Timestamps: 00:00 - It begins /Today's Itinerary 04:02 - Homework: Taxi Driver, 13:22 - Falling Down, 19:57 - King of Comedy, 30:47 - You Were Never Really Here 36:20 - Dif: Ref., Insp., Homage or Ripoff 42:43 - Oscar Nominated Films: Lighthouse /Parasite /1917 (FAPPIES) 48:08 RalphtheMovieMaker Intro (1917's Lack of Women) 55:37 - Video Start /Joker CGI Beef 1:02:29 - >Evolved Spam 1:08:30 - >Jay Arrives Jay Watched it! 1:30:15 - Face Shot & Pay- off say-offs 1:37:10 - Cheap 1-D Characters 1:51:44 - -Subway- Iron Worm Sequence 1:57:11 - >Jerk Kids 2:00:10 - Su b tle KoC or Falling Down 2:15:11 - Joker & YWNRH Females 2:27:10 - >14 Yr old Children like BvS 2:33:34 - Drunk Acting In Fake Films 2:39:32 - >'Is something Funny?' 2:43:55 - Bad Takes, Corny Parasite 2:55:03 - Human Characters /Dreamlike 3:03:30 - Cartoonish Child Trauma Lies 3:07:46 - Ralph Lies 3:16:01 - -Un- Likely Events 3:32:03 - Dreamlike Gun /Bad Society 3:39:54 - Events in a Tight Universe (Joker Sequel?) 3:47:33 - Spiral Society 3:54:28 - Joker: A Corporate Superhero Film 4:11:26 - Good: A Citizen Boring Odyssey 4:32:30 - Sad Ralph /French Rags 4:42:26 - Hotdogler is Joker Meta /Music 4:47:16 - *Sad Violin* /Superhero IP 4:56:15 - 4 Year old 4Chan Bait in Disguise 5:01:55 - Artistic Intent Hunter 5:07:00 - The Batman Connection 5:09:14
Lessons learned from Ralph today: 1) realism can't have comedy 2) realistic dialogue must sound thought out and prepared for, like a speech 3) drunk guys on a subway in the middle of the night should sound like they're reciting poetry to sound realistic
I've heard people make jabs that the drunk asshole remembers Send In The Clowns too Well but I have sang a shit ton of Sinatra pretty well while blind drunk. My speciality is My Way.
How could Ralph be saying all of this pretentious bullshit? *Ralph went to film school* Ohh that makes sense Also Ralph: this isn't some artfull film, it's a corporate product made by Warner Bros to compete with marvel Todd Philips literally had to drag Warner Bros tooth and fucking nail into giving him funding to make Joker. What in fuck is Ralph talking about?
I dunno, seems Like a circle-jerky kind of thing... Now a colab between the two guys who made the "unbridled rage" and the "unbridled praise" Videos seems Like a good Idea to me... Subjectively, of course... (Also: the only time you read out one of my comments was when a sex-video bot reused them? I'm a sad man now :-( )
If you want to see more of Mooper, you should check out his Game Developers Essential Lessons Book series. Your videos are alright, but you could learn a lot from a TH-cam superstar like Mooper.
This stream got arbitrarily split into two sections by TH-cam again and since part 2 is almost entirely superchats, I figured I would give them different episode numbers. I will pop out the next one tomorrow. The Ralph coverage starts at around 56 minutes! we shall see yah 'round folks
For a while I wanted to destroy all furry's, put them in camps etc etc but Rags has destroyed that urge. He has destroyed my hate with film and TV criticism making me a loving person. I wanted to thank him but he's probably doing some degenerate filth with the local Chiwawa. Thank you Mauler for giving this dirty doggo a home. PS for the love of God neuter him.
The fact that EFAP is considering to review the Captain Marvel porn parody just to see if the story is better then the original Captain Marvel probably says enough about the movie itself.
@@bryanadam4578 Well I didnt really like the way they run ... which is probably due to bad footwear. They should have chosen better, compared to Brie "the plank" Larson these actresses ooze charisma though. Running isnt going to be the main "theme" of the movie though, so I count the footwear as a nitpick. The trailer for the new Wonder Woman movie has her in "pretty high heels" too and has the same "realism problem" which gets corrected by CGI.
If you make a review with well-supported arguments, the only people who will be salty in your comments are the ones who absolutely refuse to hear opinions they disagree with. BUT If you start off your video with "why did they put this breaking glass in here" or "children who disagree with me," then everyone is instantly angry with you and won't want to hear anything you say.
Yeah, generally when you have a hot take, you don't want to start your hot take with an insult of people who don't share your take. Its just a bad idea all around. Even if you're right, you'll probably be known as a prick. And people generally don't like watching pricks.
"Kids are dumb." "bUt ThEy'Re TeEnAgErS" The only difference between a kid and a teenager is that a teenager, or group or teenagers, might actually be strong enough to mug you.
To sum up Ralph's video: His friends made him feel stupid on a podcast for liking Joker. Now he feels the need to project his own insecurity onto everyone else who likes the movie. On a related note, I used to like the videos from the three members of Sardonicast. Somehow, since that show started, all three of them have become unbearable to listen to. Oh well...
Rock Mobster I would also like to add something else to sum up the video. Paraphrasing from another comment I put in JLongbone’s video of this. “You don’t know cinema, I know cinema. I’m a film student so I know what cinema is. I’m not into that mainstream stuff, I’m into indie and expiremental artsy films” As for SPL-316’s question. You’ll see that Ralph shift in opinion from liking the movie to hating is too huge of a shift in opinion. You don’t go from “it was pretty good” to “it’s formulaic, dull, superhero movie, it’s unoriginal and it’s the death of cinema”. That and the fact that Ralph’s criticism of the film boils down to “it’s corny and it’s bad” without explaining anything heavily suggests that his opinion was swayed by the sardonicast crew. And now he’s venting out his frustration of them making him feel stupid on his audience.
Rock Mobster I used to like the sardonicast crew too, but I can barely tolerate them now. They seem to value the “artsy” movies too much and they come off really aloof. Still appreciate IHE’s search for the worst though
We are lucky TLJ came out and unveiled all the wolves in sheep's clothing like sardonicast. They and so many others on YT convinced an audience they had something worth saying, until TLJ came around and forced them to chose between Hollywood politics and common sense, forced them to start twisting themselves into knots and somehow turn "art" into some post-modernist dribble devoid of even the very concept of objective standards just to defend it. The real shame is that some of them had some talent, but they refuse to let it get in the way of their standing with modern "artists", throwing all talent and common sense aside the moment anyone dares to critique something the "artists" tell them they should like.
*King Alfred the Great defeats the Vikings. After the battle, a young chronicler walks up to the famous King and says:* Ralph: Is this guy supposed to be Alfred? So sayeth the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, written by Ralplred the Unready.
I hate the comment about "it's not realistic, people wouldn't say this" or "People don't do this"...We live in a world where people go to stores, grab milk and slam it on the ground because they think it's funny. Where people can't even be bothered to use a toilet properly or clean up after themselves because it's "some one else's job". I've read/watched about kids cutting the ears off of puppies, lighting cats on fire and throwing rocks at dogs..FOR FUN...people here, now in OUR reality ARE assholes, who DO absolutely beat up random strangers for no reason (They're hitting people with bike locks and pulling elderly people out of cars just for wearing a hat they don't like) who harass strangers and who will absolute start shit just so they have an excuse to fight with some one.."No one would kill you for wearing a red shirt"....except in L.A where I've been shot at for being in the wrong part of town....(What about the police officers shot for just sitting in their cars simply for being police officers?) the point is EVERYTHING that happens to Arthur, the sign jumping, the guys on the subway, being made fun of on TV (Tosh.0, multiple late night with-) right down to treating terrible people as celebrities.... it happens right now, to people every day...so what about any of it is unrealistic?
Even when you cite real life examples of worse things happening for no reason to people they claim it's unrealistic that all of these happened to him. He's "conveniently" unfortunate. But things like that happen. Some people have exceedingly bad days or even lives that just keep piling more and more misery. Hell, there's the case of Roy Sullivan who was hit by lightning seven times, survived all of them and people started avoiding him for fear of getting struck by lightning. Reads like some anime side character or cartoon villain origin story, doesn't it. He isn't even close to being the most unfortunate man documented though. Unlikely doesn't mean impossible and the unlikely is likely to be what makes a good story.
´j́ust so they have an excuse to fight with some one.´ Exactly, some 1, against groups they're far less heroic, only when they have the numbers, like 5 to 1, they are tough. cough antifa.
@@yourarchnemesis8453 Sort of true, but film students at least have relevant studies. Games "journalists" are just glorified bloggers who couldn't recognize integrity and investigation even if they invaded their 'safe space'.
