Best Cordless Dremel Rotary Tool? Chicago Electric, Dremel 8220, Dremel 8260, Milwaukee M12 2460-20

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  • @electrolove9538
    @electrolove9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Wow virtually no one does reviews like this! As an engineer I highly appreciate it. Real data, real comparison. Awesome . Thanks.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!
      This was one of the first, I did like this.

    • @alk3myst
      @alk3myst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. Too many just compare specs. I can read the specs myself. I want to see how they equate in real world performance. Engineer as well.

    • @Miked1332
      @Miked1332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Have you ever seen Project Farm? He does reviews just like this. I just can't get enough of it. I'm glad I found this channel that also does actual real-world tests on tools.

    • @rob_over_9000
      @rob_over_9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quantitative real world tests are great. Project Farm and Torque Test Channel are both good too.

    • @jakerandall24
      @jakerandall24 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree great breakdown

  • @marcberm
    @marcberm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My corded model 395 type 4 Dremel was one of the first tools I bought with my own money back in 1995. Still going strong close to 30 years later.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice, goes to show how things were built to last back then.

    • @stanpr1
      @stanpr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mine also after 33 years, until today, when it finally died

    • @comet969
      @comet969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The old corded tools were made to last my husband just had to get rid of a tool after 30plus years and it worked great he tried to replace a part but it was not available they need to go back to making quality

    • @waltp3373
      @waltp3373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Dremel corded is also about that old and still working great. It has a flex shaft that gets hot but other than that, it works. Cordless is handy though.

    • @ziptic
      @ziptic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a 370-5 that still works great after 40-ish yrs. Would like a cordless though.

  • @MichaelGrantMusic
    @MichaelGrantMusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the best and most honest tool reviews. Thank you for being a straight shooter. This review helped me a lot

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Yep just my honest opinion, I'm not bias when it comes to tools.
      I just callout as I see it.

  • @eosjoe565
    @eosjoe565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Good review. I chose the Milwaukee because I already have M12 and M18 tools. I also got it on sale for $78 (bare tool) so that really added to the value. I added the Dremel quick cap as it fits the threads on the Milwaukee perfectly and eliminates the need for the wrench.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah if you already have Milwaukee you. Can’t go wrong, that endcap makes it nice!

    • @marcowens3522
      @marcowens3522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can get it brand new on eBay for $75.

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcowens3522 True. The $78 was also free shipping. FYI, when you purchase Milwaukee tools on Ebay there is no warranty. Despite that, I have purchased various Milwaukee tools on Ebay.

    • @marcowens3522
      @marcowens3522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eosjoe565 false if you get them from a milwaukee dealer on eBay you do get a warranty and that $75 is from a milwaukee dealer and free shipping.

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcowens3522 That makes sense. I didn't realize there were any authorized Milwaukee dealers on Ebay. Like I said, I've bought from various sources. I don't worry too much about Milwaukee warranty. For any out-of-box failures I would expect the seller to step up.

  • @reasonablebeing5392
    @reasonablebeing5392 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dremel all the way for me. I bought my corded dremel 50 years ago when I was a teenager and it is still going strong. I am retiring and moving to all cordless tools after we downsize so this was very helpful. I have milwaukee 12V but I will grab the 8260.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dremel has also been good for me, going on 25 years with the corded version.
      FYI the new brushless M12 rotary tool is about to come out.

  • @UNgineering
    @UNgineering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Excellent review! One suggestion, if I may, to have a consistent force applied, you can stabilize the tool itself (or affix it to a base) and lower a rebar of the same weight onto it without applying additional pressure.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great point! I will have to look at trying that next time.

  • @dermotheaney
    @dermotheaney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instantly subscribed from just this video, the professional science method of the reviewing is remarkable. Thank you.

  • @oneonlynono
    @oneonlynono ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mate thank You heaps for your Video ... I didn't have to go for a Lengthy research to choose for the Best Cordless Rotary Tool... you are a Legend

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad I could help, no problem!

  • @SuperMurrayb
    @SuperMurrayb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review with useful information. My Milwaukee 2460-20 burnt out after a few minutea of moderate use while cutting some aluminum down spouts. Total time on the tool was only a couple of hours. Now it just flashes when I turn it on. Looking online I saw it is a common problem. Replaced the 2460-20 with a Dremel 8220 because I need a tool that is reliable. What does not make sense is how the 2460-20 can have so many four and five star reviews.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Intersting I haven't had any issues with the 2460-20 yet, I wonder what the % of units are defective.
      The 8220 seem like a good Dremel for the money.

