It Costs $3,000 to be Rescued from these DUNES! -Terra Tula

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  • @irishman3375
    @irishman3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is NO PLACE like Northern Michigan, the BEST place to spend summer.

  • @midwestlakelife
    @midwestlakelife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I was a child, Traverse City was NOT as busy as it is today.
    We avoid it like the plague and focus on the Northeast Side of the state when going north.

  • @anthonymiller8989
    @anthonymiller8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Susan & Tony here, Everything looks too familiar, because it is where we spend all our time in the summer. URGH I cannot believe we miss you guys and you where here.

  • @lets_go_see_
    @lets_go_see_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wonder how many viewers realize how many takes you had to make. Set the camera film, return, relocate the camera do a shoot, come back then reposition the camera again...... You probably traversed that dune region 6 or 7 times to get all the footage. That is real dedication and physical stamna!

  • @jeffdunn8223
    @jeffdunn8223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I wouldn't give to be young again and choose the adventurous life that yall enjoy. So I live vicariously through your videos. Thanks so much for the adventures!! Much love for you guys!

  • @kristaready8812
    @kristaready8812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You two are such a great couple thanks for all the entertainment!

  • @shanemaloney1716
    @shanemaloney1716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve followed you guys for the past few years and as a Michigander am so happy to have watched the past few videos of you guys traveling to places I know. Thanks for the great content.

  • @tonycurrie2964
    @tonycurrie2964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from Australia. I have fond memories of travelling through Michigan and seeing many of those same locations.

  • @quarlow1215
    @quarlow1215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best part of any trip is when you get back and the pooches are so glad to see you. Jetty was so happy. Beautiful dunes, nice hike.

  • @Johnsouthshore
    @Johnsouthshore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up.in Michigan.. on the SW side.. very close to Lake Michigan .. I took it all for granted as a kid.. we used to climb the dunes for conditioning for pre-season football

  • @raythompson5920
    @raythompson5920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The water in the northern portion of Lake Michigan is amazing. There are some inland lakes in that part of Michigan that has some of the clearest blue water that I had ever seen.

  • @p-dubya
    @p-dubya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Northern Michigan is beautiful. I grew up in Ann Arbor and sadly visited those same places only once. I long to go back, especially since I was one of the out of shape people stuck in the middle of those dunes and begged for someone to rescue me. My daughter was patient and after several hours of resting and trying and sliding down, I finally made it back up to the car just before dark! I want to conquer it after my significant weight loss! Lake Michigan is spectacular! The pics of our kids playing on the shores were so blue, that I actually asked them when had we taken them to the Caribbean…??? Glad you had fun!

  • @matthewmc4363
    @matthewmc4363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So awesome you made it to the good land.

  • @kenpole1840
    @kenpole1840 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recall crissing paths with a swimming bear kilometres offshore during a Lake Huron charter. He/she looked briefly at us before continuing her/his swim.

  • @08cad
    @08cad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Have followed your travels faithfully and am happy to see that you enjoyed “Pure Michigan “!

  • @philabbey3315
    @philabbey3315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's so cool seeing you in my state visiting the places I've been and love.
    Love you guys and looking forward to the new boat.🙂

  • @patience8884
    @patience8884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really, cool. I really didn't realize that the great lakes really look like the ocean with all that sand.

    • @itzel1735
      @itzel1735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salt free and no sharks. 🙂

  • @clooneyclown
    @clooneyclown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's always a joy for me to watch the three of you.
    It will take incredibly more work than is visible on the video.
    My compliments for your travels, the positivity and enjoying each other.
    It's almost like a little vacation for me.
    Greetings from the Netherlands (winter) Cheers,

  • @davenet60
    @davenet60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are the reason we found Cape Lookout outer banks, we had a great camping time and hardly anyone there. Thanks and love the videos.

  • @lmmitch27
    @lmmitch27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahh you ended up in Indian River to get fuel! That’s where we spend our summers now! Mullett lake! Beautiful large inland lake! We named our dog Dune after the Sleeping bear dunes since we love that area so much too! Great videos!!

  • @DavesGuitarPlanet
    @DavesGuitarPlanet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're one of my favorite "TV" shows. ;-) Thank you SO much for choosing beautiful, soulful music to go with your video. It makes a huge difference.

