Timestamp Time! (Also happy belated Birthday, Metal!) - Total Boba Fett Snipes: 13 Note: I will be doing the Superchats but I thought I should get this portion out before too long. They’ll be in this thread when they’re done. Also once again, they're about 10 seconds behind. 0:06:30 - MauLer: I’m going to guess this is a nine hour video (lmao)/The blurbs start 0:23:23 - The rules of the synopsis (Also Trungo dies ☹) -EPISODE 1- 0:25:02 - Expectations for Fringy and MauLer were subverted - on the bridge 0:27:33 - The facial animation/It’s nice to see new 3D animated styles/They’re using the facial animations to show rather than tell 0:29:08 - MauLer reads out the song Powder sings on the bridge 0:30:46 - Boba Fett snipe/Who here has played League?/You don’t need to play the game to watch the show 0:36:29 - What the enforcers and Topside mean to Vi/This opening shakes off preconceived notions of what the League of Legends Netflix show is going to be very quickly/“You’re probably wondering how I got here”-Vi, probably 0:39:38 - The most controversial topic in the entire series (“Enemy”)/The songs in general/The opening’s visual symbolism/References to LoL/Fortiche’s advantage 0:53:37 - More video game adaptations (be afraid)/Halo’s TV show 1:01:30 - What was the budget for Arcane? 1:04:40 - “It’s called the *Book* of Boba Fett-books have chapters” (That’s not how books work) 1:05:32 - The episode begins/How the animation is done/Establish character through jumping from roof to roof 1:11:38 - The kids break into the Penthouse/Costume design/Claggor makes sure Powder gets onto the balcony safely/Facial expressions and benefits of animation/Powder is fascinated by the technology and able to identify it 1:17:38 - The kids find the hexcrystal/Powder finds a sandwich!😊/Maybe there’s more sandwiches in this chest-no just more hexcrystals☹ 1:21:49 - Oh no! The penthouse owner is coming back!/Powder picks up several hexcrystals but unfortunately one falls out and cause an explosion/Vi checks to make sure everyone is okay/Small animation touches 1:23:51 - The kids need to run away from enforcers/Character being shown from how they run away/They go down a trash compactor like in Star Wars and they escape 1:30:15 - It’s someone’s fault/Match cuts/The local bullies spot them/More character work: Claggor puts himself in front of Vi, Mylo is curious, and Powder is very worried/Powder is the support (Same) 1:33:09 - “Just a taste” (FIGHT!)/Jay hates Vi because she’s a woman/The fight is not clean and looks like they’re actually getting hurt. *And* they’re getting hurt on both sides/Vi actually gets hurt/Claggor is taking on 2 at once/Powder runs away, Mylo is just barely keeping up, Vi looks like she’s loosing for a second but pulls through 1:39:36 - Claggor is a chad and uses the epic pocket sand move/Mylo is losing his fight but Vi comes in with a Brie Larson/They’ve won but Deckard pulls out a knife and Vi T-poses 1:42:38 - Meanwhile Powder is running away/Powder is using a pipe bomb and those implications/Powder lip bites/The bomb doesn’t work so she throws the loot 1:46:36 - They go back to the lanes while arguing because Powder jinxes every job/“I’m surrounded by water” 1:52:05 - Introduction to the Undercity/Runeterra is a cringe name/The Undercity and Topside are visually distinctive/Discussion of “Playground”/The Pleasure House 2:00:49 - Underappreciated shot: Claggor looking at Powder 2:02:08 - The reverse of a neckbeard refused to pay Huck full price/Don’t mess with the bartender/Tobacco/The introduction of Vander 2:12:24 - Drinker arrives 2:15:20 - Vander vs Huck’s demeanor/Vander sees the kids come in the door, he knows that they had something to do with the explosion/Vi: “How did you get so comfortable living in someone else’s shadow?”/Vander and Vi chat/Vander is a good dad/Vander is speaking to a younger version of himself/Really great example of subtext and achieving more than one thing with dialogue 2:24:21 - Vander collects Claggor to go to Benzo’s and Powder realizes that she has the hexcrystals/Powder catches the worst part of the conservations/Facial expressions - no mocap but references/Micromovements of the eyes/Annoying overhearing trope is not terrible in this 2:32:32 - If you keep any *eye* on it, you see the micro eye movements/They’re not overpraising the show also everything else is shit/3-D animation has improved substantially 2:34:58 - Vander is at Benzo’s shop/Ekko’s working on the clock(I’m sure that doesn’t mean anything😊)/A guy came into Benzo’s shop, didn’t even haggle and so Ekko followed him/Vander: “There are worst things than enforcers” as he holds his arm/Claggor: “We wouldn’t be here if Vi hadn’t kicked their asses.” (Claggor is a humble Chad) 2:39:07 - The enforcers Grayson and Marcus arrive at Benzo’s shop/Marcus vs Grayson and how indictive it is at the world of large/Vander and Grayson have a chat with a funny Benzo expression 2:48:06 - Back to Powder and Vi/Also Ekko is listening in and there’s some masks in the background/Vi tells Powder she doesn’t have to be a fighter and that doesn’t help/Vi takes Powder to the rooftop to explain that everyone has bad days/Powder shows Vi the hexcrystals 2:52:36 - Introducing Silco/All the details of the lair/Who’s standing in the background?/Is Silco in the games?/Every Frame is a Painting/Feeding a drug to a rat and it fucks up a cat
-EPISODE 2- 3:06:48 - Episode 2 begins with a POV of the penthouse owner/Where have Jayce and Cait come from?/Vi checks on Jayce to make sure he’s okay 3:09:20 - Jayce’s flashback/Jayce’s mom’s frostbite/Someone turns up to save them with magic/What the fuck is this?!?!/Arcane shows that Jayce is invested in miagc 3:15:11 - Drinker’s opinion on the theme 3:16:22 - Explosion has consequences for Topside /There’s a snooty guy in the background who’s curious about all this stuff/It makes sense that Viktor doesn’t say his name/It’s concluded that Jayce has to go to prison/They characterize the “rich guy”/Everyone in this show has good and bad aspects to them 3:21:34 - Introduction to Heimerdinger and it’s visuals/Even the silly looking character has deep, complex scenes/“Curious, we imprison the body but let the mind be free.”/Heimerdinger advises Jayce to own your mistakes and to not mention magic/Negative reaction to magic 3:27:28 - Back to the kids who are laying low and working out/An animator did three years of boxing to get Vi’s movements down (Fucking legend!)/The 2-D animations/The micromovements and the leaderboard/The visuals of Powder’s shooting game/It’s a little silly that Powder hits every shot/The fuck off expression (Pow-Pow’s so cute!) 3:32:22 - The enforcers are roughing up someone outside and then he gets thrown through the window/Contrived bad luck that it just happened to be right where the kids are/Mylo tries to shoot them with the toy gun and then Vi knocks them the fuck out/Weirdest moment of cause and effect/Marcus pulls out a gun on the kids but doesn’t have a good shot/The crew is really stretching it? 3:37:54 - Match cut to the introduction of Mel Medarda/“Richest person in Piltover but the poorest Medarda” line is actually good/Is there anything happening in the city? And she picks up a *child’s toy*/Mel’s design is fantastic 3:41:05 - Introduction to Caitlyn Kiramman and the visuals of them/They’re talking about the fate of Jayce/Cut to the Last Drop where tensions are rising/Vander’s trying to keep them all calm but this woman is having not of it/Signifies a change in Vander’s ability to lead the undercity/The kids aren’t worried about this and Powder is even wanting to nail them/Ekko looks incredibly sus/Powder pokes out from the side (So cute!)/Ekko’s tells them about the deal 3:45:33 - Mel gives one of the councilmembers the child’s toy/Salo is eating nuts and tries to use it as a gift…it fails/Heimerdinger is happy to see Jayce/Writing problem solving to get the outcome they want (I know, crazy!)/Jayce is pushed to say “I’m making magic!” without contrives/How infinitely frustrating it is that he had it under control but some idiots broke into his house and fucked with it/Heimerdinger is angry /Chat: “I found Heimerdinger frustrating because he had a habit of saying ‘This is very bad, don’t do it’ but doesn’t elaborate at all.”/The magic is never *really* understood 3:54:36 - After Jayce lashes out, he loses the leverage so his mom (Ximenia) pleads for his life. The council votes in favor of instead of exiling him to ban him from the Academy/Frost bite/Mel has sway over the council/Is the Council politics too subtle or poorly communicated? 3:58:09 - Marcus meets with Silco/Silco has loads of great lines/“Silco is overrated”, in that moment MauLer turned into the Man of Steal 3:59:09 - Back to Jayce, distraught over the outcome/Little Jayce holding a hammer/Ximenia’s defense of Jayce was that he’s crazy/Both Jayce and Ximenia have understandable POVs in this conflict/If Ximenia doesn’t believe in him then he would find someone who will 4:00:58 - Cut to-for nough reason-Viktor…and Heimerdinger packing away Jayce’s research/Magic is far too dangerous in the wrong hands/The theme of the older generation who made the mistakes and are trying to reign in the younger generation but the younger generation thinks they can change the world/Back to Silco with Deckard to convince him to take the drug 4:04:06 - Jayce tries to go to the Kiramman home to get help and he’s banned/Jayce tries to explain Caitlyn’s mother but she dismisses him. Jayce is out of options/Piltover’s society is very concerned over appearances 4:05:21 - Drinker leaves 4:07:22 - The Councilors are speaking to Grayson and Marcus/The Clog Councilor (Rob) demands harsher tactics and Marcus is inspired by this/Doomer wasn’t paying attention or stroking out/Caitlyn’s main arc/Marcus goes to the Last Drop/Vander alerts the kids/Marcus is a little shit to Vander/“You weren’t always the peacekeeper”/“There’s a crime with every coin that passes through here.”/Character sitting on a chair 4:17:18 - Vi confronts Vander so it’s tine to give Vi a life lesson on the bridge 4:19:51 - Jayce’s suicide attempt/However someone interrupts/“If you’re going to change the world, you don’t ask for permission”/Viktor is quite…different in the game/It’s pain to stew in the cringe of Boba Fett/Potentially, the blossoming of a beautiful friendship 4:26:01 - Vi goes to see Powder with her old bunny/Powder made more bombs, two are full of smoke and two are full of…nails/“Powder, what makes you different, makes you strong.”/Powder picks up that something is wrong/Meanwhile Grayson is arguing with Marcus but Vander’s message is sent/Discussion of “Our Love”/Vi is giving herself up 4:32:33 - What is everyone’s favorite episode outside of episode 3?
-EPISODE 3- 4:33:37 - We open on Silco’s drowning monologue/From Silco’s perspective, Vander drowned/“It’s funny, you can a pass a lifetime without making a choice like that. For that, I thank you, old friend.”/This show has teeth meanwhile Marvel movies will never have that 4:38:51 - Vi realizes that it’s Vander and Benzo rather than the enforcers. Vander is going to sacrifice himself leaving Benzo in charge./“You have a good heart. Don’t let the world take that from you.” 4:41:17 - Then blood splatters across the window and things take a turn/Grayson has been killed/Silco arrives in a badass way/Benzo’s dies/Marcus shouts that this wasn’t party of the deal. The deals have changed (pray he doesn’t alter it further)/Blood money/Vander is knocked out/Marcus is there, powerless/Vi is horrified by these events/ 4:46:58 - On Topside, Viktor and Jayce are working together/Jayce doesn’t have anything to lose but worries about what Viktor is sacrificing/“Our hextech dream.”/It’s fun to watch Jayce and Viktor working on science stuff/Ekko let’s Vi out and saw everything, he also followed Silco to his hideout 4:50:54 - Silco and Vander have a conversation/The camera work/“For pride?” “For respect.”/Silco had the respect of all the undercity but it wasn’t enough. Vander shared Silco’s vision for the Nation of Zaun but be he betrayed Silco./Silco’s eye 4:55:18 - Fringy freaks out about goo 5:01:21 - “I was left with an understanding: The only way to defeat an enemy is to become where they fear.”/What a life to live/Vander gets put in a chair/There’s something about the music/Sevika is in the background and she’s scowling 5:03:48 - Mel catches Jayce and Viktor/“Wait. This isn’t my bedroom.”/Mel has an interest in Jayce so she distracts a guard 5:05:00 - Vi gets back/The minute she looks at Powder, she’s breaks down/Powder starts packing up but Vi doesn’t let her. This reinforces Powder’s self-doubt./Vi realizes that she might of overstepped. 5:08:29 - Trungo’s (I don’t know why Jay didn’t just search discord for Trungo’s but oh well) 5:10:10 - Camera work/Vi gives Powder a flare and to light it up if anything happens/Jayce and Viktor are working on the hexcrystal/“Are you sure this will work?” “Uhhhh…” 5:12:22 - Powder’s breakdown/She’s not just sad, she’s losing control/Powder puts together that the hexcrystals caused the explosion in the penthouse and that she can help them./Scene transfer 5:16:50 - Jay leaves 5:17:47 - Jayce and Viktor blow out a window/Vander is discovered by the kids and they all realize that it’s a trap/Silco is a villain, guys/Vi tells Mylo to pick the locks, Claggor to find an alternative exit. She will take on the thugs/Vander is the father to all his children 5:21:56 - Vi faces off against Silco’s thugs - what’s the viability?/Silco is shocked/Vi is taking advantage of dodging the first attack and knocking them out/MauLer shows off a fight scene/Having Vi be portrayed as desperately trying to win makes her more sympathetic/Sevika tries to enter the fight but Silco holds her back and lets Deckard handle it/Deckard is addicted/Vi gets knocked down and then kidney(liver?) punched 5:34:40 - “Really? After all that, now I have to fight the Hulk?”/Vander panics when she goes into the fight/Vi is incredibly lucky that she doesn’t die/Why does Silco not prevent that door being closed?/How it could have been fixed 5:42:51 - Final Jayce and Viktor scene/Mel understands the selfish motivations of the Councilors better than Heimerdinger 5:45:50 - It’s time. Powder pops two hexcrystals into her monkey bomb and one being hit with spikes on the symbols/Tense at seeing everyone doing everything/Deckard sees the monkey bomb/It doesn’t go off at first, it starts to calm down, but one last tick. 5:48:31 - The order of the explosion: Powder gets thrown off the ledge into water?/She thinks it’s the columniation of her life’s work in her perspective./The bad guys: Deckard, Sevika tackles Silco out of the way. Singed gets blasted./But what happens to our heroes?/Back to Powder falling/The hexcrystal gets blown through the door and slams in the ceiling/Claggor is hit and his goggles are flown off/Mylo gets empaled in the chest and thrown against the wall/The roof falls on both of them./Marcus sees the explosion. 5:55:16 - What the fuck?/Deckard still going and so Vander knows he’s the only one who can do anything/Vander’s sons just died but his daughter is still alive/The fucking scream/The one who would have fought for Zaun/Vi sees what’s left of her friends and the head of the monkey bomb/And it gets worst!/ 6:00:37 - Silco stabs Vander in the back/Vander eventually loses his drive and is pushed off the edge/“Get the girl.” Not on Vander’s watch!/Vander hulks out/Get Silco or Vi? 6:05:52 - “Take of Powder.”/This is thee scene./“Vi it worked!”/The facial animations on Powder’s realization as to what she did/“I told you to stay away.”/Powder fucked up be she was sincerely trying to help/Factors: Powder is a child, not totally sound, and she exists in a really shitty world. Ultimately, she did something horrible that she has to deal with it. 6:14:26 - “Everyone on the show right now has lost a lot of credibility for failing to even acknowledge the many disastrous flaws in this episode.”/“Did someone on EFAP really just say, ‘There might be problems but it’s so emotional’?” 6:23:35 - Vi repeats “I told you to stay away” and Powder is desperate for someone for emotional support/Vi punches (slaps?) Powder/Powder’s emotions: Shocked, scared, and then desperation-“Why did you leave?!”/The point of no return/Vi grabs Powder’s jaw/“Because you’re a jinx!” 6:27:52 - Powder’s nose bleeds onto Vi’s hand/You can’t blame Vi for having this reaction/Contrary to Vi’s character?/This is better than Luke Skywalker in TLJ/“Hurting a child is out of character for Vi-regardless of reason.”/Two very specific emotional states: I am incredibly angry and I can’t be here because I’m hurting someone I love/Vi does the mature thing in the situation and walks away. 6:31:50 - Really great detail of Powder cowering/Look at that shot/Mia Sinclair Jenness (VA for Powder) was ten years old when she played Powder (Also, I’ve heard that she did this scene in one take. There’s a really great Live Q&A with the Arcane cast on Cartoon Universe’s channel) 6:36:57 - And then Silco arrives/He gets a knife ready to kill Powder/Vi spots it/Imagery!/Vi runs straight back Marcus takes the opportunity to save a life/“It’s a huge plot hole that Vi didn’t get tried for her crimes.”/“What’s wrong little girl? Where’s your sister.”/Powder tackles him and hugs him/She really resonates him-they are not so different/“It’s okay. We’ll show them. We’ll show them all.” 6:44:51 - This is such a shock and shows all the wonderful possibilities that stories can take but look what we have./The visuals *help* show not tell./Discussion of “Goodbye” and ending themes
