A word of caution, never use a liquid that does not show the list of ingredients on the container or with the package. Do not make your own concoction. If ingredients are listed, use the Materials Safety Data Sheet to determine the chemicals. Then use the PVC and Plasticizer Chemical Compatability Chart to see their affectation on records or your health. Many machines use rubber and neoprene gaskets, Check the Chemical compatability with the rubber and neoprene compatability charts. Many machines fail prematurely. If the Plasticizer or PVC of the record has been affected and where the record is played more than once per day per side, damage may occur which one will hear as a crackle. A shiny record does not indicate a clean or restored record. In any process one should be able to remove first films left over from prior cleaning processes, then the film where many surface scratches reside on the record caused by outgassing of the plasticizer while in the record's sleeve for dozens of years. Finally one then should look at removing the release agent where it while cooling sees dust and contaminants land on the cooling record being fused in, cause of those nasty pops that we hear in new records. Many shiny records actually see your needle gouge out the film creating the look of a shiny record. Dull records of provenance and origin unknown are not indicative of poor sound or a less than perfect auditory experience. One should wet clean the needle every few plays as many cleaning processes leave residues equating a shiny record. Inadvertently the needle does the cleaning of some of these cleaning solution residues.
Holy crap, I didn't know these crazy vacuum things existed. I need a bigger house LOL 😂 Also watching you, I'm a little more comfortable being more firm with my cleanings. I tend to be way too gentle, I think.
I own the MW1 machine. It’s a great machine and I usually use the AIVS one step formula and sometimes follow up with ultrasonic. I like to dry brush used records initially to pull up what I can before I go to wet cleaning. It seems to get a lot out of the grooves. Your videos are well done with many shots and I found myself wondering. What will he do next?! Fun channel.
After such a thorough and comprehensive manual cleaning process, do you notice ANY visible residue in the water of the Klaudio machine after cleaning multiple records? By the way, very cool channel.
Great question and no, I have found no vinyl residue in the water tank of the Klaudio. Lots of dirt debris of course, but no vinyl bits. To test this, we clean a brightly colored record many, many times. If the UL machine was damaging the record, it was not visible even after passing the dirty water through a coffee filter.
Well, I’m convinced that the Klaudio machine is the finest ultrasonic record cleaner out there. With your very comprehensive and thorough pre-cleaning process, I can’t imagine records getting any cleaner. Now, if I could only afford a Klaudio machine. 😄
In this case, the liquid from AIVS (Audio Intelligence Vinyl Solutions) is just pure water, so no surfactant. A pure water step is intended to remove any fluid and/or surfactant that remains from the RCF process. One last note: We are big fans of AIVS #15, which is a great all around RCF. It has both a standard RCF and an enzymatic formula mixed together. It also has just the right amount of surfactant so the fluid spreads evenly across the vinyl's surface. Great stuff. But, in this video, it's just pure water from AIVS.
@@LetsCleanaRecord do you recommend an enzyme fluid ? Will I notice a difference? I drop all of my records into a cheap ultrasonic tank that I bought for $250. Wondering if I’d see an additional improvement (especially for finger prints). Thanks so much for these videos!
@@slistone1940 An enzymatic soak is great for very old dirt and any potential mold. It won't do much for fingerprints, but a good RCF will get all kinds of oils off the vinyl.
Many enzyme solutions degrade PVC. Check the ingredients list against the pvc and plasticizer chemical compatability chart before using any liquid. No ingredients listed or provided. Do not use! @@LetsCleanaRecord
For those who don’t clean their records or their stylus, shame on you! A vinyl collection is an investment and deserves to be clean and shown the love it deserves. It is a laziness issue. You can’t get the most from your investment if you don’t put an effort in towards it. S, GD, get off your ass and jam as the line goes in the Funkadelic song!
this is akin to psychological disorder, audiophiles buy equipment and turn it into a dick measuring contest as to who can pick up more and more detail in the music and turning it into a fetish and addiction.
It depends on the process, but I guess I am one of those that enjoys the ritual. I would say a minimum of ten minutes, up to maybe 30 for a really deep clean?
How about show a microscopic view atleast after the cleaning process or maybe after each step. Show us a microscopic of what was removed from the record during the cleaning process so we can flip back and compare to what the original condition. Sliding the record in and out of a plastic sleeve creates static electricity and when you slide it out of the sleeve, particulate in the air is immediately drawn to the record, nullifying the cleaning you did.
A word of caution, never use a liquid that does not show the list of ingredients on the container or with the package.
Do not make your own concoction.
If ingredients are listed, use the Materials Safety Data Sheet to determine the chemicals.
Then use the PVC and Plasticizer Chemical Compatability Chart to see their affectation on records or your health.