  • @justinp2232
    @justinp2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those islands you saw at Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore have some great camping on them (baby bears). North Manitou is the more rustic out of the two islands, while South Manitou has designated camping spots. Next time in Michigan if you make it to Copper Harbor that is about as far as you can get to nowhere and has a lot of off-road parking on the way along the lakeshore.

  • @skyhawk5265
    @skyhawk5265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The car ferry to Wisconsin is the S.S. Badger, I believe it is the last commercially operated coal fired steamship in the U.S. I’ve crossed several times with my motorcycle aboard the Badger. It was a fun way to travel and has always been enjoyable crossings.

  • @stevenclarue7802
    @stevenclarue7802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THE best thing about swimming in the Great Lakes...no salt! fresh water! I grew up on Lake Erie, live in the southland now. The almost constant sun is great, but I miss the lake in the summer. Enjoy!

  • @jessicamermaid2438
    @jessicamermaid2438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dunes were very cool!

  • @catwhisperer3974
    @catwhisperer3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the same truck! Always fill up at 1/4 tank. If you are on a hill on anything below a 1/4 tank you can lock up your cylinders with air cause air will get into your fuel line. Also, you will burn up your injection pump cause it's cooled by diesel fuel. My repair cost me $1,500.
    Good luck guys!!

  • @briangordon6824
    @briangordon6824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad your going around Michigan traverses city is beautiful and the sleeping bear dones is so much fun know you understand why it was so hard to tell you about the best places to go to in Michigan I'm glad you went swimming in lake Michigan I'm looking forward to seeing your next video and where your going and seeing take care

  • @lindafett1826
    @lindafett1826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Upon returning back to Jetty...Jetty was like--why, didn't you take me🐾

  • @windsurfsnow
    @windsurfsnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Tula crew, I would bypass Chicago also

  • @VonBluesman
    @VonBluesman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Billy, speaking from experience of dealing with over thousands of vehicles from my Dad having 60 years in the business and being the President of the Used Car Association in this state, plus owning and being partners in several new car dealerships, if you can help it, never let your truck get below a 1/4 of a tank in order for it not to suck up any trash into the injectors, plus the fuel and water separator filters. It is not the same when a diesel runs out of fuel like it is with a gasoline engine, you can really run into major expensive repairs. Just a tip, it’s your thing, do what you wanta do. LOL 😂. Stay safe and have fun.

    • @Sirskibumsalot
      @Sirskibumsalot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tip --If you run out of fuel in your diesel truck , You have to bleed all the air out of the system , it takes about 30 minutes for me to do it ..... nothing needs to be repaired . I have done this on my 2000 Dodge as others 3 to 4 times ....

  • @marklapierre5629
    @marklapierre5629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a nice place to visit but I bet it gets cold in the winter time.

  • @amydeutl
    @amydeutl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing the Lake Michigan part of Sleeping Dunes. It was way too hot to hike it the day we were there. I thought for sure it was much steeper than it seemed to be in your video. Good to know!

    • @alisonflaxman1566
      @alisonflaxman1566 ปีที่แล้ว

      All you had to do was drive to the Lake Michigan part.

  • @brianschindlbeck2807
    @brianschindlbeck2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was just in Mackinaw and Traverse 3 weeks ago. Amazing people and places. Probably too late now but there's some amazing sand dunes in my hometown just south, Silver Lake Michigan.

  • @ronaldwarren5220
    @ronaldwarren5220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grew up in Michigan and spent a lot of time in that area. Grandparents lost everything in the Great Depression and were homeless for almost a year. They travelled around Michigan in a Model T Ford and camped. Later on they would take us kids along to discover these cool spots. There is a ship that goes from Ludington, MI to the Green Bay area and also a high speed hydrofoil that goes from Muskegon to Milwaukee.

  • @BobEstler
    @BobEstler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jetty was looking at that chipmunk like "Is that Chip or Dip?".

  • @Rev1Kev
    @Rev1Kev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work in Traverse City, the Population of TC easily doubles in the summer tourist season, we refer to it as Traffic City then. It is Beautiful in the Fall and winter as well.

