We’re all different people in different circumstances. Your grandmother and your boss have totally different views on who you are, and you on them. Your last significant other probably won’t see you the way your current one does. And you can’t look at your mom and see her as someone other than your mom. It’s one of those weird elements of being human. Ugh, it’s too early in the day to be this philosophical...
@MrHoppers002 yes and no. Yes, us nurses get to it in a sense, but it still affects us. When someone is actively in the hospital, you see them every day for weeks or months. You care about them, and most of the time they care for you as well. When we lose a patient we still have to do our job, but we are still human. We still feel that loss.
Am torn on this. There's a difference between letting emotions pass, letting go, and moving on versus suppressing them with distractions. Was hard to tell which Kitty was doing in this scene.
I don't find it funny at all. I knew exactly what she was doing. Everyone develops ways of leaving the events of the day at the hospital. If you absorb all that energy, it'll burn you up really fast. You have to be able to flip a switch and leave it behind. Some days, it's harder than others, but you hold your loved ones a bit tighter on those days.
on a daily basis nurses are more effective than doctors i feel. but doctors are more useful in case of something big happening , like surgery and such... nurses are badasses!
She was a war nurse, came home continued to nurse and was able to make it home every night to make dinner for her husband and children and the clean after them as well. Kitty is the best!!
So I haven’t watched the show but that sounds like an exhausting life & she’s still only one person, surely the husband helps her with the cooking and cleaning, because otherwise that is just so cruel. 😬
@@TheCherrykye Yikes, poor Kitty and all the other women who are expected to be completely drained of all their energy without complaint or any help from their spouses. This is why I avoid marriage like the plague, because that disparity in household chores still exists today, regardless of whether the woman works or not & it becomes even worse when children are born. I don’t know how more women haven’t abandoned their families and children at the rate men have, due to the constant pressure and no breaks, that genuinely baffles me. 🤔
@@taraz6786 you avoid marriage or relationships? Because really, if it’s the right person, and you’ve waited a certain amount of time , then it won’t happen
One of the best scenes of this show, this is the life of a RN, death, grief and your left to deal with it alone. You cant tell details to anyone for confidentiality laws. I could never take my daughters to work with me. there's literally no one in my home I could talk to about the grief and yes trauma i experienced. RNs are assaulted more often then cops, and we have no guns , tasers or mace. And,most hospitals wont support you when it happens.
@Gene Shimer yea most RNs do talk about work when they get home they just use the word “patient”. And assaulted more than cops? very doubtful. You could’ve talk to a psychiatrist about any of this at the very least. Idk why anyone would believe this story
@@thefisherman0074 learned this from an RN working for homeland security, an expert on safety, but if it sounds wrong to you, you must be right. Let me guess your a republican right? Think about it, ive been assaulted several times and threatened more times than I can count, but i have no gun, baton, Taser or pepper spray and no right to defend myself unless my life is in danger. And, violence against health care workers has dramatically increased during t he pandemic, we now carry devices to call security when we feel threatened. But i'm sure your right based on...nothing, and I'm wrong based on my 25 years experience.
@Morbo The Annihilator She was destined to be an actress, too. "Debra always dreamed to be an actress, but her parents were firmly opposed to the idea. They even sent her to the University of Rochester in New York because it offered no theater classes. But the school added a Drama department in Rupp's freshman year."
I work at a hospital now and this hits home. Even as a cleaner we see alot of dead bodies, nurses can be working on someone for hours than you have to clean the room after they didn't make, yet standing in a pool of their blood Hospital work is not for everyone
@@CountryLifestyle2023 thank you for doing the very important dirty work. Not everyone is willing to or understands how important it is. You are an unsung hero, especially during the pandemic. There is a higher exposure for employees like you.
@@CountryLifestyle2023 mad props to you for that. I worked EVS in hospitals, hospice, and behavior units for years. It's not easy. I'm glad I did it, but I doubt I could do it again. I could still feel my pager going off for weeks after I quit. You're doing massively important work
@@cremebrulee4759 Thank you! It's nice to hear that! We see alot of stuff and patients that need help yet we can't do anything, that is the worse part.
My mom ( now retired nurse, retired this year) came home pissed because she kept asking the doctors to prescribe a medication with an antihistamines because the drug was known to cause allergic reactions and they never did. They kept ignoring ger suggestion, then one day she started her shift and found this patient stracthing their itch body and then their tongue started swelling up and making hard for them to breathe. She had to administer the antihistamines but made sure to call in the doctor so he can witness how he almost killed a patient. When telling the story she almost started crying when describing the pain the patient was in and mentioned that the patient (psychiatric ward) already had an issue with taking medication and hated them and this episode just drove up their paranoia.
@@olavihekandjo2928 Thats because of the fact that somehow along the way the fact that nursing became a predominantly female occupation and the outward view of it molded, and twisted and mutated alongside the already rampantly present misogyny into the form it is today where Nurses are inherently devalued and believed to be basically not medical professionals but "NURSEmaids with a thermometer and a bedpan" . I use this quote by the way because I actually heard it from a doctor who was visiting my grandmother at the nursing home and had been unaware I was sitting on one of the waiting room chairs around the corner after him telling me to please leave the room because he needed to talk to my parents. I was only a kid at the time, like 7-8, and I figure in his own way he was trying to protect me from the fact that he was talking about her beginning to slide into untreatable dementia due to Alzheimer's. He also had told one of the nurses that she shouldnt be trying to give suggestions for treatment options because "she is not the specialist, and leave it to those who know better" (before he had asked me to leave). I was EXTREMELY angry at this because I knew he was insulting a very nice woman, and while I was just a kid I knew she was a VERY Good Nurse. How I knew this? All of this stemmed from the fact that the Nurse was actually a very caring woman who was so careful to take care of my grandmother while under her care and she told me all the time about her many, many years as a geriatric specialist and how she had gone to school to be a nurse for the elderly because of her own grandparents and how they were so badly treated because in those days the elderly werent cared for the right way in her home country (she was from Italy). She was with the residents 18 hours a day and learning all about their families and ailments and all the residents absolutely loved her and while my Gran was there for about 5-6 years I always made sure to stop off to see if Miss Delucia was there that day and say hello. So from everything I knew she WAS an expert in her profession and that mouthy little prick visiting doctor was merely the first in a long line of dismissive doctors sent over from the local hospital to check on some of the more intensive need patients every few days. Of course I am writing this a little more eloquently in retrospect based on my recollections from childhood, my thoughts on the matter were obviously less refined and wouldnt be useful to this present comment. Sadly that facility had to be shut down, NOT for a failure of their own, but for the fact that there had been a fire in the shared building and part of their facility was so badly damaged it required the moving of the patients into various facilities and by the time repairs had been finished sufficiently my grandmother was already settled into a new facility (which we later discovered was a bad mistake because it turned out the new facility was not anywhere near as good and in fact poorly run and was deceptive in its descriptions of its staff and their level of experience and such. We ultimately had to take her out of there as soon as we found out and moved her into our home and then had in home nurses visit daily to help with her care and my cousin became her primary caretaker during the day when the rest of the family was at school, work etc. She only survived a few more years due to the rapid onset of her Alzheimers but I wanted to mention this comment because of yours based on Nursing. Its why to this day I respect Nurses immensely for the fact that they are never given the respect they deserve, I feel.
Red was not that tough.Remember, he cried when he broke-up with his first girlfriend.He always acts tough in front of everybody like average dads do.Kitty was always the strong one.
Actually, Eric was a lot tougher than Red gave him credit for. He was never overtly bullied. He even stood up to jocks on more than one occasion without hesitation. He was willing to put himself on the line for friends and stand up for what he believed was right. Most importantly, he was willing to make hard decisions like stopping his engagement to Donna because he knew where they were headed wasn’t the life she deserved. Eric was Alpha.
Definitely happens. But as everywhere, all professions have their good and bad people. Nurses included just as doctors. Nowhere is perfect, and everyone can try to improve.
Yeah, they've gotta remember several times more information. That is why they surround themselves with specialists, nurses, and other professionals who can pick up the slack that their immense mental load creates.
Best bedside skills and physical exam techniques I learned as a physician were from nurses. I tell everyone: respect your nurse and help them out whenever they need it. They’ve saved me when I had no clue what to do.
Not a Nurse myself but I spend a lot of time with my Grandmother who has been one for... 20+ years? Not sure exactly where in the 20's. It's mental how used to injuries and stuff they are that would make me pale just being in the same room with, also have seen several full meals of baked goods in the staff rooms when I've been in there without fail, though the sheer quantity ussually present is apparently because the Doctors, suspiciously tend to be in the area when food is around, even when they don't work in that Ward. Just a weird quirk that I have noticed every time I end up in a staff room.
Much respect! I have Wegeners granulomatosis and I don't remember ANY of my doctor's. Just the nurses who worked so hard to make me comfortable and help me. Thank you for what you do ❤️
There's a similar bit on Scrubs where Carla challenges JD to say what's wrong with a patient without looking at his chart, and JD's inner monologue is something "Carla knew that doctors are helpless without the chart."
I love that driving home scene. Its his mother's ritual to let everything that happened in the hospital fall off so she can be the loving wife and mother at home. She transforms all the negativity into something positive and sings out loud.
as a hospital worker, i did feel sorry for them. but also I KNOW there are worse fates than dying. living on a machine and getting bedsores is no way to die either.