Many machines use rubber and neoprene gaskets, Check the Chemical compatability with the rubber and neoprene compatability charts. Many machines fail prematurely.
If the Plasticizer or PVC of the record has been affected and where the record is played more than once per day per side, damage may occur which one will hear as a crackle.
A shiny record does not indicate a clean or restored record.
In any process one should be able to remove first films left over from prior cleaning processes, then the film where many surface scratches reside on the record caused by outgassing of the plasticizer while in the record's sleeve for dozens of years. Finally one then should look at removing the release agent where it while cooling sees dust and contaminants land on the cooling record being fused in, cause of those nasty pops that we hear in new records.
Many shiny records actually see your needle gouge out the film creating the look of a shiny record. Dull records of provenance and origin unknown are not indicative of poor sound or a less than perfect auditory experience.
One should wet clean the needle every few plays as many cleaning processes leave residues equating a shiny record.
Inadvertently the needle does the cleaning of some of these cleaning solution residues.
Love the Disc Doctor!
Holy crap, I didn't know these crazy vacuum things existed. I need a bigger house LOL 😂
Also watching you, I'm a little more comfortable being more firm with my cleanings. I tend to be way too gentle, I think.
I own the MW1 machine. It’s a great machine and I usually use the AIVS one step formula and sometimes follow up with ultrasonic. I like to dry brush used records initially to pull up what I can before I go to wet cleaning. It seems to get a lot out of the grooves. Your videos are well done with many shots and I found myself wondering. What will he do next?! Fun channel.
Really cool channel!
After such a thorough and comprehensive manual cleaning process, do you notice ANY visible residue in the water of the Klaudio machine after cleaning multiple records? By the way, very cool channel.
Great question and no, I have found no vinyl residue in the water tank of the Klaudio. Lots of dirt debris of course, but no vinyl bits. To test this, we clean a brightly colored record many, many times. If the UL machine was damaging the record, it was not visible even after passing the dirty water through a coffee filter.
After seeing this I found a mono copy of this record and I bought it. Now waiting patiently for it to arrive
Well, I’m convinced that the Klaudio machine is the finest ultrasonic record cleaner out there. With your very comprehensive and thorough pre-cleaning process, I can’t imagine records getting any cleaner. Now, if I could only afford a Klaudio machine. 😄
What does the AVS liquid do? Is it also a surfactant?
In this case, the liquid from AIVS (Audio Intelligence Vinyl Solutions) is just pure water, so no surfactant. A pure water step is intended to remove any fluid and/or surfactant that remains from the RCF process. One last note: We are big fans of AIVS #15, which is a great all around RCF. It has both a standard RCF and an enzymatic formula mixed together. It also has just the right amount of surfactant so the fluid spreads evenly across the vinyl's surface. Great stuff. But, in this video, it's just pure water from AIVS.
@@LetsCleanaRecord do you recommend an enzyme fluid ? Will I notice a difference? I drop all of my records into a cheap ultrasonic tank that I bought for $250. Wondering if I’d see an additional improvement (especially for finger prints). Thanks so much for these videos!
@@slistone1940 An enzymatic soak is great for very old dirt and any potential mold. It won't do much for fingerprints, but a good RCF will get all kinds of oils off the vinyl.
Many enzyme solutions degrade PVC. Check the ingredients list against the pvc and plasticizer chemical compatability chart before using any liquid. No ingredients listed or provided. Do not use!
@@LetsCleanaRecord
I collect but have never cleaned? Thank you what is wrong with me! I subscribed
How do the record doctor brushes compare to mofi ones?
We're working on a MoFi brush and RCF review. Stay tuned!
For those who don’t clean their records or their stylus, shame on you! A vinyl collection is an investment and deserves to be clean and shown the love it deserves. It is a laziness issue. You can’t get the most from your investment if you don’t put an effort in towards it. S, GD, get off your ass and jam as the line goes in the Funkadelic song!
this is akin to psychological disorder, audiophiles buy equipment and turn it into a dick measuring contest as to who can pick up more and more detail in the music and turning it into a fetish and addiction.
How long does it take to clean one?
Longer than it takes to play it.
It depends on the process, but I guess I am one of those that enjoys the ritual. I would say a minimum of ten minutes, up to maybe 30 for a really deep clean?
How about show a microscopic view atleast after the cleaning process or maybe after each step. Show us a microscopic of what was removed from the record during the cleaning process so we can flip back and compare to what the original condition. Sliding the record in and out of a plastic sleeve creates static electricity and when you slide it out of the sleeve, particulate in the air is immediately drawn to the record, nullifying the cleaning you did.
He did show before and after.