  • @frogmann49
    @frogmann49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Today Mackinaw City retains the "aw" spelling while the bridge, straits and island steadfastly cling to the "ac" spelling. No matter how it is spelled, however, it is always pronounced Mackinaw

    • @brianw6645
      @brianw6645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. I was told the "ac" ending is the leftover French spelling. Apparently, the French pronunciation is "aw."

    • @laurenellerbeck89
      @laurenellerbeck89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cuz There’s an awe to it

  • @goinsomewhere5700
    @goinsomewhere5700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it was meant for you to go to the that gas station! What a Joy to meet up with friends. I hope one day to see you out either on the water or on terra. Safe travels

  • @MultiYoda69
    @MultiYoda69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you Visit Norther Arizona Get permits and Camp at Toroweep on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon

  • @Rockingoodman
    @Rockingoodman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you go to one my favorite places Ludington Michigan, to catch the ferry to Wisconsin. Please stop in House of Flavors ice cream shop and tell the Neil family I still love them.

  • @johnyoscovits3554
    @johnyoscovits3554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video from Billy and Sierra

  • @timhile3016
    @timhile3016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Traverse City and surrounding area is amazing. Glad you made it to Sleeping Bear and Pyramid Point, 2 favs since childhood. We had a late fall and the colors were amazing!

  • @toddatstone_city_outlaw8714
    @toddatstone_city_outlaw8714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ludington ferry across the lake it cool, but why the excitement to "bypass" Chicago! Just teasing lots of great places along southern Lake Michigan. I grew-up sailing over over LM, glad to hear you're enjoying the trip.

  • @castanzarules
    @castanzarules 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love you guys! Welcome to Michigan, hope you love it as much as we do! By the way, it's Macki-NAW :-)

  • @derfwt1
    @derfwt1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed this blog . You guys do a a great job with your videos. Keep up the great job.

  • @martykendall6547
    @martykendall6547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you got off the ferry you drove past an awesome restaurant. We used to go there every summer from Northport when we had our boat on Traverse Bay.

  • @RLTtizME
    @RLTtizME 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fell down the big Sleeping Bear Dune and torqued every muscle in my body for two weeks.

  • @brianmileti868
    @brianmileti868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool episode, you guys stay safe and keep exploring 👍

  • @22buddyboy22
    @22buddyboy22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Totally speaking my language Billy "city, 2 hours, that's enough for me, get me out of here"
    You know, when you get the new boat, you can sail it right back up to the Great lakes in the early spring and get a whole summer's worth of content, exploring all the lakes. Just think of it, fresh water baths every day😊

  • @FloridaManActual
    @FloridaManActual 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the Ironton Ferry. Know it well. Have a summer home on Walloon Lake. Great woody boat show in Traverse City every year. Love you channel.

  • @kevinhildum9186
    @kevinhildum9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sierra I'm noticed you've been much more comfortable on camera TH-cam videos and I'm glad to see that

  • @steelslayersteve
    @steelslayersteve 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're coming back down the Michigan west coast you must stop in Holland after Traverse City.

  • @meatdamilkman
    @meatdamilkman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video! Thanks you guys! :)

  • @brianpetersen3429
    @brianpetersen3429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mu backpacking experience has been "the higher you go, the fewer, but nicer the people you see".

  • @ngc1016
    @ngc1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree with you. I live in Michigan and love it, but too many people. I have been exploring Canada lately the north side of Lake Superior.

  • @patrickcaughey4059
    @patrickcaughey4059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was that the Ironton ferry you were on? that's a beautiful area from the bridge down to Traverse. Originally from western MI but I now live in Merritt Island FL. I do realize you are well out of MI now but hope you had a great time.

  • @Macka.
    @Macka. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another great vlog !!!! i really enjoy watching ... i like the explanations on everything .. my town in Australia has 2 of those type of ferries

  • @dray050653
    @dray050653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes it is a beautiful spot! And that's why I live there! If you seek a pleasant peninsula, look about you. (Michigan logo) Cheers!

  • @davidlannik3205
    @davidlannik3205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That spiked berry is a gooseberry

  • @ThoughtfulWander
    @ThoughtfulWander 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is some pretty clean lookin water there.. nice place to visit!