@@scott917 so true. That's why I've decided to be DNR when I'm too sick to decide or my family has to decide for me. Too many infections and problems, especially in some nursing homes.
Such outlets are so fucking important I cannot stress that enough. I work in a care home and every time someone dies on my shift I put on "Over and Done With" by the Proclaimers as loud as I can on my way home home. Helps me get through it all. Someone died in my arms a few days ago, I'm 20 years old. Not the career I would have chosen and not my main ambition but I wouldn't change it for the world
My best friend is an RN. She just retired. I am the person she could call when she had lost a friend she had been caring for. Thank you for what you do!
I'm not elderly yet, but on my way and I would certainly reach out to anyone kind showing an interest in me of any type. I want to thank you for being there in the moment.
I have been "just" cna for many years. I could write a book about the various ppl I took care of and work with. I won't. But it changes your life for ever.
tehfawkinman Yeah there's a very good percentage of nurses who just come in to get paid and they yell at everybody. I'm thinking of emergency rooms and especially rehab facilities. Ugh. If only it was rare.
Thank you for stating good teachers and not just teachers. My teacher asked me why am I in school because I didnt pay the fees on time when my parents were on the verge of divorce (the divorce didnt happen tho no worries)
Taking care of people with developmental disabilities turned me into an alcoholic for years. We were also ordered to ignore DNR orders which I'm pretty sure is illegal. One of the people I took care of had dementia so bad we had to feed her through a stomach tube. Nobody should be made to live like that.
Funny how a non-medical show is a more realistic portrayal of what real nurses go through than shows that are centered completely in hospitals. Im looking at you Grey's! 4 DOCTORS ambulating a patient? Puh-leeze! 😂
@@goddessmelanisia That is true as a medical science student, it shows you how Doctor intern mostly deal with, minus the sex. Also E.R show is really good as well.
@LegionIvory I do love her portrayal as she's gotten older. She knows Red and her have maybe another 20 years left at best, and she is done being nice unless you have actually earned it.
I saw this show when i was younger. Something I didn't see then but that i realise now is what an incredible actor Topher Grace (Eric) was/is. He is easily the best of the young main cast. He is really good in these scenes, how he reacts to all the different situations. Notice how much he conveys just with his eyes. He really had a range in a way that many of the other "kids" didn't at that point.
"Be kind to Nurses... They keep doctors from accidentally killing you!" That is a fact. Nurses save lives every day from mistaken diagnosis' from doctors. Doctors are smart, but nurses have so much patient time they see it all and can tell a few things doctors cant.
@@ylvavarynkottir2265 Yep. Medicine is very complicated and doctors and nurses are often overworked and understaffed and the only line of defense between you and death, and sometimes people break under those circumstances and make human errors. Thankfully a nurse or a pharmacist becomes a vital second and third set of eyes to prevent medical errors, and the errors occur because the system is so overstressed it's not even funny.
A nurse saved my life. She figured out that my intestine had perforated. The doctors, including the radiologist who missed the presence of free air in my x-ray would have unintentionally let me lay there and go rapidly downhill. I love nurses.
This reminds me of the stories where super entitled people go to the hospital and demand the doctor put the IV in because they don't trust nurses to do it properly. When nurses are the ones doing it every day and the doctor probably hasn't done it since they were a student.
this is one of my favorite kitty stories of the entire series. we learn that beneath the neuroticism and anxiety, there’s a brilliant and resilient woman and eric gains a new respect for her seeing all that she has to go through in a given day.
As a Nursing Assistant, I can confirm this is probably why she drinks. The job is NOT easy, and takes a lot of heart to do it. Most nurses that I work with (I refuse to name them out of mere respect), have coping methods because of the stressful job. Their coping method could be food, smoking, drinking, or for the oddballs like me, obsessive video game playing.
I heard of that: Nurses are more likely to engage in addictive or eating disordered behaviors. You sound like a good NA, I wish our society valued emotional intelligence and labor like it depends on it.
yeah, mine's video game compulsion too. I can totally relate to the death scene too. You just think to yourself ' yeah, he was a nice man' and then you move on because its time to pass the dinner trays. Ya just cant afford to emotionally invest yourself all the time on the job, otherwise the addiction gets worse. Another, healthier, compulsion I have is to scream/sing in my car on the way back from work
Yeah, I’m a CNA too, and there are some hard days. I think for me though, the fact I’m actually able to help and trying to make a difference is what gets me through it.
You have no idea. Some are worse. Like how one resident lied to her consultant and said she had ordered the urinalysis during admit. We're paper charts so what she did was tack on the order by doing two columns of labs. The original order was CBC PC CXR Since there were other orders below that and she can't insert anything, she did this CBC U/A PC Hbsag CXR So I got scolded for not carrying out the whole orders. She was a biatch doctor.
My dad passed recently in a hospital and from what gathered this is true. Oh and that the doctor cant hardly speak English and gets pissed when you cant fucking understand.
I like how the son grows more and more comfortable in actually following his mother around. I just think it's sweet that on 2:45 he is putting his words to defend her advice to the stuck-up doctor, and also helps her putting the body on the gurney.
I remember reading there’s still a disconnect between doctors and nurses and why it’s sometimes hard when they work together (usually ego/arrogance getting in the way)
Jasmine Bautista I know, I mean, how crushing must it be to deal with death like that on a normal basis. I mean, she had to get passed the death and move on and that was abbot upsetting when you think about it.
For all those who work at a medical center or a hospital. That's exactly how you deal with your day. Loud music ( and a cigar). But Mrs Forman is the best.
EmptyMan000 not depressing. tiresome but rewarding. for every death there's many more cured patients walking out the door and getting back to their lives.
You got it. Worked as a Nurse then an OT for nearly 40 years, and the ending of this vid really does describe how you keep going. Remember when I used to take non-hospital friends to the Hospital Social Club when there were gigs on and they could not get over how people were letting their hair down and having a good time ("This is amazing, i havnt had this good a time since i was a teenager" 38 year old engineer) ... those people had a working life that was intrinsically rewarding but difficult and needed balance, and this was the good time that provided some of that counterweight.
I partially agree and partially disagree because venting how life is going on at home can be at times healthy and sometimes your coworkers can become like family after a while. However gossiping about people's personal life is crossing the line.
@@tierefuerimmer9635 I get where you’re coming from When I come home from work (if my uncle isn’t on one of his rants again…) I’ll tell my family how work was And at work I can talk to my coworkers about issues at home before my shift or on our breaks
I love how Eric remembers his mother talking about Mr. Anderson at dinner, and his reaction to how much she knows about him and how she will miss him and then says the comment about making dinner. You can see how much he is understanding and appreciating his mother more, all this extra context placed upon what he previously knew and perceived about his mother, that all she did and experience was the home he knew, and all he is going through himself yet his mother is always there for him. I remember feeling like everything happening to me when I was a teenager were the biggest things ever, yet I always had my parents and brothers to rely on. Well, this scene shows so immaculately that they all have their own lives they live yet still show up for the ones they love. This scene, this entire show, has helped me see more sides to life and relationships of all kinds and how to be more empathetic to the loved ones around me.
All kidding aside, lets have a shout out to all the nurses, doctors and service men/women, be it local or foreign, for putting your lives in danger and saving lives. My mom was a head nurse and she saved many lives. They are not thanked enough. Love ya mom
My mom is a nurse. A paediatric nurse. She once had to pick me up from dance class and the first thing she said when I left the room was “My baby is dying.” This baby she had been taking care of for months. I’d seen pictures of her and heard so much about her. My heart absolutely broke for her. Any nurse, especially those who are moms, are really some of the strongest people you’ll ever meet
I get it, my niece is a NICU Nurse so she helps tiny premature babies. She's just 21, still in Nursing School, but sometimes there are babies that scream for hours. Then, she walks in, they start to calm, she picks them up and they stop crying and fall asleep. She has a special gift and loves those babies so much!
Pardon Me In most cases that is because there is so little money and personal for them to work right. Sometimes nurse have to work in really bad environments while the world outside of healthcare is just ignoring how bad the healthcare situation is locally. Believe me, when you are doing a shift with another nurse while it should've actually been 5 nurses doing a shift, it's really hard to stay nice, not stressed out, and hasty. It sucks to want to give more care than you can time wise.
@@TheLoonu theres a difference between being stressed and being abusive. There is never any excuse for being abusive. A nurse i had, despite me telling her i had an eating disorder, not only purposely triggered it but encouraged it so that i would fit into the bmi requirements when my stomach was visibly flat. Another nurse screamed at me to shut up and stop crying when i was having a panic attack brought on by ptsd and sensory overload due to my autism and when i tried to explain that she said i dont care, be quiet. Another nurse not only hit a nerve when drawing blood (a thing that hasnt happened before or since, despite weekly blood draws, due to me having very clear and prominent veins, never saw her again either) she repeatedly stirred around inside my arm and pulled out fully and inserted the same needle, repeatedly. I still have sensory issues and pain in my arm due to it. Not everyone is nice no matter how defensive of your profession you feel and defending the people who do this type of shit only serves to not only invalidate victims of medical abuse but also to make those victims not trust healthcare at all. If you dont know what a person has gone through then who are you to deem it as non damaging and that the nurse probably just had "a bad day" The commenter you responded to was obviously speaking from personal trauma and you tried to, without inquiring further, make it look like theyre overexaggerating. Your words have power and you have used that power carelessly. If you really do care for people then maybe dont call victims liars without hearing them out, sheesh. For the older written record of nurses running hospitals like a prison, look up nellie bly and how she was treated less than 200 years ago and then look up testimonies from recent times and see the heartbreaking similarities. Be a better person
Yup! That’s exactly how we cope. We see a babies being born and we see patients die, all in the same day. Then, we have to decompress on our way home so we don’t bring our work into our homes. It’s a profession that‘s stressful but it’s very rewarding. I wouldn’t have it any other way. 😊
You learn to compartmentalize. It's like with teaching. I see dozens of kids come through with crap home lives. Victims of borderline abuse but because it's not quite, there's nothing I can do. Parents just do the minimum. You love each and do your best to help while they are in your class but if you worry about them too much you will become depressed and quit the field. Some things you can't control. Your job is to provide the best service you can while you have them. But sometimes you see a past student in the news for some mess and feel sad. You called it years ago but nothing you could do.