“Women of color, some bunch may refer to as a female “Ewok”, along with the delightful dwarves, still deserve the proverbial enbridled peen” - Bigideas
"Joker sucks because it's just a ripoff of Taxi Driver and King of Comedy." Five Minutes Later: "Joker sucks because it is fundamentally different in several key ways to both Taxi driver and Kind of Comedy." This is what happens when you fellate Martin Scorsese one to many times.
Ralph: This movie is for 14 year olds and only 14 year olds would like it Normal people: This movie is rated R and was nominated for 11 Oscars Ralph: Shut up plebeians
Lance Steel To be fair the Oscars don’t really matter. I love the Joker movie, but those awards are just popularity contests. And they rarely give the award to someone that deserves it. This a problem that’s been ongoing for more than 50 years.
Oscars? Hahahahahahaha! Did you forget about black panther also having bloody won oscars? As if that has bearing on the quality of a movie, what a fallacious attempt.
Haven Thompson Nope, never said that the Oscars determine the quality of a movie or prove artistic merit. All I was trying to do was discredit Ralph’s idea that the only people who would like this movie are 14 year olds who have never watched any art house films. Good job for taking down that straw man by the way and calling it fallacious. Couldn’t have done it without you.
@@docvince1491 I say the Oscars have been pretty good this year in terms of the animation department. I agree before that it was definitely a popular contest, but this year not well known but deserving films like Klaus, I Lost My Body and Missing Link got Oscar nomination and barely any Disney movies got nominated. I say it's improving.
ralph totally lost me when he compared Joker to batman v superman, like wtf lol it doesnt take a brain surgeon or a film school student to know those two movies are in completely different leagues. That's like saying Dark knight is the same as batman v superman because they're both dark super hero movies
if he thinks it's that bad then thats fine but he kept being condescensing to people who liked the movie which was a shame for me cause i liked the movie
Bootie Warrior yeah. This is something I’d never expect an actual, experienced film student to say. Just saying it really undermines his credibility among his own audience and audiences like EFAP’s. What happened, Ralph?
Given how much people misrepresent aspects of this movie, and blatantly make things up about other movies when trying to compare Joker as a inferior copy, I honestly believe that if the girlfriend being a illusion wasn’t spelled out in the film with the flashbacks that these same people would list it as another example of the world and people around Arthur being irrationally cruel. “Oh look, his girlfriend won’t even acknowledge she knows him now! We get it movie! Arthur has a “hard life”... but what about the struggles of that black single mother? She’s the real victim in all this!”
I think it's actually pretty obvious what happened with Ralph here. His criticisms are so superficial and he gets so many things wrong about the movie because he quite obviously didn't rewatch it for this review. The only reason he wouldn't do that is because he became so bitter and cynical about the movie, which probably came about because of how many people were haranguing him to review it while he wanted to do other things. Saying things like "it's a superhero film" and "it's supposed to be connected to the DCEU" can only happen if you literally don't remember a swathe of details from the film. So he came to hate the movie in the abstract because people wouldn't leave him alone about it, so he didn't rewatch it and instead slapped together this supremely shallow, spiteful video. This is most definitely the lowest low his content has ever hit.
I agree with you, i subscribed to him about a year ago because i liked his videos on the DCEU and Transformers and what not. When i saw this video i unsubbed and im not re-subscribing until i see a MASSIVE improvement.
When I heard that Ralph's video was bad, I had no clue that it was this bad. He keeps making so many factual errors and doesn't bring up enough supporting evidence for his claims.
Originally I was excited to see Ralph's video. I personally really like Joker but I'm always curious to hear differing opinions and Ralph's opinion is one I respect, but that video was awful. It's just awkward how it's literally slapped together and most every point is this strawman argument or kinda nonsense. I really hope it was a parody or something. Jesus.
Jay is wrong, Aluminum was the actual original spelling, but then scientific journals normalized aluminium. Because yes, that is the factoid that I focus on in this 5 and a half hour review of a ralphthemoviemaker take on joker.
I used to think the worst thing about Ralph was his annoying voice. Now, I’ve discovered that when he makes a bad video, he doesn’t JUST make a bad video; He shows what a devious, manipulative, snobbish, holier-than-thou attention seeking pity party he can really be. It’s really quite pathetic how terrible this video was, since it came from someone I know can make good videos. Wtf was this?
It reminds me of Just Write. I discovered him trhoguh his Hobbit videos and though he did a really good break down of how it failed, narratively. Then I saw his take on TLJ. Oh. My. Gosh. What a train wreck!
It this kind of attitude that just turns me away from watching Ralph videos anymore. He's not talking about actual problems in the film, he's talking about his own petty feelings about the film and it just ends up wasting time.
59:00 That's not CGI. It makes no sense for that to be CGI. It would cost a whole lot more to make this thing in CGI than to get a sleet of safety-glass that Hollywood has used for decades to do exactly this type of thing. Was it necessary? His life is shattering, it's a visual representation of his life... Does this guy even movies?
Well come on, we can't make the argument "it would be an absurd waste of money to do this in CGI, so they must not have done that" after the Caville Moustache Incident.
Let's be fair: Sugar glass prop and a method actor, versus whichever cgi substitute they'd use if incapable of doing it the "gud ol' way"..? If it's CGI, then so be it, however, it looks genuine as fawk and so either they had dedicated workers for the post process, or they did not use CGI.
The funny thing about Ralph calling people morons for thinking Citizen Kane boring is YMS in an argument even admitted that it was boring and repetitive(though technically well made) so he just called his co-host a moron.
This is like watching a GDELB using elements from the worst of the bad takes on Joker. It's no wonder the EFAP crew genuinely thought this might be a parody video. He either lies about or is maliciously obtuse about details to make the story/characters look worse, he calls it a ripoff of The King of Comedy/Taxi Driver while showing 'Wikipedia synopsis' level understanding of either film (he even said Rupert PUPKIN's name wrong, and that was a _recurring_ _joke_ in the film), and he sneers at it for being based on a comic book. The list goes on, and the EFAP crew pointed pretty much all of them out when they happened. When Quinton claimed that Rag'[_+s said that a movie is objectively without value if it sells toys, it was comical how obviously he was lying. Not just because of how easy it was to prove him wrong (the real clip played right beforehand), but because it sounded strange that Rag'/?=-s would say something so clearly wrong and stupid. But...damn. Here comes ralphthemoviemaker throwing out that "This Film Is An Unoriginal, Corporate Product", and it only succeeded because it had the Batman/Joker label attached to it. He directly cites its major studio backing and the profit it turned as evidence towards its lack of originality and artistic integrity. He practically writes out a bitter manifesto against the film and major studios in general. This is just bizarre. I wouldn't call myself a fan of Ralph's work, but generally what I've seen I thought was pretty good. But this? This is just awful.
According to Rock Mobster: To sum up Ralph's video: His friends made him feel stupid on a podcast for liking Joker. Now he feels the need to project his own insecurity onto everyone else who likes the movie. On a related note, I used to like the videos from the three members of Sardonicast. Somehow, since that show started, all three of them have become unbearable to listen to. Oh well...
@@chrisnemo6799 Probably the best evidence is that he covered a lot of the same points in the Sardonicast that included Joker. The coverage starts at 25:22 if you want to watch the Sardonicast to see for yourself.
@@electricbayonet2 Is that not proof that he's parodying what he feels to be bad takes? He hits EVERY SINGLE dishonest criticism people have made of Joker. Even the people who genuinely believed what they were saying didn't have all of them in their videos like this. He's not stupid, and I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he thinks his audience is, either.
Three possibilities exist. 1. This video is supposed to be serious, in which case Ralph is an angry moron, annoyed that he's allowing himself to succumb to peer pressure from his other moronic colleagues. 2. This video is supposed to be a parody/joke, on which case it fails because the delivery is trash, the message is muddled, and it's just poorly made from a video editing standpoint. If it's supposed to be a parody, it's supposed to be a parody of something, surely. It's a parody of nothing. The video is nothing. 3. The video is supposed to be Alfred.
Ralph made his career off of reviewing movies everybody knew were bad already, and when confronted with the prospect of reviewing a movie that is widely liked he completely drops the ball. Not because he didn't like it, but because it's so painfully obvious that he has no handle on how to actually evaluate any movies from an objective standpoint.
Nah I don't think that's it. I mean maybe, but honestly I feel like Ralph is in a Dark place probably being Drunk while Recording and Editing his Video. I believe it is because his Dream of becoming a Successful Filmmaker probably won't happen and because of that he is forced to keep reviewing movies which he obviously doesn't enjoy anymore.I think he is very much able to critize well. But of course none of this is proven he might just be out of touch who knows.
Michawk Walter he is like 19. If he already gave up on his dream he didn’t even try much. In your first years as a filmmaker you should just work on improving your craft. I’ve seen his films and they are terrible. He just needs to improve. I would kill for an audience like ralph.