Superchats 6:51:46 - Discussion of Warwick (Future storyline spoilers) 6:56:06 - Who will be coming back for next week? 6:57:43 - LoL Cringe 6:59:02 - Superchats start 6:59:40 - MauLer is gay/Can Aussies cook bacon?/We’ve been looking forward to this/Disney was brave in making the Book of Boobin Feet/Kong Fap/Copyright blocks/What’s Rags’ twitter/Alt platform? 7:06:30 - Blech/German/Wings quotes of the day/Happy Green History Month/Animal of the day/Kick Jay/Favorite fight is that fight on the bridge, convo between Jayce and Vik, and the finale/Who is your favorite character besides the obvious Ambessa Medarda 7:13:10 - MauLer is there “where’s my mummy” kid from Dr. Who/Sips from the mug/Silco is amazing for spoilers. Artwork is great/The mini-backstories and the OST is great besides the songs/Vi gave Powder the old Fat Geralt Special episode 3 (You win superchat of the week)/It’s better than it has any right to be 7:18:47 - My favorite part of the show is the other world seeping in/Music bad?/Analogue horror?/Couldn’t tell who were and weren’t playable characters 7:31:49 - I know superchats, I grew up surrounded by superchats. 7:35:20 - Rags returns at the best time! 7:38:21 - Rags’ thoughts on the first three episode 7:47:01 - Fringy, favorite Bully Maguire quotes/Boba tangent 7:58:28 - Imagine Dragons music video was cringe/Watched due to Drinker/I know superchats/The crew is “coping”/FMK Silco, Singed, and the Councilor/Risky move (Sorry bro)/Bloodborne/Favorite video games, shows and movies?Neo266’s question/Least favorite: Jayce/Count of Monte Cristo 8:12:32 - I grew up surrounded by superchats/I was looking forward to this episode/Das ETA on Batwoman/Vibes/Design of the enforcers/Unbridle praise when?/LoL was just an advertising for Arcane/Been looking forward to this/Best example of the show using the fact that it’s animated is the scene on the bridge/I know superchats/This show revived my hope in good content/Neat animal/Forcing your non-gamer family to watch Arcane/A complete breakdown of Arcane? 8:25:25 - Metal leaves 8:27:19 - You don’t like the song? Bye Rags!/Love Arcane and the Sting song but fuck that tacky song/Halo Infinite breakdown?/Technology inconsistency?/First two seasons of Castlevania/Hope next season is as good/EFAP movies for Mario bros?/Worst piece of media you enjoyed?/Run, Hide, Fight/Off to Singapore/Dying Light/Appreciate the maturity 9:11:10 - Ellie was gay/TIE Fighter short film/Vocal tracks/He hates a’me/Never played League/Pocket sand/Equal rights or equal lefts?/One big qualm/I always hate when people say the beginning is boring/I know superchats/Hi New Zealand/Riot’s Lore/Pop music doesn’t fit/Heimerdinger sounded like Voxis/I grew up surrounded by superchats/Runeterra currency 9:24:26 - Speak of alcohol and he shall appear/Glad you’re covering Arcane/Vander’s teaching methods/Don’t do Kong Fap/169 was great and Trungo’s/I grew up surrounded by superchats/3 hours and almost done with episode 1/Lock and All is Lost/Shimmer is relevant/About damn time/Play DDLC/Hi Jay/Jayce made the sandwiches/I grew up surrounded by nuggets/City of England/Zander Hall 9:37:14 - The first problem was how they got down the building/My girlfriend wouldn’t watch it because eyebrows/Fringy is a mosquito/Do you think Powder being a marksmen is contradictory?/FMK post-episode 3 things/Unbound science is scary/Birthday is your city/Scotland is your city/Haven’t played LoL/Does anyone else think Grayson’s voice is sexy?/When Silco looked at Vander’s body/Fringy’s into Goo-Girls/171 9:51:28 - It’s a syringe/Simpson’s is Fringy’s city/I grew up surrounded with four balls on a cliff/When Jinx stabs him in the face, he bleeds/It goes to show how awful Vander is to a father/Liked the Trungo’s EFAP/Beware the big gay/Ekko stuff/Imagine studying Leaguers so closely that you could perfectly replicate a temper tantrum/How to work with symbolism 10:02:51 - It’s my birthday but no Trungo’s Grumbo ☹/It doesn’t make sense that she puts three gems/You just like to see Spider-I mean Powder suffer/London is your country/Finally a piece of art!/God of war on PC/So Claggor and Mylo got fridged/Recs Belle/No guns? 10:13:17 - Legend of Vox Machina?/Cad Bane/Just Stop/For realism they locked Powder in a booth/Future ex-friend/Apex control mode?/1776?/In political news/Metaverse? 10:25:03 - Tell me how Fortnite isn’t the metaverse/Started watching Arcane 30 minutes into it and just finished it/Wings quotes/EFAP 93/The OT walked so TLJ could shoot itself/Hitler gassed the Jawas so Arcane could run/Had to peer review/I grew surrounded by superchats/Silco uses makeup/Season 2 of kingdom/Been watching Arcane/Who is best girl?/Vander cares for all of kids/Really wished Silco said he’s not your sister/Not-So-Great-Debate?/Grew up surrounded by superchats/Cad Bane/Trans Batwoman
I started watching Arcane for the first time after the stream started. I watched all 9 episodes, cooked lunch and dinner for my kids, took them out for icecream, and put them to bed before the stream had finished.... I love efap.
Arcane did what The Last of Us 2 tried and failed to do. Killed a strong father figure early on. Spent a lot of time with the people responsible. Made the audience understand their side. And from what i've seen, it seems that people were actually pretty sad at Silco's death.
Vander died by sacrificing his live to protect a person he cared, totally in character plus silco and him had a long history together that made both sides actions understandable. Joel died like a meme, out of character and without any sort of understanding of what the devs were doing with him from the beginning of part 2, nobody knew who abby was so they tried to justified her actions by showing us her side of story at a point where everyone or at least myself didn't really cared.
@@xxx-us9fj It is pretty funny how hard they tried to manipulate the audience into liking Abby & co. Oh LoOk, SicK dAd. PlAy WiTh DoG. ZeBrA. U like yes?!! And then Arcane comes in with a villain that's willing to kill children and his mass murdering terrorist daughter, and the entire fan base adores them! XD
"She's not my sister anymore" is a perfectly normal line for a sibling to utter in the heat of a mildly painful moment. You can say something and not mean it. And I think Powder didn't mean it either. She even acknowledged in ep 9 that Vi's voice got her through her hardships afterwards. People having a problem with this line are just trying to nitpick the show for problems that aren't even there.
They aren’t nitpicking, that would require a legitimate criticism to exist. This doesn’t even qualify as that, Powder is perfectly in character to say that. She’s already established earlier on to be emotionally and mentally unstable/troubled, the scene of her in her bedroom having a mental breakdown is proof enough of this and she’s experienced a massive amount of emotional trauma in life already. This isn’t to say that any like a character utters is justified by them being emotionally scared or mentally unstable, but this line certainly qualifies as being in line with those traits.
Yeah, I think some people think of relationships as a one-dimensional gradient between loathing and love, and that you can't love someone while also sort of hating them. Sometimes, I can't wait to get a few hundred miles back between me and my little sister, and I'd still wrestle a bear for her. We don't even have the complicating factor of her bombing all of my friends and our adopted father in our relationship.
@@MrVeps1 lmao that’s so accurate to a sibling relationship! I feel that, relationships (especially familial ones) are so weird and messy, you don’t just get angry with someone and decide you’re done with them for good, you don’t just forget about them… especially for a child who’s only remaining connection to her dead parents is her little sister. I can absolutely believe she’d get mad enough to leave in a fit of rage, but considering all context I think she’d prolly come back after thinking about what she’s doing, and that’s EXACTLY what she did.. Fuck episode 3 is so good
@@fluff6811 Yeah, I thought the series was extremely good before that, too, but when ep. 3 comes around, even if you've heard praise in broad strokes before, you realise that this show has a sharp set of chompers and isn't afraid of being brave.
“A complete breakdown of Arcane” *talks about 3 out of 9 episodes* Chat: We’ve been tricked, we’e been backstabbed and we’ve been quite possibly bamboozled.
@@RandomVideoApparatus They got the chance to do it with Andor, and it's just as satisfying. They didn't gush _quite_ as much as they did with Arcane and have more criticism to give it because I think that Andor _does_ objectively have more flaws and its highs don't reach as high as Arcane does, but it is still a much-needed and refreshing positivity party for the gang and is worth checking out. TBF to Andor, that show has to work within the framework of being in a Disney Star Wars universe, which is a fucking tough outline to work within, but they pulled it off about as well as I think they could have with very few hiccups.
Serious props to Powder's voice actress. The way she's able to mimic the sound of straining to get words out through the lump in your throat while sobbing and gasping is spot on. Most adult actresses can't even channel this. This girl is a prodigy.
6:36:00 Wow. I just left to confirm and listen to a couple interviews. Powder's voice actress is 16 now, but she got the job at 10 and turned 11 during the recording sessions. It sounds like she did some recent pickups, but the majority was when she was 10/11. That's some really good VA for someone that age. Or any age.
On top of that, the way she enjoyed the end of episode 3 was that she imagined what it would feel like to have caused the permanent estrangement of herself and her brother. So the emotions you hear in that segment are very real. Frankly, that explains a lot of why that segment is the best voice acting I’ve heard in years. It simply wasn’t merely acting.
"it's against Vi's character to hit powder because she loves her" have these people never had a sibling? I deeply love my brother and sister. I have hit, and been hit (mostly the latter) by both of them. when you are a child, all your passions are so much more enflamed than when you are an adult. your love for someone may empower your anger at them just as much as it limits it.
@@ThisisKyle well, everyone is different. but especially kids in lower classes were violence is more prevalent in life, will get physical with eachother. usually not to that extent, but this was an exceptional situation
@@marvalice3455 Violence with lower class kids is THE NORM. Trust me. It's a way of life. These kids scrapped the very day before in a huge fight, and it wasnt even considered a big deal. Secluded suburban children imposing their experiences on two kids from a dystopian slums and saying its ridiculous that they'd be violent, when we're shown violence is a way of life for them (and especially Vi) is kind of hilarious.
@@lockekappa500 it is the nature of the ultra privileged westerner to take their situation for granted. they think their values, dreams, priorities, and vices are universal, and not the result of their particular brand of disorder
It was good that they grounded this in just Piltover and Zaun. They could've went the other route and gone for 100% spectacle, because anyone who knows league lore knows this is only like 10% of the entire map.
Yep and they also managed to still convey a grand scale of everything well at the macro level while also nailing the minutiae of the cities and their inhabitants nearly perfectly. Applies to the champions as well. Honestly they took their time and put passion before pandering entirely and it paid well off.
Absolutely fine that this season was completely set in one area. Next seasons could open the world a little though. People who seen the show know about Piltover&Zaun, Noxus and... thats about it. Plus the snowy area with the mage, but me who didnt know much about the lore, figured its some mountains near Piltover where rich ppl go for holidays or something. Since each areas are so wildly different, there is a tale to tell in each land. Meanwhile not forgetting what made the show good and its 'starting zone' in the first place.
people don't get to see smaller stories because most shows are very american or japanese in the way they are written, things have to constantly go boom whereas a story made by a european team is more reserved, french culture being less bombastic than people might think we tend to pay more attention to the interpersonal drama and world building, we also tend to want to flex the art design
I expect Season 2 will open it up some, but I understand why even people familiar with LoL lore expected the show to be goofy. I was completely unaware of anything LoL related until this show. I've looked into more of the lore since then and fear for what future seasons could bring in.
Love it when EFAP literally lives up to its name. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I enjoy the autistically detailed breakdowns as well as the hour long tangents. Doesn’t even matter if I liked the movie/show or not. It’s just a fun time all around.
Powder's emotional breakdown at the end of episode 3 is the highlight of the series for me. The voice acting, animation, music, and overall tone are just heartrending.
I don't think they realize how justified Vi's anger is, Powder just killed her two brothers and her father. They treat Vi as if she's doing something wrong but I thought she under-reacted if anything.
I laughed at the people claiming it was "out of character" for her, especially that she wouldn't hit a child. It's almost like the people in this show aren't just caricatures of what real people are like, who'd have thunk. Stress, trauma, and intense emotions can't be ignored FFS.
@@Soridan yeah a lot of people must not have heard stories of how siblings fight for basically nothing. Vi told Powder to stay put, she didn't listen and now their surrogate family is dead because of her. I thought it was an appropriate reaction for her character
Her confusion and fury exploded onto Powder, but she also loves her and was for sure holding back, even before deciding to cool off to process it. I don't remember ever doing the whole "your not my friend anymore!" thing, but my sister and her best friend broke up at least once a week when they were kids, and she told me I wasn't her brother anymore plenty of times, while screaming and hitting. Since neither of us killed the rest of our family and it was usually over something as insignificant as stealing the best chair to watch TV in when the other got up for a drink, I'd just laugh and say that it wasn't really up to her.
She was doing something wrong, but her anger was also justified. You can see that realization when she looks at her hand, and walks away to cry. Shes trying to cool off before she proceeds with Powder
I hate to think about how much worse things could have turned out for Powder in that moment if Vi’s other arm wasn’t busted. Even if it was just for a moment before she realized what she was doing, she could have hurt Powder wayyy more that she already did, and what she did was already damaging enough…
Still parsing through this from last night. I re-watched each episode before they started commentary on it, so I was able to refresh my memory and fully understand the critiques. If this takes 3 EFAPS, it will be the longest Unbridled Praise Mauler has ever done for any piece of media in existence. They stopped on almost every frame pointing out things that were insignificant by themselves, (the paper shards burning after the explosion, Vi's facial expressions, the movements of the characters as they run, etc), but cumulatively made each scene incredible. Think about it, Mauler and crew got this deep into the show and the worst thing they came up with was the contrivance of the ladder Ekko drops during the chase scene in ep 2. F'n hell. I'm still stunned Rags' only major deprecating remark about the show was about the Imagine Dragon's song in the intro (and on Imagine Dragons in general). Can't say I 100% agree, but music tastes are subjective.
I think acknowledging small details is just as important as acknowledging the major stuff. It shows that the creators behind it really put love and care into what they were doing. It also makes the show super rewatchable.
I dont like the pumped up intro version, its cheesy and kinda pretentious. On the other hand, release version (that appears in EP5) is way more tonned down and its way better. Choir and large orchestral drums really dont mix with this rock thingy that original song is.
Siding with Jay on the whole "but that's how WE name things!" Kingston? That's the King's Town. Look to Norse names? Erikson? That's the son of Erik. My gr.12 math teacher's name was Vant'slot, but that was apparently some ridiculously-shortened version that came from a Dutch naming convention that had his family named based on where they lived which was like "the town by the river in the valley between the mountains with the..." yadda yadda yadda. Montreal in Canada is the royal mountain; Mount Royal. Niagara-on-the-Lake is a town here in Ontario, Canada; it's near Niagara Falls which comes off of the Niagara river but it's on the shore of Lake Ontario so it's Niagara-on-the-Lake. More about Niagara-on-the-Lake, the Niagara River and Niagara Falls, the name Niagara is of indigenous origin and means "thunder of the water" which no doubt comes from the rapids down the river, itself. We name things based on what they are or what they resemble. It's almost universal in human civilization. Jay is right and Fringold is out of bounds for disputing it lol
just look at the entire german language. so many nouns describe what the thing does. volkswagon? people wagon. a wagon for people. wagons move. moving people in a wagon.
@@booperdee2 I believe that's more a case of "The Peoples' Wagon" the same as the Volkssturm was the People's Storm; both came about (iirc) under Adolf Hitler and it was a big part of the national socialist outlook and PR to portray things as being of the People.
What's interesting and whether or not you all caught it is watch Silco and how he acts around his crew and around "Jinx". He is very predatory in all his body language and even tone of voice when treating with others, but when treating with Jinx he is very gentle and loving, treating her like a well loved daughter and trying to help her through her problems with patience and understanding. I don't want to ruin anything but the bridge scene aftermath and the finale it's easy to see why people don't view him as a "True Villain" despite how villainous and manipulative he is. I think he's a perfect villain, but due to his own abandonment issues and betrayal he was able to bond and truly love Jinx because he saw himself in her.