But sometimes there are some incidents which haunt you for a long time. Three years ago, I was on my Casualty rotation, there was this big gas explosion in the city. I saw a lot of deaths and injuries that day and I never got it out of my system.
This is why Kitty is one of the best tv moms. She not only took great care of Eric, treated his friends like her own kids (even letting Hyde live with them) her whole job also revolved around taking care of others and she genuinely enjoyed doing all of it.
As a SICU nurse in NYC getting my ass handed to me daily, nightly, and ever so rightly, I can confirm this is very true. Coding one guy then turning around to give another his dinner. And the end scene is perfect, not a nurse out there that doesnt go home blasting something
I feel extremely bad for nurses in major cities like New York because it just seems like a living nightmare for them every shift. I can understand this a bit because I have a friend named Wendy and she once worked as a surgical nurse at St. Anthony's Medical Center in Columbus, OH. Columbus is the biggest city in Ohio in addition to being the state capital.
@@leonardo899 well it is a tv show and 2. It is exactly something the character of Eric would do 3. at a hospital the doctor while he is higher up the food chain is not the boss of the nurses. They work for the hospital and have their own nursing supervisors etc. Its different in a doctors private office when they hire a nurse but in hospitals the nurses don't answer directly to the doctors, except when it comes to the treatment of the patients.
@@leonardo899 the Doctors don’t cut our pay checks, they are not God. Some just have a God complex. I’ll stand up for myself any day. I once received an order and after I read it I said, “ if I do that Doctor I’ll kill him.’’You should have seen the heads snap when I said that! Loved it!
I respect every nurse I meet because of the nurse that took care of my grandma when she had her stroke. She paid attention to the medications that would give her bad side effects and did everything to avoid them and find alternatives. The doctor almost prescribed a medication that would give my grandma diarrhea and she jumped right in and said no and explained why. He got irritated at her for questioning him in front his patients but when he left, my mom and I thanked her profusely. It was around Christmas when this happened and I felt really grateful so I made homemade assorted cookies and put them in cookie tins that I wrapped with ribbon. When we went to give them to her she was so surprised. She's used to people not really showing appreciation. But her face lit up and I'll never forget how she helped.
She is the kind of Nurse I want to be once I finish my degree (I just started). And you were also so sweet and I wish there were more people who understand that nurses aren't crap, like you ^^
@MrHoppers002 Possibly it comes down to the slightly different focus on what the two jobs entail. A doctor's primary job is to cure an illness or, in cases of a chronic disease, minimize the damage to the patient. A nurse's primary job is to help the patient heal from, or manage, their illness. Usually this is done by carrying out the doctor's orders but sometimes, as in the original comment, we get a doctor who wants to use the (presumably) most effective medicine to treat the illness clash with a nurse who knows the unwanted side effects of said medication is going to undermine the patient's overall healing process. Or basically- doctors fight the illness, nurses help the sick.
The way Mrs. Forman is singing as she drives home is me when I'm on my way home from work. Granted my job isn't like hers, but it's nice to release the stress and be happy. :)
After my double jaw surgery, a nurse saw that I was panicking because my parents weren’t there when I woke up. (They were at home getting ready to see me) the nurse sat down on my bed, held me close and sang me a lullaby to calm me down. It worked. I’m so thankful for that nurse and all the work nurses do.
I loved the way Topher delivered the line "I know when I go to the hospital, I like to not die!". Kitty was a force to be reckoned with! Without her that doctor would probably face countless malpractice suits.
Dude I'm aware. I meant the ending to the episode and saying that the entire show is good. Well everything but the final season tho when Eric and Kelso came back that was cool.
Im an ER nurse. N my husband is a doctor. We rarely see each other. Sometimes even up to 72hours. Thats just how busy our work is. Respect to all medical personnel out there. Especially the nurses.
My mom is a nurse, and I, a doctor. I love and respect nurses because I know that we doctors would be so lost without them. Yes, we do know more than them, but they beat us in care and compassion.
Introduce yourself to staff. Make rounds with the primary nurse at bedside and talk to patients and ask nurses if there is anything else the patient needs. If they see you truly care for the patient, and you are professional with the staff, you will have a great working relationship
I lived with a surgeon as she went through residency. She said more than once she never would have made it through residency without the help of the Nurses
+Jn Well, it is only because the deaths and suffering are usually useless and do not lead to a baby or health. But it's a bit weird to just state that being shot at a war is worse than being in labour for let's say 38 hours.
Ummmm.... no. Fighting in a war is monumentally worse than childbirth. Put yourself in a situation where people are trying to kill you constantly for months, if not years on end. Constant gunfire, never knowing if one of those bullets is going to hit you. Artillery fire that goes on for days on end, and one single round could land on or near you and that'll be it for you. If you're one of the lucky ones an explosive shell doesn't land on you'll likely have the dubious pleasure of seeing your friends, people you have trained and fought alongside for months/years blown to pieces. People you trust to have your back and rely upon to survive. There one moment, gone the next. All happening in the middle of winter, snow everywhere but you and your fellow soldiers have to just hunker down, soaked and frozen in a foxhole, unable to start a fire to keep warm as the enemy might spot it and fucking kill you because you gave away your position. Lol, 38 hours of pain. Try a lifetime for a lot of the people who go to war. Those who survives bombs or shells going off are frequently in pain for the rest of their lives and left physically disabled. Potentially minus limbs they were previously rather attached to. Covered in scar tissue from burns that never really stop hurting. Oh, and all of the above frequently leads people to lose their fucking minds. Shell shock, or as we call it these days PTSD? Those who go through war often suffer from a lifetime of psychological problems as a result of their experiences in war. And to make it even better, it may not have even been your choice to go! You may have been conscripted on pain of imprisonment and forced to fight in said war as countless people have throughout history. Most women CHOOSE to have children, But no, 38 hours of pain (likely with an epidural) surrounded by medical professionals and family that ends with you taking your newborn child back to your nice safe home. Totally worse than having to go to war.
+Norfookian I wasn't talking about epidurals ofcourse. And I believe we were solemny talking about pain and not about trauma. Because I just said that ofcourse the baby-aspect changes that. Ofcourse women get postnatal depression and psychosis as well, because not everyone has the warm family you're suggesting. But why on earth is this discussion taking such a dark turn? It was óne person that suggested it JEESH. WE STARTED on the comparison with loving people and seeing them die each day, failing to be able to help them. THAT is what the comparison was, people.
Kidney stones are worse than childbirth. Bullets to the legs are worse than childbirth. Cutting your hand off is (probably) worse than childbirth. However, I assume that childbirth is worse than breaking a bone. And I hear your pelvis actually breaks in many situations.
That singing in the car reminds me of my Dad. He’s not in the medical field but he is a cameraman for the news and he’s seen a lot of bad things but he copes with it well. Once after a bad fire in an apartment building that had a lot of fatalities he came home and replaced every smoke alarm in the house. Another time he was in the basement of a murderer who killed a girl about my age out riding her bike. The next time I wanted to ride my bike to the local library he told me he was driving me and waited about an hour while I got my books and did some reading off of my fines. We’ve just learned not to question why he does some of the things he does.
As a nurse, I really am thankful for the writers and producers to make kitty such a cool nurse character. I personally, to cope after stress, like to turn on the volume of my car loud with music I enjoy. I love her. 💗
Kitty has always been one of my favorite characters because she reminds me of how my mom is. And seriously, nurses are superheroes. Nurses have always treated me so well, they're caring and compassionate and they bust their asses.
@@EmptyMan000 it’s the personalities. My dad thinks he’s better than my mom. But they don’t argue about medical issues. My mom wouldn’t claim to know more
Best RN ever, she reminds me of so many of the O.R. Nurses I’ve worked with over the years! Doing the hard stuff with a brain in their head, a smile on their face and the best sense of humor to deal with it all!
I am a nurse who works in a hospital. I can say that the scene when she drives home is 1000000% accurate! Except I usually jam to Green Day or The Killers.
There's a lot of bad doctors and residents who hold that level of arrogance and smugness. I had to stop a number of bad decisions and go over heads about it to ensure patients stayed safe. In the end, nurses are the front line who protect patients from the follies of pride.
I have so much fucking respect for nurses though. They put up with so much crap not just from patients but the families and the doctors like you great people thank you for not killing me and putting up with annoying patients.
I've worked in a class 1 trauma hospital for 35 years. 3 more to go. It's not for everyone. You either learn and accept the circle of life fact quickly or lose your mind and ability to help those in need. We keep and hold the hope and fight for the joy of life over death at all cost.