Okay, its a really silly hill to die on. But if the glass didn't break it could be seen as some sort of metaphor for the situation he is in right then, his own actions being unable to make any real difference to the wider world. No matter how hard he struggles he can't make an impact. If it didn't break it hits home just how powerless he really is at that moment. "the glass is a metaphor for society" -bilfro boggins
So it's a directorial choice, and one where there's no wrong decision, just conveying a slightly (significantly?) different message. Though actually, it's more a choice of whether it represents Arthur situation or society, and neither is "wrong".
Au contraire. The glass, on the PHONEBOOTH, is a metaphor for Arthur’s ability to communicate with society. Due to miscommunication, he loses his job, which was his last tether to a regular life in society; when he loses that, he smashes the glass, making the interior truth plain in an exterior way, and also scarring that phonebooth for whomever uses it next; and what does Joker do next? He immediately kills 3 rich assholes regardless of their social standing, which becomes a flashpoint for society as a whole, making the interior truth of systemic class tension into a plain exterior phenomenon of rioting and public outcry. So the glass breaking is a microcosm of everything Joker does in the movie; to soil the corpse of what was supposed to help him, and destructively voice his pain in a way that no one can ignore. Also the glass is gay.
No, people definitely defend the sequels because they're star wars. Tons of reviewers literally say this. Anyone who says "it's a kids movie" is making this argument. It's good because brand. And that's 1000% the motivation behind defending it. They ONLY watched it and ONLY got hype for it because it has the same brand as the originals.
If it is a kids movie the. Why are you an adult watching it, and has an opinion on the movie or have an opinion on other adults watching a children's movie on
Star Wars and diversity. Yeah, had the sextism card thrown at me over TFA when pointing out the narrative issues of Kylo losing to Rey because, apparently, "a staff is a thrusting weapon and Rey's used to a staff, so she stabs with her sword and Kylo's technique, taught by Luke, is weak to thrusts."
@@anilin6353 because the ood star wars movies were good, so you expect a similar level of quality from the brand. Some people have brand loyalty no matter the quality. I do not.
I'm so glad I bailed years ago on Ralph and IHE. Their content just stopped being anything worth my time back then, to see what it's become now is just further reinforcing my decision.
Cody Lee I mean, his whole shtick is taking a topic, and attacking the weakest points to look better whilst pulling the “lol fanboys getting mad”, all his videos just kinda melt together
Ralph is just not that intelligent of a critic overall. He is able to analyze the technical elements of a film (mise-en-scene, camera work, lighting, editing) very well, but when it comes to the script and actual writing of the narrative, he is shallow most of the time. He is the typical film degree critic who gatekeeps and is really only knowledgable when it comes to the techniques. But as far as storytelling goes, is excessively mediocre and not reliable. The most annoying example being Patric Willems with his fucking condescending lessons like when he talks to his audience like children when he brings up continuity editing in Battleship Potemkin, which is fucking entry level shit you learn in your first semester earning a film degree. Ralph is similar, but his pretension is flat out stated in his actual scripts/monologues as seen with this video. I used to watch Ralph, but once I realized that he is shit when it comes to actual storytelling and writing, I stopped. He seems to value only subtlety like having subtlety in thematic elements is the one true key to quality entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if he hated Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films because they're "silly fantasy movies that aren't subtle like the works of Frederico Fellini." He really comes off as a kid fresh out of film school with a chip on his shoulder who looks down on the plebian movie goers. I personally have a minor in film, and was in classes with people like him for years.
@@xxsilentreatmentxx Exactly. He also apparently doesn't know that stories aren't completely about rooting for someone. You can be emotionally affected by a character and fascinated by them without actually rooting for them or their actions. My favorite example being Light Yagami from the Death Note manga and anime. I actually rooted for L because I thought he was more impressive since he only had human means to solve the case versus Light's Shinigami magic. However, Light is an amazing character and protagonist that I enjoyed every moment of following as he fascinated me to no end and I was heavily invested in seeing where his story headed and how it may conclude. Death Note just wouldn't work as well with L, the more morally laudable character, as the protagonist. This concept is at the heart of storytelling and characterization, narratives aren't just rooting for a character like a sports team.
MelanicDisaster They definitely tried making L a protagonist in one of the live action ones. I remember that movie being bizarre and moving away from the mystery and thriller genre. The only thing that I distinctly remember from that movie is L Naruto running.
@@Kaliospectre Lol, sounds like a mess. I own the complete manga collection and blu ray of the anime so I typically don't fuck with live action shit. I already have the two best ways for the story to be told. That's how I feel with live action remakes in general. I also own the complete Avatar: The Last Airbender series on dvd and I am not even slightly interested in the soon to be shitty live action Netflix version incoming. I have the holy grail already, why risk so much time and hope for what will most likely be a McDonald's cup in comparison, ya know?
MelanicDisaster True. That Death Note movie was the only one of the live action movies that I’ve seen of the franchise. I was over at my cousin’s house, saw that he owned a copy and I was curious enough to pop it in and give it a watch. Since he only owned THAT specific movie when he also has the anime, I imagine he bought it just to appreciate the sheer ridiculousness of that movie. One of those “it’s so bad, it’s good” movies for him.
I'm at 4½ hours and the funny thing, now that I've been reminded of it, is that Jebby Nichol's Joker video was actually more on point and informative about why the movie didn't work for her. Jebby didn't understand it; Ralph is actively lying about it.
Damn, that’s depressing. His fanboyism of Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver didn’t really work to his advantage, he lies that they copied it, while the cast and crew made no attempt to hide the reference to it😒 to quote Karl Jobst: “what a pathetic bitch”.
Damn, I had written off Family Guy as a mediocre unfunny show for normies. I've been seeing it referenced in interesting ways more and more lately. Maybe I'll add it to my "to watch" list, after the Simpsons.
In my opinion, people criticise Joker for four reasons: 1) They genuinely did not enjoy the film, which is absolutely fine 2) They're deliberately being a contrarian bc they're sick of all the praise the film is getting 3) They know that they're the type of people who would contribute to Arthur's downfall IRL so try to suppress that by claiming the movie had nothing to say about society. 4) They don't like the fact that there's not a clear cut good guy or bad guy in the film.
Well when watching king of comedy, you can see how lacking Joker can be in this type of story arc etc. I mean it's fun to see an almost joker parody version, but to be praised for things it just copy pasta'd sucks when there's things it might be praised for that it did well. 4/10
5) They're deliberately saying it's bad just to get clickbait-views and don't put any thought into their criti-tisms. I honestly don't know which one Ralph is in this case.
I find it ironic that this movie could possibly get people interested in the kind of film they like, but now they just act smug about it and diminish interest in artsy films by being exceptional dickheads
The most common complaint I always keep hearing is that it’s too shallow or just a rip off of taxi driver and king of comedy. People never elaborate on this points at all.
You know this feels sort of like the passing of the torch in a way. I remember when people like ralph and IHE were the most popular critics, but now they’ve morphed into fodder that the new critics (mauler and the efap crew) take apart for having shit points. It’s like watching evolution in action.
It's the circle of TH-cam life, a loveable and famous content crator starts sperging out of nowhere and/or starts putting their politics in front of everything, some nobody makes a video about them, becomes famous, fame rises to their head.......
@@Dodolord679 other than Dunkey and David Sandberg, their guests are infinitely worse: - Quinton Reviews - Chris Stuckman (twice) - Critikal - Needle Drop - Adam's fucking brother lol And without even realizing it I listed all they guests they ever had...
Much like how Joker has many different interpretations on what is or isn't real, Ralph's review has many different interpretations on what's satire or plain stupidity.
@@itsjustthemo well I like his other stuff, basically everything with him ranting about terrible Movies like Sleepless. Atleast he is somewhat likeable in these.
4:58:06 That green background means that the post is from 4plebs, a 3rd-party archive site, not from 4chan itself. The site's search shows you the most recent matches first. So, unless he skipped some results for some reason (not sure why he would, if he wanted to better prove the point he was making), the implication is that no one on that entire site, out of god knows how many millions of posts, has thought to mention this guy in the last two and a half years. _Making yourself look irrelevant to own the incels._
Was just about to comment this. Also literally every e-celeb will be shat on there if for nothing else then to bait the fanboys. Not expecting it is like being surprised when a reddit mod gets ousted as a kiddie fiddler.
Little Devil's Advocate here: Maybe he's been using that particular screen shot as a satirical 'proof' for the past 3 years? Like, every time he wants to say people are talking smack about him, he just throws that exact image up? I doubt he'd have that kind of persistence or foresight, but the potential exists that it's actually a clever running gag. Probably not though. It would be a funny joke, though, and decent bait for these moments.