Silco seems to be a good man beaten down and chipped away by the world until he snapped. Kind of like Victor in a way, but Victor never went full tilt I guess. I would like to know the drama between him and Vander, but unless I wasn't paying enough attention, that's all a mystery still.
I used to think they hate everything, but they really just have high standards that need to be met. I was mad at them about the Mandalorian but I definitely matured. Now I see it as the garbage it is.
I actually dreaded you guys going over this, since you guys go very critical on shows, movies, etc. but hearing you guys praise it so much really reinforced my ability to determine good content.
To be fair, LoL always had a ton of world building prior to Arcane. The issue is that the player would need to go out of their way to learn more about the world and the characters, because you don't get any of that during the gameplay, safe for some of the characters' lines.
The attention to detail in this show's animation is legitimately mindboggling. They talked alot in this stream about the small facial expressions and such, so I won't go into that here, but to me it's worth noting that they even animated tiny details on objects. For instance, one moment that impressed me was when Powder unlatched the strap on the backpack that had their loot in it, in order to throw it off the dock. If you look really closely, the hook on the latch actually moves. Despite the fact that it was a tiny part on a small strap, mostly blocked by her hand as she unlatched it, they still animated the the latch unhooking. It would be so easy to cut that corner. "Just create the latch, dont animate any of the parts on it, add in a clicking sound, it's a tiny detail and happens quick, who would notice anyway?" The people making this show really must have cared about what they were making. You dont get this much right if you dont care.
I spent about a month trying to convince my grandma to watch it, and I finally did. She even tried to weasel out of it by watching the first two episodes on her own and telling me "I just didn't get into it." "Did you actually watch it or were you doing other stuff?" "... Other stuff." "Nonono. Let's watch." She reluctantly agreed to watch the first three episodes on the condition that I would drop it if she wasn't on board by the end of the third. First two episodes she was joking around like people do when they are trying not to get into something. But even then she kept saying that the animation was so gorgeous that it was distracting. By the third episode, she was deadly silent and at the end she wanted to keep going. All that to say is that she noticed the same thing MauLer did about Jinx's nail polish and so much other shit that went over my head. The detail is incredible. And her eyesight is pretty terrible and yet the detail and quality of the art was not lost on her. Side story, because it's funny. In the first scene when Jinx is walking off on her own to look through Jayce's apartment, as soon as she walks into his bedroom, she yelled, "Jesus Christ, that girl needs to eat a fucking sandwich!". And then I lost my shit for about 5 minutes straight.
It's very selective attention to detail though. When characters are eating it's usually slimy gross looking stuff but the strings of goop just kind of evaporate and their faces are perfectly clean.
About the confusion on the place names for "Zaun." If you look at the map that is shown from time to time, the Lanes (the Fissures) is only one part of the "Undercity." The best shot of the map is when Silco puts the grenade thingy on the map on his desk. There you can see is the Alcove District, Low Piltover, and something that looks like Southside baytown. That part is probably collectively known as Zaun as far as Silco is concerned.
The end of episode 3 continues to stand as one of the best things I have ever seen put on a screen. It's incredible. It almost makes me sad because I don't know how long I'll have to wait to see something this good, again.
Rags coming back right when they mentioned him is like every scene in Suits, where a person enters a room during a conversation at the perfect moment to finish the sentence of the person talking.
This show is a real-life equivalent of a quote from Ratatouille: "Not everything can become a great show, but a great show can come from anywhere." As I guy that has played League since 2011 I sure as hell didn't expect it to be THIS good. I thought it will gonna be the next mediocre video game show like Dragon's Blood for Dota, but I'm so glad it wasn't. Truly good rat.
I thought season 1 for the DotA anime was fine, not amazing but better than mediocre (the recent season 2 however had major pacing issues). I was a fan of the game so I might be a bit biased, but it seemed like a decent video game adaptation that didn't require knowing the lore in the game. However, Arcane here absolutely knocked it out of the park. I never played LoL so I knew nothing about the lore although I knew a tiny bit about Jinx since she's a very recognizable character, but it yanked me right into its world. And after finishing the show I've been more curious about the franchise although I'm rusty AF at MOBAs and not excited about playing with toxic groups. I did just play through the RPG spinoff The Ruined King though, kinda meh but still it's cool that they're trying to expand its story to wider audiences.
You are literally a League player, and supporter of the abusive practices at Riot so you are a bit biased against Dragon Blood anyway. Congrats on Arcane though, still doesn't change the fact Riot is an abusive company with sexual harassment problems across the board.
@@ArcadiaAdamBae Since when playing their free game means that I support everything Riot does to their employees? I literally don't care about a thing I have nothing to do with or can change. It's on them not me. Also, thinking that Arcane is better than Dragon's Blood is not a hottake. If the quality of the shows were reversed I would've been saying otherwise.
This is truly a masterpiece in animation. I was a Dota snob back in the day of WC3 So naturally I hated league. But Jesus Christ this show is god like.
I feel like Rags really added a lot of interesting commentary about Arcane this EFAP. I'd put it on par with Hasan's commentary on Jay's video. Really enjoyable.
Silcos plan was to kill them all. He tells you the plan when they try to rescue Vander. "Vander the coward fled town with his children" Silco knew no one would believe the lie if the kids where still around, there is no way Vander would've left without them. So he used Vander to bait them out. Then he was gonna kill them all and say that they ran away Nothing Silco did was to hurt Vander. It's all to further "the cause". Vander was a hinderence, he had to go. For that to happen the kids had to go as well. This is also why he tries to get information about Vi out of Powder instead of just immediately killing her. He needs ALL the kids dead or his plan falls apart. Literally "nothing personal, just business"
Haha I thought the exact same thing 🤣 Tho I like Silco better. His relationship with Jinx humanize him SO much. You even enpathize with him in breef moments... Which is fakking crazy considering how cold and ruthless he is 98% of the show.
They included Noxians in the first season. If we ever get a scene with Swain in season 2, Mauler will cream himself. Since his rework Swain is basically just Tywin Lannister with a demon for a hand. Any man who must say "We are winning", is not truly winning. - Swain
1:43:00 - one thing to note here that the hosts didn't point out Powder was fully prepared, willing, and attempting to straight up kill this kid with a NAIL BOMB. The only people that escalated truly in that fight - the knife being drawn and an improvised explosive device. Nice foreshadowing to later.
6:27:00 When Vi looks down at her bloody hand it's not that it's Powders blood. It's the realization that their blood is on her hands, literally in this case. It's a representation of what Vander told her in episode 2: "What happens to them is on you". This all started cuz Vi took them on an unsanctioned mission, something they were not supposed or allowed to do. Without that mission literally NONE of this would ever have happened. Realizing this is why her anger with Powder dies down, she frowns and walks off. Presumably cuz shes conflicted, still upset with Powder while knowing it wasn't her fault.
What's wonderful about this scene is that it's both. Every action, every shot, and every line is pulling double duty with multiple layers of meaning, all of which are interacting in these fascinating ways. They pack so much into so quick a sequence and it almost feels Shakespearean in nature. This is a tragedy that was inevitable, based on what we know about these characters. They never could have chosen differently. They never would have.
I watched untill almost the end of the 1st episode and then opened Netflix. I fucking binged this series until 3 a.m, tearing up several times. This is a masterpiece with flaws. Having played the game for 3-4 years and a 9 years break till now I got most of the references. Nice, respectful touches, lines, easter eggs, mostly nothing overt and nonsensical. My favourite is probably Victor. He has probably the least action-packed story but it really captivates. From a Zaun cripple to Heim's assistant to a second (almost unrecognised) father of HexTech. And all that couldn't stop his weak body from taking it all away slowly, all his efforts, perserverence of mind gave way to the fragile flesh. So he turned to things that are less science and more and more just magic or a type of science most should not delve into. This simple twig just wanted to make lives better, help his people and himself. I can't wait for more.
“We can’t change what fate has in store for us, but we don’t have to face it alone.” - Big M “Surely, we, the pioneers of science, can use it for good. We’re the champions of discovery. Why fear it when we can master it?” - Fringoo “It’s a sad truth that those who shine brightest often burn fastest.” - Wolf “Loneliness is often the byproduct of a gifted mind.” - Rags “There’s a monster inside all of us.” - Metal “Nothing feels impossible when I’m with you.” - Jay “Love and legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress.” - Doomer “He fancies himself a fox among the wolves. But mark me, child, if you want to last in this world, you must learn to be both the fox and the wolf.” - Theo “Imprisonment. What a curious principle. We confine the physical body, yet the mind is still free.” - Das “I will give you the world, child, if you prove you can take it.” - Drinker (to Tatiana) No wonder EFAP loves this show.
I was pleasantly surprised about Arcane. I hope season 2 (if it is a thing) keeps the same quality. Looking forward to see more character development, especially Viktor's.
Not only is season 2 being produced, but they’re taking a bare minimum of a year or more, with current projections being for early to mid 2023. So they’re at least taking their time with it and I’m more than happy to wait as long as it takes.
I mean, the 3 people closest to the center of the massive explosion survived, and the extremely volatile explosive was just stable enough to get scattered by the initial explosion (Instead of immediately detonating themselves) before exploding in a way that protected the most significant main characters and killed other characters that are further from the source of the explosion. I loved Arcane, but this scene really bugged me for how the volatile explosive worked in so specific of a way to enable the rest of the plot.
There is one small detail I think you guys missed out on that can explain away the Plot armour and has implications later on in the episode which is that when Silco saw Vi fighting his goons and winning, he saw Vander in her. He wanted Vander's Prodigy, and so he didn't order Deckard to kill her because he wanted her alive. That's why he later changes his mind after the explosion to "Kill them". That's why he explicitly gives that order after all is said and done, because previously he wanted to take Vi for himself. That's why later on he wasn't checking on Vander's body, he was searching for Vi. It's why he asks Powder where her sister is, and he even elaborates on that in episode 6(?) when he says "I thought that you were the prize of your second hand family" when talking to Vi.
He even went so far as to say “episode 3 was the worst so far.” Dedication. I bet he’s a practiced Bane-poster. A student of the higher arts of Sh_tposting. I respect the tenacity, if nothing else.
On the topic of “convenience” and “plot armor”: My issue with people who come down so hard on those (*cough* raggs *cough*) is that things like that DO HAPPEN in real life. Look up Audie Murphy and how he won his congressional Medal of Honor. They actually made a movie about him, and I can guarantee if they didn’t know it was a true story, people would make the same claims of plot armor and convenience in his story. I get it can, and often is, used WAAYYY too much and as a “get out of jail free” card for lazy or bad writing, it just bothers me when People immediately condemn ANY instance of unlikely things happening, and write off a whole story because of it. *soap box disengaged*
@@jakubrejak1114, I was thinking specifically of some of the crazy things he did and survived in the war. Mainly, that insane coincidences and borderline miraculous feats do happen in real life, so them appearing in stories isn't a breaking point for me. Personal opinion.
Half the Mad Lads Count Dankula talks about have plot armor. Helge in the Gotta Rambo, driving through war torn Bosnia in a Camero with supplies, insisting on only having his bible as his weapon.. giga Chad plot armor. Real life story too
Finally, they're covering Arcane! I'm very excited because EFAP (which is primarily dedicated to crapping on various forms of storytelling media) finding more to praise about a movie/show the more they break it down as opposed to them finding more to criticize is a refreshing thing to bear witness to. Here's to a future where stellar storytelling media is given the praise it deserves and aspiring storytellers learn from those examples! :D
I really appreciate the "experience the show" approach outlined by Mauler around 24min. You guys are making me want to watch Arcane but the odds of me getting to it anytime soon are low. Really appreciate how much you explain the plot as you go along. Thanks fellows.
As the youngest in my family I understood Powder in ep3 so much. I cried a lot bc as the youngest you just want to help and a lot of time mess things up.
A wise man once said; “the smaller the breasts, the closer you are to their hearts!” A wiser man once said; “bigger breasts are the expansion of the heart!” And the wisest man once said; “you must cherish the entire woman, as she’s the only doorway to her heart!”
So I noticed quite a few times during this that the cast brought up how the animation looked extremely detailed in areas and how it may or may not be referenced and as an upcoming animator, not for Arcane let me note, using real world reference for your animation is a thing that's both commonly done and kind of expected of you. Animation is done in multiple stages. First comes the reference footage where you act the intended action in real life, attempting to adhere to the final camera angles as best you can or in certain cases, just capturing the face or upper body to get more subtle hints such as the subtle eye darts or small facial changes that make a character more expressive. Then, using that reference footage, you do what's called blocking which involves posing the model in each of the major poses that you want your audience to remember, using more poses for more complex movements. The first pass is next which involves adding interpolation between each pose and correcting any errors to make the movement smooth. Second pass is where your superior, typically the animation director, will tell you where you fucked up and what you should fix. Third pass, fourth pass, it continues like that until your superior becomes sick of sending you away with other problems wherein it's ready for rendering, sound mixing, generated materials, texturing, etc
That's the only way to do it, especially with the powers that Stormlight provides, the fights would look too exaggerated with live action stand-ins. We can hope it will happen :)
5:08:30 ADC wants to wreck shit mid, jungler tells them to stay bot and farm. ADC feeds enemy team. The people saying this is unrealistic just haven't played MOBAs.
It's really interesting to me that I can be SUPER interested in a games lore and world, but have no interest in actually playing the game it comes from. I've always found LOL's lore interesting but there wasn't really a way for me to get into other than youtube videos explaining it to me. Now I've got something to get it from, and I hope to god that they don't mess it up with season 2.
I've only just now finished watching season one and it was fabulous. Best anything I've watched for a very long time. Never played the game. Looking forward to finally catching this EFAP episode. I knew I wouldn't regret dodging this when it first aired.
Because of you all and this fap, I finally watched Arcane ep 1 last night! Wow. Feast for the eyes and an actual story. So good. Will finish the series by EFAP pt 2! 😄👍👏😃
It always interests me when EFAP praises something and people show up in chat confused as to how something with any flaws at all can be good. They don't realize that their own way of thinking is just as black and white as those who praise everything for the smallest reasons. Not much in life is binary. Good and bad are not definitive. It exists on a sliding scale, and usually one with many sliders taking different pieces into account.
I think most of them were trolling. I could even say all. One guy straight up said. Vi has plot armor this show sucks. Vi is a mary sue! Which is either wrong or inconsequantial.
Well put. Which is why I'm constantly asking for more positive EFAP. Because at this point they bred a following of people that think everything is bad if it has flaws
This is just the way EFAP community is. It's a shithole and always has been. Not saying everyone is bad, obviously there are some cool massives in this community with level heads. But I'm not suprised in the slightest. It's always the same.
Late but just pointing out the only song that was not written FOR the show was 'Get Jinxed' which is from her launch video. Every other song was commissioned by Christian Link for the specific scene it was played. From Friend Across the River to Welcome to the Playground to The Monster You Created, all are Arcane originals.
This show really touched me the way media usually doesn't. I'm not very emotional. I've been referred to as extremely low energy, when it comes to getting either excited or upset. At the end of episode 3, I had to take a break for like an hour before I could go onto episode 4. It was a good time for a break, with the time skip, but I had to take a break. I was weeping, my chest was shaking, and I felt like I was sadder than I'd been in a very long time. For the next several days, just thinking about the end of the third episode would have my chest shudder and feel like my eyes were about to leak. I probably sound weak or overly emotional about this. I feel like that. I don't do this. Shows don't do this to me. This show destroyed me. It's beautiful. And it's fucking LoL.
this is my first real efap, i was the mini for book of boobery, but that was very visual, this i can just put on in the background and appreciate the conversations while i do other things, its a nice atmospheric, i really appreciate it.
Boys just be ready for the League Cinematic Universe, it would have been inevitable if Arcane was a meh at best, now that its actually good its going to go full force. Get ready for the wild ride.
@@bobmcevil6374 it'll follow a roughly similar trajectory as any fanchise, have its rise and its fall. This is a super good start though, and promising if they can keep near this level of quality for a good while.
@@tuskinradar8688 I love this show so much, and because of that the incoming season 2 terrifies me. It is so easy to fuck up something incredible with just a few simple mistakes, but based upon how the season ended it seems likely that season two or even 3 has already been written. It doesn’t feel like an aimless cliffhanger, the writers seem to be building up to something and exasperating the tension between Piltover and Zaun even further than it already was, and considering hextech weapons were just established a few episodes prior, it will certainly lead to all out war. All of this appears deliberate to me, so I’m holding onto my faith for now until season 2 drops. But even if it’s shit I’m still so incredibly happy to have a first season that good, it’s kinda how I view the OT and the Sequels, I can still enjoy one despite the other’s existence.