Reminds me of when my mom was in hospital, recovering from swine flu, when a doctor came to take her away for someone else's operation. He wouldn't accept that it was a mistake either, didn't appreciate her holding the whole thing up. She had to call in a nurse to confirm that she wasn't scheduled for any operation.
I love how they included Kitty's disclosure a patient's name, and talking about their life outside the medical setting with her family. It really keeps with the period before HIPAA was enacted.
As if that doesn't happen nowadays all the time and is a problem at all. People need to talk about shit, let it out, so to speak. What kitty told eric in that clip was not at all what HIPPA was enacted to prevent.
@@music79075 -HIPAA H - Health I - Insurance P - Portability and A - Accountability A - Act It helps insure patient information stays private. Health professionals are forbidden to just go around talking about our patients’ conditions. We could lose our jobs, and could even be sued.
@@music79075 say you have a patient. You aren't allowed to talk about any of their information publicly. (Let's call the hypothetical patient mr anderson) if Mr Anderson had a foot amputated from a car crash you are not allowed to talk about it technically. If it's a work buddy you usually will find ways to talk about it without breaking HIPPA. So you'll leave out all the personal information like his name being Mr Anderson, things like his age, where he lives if you somehow got access to that. You would probably just say hey did you hear about the guy that had his foot amputated
m8trxd that is bullshit in my experience, I never get treated better than my colleagues. And more often than not I get sent if there is any heavy lifting to do.
from the title I can say: HOLY FUDGING YES! My doctor had the wrong file, therefore the wrong medication for me.. TWICE! the nurse had to point it out.. TWICE
My mother was a nurse (in France) and this is barely a caricature. I went to work with her once and she catches doctors making mistakes all the time...
As someone who works in a hospital, I can vouch this as an accurate depiction of the relationship many doctors have with their nurses. Most docs are good guys, but very much the definition of 'idiot savants.' Many are lucky to have brilliant nurses to catch them for stuff like we see here.
This clip aged well…so very well. Shout out to all the medical health workers. Especially those who care about doing the right thing and paying attention to their patients ❤️
I love that Eric gets to see that his mom is more than just his mom
your icon makes me want to cuddle a Snorlax
Elizabeth Castanon A better way to phrase is may be that she is an actual person apart from being "Eric's mom".
Elizabeth Castanon Yeah, I knew that's what you said. And then that's what I said.
Micah Williams jnn
We’re all different people in different circumstances. Your grandmother and your boss have totally different views on who you are, and you on them. Your last significant other probably won’t see you the way your current one does. And you can’t look at your mom and see her as someone other than your mom. It’s one of those weird elements of being human.
Ugh, it’s too early in the day to be this philosophical...
She has to sing to keep from thinking about it or she will cry. This is both comedic and realistic at the same time. Good scene.
Cassandra God bless her!
@MrHoppers002 yes and no. Yes, us nurses get to it in a sense, but it still affects us. When someone is actively in the hospital, you see them every day for weeks or months. You care about them, and most of the time they care for you as well. When we lose a patient we still have to do our job, but we are still human. We still feel that loss.
Am torn on this. There's a difference between letting emotions pass, letting go, and moving on versus suppressing them with distractions. Was hard to tell which Kitty was doing in this scene.
I don't find it funny at all. I knew exactly what she was doing. Everyone develops ways of leaving the events of the day at the hospital. If you absorb all that energy, it'll burn you up really fast. You have to be able to flip a switch and leave it behind. Some days, it's harder than others, but you hold your loved ones a bit tighter on those days.
MrHoppers002 i don’t think they become desensitized, i think they just learn better ways to cope over time.
On a side note Nurses are fucking amazing mad respect for them
ablacklegion actually in my country they are horrible.
what country are you from Miss
Seems like Doctors do 5% of the work and get all the credit. Not saying they are not important, just feel nurses do all the thankless hard work.
on a daily basis nurses are more effective than doctors i feel. but doctors are more useful in case of something big happening , like surgery and such... nurses are badasses!
starcrafter13terran I've heard it's the same for pharm techs.
She was a war nurse, came home continued to nurse and was able to make it home every night to make dinner for her husband and children and the clean after them as well. Kitty is the best!!
So I haven’t watched the show but that sounds like an exhausting life & she’s still only one person, surely the husband helps her with the cooking and cleaning, because otherwise that is just so cruel. 😬
@@taraz6786 it set in the 70s. Her husband started helping when he gets fired but other than that
@@TheCherrykye Yikes, poor Kitty and all the other women who are expected to be completely drained of all their energy without complaint or any help from their spouses. This is why I avoid marriage like the plague, because that disparity in household chores still exists today, regardless of whether the woman works or not & it becomes even worse when children are born. I don’t know how more women haven’t abandoned their families and children at the rate men have, due to the constant pressure and no breaks, that genuinely baffles me. 🤔
@@taraz6786 that's exactly why I'm not interested in marriage and kids! Life is hard enough on my own!
@@taraz6786 you avoid marriage or relationships? Because really, if it’s the right person, and you’ve waited a certain amount of time , then it won’t happen
Eric: "how do you-"
Kitty: *singing*
Eric: "how do you deal with this?!"
Kitty: *sings louder*
Facts
Same though.
One of the best scenes of this show, this is the life of a RN, death, grief and your left to deal with it alone. You cant tell details to anyone for confidentiality laws. I could never take my daughters to work with me. there's literally no one in my home I could talk to about the grief and yes trauma i experienced. RNs are assaulted more often then cops, and we have no guns , tasers or mace. And,most hospitals wont support you when it happens.
@Gene Shimer yea most RNs do talk about work when they get home they just use the word “patient”. And assaulted more than cops? very doubtful. You could’ve talk to a psychiatrist about any of this at the very least. Idk why anyone would believe this story
@@thefisherman0074 learned this from an RN working for homeland security, an expert on safety, but if it sounds wrong to you, you must be right. Let me guess your a republican right? Think about it, ive been assaulted several times and threatened more times than I can count, but i have no gun, baton, Taser or pepper spray and no right to defend myself unless my life is in danger. And, violence against health care workers has dramatically increased during t he pandemic, we now carry devices to call security when we feel threatened. But i'm sure your right based on...nothing, and I'm wrong based on my 25 years experience.
We now know where Eric gets his smart ass attitude.
Yup, though the bitch genetics skipped Kitty and went right to Laurie.
Why do you think Red tolerates it from Eric? 😁
Red CAN be a grouchy sarcastic smart ass himself on occasion too though! He can just pull it off better because he's ex military macho dad.
Honestly, Eric got it from both.
What about the dumbass one?
Kitty is my favourite character; she's genuinely caring, intelligent, hardworking and fucking hilarious. So much respect for her
Sure, Jackie is hot! And Red is the best hard-ass ever! But there's no doubt that Kitty is truly one of the best TV characters ever!
I think the fact that Kitty is the complete opposite of Red is what makes them so great together.
@Morbo The Annihilator She was destined to be an actress, too.
"Debra always dreamed to be an actress, but her parents were firmly opposed to the idea. They even sent her to the University of Rochester in New York because it offered no theater classes. But the school added a Drama department in Rupp's freshman year."
@@garrettwidner6915 I wonder how much fun Debra had sticking it to them
She was the mother no one in the show deserved. Except Hyde. Hyde probably treats her the best.
"I know when I go to the hospital, I'd like to not die." HAHA ERIC XD
Good one, Eric! #LOL
What show is disss
No wonder Kitty loves her so much, he got all her traits.
I'd add, just out of spite "Especially not by some two-bit incompetent quack posing as a doctor!"
I laughed till I choked
I love how his attitude changes from “I don’t want to go, this is dumb” to “Wow, my mom is actually amazing”
I know. I like that Eric got to see his mom be somebody other than "Mom".
I work at a hospital now and this hits home. Even as a cleaner we see alot of dead bodies, nurses can be working on someone for hours than you have to clean the room after they didn't make, yet standing in a pool of their blood
Hospital work is not for everyone
@@CountryLifestyle2023 thank you for doing the very important dirty work. Not everyone is willing to or understands how important it is. You are an unsung hero, especially during the pandemic. There is a higher exposure for employees like you.
@@CountryLifestyle2023 mad props to you for that. I worked EVS in hospitals, hospice, and behavior units for years. It's not easy. I'm glad I did it, but I doubt I could do it again.
I could still feel my pager going off for weeks after I quit.
You're doing massively important work
@@cremebrulee4759 Thank you! It's nice to hear that!
We see alot of stuff and patients that need help yet we can't do anything, that is the worse part.
“Well he’s allergic to penicillin and I thought arithromyacin might make him a touch less dead!”
I’m so dead😂😂
Pretty sure that would be him actually
Typical arrogant "I know best" doctor. I know the type. I've met plenty of them in my life.
My mom ( now retired nurse, retired this year) came home pissed because she kept asking the doctors to prescribe a medication with an antihistamines because the drug was known to cause allergic reactions and they never did. They kept ignoring ger suggestion, then one day she started her shift and found this patient stracthing their itch body and then their tongue started swelling up and making hard for them to breathe. She had to administer the antihistamines but made sure to call in the doctor so he can witness how he almost killed a patient.
When telling the story she almost started crying when describing the pain the patient was in and mentioned that the patient (psychiatric ward) already had an issue with taking medication and hated them and this episode just drove up their paranoia.