01:44:00 I too deeply enjoyed the climax of the film for this reason. Murray isn't one-dimensional and honestly I could see his point of view. A lot of people like to paint him as this big asshole like Thomas Wayne, but it isn't so simple as it turns out. Yes, he ridiculed Arthur on television, which was no doubt a bad character move. But you see as soon as Joker meets Murray that he's just doing his job, and Murray actually treats Joker very well up until the interview. Murray's assistant scoffs at Joker, and Murray has to tell him to back the fuck off and to respect their guest. Very classy and it didn't come off as phony to me. The phony side of Murray was his showbiz side. Behind the curtain he seems like a very affable and kind man. Furthermore, in the interview, Murray is actually the voice of reason, despite his clear disconnect from Arthur's state of mind. Murray can't understand Joker, and that is perhaps a failing, but he's also right: Joker has no right to kill people and laugh about it. It's no laughing matter. But the Joker, of course, is so far gone his new, hellish point of view is crystallized: it is a laughing matter and he can prove it. Then BAM. It's so fucking good, and something of a prelude to Batman and the Joker's relationship. They simply cannot reconcile, and will not stop until the other is defeated and proven wrong.
whats really annoying is when stuff like this happens unintentionally. Dr Casper and Trench in the game Control get routinely shit on towards the end of the game, despite Casper doing basically everything right and Trench having a very good reason for acting how he did. Without spoiling much (because you really should play it) the FBC contains a kid who was exposed to an anomaly and basically has super powers, despite the circumstances Casper tries like hell to make sure the kid is as well off as he can be given the circumstances. (which, granted, still isn't great, but you also can't exactly let a highly traumatized teenager with superpowers just roam out in the world, they DO need special care, care that only the FBC could provide. And, even if we ignore that, it's not Casper who is saying the kid needs to be contained, meanwhile it IS Casper who tries to look after the kid as much as possible after he is contained) I really love the game but the protagonist's attitude towards Casper and Trench really does just piss me off.
Rags's's does not represent Rags's's' opinions. For reviewers, artists, writers, and the like if you're not prepared to take the good, the bad, and the ugly criticisms and figure out which is which, don't out yourself out there. Have some self-awareness and learn from your mistakes or be forever in ignorance.
Drunk Rags and Screaming Jay is the best thing that has ever happened and I am not going to quantify how that is because I am ralphthemoviemaker so I never do
Call me a contrarian but I think it took away from the stream. Rags talking in circles is pure torture. Their spots were wasted and could’ve been people that add to the conversation.
@@deeta000 Rags is the co-host. Its either him or no EFAP at all. Personally I thought it was amazing. He brought a lot to the discussion too, as well as some sweet anecdotes.
Do you know when you're looking at a film that you dislike, but it's getting praise everywhere, so much that it annoys you? And then, after that, you start to complain about every little thing being wrong with it, regardless of observable reality? This is what I think Ralph is doing. Don't get me wrong, I do this all the time, but that doesn't make it smart or correct.
This is probably the case. It's a shame that his current style is jumpy editing and strange jokes rather than letting himself explain his own points. I don't think it's terrible, but compare his best of the decade video to something like YMS' 2007 List, the latter is so much more clear.
Much as I've enjoyed Ralph's videos in the past, lately he seems to be unenthusiastic about doing any reviews and he often sounds bored and somewhat depressed. But in his Joker video he just comes across as extremely condescending, elitist and spiteful with his critiques that I couldn't even take him seriously by the end. It's one thing to not like the movie, which is fine, but to continually insult and talk down to the audience who like it is bad form for a critic.
RE: "The flashbacks revealing Arthur's girlfriend was imaginary were unnecessary - it was super obvious that she wasn't real. And the flashbacks just went on and on." The first time I saw the Joker, I missed that fact even with the flashbacks because I dropped my soda. Thanks to the distraction, I missed the specific dialog of the scene, but I got the tone - that she had an apprehensive/repulsed reaction to something Arthur did or said, so I only knew they were no longer on solid footing, possibly broken up. And then she doesn't show up in the rest of the movie. I didn't realize the relationship was imagined until a few days later, when the eFAP talking about Joker spoilers aired. That's how brief the flashbacks were.
One good thing I can say about Ralph's video is that, everyone called him out on how bullshit it was. It was great to see some much honesty and criticism from his fans for once. Unlike Jeb Nic's video who was protected in the comments by walls and walls of White Knights. If we don't criticize our favorite reviewers for making mistakes, they'll never learn and get better.
Ralph also does something in this review that is *extremely* disingenuous that I've seen a lot of people do recently when formulating their "criticism." He comes out and claims that the movie is a shallow, corporate product. *His critiques are then tailored to match this manufactured premise.* It's a conceptual straw man that's very easy to miss, but he says the movie is superficial and simple, and then makes all sorts of simple, superficial criticisms. He doesn't examine clips or give arguments to prove his points with any depth because according to his straw man premise, there's nothing deeper to analyze. It is *so easy* to get misled by this type of "analysis" and argumentation if you find yourself agreeing with the base premise of a vdieo like this, regardless of what is being reviewed. He may not even realize it's what he's doing, but damn is it bad.
@@orande9916 Not quite. Poisoning the well is when you state your conclusion as conclusively as possible and then argue backwards from it, which can fool people into thinking it has been proven, when really, when you start at a conclusion and work backwards, all you're going to do is prove it via confirmation bias. If you're being negative, you would be prepping people to hate something rather than working forward towards your conclusion by making arguments progressively. He is making superficial arguments, but justifies that shallow preponderance by saying that the movie is superficial. It's really just excuse-making for laziness, but if people buy into that excuse or don't know any better, they're not going to notice.
Because in his eyes anything that gets released outside of a film festival and had a budget larger than some spare change in the couch cushions is a mainstream sellout. A common pretentious film student take.
Geek Chorus that still sounds pretty huge to the layman. But for a major Warner Bros film release, that’s basically _pocket change!_ Ralph’s really demonstrating his acclaimed film knowledge, isn’t he?
What is with the Joker movie that makes these professionals reviewers make these incredible half-ass videos with bare bone arguments about how bad the film is, even though most arguments don't hold up and most of them are the results of their own bias?
It has a white male lead angry with the state of things made in 2019, thats it thats all it needs to be to inspire these lunatics to anger. If the movie had been the same but with more "fuck the whiny manbaby incel" overtones or a black or female protagonist itd be a critical hit (but a box office flop of course)
@@nilktots6380 Although I'd agree that not all their criticisms are very strong, I don't think changing the protagonist's race or gender would change their attitudes. Hype journalists would have calmed down though.
@@tomcfarrell if you mean wouldnt change the protag's attitude i agree, if you mean the critics, no theyd go head over heels for a violent black protagonist portayed sympathetically, Oh if you mean my "but itd bomb of course" thats because i assume in this hypothetical scenario if joker was black and or female to appease journalists and critics the film would pander in more ways than that, there are some people who would boycott the movie if it was the exact same but with black joker and maybe some things happen to him at least partially because of racism, dunno how many
@@nilktots6380 I meant critics in Ralph's circle wouldn't change their opinions on the movie, maybe you're right and some less credible ones out there would though. Although if the character's race is hardly a factor in their character and in the movie, then I think a boycott because of it would be just as illogical.
@@tomcfarrell if you mean ralphs youtube circle maybe but if you look at reviewers they flock to things with messages they like regardless of how theyre liked by the general public or how well they line up with how they otherwise review movies
@Jebalita BattleBush God, this is just like you 14 YO Incels. It’s in the DCEU, therefore it’s just another superhero movie. You don’t use descriptors to define what’s actually in the film, you use them to demonise the film you’re reviewing as much as possible. But I shouldn’t be surprised when Joker is exactly the same as BvS. Y’know - the film with different pacing, writing, directing, marketing, action, themes and tone. They’re totally the same and you dumb kids keep eating it up! Whereas *I* only watch French films with a budget of $200. I’m better than you and my Film Studies Degree MEANS SOMETHING DAMMIT!!!
I agreed with him in that this was gonna be one of those movies where everyone is unrealistic huge dick. Disagree with most of everything else he said.
Sort of seems like the people who hate the movie usually fall into two groups. They either hate it because it's a comic book movie or they hate it because it's about a white guy with problems. Of course, I'm not saying everyone who dislikes the movie has those exact reasons, but it's the two I see pop up the most.
@@SelfPityEntertainment There's a minority third who enjoyed Joker's influences more. People who would rather watch Taxi Driver or King of Comedy, I mean genuinely not like Ralph who just wants to fellate himself.
I actually realized something interesting about Ralph while watching his review of The Joker. He isn’t a good film critic. He’s a great comedian. I mean, think about it. What’s your favorite Ralphthemoviemaker video? For most people, it’s going to be Mystery Diners, Bigfoot, Ghost Shows, Suicide Squad. The reason these reviews are so much better than the Joker review, is because it’s so obvious why the other subjects are bad, that you don’t even have to be good at film criticism to explain it. What made Ralph so great wasn’t that he made a really in depth interesting video about fucking Bigfoot Shows. It’s that he was funny in those videos, and you could tell he put a lot into them. One of the problems with the Joker review, is the fact that he put in zero effort, and it was marginally less funny than the other work he’s put out. He didn’t care, something he states throughout the video, and it makes me question why he made it in the first place. It’s this combination of lack of effort and lack of proper critique that really fucks him over. At least if this video had been as entertaining as his older ones, I wouldn’t have turned it off halfway in. I hope Ralph just takes a break and comes back as his old self, because watching his Joker review was just sad.