After hearing a small amount of absolutely vigorous praise from you guys, I stopped watching your EFAP’s on the show to watch it myself. I’ve never been happier with my choice. Arcane was Fantastic. I’ve absolutely no experience with LoL, but I’ve come out of this show, with its amazing characters and world building, hooked to learn more. I’ve seen the various spin off games in adds recently but have only now found an interest in playing them, because of this show. I know that that’s not exactly a great way to praise a show but I honestly couldn’t put into words why this show is awesome, besides saying that the character work is great and compelling, and I just had to see how the story unfolded and where these characters would go. It baffles my mind that anyone has anything bad to say about it, so I’ll be checking out other, “critical” videos alongside your coverage of EFAP and try to figure why people don’t like this show, despite my experience with it.
Ok, mate, if you really wanna know I'll explain why I couldn't watch this show. In the very first episode everything that happens is all Vi's fault, she is super dumb, obnoxious and outright abusive to her sister. None of the drama that happens on screen had to happen if it was not for her absolutely irresponsible and stupid behavior. I felt like I was watching a fail compilation where people do stupid things in the gym that inevitably and predictably cause heavy stuff to fall on them causing horrific injuries and then cry and moan the whole time about how unfair life is. It's depressing and painful to watch. I don't know how anyone can enjoy that. I could hardly finish the first episode and I couldn't care less about what happens next. When someone like Vi is involved it can only get worse and lead to bigger fails and more stupid drama. My daughters really liked the show, they convinced me to give it a try and I really wanted to love it too, but I just can't. Even Drinker and Mauler fanboying over it could not change my mind.
I find it kind of funny how people were surprised this turned out so good. I get not everyone plays league and tie in are often bad, but this is RIOT. They've been making animations for years that showcased the world building, character writing and so on they were capable off. Exploring everything from Music videos to full on short stories. Although it doesn't stop there. Even in game they try to showcase the personality of their characters and the interplay they have with others in the world. Talking too allies, taunting enemies, flirting, movement, idle animations and such. They've been gearing up for a success like Arcane for years. It was only a question of when, not if, they'd make a great full series in my opinion. I mean seriously. You lot should check out their animations on TH-cam sometime. The seeds of Arcane's success started in those shorts and character breakdown videos.
Hello there EFAP, I just wanted to quickly write this to express my thank you for this stream. It itroduced me to Arcane which i watched through on the very next day of the stream and it was a blast. Im really looking forward to the continous breakdown of this series and the commentary of all of the folks involved. I have yet to find someone i can share my interests with in person as they are apparantly so hard to come by but to find these golden communities on youtube, such as this one, is already just awesome and i just love to listen and take in all of whats said in a stream, perticularly this one. Doing that gave me a whole new show to watch that i most certainly enjoyed. By streaming about Arcane you not only introduced me to something new but also something you guys all like and say is preety good which definetly was nice to keep in mind while watching the show as i could confidently say whatever im seeing or hearing is good content and whatever emotions i experience during this watch through i can objectively justify which is simply sweet to have in mind. What else is there to say but thank you. I will be going in for the first operation of my life tomorrow and since that has been respectively stressing me out it was just nice to take my mind of it and experience Arcane on its own and through EFAP. So yeah, once more thank you to everyone involved, keep up the great content and im looking forward to the breakdown of the rest of the show. Thanks again and keep well EFAP Hosts, Guests and Chat.
@@HappyPsychoBunny3 Well thank you very much my good man! A lot has indeed happenened since that comment. I now live back in Germany and am serving in the Military and learning to be a Tankmen, haha. But ofcourse I am still keeping up with the wonderful world of EFAP each week :)
Spoilers ahead if you havent seen the series. 9 hours and no one mention how Arcane is like the anti-Batwoman? Crazy sister groomed by spycho vs heroic lesbican, who wants to fuck cop lady, raised by a chad (if only Vander had a Desert Eagle...), in a plot that tries to convince you of how dramatic and sad this situation is, in a hiperdiverse and corrupt city. Only that Arcane achieve success in less than a half of episodes of Batwoman, that achieve nothing but cringe. Just as Creamy Sheev predicted. Darkness rises on Efap and the light followed to meet it.
So after watching Arcane I decided to check out League of Legends for the first time and the game is pretty fun, but holy shit do people take it really seriously.
Exactly. The game is only enjoyable in 3 cases: 1 Yoir friends play it too and you are chill with it. 2 You are good playing and know what you are doing 3 You just dont care about anyone and mute chat. I recommend a healthy mix between 2 and 3 and dont get adicted.
I have become so accustomed to listening to Mauler be so (rightly) disappointed about modern entertainment, it is somewhat discombobulating listening to him heap such praise on a series. Don't get me wrong, I love it because I love Arcane - and this stream is just the iceing on the cake helping me to understand why I loved it so much. Supreme effort Mauler and friends!
Re: 5:37:02 Deckard not snapping Vi's neck after the Night King throat grab, I might be the only Arcane addict who feels this way but I don't think the intention was ever to kill the kids. Tattoo dude doesn't walk up to Vi and start stabbing; he looks back at Silco for the go ahead to kill a kid because that wasn't the plan. Deckard has no problem launching a fallen coworker off the bridge but he doesn't kill Vi because Silco had a use for her. Silco makes it pretty obvious he wants to turn Vander in to a shimmer monster. It's only after the shimmer plant is destroyed that Silco spits the order to kill the kids. Over the course of the following acts we learn that Silco will control powerful people (ie Marcus and Renni) by threatening their kids and in hindsight it's exactly the kind of leverage he would need to control a hulked out Vander.
I watched Arcane on Drinkers recommendation, and my lord am i glad I did. Such a breath of fresh air to have actual solid writing these days. Super glad to see the gang having positive reactions to something in these dismal times!
I'm surprised they didn't make a bigger deal out of Powder's display of preternatural marksmanship. Especially when her core conflict at this point is 'I want to help, but I am weak.' She does so well in the arcade, it begs the question of why the heck they don't give her at least a slingshot.
Jinx being almost excited biting her lip everytime someone might die and vi hitting people faster and faster, always losing fights first but then win.. These are hints to their passive abilities ingame..
One of my favorite sequences in the show is Jinx vs Ekko, not only is it just visually stellar but the pure excitement both characters get from being in a decent fight is so apparent and relevant to their characters as well.
I'm glad to see there's no big dispute over any "woke" aspects of the show, which normally just hinders the focus on the storytelling and the discussions surrounding it.
This is why i like EFAP. They focus on the writting and not the politics.One of the reasons i stopped watching Friday Night Titghts and related. Only complaints about woke and real life politcs kept getting involved and just made it tiring.EFAP talk about the writting, make fun of ilogical stuff while praising the good ones.
I can’t really say there’s a very woke angle on the show anyway, no aspects of the diversity of the show feel forced or poorly integrated, the traits often praised by that kind of crowd exist in the show naturally and organically and actually effect the characters in logical ways. So not that I disagree, but that aspect of the show didn’t really exists to potentially criticize.
To make episode 3s ending even more meaningful, the music playing as the explosion happens is the leitmotif for jinx. It's the first moment that forges and establishes the characterizes jinx instead of powder. All the deaths she caused and the destructive aspect of her specially going forward. As the show goes on you hear that motif and theme transforming and telling jinx's story with her.
10:40:35 Please, excuse the absolute ridiculousness that was this superchat. It was never my intention to confuse you. Iam impressed that you still figured out almost exactly what I meant. Who would even be able to take Wolf's part on with I really like in the original debate? For me he is irreplaceable & I miss him dearly. I meant a Co-host besides you MooLer/MauLer - I have no idea why I wrote third. Looking forward to the next three EFAP's (& the new movis/games that may attracts your attention) & next time I either try to be more explicit or be less parsimonious (more money equals more characters in the superchat) to explain it more superiorly. Sorry again for confusing you this late into the stream. Thx, for the answer. Have a nice Sunday evening
6:48:45 The best example of this concept I ever saw was in one version of Hunter x Hunter I saw. Every episode ended with the preview of the next episode after the credits, using the same preview theme from the very first arc (it also plays when Gon catches the fish in the very first episode). In a late episode, just after finally being humanized, the main antagonist of the show's largest arc slowly dies in a post credits scene. Two seconds after the final words are quietly spoken to him, the preview theme starts at full blast. Our whole Discord went from somber silence to laughing uncontrollably in an instant. Legendary.
One thing on episode three. Yal get to talking about how the jail cell/torture room can be fortified from the inside and how that is a bit of a plot hole. Thing is, the place they are in isn't an evil lair, it is a factory. The room they are in is a storage room, for a factory, in a rough town. If anything it would feel weird if it didn't have big metal sliding doors and rundown brickwalls. Maybe it's just my personal experience working in old warehouses, but the setting felt very natural to me.
Yeah it’s a commandeered building used for the purposes of housing Silco’s endeavors. I seriously doubt many people would repurpose a room with a reinforced door only to consider the brick walls insufficient in containing a prisoner… and even if they did, I doubt that’s at the top of their priorities list.
The Lyrics to “The Stains of Time” (from the metal gear rising soundtrack) feel like they fit a lot of things going on in this show. “Wash away the anger… Here I stand beneath the warm and soothing rain Droplets falling gently down on the terrain Wash away the sorrow of the stains of time But there’s no memory, it’s only dry inside In the mud and sinking deeper Until a peaceful life- *And it will flow, like a flood of pain, pouring down on me!* *And it will not let up until the end is here!* *And it will go, through the darkest day, in the final hour!* *And it will never rest until the clouds are clear!* *Until it finds my dreams have disappeared*!”
kinda fits silco, really. a man who refused to let stagnant peace get in the way of his goals and his fight, but ended up doing horrible shit that wasnt strictly necessary.
@@frenchcoat3140 that sounds more like “The Only Thing I Know For Real”, IMO. And I think that song fits a lot of things going on in this show too. … Damn it, I have to type it out, mgr songs deserve no less. “Memories broken, the truth goes unspoken, I’ve even forgotten my name! I don’t know the season, or what is the reason I’m standing here holding my blade! A desolate place (place) Without any trace (trace) It’s only the cold wind I feel… It’s me that I spite as I stand up and fight The only thing I know for real- There will be Blood! (Blood) Shed! (Shed) The man in the mirror nods his head! The only one! (one) left! (left) Will sit upon the dragons back! Because the mountains don’t give back what they take… Oh no there will be blood! (Blood) shed! It’s the only thing I’ve ever known! Losing my identity, wondering have I gone insane? To find the truth in front of me, I must climb this mountain range Looking downward from this deadly height Never realizing why I fight” Jamie Christopher is a king.
@@Party_Almsivi nah, sam's theme is about him keeping on fighting and killing because it's the only thing he knows how to do anymore, and he's gotten so lost in it that the only option is to keep climbing that mountain. I think it's a nice reflection of Viktor, who initially seemed to want to push the limits of science further and further for its own sake, but is actually doing it out of a very strong desire for self-preservation. and since according to the flashbacks with the giant salamander he's been in this race since he was a kid, it is in fact "the only thing he's ever known." thanks, jamie christopherson
Took me 3 sessions to get through this “complete breakdown” so I can’t wait for parts 2 & 3 plus superchat square-up .. a full weeks work of streaming time 👌🏼 Noice
"A complete breakdown" 3 out of 9 episodes Thats the longmenest thing ever. Edit: The Holy Goo Debate: Volume Inifinite and how it's completely derailed a 5 hour stream is comedy gold once again. In regards of the 6:51:00 statement, yeah neither would I have imagined that a cookie cutter tower defense game would grow itself out to be a very competent modern cartoon story like this. But there probably were a creative team assembled by highly talented artist who saw the potential in the game's vague but already established lore and took a gamble to make something outstanding out of it.
Timestamp Time! (Also happy belated Birthday, Metal!) - Total Boba Fett Snipes: 13
Note: I will be doing the Superchats but I thought I should get this portion out before too long. They’ll be in this thread when they’re done. Also once again, they're about 10 seconds behind.
0:06:30 - MauLer: I’m going to guess this is a nine hour video (lmao)/The blurbs start
0:23:23 - The rules of the synopsis (Also Trungo dies ☹)
-EPISODE 1-
0:25:02 - Expectations for Fringy and MauLer were subverted - on the bridge
0:27:33 - The facial animation/It’s nice to see new 3D animated styles/They’re using the facial animations to show rather than tell
0:29:08 - MauLer reads out the song Powder sings on the bridge
0:30:46 - Boba Fett snipe/Who here has played League?/You don’t need to play the game to watch the show
0:36:29 - What the enforcers and Topside mean to Vi/This opening shakes off preconceived notions of what the League of Legends Netflix show is going to be very quickly/“You’re probably wondering how I got here”-Vi, probably
0:39:38 - The most controversial topic in the entire series (“Enemy”)/The songs in general/The opening’s visual symbolism/References to LoL/Fortiche’s advantage
0:53:37 - More video game adaptations (be afraid)/Halo’s TV show
1:01:30 - What was the budget for Arcane?
1:04:40 - “It’s called the *Book* of Boba Fett-books have chapters” (That’s not how books work)
1:05:32 - The episode begins/How the animation is done/Establish character through jumping from roof to roof
1:11:38 - The kids break into the Penthouse/Costume design/Claggor makes sure Powder gets onto the balcony safely/Facial expressions and benefits of animation/Powder is fascinated by the technology and able to identify it
1:17:38 - The kids find the hexcrystal/Powder finds a sandwich!😊/Maybe there’s more sandwiches in this chest-no just more hexcrystals☹
1:21:49 - Oh no! The penthouse owner is coming back!/Powder picks up several hexcrystals but unfortunately one falls out and cause an explosion/Vi checks to make sure everyone is okay/Small animation touches
1:23:51 - The kids need to run away from enforcers/Character being shown from how they run away/They go down a trash compactor like in Star Wars and they escape
1:30:15 - It’s someone’s fault/Match cuts/The local bullies spot them/More character work: Claggor puts himself in front of Vi, Mylo is curious, and Powder is very worried/Powder is the support (Same)
1:33:09 - “Just a taste” (FIGHT!)/Jay hates Vi because she’s a woman/The fight is not clean and looks like they’re actually getting hurt. *And* they’re getting hurt on both sides/Vi actually gets hurt/Claggor is taking on 2 at once/Powder runs away, Mylo is just barely keeping up, Vi looks like she’s loosing for a second but pulls through
1:39:36 - Claggor is a chad and uses the epic pocket sand move/Mylo is losing his fight but Vi comes in with a Brie Larson/They’ve won but Deckard pulls out a knife and Vi T-poses
1:42:38 - Meanwhile Powder is running away/Powder is using a pipe bomb and those implications/Powder lip bites/The bomb doesn’t work so she throws the loot
1:46:36 - They go back to the lanes while arguing because Powder jinxes every job/“I’m surrounded by water”
1:52:05 - Introduction to the Undercity/Runeterra is a cringe name/The Undercity and Topside are visually distinctive/Discussion of “Playground”/The Pleasure House
2:00:49 - Underappreciated shot: Claggor looking at Powder
2:02:08 - The reverse of a neckbeard refused to pay Huck full price/Don’t mess with the bartender/Tobacco/The introduction of Vander
2:12:24 - Drinker arrives
2:15:20 - Vander vs Huck’s demeanor/Vander sees the kids come in the door, he knows that they had something to do with the explosion/Vi: “How did you get so comfortable living in someone else’s shadow?”/Vander and Vi chat/Vander is a good dad/Vander is speaking to a younger version of himself/Really great example of subtext and achieving more than one thing with dialogue
2:24:21 - Vander collects Claggor to go to Benzo’s and Powder realizes that she has the hexcrystals/Powder catches the worst part of the conservations/Facial expressions - no mocap but references/Micromovements of the eyes/Annoying overhearing trope is not terrible in this
2:32:32 - If you keep any *eye* on it, you see the micro eye movements/They’re not overpraising the show also everything else is shit/3-D animation has improved substantially
2:34:58 - Vander is at Benzo’s shop/Ekko’s working on the clock(I’m sure that doesn’t mean anything😊)/A guy came into Benzo’s shop, didn’t even haggle and so Ekko followed him/Vander: “There are worst things than enforcers” as he holds his arm/Claggor: “We wouldn’t be here if Vi hadn’t kicked their asses.” (Claggor is a humble Chad)
2:39:07 - The enforcers Grayson and Marcus arrive at Benzo’s shop/Marcus vs Grayson and how indictive it is at the world of large/Vander and Grayson have a chat with a funny Benzo expression
2:48:06 - Back to Powder and Vi/Also Ekko is listening in and there’s some masks in the background/Vi tells Powder she doesn’t have to be a fighter and that doesn’t help/Vi takes Powder to the rooftop to explain that everyone has bad days/Powder shows Vi the hexcrystals
2:52:36 - Introducing Silco/All the details of the lair/Who’s standing in the background?/Is Silco in the games?/Every Frame is a Painting/Feeding a drug to a rat and it fucks up a cat
Bless you in advance.