    • @SuperMurrayb
      @SuperMurrayb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tools-Tested As near as I can tell the 2460 works fine up until it doesn't. The failures are usually instant, not gradual, and I do not know the percentage of these tools that fail within the warranty period. If the fault is a design flaw like inadequate heat-sinking then it could eventually affect 100% of the tools if they are used. Of course the term, 'defect", depends on the point of view. For tool owners anything that causes a premature failure is a "defect". For corporations anything that causes a catastrophic failure after the warranty has expired is a good way to increase sales. Search for "Phoebus Cartel" to see more information about premature product failures. It would be interesting to know how many people have experienced the 2460's four lights flashing three times and then dead failure.

  • @hanseyluzor840
    @hanseyluzor840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for a great comparison. Yes, the 8260 uses Bosch brand green series (home and garden) 2 or 2.5 or 3 ah batteries. Dremel is also under warranty and service from the Bosch brand in Europe.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem! Thanks!
      Interesting Dremel is under warranty from Bosch in Europe.
      Thanks for the info!

  • @angelrivera9424
    @angelrivera9424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    perfect review .. my first rotary tool was a drimel.. I been use them since 20 years ago.. and I still use them till now.. many brands came and go.. but the best stills on..

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep they seem to keep improving, while keeping the same quality.

  • @elkabong6429
    @elkabong6429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the in-depth demo. All I can say is; you know your brand is the one to beat when the brand name becomes synonymous with the type of tool. So, “Dremel” is like “Kleenex!”

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem! yep when the tool is called by the actual brand, thats the one to beat.

  • @dillonkoch72
    @dillonkoch72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had my M12 milwaukee dremal for almost a year now. The 2amp battery barely lasts through a small job. But you slap a 6amp on there and it's a whole different animal. I have the M12 3/8 ratchet to. Soon I'll be getting the long neck 3/8 as well.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that 6ah really wakes the rotary tool up!

  • @rickybobbyracing9106
    @rickybobbyracing9106 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review. I have the M12 one, but haven't really put it through the ringer. Hoped it would do better, but like you said, I was getting into M12 overall so got this. But tool just by itself, Dremel is pretty nice.
    Something for you and your viewers if you didn't know already, some Dremel accessories fit on the M12. I got the Dremel keyless chuck, and put it on the M12. Fits and works great.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! The M12 preforms a lot better with a 6.0ah battery.
      Yep definitely a nice benefit it can use Dremel accessories.

    • @adam2jzzz801
      @adam2jzzz801 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have a part number for the chuck

  • @waltp3373
    @waltp3373 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice comparison. I ordered the 8220 for $89. I haven't got it yet. It comes with an accessory kit, battery and charger. The Milwaukee 2460-20 is $99 just for the tool. Another $52 for 2 batteries, $17 for a charger and no accessories. That makes the Dremel a much better deal.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, yep if you don’t already run the Milwaukee m12 line it can be expensive.
      Overall the 8220 is a good value.

  • @3613jeremy
    @3613jeremy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if you turned them all down to the 25000rpm the 8260 had would they be quieter and would have cut as quick

  • @vtxdaryl
    @vtxdaryl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I have a Bauer from Harbor Freight and I don’t use it much. I charged it and tried to use it and it was dead. I think I will go to Home Depot and pick one out. Thanks, it was a interesting video.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problem! FYI the new Milwaukee brushless 2525-20 should be out soon.

  • @DouglasB65
    @DouglasB65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was looking at the 8220 until I saw that you can use other batteries on the 8260. Both are very good tools but I went with the 8260 because of the brushless feature and the app. Great video and keep up the great work...thx

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep both tested really well, I agree the Bosch battery's working in the 8260 is a big deal, and it being brushless.
      Thanks! Will do

    • @DouglasB65
      @DouglasB65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jadel Labradoodle251 Ah..nope, the 8260 is the first brushless Dremel and I believe the first brushless rotary tool on the market as of now

    • @thedave1602
      @thedave1602 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was looking at the 8260 until this review. It performed significantly lower on the RPM. Is it possible it was limited by the RPM setting in the app?

    • @DouglasB65
      @DouglasB65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedave1602 it may be..but it works great for what I need it for.

    • @richvolkjrful
      @richvolkjrful ปีที่แล้ว

      The 8250 is brushless

  • @Jbenner848
    @Jbenner848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have the milwaukee and it's been great so far and having the m12 platform is what I think sets it a step above especially when you can put one of the bigger 12 volt batteries on it and it lasts forever

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah if you have the milwaukee platform it makes it a easy choice, it might have less power, but like you said endless options for battery's.

    • @ProxyFinal
      @ProxyFinal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested Yea, but Bosch has tools that Milwaukee doesn't have at the moment. You want better runtime...just slap a 6.0 on the dremel.

    • @moshet842
      @moshet842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProxyFinal And Milwaukee has a lot more Bosch doesn't. What's your point?

    • @ProxyFinal
      @ProxyFinal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moshet842
      My point is clear. Does Milwaukee have a planer and palm router for 12v? The answer is No. I own them and I use them all the time and I also own a lot of M12s, but still no planer and palm router.