That's honestly the biggest problem with this review from Ralph. He didn't seem to care to make a proper review of Joker so it just comes off as lazy and apathetic.
Wait,wait,wait was he ever funny? I always thought it's the other way around, horrible comedian, but goodish movie critic. Sleepless and Nine lives are pretty much an example of the comedy, repeating one or similar clips thoughout the video, have an over the top reaction to a scene and making a terrible skit at the end. When I saw the mystery diners video I laught more on the show itself instead of what Ralph added. The Gotti video to me would be an example of his interesting critism. So again I am genuinly interested if this guy was ever funny? Considering how tiring some of his videos are.
So he has the Nostalgia Critic problem. Pretentious film student who found their niche in comedy reviews but is actually unable to do an entertaining in depth review.
Bat Croft22 meh, maybe I just like his style of humor more because I have brain damage. But I’ve always found him a better entertainer than a reviewer.
Maybe, but the part about Martha Wayne doesn't hold water.... because at the end Joker walks out of the room with blood on the bottom of his shoes leaving footprints implying he attacked the lady therapist in the room.
@@wrayday7149 Yeah, but he doesn't even know Martha Wayne. I don't know that he's ever even seen Martha. He has no reason to hold anything against her at all, especially since it's not clear if he does or doesn't believe that Thomas Wayne is his father (he was looking at the photo signed by TW while clowning up, after all), so we don't even know his exact feelings about Thomas. However, he does dislike social worker lady because she never paid any attention to him or helped him in any way. She was supposed to help him, and all she did was ask the same questions over and over again and nothing ever got any better. You can argue that she wasn't qualified and she doesn't like it either, but we don't know that Arthur knows about that or if he thinks that it would excuse her behavior anyway even if he did.
@@brofist1959 Yeah but he doesn't kill her... someone else does, and he just laughs about the whole situation... I am guessing the movie is shot as him retelling everything thru his perspective to the lady and we catch up to it at the end..... and the entire time he is telling her everything bad that has happened to him all she wanted to know was did he feel bad for a rich kid losing his parents.... which reinforced his deep hatred of people not caring/listening to him and he offs her and tries to escape.
The trippiest part of Joker for me is how much is real and how much is in Arthur's head.... was he in the asylum the entire time reading/watching the news and fantasizing the entire event a la Sucker Punch or did it all happen the way the film shows? This film is indeed Good Rat!
I love how he says that obviously Joker is void of artistic integrity and creativity due to its budget but praises 2001 as an example of intellectual and artistic ground breaking film while its budget would be higher than Joker's when considering inflation. Kinda debunked your own point there champ.
One of the criticisms of Ralph’s I genuinely cannot understand is his take on the other characters. He criticizes how none of the female characters are that important, and really just serve as a means for Joker. Like... yeah? That’s kind of the point. The film isn’t called ‘Joker and Friends’, it’s called Joker. The film is about HIM. Honestly, how important is any character that isn’t Travis in Taxi Driver? The film was meant to be a character study focused on one specific character. So why is the fact that the other characters aren’t as good a critique? The film is meant to revolve around Joker specifically
guldmatt BB i agree with you. However, i think that in taxi driver the little girl was important as well as the girl he was obsessed with.( sorry I don’t remember there names)
jfuchs14 Actually, that’s a pretty good point. Still, nonetheless, they both only existed to further Travis’ story as well. Albeit, they’re more than 2D, the point still stands that they merely exist to further Travis’ story
There was a time where I enjoyed Ralph, where he wasn't a critc and just some dude ripping into mystery diners or its the nutshack. Kinda how I saw IHE before his uploads to his main channel became a ghost town. These creators were good when they weren't putting their opinions above everyone else making shitty arguments and stuff
Ghost walker Games they’re good as they make fun of dumb shit. And can make jokes about it. Like you do with friends I really don’t care about their options in movies for the same reason - it’s what by friends say ‘ itwas boring’ ‘I didn’t like it’ ‘too slow’ That’s why I don’t watch them anymore
For someone who watches Ralph a fair bit, this review felt like some sort of Evil Ralph made it. All the qualities that normal Ralph has were just amplified and twisted into a gruesome parody of himself. Or maybe he just needs a break. He's sounded like he's needed a break for months now.
@@jedibrooks7235 I can understand that, still I suggest checking out a few of his other videos, they can get pretty funny, like the dog movie he reviewed
This channel has more film criticism and is far better than ralphthemoviemaker in my subjective opinion. Also as a DC fan I really disliked Justice League but I've liked everything else.
I left one of the comments on Ralph’s video that you read out in the second part of the stream (the one about Parasite.) Left it after I gave up on his video at the ten minute mark. It somehow blew up and sparked a several comment long debate about Joker.
Also when talking about how things follow logically, the guys who wrote south park did a lecture somewhere about storytelling. The big thing that they pushed is "But, Therefore" Meaning that each action should be either contrary to, or in reaction to, an action. So Joker is working with a sign, but it is taken by kids, therefore he is afraid and on a final warning, but his friend gives him a gun for protection, therefore he gets fired, but he is attacked on a subway, therefore he fights back with it.... etc. etc. etc.
"Travis Bickle isn't human because he can't seem to hold a conversation and sort of just hangs around, even around his colleagues." Guess I'm not a human then. Just because a character isn't relatable to you, or because they possess characteristics that aren't normal does not make them inhuman. In fact, that's the point. There are people out there who are like that, who are socially distant, who do not function normally. Taxi Driver depicts who someone like this, who is unstable and capable of doing reckless, abnormal things could be the person behind both heroes and villains.
Taxi Driver has only become more relevant in a world of mass shootings. It feels like Scorsese predicted stuff like Mark David Chapman, and there's also the catcher in the rye connection. Travis has a lot in common with Holden Caulfield. Isolated from others and living in the fantasies of his mind. Travis is a racist and slowly descends into a full-blown psycho by the end of the movie. What I always found so compelling was watching that process unfold in a setting that feels like hell on earth. There's actually a lot of people like Travis, and they are very dangerous because they lose their grasp on reality. In my own personal experience, I've met dozens of people who can't hold conversations and just "hang around" people at work. Humanity is not dictated by your skills as a conversationalist.
I like Ralph's content quite a lot, but this video is just downright awful. If you read the comments on this channel, it implies a majority of his fans agree. It's odd to me why he made this video as it's inconsistent with even his more negative videos, the two theories of him being pressured because he was berated for liking the Joker and that he was drunk when he made it holds some weight. I don't understand why he has kept it up or not addressed why he made the video as is. Especially since he went back to his normal content afterwards.
3:00:00 I think he’s referencing the fan theory that Arthur imagines the rest of the movie from the point he gets into the fridge. He dies there according to the theorists. Would’ve been nice if he’d explained that though. Comes off a bit incoherent.
You're not supposed to relate to Travis Bickle. Who even made this claim? He is a blank guy, a weirdo, self-pitying creep etc. Some people like him exist and Taxi Driver is showing what could happen with that kind of person, from where these political assassins or similar figures come from. The movie presents the character in a neutral way, it's stays subtle and doesn't force the viewer to either hate him or sympathise with him and leaves his motivations to interpretation. The filmmakers weren't on his side and that's clear from various interviews but they weren't fully demonizing him either. Joker on the other hand, though it has its great subtler parts and audience engaging ambiguousness, is too on the nose sometimes. It's a different story and a different character but the movie tries too hard to make you feel sorry for Arthur. I wish creators knew where to draw a line when it comes to exposition level too. The main character shouting out the movie's thesis in a pivotal scene and that unnecessary flashbacks spelling out that the neighbour wasn't real are good examples of 'too much'. I still think that Joker is a fantastic film with interesting concept done in a distinctive and compelling style and contrary to some opinions - it's not dumb or pointless, it's way smarter than some movie snobs (not all the people that have some knowledge on movies - it did well with critics outside USA and won The Golden Lion) and film twitter want it to be but that's another story. On the Joker vs Taxi Driver - I liked both, one did better with certain aspects, the other did better with different ones.