Doing Gods work
-EPISODE 2-
3:06:48 - Episode 2 begins with a POV of the penthouse owner/Where have Jayce and Cait come from?/Vi checks on Jayce to make sure he’s okay
3:09:20 - Jayce’s flashback/Jayce’s mom’s frostbite/Someone turns up to save them with magic/What the fuck is this?!?!/Arcane shows that Jayce is invested in miagc
3:15:11 - Drinker’s opinion on the theme
3:16:22 - Explosion has consequences for Topside /There’s a snooty guy in the background who’s curious about all this stuff/It makes sense that Viktor doesn’t say his name/It’s concluded that Jayce has to go to prison/They characterize the “rich guy”/Everyone in this show has good and bad aspects to them
3:21:34 - Introduction to Heimerdinger and it’s visuals/Even the silly looking character has deep, complex scenes/“Curious, we imprison the body but let the mind be free.”/Heimerdinger advises Jayce to own your mistakes and to not mention magic/Negative reaction to magic
3:27:28 - Back to the kids who are laying low and working out/An animator did three years of boxing to get Vi’s movements down (Fucking legend!)/The 2-D animations/The micromovements and the leaderboard/The visuals of Powder’s shooting game/It’s a little silly that Powder hits every shot/The fuck off expression (Pow-Pow’s so cute!)
3:32:22 - The enforcers are roughing up someone outside and then he gets thrown through the window/Contrived bad luck that it just happened to be right where the kids are/Mylo tries to shoot them with the toy gun and then Vi knocks them the fuck out/Weirdest moment of cause and effect/Marcus pulls out a gun on the kids but doesn’t have a good shot/The crew is really stretching it?
3:37:54 - Match cut to the introduction of Mel Medarda/“Richest person in Piltover but the poorest Medarda” line is actually good/Is there anything happening in the city? And she picks up a *child’s toy*/Mel’s design is fantastic
3:41:05 - Introduction to Caitlyn Kiramman and the visuals of them/They’re talking about the fate of Jayce/Cut to the Last Drop where tensions are rising/Vander’s trying to keep them all calm but this woman is having not of it/Signifies a change in Vander’s ability to lead the undercity/The kids aren’t worried about this and Powder is even wanting to nail them/Ekko looks incredibly sus/Powder pokes out from the side (So cute!)/Ekko’s tells them about the deal
3:45:33 - Mel gives one of the councilmembers the child’s toy/Salo is eating nuts and tries to use it as a gift…it fails/Heimerdinger is happy to see Jayce/Writing problem solving to get the outcome they want (I know, crazy!)/Jayce is pushed to say “I’m making magic!” without contrives/How infinitely frustrating it is that he had it under control but some idiots broke into his house and fucked with it/Heimerdinger is angry /Chat: “I found Heimerdinger frustrating because he had a habit of saying ‘This is very bad, don’t do it’ but doesn’t elaborate at all.”/The magic is never *really* understood
3:54:36 - After Jayce lashes out, he loses the leverage so his mom (Ximenia) pleads for his life. The council votes in favor of instead of exiling him to ban him from the Academy/Frost bite/Mel has sway over the council/Is the Council politics too subtle or poorly communicated?
3:58:09 - Marcus meets with Silco/Silco has loads of great lines/“Silco is overrated”, in that moment MauLer turned into the Man of Steal
3:59:09 - Back to Jayce, distraught over the outcome/Little Jayce holding a hammer/Ximenia’s defense of Jayce was that he’s crazy/Both Jayce and Ximenia have understandable POVs in this conflict/If Ximenia doesn’t believe in him then he would find someone who will
4:00:58 - Cut to-for nough reason-Viktor…and Heimerdinger packing away Jayce’s research/Magic is far too dangerous in the wrong hands/The theme of the older generation who made the mistakes and are trying to reign in the younger generation but the younger generation thinks they can change the world/Back to Silco with Deckard to convince him to take the drug
4:04:06 - Jayce tries to go to the Kiramman home to get help and he’s banned/Jayce tries to explain Caitlyn’s mother but she dismisses him. Jayce is out of options/Piltover’s society is very concerned over appearances
4:05:21 - Drinker leaves
4:07:22 - The Councilors are speaking to Grayson and Marcus/The Clog Councilor (Rob) demands harsher tactics and Marcus is inspired by this/Doomer wasn’t paying attention or stroking out/Caitlyn’s main arc/Marcus goes to the Last Drop/Vander alerts the kids/Marcus is a little shit to Vander/“You weren’t always the peacekeeper”/“There’s a crime with every coin that passes through here.”/Character sitting on a chair
4:17:18 - Vi confronts Vander so it’s tine to give Vi a life lesson on the bridge
4:19:51 - Jayce’s suicide attempt/However someone interrupts/“If you’re going to change the world, you don’t ask for permission”/Viktor is quite…different in the game/It’s pain to stew in the cringe of Boba Fett/Potentially, the blossoming of a beautiful friendship
4:26:01 - Vi goes to see Powder with her old bunny/Powder made more bombs, two are full of smoke and two are full of…nails/“Powder, what makes you different, makes you strong.”/Powder picks up that something is wrong/Meanwhile Grayson is arguing with Marcus but Vander’s message is sent/Discussion of “Our Love”/Vi is giving herself up
4:32:33 - What is everyone’s favorite episode outside of episode 3?
-EPISODE 3-
4:33:37 - We open on Silco’s drowning monologue/From Silco’s perspective, Vander drowned/“It’s funny, you can a pass a lifetime without making a choice like that. For that, I thank you, old friend.”/This show has teeth meanwhile Marvel movies will never have that
4:38:51 - Vi realizes that it’s Vander and Benzo rather than the enforcers. Vander is going to sacrifice himself leaving Benzo in charge./“You have a good heart. Don’t let the world take that from you.”
4:41:17 - Then blood splatters across the window and things take a turn/Grayson has been killed/Silco arrives in a badass way/Benzo’s dies/Marcus shouts that this wasn’t party of the deal. The deals have changed (pray he doesn’t alter it further)/Blood money/Vander is knocked out/Marcus is there, powerless/Vi is horrified by these events/
4:46:58 - On Topside, Viktor and Jayce are working together/Jayce doesn’t have anything to lose but worries about what Viktor is sacrificing/“Our hextech dream.”/It’s fun to watch Jayce and Viktor working on science stuff/Ekko let’s Vi out and saw everything, he also followed Silco to his hideout
4:50:54 - Silco and Vander have a conversation/The camera work/“For pride?” “For respect.”/Silco had the respect of all the undercity but it wasn’t enough. Vander shared Silco’s vision for the Nation of Zaun but be he betrayed Silco./Silco’s eye
4:55:18 - Fringy freaks out about goo
5:01:21 - “I was left with an understanding: The only way to defeat an enemy is to become where they fear.”/What a life to live/Vander gets put in a chair/There’s something about the music/Sevika is in the background and she’s scowling
5:03:48 - Mel catches Jayce and Viktor/“Wait. This isn’t my bedroom.”/Mel has an interest in Jayce so she distracts a guard
5:05:00 - Vi gets back/The minute she looks at Powder, she’s breaks down/Powder starts packing up but Vi doesn’t let her. This reinforces Powder’s self-doubt./Vi realizes that she might of overstepped.
5:08:29 - Trungo’s (I don’t know why Jay didn’t just search discord for Trungo’s but oh well)
5:10:10 - Camera work/Vi gives Powder a flare and to light it up if anything happens/Jayce and Viktor are working on the hexcrystal/“Are you sure this will work?” “Uhhhh…”
5:12:22 - Powder’s breakdown/She’s not just sad, she’s losing control/Powder puts together that the hexcrystals caused the explosion in the penthouse and that she can help them./Scene transfer
5:16:50 - Jay leaves
5:17:47 - Jayce and Viktor blow out a window/Vander is discovered by the kids and they all realize that it’s a trap/Silco is a villain, guys/Vi tells Mylo to pick the locks, Claggor to find an alternative exit. She will take on the thugs/Vander is the father to all his children
5:21:56 - Vi faces off against Silco’s thugs - what’s the viability?/Silco is shocked/Vi is taking advantage of dodging the first attack and knocking them out/MauLer shows off a fight scene/Having Vi be portrayed as desperately trying to win makes her more sympathetic/Sevika tries to enter the fight but Silco holds her back and lets Deckard handle it/Deckard is addicted/Vi gets knocked down and then kidney(liver?) punched
5:34:40 - “Really? After all that, now I have to fight the Hulk?”/Vander panics when she goes into the fight/Vi is incredibly lucky that she doesn’t die/Why does Silco not prevent that door being closed?/How it could have been fixed
5:42:51 - Final Jayce and Viktor scene/Mel understands the selfish motivations of the Councilors better than Heimerdinger
5:45:50 - It’s time. Powder pops two hexcrystals into her monkey bomb and one being hit with spikes on the symbols/Tense at seeing everyone doing everything/Deckard sees the monkey bomb/It doesn’t go off at first, it starts to calm down, but one last tick.
5:48:31 - The order of the explosion: Powder gets thrown off the ledge into water?/She thinks it’s the columniation of her life’s work in her perspective./The bad guys: Deckard, Sevika tackles Silco out of the way. Singed gets blasted./But what happens to our heroes?/Back to Powder falling/The hexcrystal gets blown through the door and slams in the ceiling/Claggor is hit and his goggles are flown off/Mylo gets empaled in the chest and thrown against the wall/The roof falls on both of them./Marcus sees the explosion.
5:55:16 - What the fuck?/Deckard still going and so Vander knows he’s the only one who can do anything/Vander’s sons just died but his daughter is still alive/The fucking scream/The one who would have fought for Zaun/Vi sees what’s left of her friends and the head of the monkey bomb/And it gets worst!/
6:00:37 - Silco stabs Vander in the back/Vander eventually loses his drive and is pushed off the edge/“Get the girl.” Not on Vander’s watch!/Vander hulks out/Get Silco or Vi?
6:05:52 - “Take of Powder.”/This is thee scene./“Vi it worked!”/The facial animations on Powder’s realization as to what she did/“I told you to stay away.”/Powder fucked up be she was sincerely trying to help/Factors: Powder is a child, not totally sound, and she exists in a really shitty world. Ultimately, she did something horrible that she has to deal with it.
6:14:26 - “Everyone on the show right now has lost a lot of credibility for failing to even acknowledge the many disastrous flaws in this episode.”/“Did someone on EFAP really just say, ‘There might be problems but it’s so emotional’?”
6:23:35 - Vi repeats “I told you to stay away” and Powder is desperate for someone for emotional support/Vi punches (slaps?) Powder/Powder’s emotions: Shocked, scared, and then desperation-“Why did you leave?!”/The point of no return/Vi grabs Powder’s jaw/“Because you’re a jinx!”
6:27:52 - Powder’s nose bleeds onto Vi’s hand/You can’t blame Vi for having this reaction/Contrary to Vi’s character?/This is better than Luke Skywalker in TLJ/“Hurting a child is out of character for Vi-regardless of reason.”/Two very specific emotional states: I am incredibly angry and I can’t be here because I’m hurting someone I love/Vi does the mature thing in the situation and walks away.
6:31:50 - Really great detail of Powder cowering/Look at that shot/Mia Sinclair Jenness (VA for Powder) was ten years old when she played Powder (Also, I’ve heard that she did this scene in one take. There’s a really great Live Q&A with the Arcane cast on Cartoon Universe’s channel)
6:36:57 - And then Silco arrives/He gets a knife ready to kill Powder/Vi spots it/Imagery!/Vi runs straight back Marcus takes the opportunity to save a life/“It’s a huge plot hole that Vi didn’t get tried for her crimes.”/“What’s wrong little girl? Where’s your sister.”/Powder tackles him and hugs him/She really resonates him-they are not so different/“It’s okay. We’ll show them. We’ll show them all.”
6:44:51 - This is such a shock and shows all the wonderful possibilities that stories can take but look what we have./The visuals *help* show not tell./Discussion of “Goodbye” and ending themes
Superchats
6:51:46 - Discussion of Warwick (Future storyline spoilers)
6:56:06 - Who will be coming back for next week?
6:57:43 - LoL Cringe
6:59:02 - Superchats start
6:59:40 - MauLer is gay/Can Aussies cook bacon?/We’ve been looking forward to this/Disney was brave in making the Book of Boobin Feet/Kong Fap/Copyright blocks/What’s Rags’ twitter/Alt platform?
7:06:30 - Blech/German/Wings quotes of the day/Happy Green History Month/Animal of the day/Kick Jay/Favorite fight is that fight on the bridge, convo between Jayce and Vik, and the finale/Who is your favorite character besides the obvious Ambessa Medarda
7:13:10 - MauLer is there “where’s my mummy” kid from Dr. Who/Sips from the mug/Silco is amazing for spoilers. Artwork is great/The mini-backstories and the OST is great besides the songs/Vi gave Powder the old Fat Geralt Special episode 3 (You win superchat of the week)/It’s better than it has any right to be
7:18:47 - My favorite part of the show is the other world seeping in/Music bad?/Analogue horror?/Couldn’t tell who were and weren’t playable characters
7:31:49 - I know superchats, I grew up surrounded by superchats.
7:35:20 - Rags returns at the best time!
7:38:21 - Rags’ thoughts on the first three episode
7:47:01 - Fringy, favorite Bully Maguire quotes/Boba tangent
7:58:28 - Imagine Dragons music video was cringe/Watched due to Drinker/I know superchats/The crew is “coping”/FMK Silco, Singed, and the Councilor/Risky move (Sorry bro)/Bloodborne/Favorite video games, shows and movies?Neo266’s question/Least favorite: Jayce/Count of Monte Cristo
8:12:32 - I grew up surrounded by superchats/I was looking forward to this episode/Das ETA on Batwoman/Vibes/Design of the enforcers/Unbridle praise when?/LoL was just an advertising for Arcane/Been looking forward to this/Best example of the show using the fact that it’s animated is the scene on the bridge/I know superchats/This show revived my hope in good content/Neat animal/Forcing your non-gamer family to watch Arcane/A complete breakdown of Arcane?
8:25:25 - Metal leaves
8:27:19 - You don’t like the song? Bye Rags!/Love Arcane and the Sting song but fuck that tacky song/Halo Infinite breakdown?/Technology inconsistency?/First two seasons of Castlevania/Hope next season is as good/EFAP movies for Mario bros?/Worst piece of media you enjoyed?/Run, Hide, Fight/Off to Singapore/Dying Light/Appreciate the maturity
9:11:10 - Ellie was gay/TIE Fighter short film/Vocal tracks/He hates a’me/Never played League/Pocket sand/Equal rights or equal lefts?/One big qualm/I always hate when people say the beginning is boring/I know superchats/Hi New Zealand/Riot’s Lore/Pop music doesn’t fit/Heimerdinger sounded like Voxis/I grew up surrounded by superchats/Runeterra currency
9:24:26 - Speak of alcohol and he shall appear/Glad you’re covering Arcane/Vander’s teaching methods/Don’t do Kong Fap/169 was great and Trungo’s/I grew up surrounded by superchats/3 hours and almost done with episode 1/Lock and All is Lost/Shimmer is relevant/About damn time/Play DDLC/Hi Jay/Jayce made the sandwiches/I grew up surrounded by nuggets/City of England/Zander Hall
9:37:14 - The first problem was how they got down the building/My girlfriend wouldn’t watch it because eyebrows/Fringy is a mosquito/Do you think Powder being a marksmen is contradictory?/FMK post-episode 3 things/Unbound science is scary/Birthday is your city/Scotland is your city/Haven’t played LoL/Does anyone else think Grayson’s voice is sexy?/When Silco looked at Vander’s body/Fringy’s into Goo-Girls/171
9:51:28 - It’s a syringe/Simpson’s is Fringy’s city/I grew up surrounded with four balls on a cliff/When Jinx stabs him in the face, he bleeds/It goes to show how awful Vander is to a father/Liked the Trungo’s EFAP/Beware the big gay/Ekko stuff/Imagine studying Leaguers so closely that you could perfectly replicate a temper tantrum/How to work with symbolism
10:02:51 - It’s my birthday but no Trungo’s Grumbo ☹/It doesn’t make sense that she puts three gems/You just like to see Spider-I mean Powder suffer/London is your country/Finally a piece of art!/God of war on PC/So Claggor and Mylo got fridged/Recs Belle/No guns?
10:13:17 - Legend of Vox Machina?/Cad Bane/Just Stop/For realism they locked Powder in a booth/Future ex-friend/Apex control mode?/1776?/In political news/Metaverse?