  • @jacktaylor1030
    @jacktaylor1030 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys effing nuts swimming in Lake Michigan this time of year.

  • @dadthegrappler4125
    @dadthegrappler4125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful adventures. Love your channel. From a tech standpoint: the walking and filming gives me motion sickness and is difficult to hear all of the conversation. The shots where you run ahead and place the camera and drive or walk by are awesome. Keep up the good work. 😎

  • @timothyhanneman7715
    @timothyhanneman7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you guys ever thought of sailing the Great Lakes?

  • @larrybaltz4873
    @larrybaltz4873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Other than the cables, looks a lot like the the Shelter Island South Ferry.

  • @dejayrezme8617
    @dejayrezme8617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:17 omg that is the most hilarious picture haha

  • @waterdog3978
    @waterdog3978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife and I just got married near the sleeping bear sand dunes in Frankfort!!

    • @itzel1735
      @itzel1735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats

    • @waterdog3978
      @waterdog3978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itzel1735 thanks!!!

  • @annehoff6
    @annehoff6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice scenery guys enjoyed the video, how long before you get your boat. See you next week.

  • @campingwithhomer7371
    @campingwithhomer7371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you made it to the fuel station! Because it's a diesel engine, if you are actually running out of fuel while driving, immediately at the first sputter or loss of power on the foot pedal, put the vehicle in neutral, turn engine off and coast to safe spot. If you run the engine completely out of fuel, it will require air to be bled out of the fuel system before it will restart. On some diesel engines this can be very difficult. I would suggest the next time you are around a mechanic, have him show you the connections to bleed air out of your fuel system. Have him explain the process of doing this as it takes one person to turn the engine over while the other is under the hood bleeding the air. Better yet, fuel up regularly! Oh Ya! I'm enjoying the videos!

    • @tommussington8330
      @tommussington8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The newer pickup trucks have an in tank lift pump to push the fuel to engine you need enough battery to turn it over till it catches its still not good to run out.

  • @alexd302
    @alexd302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Running out of diesel is not like running out of gas. You don't just add a can of diesel and crank it till it starts, you have to bleed the system and prime it.

  • @johnlowery7684
    @johnlowery7684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason the ferry has a cable is because it is not required to have a captain’s license. I live on Maryland Eastern Shore “Easton” and there are two of the same type of ferries. The Whitehaven and Upper Ferry.

  • @algamble
    @algamble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One day when you're 95 years old.....you'll remember days like this and smile....probably tell your grandkids and they'll say,....oh Grammy, we've seen that video a hundred times....have you seen OUR latest video? We climbed K2 last week and snowboarded down from the top! Now we've gotta go...we're snorkeling the underwater city of Miami...see ya!

  • @jackiehartmansvlogs626
    @jackiehartmansvlogs626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Seiara love ur pants an hoddie that's so cool how you can just park an. Camp. At nite side road.that's a good idea get jetty tired out so she sleep while ya go out explore the area.aww baby chipmunk ya both climbing hope your in shape

  • @jimstafford6171
    @jimstafford6171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That camping spot in the UP you liked so much, you can do that all the way back down the west coast. I know tons of free spots nestled next to little lakes all to yourself. Hiking away from everybody - North Country trail traverses the whole state north to south. Miles and miles of other trail systems. Mountain biking in Michigan is huge. How do you find the out of the way places? You should have asked. I have watched you since your trawler days but don't recall you wanting specific Michigan advice. Wherever you are now ask for info in your next vid. You caught Lake Michigan on some very flat days. I'm guessing that changed by the time you got south. Hopefully you kite surfed in Grand Haven or Holland.

  • @jerrygengler9515
    @jerrygengler9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe you are still in Michigan and on my timeline it shouldn't be shorts weather HA!.

  • @ES-xc6fk
    @ES-xc6fk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just saw a glimpse or Elk Rapids on your way to TC after getting off the Ironton Ferry, hope you can visit again in the near future.

    • @MB12116
      @MB12116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that was charlevoix?

    • @ES-xc6fk
      @ES-xc6fk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MB12116 nope that was Elk river looking west as you cross the bridge on 31 heading south.

    • @MB12116
      @MB12116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ES-xc6fk but it’s near lake Charleroix right?