Taxi Driver does not present Travis Bickle in a neutral way. It is literally an expressionist piece, meaning it is entirely subjective and all we are presented with are Travis' point of view. The relatability element comes in when Travis' environment is pitted against him. There are countless scenes of thiefs, sex workers and pimps doing absolutely repellent things roaming around the streets of New York and that is where you empathise with Travis, he is trapped in hell with no friends, family or lover. As for the pacing, on multiple rewatches, every scene in the film contributes to the overall substance in adding to the atmosphere of the repulsive streets of New York or furthers Travis' motivation although some of those can and will go over your head on first viewing (like how Travis watches the romance drama TV program and relates it to his inability to be comfortable around women (Betsy)) and the immaculate Hermann score as well as the sublime cinematography give the film a unique, recognizable and gripping atmosphere (although that is a subjective assessment, I felt the need to include it to explain how it makes the long draging scenes that the crew complained about actually quite engaging. As far as the big writing complaint on Travis' unexplained motivation for wanting to kill Palantine, it can be explained in various ways. For one he is a sexual rival of his, as Palantine is described by Betsy as a desirable man and although Travis may have not heard this bit of dialogue but there are various scenes of him getting acquainted with Palantine's character through television. The film also makes it clear that Travis comes from a religious background and he sees New York City as a sort of hell filled with sin and his view of Betsy, a blonde dressing in exclusively white clothes, is one of an Angel, a symbol of purity that he must free from the City's grasp and Palantine is the one whom Betsy is linked to. There is also another argument that I read about that can also alter your perspective of Travis' motivation for killing Palantine regarding anti-imperialism views that you can find here : cineprism.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/embedded-the-anti-imperialism-in-taxi-driver/. I had originally intended this to be a reply to your comment but I ended up adressing some of Rags' criticisms about the writing and pacing of the film as well as what makes Travis Bickle relatable (not likeable !). I do understand the criticisms as Taxi Driver can be a tedious first watch, I wasn't huge on it myself, but after gaining a sufficient understanding of the script, Taxi Driver becomes one of the most rewatchable picture I've ever seen. Its status as one of the greatest movies of the 70s and the greatest first person character study is absolutely justified and, while Joker was a very well done film, I think it's unfair to compare it to Taxi Driver.
The obvious bias Ralph is showing against Joker is due to the fact that it made a ton of money. I don't know the exact numbers but there is no doubt in my mind that during the time Joker was in theatres, it made more money than King of Comedy and Taxi Driver combined. And because he likes those films more than Joker, he felt the need to go on a crusade against the film. That is the only reason I can find to explain the childish temper tantrums he throws randomly throughout the video as well as literally making up themes and plot points within the movie that are obviously false and also building 100 metre tall strawmen left, right and centre. His video is filled with salt.
@vns P I don’t even think he likes those films more than Joker. He just didn’t like Joker and need to prove what a -cunty snob- film connoisseur he is and reference the movies no one would know about unless Todd Philips had said he was inspired by them, so people would know he’s seen the real films, not the cheap, modern knockoff with money and no soul.
@@Longshanks1690 I can see that being the case as well yeah. I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt though. I haven't seen Ralph being involved in any other controversies so I guess I didn't want to go that far.
Christopher Marlowe eh that’s not accurate, YMS didn’t say he bangs animals. His words were along the lines of “if other people want to, and it doesn’t hurt the animal then it should be fine”. Yeah that’s still pretty weird but don’t exaggerate the truth
@@jebalitabb8228 I dunno, him advocating for bestiality really isn't higher on the moral scale than if he were to actually partake in it. I'd argue they're on the same level of bad.
Literature Devil brings up Romeo and Juliet for how you can know how a movie ends without that detracting from the story, without pointing out: it literally opens with someone explaining how they die at the end.
Just to add on: Every Greek tragedy opens with the chorus telling you how the story ends. (The interest is in how you get there.) It’s actually a defining characteristic of Greek tragedies
This is the first time in my life that I heard ANYONE have anything negative to say about Taxi Driver. I felt exactly the way Mauler and Rags described what they felt. Every word mirrors how I felt. So many people call it their favorite movie. Three guys made me sit through this damn thing, each on a date, because they wanted to see it again so much and I wanted to please them. Each time, I hated it. And I thought there was something wrong or stupid about me that I didn't "get it." Then I thought maybe it was a movie only guys could appreciate - but is there such a thing?? I thought they would think I was a "dopey chick" for not idolizing it so I kept my mouth shut. It was SO SATISFYING to hear this. Thank you guys so much!! I love you RAGS and MAULER - you are my hero's!!
Timestamps: 0:00 - LateManBad. Introductions. The Phantom Guest. Man Who Stares At Clowns. 4:00 - Movie Homework. MauLer & Waggg's'sss's'z Bad "Taxi Driver" Takes. 16:00 - "Falling Down." 20:00 - "King of Comedy." 23:25 - Phantom Endings. 30:48 - "You Were Never Really Here." Which is the closest to Joker? 36:30 - Homage vs Rip-Off. 42:50 - Oscar Noms. "JoJo Rabbit." "Lighthouse." "Parasite." "1917." 48:00 - The Main Event. With preview Tisms. 55:30 - The Video Begins. CGI sugar-glass techniques. 1:08:30 -> Jay Enters, and still hasn't seen any movies. 1:12:00 - Comicbook movies, Ratings, and Tisms. Honest Opinions and Children. 1:24:55 - Jay has finally seen a movie. 1:38:38 - Ralph The Racist and Character Dimensions. 1:51:45 - Bigideas: On Comedy. The anti-simple movie plot. Joker's amazingly consistent plot. Kids are stupid assholes 2:00:15 - King of Comedy's subtletisms. 2:22:22 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had multiple beers. 2:39:30 - "Is something funny, asshole?" 2:53:00 - Dimensional Characters and Dreamlike Logic. 3:14:09 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had 3 beers. 3:35:25 - We Live in a Society. 3:47:30 - Character Agency. Did Ralph even watch the movie? The Insanity Font. 3:52:35 - Many = 2. Good Acting. Ralph didn't like the movie. 4:00:00 - Terrible Editing. Consistently Lying. Comedy & Maturity are not dichotomous. 4:06:13 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had *_four_* beers. 4:11:45 - Why Ralph is an idiot. With a side of "mature" comedy. 4:16:10 - Waggg's'sss's'z has _definitely_ had four beers. Citizen Kane is boring, and other Feelingtisms. You have to read books about the movie to appreciate it if it's good. 4:25:20 - Psychoanalyzing Ralph the Gatekeeper. 4:30:30 - Giving Waggg's'sss's'z peanut butter, and Freedomizing words. Also: Germany won't stop invading places. 4:33:15 - Ralph the FlipFlopper. Critictisms, Cheese, and Frenchtisms. 4:42:00 - Ralph the MetaNarrator gets swayed by Killer Crocotisms, and Hotdogglertisms, and musictisms. 4:48:40 - Ralph the MovieBob assassinating Jay. Freedomizing "banal." Soulless Photocopy Oscar-bait in Disguise. 4:57:50 - Ralph responds to his critics … from 3 years ago. 5:01:55 - Artistic Intent and Ralph the Jay Baumann. The Merry Goes Round Again. The Bat Connection. 5:09:15 - Is this supposed to be Alfred? 5:22:55 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had 3 _Tequilas._ 5:30:05 - Tism Overload.
It's honestly been a while since I've seen a Ralp review, but I don't recall them ever being so...depressing? Heck, it doesn't even feel like Ralph, tbh, or maybe his older stuff was similar, but because the targets were films most people hated or thought were not great, they didn't feel as bad. I wonder what happened that convinced him that the film was not great at all? Like him bringing up old films that are recognized as the "Golden Standard" for cinema is just him showing off that he went to film school and that Hollywood thinks old films that revolutionized the medium can hold up in today's market, despite film evolving beyond what the standards were back in the 60's. I really hope Sardonicast isn't turning him into a cynical person.
Timestamps:
00:00 - It begins /Today's Itinerary
04:02 - Homework: Taxi Driver,
13:22 - Falling Down,
19:57 - King of Comedy,
30:47 - You Were Never Really Here
36:20 - Dif: Ref., Insp., Homage or Ripoff
42:43 - Oscar Nominated Films:
Lighthouse /Parasite /1917 (FAPPIES)
48:08 RalphtheMovieMaker Intro
(1917's Lack of Women)
55:37 - Video Start /Joker CGI Beef
1:02:29 - >Evolved Spam
1:08:30 - >Jay Arrives Jay Watched it!
1:30:15 - Face Shot & Pay- off say-offs
1:37:10 - Cheap 1-D Characters
1:51:44 - -Subway- Iron Worm Sequence
1:57:11 - >Jerk Kids
2:00:10 - Su b tle KoC or Falling Down
2:15:11 - Joker & YWNRH Females
2:27:10 - >14 Yr old Children like BvS
2:33:34 - Drunk Acting In Fake Films
2:39:32 - >'Is something Funny?'
2:43:55 - Bad Takes, Corny Parasite
2:55:03 - Human Characters /Dreamlike
3:03:30 - Cartoonish Child Trauma Lies
3:07:46 - Ralph Lies
3:16:01 - -Un- Likely Events
3:32:03 - Dreamlike Gun /Bad Society
3:39:54 - Events in a Tight Universe
(Joker Sequel?)