10:25:03 - Tell me how Fortnite isn’t the metaverse/Started watching Arcane 30 minutes into it and just finished it/Wings quotes/EFAP 93/The OT walked so TLJ could shoot itself/Hitler gassed the Jawas so Arcane could run/Had to peer review/I grew surrounded by superchats/Silco uses makeup/Season 2 of kingdom/Been watching Arcane/Who is best girl?/Vander cares for all of kids/Really wished Silco said he’s not your sister/Not-So-Great-Debate?/Grew up surrounded by superchats/Cad Bane/Trans Batwoman
I started watching Arcane for the first time after the stream started. I watched all 9 episodes, cooked lunch and dinner for my kids, took them out for icecream, and put them to bed before the stream had finished.... I love efap.
Your life sounds awesome.
@@crimsonpotemkin thanks it was a great day
Yeah we all commed together. LOL
And they’re only a 3rd way there
@@hyperbolicninja My hero! An honest respect to you, sir!
Arcane did what The Last of Us 2 tried and failed to do.
Killed a strong father figure early on.
Spent a lot of time with the people responsible.
Made the audience understand their side.
And from what i've seen, it seems that people were actually pretty sad at Silco's death.
they even have Vi give Powder the ol' Fat Geralt special in episode 3!
Vander died by sacrificing his live to protect a person he cared, totally in character plus silco and him had a long history together that made both sides actions understandable.
Joel died like a meme, out of character and without any sort of understanding of what the devs were doing with him from the beginning of part 2, nobody knew who abby was so they tried to justified her actions by showing us her side of story at a point where everyone or at least myself didn't really cared.
@@xxx-us9fj It is pretty funny how hard they tried to manipulate the audience into liking Abby & co. Oh LoOk, SicK dAd. PlAy WiTh DoG. ZeBrA. U like yes?!!
And then Arcane comes in with a villain that's willing to kill children and his mass murdering terrorist daughter, and the entire fan base adores them! XD
Silco's death was when I properly teared up. Episode 3 nearly had me though
@@JarlCrimson well I heard some people think silco is overrated lol
"She's not my sister anymore" is a perfectly normal line for a sibling to utter in the heat of a mildly painful moment. You can say something and not mean it. And I think Powder didn't mean it either. She even acknowledged in ep 9 that Vi's voice got her through her hardships afterwards.
People having a problem with this line are just trying to nitpick the show for problems that aren't even there.
They aren’t nitpicking, that would require a legitimate criticism to exist. This doesn’t even qualify as that, Powder is perfectly in character to say that. She’s already established earlier on to be emotionally and mentally unstable/troubled, the scene of her in her bedroom having a mental breakdown is proof enough of this and she’s experienced a massive amount of emotional trauma in life already.
This isn’t to say that any like a character utters is justified by them being emotionally scared or mentally unstable, but this line certainly qualifies as being in line with those traits.
Yeah, I think some people think of relationships as a one-dimensional gradient between loathing and love, and that you can't love someone while also sort of hating them. Sometimes, I can't wait to get a few hundred miles back between me and my little sister, and I'd still wrestle a bear for her. We don't even have the complicating factor of her bombing all of my friends and our adopted father in our relationship.
@@MrVeps1 lmao that’s so accurate to a sibling relationship!
I feel that, relationships (especially familial ones) are so weird and messy, you don’t just get angry with someone and decide you’re done with them for good, you don’t just forget about them… especially for a child who’s only remaining connection to her dead parents is her little sister. I can absolutely believe she’d get mad enough to leave in a fit of rage, but considering all context I think she’d prolly come back after thinking about what she’s doing, and that’s EXACTLY what she did..
Fuck episode 3 is so good
@@fluff6811 Yeah, I thought the series was extremely good before that, too, but when ep. 3 comes around, even if you've heard praise in broad strokes before, you realise that this show has a sharp set of chompers and isn't afraid of being brave.
Powder is also quite young, and the moment in particular was extremely painful for her. Kids especially say shit they don’t mean in any context.
“A complete breakdown of Arcane”
*talks about 3 out of 9 episodes*
Chat: We’ve been tricked, we’e been backstabbed and we’ve been quite possibly bamboozled.
Chat: They played us like a damn FIDDLE!
they have brokendown the comnplet series in 3 seperated parts. It s all there. you just have to read it correct :-)
@@keto3883 They added the “Part 1” in the reupload, and I don’t mind if they break it up into parts theirs a lot to cover
@@HectorLopez0217 sure. i thought it was obvious i meme if all words in the title are reorder to get to a forced conclusion.
but in a good way
"Where is Milo? Is he safe?"
"It seems in your anger, you killed him"
It's a rare to see Mauler and Gang get a chance to So thoroughly praise a show; but boy is it a treat when it happens.
It's fookin' magical and we need more
There are so few i can think of .. Berserk Manga perhaps
It is indeed a rare
@@RandomVideoApparatus They got the chance to do it with Andor, and it's just as satisfying. They didn't gush _quite_ as much as they did with Arcane and have more criticism to give it because I think that Andor _does_ objectively have more flaws and its highs don't reach as high as Arcane does, but it is still a much-needed and refreshing positivity party for the gang and is worth checking out. TBF to Andor, that show has to work within the framework of being in a Disney Star Wars universe, which is a fucking tough outline to work within, but they pulled it off about as well as I think they could have with very few hiccups.
Serious props to Powder's voice actress. The way she's able to mimic the sound of straining to get words out through the lump in your throat while sobbing and gasping is spot on. Most adult actresses can't even channel this. This girl is a prodigy.
She really nailed it, I suggest the Arcane BTS series that Riot put out on TH-cam. Powder's VA is in one of them
Powder's screaming and crying and begging for forgiveness after Vi lashed out at her was fucking _haunting._
Truly the league of legends were the actors we met along the way
6:36:00 Wow. I just left to confirm and listen to a couple interviews. Powder's voice actress is 16 now, but she got the job at 10 and turned 11 during the recording sessions. It sounds like she did some recent pickups, but the majority was when she was 10/11. That's some really good VA for someone that age. Or any age.
On top of that, the way she enjoyed the end of episode 3 was that she imagined what it would feel like to have caused the permanent estrangement of herself and her brother. So the emotions you hear in that segment are very real. Frankly, that explains a lot of why that segment is the best voice acting I’ve heard in years. It simply wasn’t merely acting.
"You've traumatized the child, excellent work."
Mauler 2022
This is going into my collection of reaction clips, for sure.
I'm still working on that achievement myself
6:33:12
"it's against Vi's character to hit powder because she loves her"
have these people never had a sibling? I deeply love my brother and sister. I have hit, and been hit (mostly the latter) by both of them. when you are a child, all your passions are so much more enflamed than when you are an adult. your love for someone may empower your anger at them just as much as it limits it.
I have siblings and I've never hit them, the worst I've done is push them in anger after they broke a possession of mine
I do agree though that Vi is completely in character when she hit Powder
@@ThisisKyle well, everyone is different. but especially kids in lower classes were violence is more prevalent in life, will get physical with eachother. usually not to that extent, but this was an exceptional situation
@@marvalice3455 Violence with lower class kids is THE NORM. Trust me. It's a way of life. These kids scrapped the very day before in a huge fight, and it wasnt even considered a big deal. Secluded suburban children imposing their experiences on two kids from a dystopian slums and saying its ridiculous that they'd be violent, when we're shown violence is a way of life for them (and especially Vi) is kind of hilarious.
@@lockekappa500 it is the nature of the ultra privileged westerner to take their situation for granted.
they think their values, dreams, priorities, and vices are universal, and not the result of their particular brand of disorder
It was good that they grounded this in just Piltover and Zaun. They could've went the other route and gone for 100% spectacle, because anyone who knows league lore knows this is only like 10% of the entire map.
Yep and they also managed to still convey a grand scale of everything well at the macro level while also nailing the minutiae of the cities and their inhabitants nearly perfectly. Applies to the champions as well. Honestly they took their time and put passion before pandering entirely and it paid well off.
Absolutely fine that this season was completely set in one area. Next seasons could open the world a little though. People who seen the show know about Piltover&Zaun, Noxus and... thats about it. Plus the snowy area with the mage, but me who didnt know much about the lore, figured its some mountains near Piltover where rich ppl go for holidays or something. Since each areas are so wildly different, there is a tale to tell in each land. Meanwhile not forgetting what made the show good and its 'starting zone' in the first place.
people don't get to see smaller stories because most shows are very american or japanese in the way they are written, things have to constantly go boom whereas a story made by a european team is more reserved, french culture being less bombastic than people might think we tend to pay more attention to the interpersonal drama and world building, we also tend to want to flex the art design
I expect Season 2 will open it up some, but I understand why even people familiar with LoL lore expected the show to be goofy. I was completely unaware of anything LoL related until this show. I've looked into more of the lore since then and fear for what future seasons could bring in.
*a politician first mentions Noxian wine*
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW DARTH VAAADEEEEEERRRRRRR
Love it when EFAP literally lives up to its name. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I enjoy the autistically detailed breakdowns as well as the hour long tangents. Doesn’t even matter if I liked the movie/show or not. It’s just a fun time all around.
Powder's emotional breakdown at the end of episode 3 is the highlight of the series for me. The voice acting, animation, music, and overall tone are just heartrending.
I don't think they realize how justified Vi's anger is, Powder just killed her two brothers and her father. They treat Vi as if she's doing something wrong but I thought she under-reacted if anything.
I laughed at the people claiming it was "out of character" for her, especially that she wouldn't hit a child. It's almost like the people in this show aren't just caricatures of what real people are like, who'd have thunk. Stress, trauma, and intense emotions can't be ignored FFS.
@@Soridan yeah a lot of people must not have heard stories of how siblings fight for basically nothing. Vi told Powder to stay put, she didn't listen and now their surrogate family is dead because of her. I thought it was an appropriate reaction for her character
Her confusion and fury exploded onto Powder, but she also loves her and was for sure holding back, even before deciding to cool off to process it.
I don't remember ever doing the whole "your not my friend anymore!" thing, but my sister and her best friend broke up at least once a week when they were kids, and she told me I wasn't her brother anymore plenty of times, while screaming and hitting. Since neither of us killed the rest of our family and it was usually over something as insignificant as stealing the best chair to watch TV in when the other got up for a drink, I'd just laugh and say that it wasn't really up to her.
She was doing something wrong, but her anger was also justified. You can see that realization when she looks at her hand, and walks away to cry. Shes trying to cool off before she proceeds with Powder
I hate to think about how much worse things could have turned out for Powder in that moment if Vi’s other arm wasn’t busted. Even if it was just for a moment before she realized what she was doing, she could have hurt Powder wayyy more that she already did, and what she did was already damaging enough…
Still parsing through this from last night. I re-watched each episode before they started commentary on it, so I was able to refresh my memory and fully understand the critiques. If this takes 3 EFAPS, it will be the longest Unbridled Praise Mauler has ever done for any piece of media in existence. They stopped on almost every frame pointing out things that were insignificant by themselves, (the paper shards burning after the explosion, Vi's facial expressions, the movements of the characters as they run, etc), but cumulatively made each scene incredible. Think about it, Mauler and crew got this deep into the show and the worst thing they came up with was the contrivance of the ladder Ekko drops during the chase scene in ep 2. F'n hell.
I'm still stunned Rags' only major deprecating remark about the show was about the Imagine Dragon's song in the intro (and on Imagine Dragons in general). Can't say I 100% agree, but music tastes are subjective.
And even then I wouldn't say Ekko with the ladder was a contrivance at all.
I think acknowledging small details is just as important as acknowledging the major stuff. It shows that the creators behind it really put love and care into what they were doing. It also makes the show super rewatchable.
@@MobbJacket88 I don't disagree. Those details definitely make each scene more compelling.
Some of the music definitely took me out of the show on multiple occasions, I just skipped the intro after episode 1
I dont like the pumped up intro version, its cheesy and kinda pretentious. On the other hand, release version (that appears in EP5) is way more tonned down and its way better. Choir and large orchestral drums really dont mix with this rock thingy that original song is.
Siding with Jay on the whole "but that's how WE name things!"
Kingston? That's the King's Town.
Look to Norse names? Erikson? That's the son of Erik.
My gr.12 math teacher's name was Vant'slot, but that was apparently some ridiculously-shortened version that came from a Dutch naming convention that had his family named based on where they lived which was like "the town by the river in the valley between the mountains with the..." yadda yadda yadda.
Montreal in Canada is the royal mountain; Mount Royal.
Niagara-on-the-Lake is a town here in Ontario, Canada; it's near Niagara Falls which comes off of the Niagara river but it's on the shore of Lake Ontario so it's Niagara-on-the-Lake.
More about Niagara-on-the-Lake, the Niagara River and Niagara Falls, the name Niagara is of indigenous origin and means "thunder of the water" which no doubt comes from the rapids down the river, itself.
We name things based on what they are or what they resemble.
It's almost universal in human civilization.
Jay is right and Fringold is out of bounds for disputing it lol
VERY true facts, and one of the most annoying complaints I hear from midwits directed towards fantasy.
We named our planet earth, it seems fairly consistent.
just look at the entire german language. so many nouns describe what the thing does. volkswagon? people wagon. a wagon for people. wagons move. moving people in a wagon.
@@booperdee2 I believe that's more a case of "The Peoples' Wagon" the same as the Volkssturm was the People's Storm; both came about (iirc) under Adolf Hitler and it was a big part of the national socialist outlook and PR to portray things as being of the People.
Isn't 'Australia' named after 'austral', which means 'relating to the southern hemisphere' ?
I loved rags’’’s E;R impression. Super convincing ngl
When was that?
@@UmbraMan1 The joke is that E;R when he is on EFAP rarely speaks and Rags was silent mostly
@@Soapy-chan_old
Ah, nice. I’m slow
They didn't let him speak!
Tbh i liked it. For this stream i dont think doggo had much to say it was all tangent.
Arcane is the new epitome of 'every frame a painting'. It makes a lot of sense that it's on Every Frame A Pause.
Agreed, I found myself thinking this throughout the entire show. I could have paused the show at any scene and made a beautiful print of it.
What's interesting and whether or not you all caught it is watch Silco and how he acts around his crew and around "Jinx". He is very predatory in all his body language and even tone of voice when treating with others, but when treating with Jinx he is very gentle and loving, treating her like a well loved daughter and trying to help her through her problems with patience and understanding. I don't want to ruin anything but the bridge scene aftermath and the finale it's easy to see why people don't view him as a "True Villain" despite how villainous and manipulative he is. I think he's a perfect villain, but due to his own abandonment issues and betrayal he was able to bond and truly love Jinx because he saw himself in her.
He's a villain who didn't have to be. He's a perfect embodiment of the sympathetic villain
Silco seems to be a good man beaten down and chipped away by the world until he snapped. Kind of like Victor in a way, but Victor never went full tilt I guess. I would like to know the drama between him and Vander, but unless I wasn't paying enough attention, that's all a mystery still.
Great and wholesome video. Even better, soon we can say that EFAP spend 20-30 hours praising a series with two women as the main characters.
A red haired lesbian and a blue haired psychopath no less
@@noqualityassured5171 Noice
Like Drinker said in his video, it's funny how we praise a show with characters like this when it turns out to not have shitty writing.
I used to think they hate everything, but they really just have high standards that need to be met. I was mad at them about the Mandalorian but I definitely matured. Now I see it as the garbage it is.
Three? Guess it depends on who you count.
I actually dreaded you guys going over this, since you guys go very critical on shows, movies, etc. but hearing you guys praise it so much really reinforced my ability to determine good content.
You shouldn't need their opinion to validate your own. Think for yourself.
Glad to hear so much praise for the best boi Claggor. That boy deserved better.
I was dumbfounded on how well they where able create and tell a story about characters from a MOBA game.
To be fair, LoL always had a ton of world building prior to Arcane. The issue is that the player would need to go out of their way to learn more about the world and the characters, because you don't get any of that during the gameplay, safe for some of the characters' lines.
Angry Joe gave both Castlevania s4 and Arcane 10/10. That means Castlevania s4 is as good as Arcane, and that means his ratings are worthless.
Angry Joe is worthless
Didn't he give an episode of Boba Fett 10/10?
@@diazinamon2431 He likes everything. We should call him Regular Joe.
@@secretlyslavic Easily Impressed Joe
@@diazinamon2431 Easy Joe
The attention to detail in this show's animation is legitimately mindboggling. They talked alot in this stream about the small facial expressions and such, so I won't go into that here, but to me it's worth noting that they even animated tiny details on objects. For instance, one moment that impressed me was when Powder unlatched the strap on the backpack that had their loot in it, in order to throw it off the dock. If you look really closely, the hook on the latch actually moves. Despite the fact that it was a tiny part on a small strap, mostly blocked by her hand as she unlatched it, they still animated the the latch unhooking. It would be so easy to cut that corner. "Just create the latch, dont animate any of the parts on it, add in a clicking sound, it's a tiny detail and happens quick, who would notice anyway?"
