Obedient Plant Physostegia virginiana
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Obedient Plant is a native flower of North America that grows 4' tall in full sun in a variety of soils and conditions. This profile aims to provide you with all information you could possibly need to successfully grow and manage obedient plant.
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Everything I needed to know about this plant was in this video! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
You are very welcome Melanie! Best of luck to you and your future Obedient Plant.
@@growitbuildit I ended up watching all the videos in your plant playlist yesterday with lots of tea! Enjoyed the videos and learned so much! I ended up changing my 2022 plant orders to include MORE seeds and made my bare root list more specific so I won't have to wait 2 years for blooms. Thanks so very much!!
Same here. This is a great video.
What a beautiful plant! Your videos always make me want to grow whatever species you feature
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sometime I'll make some videos on invasive plants, which will hopefully provoke the opposite reaction!
I feel the same🥰
I have a white one, and it is so much fun to watch the bees climbing into the flowers. Thank you very much for the video!
You are welcome. The white ones are really pretty.
It’s a beautiful flower. We started a butterfly garden this year and I think this would fit in so nicely. I think I’ll try your technique for keeping it from spreading too much. I know you’re not sure it will work yet, but I bet it will as it’s a great idea. Thanks for all the well planned and well thought out information. You do a great job in describing and showing every aspect of the plant and that is so helpful.
Thank you Vo! That is my goal - to give comprehensive info on these flowers. Just don't sleep on this plant, as it can surprise you with it's spread!
Any update on the pot in ground method? How it went?
I saw these plants growing wild in my backyard and thought it was just a wild bush growing there , so I pulled them out, but I missed a few to my surprise one morning I noticed purple flowers emerging. I was elated. From trash to treasure, I was able to use the flowers for my photo assignment. Thanks for sharing Ellen
Sounds good - that is a happy discovery Ellen.
Excellent video you have a great voice and lots of good information thank you
Thank you! I'm very happy you found the video useful. And thank you for the kind words!
So glad I found your channel….I have subscribed and will binge watch all the videos about perennials 😊
I'm glad you found me too - hope you enjoy!
I've never seen or heard of this plant, but am definitely putting it on my 'find asap' list. All of your videos are great and full of helpful information!
Thank you Nana! I really appreciate it, and am happy that you like the video!
I only recently came across this chanel. I am enjoying the format of these videos, very informative. So thank you for doing them 😊
You are quite welcome Aneta.
I love this plant. I picked up some at a plant swap several years ago. Its a beauty!
I couldn't agree more Yvette - it really is beautiful.
Do you have the best channel hands-down! I’m so gladSomeone took the time to produce and make a channel that is it thank you you make me want to go out and re-while my city
Thank you! I really appreciate that! And BTW - the people of your city would probably like some more flowers.
Beautiful flower 👌 nice creation 👍thank you for bringing our attention🌸🌸🌸
You are very welcome Gayane - good luck!
Obedient plant was a winter-sowing fail for me this year, but watching your video inspires me to give it another try!
Never give up! I've had to try different treatments on certain species several times before I figured them out! And sometimes it is just bad seed. I've had that happen to me plenty of times.
Your videos are wonderful! Please keep making more videos. 🙂 They are such great quality. I have just discovered your website, FB, and channel. I'm hooked. 👍🏻
Thank you Brittany! We will keep making them!
I have this plant, thanks for instructions for how to move my bunch. I like those plants you call cup plants. I need to try those. Love the video. ❤️👀
The cup plant is awesome! But - deadhead the seeds. You will have a ton of volunteer seedlings. And these aren't tiny plants - they are huge.
Very informative video, I had no idea obedience was in the mint family and that explains its invasive tendencies. I've had it in my garden along the back of our fence for years and the bees, butterflies and hummingbirds love it! We also have clay soil so that also explains why I have to clear so much out every spring. Thank you for sharing, I'm a new subscriber and find your videos very helpful!
Thank you Liz! It can definitely be aggressive. I've seen everything from overly aggressive to one that doesn't spread much at all. It all seems to depend on conditions and soil.
I bought the "Pink Miss Manners" last year and it stayed in a nice clump. Time will tell if it spreads. I love the white one and will look for a plant or seeds to grow it. Reminds me of Foxglove and much safer to have in garden. Thank you for the video. I have some seeds I am going to get started right now.
Hi - if it has 'manners' in the title, then I bet it will not spread. You may be able to break off small shoots in Spring if you want to multiply it though. Although I'm not certain of of this, but I believe a small chunk of root+shoot would eventually grow into a larger clump, that would be genetically identical and not spread.