3:47:33 - Spiral Society
3:54:28 - Joker: A Corporate Superhero Film
4:11:26 - Good: A Citizen Boring Odyssey
4:32:30 - Sad Ralph /French Rags
4:42:26 - Hotdogler is Joker Meta /Music
4:47:16 - *Sad Violin* /Superhero IP
4:56:15 - 4 Year old 4Chan Bait in Disguise
5:01:55 - Artistic Intent Hunter
5:07:00 - The Batman Connection
5:09:14
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"I agree with Satan. There is no honesty here."
- Rags, 2020
"Man, when even Satan is calling you a liar"
-Rag''''z
There is no honesty just like there is no punchline, it's not a joke.
Nick King we all agree with a Satan just a little
~ 3:15:30
Lessons learned from Ralph today:
1) realism can't have comedy
2) realistic dialogue must sound thought out and prepared for, like a speech
3) drunk guys on a subway in the middle of the night should sound like they're reciting poetry to sound realistic
Robertino Tanos Ralph is a moron.
@@NeoCreo1 Ralph's a pretentious snob
I've heard people make jabs that the drunk asshole remembers Send In The Clowns too Well but I have sang a shit ton of Sinatra pretty well while blind drunk. My speciality is My Way.
Did he learn who's supposed to be Alfred?
I miss laughing at his videos but also coming away learning something. But, at least I can still do that for eleven whole hours with EFAP
How could Ralph be saying all of this pretentious bullshit?
*Ralph went to film school*
Ohh that makes sense
Also
Ralph: this isn't some artfull film, it's a corporate product made by Warner Bros to compete with marvel
Todd Philips literally had to drag Warner Bros tooth and fucking nail into giving him funding to make Joker. What in fuck is Ralph talking about?
he's always kind of been pretentious, its just far more apparent recently
Nathan Sanders Imo, it was very artistic with the shots and the setting of the dark and gritty city of Gotham.
I think I should collab with this "Mooper" guy, he makes some great arguments.
I dunno, seems Like a circle-jerky kind of thing...
Now a colab between the two guys who made the "unbridled rage" and the "unbridled praise" Videos seems Like a good Idea to me...
Subjectively, of course...
(Also: the only time you read out one of my comments was when a sex-video bot reused them? I'm a sad man now :-( )
Somehow I envision "Mooper" looking as a combination of cleaning mop and straw broom with a gas mask on it.
If you want to see more of Mooper, you should check out his Game Developers Essential Lessons Book series. Your videos are alright, but you could learn a lot from a TH-cam superstar like Mooper.
MauLer Is this supposed to be MauLer?
Seems like an objectively good idea.
This stream got arbitrarily split into two sections by TH-cam again and since part 2 is almost entirely superchats, I figured I would give them different episode numbers. I will pop out the next one tomorrow. The Ralph coverage starts at around 56 minutes! we shall see yah 'round folks
55:28
Of course jay was late and gay. #KickJay
Ayyy MauLer. You gonna check out Elvis the Alien's Star Wars video? He takes a couple snipes and makes a few points I think could be addressed.
Just separate episodes into parts.
For a while I wanted to destroy all furry's, put them in camps etc etc but Rags has destroyed that urge. He has destroyed my hate with film and TV criticism making me a loving person. I wanted to thank him but he's probably doing some degenerate filth with the local Chiwawa. Thank you Mauler for giving this dirty doggo a home. PS for the love of God neuter him.
The fact that EFAP is considering to review the Captain Marvel porn parody just to see if the story is better then the original Captain Marvel probably says enough about the movie itself.
You have a link to that? I would like to........ research it before they cover it so that I know what they are talking about 😂
@@sammydray5919 Here is a link to the trailer th-cam.com/video/TLsPQxQ7PY8/w-d-xo.html ... everything else is up to you on not-youtube-hub.
It was the same with Star Trek movies a generation ago
@@Muck006 You are the MVP here.
@@bryanadam4578 Well I didnt really like the way they run ... which is probably due to bad footwear. They should have chosen better, compared to Brie "the plank" Larson these actresses ooze charisma though. Running isnt going to be the main "theme" of the movie though, so I count the footwear as a nitpick.
The trailer for the new Wonder Woman movie has her in "pretty high heels" too and has the same "realism problem" which gets corrected by CGI.
"Who are you?"
"I'm Rey."
"Rey who?"
_looks off into the distance_
"...Are you supposed to be Alfred?"
Now THAT is some good rat!!
Rey'd Shadow Legions
@@Awootistic did you know alfred has 1 million concurrent players and a 5 star rating
Alfreyd
MaRey AlfredSue
If you make a review with well-supported arguments, the only people who will be salty in your comments are the ones who absolutely refuse to hear opinions they disagree with.
BUT
If you start off your video with "why did they put this breaking glass in here" or "children who disagree with me," then everyone is instantly angry with you and won't want to hear anything you say.
Then maybe they should grow a spine
@@BLARG313
Imagine being a Ralph Sepe fan.
@@tommymecousinlostmecar4165 I like most of Ralph's content but that joker video is nostalgia critics the wall levels of bad.
Yeah, generally when you have a hot take, you don't want to start your hot take with an insult of people who don't share your take. Its just a bad idea all around. Even if you're right, you'll probably be known as a prick. And people generally don't like watching pricks.
@@BLARG313 maybe stop simping for an idiot.
Will Smith Deadshot: “What are we? Some kinda... is this supposed to be Alfred?”
"Kids are dumb."
"bUt ThEy'Re TeEnAgErS"
The only difference between a kid and a teenager is that a teenager, or group or teenagers, might actually be strong enough to mug you.
People in general are dumb. The only difference is that adults should be old enough to know better.
And most teenagers are straight up jerks too
…………and their age
“Whatjabringme!?!”
*puts item on the table*
“Is that supposed to be Alfred?”
Tired Idealist Thanks. I’m sure it will get its spotlight in due time though.
Very nice. I give you 10 out of 10 rhino milks.
Dilip Tomar Thank you, good sir. I hope to have appeased the Don with my offering.
a daring synthesis
Oh god this has to be at the end of a Batwhamen episode reaction
Plato: "I know that I know nothing"
Ralph: "I made 3 short films with my brother and friends - I know more than everyone".
Wow what an intelligent comment
Pieminator this needs more likes!
That was Socrates, not Plato, close
@@vidmastereon You're right... Shorter version of what Socrates originally said, made by Plato.
@Robertino Tanos Robert please chill Ralph doesn't need you defending him
To sum up Ralph's video:
His friends made him feel stupid on a podcast for liking Joker. Now he feels the need to project his own insecurity onto everyone else who likes the movie.
On a related note, I used to like the videos from the three members of Sardonicast. Somehow, since that show started, all three of them have become unbearable to listen to. Oh well...
Do you have any evidence of this? I'm genuinely curious.
Is Sardonicast supposed to be Alfred?
Rock Mobster I would also like to add something else to sum up the video. Paraphrasing from another comment I put in JLongbone’s video of this.
“You don’t know cinema, I know cinema. I’m a film student so I know what cinema is. I’m not into that mainstream stuff, I’m into indie and expiremental artsy films”
As for SPL-316’s question. You’ll see that Ralph shift in opinion from liking the movie to hating is too huge of a shift in opinion. You don’t go from “it was pretty good” to “it’s formulaic, dull, superhero movie, it’s unoriginal and it’s the death of cinema”. That and the fact that Ralph’s criticism of the film boils down to “it’s corny and it’s bad” without explaining anything heavily suggests that his opinion was swayed by the sardonicast crew. And now he’s venting out his frustration of them making him feel stupid on his audience.
Rock Mobster I used to like the sardonicast crew too, but I can barely tolerate them now. They seem to value the “artsy” movies too much and they come off really aloof. Still appreciate IHE’s search for the worst though
We are lucky TLJ came out and unveiled all the wolves in sheep's clothing like sardonicast. They and so many others on YT convinced an audience they had something worth saying, until TLJ came around and forced them to chose between Hollywood politics and common sense, forced them to start twisting themselves into knots and somehow turn "art" into some post-modernist dribble devoid of even the very concept of objective standards just to defend it.
The real shame is that some of them had some talent, but they refuse to let it get in the way of their standing with modern "artists", throwing all talent and common sense aside the moment anyone dares to critique something the "artists" tell them they should like.
*King Alfred the Great defeats the Vikings. After the battle, a young chronicler walks up to the famous King and says:*
Ralph: Is this guy supposed to be Alfred?
So sayeth the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, written by Ralplred the Unready.
@JoeRingo118 The vikings were unrealistically Norse.
The vikings didn't have any fleshed out women in their forces. (and I've seen fleshed-out Viking women. Still hot.)