The people making this show really must have cared about what they were making. You dont get this much right if you dont care.
It strikes me as a passion project with the talent and budget to back it up.
I spent about a month trying to convince my grandma to watch it, and I finally did. She even tried to weasel out of it by watching the first two episodes on her own and telling me "I just didn't get into it."
"Did you actually watch it or were you doing other stuff?"
"... Other stuff."
"Nonono. Let's watch."
She reluctantly agreed to watch the first three episodes on the condition that I would drop it if she wasn't on board by the end of the third. First two episodes she was joking around like people do when they are trying not to get into something. But even then she kept saying that the animation was so gorgeous that it was distracting. By the third episode, she was deadly silent and at the end she wanted to keep going.
All that to say is that she noticed the same thing MauLer did about Jinx's nail polish and so much other shit that went over my head. The detail is incredible. And her eyesight is pretty terrible and yet the detail and quality of the art was not lost on her.
Side story, because it's funny. In the first scene when Jinx is walking off on her own to look through Jayce's apartment, as soon as she walks into his bedroom, she yelled, "Jesus Christ, that girl needs to eat a fucking sandwich!". And then I lost my shit for about 5 minutes straight.
It's very selective attention to detail though. When characters are eating it's usually slimy gross looking stuff but the strings of goop just kind of evaporate and their faces are perfectly clean.
About the confusion on the place names for "Zaun." If you look at the map that is shown from time to time, the Lanes (the Fissures) is only one part of the "Undercity." The best shot of the map is when Silco puts the grenade thingy on the map on his desk. There you can see is the Alcove District, Low Piltover, and something that looks like Southside baytown. That part is probably collectively known as Zaun as far as Silco is concerned.
Watched most of the EFAP live, now I started a rewatch of Arcane. This show so good...
The end of episode 3 continues to stand as one of the best things I have ever seen put on a screen. It's incredible. It almost makes me sad because I don't know how long I'll have to wait to see something this good, again.
Rags coming back right when they mentioned him is like every scene in Suits, where a person enters a room during a conversation at the perfect moment to finish the sentence of the person talking.
This show is a real-life equivalent of a quote from Ratatouille:
"Not everything can become a great show, but a great show can come from anywhere."
As I guy that has played League since 2011 I sure as hell didn't expect it to be THIS good. I thought it will gonna be the next mediocre video game show like Dragon's Blood for Dota, but I'm so glad it wasn't. Truly good rat.
I thought season 1 for the DotA anime was fine, not amazing but better than mediocre (the recent season 2 however had major pacing issues). I was a fan of the game so I might be a bit biased, but it seemed like a decent video game adaptation that didn't require knowing the lore in the game.
However, Arcane here absolutely knocked it out of the park. I never played LoL so I knew nothing about the lore although I knew a tiny bit about Jinx since she's a very recognizable character, but it yanked me right into its world. And after finishing the show I've been more curious about the franchise although I'm rusty AF at MOBAs and not excited about playing with toxic groups. I did just play through the RPG spinoff The Ruined King though, kinda meh but still it's cool that they're trying to expand its story to wider audiences.
You are literally a League player, and supporter of the abusive practices at Riot so you are a bit biased against Dragon Blood anyway.
Congrats on Arcane though, still doesn't change the fact Riot is an abusive company with sexual harassment problems across the board.
@@ArcadiaAdamBae Since when playing their free game means that I support everything Riot does to their employees? I literally don't care about a thing I have nothing to do with or can change. It's on them not me.
Also, thinking that Arcane is better than Dragon's Blood is not a hottake. If the quality of the shows were reversed I would've been saying otherwise.
This is truly a masterpiece in animation.
I was a Dota snob back in the day of WC3
So naturally I hated league.
But Jesus Christ this show is god like.
Rags actual quote example: "sometimes fuel is actually thicker than other liquids"
Iq over 9000..
Sometimes the night is colder than outside btw..
Everyone out there be careful, Fringy might steal your goo.
Fringy was so offended when others were calling shimmer a goo. I loved it.
The goo plotline might be my favorite EFAP gag
Fringy can't steal your goo because Australia doesn't exist.
@@noqualityassured5171 let the memes flow lol
As long as he doesn't get my Schloop that's fine
I feel like Rags really added a lot of interesting commentary about Arcane this EFAP. I'd put it on par with Hasan's commentary on Jay's video. Really enjoyable.
Silcos plan was to kill them all.
He tells you the plan when they try to rescue Vander.
"Vander the coward fled town with his children"
Silco knew no one would believe the lie if the kids where still around, there is no way Vander would've left without them.
So he used Vander to bait them out.
Then he was gonna kill them all and say that they ran away
Nothing Silco did was to hurt Vander.
It's all to further "the cause".
Vander was a hinderence, he had to go.
For that to happen the kids had to go as well. This is also why he tries to get information about Vi out of Powder instead of just immediately killing her.
He needs ALL the kids dead or his plan falls apart.
Literally "nothing personal, just business"
Gustavo Fring of Arcane, down to the half of the face thing, in a sense 😭
Haha I thought the exact same thing 🤣
Tho I like Silco better.
His relationship with Jinx humanize him SO much.
You even enpathize with him in breef moments... Which is fakking crazy considering how cold and ruthless he is 98% of the show.
They included Noxians in the first season. If we ever get a scene with Swain in season 2, Mauler will cream himself. Since his rework Swain is basically just Tywin Lannister with a demon for a hand.
Any man who must say "We are winning", is not truly winning. - Swain
Imagine if they get Charles dance to voice him.
Tieing in Noxus is also a good idea as the empire connects to so many places in Runeterra too
I didn't know Swain was homosexual
@@nathanrodgers5278 Hes not a Homosexual hes The Apex Homosexual
Isn't arcane take place even before Swain took over as the grand general role?
1:43:00 - one thing to note here that the hosts didn't point out
Powder was fully prepared, willing, and attempting to straight up kill this kid with a NAIL BOMB. The only people that escalated truly in that fight - the knife being drawn and an improvised explosive device. Nice foreshadowing to later.
What do you mean, they literally comment that it would've killed him if it worked
They literally did point it out.
6:27:00
When Vi looks down at her bloody hand it's not that it's Powders blood.
It's the realization that their blood is on her hands, literally in this case.
It's a representation of what Vander told her in episode 2:
"What happens to them is on you".
This all started cuz Vi took them on an unsanctioned mission, something they were not supposed or allowed to do.
Without that mission literally NONE of this would ever have happened.
Realizing this is why her anger with Powder dies down, she frowns and walks off.
Presumably cuz shes conflicted, still upset with Powder while knowing it wasn't her fault.
What's wonderful about this scene is that it's both. Every action, every shot, and every line is pulling double duty with multiple layers of meaning, all of which are interacting in these fascinating ways. They pack so much into so quick a sequence and it almost feels Shakespearean in nature. This is a tragedy that was inevitable, based on what we know about these characters. They never could have chosen differently. They never would have.
I watched untill almost the end of the 1st episode and then opened Netflix. I fucking binged this series until 3 a.m, tearing up several times. This is a masterpiece with flaws.
Having played the game for 3-4 years and a 9 years break till now I got most of the references. Nice, respectful touches, lines, easter eggs, mostly nothing overt and nonsensical.
My favourite is probably Victor. He has probably the least action-packed story but it really captivates. From a Zaun cripple to Heim's assistant to a second (almost unrecognised) father of HexTech. And all that couldn't stop his weak body from taking it all away slowly, all his efforts, perserverence of mind gave way to the fragile flesh. So he turned to things that are less science and more and more just magic or a type of science most should not delve into. This simple twig just wanted to make lives better, help his people and himself. I can't wait for more.
No flaws.
“We can’t change what fate has in store for us, but we don’t have to face it alone.” - Big M
“Surely, we, the pioneers of science, can use it for good. We’re the champions of discovery. Why fear it when we can master it?” - Fringoo
“It’s a sad truth that those who shine brightest often burn fastest.” - Wolf
“Loneliness is often the byproduct of a gifted mind.” - Rags
“There’s a monster inside all of us.” - Metal
“Nothing feels impossible when I’m with you.” - Jay
“Love and legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress.” - Doomer
“He fancies himself a fox among the wolves. But mark me, child, if you want to last in this world, you must learn to be both the fox and the wolf.” - Theo
“Imprisonment. What a curious principle. We confine the physical body, yet the mind is still free.” - Das
“I will give you the world, child, if you prove you can take it.” - Drinker (to Tatiana)
No wonder EFAP loves this show.
Was that REALLY said? I dont remember that. Are you paraphrasing?
Some of these aren't quotes from them but from the show..
Weird how many give thumbs to incorrect posts
7:44:40 here is an actual quote from rags high iq...
"sometimes fuel is thicker than other liquids"
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@andethidialbubabibub3261 They're all quotes from the show. I think this one went over your head.
@@andethidialbubabibub3261 but it is though?
Guys! I've come back in time to warn you: Doomer has been playing video games for over 30 YEARS!!!!
I was pleasantly surprised about Arcane. I hope season 2 (if it is a thing) keeps the same quality. Looking forward to see more character development, especially Viktor's.
S2 Already confirmed and in production :) and I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume there will be more seasons after that.
Not only is season 2 being produced, but they’re taking a bare minimum of a year or more, with current projections being for early to mid 2023. So they’re at least taking their time with it and I’m more than happy to wait as long as it takes.
@@fluff6811 That's not a bad thing.
I am very glad mauler likes Arcane so much. When even the longman likes a show, it must be good
I was looking forward to this. I knew hed love it, I could literally hear some commentary in his voice in my head when rewatching it.
@@xentiment6581 An unbridled praise
Not very good logic. He likes bad shows and movies too lol
@@pokespartytv8086 for much different reasons than for why he likes Arcane. Like anyone would.
Chat: Episode 3 has too much plot armor
Episode 3: Kills three of the main characters . . .
I mean, the 3 people closest to the center of the massive explosion survived, and the extremely volatile explosive was just stable enough to get scattered by the initial explosion (Instead of immediately detonating themselves) before exploding in a way that protected the most significant main characters and killed other characters that are further from the source of the explosion.
I loved Arcane, but this scene really bugged me for how the volatile explosive worked in so specific of a way to enable the rest of the plot.
I was so anxious about this breakdown when the vod appeared in my feed but I'm so glad mauler was a fan of arcane
I feel like we were all admittedly invested in what his take would be and relieved he had teh same experience
There is one small detail I think you guys missed out on that can explain away the Plot armour and has implications later on in the episode which is that when Silco saw Vi fighting his goons and winning, he saw Vander in her. He wanted Vander's Prodigy, and so he didn't order Deckard to kill her because he wanted her alive. That's why he later changes his mind after the explosion to "Kill them". That's why he explicitly gives that order after all is said and done, because previously he wanted to take Vi for himself.
That's why later on he wasn't checking on Vander's body, he was searching for Vi. It's why he asks Powder where her sister is, and he even elaborates on that in episode 6(?) when he says "I thought that you were the prize of your second hand family" when talking to Vi.
Shout out too Nathius for 6+ hours of trolling, that’s some dedication right there.
Mr Biggles would be proud
He even went so far as to say “episode 3 was the worst so far.”
Dedication. I bet he’s a practiced Bane-poster. A student of the higher arts of Sh_tposting.
I respect the tenacity, if nothing else.
@@mertarican5456 I don’t think Mr Biggles is trolling…
@@Party_Almsivi I think he said "ı will destroy christian hater efap!!" too on the nose lol XD
I think he actually hates it alot..
Claggor was such a good guy that he cries from the grave at the Vi/Powder break.
On the topic of “convenience” and “plot armor”: My issue with people who come down so hard on those (*cough* raggs *cough*) is that things like that DO HAPPEN in real life.
Look up Audie Murphy and how he won his congressional Medal of Honor. They actually made a movie about him, and I can guarantee if they didn’t know it was a true story, people would make the same claims of plot armor and convenience in his story.
I get it can, and often is, used WAAYYY too much and as a “get out of jail free” card for lazy or bad writing, it just bothers me when People immediately condemn ANY instance of unlikely things happening, and write off a whole story because of it.
*soap box disengaged*
Hm, so the claims of plot armor and conveniences would have been in regards to him surviving a shitload of battles and his brilliant career?
I have another idea for an argument. The person doesn’t survive because they’re the main character. They’re the main character because they survived.
Also there's Alvin York, who basically went through the Argonne like it was BF1 instead of the real deal
@@jakubrejak1114, I was thinking specifically of some of the crazy things he did and survived in the war. Mainly, that insane coincidences and borderline miraculous feats do happen in real life, so them appearing in stories isn't a breaking point for me. Personal opinion.
Half the Mad Lads Count Dankula talks about have plot armor.
Helge in the Gotta Rambo, driving through war torn Bosnia in a Camero with supplies, insisting on only having his bible as his weapon.. giga Chad plot armor. Real life story too
Finally, they're covering Arcane! I'm very excited because EFAP (which is primarily dedicated to crapping on various forms of storytelling media) finding more to praise about a movie/show the more they break it down as opposed to them finding more to criticize is a refreshing thing to bear witness to.
Here's to a future where stellar storytelling media is given the praise it deserves and aspiring storytellers learn from those examples! :D
I really appreciate the "experience the show" approach outlined by Mauler around 24min. You guys are making me want to watch Arcane but the odds of me getting to it anytime soon are low. Really appreciate how much you explain the plot as you go along. Thanks fellows.
This art style feels like what Marvels What If wishes it could've been
Money can't buy everything ^^
As the youngest in my family I understood Powder in ep3 so much. I cried a lot bc as the youngest you just want to help and a lot of time mess things up.
A wise man once said; “the smaller the breasts, the closer you are to their hearts!”
A wiser man once said; “bigger breasts are the expansion of the heart!”
And the wisest man once said; “you must cherish the entire woman, as she’s the only doorway to her heart!”
they will never let you forget the eleven hours you spent on Jebby Nichols but they will never talk about the twenty hours you spent praising Arcane
So I noticed quite a few times during this that the cast brought up how the animation looked extremely detailed in areas and how it may or may not be referenced and as an upcoming animator, not for Arcane let me note, using real world reference for your animation is a thing that's both commonly done and kind of expected of you.
Animation is done in multiple stages. First comes the reference footage where you act the intended action in real life, attempting to adhere to the final camera angles as best you can or in certain cases, just capturing the face or upper body to get more subtle hints such as the subtle eye darts or small facial changes that make a character more expressive. Then, using that reference footage, you do what's called blocking which involves posing the model in each of the major poses that you want your audience to remember, using more poses for more complex movements.
The first pass is next which involves adding interpolation between each pose and correcting any errors to make the movement smooth. Second pass is where your superior, typically the animation director, will tell you where you fucked up and what you should fix. Third pass, fourth pass, it continues like that until your superior becomes sick of sending you away with other problems wherein it's ready for rendering, sound mixing, generated materials, texturing, etc
This show is gorgeous, and it almost gives me hope that Brandon Sanderson will actually make Stormlight into an animated show (if you know, you know).
That's the only way to do it, especially with the powers that Stormlight provides, the fights would look too exaggerated with live action stand-ins. We can hope it will happen :)
5:08:30 ADC wants to wreck shit mid, jungler tells them to stay bot and farm. ADC feeds enemy team. The people saying this is unrealistic just haven't played MOBAs.
It's really interesting to me that I can be SUPER interested in a games lore and world, but have no interest in actually playing the game it comes from. I've always found LOL's lore interesting but there wasn't really a way for me to get into other than youtube videos explaining it to me. Now I've got something to get it from, and I hope to god that they don't mess it up with season 2.
I've only just now finished watching season one and it was fabulous. Best anything I've watched for a very long time. Never played the game. Looking forward to finally catching this EFAP episode. I knew I wouldn't regret dodging this when it first aired.
I'm just watching season 1 right now too. We caught it at perfect timing because we don't have to wait for season 2. It comes out early November
Same here. I bought the Blu-ray when it came out to finally watch it and I’ve been so excited to listen to these after.
An 11 hour stream for my 12 hour shift, of the show I've been waiting for coverage of.. perfection. :)
okay so I can't read the comments in fear of spoilers, but Mauler said it perfectly:
this show has no right to be THIS good
BOO! Garen is Katarina's lover
6:42 Confidence and Denial
1:03:05 Shock and Bargaining
2:13:10 Acceptance
3:05:29 Further Shock and Misery
Go to bed Neo
@@Booringe Hey, old pfp
Because of you all and this fap, I finally watched Arcane ep 1 last night! Wow. Feast for the eyes and an actual story. So good. Will finish the series by EFAP pt 2! 😄👍👏😃
How’d you like it?
"Part 1"
Oh. This is gonna be good.