    • @moshet842
      @moshet842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProxyFinal I didn't know you were referring specifically to the 12v line. Overall, Milwaukee has more tools, but you're right they are kinda deficient in the 12v line. But again, they have the excellent 12v palm nailer no one else has.

  • @juanjoseamador7614
    @juanjoseamador7614 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm new to Dremels, but this thing has been great. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfPgcZ5_Cl0HDUKkMJAKde11YKQZVgMoR The variable speed is awesome and the cordless aspect makes it so easy to work with. I am constantly finding uses for it that make tasks easier. Recently I put in a new deadbolt on one of our doors. I knew I had to enlarge the hold where the deadbolt goes into the door frame. At first I thought I would have to get a big router and figure out how to use it for that, but then I rermembered we have the dremel. I was able to enlarge the hole almost as easy as if I was drawing with a pen. It's also great for grinding our dog's nails done and so many other household tasks.

  • @joshuahershberger4120
    @joshuahershberger4120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got the Milwaukee M12 as a free tool with a charger/battery package from Home Depot. They have and online only deal right now you get a charger and two batteries with a free tool for $129.99.

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was already using the M12, but bought the 8260 on sale because I also have Bosch 12V tools for which I can make use of the 3Ahr battery (my other Bosch batteries are only 2Ahr)

  • @ProxyFinal
    @ProxyFinal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was having a bad day, then saw this on the overhead and remembered that there was this brushless dremel I heard about. The fact that you showed Bosch batteries are finally compatible is a win for the brand and the consumer. The thing is a beast almost as if batteries nowadays are more powerful than corded tools. Even if Milwaukee announces a brushless rotary, I will stick with dremel/bosch and I will opt for the Ryobi 18v brushless rotary tool instead. I think Milwaukee really missed their chance. Good job, Bosch.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!, yep it’s about time with the battery, not a lot of options before.
      I definitely was not impressed with the Milwaukee after the testing even though I thought it was going to place atleast second

  • @johnmckee7937
    @johnmckee7937 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I recently bought a HF Braun on sale for 39.99.
    I've yet to recharge it, after much use. Much more powerful than my old cordless dremel tool.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah its a good value IMO.

  • @martinblenstrup366
    @martinblenstrup366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video. Well tested and nice with diagrams in the video

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I just did a update video with 8240, 8250, Ryobi and Proxxon

  • @kiltmanm60
    @kiltmanm60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! I was on the fence and this really helped me decide what to go with.

  • @triqpham
    @triqpham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review. Didn’t know about the 8260. Looks like a winner to me. Thanks.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Yep it’s only been out for a few months.

  • @CrimeVid
    @CrimeVid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a corded knock off dremel thing, I have used it about 4 times in the ten or twelve years I’ve had it. Cost about £20 including loads of bits. Cost-benefit about right !

  • @geektarded
    @geektarded 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison. Thanks!

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! No problem!

  • @Stix-hb1bk
    @Stix-hb1bk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for giving the country of manufacture. That matters, but I hope one day the USA will be back in that mix. It’s such a crying shame it’s not.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem, yep all we seem to do is import....

  • @marconiandcheese7258
    @marconiandcheese7258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are like Todd from @ProjectFarm but without all that caffine. He talks so fast but i love it. Great channel

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!, yeah this was one of my first test videos. I have speed things up some since then.

  • @StrongmanLovesAnimals
    @StrongmanLovesAnimals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Dremel can charger faster if you use a bosch 12v charger too!

  • @Rcing101
    @Rcing101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad I found this video. Wanted a good comparison of the two Dremels. Was debating if the extra $60 was worth it, and after watching this, I feel comfortable saying it is. Thank you! I run the 12V Milwaukee tools, but the warranty of the Dremel is what is kind of drawing me towards it, that and the brushless motor. Definitely feel like a brushless motor is a great advantage to something like this.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem! Yep I run the 12v Milwaukee and was wondering how it compared to the “Dremel brand” and was actually quite shocked. I thought it would have been at least better then the 8220…

    • @goinbananas1054
      @goinbananas1054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not worth the extra money, but if you get it and you have older 8220 batteries they will work with the 8260 but it requires forcing them in. From the outside they look almost identical but somewhere theres a difference that makes it difficult to force in. But I'd suggest getting the 8220 and a Versa and have $10 left over, I think you can even get the 8220 for $75.

  • @jacobveilleux2341
    @jacobveilleux2341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for making the video, great info. For my use, I'm leaning towards the 8220, but am going to continue to look around some more to see if anything else turns up.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem, FYI the 8240 is coming out this week. Looks like limited Lowes stores have them in stock. It’s $99 like 8220. All I know right now is it uses the Bosch battery like 8260 and soon 8250.