The bumble bees in particular absolutely love my obedient plant, but boy oh boy does it spread fast.
Exactly. The person who gave it it's common name probably never actually grew it in a garden!
I had no idea it can spread by root.Great news!
You will get volunteers with this plant!
I had 1 volunteer itself in my wetland garden that I’ve been clearing out. It’s amazing what has turned up once I started. I hope I haven’t pull up this beautiful flower in my ignorance!😅 I’m hoping it spreads because it’ll be nice to have this late bloomer.
Good luck sukie - if you did accidentally pull it out, they are pretty easy to regrow from seed.
I have some of these winter sowing. Hopefully I’ll get seedlings.
Good luck Betty - you will love this plant.
This is a very beautiful plant. The spreading is a concern to me. I am switching out Common Milkweed with Butterfly Flowers. Common Milkweed is so hard to control. I like your containment idea, best wishes to you on your idea. Thank you for the video.
Thank you Lar. This plant definitely isn't for everyone. If my idea doesn't stop it outright, then I'm hoping that it at least slows it down to a large degree.
Maybe plant this with the common milkweed so they can compete with each other?
Okay, okay...... ya got me. I just ordered some seeds, (White and Pink ones)! Great video!
Lol - I'm glad I am introducing new species to you!
Fye-so-stee-gee-uh is the correct pronunciation, good video!
Thank you Lillian!
Love your videos
Thank you so much!
Great informative video.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
I've taken cuttings also because the heavy rains knocked them down so I cut them ripped the leaves off the bottom and they lived....
That is excellent Helen - thank you for sharing.
Good video buddy. I think I need to add this to my wildflower garden once I get it established.
Thank you! This is one of the coolest looking flowers to have in a garden. You just need to keep tabs on it so it doesn't get too aggressive!
@@growitbuildit I think I will put it out on the edge of my pasture and just let it go. mix in some other plants species like milk weed and Cone Flower. Maybe those Wild Sunflowers you were telling me about in another video.
That would be a good place for it
Thanks for all the informative videos. I have the pink obedient plant, and I haven’t ever had trouble with it spreading. By the way, are you a teacher? I’m a retired teacher, and your videos are set up like perfect lessons-I love it! If you’re not a teacher, you may have missed your calling!
Hi MK - your Obedient Plant could be a cultivar that doesn't spread. But none the less, it isn't a huge problem to take care of them spreading. You just need to deal with it in the Spring, similar to mountain mint.
And my main trade isn't teaching, but funny enough I did teach a University course for the fall semester! Thank you for the compliment. I try to lay out my videos to maximize information/understanding without boring anyone!
So this is the culprit I hear people talking about! I have Miss Manners and had trouble getting it established so I couldn’t understand how their gardens were so overrun...makes sense now! We are letting our fields go wild this year and I’d love to add this plant, but it gets pretty dry. I’m going to sow some seeds this fall and hope for the best. Thanks for the info, I love all your wildflower videos.
Thank you Emily! You really have to be careful even as to what variety you buy. I had a neighbor who had a white Obedient Plant, but it actually spread. I don't know what the label actually stated, just noted that it was white and spread by rhizomes.
As far as it being too dry, I think if it is in a wild field it might do ok. Some of my footage was from a hillside in a wildflower meadow, and I know it gets dry there. But the plant is obviously surviving and doing well. So, a pack of seeds is a cheap investment. Good luck!
Thank you for this informative video! Any update on how the pot containment method worked in terms of controlling spread?
Hi - out of six pots, I had two with a single stalk escaping. So, I would say that is a pretty good success rate. The pots with Obedient Plant have all the new sprouts arrayed around the outside diameter. So it is pretty clear it was 'trying' to escape.
Excellent review of the obedient plant. Mine are white. I don’t mind it but I will look for pink ones and for companion plants😅 Thank you.
Thank you Dorota! The white ones are quite nice. But the pink would look great with them.
I have honeybee hives---would you please list 5 or 10 best flowers that produce nectar and pollen for short tongue bees?
A few natives would be Anise Hyssop, Monarda fistulosa or Monarda punctata, Liatris, Asters, Verbena Hastata, Sunflowers, and shrubby St. John's Wort. These all bloom a long time and can supply a lot of nectar.
But I'm pretty sure a few common (non-native) lawn weeds can also help a lot for nectar - dandelions and clover. Just make sure you let those weeds flourish and you should have a pretty nice supply of nectar throughout the season.
