatives telling you what angry Tumblr teenagers will say? There are no "diversity judges" who have ever affected your life negatively. There are a lot of angry people who want you to believe they've been somehow negatively affected by the diversity police - but the simple fact that you are HEARING THEM BITCH ABOUT DIVERSITY POLICE p[roves that they haven't had any problems at all. ...you've never suffered one bit at the hands of "diversity judges", your whole grievance is entitled, made-up victimhood ...
You do realize by diversity he meant women being included in the writing team, and not just white men, right? Half of the team were women and one of them was an American Asian, and one of them was also a fresh graduate. There’s diversity if you have a team of varying ages, experience, color and gender. That’s diversity.
Despite his tone of voice, he made good points throughout the video. Coming up with a good story yourself is already difficult, let alone doing it in collaborative writing. Being able to follow through as a junior, and being able to lead as a senior are vital in the production.
I liked the guy! I can listen to him for hours. My ego has no problem with him.
Can someone explain to me de like to dislike ratio? Is there something I'm missing?
It's not about the lecture content.
Comments say people disliked 1) The writing in the game, 2) GDC videos with a title that mention Diversity, 3) A white male talking about diversity, 4) His monotone voice.
@@AtlasAustralia I didn't play the game, but a game being good or bad doesn't make (in my opinion) a talk about how to make games bad. I must also be living under a rock? What's the problem with diversity? And what's the problem with a white man talking about it? Isn't seeing it as a problem also racist and sexist? Do white people not count for diversity? I know that they don't go though all the shit that other groups do, but that doesn't mean they can't sympathize or understand, am I wrong? I'm really confused about all these reasons to dislike a video. Also, monotone voices are extremely common and don't make what is being said any less interesting in my opinion.
A vocal minority on the internet fights against diversity and "perceived hypocrisy" with dislikes because they have no diversity in their personal lives, so they assume all diversity in media is phony.
@@JessicaCarrico if you make bad game how know make good game?
Joel McHale doing his best Witcher impression
Quality talk.
Really great talk, thank you!
It’s so sad people dislike something & most likely haven’t even watched it. He just covered diversity in general it imagine the issues certain people have just from looking at a dislike ratio. It’s SAD
Great talk! Well presented and humorous
Damn gamers really get rustled by the word diversity.
Why has the GDC youtube channel become so toxic? Any video even remotely related to diversity is heavily downvoted.
(Look for my comment at the bottom of the page and open replies to see examples)
Also, Before The Storm's dialogue writing was much more natural than the first game, so the method of having a team of different perspectives to bounce ideas around and critique each other works
I do agree that individual dialogues feel more natural than the 1st game's. I personally dislike the inconsistencies and disconnects to the established story and personalities though, like Chloe's relationships between David and Nathan.
@@nerosmith2578 Wouldn't it be too difficult to talk anything about the game then? Before the Storm doubles down on the LGBT topic. And the writers clearly wanted the story to mainly base around that. Since the talk was about the production of this specific game, it's almost unavoidable to bring it up.
@@nerosmith2578 being LGBT isn't a political choice.
While the word diversity has certainly become politically charged and sometimes lends itself to shitty tokenism. Having people of various backgrounds within a workplace can have quantifiable benefits as it can result in different solutions.
That is what this talk is about.
@@ogPunkcln Honestly, the worst part of the game for me was just knowing that after all this, Rachel just ends up dying unceremoniously offscreen. You really get to know her in BTS, and become really fond of her, only to remember that she just ends up getting killed off for plot. It’s heartbreaking, and goes to show just how big of a mistake the LiS writers made.
@@purrspctiv I wouldn't call it a mistake. It's all Square Enix's fault because they commissioned a prequel that was never intended to happen to Deck Nine while Dontnod was working on LiS 2. Dontnod wanted Life is Strange to be an anthology series from the beginning. To them, the story of the original characters was over with Episode 5.
For some reason massive games written by teams of writers are worse than pulp fiction written by one man/woman.
It's a gamble either way. For an auteur, you either blow it out of the park or fail miserably, if it's a committee, at least you have the chance of being mediocre, and mediocrity is safe.
Life is Strange is my favourite game of all time but Before the Storm was honestly a terrible cash-grab prequel made by a different developer.
I like them both. I'd even say the first one is better in many ways, certainly atmosphere, due to the brilliant music by Daughter.
Is nobody going to point out it's a white man presenting on diversity?
@@BloodBathFenix By "diversity judges" do you mean loud Tumblr teenagers, or angry Conservatives telling you what angry Tumblr teenagers will say?
There are no "diversity judges" who have ever affected your life negatively. There are a lot of angry people who want you to believe they've been somehow negatively affected by the diversity police - but the simple fact that you are HEARING THEM BITCH ABOUT DIVERSITY POLICE p[roves that they haven't had any problems at all.
...you've never suffered one bit at the hands of "diversity judges", your whole grievance is entitled, made-up victimhood ...
You do realize by diversity he meant women being included in the writing team, and not just white men, right? Half of the team were women and one of them was an American Asian, and one of them was also a fresh graduate. There’s diversity if you have a team of varying ages, experience, color and gender. That’s diversity.
@@Woeismyhoe people read the title and comment. Why listen, learn, think and debate when you can point fingers?
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