    • @jacobveilleux2341
      @jacobveilleux2341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ended up going with the Dremel 8250. I didn't need it wasn't Bluetooth on my rotary tool.. The first unit I bought was faulty. It wouldn't turn back on after it was turned off unless the battery was taken out and put back in. I returned it to Lowe's and didn't have much confidence in the tool, but the second one has been working like a champ. I absolutely LOVE this tool. Thanks again!

  • @daishi5571
    @daishi5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who has bought several non Dremel (only to regret it) rotary tools over the last two decades this seems to have just about what I have been wanting for the last decade. easily replaceable battery, brushless motor and a significant amount of torque. I have it already on order.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice I really think you will like it.

    • @daishi5571
      @daishi5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tools-Tested Been using the 8260 hard for the last week and it performs better than my 4200 (the worst Dremel I have bought, with it's one off never to be used again chuck that has too much run out and requires special collets) with the added benefit of wireless (although if you use it hard get an extra battery) Think I'm going to buy a Bosch fast charger for it. Overall I would say the best Dremel I have bought. Now I'm off to do some routing.

  • @ltcajh
    @ltcajh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These came about from dental lab handpieces, like I used in the 80s. They were much smaller around, and more powerful, but costly.

  • @rdp4079
    @rdp4079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the video. I've always bought Dremel brand rotary tools, but I also own multiple Milwaukee 18v/12v tools and have 12v batteries from 1.5Ah to 4.0Ah so I thought what the heck. I bought the Milwaukee a while back and I have to say, It's probably the most disappointing Milwaukee tool I own. It's wimpy, loud, and vibrates like crazy. The loudness and vibration come from the poor quality and lack of precision. The exact same bit that runs smooth as glass in a Dremel, vibrates like hell in the Milwaukee. There is no comparison in quality between the two. I came here to find a comparison of the two Dremel's and I think I'm going to spend the extra and get the 8260. (Edit: I may get the 8250 as it's $20 cheaper and I have no plans of using the Bluetooth and couldn't care less about a lit up LED logo).

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem! I will say the M12 seems to have a lot more power with the XC6.0 in my testing which is interesting.
      Yeah defiantly the 8250 over the 8260, I just wish the 8250 and 8260 could use the larger Bosch battery with the base (4ah+), sadly the base hits the tail on the tool.

  • @davidtelllez2876
    @davidtelllez2876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude!! 8220 kept up with the more expensive ones...should've won 🏆 as the best budget dremel....2nd fastest charger, 2nd fastest rebar cutter, top 31rpm etc etc

  • @PREDATOR07
    @PREDATOR07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Milwaukee cutting wheels last up to 4 times longer than Dremel the downside is Milwaukee doesn't have the ez lock.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting I will have to test that, Thanks for the info. Do you think they are the same as Ryobi? seeing TTI also owns them, they did just release a similar easy lock.

    • @PREDATOR07
      @PREDATOR07 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested I've tried only those 2. I had 6 cutting wheels 2 Milwaukee and 4 Dremel for a quick job using first the Milwaukee which cut half of it and I barely finished with the Dremel 🥺 I started to panic when I noticed the Dremel wheels durability.

  • @timh7156
    @timh7156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Milwaukee has since come out with a brushless version. The old version is now on sale at Home Depot for $99 with a 2.0ah battery and charger

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the new brushless is crazy.

  • @2down4up
    @2down4up ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol your previous generation Dremel is so much nicer then my cordless Dremel, not to mention how much nicer still the newest version is. I believe my cordless Dremel may be the very first generation of lithium powered cordless Dremel. Still works and serves me quite well honestly.

  • @Ghryst
    @Ghryst 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the thing is, the ppl buying the Milwaukee, most likely already have a supply of batteries rated up to 6AH, and are only paying the price of a skin-only product.
    so in most ppl experience, the Milwaukee is going to have vast multiples of battery life over the other brands, AND they're going to be paying about 2/3s the price you listed. also, did you factor in the time it took you to change the disk on the Dremel when you applied way too much pressure (likely because the unit draws more power than is required to do the job efficiently) and destroyed an almost full wheel in a matter of seconds?

  • @SaeedEminem2
    @SaeedEminem2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best review ever! I wish you could do this with corded too. Like Dremel 4300 vs 8260. Thanks.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! hopefully at some point I will also do corded.

  • @WontSeeReplies
    @WontSeeReplies 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison, but one crucial test was missing- These tools’ ability to handle load under lower speeds.
    Torque is crucial in most applications, as performance is often improved at lower speeds.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep currently working on an dyno, so hopefully soon we can see the torque vs rpm and also Watts.

  • @MHiFacesTheWorld
    @MHiFacesTheWorld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is greatness! Thank you!