@@olavihekandjo2928 Thats because of the fact that somehow along the way the fact that nursing became a predominantly female occupation and the outward view of it molded, and twisted and mutated alongside the already rampantly present misogyny into the form it is today where Nurses are inherently devalued and believed to be basically not medical professionals but "NURSEmaids with a thermometer and a bedpan" .
I use this quote by the way because I actually heard it from a doctor who was visiting my grandmother at the nursing home and had been unaware I was sitting on one of the waiting room chairs around the corner after him telling me to please leave the room because he needed to talk to my parents. I was only a kid at the time, like 7-8, and I figure in his own way he was trying to protect me from the fact that he was talking about her beginning to slide into untreatable dementia due to Alzheimer's. He also had told one of the nurses that she shouldnt be trying to give suggestions for treatment options because "she is not the specialist, and leave it to those who know better" (before he had asked me to leave). I was EXTREMELY angry at this because I knew he was insulting a very nice woman, and while I was just a kid I knew she was a VERY Good Nurse. How I knew this?
All of this stemmed from the fact that the Nurse was actually a very caring woman who was so careful to take care of my grandmother while under her care and she told me all the time about her many, many years as a geriatric specialist and how she had gone to school to be a nurse for the elderly because of her own grandparents and how they were so badly treated because in those days the elderly werent cared for the right way in her home country (she was from Italy). She was with the residents 18 hours a day and learning all about their families and ailments and all the residents absolutely loved her and while my Gran was there for about 5-6 years I always made sure to stop off to see if Miss Delucia was there that day and say hello. So from everything I knew she WAS an expert in her profession and that mouthy little prick visiting doctor was merely the first in a long line of dismissive doctors sent over from the local hospital to check on some of the more intensive need patients every few days. Of course I am writing this a little more eloquently in retrospect based on my recollections from childhood, my thoughts on the matter were obviously less refined and wouldnt be useful to this present comment.
Sadly that facility had to be shut down, NOT for a failure of their own, but for the fact that there had been a fire in the shared building and part of their facility was so badly damaged it required the moving of the patients into various facilities and by the time repairs had been finished sufficiently my grandmother was already settled into a new facility (which we later discovered was a bad mistake because it turned out the new facility was not anywhere near as good and in fact poorly run and was deceptive in its descriptions of its staff and their level of experience and such. We ultimately had to take her out of there as soon as we found out and moved her into our home and then had in home nurses visit daily to help with her care and my cousin became her primary caretaker during the day when the rest of the family was at school, work etc.
She only survived a few more years due to the rapid onset of her Alzheimers but I wanted to mention this comment because of yours based on Nursing. Its why to this day I respect Nurses immensely for the fact that they are never given the respect they deserve, I feel.
Yikes though, is penicillin allergy that rare? My brother is super allergic.
Eric got to see that Kitty is the tough one instead of Red lol
rather as tought as Red ... just on the inside
I think there both pretty tough that’s why their together
Yeah they're both tough. I mean Red served in Korea and it's implied he also did some time in Vietnam. Idk how Eric came out a beta male
Red was not that tough.Remember, he cried when he broke-up with his first girlfriend.He always acts tough in front of everybody like average dads do.Kitty was always the strong one.
Actually, Eric was a lot tougher than Red gave him credit for. He was never overtly bullied. He even stood up to jocks on more than one occasion without hesitation. He was willing to put himself on the line for friends and stand up for what he believed was right. Most importantly, he was willing to make hard decisions like stopping his engagement to Donna because he knew where they were headed wasn’t the life she deserved. Eric was Alpha.
As a nurse I can confirm. I saved patients from stupid doctor's medical orders a few times.
Definitely happens. But as everywhere, all professions have their good and bad people. Nurses included just as doctors. Nowhere is perfect, and everyone can try to improve.
Thanks for keeping us not dead
Pharmacy technician. Multiple saves here.
Yeah, they've gotta remember several times more information. That is why they surround themselves with specialists, nurses, and other professionals who can pick up the slack that their immense mental load creates.
Best bedside skills and physical exam techniques I learned as a physician were from nurses. I tell everyone: respect your nurse and help them out whenever they need it. They’ve saved me when I had no clue what to do.
"AU! ma'am you're hurting me." "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT PAIN IS!" "okay"
It's spelt *OW!*
Vegard Riis 😂😂 funny!
Hellwyck Depends on where you're from
where I come from is "AU" so I approve this :v on the other hand, I can't stop thinking about Astronomical Units so now I dissapprove >:v
What shows disss
I've been a nurse 20 years. This is still one of the best and most accurate TV depictions of a nurse's life I've ever seen.
Same here. Been nursing for 22 years.
I used to work in medical staffing.
Dead on.
@Spike Crazy awesome.
Not a Nurse myself but I spend a lot of time with my Grandmother who has been one for... 20+ years? Not sure exactly where in the 20's. It's mental how used to injuries and stuff they are that would make me pale just being in the same room with, also have seen several full meals of baked goods in the staff rooms when I've been in there without fail, though the sheer quantity ussually present is apparently because the Doctors, suspiciously tend to be in the area when food is around, even when they don't work in that Ward. Just a weird quirk that I have noticed every time I end up in a staff room.
Much respect! I have Wegeners granulomatosis and I don't remember ANY of my doctor's. Just the nurses who worked so hard to make me comfortable and help me. Thank you for what you do ❤️
As a nurse, i can confirm that the scene where the doctor is about to give the patient the wrong info happens more often than you think
There's a similar bit on Scrubs where Carla challenges JD to say what's wrong with a patient without looking at his chart, and JD's inner monologue is something "Carla knew that doctors are helpless without the chart."
it killed my uncle.
@@mrfivegold Sad to hear that
I have been given the wrong information in the hospital lol, thankfully I wasn’t paralyzed like they said I was
Yikes! 🫨
I love that driving home scene. Its his mother's ritual to let everything that happened in the hospital fall off so she can be the loving wife and mother at home. She transforms all the negativity into something positive and sings out loud.
It’s definitely a healthy outlet.
Yes, you have to do that. We nurses also develop a kind of twisted sense of humor too.
as a hospital worker, i did feel sorry for them. but also I KNOW there are worse fates than dying. living on a machine and getting bedsores is no way to die either.
@@scott917 so true. That's why I've decided to be DNR when I'm too sick to decide or my family has to decide for me. Too many infections and problems, especially in some nursing homes.
Such outlets are so fucking important I cannot stress that enough. I work in a care home and every time someone dies on my shift I put on "Over and Done With" by the Proclaimers as loud as I can on my way home home. Helps me get through it all. Someone died in my arms a few days ago, I'm 20 years old.
Not the career I would have chosen and not my main ambition but I wouldn't change it for the world
"Im gonna miss him ... " thats one of the toughest things on the job.
Im a nurse for elderly and sometimes you really connect with them
My best friend is an RN. She just retired. I am the person she could call when she had lost a friend she had been caring for. Thank you for what you do!
Me too I had patients whom I took care of for years and you do miss them
I'm not elderly yet, but on my way and I would certainly reach out to anyone kind showing an interest in me of any type. I want to thank you for being there in the moment.
I have been "just" cna for many years. I could write a book about the various ppl I took care of and work with. I won't. But it changes your life for ever.
I fully agree with you I work as a CNA and I've gotten pretty close to some of my residence
Nurses, like good teachers, are angels on earth.
Juma Coates Not all of em deserve respect.
tehfawkinman But many of them earn it and then some.
tehfawkinman Yeah there's a very good percentage of nurses who just come in to get paid and they yell at everybody. I'm thinking of emergency rooms and especially rehab facilities. Ugh. If only it was rare.
Pardon Me Sorry but have you maybe thought about the reason why those nurses may seem more stressed out?
Thank you for stating good teachers and not just teachers. My teacher asked me why am I in school because I didnt pay the fees on time when my parents were on the verge of divorce (the divorce didnt happen tho no worries)
A nurse argued with a doctor and saved my brothers life.
Good to hear!
I'd like your comment, but it's at 420 likes
Thank God for that nurse. Glad your brother is still around
I love Eric sticking up for his mother against that obnoxious doctor! “I know that when I go to the hospital, I’d like to not die!”
He's always been really close to Kitty so I enjoy their bonding episodes.
Love it too! He truly appreciates his mum. ❤
Whoever wrote this episode definitely knows the business. Spot on.
Is this why Kitty smokes and drinks?
Correct.
iRazenrak yup.
Probably. Many high stress jobs leave workers with bad habits like that
The drinking yes, the smoking........ her mother in law.
Yep
Everyone knows Kitty drinks, but no one asks why Kitty drinks. But yeah, a great sequence from the show.
Taking care of people with developmental disabilities turned me into an alcoholic for years. We were also ordered to ignore DNR orders which I'm pretty sure is illegal. One of the people I took care of had dementia so bad we had to feed her through a stomach tube. Nobody should be made to live like that.
Funny how a non-medical show is a more realistic portrayal of what real nurses go through than shows that are centered completely in hospitals. Im looking at you Grey's! 4 DOCTORS ambulating a patient? Puh-leeze! 😂
The bit where nurses catch doctors' mistakes isn't for laughs, either - it's a deliberate safety check.
Most nurses and doctors I know consider Scrubs to be the most accurate.
...How many doctors do you need to ambulate a patient?