Hello!! Awesome video...thank you ❤️
Any suggestions for pruning?
I've heard you can take 3-4" off the top of the plant late spring to encourage bushing? And more bloom?? Thanks!
Hi Tracey - that is known as the Chelsea Chop. It works well for keeping plants a bit shorter and making them bushy, as you say. It should work for Obedient Plant as well. Normally I use it on plants that are more prone for flopping over myself. growitbuildit.com/the-chelsea-chop/
Beautiful video! Easy to see the time and effort u put into it. I got one question. Is this variant the Physostegia virginiana 'Rosea or vivid'? Its the only ones, that i can seem to find in My area. Ty in advance.
Hi - 'Vivid' is listed as a cultivar, so just a naturally occurring mutation. And from what I can see, rosea appears to also be a Cultivar. If you are at the nursery, there might be someone there who could tell you for sure. Otherwise, if you look at the plant tag, if it doesn't say 'hybrid', or doesn't have an 'x' after the latin name, then it should be a cultivar. And cultivars are just natural mutations that were then bred for certain characteristics.
I would love to plant this in area that got cleared after having work done, it can grow wild before the ostrich fern move in. I already planted common milkweed in area and have red bee balm going there too. Trying to make it a meadow area. I already have seen Increase in pollinators since planting* up the hill in spring where dead pines where taken down. Of course keeping fern at edge of area is work.
That would work well. Maybe buy an ounce of little bluestem seed and scatter that too. It would all look great
Hi Joe. I love your informative videos. This is my second year with this plant in zone 6b. I did not see many shoots this year. Wondering if being close to the walnut tree is effecting it’s growth. It does get plenty of sun. Due to the size of the bed I don’t mind a smaller growth. Is it okay with other rhizomes? It’s companion planted with common and swamp milkweed, iron weed and Joe Pyeweed. I have a medium sized bed.
Hi, I think it all would intermingle ok. Just make sure that the Joe Pye or Ironweed don't shade it out. More competition will reduce the height of everything in my experience. Also, I've not heard of Black Walnut effecting Obedient plant.
Hi Joe. By the way, my name is Caterina and I live with 4 cats. My profile name was made ages ago and I haven’t been able to change it. I really appreciate your response. Thank you.
Hmm. I just planted spotted beebalm. I don't think I'll get around to obedient plant but it is pretty. With my limited space for grow bags (to contain spreading plants) I think I'd like milkweed.
This flower is gorgeous, but it doesn't attract a ton of pollinators in comparison to other species. So, beauty if space is limited, and you're trying to attract wildlife there are better choices. Swamp Milkweed, for example.
Briilient video i just got some .I hope they are ok with roses
Hi Jacquie - They are roughly the same height, and since Rose Bushes are woody shrubs they can probably hold their own. But none the less it is easy to pull unwanted stalks of Obedient Plant.
@@growitbuildit Thank you so very much for helping me .Look forward to more great videos
Great information. Thank you! one Question- how and when do I deadhead and will they bloom again after deadheading?
Hi - I have not deadheaded these before. But in my experience, flowering stalk flowers don't rebloom much (if at all) when deadheaded. I know this for Liatris and Lobelia genus. But, I have never tried on Obedient Plant.
Were I to try it, I would just cut below the blooms right when I thought the blooms were finishing
Joe, any updates on your rhizome containment technique? I've also wondered about using a 6" deep garden edging for a larger patch.
Hi Greg - it worked pretty well. I had two isolated shoots that I think escaped through the landscape fabric. But overall, it has done wonderfully. I'm going to be attempting it with the 'final boss' - common milkweed.
How did the final boss fight go? All the milkweed videos I found on your channel were older than this comment. I think I've commented on another video of yours that I love your content and your delivery -- just all useful info, no fluff. Thank you for that.
What kind of plant with the big opposite leaves does grow behind the Obedient plant right at the beginning of the video? I come from The Netherlands and I want some butterfly plants. I like those Obedient plants. Thanks.
Hi John. That would be the Cup Plant. It can be an aggressive self seeder, but does great attracting pollinators. See here th-cam.com/video/S8_NjdhpOkw/w-d-xo.html
@@growitbuildit Thank you, Will see if I can get that plant here.
Was there a follow up video for it in the pots? I couldn’t find it.
Hi Stephanie - I didn't post a follow up yet, but will this year. Short answer, it didn't work. Some roots still managed to weave through the actual fabric. It did however really slow it down in that I only had a few sprouts in 3 years, as opposed to a virtual carpet.
How did the container in the ground experiment work out?