  • @dantwaddell6746
    @dantwaddell6746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The max RPM on the 8260 only goes up to 30k when the battery is sufficiently charged. I just bought one and noticed there was no difference between 25k and 30k. The battery was low so I charged it, and the 30k stepped up to a higher speed. Maybe your battery wasn’t fully charged when you did the RPM test?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting, I thought it was fully charged but I guess that's a possibility.
      Thanks for the info!

  • @plasmar1
    @plasmar1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a Dremel 8220 in 2012 here in Canada... Used it a few times, was disappointed with the battery life, wasn't sure if it was the battery that was a dud or just normal(cost of oem batteries wasn't looking like a viable option to find out and availability was also an issue), was about to just accept the idea it was a bad purchase but took a shot at buying 3rd party Shentech(personally believe it was luck of the draw) branded batteries off amazon and those had about 3 times the battery life, completely changed the usability of the dremel for me..... ** there's these generic 1-1/2in(1/8 shank) grinder wheel attachments that can be purchased that are a great combo with it, used it to cut part of my muffler pipe off, far better than the oem dremel grinder cut off wheels:)

  • @nickwhite8794
    @nickwhite8794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Review as usual.. love your in depth analysis. I’m wondering if you put a CP2.0aAh or the HO2.5 battery on the M12 if the performance would have been better. Those 1.5Ah M12 batteries are pretty trash I only use them in my flashlight and Chalk Gun .. but I plan on getting the M12 version later on

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, yeah I did an update video with 8240, 8250, Ryobi, Proxon. Just for fun I put a 6ah on the Milwaukee and wow did it ever wake up. I believe it actually did better then the 8260....
      Hoping to do the M12 again with the 2.5 and 5.0 soon!

  • @ianmaw66
    @ianmaw66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should check out the German made Proxxon rotary tools.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will have to check them out, never heard of them. Thanks for the info!

  • @JamesWilson-lg7bx
    @JamesWilson-lg7bx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a couple of Milwaukee M 12 and M 18 tools so I will be buying Milwaukee Rotary tool

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its nice to see you can use Bosch battery's in the 8260, but Milwaukee offers more tools then Bosch.

  • @juliosandoval8244
    @juliosandoval8244 ปีที่แล้ว

    I back up milwaukee any time.all my tools are milwaukee for life the best tools.

  • @you2449
    @you2449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harbor Freight has one from Bauer now. $50. I'll give it a shot. I only need to cut lite wood and cardboard.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Already tested it th-cam.com/video/zLmcOzoU-qU/w-d-xo.html good value for the money in my option.

  • @turboeclipse2wd
    @turboeclipse2wd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review video! I've been debating between the Milwaukee and the Ryobi One rotary tools. Have you reviewed any of the Ryobi rotary tools?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, I have not done the 18 volt ryobi yet, only the 4V and 12V. I would defiantly by the Milwaukee over both of them.

    • @turboeclipse2wd
      @turboeclipse2wd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested thanks for the reply! HD has recently been dropping the price on the M12 rotary kit (tool, battery, charger, and case) down to $79 but have missed it both times. Great deal at that price point.

  • @mnovaes
    @mnovaes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Realistically, what can one expect in terms of battery life for the Dremel 8220 vs 8260? From your experience in heavy continuous use and occasional bursts/tasks? Maybe if you were to make a test for this, maybe keep them running non-stop with some "heavier" bit common to all and at least have a relative idea. Thank you!

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They claim 2x the 8220. That being said the 8260 also comes with a 3ah vs the 8220 @ 2ah. Looking at the no load run time you can defiantly see a difference.
      Im hoping to build a dyno so I can actually get run time and load more accurately.
      But I would expect like they claim, almost double due to the battery and brushless motor.

  • @PREDATOR07
    @PREDATOR07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the cutting disc the Milwaukee brand cut faster and last 3 times longer,downside is the screw to attach it to the tool.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, yeah I do like that easy change disk. Looks like ryobi has a version now, I’m curious how they compare.

  • @ponowai1
    @ponowai1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought the dremel 8250 for the brushless motor and bosch battery, the switch failed on the first day. Lifetime warranty is bogus, dremel says if the tool is defective it will fail in the first few months. If the tool fails after years of use it's not defective, it will be considered wear and tear therefore it won't be covered under warranty. Good luck

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's crazy, its really hard for me to trust manufactures warranty's nowadays.

  • @Bumerang37
    @Bumerang37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice day. If there's a manufacturing defect, or something (dremel 8260) with rpm's ? Is there anyone here who has a similar situation with this tool ?

  • @jfrmdabern
    @jfrmdabern 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 8260 had a 12v 3ah battery while the Milwaukee had a 12v 1.5ah battery?? In what world is a tool with DOUBLE the amperage a fair test?!?

  • @seansfc
    @seansfc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review!