@@ANGELiki1992 none cause they never do
@@goddessmelanisia That is true as a medical science student, it shows you how Doctor intern mostly deal with, minus the sex. Also E.R show is really good as well.
The way she's such as a boss at work, deals with her ungrateful family and still has a GENUINE smile on her face is astounding
It's the booze.
Which is why I love how in That 90s Show she's completely over the bullshit. She's nowhere near as nice as she used to be. lol
@LegionIvory I do love her portrayal as she's gotten older. She knows Red and her have maybe another 20 years left at best, and she is done being nice unless you have actually earned it.
"Mom, how do you do this every day?"
"Do run do run d-d-d-do run" (and there's your answer right there, hon)
Who sings?
Yara CM Bad blood - Elton John
Bad blood Neil sedaka feat Elton John
I thought it's Duran Duran d-d-d-duran-ran...
@@rajeshsrajeshs yeah I thought that too
I kept looking up Bad Blood by Duran Duran
One of the best relationships in the entire show is between Eric and Kitty. Great mom and son moments!
Agreed!
Absolutely
I saw this show when i was younger. Something I didn't see then but that i realise now is what an incredible actor Topher Grace (Eric) was/is. He is easily the best of the young main cast. He is really good in these scenes, how he reacts to all the different situations. Notice how much he conveys just with his eyes. He really had a range in a way that many of the other "kids" didn't at that point.
Albin Ahlsén I agree. Wish Topher would get better roles.
Albin Ahlsén too bad he can’t get a job anymore
L.A. Jones why is that?
EuRice Queen well have you seen him in anything lately?
L.A. Jones he was in american ultra but that was 2 years ago. and i loved to hate the character he played then. hihi
"Be kind to Nurses... They keep doctors from accidentally killing you!" That is a fact. Nurses save lives every day from mistaken diagnosis' from doctors. Doctors are smart, but nurses have so much patient time they see it all and can tell a few things doctors cant.
Same with pharmacists! The number of would-be lethal wrong dosages, or unoticed drug interactions is insane
@@ylvavarynkottir2265 Yep.
Medicine is very complicated and doctors and nurses are often overworked and understaffed and the only line of defense between you and death, and sometimes people break under those circumstances and make human errors.
Thankfully a nurse or a pharmacist becomes a vital second and third set of eyes to prevent medical errors, and the errors occur because the system is so overstressed it's not even funny.
A nurse saved my life. She figured out that my intestine had perforated. The doctors, including the radiologist who missed the presence of free air in my x-ray would have unintentionally let me lay there and go rapidly downhill.
I love nurses.
This reminds me of the stories where super entitled people go to the hospital and demand the doctor put the IV in because they don't trust nurses to do it properly. When nurses are the ones doing it every day and the doctor probably hasn't done it since they were a student.
@@gurglequeen433 yea you want the person who does it all the time to be the person doing it.
this is one of my favorite kitty stories of the entire series. we learn that beneath the neuroticism and anxiety, there’s a brilliant and resilient woman and eric gains a new respect for her seeing all that she has to go through in a given day.
As a Nursing Assistant, I can confirm this is probably why she drinks. The job is NOT easy, and takes a lot of heart to do it. Most nurses that I work with (I refuse to name them out of mere respect), have coping methods because of the stressful job. Their coping method could be food, smoking, drinking, or for the oddballs like me, obsessive video game playing.
I heard of that: Nurses are more likely to engage in addictive or eating disordered behaviors.
You sound like a good NA, I wish our society valued emotional intelligence and labor like it depends on it.
yeah, mine's video game compulsion too. I can totally relate to the death scene too. You just think to yourself ' yeah, he was a nice man' and then you move on because its time to pass the dinner trays. Ya just cant afford to emotionally invest yourself all the time on the job, otherwise the addiction gets worse. Another, healthier, compulsion I have is to scream/sing in my car on the way back from work
No wonder your name is Dorkiplier
Yeah, I’m a CNA too, and there are some hard days. I think for me though, the fact I’m actually able to help and trying to make a difference is what gets me through it.
I like you, i wish luck in your truly necessary work, respect 😃
"a touch less dead" 😂😂
According to my (RN) mom, that is not always an exaggeration of a doctor's personality.
I'm a Nurse and I can confirm it.
You have no idea. Some are worse.
Like how one resident lied to her consultant and said she had ordered the urinalysis during admit.
We're paper charts so what she did was tack on the order by doing two columns of labs.
The original order was
CBC
PC
CXR
Since there were other orders below that and she can't insert anything, she did this
CBC U/A
PC Hbsag
CXR
So I got scolded for not carrying out the whole orders.
She was a biatch doctor.
My dad passed recently in a hospital and from what gathered this is true. Oh and that the doctor cant hardly speak English and gets pissed when you cant fucking understand.
@@nickcox1408 do you live in uk?
@@mohnish7653 no
I like how the son grows more and more comfortable in actually following his mother around. I just think it's sweet that on 2:45 he is putting his words to defend her advice to the stuck-up doctor, and also helps her putting the body on the gurney.
2:45 "I thought erythromycin might make him a touch less dead" Kitty said it in the most cheerful yet just do as i say tone a perfect balance
That doctor got his MD out of a Happy Meal.
Kelso: Wait, they can do that?
No crackerjack box is where he got it
MoshKing This was back when faking credentials was a lot easier so who knows what this character’s backstory is.
Uni of American Samoa
Go land crabs!
I remember reading there’s still a disconnect between doctors and nurses and why it’s sometimes hard when they work together (usually ego/arrogance getting in the way)
Kitty is a strong woman for being a nurse.
Well, given what nurses do, I'm pretty sure some physical strength is necessary.
Jasmine Bautista I know, I mean, how crushing must it be to deal with death like that on a normal basis. I mean, she had to get passed the death and move on and that was abbot upsetting when you think about it.
Kitty was strong because she was keeping everything together. Until Topher Grace went douche-mode and jumped ship to become a big time movie actor.
Ian-Devon Lewis which didn’t happen. Ashton Kutcher is worth like 150+mil and Topher is only worth 20mil. Sad.
Will RC by that logic what are you worth
For all those who work at a medical center or a hospital. That's exactly how you deal with your day. Loud music ( and a cigar). But Mrs Forman is the best.
What a depressing existence.
depressing yea but sure it's hero job
EmptyMan000 not depressing. tiresome but rewarding. for every death there's many more cured patients walking out the door and getting back to their lives.
You got it. Worked as a Nurse then an OT for nearly 40 years, and the ending of this vid really does describe how you keep going. Remember when I used to take non-hospital friends to the Hospital Social Club when there were gigs on and they could not get over how people were letting their hair down and having a good time ("This is amazing, i havnt had this good a time since i was a teenager" 38 year old engineer) ... those people had a working life that was intrinsically rewarding but difficult and needed balance, and this was the good time that provided some of that counterweight.
That and extreme dark sarcasm
Kitty lives her life the way my grandma says;
-work is work
-home is home
-they shouldn't be mixed
I partially agree and partially disagree because venting how life is going on at home can be at times healthy and sometimes your coworkers can become like family after a while. However gossiping about people's personal life is crossing the line.
@@tierefuerimmer9635
I get where you’re coming from
When I come home from work (if my uncle isn’t on one of his rants again…) I’ll tell my family how work was
And at work I can talk to my coworkers about issues at home before my shift or on our breaks
My Mom did it the same as Kitty. I only saw her cry once because she didn't know I was home from work. It was a baby who was only 4 months old.
I love how Eric remembers his mother talking about Mr. Anderson at dinner, and his reaction to how much she knows about him and how she will miss him and then says the comment about making dinner. You can see how much he is understanding and appreciating his mother more, all this extra context placed upon what he previously knew and perceived about his mother, that all she did and experience was the home he knew, and all he is going through himself yet his mother is always there for him. I remember feeling like everything happening to me when I was a teenager were the biggest things ever, yet I always had my parents and brothers to rely on. Well, this scene shows so immaculately that they all have their own lives they live yet still show up for the ones they love. This scene, this entire show, has helped me see more sides to life and relationships of all kinds and how to be more empathetic to the loved ones around me.
I laughed when eric passed out at the birth scene
Gunnar Pfefferkorn just at that part huh?
Can you blame him?
@@linkslayer15 i guess so 😄
Not sure what sex ed was like back then, but he probably never saw _The Miracle of Life_ . No internet to just "look it up for yourself".
I heard from a doctor that partners to the parent giving birth often pass out and they have personnel prepared to take care of them too lol
i'm sure whatever happened to mr. anderson was the doctor's fault
no doubt
He lost some blood
assassintwinat8 .!.
It was that blood sample, they took too much blood out of him. ;)
I would agree. It was the Penicillin. :)
This show has the most accurate portal of nurses that I've ever seen... and I work in a hospital!
Emily Hawley As a janitor?
sash A Fuck off, dickhead.
portrayal not portal.
Whdt about nurse eat their young
All kidding aside, lets have a shout out to all the nurses, doctors and service men/women, be it local or foreign, for putting your lives in danger and saving lives. My mom was a head nurse and she saved many lives. They are not thanked enough. Love ya mom
My mom is a nurse. A paediatric nurse. She once had to pick me up from dance class and the first thing she said when I left the room was “My baby is dying.” This baby she had been taking care of for months. I’d seen pictures of her and heard so much about her. My heart absolutely broke for her. Any nurse, especially those who are moms, are really some of the strongest people you’ll ever meet
I get it, my niece is a NICU Nurse so she helps tiny premature babies. She's just 21, still in Nursing School, but sometimes there are babies that scream for hours. Then, she walks in, they start to calm, she picks them up and they stop crying and fall asleep. She has a special gift and loves those babies so much!