  • @jamieminton172
    @jamieminton172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless it is off season, in the lower forty eight you may as well embrace the crowd. I did much the same trek in the early 90's (East to West, North to South and a ferry to Alaska for good measure. Then back across Canada). There are off the beaten path places to be had in both cities and the country, but ya gotta go native to find them.

  • @MB12116
    @MB12116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that area. And you have to find a petsokey stone lol.

  • @agesolari
    @agesolari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great guys

  • @miket4548
    @miket4548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch for ticks out in those fields/ woods.

  • @Carl_Black
    @Carl_Black 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you got the chance to see Madeline island WI.

  • @mikesheahan6906
    @mikesheahan6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of these places were experiencing record crowds this summer due to the relaxation of Covid restrictions. Unfortunately you just ended up in it.

  • @mymortonisms
    @mymortonisms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dodges go well below the red line... At the red line... Where you can't tell the difference between the needle and the red line... You have about 30 miles before you're screwed.

    • @mymortonisms
      @mymortonisms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if you do run out you have a manual primer pump on the driverside of the motor under the steering shaft. Easier than pulling the fuel filter though. Takes quite a few pumps depending on how empty your filter is.

  • @idahosagebrush5662
    @idahosagebrush5662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be careful and carry extra fuel. Running that Dodge diesel out of fuel can make a $3000 sand dune recovery seem cheap. Fuel is the lubrication for the injector pump and it only takes a second without that and it's toast. I heard replacement pumps are now north of $4k, plus shop labor now. Several years ago it cost $2k for a rebuilt pump for my 2002 Dodge diesel.

  • @ronaldweider9288
    @ronaldweider9288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Silver lake sand dunes are more your speed and the ss badger is close by Traverse City is cool but only for the cherry festival when u get to Wisconsin try and find the hodag museum

  • @billdillard885
    @billdillard885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this vid you’s guys!!

  • @TimTimTomTom
    @TimTimTomTom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You didn't go to the big dune? Bummer, though there are people, it's a sight you should see (and climb) once in your life.

  • @user6619-k9t
    @user6619-k9t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my Cummins when the gauge is at that point I still have an hour and 15 minutes fuel at 65 mph. It goes another half division below empty. (Ask me how I know! lol!)

  • @ProspectingMonkey
    @ProspectingMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a Pasty you Fudgie! It's called macki "naw" Traverse city is the bomb Cherry Fest! Macki "nac" still has me laughing. A Fudgie is a tourist in Mackinac. Seriously make a necklace from a petoski stone! Btw Michigan is World Class Fishing! That's my old stomping grounds. Glad your Having fun! Michigan is a beautiful state!

    • @ProspectingMonkey
      @ProspectingMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should of told you to keep an eye for yooperlites stones too!

  • @jakeroth5809
    @jakeroth5809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should go to australia the place is wild and very few people

  • @svslipaway3534
    @svslipaway3534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aw jeez that truck had 50 miles left.

  • @dirtyfish6238
    @dirtyfish6238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are some beautiful rock in Mich. Do you tumble the rocks you find?

  • @mrroyce1138
    @mrroyce1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine that climb in Aug.

  • @sirfred2004
    @sirfred2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you go to the Traverse City Pie Company? It's very good if you like pie.

  • @seekerofallthingsfun2931
    @seekerofallthingsfun2931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a heads up , You have a running light out

  • @jodybruch829
    @jodybruch829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was fun...to watch🤣. Was the dune trail really 5 miles, like 3 miles as the crow flies? You two like blazing your own trails.

  • @thebillbaker4793
    @thebillbaker4793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello my friends, the lady named Kathy said the word Buku. First time I heard that word was In 1969 in a little country called Vietnam. Stay thirsty my friend.

  • @igobygio
    @igobygio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you hit Torch Lake!

  • @garyfroeschner2523
    @garyfroeschner2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuff

  • @CK-rr4nn
    @CK-rr4nn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in in the area and only go to the dunes in the winter.to many people.

  • @jacktaylor1030
    @jacktaylor1030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:50 FIFTY + YEARS AGO, MOST OF THAT GRASS DID NOT EXIST. THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT MORE SAND.