  • @SrHarryPaz
    @SrHarryPaz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, it would be helpful if the warranty info was provided, esp since the Chicago Electric dropped & stopped working, I'm curious, would you be able to return for another?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great suggestion, I was able to return it and they exchanged it no questions asked.

  • @Polypeckerhead
    @Polypeckerhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve had multiple Dremels
    All failed with in 6 hours to half hour. Never will I but them again. Try a longevity test you will find out. IMO

  • @HerselLawson
    @HerselLawson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I love Dremel Products, I will probably go Milwaukee since I am already in the M12 family. Have you tried the Milwaukee with the higher amp battery? I wonder if that makes any difference?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the higher ah battery’s make a huge difference, see test video.
      th-cam.com/video/MjmuRbTwCk8/w-d-xo.html
      FYI Milwaukees brushless version is set to hit shelves this month 2525-20.

  • @tack3411
    @tack3411 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The m12 is great

  • @savageinstitute9569
    @savageinstitute9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very valuable, thank you sir!

  • @MasChingonCustoms
    @MasChingonCustoms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So for the dremel 8260 did you connect to it via Bluetooth to max out rpms to full power? Since apparently everything is Bluetooth now

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it was connected, Kinda strange. Hope to retest it later in the year. Once I get a dyno built for rotary tools.

  • @eliascruz9757
    @eliascruz9757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good test to see what to buy . Cool

  • @erichumphrey3681
    @erichumphrey3681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 8260 comes standard in the app set at 2500 , you must go in the app and select the higher speed.

  • @marcosserrano6597
    @marcosserrano6597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think that the 8260 is the best option but when I made the search the model isn’t available in Mexico 🤦🏻‍♂️ the damn tool is made in Mexico but isn’t available! Only the 8220 and the Milwaukee, what’s the best option of this two?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s crazy, made there and isn’t available….
      Right now if you don’t plan on owning other Milwaukee m12 tools go with the 8220.
      BUT I did just learn yesterday they are releasing a 8240 and a 8250 so if you can wait it might be worth it. Both use the new Bosch battery.

  • @lperson8970
    @lperson8970 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi. could i use the 8220 dremel to cut a hole for a vanity bahroom sink in a laminate countertop???

  • @john_hind
    @john_hind ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Useful test, but I was hoping you'd be doing some torque testing. Two things disappointed me about my current 8220. First the plastic accessory mounting screw thread quickly got stripped making some of the accessories useless and second the torque is really poor at slow speeds meaning I often have to run at higher than ideal speed just to prevent stalling. The torque issue should theoretically be improved with a brushless motor. This would explain why the 8260 cuts the rebar faster despite slower maximum speed, but also throws shade on your maximum speed measurement. If the brushed motor machines immediately slow down when loaded, the no-load maximum speed is pretty irrelevant! Even some subjective tests of torque at low speeds would be useful. Also at the 8260 price point I would hope for a die-cast metal nose end to strengthen the mounting screw and stiffen the bearing mount to take side-loads better. From your pictures, it looks like it is still plastic, but maybe better quality plastic than the 8220?

    • @WontSeeReplies
      @WontSeeReplies 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spot on. I don’t own Milwaukee anything(DeWalt/FLEX/Makita), still I’m considering the Milwaukee simply for the useful torque. I’ve seen them handle load very well.

    • @john_hind
      @john_hind 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WontSeeReplies Yes, since this I have replaced my 8220 with an 8260. I would have considered other brands as the 8260 is rather over-priced, but I had a lot of Dremel accessories which would have had to be replaced. The 8260 does have a plastic nose, but it seems to be better quality plastic, or maybe I just know to be more careful! It does however meet my expectation of much better low speed torque (and the speed is maintained much better as it is loaded). Strangely Dremel does not really emphasise this benefit, implying it is just a maintenance thing (no brushes to wear out). I only knew to expect this because I am an EE who knows the theory!

  • @Peter_Cetera
    @Peter_Cetera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dremel is the worlds best multi tool

  • @arzelaascoli9189
    @arzelaascoli9189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    May be worth pointing out the 8260 has a "limited lifetime" warranty (the 8220 has a 2 year warranty).

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that's a good point! Thanks!

  • @vids595
    @vids595 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Milwaukee has the option of a 6 amp hour battery.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I tested it in a updated video, and it lead to huge gains in performance.

  • @jimmypickett9912
    @jimmypickett9912 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with dremel is the bit changing hold button

  • @kdrummond449
    @kdrummond449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello! I don’t see where you’ve made a video of the best rotary sander. Am I missing it? If not, I’d sure like to see your opinion on this!

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello I haven't yet, I know Project Farm did a video on them I believe about a month ago.

  • @josemilian4167
    @josemilian4167 ปีที่แล้ว

    man REALLY curious what the deal was with RPM that HUGE ding.

  • @hhhell4910
    @hhhell4910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect!