"You're hurting me!"
"You don't know what pain is!!!"
😂😂😂😂
Okay
That's how she deals with it. Nurses are incredible. They saved me the last time I was in the hospital
solfeggietto Not all nurses. Some places they run the places like a prison and yell at everyone.
Pardon Me In most cases that is because there is so little money and personal for them to work right. Sometimes nurse have to work in really bad environments while the world outside of healthcare is just ignoring how bad the healthcare situation is locally. Believe me, when you are doing a shift with another nurse while it should've actually been 5 nurses doing a shift, it's really hard to stay nice, not stressed out, and hasty. It sucks to want to give more care than you can time wise.
@@TheLoonu theres a difference between being stressed and being abusive. There is never any excuse for being abusive. A nurse i had, despite me telling her i had an eating disorder, not only purposely triggered it but encouraged it so that i would fit into the bmi requirements when my stomach was visibly flat.
Another nurse screamed at me to shut up and stop crying when i was having a panic attack brought on by ptsd and sensory overload due to my autism and when i tried to explain that she said i dont care, be quiet.
Another nurse not only hit a nerve when drawing blood (a thing that hasnt happened before or since, despite weekly blood draws, due to me having very clear and prominent veins, never saw her again either) she repeatedly stirred around inside my arm and pulled out fully and inserted the same needle, repeatedly. I still have sensory issues and pain in my arm due to it.
Not everyone is nice no matter how defensive of your profession you feel and defending the people who do this type of shit only serves to not only invalidate victims of medical abuse but also to make those victims not trust healthcare at all.
If you dont know what a person has gone through then who are you to deem it as non damaging and that the nurse probably just had "a bad day"
The commenter you responded to was obviously speaking from personal trauma and you tried to, without inquiring further, make it look like theyre overexaggerating.
Your words have power and you have used that power carelessly. If you really do care for people then maybe dont call victims liars without hearing them out, sheesh.
For the older written record of nurses running hospitals like a prison, look up nellie bly and how she was treated less than 200 years ago and then look up testimonies from recent times and see the heartbreaking similarities.
Be a better person
Showed once again Kitty was the strongest character on the show
Yup! That’s exactly how we cope. We see a babies being born and we see patients die, all in the same day. Then, we have to decompress on our way home so we don’t bring our work into our homes. It’s a profession that‘s stressful but it’s very rewarding. I wouldn’t have it any other way. 😊
But what if you get attached to the patient or they were expected to live?
You learn to compartmentalize. It's like with teaching. I see dozens of kids come through with crap home lives. Victims of borderline abuse but because it's not quite, there's nothing I can do. Parents just do the minimum. You love each and do your best to help while they are in your class but if you worry about them too much you will become depressed and quit the field. Some things you can't control. Your job is to provide the best service you can while you have them. But sometimes you see a past student in the news for some mess and feel sad. You called it years ago but nothing you could do.
But sometimes there are some incidents which haunt you for a long time. Three years ago, I was on my Casualty rotation, there was this big gas explosion in the city. I saw a lot of deaths and injuries that day and I never got it out of my system.
I've heard most nurses are freaks , In the good way
Thank you... society really needs people like you...
This is why Kitty is one of the best tv moms. She not only took great care of Eric, treated his friends like her own kids (even letting Hyde live with them) her whole job also revolved around taking care of others and she genuinely enjoyed doing all of it.
"A touch less dead" Amazing quote.
"I know when I go to the hospital, I like to not die" Another amazing quote.
You know what I like most about this episode about how much of a smartass kitty is and how sarcastic she can really be.
No wonder Eric's a smartass 😂
She needs that sense of humor given her occupation
Eric:Ow mam you're hurting me
woman:you don't know what pain is
Eric:ok
both scream and Eric faints
lmao I'm so dead
Not as dead as Mr. Anderson.
I Always see you in that 70s show videos !
I think that sounds familiar but couldn't be sure
I’ve heard a lot of men faint seeing a baby delivered
I love his immediate acceptance like, you are correct ma'am
As a SICU nurse in NYC getting my ass handed to me daily, nightly, and ever so rightly, I can confirm this is very true. Coding one guy then turning around to give another his dinner. And the end scene is perfect, not a nurse out there that doesnt go home blasting something
I feel extremely bad for nurses in major cities like New York because it just seems like a living nightmare for them every shift. I can understand this a bit because I have a friend named Wendy and she once worked as a surgical nurse at St. Anthony's Medical Center in Columbus, OH. Columbus is the biggest city in Ohio in addition to being the state capital.
The ending was creepy as can be: that photograph with someone else's mouth superimposed and singing the song. Yeesh!
I think it was wrong of Eric to make that comment to her mother's boss.
@@leonardo899 well it is a tv show and 2. It is exactly something the character of Eric would do 3. at a hospital the doctor while he is higher up the food chain is not the boss of the nurses. They work for the hospital and have their own nursing supervisors etc. Its different in a doctors private office when they hire a nurse but in hospitals the nurses don't answer directly to the doctors, except when it comes to the treatment of the patients.
@@leonardo899 the Doctors don’t cut our pay checks, they are not God. Some just have a God complex. I’ll stand up for myself any day. I once received an order and after I read it I said, “ if I do that Doctor I’ll kill him.’’You should have seen the heads snap when I said that! Loved it!
3:31 the way she says "I'm gonna miss him" hurts alot tbh,,,
I respect every nurse I meet because of the nurse that took care of my grandma when she had her stroke. She paid attention to the medications that would give her bad side effects and did everything to avoid them and find alternatives. The doctor almost prescribed a medication that would give my grandma diarrhea and she jumped right in and said no and explained why. He got irritated at her for questioning him in front his patients but when he left, my mom and I thanked her profusely.
It was around Christmas when this happened and I felt really grateful so I made homemade assorted cookies and put them in cookie tins that I wrapped with ribbon. When we went to give them to her she was so surprised. She's used to people not really showing appreciation. But her face lit up and I'll never forget how she helped.
She is the kind of Nurse I want to be once I finish my degree (I just started). And you were also so sweet and I wish there were more people who understand that nurses aren't crap, like you ^^
@MrHoppers002 Possibly it comes down to the slightly different focus on what the two jobs entail. A doctor's primary job is to cure an illness or, in cases of a chronic disease, minimize the damage to the patient. A nurse's primary job is to help the patient heal from, or manage, their illness. Usually this is done by carrying out the doctor's orders but sometimes, as in the original comment, we get a doctor who wants to use the (presumably) most effective medicine to treat the illness clash with a nurse who knows the unwanted side effects of said medication is going to undermine the patient's overall healing process. Or basically- doctors fight the illness, nurses help the sick.
The way Mrs. Forman is singing as she drives home is me when I'm on my way home from work. Granted my job isn't like hers, but it's nice to release the stress and be happy. :)
After my double jaw surgery, a nurse saw that I was panicking because my parents weren’t there when I woke up. (They were at home getting ready to see me) the nurse sat down on my bed, held me close and sang me a lullaby to calm me down. It worked. I’m so thankful for that nurse and all the work nurses do.
This is actually a nice piece about how hard nurses work. They truly are hero’s of the modern world, thank you to all nurses
I loved the way Topher delivered the line "I know when I go to the hospital, I like to not die!". Kitty was a force to be reckoned with! Without her that doctor would probably face countless malpractice suits.
This was such a meaningful ending to such a good show.
Netherwolf6100 The show went on for several more seasons. This was just one episode. Get Netflix and binge watch it.
Dude I'm aware. I meant the ending to the episode and saying that the entire show is good. Well everything but the final season tho when Eric and Kelso came back that was cool.
Upon rewatching it I just pretend the final season never happened
I love how Eric was really concerned about his mom it really showed how much he love her.
Im an ER nurse. N my husband is a doctor. We rarely see each other. Sometimes even up to 72hours. Thats just how busy our work is. Respect to all medical personnel out there. Especially the nurses.
Why would marry someone you rarely ever see? I mean you know the job and the work schedules, it's not like you didn't expect this.
@@EmptyMan000 love?
@@EmptyMan000 The medical field is infamous for long hours so even if your S.O. wasn't in the field, you wouldn't seem them as much anyway.
My mom is a nurse, and I, a doctor.
I love and respect nurses because I know that we doctors would be so lost without them.
Yes, we do know more than them, but they beat us in care and compassion.
Doctors should definitely have care and compassion too.
"I know when I go to the hospital, I like to NOT die!" Yes, that was the right moment to say that.
My respect for Kitty grew so much more after this episode
I’m studying to become a ortho doctor. I could never talk or treat nurses like that and I swear to never ever do it and to help out as much as I can
Introduce yourself to staff. Make rounds with the primary nurse at bedside and talk to patients and ask nurses if there is anything else the patient needs. If they see you truly care for the patient, and you are professional with the staff, you will have a great working relationship
I lived with a surgeon as she went through residency. She said more than once she never would have made it through residency without the help of the Nurses
;)
It’s a simple rule: Take care of the people who take care of you. Nurses take care of patients AND doctors. Even as a layman, I know that.