I'm planning to make an update to it this year, but in short, it worked really well. I may have had an escapee last year, but this year nothing has sprouted. So, it may not have been 100% full-proof, but it did a good enough job to slow it down about 99%. There is one problem though - the pots constrain the root system. As such, they can't draw water from as much area as they normally would. So, I need to provide supplemental water during the growing season.
Is Pink Manners like Miss Manners and does not spread? (The pictures of your Obedient Plant at dusk are gorgeous!)
Hi Susan, I'm sorry but I am not familiar with Pink Manners. I would assume with a name containing the word 'manners' that it wouldn't spread, but I don't know for sure.
Curious in the update after planting it underground in a pot.
Hi Joe - I went and dug one up yesterday to check. I had noticed one sprout last year, and it returned this year. It turns out that the rhizomes did manage to grow through the landscape fabric, and were poking through all three drainage holes. This method did slow the plant down substantially though. It is probably your best option.
I will also say this - you will need to provide supplemental water to the plants that you plant in a pot. They just can't make as extensive a root system. I found I had to water them.
Any updates on how the pots did?
Hi Lien - they did very well. I had one sprout of obedient plant escape from a single pot. So, the 'spreading' is effectively done.
It seems to have killed my Beebalm by cross pollination. I pull it out whenever I find it outside of the area in back where it belongs. How can yours grow together?
Hi Barbara - I'm afraid I can't answer your question. I really have not done anything special, and they have flourished side by side as well as intermingling. The Bee Balm comes up much earlier and blooms well before the Obedient Plant.
I just bought this plant and it is white but it doesn't say Miss Manners on the tag. I don't want itnto spread like the purple ones. Can I plant this in a pot and use it every year as a potted plant? My tag says Crown of Snow obedient plant.
The roots are shallow enough that it might work. I have not attempted that on this species though. But since I have done it on may other fibrous root species, I think it might be ok.
Can u do a.seed.starting on golden rod???
Yes, someday I can do a video. I did germinate some this year though, so I can amend my article on golden rod. I'll respond back later this week when updated.
Please make a video on white turtlehead
Hi Brian, I can do that at some point. As of now I know I don't have enough footage. I'm going to be moving 4-6 turtlehead plants to a better location this week.
Can this plant be transplanted in midsummer when it is already fairly tall but not yet flowering?
You can try. You will have to water it very frequently to keep it alive though. In general, I never move any plant unless it is early Spring or Autumn.
Groundhogs usually eat my Obedient Plants right before they bloom!
That is awful! Liquid fence might help you - I would definitely give it a shot. I use it and it keeps all deer and rabbits away (as long as you keep up with it). Here is a link (affiliate link to amazon) - amzn.to/3kL8p8n
Is there a way to keep it short in height?
You can give it the Chelsea Chop - growitbuildit.com/the-chelsea-chop/
There are probably some varieties that stay shorter too.
Do they take part sum?
Yes, they can grow in about 4 hours of sun I believe.
How do we deadhead these? Also mine is flopping over.
Hi Ayesha - I have never had much luck dead-heading these. But to do so you would cut below the spent flower, just above the first leaves below the flower. In regards to flopping over, you may have rich soil. Fertile, high nitrogen soils can make the plant grow extra tall and make them more prone to flopping. Next year you could try the Chelsea Chop on them in mid-June or beginning of July - see here: growitbuildit.com/the-chelsea-chop/
Mine got heavy last year, too. Probably 5-1/2 feet tall with mounds of blooms. Going to try the Chelsea Chop this year. Thanks for the advice!
Is pink the only color? ❤
Hi Marian - There is a white variety available.
Can you share the result from planting them in the container? Thank you
Hi - it failed. I had some sprout up right next to the pot. I dug them up and looked, and well, the roots were small enough to penetrate the landscape fabric. It look two years, but they did it. It also happened for Monarda didyma. Now, it did slow down the plant quite a bit. So, if you are trying to keep it contained, well, it will be a much smaller job. But I also found that the plants had much higher water demands in the pot - so...you've got to balance that against your conditions.
@@growitbuildit thank you so much for letting me know!
I purchased a white variety years ago but over the years it got shaded out. I moved them to a sunnier spot so I’m anxious to see if it bounces back.
Hi Alice - In my experience Obedient Plant really has a strong will to live. So, if there was a decent amount of foliage left, I bet it will come back. Good luck!
@@growitbuildit thanks!!
What zone ?
Hi Helena - I'm in zone 6, and this can grow from zones 3-9.
@@growitbuildit thank you so much !