  • @JVBL1
    @JVBL1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. Milwaukee needs to upgrade their rotary tool they have been using the same one for about 10 years.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! 110% maybe we see a new version at the pipeline event today? we can only hope. They have filed a patent for a new version so its defiantly coming.

    • @JVBL1
      @JVBL1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested their cordless fan too with at least 700 CFM, outlet plug (hybrid), 2x4 mounting brackets, swivel left and right too, etc...

    • @JVBL1
      @JVBL1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Tools-Testedjust looked at their new brushless rotary tool and it only has 27500 RPM but it has a flashlight and integrated collet driver to screw and unscrew.

  • @joseph-ur2ks
    @joseph-ur2ks ปีที่แล้ว

    the rpm on the dremmel increases when the load is increased to save battery life

  • @topeye4202
    @topeye4202 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much better to buy a flex shaft rotary tool from Foredom or the much cheaper but still good quality Winsa.

  • @mattman8685
    @mattman8685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going with the 8220 when I get the money. hands down the best on the Market so far. also the only rotor tool of the type that has a brushless motor! this is key

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might want to wait, Lowes is currently getting the new 8240 in stock this week. Don't know much about it yet, other then it is priced the same as the 8220 but uses the new Bosch battery's like the 8260.
      The 8220 has a brushed motor, that's not as serviceable as the older Dremel's with brushes.
      8260 is the only brushless, soon there will also be a 8250 which is 10 dollars cheaper without the Bluetooth.

    • @mattman8685
      @mattman8685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested I meant the 8260 my bad

    • @mattman8685
      @mattman8685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point though thanks

  • @brotherkeysworkshop
    @brotherkeysworkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m stuck between the 8220 and Milwaukee because I have the m18 line but that 8220 has more punch and comes with way more attachments for the $

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the 8220 comes with more attachments, but the battery basically only works with the tool.
      I did more testing with the M12 and found with a 6ah battery it performs better then the 8220.
      HomeDepot currently has a decent deal on a kit www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-12V-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Rotary-Tool-with-One-M12-4-0-Ah-and-One-M12-2-0-Ah-Battery-Pack-and-Charger-48-59-2424-2460-20/317064263
      At least with the m12 you can use the battery’s in other m12 tools if you want to expand and use the m18 charger.

  • @rickroel4994
    @rickroel4994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You shoulda used a bigger battery with the Milwaukee

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did in later videos, and the performance boost was impressive.

  • @james10739
    @james10739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is a nickel clad battery

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      using nickel oxide hydroxide and metallic cadmium as electrodes, they were used before Lithium. Charge times are typically higher and the amount of cycles you get before the battery starts to deteriorate is less then Lithium.

  • @Clemson-rc2yq
    @Clemson-rc2yq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this still have to go with the m12 because it’s still one charger I have to have and I have like 40 of those batteries. So I can run all day as with dremel I will have to buy all new batteries and have more chargers then I already have

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Understandable, I did find in later test the higher AH battery's give this tool a massive boost in performance.

    • @Clemson-rc2yq
      @Clemson-rc2yq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested I have. A bunch of m12-18 batteries I’m a contractor so I have a lot of tools.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Clemson-rc2yq Yep I think Dremel is more for hobbyists, batteries are hard to come by and are $$$ compared to Milwaukee.
      Really like to see Milwaukee release a brushless version.

    • @Clemson-rc2yq
      @Clemson-rc2yq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tools-Tested yes they need to. I just ordered one

  • @ProjectEGX
    @ProjectEGX ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the milawakee charger gotta be so big

  • @gfhjhvjgfvkjvv3666
    @gfhjhvjgfvkjvv3666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dremel sucks , keeps on dying and stops working while using it hard , I have to shut it off and restart it constantly … also it takes 1 hour to 2 to charge … sucks big time …
    Buying the Milwaukee next cause I’m on the platform ..

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      I retested the Milwaukee with the 6ah battery and it outperformed the 8260.

    • @gfhjhvjgfvkjvv3666
      @gfhjhvjgfvkjvv3666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested
      Cool, thks ….I have all those battery’s also .

  • @h3h3umm
    @h3h3umm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comparison. Was wondering if the Waukee was any good.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I personally thought it was going to do better, but if your running M12 you can't go wrong!

  • @java2894
    @java2894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does it hold 3/32 collet?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you can buy a collet set amzn.to/3UyKNYb

  • @cdrom1070
    @cdrom1070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the RPM might be limited to reduce wear on the bearings and dremel tools. If you watch recently youtube studies about abrasives, people determined a HUGE difference in run time with different cutting tools at low and high speeds. I think you sold me on the 8260, the milwakee is too loud and I feel like after two years its starting to get balance problems with the spindle. I have been waiting for a brushless one for a long time.