How about this: WHEN you do, on a bad day, own up to it and make it right.
when you realize Kitty dealt with way more death and suffering than Red ever did in both wars he fought in :O
Kaito Shion also child Birth twice. Seriously, women are bigger badasses than given credit for
+Jn
Well, it is only because the deaths and suffering are usually useless and do not lead to a baby or health.
But it's a bit weird to just state that being shot at a war is worse than being in labour for let's say 38 hours.
Ummmm.... no. Fighting in a war is monumentally worse than childbirth. Put yourself in a situation where people are trying to kill you constantly for months, if not years on end. Constant gunfire, never knowing if one of those bullets is going to hit you. Artillery fire that goes on for days on end, and one single round could land on or near you and that'll be it for you. If you're one of the lucky ones an explosive shell doesn't land on you'll likely have the dubious pleasure of seeing your friends, people you have trained and fought alongside for months/years blown to pieces. People you trust to have your back and rely upon to survive. There one moment, gone the next. All happening in the middle of winter, snow everywhere but you and your fellow soldiers have to just hunker down, soaked and frozen in a foxhole, unable to start a fire to keep warm as the enemy might spot it and fucking kill you because you gave away your position.
Lol, 38 hours of pain. Try a lifetime for a lot of the people who go to war. Those who survives bombs or shells going off are frequently in pain for the rest of their lives and left physically disabled. Potentially minus limbs they were previously rather attached to. Covered in scar tissue from burns that never really stop hurting. Oh, and all of the above frequently leads people to lose their fucking minds. Shell shock, or as we call it these days PTSD? Those who go through war often suffer from a lifetime of psychological problems as a result of their experiences in war. And to make it even better, it may not have even been your choice to go! You may have been conscripted on pain of imprisonment and forced to fight in said war as countless people have throughout history. Most women CHOOSE to have children,
But no, 38 hours of pain (likely with an epidural) surrounded by medical professionals and family that ends with you taking your newborn child back to your nice safe home. Totally worse than having to go to war.
+Norfookian
I wasn't talking about epidurals ofcourse. And I believe we were solemny talking about pain and not about trauma. Because I just said that ofcourse the baby-aspect changes that.
Ofcourse women get postnatal depression and psychosis as well, because not everyone has the warm family you're suggesting.
But why on earth is this discussion taking such a dark turn? It was óne person that suggested it JEESH.
WE STARTED on the comparison with loving people and seeing them die each day, failing to be able to help them.
THAT is what the comparison was, people.
Kidney stones are worse than childbirth. Bullets to the legs are worse than childbirth. Cutting your hand off is (probably) worse than childbirth.
However, I assume that childbirth is worse than breaking a bone. And I hear your pelvis actually breaks in many situations.
The day Eric learned his sweet, timid, innocent little mother is actually a badass
That singing in the car reminds me of my Dad. He’s not in the medical field but he is a cameraman for the news and he’s seen a lot of bad things but he copes with it well. Once after a bad fire in an apartment building that had a lot of fatalities he came home and replaced every smoke alarm in the house. Another time he was in the basement of a murderer who killed a girl about my age out riding her bike. The next time I wanted to ride my bike to the local library he told me he was driving me and waited about an hour while I got my books and did some reading off of my fines. We’ve just learned not to question why he does some of the things he does.
Your Dad is just afraid is all. He hasn't coped with anything, he projected his own fears into his parenting.
As a nurse, I really am thankful for the writers and producers to make kitty such a cool nurse character.
I personally, to cope after stress, like to turn on the volume of my car loud with music I enjoy.
I love her. 💗
I wish I had a mom like Mrs. Foreman.
be thankful for the mother you have i dont know her and i could be mistaken but she did all she could too get u where u are now
Javier Torres Damn she failed. Lmao
That really hurts son.
-from your Mom
I have a mom like Mrs. Foreman
My mom was more like Midge unfortunately 🤣
Kitty has always been one of my favorite characters because she reminds me of how my mom is. And seriously, nurses are superheroes. Nurses have always treated me so well, they're caring and compassionate and they bust their asses.
My mum is a nurse and my dad is a doctor, the amount of fights I have to listen to
Another reason not to marry someone with the same profession or field of work. Too many differing opinions on how things should go at work
@@EmptyMan000 not the issue
@@Isolde.rebecca The incessant arguing clearly is (or was)
@@EmptyMan000 it’s the personalities. My dad thinks he’s better than my mom. But they don’t argue about medical issues. My mom wouldn’t claim to know more
Best RN ever, she reminds me of so many of the O.R. Nurses I’ve worked with over the years! Doing the hard stuff with a brain in their head, a smile on their face and the best sense of humor to deal with it all!
A friend of mine is a nurse and I have a little more respect for what she does.
A little more? Right, you don't want to be too generous on respect cause you may run out of it!
It's an expression, that she had respect for what her friend does, and now it's even more.
I like a woman in uniform especially if she is a beautiful nurse 😉
coolrank12 that literally has nothing to do with what she wrote, though it’s a nice comment 😂😂
Genni G Fox just a little??
I am a nurse who works in a hospital. I can say that the scene when she drives home is 1000000% accurate! Except I usually jam to Green Day or The Killers.
"I have some bad news!"
... nurse turns page on clipboard...
"Oh! I have some _good_ news!" 😆🤦🏻♀️
#Honornurses
There's a lot of bad doctors and residents who hold that level of arrogance and smugness. I had to stop a number of bad decisions and go over heads about it to ensure patients stayed safe. In the end, nurses are the front line who protect patients from the follies of pride.
Nurses are a different bread. I am so greatfull for each and every one of you!!!!
Pumpernickel?
They are the Focaccias in a Wonder Bread industry
Watching this scene again as an adult, who recently graduated nursing school, hits a WHOLE different way 👌😂❤
HIGHER WAGES FOR NURSES!! (My wonderful sister is a nurse.)
I have so much fucking respect for nurses though. They put up with so much crap not just from patients but the families and the doctors like you great people thank you for not killing me and putting up with annoying patients.
I've worked in a class 1 trauma hospital for 35 years. 3 more to go.
It's not for everyone. You either learn and accept the circle of life fact quickly or lose your mind and ability to help those in need.
We keep and hold the hope and fight for the joy of life over death at all cost.
Reminds me of when my mom was in hospital, recovering from swine flu, when a doctor came to take her away for someone else's operation.
He wouldn't accept that it was a mistake either, didn't appreciate her holding the whole thing up. She had to call in a nurse to confirm that she wasn't scheduled for any operation.
I don't think that is uncommon I know someone else that happened to.
Eric gained a whole new respect for Kitty.
“Ow ma’am you’re hurting me!”
“You don’t know what pain is!”
“Okay.”
I love how they included Kitty's disclosure a patient's name, and talking about their life outside the medical setting with her family. It really keeps with the period before HIPAA was enacted.
HIPAA?
@@music79075 in nursing, HIPPA is a law that protects the patient's health information from being leaked
As if that doesn't happen nowadays all the time and is a problem at all. People need to talk about shit, let it out, so to speak. What kitty told eric in that clip was not at all what HIPPA was enacted to prevent.
@@music79075 -HIPAA
H - Health
I - Insurance
P - Portability and
A - Accountability
A - Act
It helps insure patient information stays private. Health professionals are forbidden to just go around talking about our patients’ conditions. We could lose our jobs, and could even be sued.
@@music79075 say you have a patient. You aren't allowed to talk about any of their information publicly. (Let's call the hypothetical patient mr anderson) if Mr Anderson had a foot amputated from a car crash you are not allowed to talk about it technically. If it's a work buddy you usually will find ways to talk about it without breaking HIPPA. So you'll leave out all the personal information like his name being Mr Anderson, things like his age, where he lives if you somehow got access to that. You would probably just say hey did you hear about the guy that had his foot amputated
I love nurses. They play a great role in teaching newbie doctors and nurses. Terribly underappreciated.
Forget the entire ward, without Kitty and the other nurses I’d say the entire hospital would collapse.
Wow, they nailed it! Except now when doctors treat us like that, we get to watch them respectfully engage with the male nurses.
m8trxd ugh that's such crap. fuckin double standards
Preach it.
m8trxd That's bs in my experience
m8trxd that is bullshit in my experience, I never get treated better than my colleagues. And more often than not I get sent if there is any heavy lifting to do.
In my experience my male colleagues get treated worse.
Eric passing out is me two years ago when my first and only child was born. Lol
Seth Winters Had three and my husband was fine..he stayed at the head end..lol
Ann Mitchell does he want a cookie?
Joeyblondewolf2 😂😂
After every day like that at work @ 3:55 - that's how I do it. Loud music and car dancing.
This is one of the best episodes because it makes Kitty human , incredible at her job and shows the world how valuable a nurse is.
When I was a kid, this scene changed my view on nurses. I like to believe I respect them them more because of this.
from the title I can say: HOLY FUDGING YES! My doctor had the wrong file, therefore the wrong medication for me.. TWICE! the nurse had to point it out.. TWICE
Kitty is the cutest and most hilarious tv mom ever.
My mother was a nurse (in France) and this is barely a caricature. I went to work with her once and she catches doctors making mistakes all the time...
As someone who works in a hospital, I can vouch this as an accurate depiction of the relationship many doctors have with their nurses. Most docs are good guys, but very much the definition of 'idiot savants.' Many are lucky to have brilliant nurses to catch them for stuff like we see here.
This clip aged well…so very well. Shout out to all the medical health workers. Especially those who care about doing the right thing and paying attention to their patients ❤️