It always interests me when EFAP praises something and people show up in chat confused as to how something with any flaws at all can be good. They don't realize that their own way of thinking is just as black and white as those who praise everything for the smallest reasons. Not much in life is binary. Good and bad are not definitive. It exists on a sliding scale, and usually one with many sliders taking different pieces into account.
I think most of them were trolling. I could even say all. One guy straight up said. Vi has plot armor this show sucks. Vi is a mary sue! Which is either wrong or inconsequantial.
@@mertarican5456 no, efap's fanbase is actually this dumb
Well put.
Which is why I'm constantly asking for more positive EFAP.
Because at this point they bred a following of people that think everything is bad if it has flaws
Fucking thank you, a couple flaws do not ruin an entire show. Efap stand need to learn this
This is just the way EFAP community is. It's a shithole and always has been. Not saying everyone is bad, obviously there are some cool massives in this community with level heads. But I'm not suprised in the slightest. It's always the same.
Late but just pointing out the only song that was not written FOR the show was 'Get Jinxed' which is from her launch video. Every other song was commissioned by Christian Link for the specific scene it was played. From Friend Across the River to Welcome to the Playground to The Monster You Created, all are Arcane originals.
This show really touched me the way media usually doesn't. I'm not very emotional. I've been referred to as extremely low energy, when it comes to getting either excited or upset.
At the end of episode 3, I had to take a break for like an hour before I could go onto episode 4. It was a good time for a break, with the time skip, but I had to take a break. I was weeping, my chest was shaking, and I felt like I was sadder than I'd been in a very long time. For the next several days, just thinking about the end of the third episode would have my chest shudder and feel like my eyes were about to leak.
I probably sound weak or overly emotional about this. I feel like that. I don't do this. Shows don't do this to me. This show destroyed me.
It's beautiful.
And it's fucking LoL.
this is my first real efap, i was the mini for book of boobery, but that was very visual, this i can just put on in the background and appreciate the conversations while i do other things, its a nice atmospheric, i really appreciate it.
This breakdown got me to finally getting my hands on the show and not just watching it via streams in the future, so merci for that! :)
Boys just be ready for the League Cinematic Universe, it would have been inevitable if Arcane was a meh at best, now that its actually good its going to go full force. Get ready for the wild ride.
If it's on par with Arcane, bring it on.
@@bobmcevil6374 it'll follow a roughly similar trajectory as any fanchise, have its rise and its fall. This is a super good start though, and promising if they can keep near this level of quality for a good while.
The last episodes of season 1 were very weak, and the finale was complete nonsense tism.
@@tuskinradar8688 I love this show so much, and because of that the incoming season 2 terrifies me. It is so easy to fuck up something incredible with just a few simple mistakes, but based upon how the season ended it seems likely that season two or even 3 has already been written. It doesn’t feel like an aimless cliffhanger, the writers seem to be building up to something and exasperating the tension between Piltover and Zaun even further than it already was, and considering hextech weapons were just established a few episodes prior, it will certainly lead to all out war.
All of this appears deliberate to me, so I’m holding onto my faith for now until season 2 drops.
But even if it’s shit I’m still so incredibly happy to have a first season that good, it’s kinda how I view the OT and the Sequels, I can still enjoy one despite the other’s existence.
This was the first show in years I had to just go and immediately re-watch. This was a very good and unexpected rat.
"But...but i thought The Toxic Brood was full of haters that only disliked stuff"
They’re supposed to hate women!
Arcane, the father and infinity war got good reviews. So their brain is definitely working both ways and correctly
@@MistbornTaylor no, but I heard alot of racism, why I actually stopped listening for a while..
Best EFAP ever! I look forward to the next 2 installments going over this amazing show!
After hearing a small amount of absolutely vigorous praise from you guys, I stopped watching your EFAP’s on the show to watch it myself.
I’ve never been happier with my choice.
Arcane was Fantastic. I’ve absolutely no experience with LoL, but I’ve come out of this show, with its amazing characters and world building, hooked to learn more. I’ve seen the various spin off games in adds recently but have only now found an interest in playing them, because of this show.
I know that that’s not exactly a great way to praise a show but I honestly couldn’t put into words why this show is awesome, besides saying that the character work is great and compelling, and I just had to see how the story unfolded and where these characters would go.
It baffles my mind that anyone has anything bad to say about it, so I’ll be checking out other, “critical” videos alongside your coverage of EFAP and try to figure why people don’t like this show, despite my experience with it.
Ok, mate, if you really wanna know I'll explain why I couldn't watch this show. In the very first episode everything that happens is all Vi's fault, she is super dumb, obnoxious and outright abusive to her sister. None of the drama that happens on screen had to happen if it was not for her absolutely irresponsible and stupid behavior. I felt like I was watching a fail compilation where people do stupid things in the gym that inevitably and predictably cause heavy stuff to fall on them causing horrific injuries and then cry and moan the whole time about how unfair life is. It's depressing and painful to watch. I don't know how anyone can enjoy that. I could hardly finish the first episode and I couldn't care less about what happens next. When someone like Vi is involved it can only get worse and lead to bigger fails and more stupid drama.
My daughters really liked the show, they convinced me to give it a try and I really wanted to love it too, but I just can't. Even Drinker and Mauler fanboying over it could not change my mind.
@@HarmKaban so you want ignorant 14 year olds to always do what you think is right?
I find it kind of funny how people were surprised this turned out so good. I get not everyone plays league and tie in are often bad, but this is RIOT. They've been making animations for years that showcased the world building, character writing and so on they were capable off. Exploring everything from Music videos to full on short stories. Although it doesn't stop there. Even in game they try to showcase the personality of their characters and the interplay they have with others in the world. Talking too allies, taunting enemies, flirting, movement, idle animations and such. They've been gearing up for a success like Arcane for years. It was only a question of when, not if, they'd make a great full series in my opinion.
I mean seriously. You lot should check out their animations on TH-cam sometime. The seeds of Arcane's success started in those shorts and character breakdown videos.
Hello there EFAP,
I just wanted to quickly write this to express my thank you for this stream.
It itroduced me to Arcane which i watched through on the very next day of the stream and it was a blast.
Im really looking forward to the continous breakdown of this series and the commentary of all of the folks involved.
I have yet to find someone i can share my interests with in person as they are apparantly so hard to come by but to find these golden communities on youtube, such as this one, is already just awesome and i just love to listen and take in all of whats said in a stream, perticularly this one.
Doing that gave me a whole new show to watch that i most certainly enjoyed.
By streaming about Arcane you not only introduced me to something new but also something you guys all like and say is preety good which definetly was nice to keep in mind while watching the show as i could confidently say whatever im seeing or hearing is good content and whatever emotions i experience during this watch through i can objectively justify which is simply sweet to have in mind.
What else is there to say but thank you.
I will be going in for the first operation of my life tomorrow and since that has been respectively stressing me out it was just nice to take my mind of it and experience Arcane on its own and through EFAP.
So yeah, once more thank you to everyone involved, keep up the great content and im looking forward to the breakdown of the rest of the show.
Thanks again and keep well EFAP Hosts, Guests and Chat.
If you can take the occasional simping and shipping I suggest the Arcane discord. Some great discussions pop up sometimes
I’m crazy late but this is an incredibly sweet comment. I hope you’re doing well
@@HappyPsychoBunny3 Well thank you very much my good man! A lot has indeed happenened since that comment.
I now live back in Germany and am serving in the Military and learning to be a Tankmen, haha.
But ofcourse I am still keeping up with the wonderful world of EFAP each week :)
Spoilers ahead if you havent seen the series.
9 hours and no one mention how Arcane is like the anti-Batwoman? Crazy sister groomed by spycho vs heroic lesbican, who wants to fuck cop lady, raised by a chad (if only Vander had a Desert Eagle...), in a plot that tries to convince you of how dramatic and sad this situation is, in a hiperdiverse and corrupt city. Only that Arcane achieve success in less than a half of episodes of Batwoman, that achieve nothing but cringe.
Just as Creamy Sheev predicted. Darkness rises on Efap and the light followed to meet it.
Vander doesn’t need a desert eagle. He can punch through anything.
Well the new excrement is Booba Futt so thats the new anti example
Vander is just the ultimate Chad rly isnt he? 😂😂
If only Vander had said "what you bring me"
So after watching Arcane I decided to check out League of Legends for the first time and the game is pretty fun, but holy shit do people take it really seriously.
Exactly. The game is only enjoyable in 3 cases:
1 Yoir friends play it too and you are chill with it.
2 You are good playing and know what you are doing
3 You just dont care about anyone and mute chat.
I recommend a healthy mix between 2 and 3 and dont get adicted.
@@willychonkers9360 I reckon playing against bots also works.
I have become so accustomed to listening to Mauler be so (rightly) disappointed about modern entertainment, it is somewhat discombobulating listening to him heap such praise on a series. Don't get me wrong, I love it because I love Arcane - and this stream is just the iceing on the cake helping me to understand why I loved it so much. Supreme effort Mauler and friends!
Re: 5:37:02 Deckard not snapping Vi's neck after the Night King throat grab, I might be the only Arcane addict who feels this way but I don't think the intention was ever to kill the kids. Tattoo dude doesn't walk up to Vi and start stabbing; he looks back at Silco for the go ahead to kill a kid because that wasn't the plan. Deckard has no problem launching a fallen coworker off the bridge but he doesn't kill Vi because Silco had a use for her. Silco makes it pretty obvious he wants to turn Vander in to a shimmer monster. It's only after the shimmer plant is destroyed that Silco spits the order to kill the kids. Over the course of the following acts we learn that Silco will control powerful people (ie Marcus and Renni) by threatening their kids and in hindsight it's exactly the kind of leverage he would need to control a hulked out Vander.
I watched Arcane on Drinkers recommendation, and my lord am i glad I did. Such a breath of fresh air to have actual solid writing these days. Super glad to see the gang having positive reactions to something in these dismal times!
Its leftish trash propaganda
I'm surprised they didn't make a bigger deal out of Powder's display of preternatural marksmanship. Especially when her core conflict at this point is 'I want to help, but I am weak.' She does so well in the arcade, it begs the question of why the heck they don't give her at least a slingshot.
That would have probably ended better than encouraging her to work on nail bombs.
Jinx being almost excited biting her lip everytime someone might die and vi hitting people faster and faster, always losing fights first but then win.. These are hints to their passive abilities ingame..
One of my favorite sequences in the show is Jinx vs Ekko, not only is it just visually stellar but the pure excitement both characters get from being in a decent fight is so apparent and relevant to their characters as well.
I'm glad to see there's no big dispute over any "woke" aspects of the show, which normally just hinders the focus on the storytelling and the discussions surrounding it.
This is why i like EFAP. They focus on the writting and not the politics.One of the reasons i stopped watching Friday Night Titghts and related. Only complaints about woke and real life politcs kept getting involved and just made it tiring.EFAP talk about the writting, make fun of ilogical stuff while praising the good ones.
I can’t really say there’s a very woke angle on the show anyway, no aspects of the diversity of the show feel forced or poorly integrated, the traits often praised by that kind of crowd exist in the show naturally and organically and actually effect the characters in logical ways.
So not that I disagree, but that aspect of the show didn’t really exists to potentially criticize.
Spoiler, Jay leaves / gets kicked in the middle of this episode.
Jay getting kicked isnt a spoiler, that's just destiny
What else is new
To make episode 3s ending even more meaningful, the music playing as the explosion happens is the leitmotif for jinx. It's the first moment that forges and establishes the characterizes jinx instead of powder. All the deaths she caused and the destructive aspect of her specially going forward. As the show goes on you hear that motif and theme transforming and telling jinx's story with her.
10:40:35 Please, excuse the absolute ridiculousness that was this superchat. It was never my intention to confuse you.
Iam impressed that you still figured out almost exactly what I meant.
Who would even be able to take Wolf's part on with I really like in the original debate? For me he is irreplaceable & I miss him dearly.
I meant a Co-host besides you MooLer/MauLer - I have no idea why I wrote third.
Looking forward to the next three EFAP's (& the new movis/games that may attracts your attention) & next time I either try to be more explicit or be less parsimonious (more money equals more characters in the superchat) to explain it more superiorly.
Sorry again for confusing you this late into the stream.
Thx, for the answer. Have a nice Sunday evening
WOlfs TLj video inspired me to start my own channel
KEKW: Comment in chat killed me "Ridler sending superchats?" got me hard :D GG
Mauler silently raging and gaslighting after being proved wrong about eye goo injections was funny
I love this comment in chat at 1:34:12
"She gave him a taste. She was being honest" shit had me weak 😂
6:48:45
The best example of this concept I ever saw was in one version of Hunter x Hunter I saw. Every episode ended with the preview of the next episode after the credits, using the same preview theme from the very first arc (it also plays when Gon catches the fish in the very first episode). In a late episode, just after finally being humanized, the main antagonist of the show's largest arc slowly dies in a post credits scene. Two seconds after the final words are quietly spoken to him, the preview theme starts at full blast. Our whole Discord went from somber silence to laughing uncontrollably in an instant. Legendary.
"Welcome to the Playground" is clearly a an analogy for the Lawlessness in the undercity.
One thing on episode three. Yal get to talking about how the jail cell/torture room can be fortified from the inside and how that is a bit of a plot hole. Thing is, the place they are in isn't an evil lair, it is a factory. The room they are in is a storage room, for a factory, in a rough town. If anything it would feel weird if it didn't have big metal sliding doors and rundown brickwalls. Maybe it's just my personal experience working in old warehouses, but the setting felt very natural to me.
Yeah it’s a commandeered building used for the purposes of housing Silco’s endeavors. I seriously doubt many people would repurpose a room with a reinforced door only to consider the brick walls insufficient in containing a prisoner… and even if they did, I doubt that’s at the top of their priorities list.
The Lyrics to “The Stains of Time” (from the metal gear rising soundtrack) feel like they fit a lot of things going on in this show.
“Wash away the anger…
Here I stand beneath the warm and soothing rain
Droplets falling gently down on the terrain
Wash away the sorrow of the stains of time
But there’s no memory, it’s only dry inside
In the mud and sinking deeper
Until a peaceful life-
*And it will flow, like a flood of pain, pouring down on me!*
*And it will not let up until the end is here!*
*And it will go, through the darkest day, in the final hour!*
*And it will never rest until the clouds are clear!*
*Until it finds my dreams have disappeared*!”
kinda fits silco, really. a man who refused to let stagnant peace get in the way of his goals and his fight, but ended up doing horrible shit that wasnt strictly necessary.
@@frenchcoat3140 that sounds more like “The Only Thing I Know For Real”, IMO. And I think that song fits a lot of things going on in this show too.
…
Damn it, I have to type it out, mgr songs deserve no less.
“Memories broken, the truth goes unspoken, I’ve even forgotten my name!
I don’t know the season, or what is the reason I’m standing here holding my blade!
A desolate place (place)
Without any trace (trace)
It’s only the cold wind I feel…
It’s me that I spite as I stand up and fight
The only thing I know for real-
There will be Blood! (Blood) Shed! (Shed)
The man in the mirror nods his head!
The only one! (one) left! (left)
Will sit upon the dragons back!
Because the mountains don’t give back what they take…
Oh no there will be blood! (Blood) shed!
It’s the only thing I’ve ever known!
Losing my identity, wondering have I gone insane?
To find the truth in front of me, I must climb this mountain range
Looking downward from this deadly height
Never realizing why I fight”
Jamie Christopher is a king.
@@Party_Almsivi nah, sam's theme is about him keeping on fighting and killing because it's the only thing he knows how to do anymore, and he's gotten so lost in it that the only option is to keep climbing that mountain. I think it's a nice reflection of Viktor, who initially seemed to want to push the limits of science further and further for its own sake, but is actually doing it out of a very strong desire for self-preservation. and since according to the flashbacks with the giant salamander he's been in this race since he was a kid, it is in fact "the only thing he's ever known." thanks, jamie christopherson
@@frenchcoat3140 Damn, you right.
Just finished S1. Holy hell what an incredible show.
Took me 3 sessions to get through this “complete breakdown” so I can’t wait for parts 2 & 3 plus superchat square-up .. a full weeks work of streaming time 👌🏼 Noice
Thanks for the intro to this show, you guys and Drinker.
"A complete breakdown"
3 out of 9 episodes
Thats the longmenest thing ever.
Edit: The Holy Goo Debate: Volume Inifinite and how it's completely derailed a 5 hour stream is comedy gold once again.
In regards of the 6:51:00 statement, yeah neither would I have imagined that a cookie cutter tower defense game would grow itself out to be a very competent modern cartoon story like this.
But there probably were a creative team assembled by highly talented artist who saw the potential in the game's vague but already established lore and took a gamble to make something outstanding out of it.
The show pretty good presenting the prelude of the main story in three episodes.
"Shimmer isnt goo." Zac would like to thank you.
> the gang enters the bar scene in their analysis
> Drinker has joined the chat
I clapped.