  • @dakotadriggers8838
    @dakotadriggers8838 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dremel makes the best dremel. who wouldve thought. am a bit surprised that the milwaukee didnt do better. maybe with the 2.5 ho?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So with the 5.0 HO the brushed Milwaukee will beat the 8260 see video th-cam.com/video/MjmuRbTwCk8/w-d-xo.html
      Because of the design the 8260 cant run the 4 and 6ah batterys sadly.
      Hopefully in a few weeks im going to dyno them against the new brushless Milwaukee.

  • @paulgerasim
    @paulgerasim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuff. i didnt know about wrench feature on my 8260. got it yesterday, and already lost one of the two i had. thank you.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it help, really a nice feature I can't really how many of those wrenches I've misplacced....

  • @jko0526
    @jko0526 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had 3 of those harbor freight rotary tools and all of them are junk. In Harbor Freight’s defense the first one I bought I put the warranty on it and every time I returned it they replace the broken one no questions asked.

  • @dinyardalal
    @dinyardalal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am surprised that you did not include the Bosch.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bosch version is not very common in the US, only place I can order it is from Amazon coming from the UK.

  • @Sir-Kay
    @Sir-Kay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, now that you have both the 8220 & 8260, which one would you advice I go for & why? being my first dremel tool and yes, I'll be cutting, polishing & the whole 9.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would say the 8220, yes the 8260 has about 20% more power but here its currently almost double the price vs 8220. To me its no worth the extra money, and the 8220 was Dremel's top cordless unit for 10 years.

    • @Sir-Kay
      @Sir-Kay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested What does it come in?
      the 8220 comes in a platinium package here with a proper toploader box with drawers in the front here in Europe, 1 charger, 2 batteries, 5 attachments and 56 accessories for $170
      Now, what do you get in the 8260 package and for how much $?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      8220 is $99 here and comes with 30 piece accessory kit.
      8260 is $169 and comes with 5 accessories.
      Both only have one battery

    • @Sir-Kay
      @Sir-Kay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested ​ Accessories are drill bits, cutting discs mandrels, sanding drums etc, but you forgot to mention how many attachments do they come with? attachments like straight-line and circle cutter, router etc, you know what I mean?

  • @Dr.Stein99
    @Dr.Stein99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well played. I was going to go with Milwaukee, but since creme decide to shsre battery with Bosch, I already have batteries. Dremel sells more rotary tools than Milwaukee.
    Not sure who or why anyone would want chsnge rpm Bluetooth app. But ever since they legalized the grass, things have been just getting more awkward.
    Thank you.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem, I will say the Milwaukee performance is a lot better with a 6ah battery.
      I did a updated video with the new 8240 and 8250.
      Yep really don’t understand the blue tooth…

  • @melsmobileservices
    @melsmobileservices 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own 2 of the 8220 models (1 still in the case). I also own the M12 system but not the "dremel" (needed for a job so purchased what was available). I wish that batteries were for the 8220 were easily available.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep that’s really the only drawback I see to the 8220, but at least they did fix that on the 8260.

    • @ProxyFinal
      @ProxyFinal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can actually hack the bosch 3.0 batteries to fit the 8220, but that's as far as you can go as far as runtime goes.

  • @christianbound4972
    @christianbound4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad they only sell the 8260 in a kit for $230CA. I have a Bosch charger and two barely used 2Ah 12V batteries already.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, for some reason Dremel only seems to like selling kits, but more battery’s can come in handy.

  • @elliotkane4443
    @elliotkane4443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, that Harbor Freight would be painful to use.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah trust me it is lol, happy to se they are discontinuing it.

  • @goinbananas1054
    @goinbananas1054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate that the 8260 defaults back to middle speed. I only used the lowest speed 90% of the time and my custom bits will come apart at the middle speed so I have to turn it on and off real fast so I can set the speed. The Bluetooth is a joke of a gimmick. The guide is nice but sending the actual speed to the Dremel is beyond pointless and the Bluetooth must require some amount of battery. For 170 it's not worth it, the 8220 is the way to go imo but I haven't tried the Milwaukee. I have HBs new wireless Dremel and it's a joke any amount of force and it will auto shut off and the Chicago Electric version's speed control will break after 3 days

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can see how that's an issue, yep that bluetooth is defiantly a gimmick. I found in later testing that the m12 with a 6.0ah battery actually will out perform the 8260...
      Yeah that Chicago Electric is bad.

    • @goinbananas1054
      @goinbananas1054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested yeah the M12 is the only one that I thought might compare but I haven't used it, the little HF one that's corded and like $10 is actually not bad for the price, it's good to have in the car if you have a way to power it. I found it to be the most centered meaning there is the least amount of wobble in the bits, you can really tell when you're grinding something hard. I want try the new HF corded version that's like $40. The Chicago Electric corded one is actually really good, I still have it and use it.