@@Trollificusv2 This usage of "fleshed-out" sounds a lot like "disemboweled"
I hate the comment about "it's not realistic, people wouldn't say this" or "People don't do this"...We live in a world where people go to stores, grab milk and slam it on the ground because they think it's funny. Where people can't even be bothered to use a toilet properly or clean up after themselves because it's "some one else's job". I've read/watched about kids cutting the ears off of puppies, lighting cats on fire and throwing rocks at dogs..FOR FUN...people here, now in OUR reality ARE assholes, who DO absolutely beat up random strangers for no reason (They're hitting people with bike locks and pulling elderly people out of cars just for wearing a hat they don't like) who harass strangers and who will absolute start shit just so they have an excuse to fight with some one.."No one would kill you for wearing a red shirt"....except in L.A where I've been shot at for being in the wrong part of town....(What about the police officers shot for just sitting in their cars simply for being police officers?) the point is EVERYTHING that happens to Arthur, the sign jumping, the guys on the subway, being made fun of on TV (Tosh.0, multiple late night with-) right down to treating terrible people as celebrities.... it happens right now, to people every day...so what about any of it is unrealistic?
Even when you cite real life examples of worse things happening for no reason to people they claim it's unrealistic that all of these happened to him.
He's "conveniently" unfortunate.
But things like that happen. Some people have exceedingly bad days or even lives that just keep piling more and more misery.
Hell, there's the case of Roy Sullivan who was hit by lightning seven times, survived all of them and people started avoiding him for fear of getting struck by lightning.
Reads like some anime side character or cartoon villain origin story, doesn't it. He isn't even close to being the most unfortunate man documented though.
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible and the unlikely is likely to be what makes a good story.
@Robertino Tanos its called sarcasm i believe
´j́ust so they have an excuse to fight with some one.´ Exactly, some 1, against groups they're far less heroic, only when they have the numbers, like 5 to 1, they are tough. cough antifa.
*Laughs in E;R*
I think it’s cause of the conditioning of 1000’s of years of storytelling and things being logical/explainable.
Mauler need to get the whole dark family on here:
Literature devil- the dad
E;R - the edgy little brother
Sitch - the older brother
B;Ilbo Satchles: the abusive uncle
Jay: the gay sex slave chained up in the basement
Who would be the mom?
@@deathsdoor07 J Longbone
Is Rags supposed to be Alfred?
I liked Ralph’s reviews in the past but this one on Joker was so off the mark, also the pretentious attitude he had kinda struck a nerve with me.
He’s always been pretentious. Nothing changed, are you dim?!
one time I liked reviews from "Mauler" then he stopped making them and built a channel on shit he did 2 years ago: the end
Chief Smakaho Wat?
@@ChiefSmackahoLLC Hi Ralph.
@@ChiefSmackahoLLC cry more consoomer😂😂😂
"Looks like CGI"
Guess the man has never heard of prop glass and a simple jump cut.
Which is amazingly hilarious coming from a film student.
@@Soridan Film students are to movies what "journalists" are to video games
@@yourarchnemesis8453 Sort of true, but film students at least have relevant studies. Games "journalists" are just glorified bloggers who couldn't recognize integrity and investigation even if they invaded their 'safe space'.
@@Soridan And by "safe space" we mean "ass" here.
@@Trollificusv2 safe ass
Who are these guys?
Are they supposed to be Alfred???
Is your name supposed to be alfred?
Is Ralph supposed to be Alfred??????
Is Alfred supposed to be Alfred?
This isn't funny, Arthur
Is Alfred supposed to be funny?
"All women of color and dwarves are the same"
-Sigment Freudian
"Women of colour, female Ewoks, there is no different.”
- Quintonius Subjectivius
"But are they Alfred?"
-Karl Marx
Yet do I stand above these creatures such as these?
- Big Titteous
“Women of color, some bunch may refer to as a female “Ewok”, along with the delightful dwarves, still deserve the proverbial enbridled peen” - Bigideas
@@19Ledor You legend
"Joker sucks because it's just a ripoff of Taxi Driver and King of Comedy."
Five Minutes Later:
"Joker sucks because it is fundamentally different in several key ways to both Taxi driver and Kind of Comedy."
This is what happens when you fellate Martin Scorsese one to many times.
Kinda like how you all fellate the Hangover director ?
@@larinho80 Nah.
This is your mind on film school.
*too
@@larinho80 "Man make movie I didn't like before, therefore man never make movie I like."
What a pragmatic take.
Ralph: This movie is for 14 year olds and only 14 year olds would like it
Normal people: This movie is rated R and was nominated for 11 Oscars
Ralph: Shut up plebeians
Lance Steel To be fair the Oscars don’t really matter. I love the Joker movie, but those awards are just popularity contests. And they rarely give the award to someone that deserves it. This a problem that’s been ongoing for more than 50 years.
Oscars? Hahahahahahaha! Did you forget about black panther also having bloody won oscars? As if that has bearing on the quality of a movie, what a fallacious attempt.
Haven Thompson Nope, never said that the Oscars determine the quality of a movie or prove artistic merit. All I was trying to do was discredit Ralph’s idea that the only people who would like this movie are 14 year olds who have never watched any art house films. Good job for taking down that straw man by the way and calling it fallacious. Couldn’t have done it without you.
@@docvince1491 I say the Oscars have been pretty good this year in terms of the animation department. I agree before that it was definitely a popular contest, but this year not well known but deserving films like Klaus, I Lost My Body and Missing Link got Oscar nomination and barely any Disney movies got nominated. I say it's improving.
@@PHAToregon thats...thats not what he was saying. Do 14 year olds watch the Oscars? No, they dont.
ralph totally lost me when he compared Joker to batman v superman, like wtf lol it doesnt take a brain surgeon or a film school student to know those two movies are in completely different leagues. That's like saying Dark knight is the same as batman v superman because they're both dark super hero movies
No but it takes a film student to think they are similar in any way
I cant really relate because I like both.
if he thinks it's that bad then thats fine but he kept being condescensing to people who liked the movie which was a shame for me cause i liked the movie
"Comics em bad" -Ralph
Bootie Warrior yeah. This is something I’d never expect an actual, experienced film student to say. Just saying it really undermines his credibility among his own audience and audiences like EFAP’s.
What happened, Ralph?
Given how much people misrepresent aspects of this movie, and blatantly make things up about other movies when trying to compare Joker as a inferior copy, I honestly believe that if the girlfriend being a illusion wasn’t spelled out in the film with the flashbacks that these same people would list it as another example of the world and people around Arthur being irrationally cruel.
“Oh look, his girlfriend won’t even acknowledge she knows him now! We get it movie! Arthur has a “hard life”... but what about the struggles of that black single mother? She’s the real victim in all this!”
I could see that ....smh
Reply if you have smol pp
BigBroLittleSis1 Watch cinemasins on Joker.
Deckard what he do?
BigBroLittleSis1 Acted like a moron probably.
I think it's actually pretty obvious what happened with Ralph here. His criticisms are so superficial and he gets so many things wrong about the movie because he quite obviously didn't rewatch it for this review. The only reason he wouldn't do that is because he became so bitter and cynical about the movie, which probably came about because of how many people were haranguing him to review it while he wanted to do other things. Saying things like "it's a superhero film" and "it's supposed to be connected to the DCEU" can only happen if you literally don't remember a swathe of details from the film. So he came to hate the movie in the abstract because people wouldn't leave him alone about it, so he didn't rewatch it and instead slapped together this supremely shallow, spiteful video. This is most definitely the lowest low his content has ever hit.
It also seems like Ralph was drunk while writing and making the review.
Rascoe Hunter he definitely sounds intoxicated, the jump cuts in the video make it seem like that is even more so the case.
@@PDD-co6yo The funny thing is that Drunk Rags was still making more sense then Ralph.
@@rascoehunter3608 the editing was pretty bad I think Ralph just rushed it and didn't put enough time
I agree with you, i subscribed to him about a year ago because i liked his videos on the DCEU and Transformers and what not. When i saw this video i unsubbed and im not re-subscribing until i see a MASSIVE improvement.
Avatar ripped off Pocahontas, which ripped off Dances with Wolves, which is an adaptation of a story that ripped off A Man Called Horse
Avatar also ripped of Ferngully and Lawrence of Arabia
And The Last Samurai
And they ripped off Alfred
Well Avatar is actually quite a shit film. Rip off or not.
@@alexmaverick6647 Well that sir is a bad take.
I think between his last two uploads, Ralph fell down the _Joker_ stairs, damaging his ability to make coherent film criticisms
His Jeb is in the hospital.
When I heard that Ralph's video was bad, I had no clue that it was this bad. He keeps making so many factual errors and doesn't bring up enough supporting evidence for his claims.
@Robertino Tanos You try
Maybe try growing a spine next time?
Originally I was excited to see Ralph's video. I personally really like Joker but I'm always curious to hear differing opinions and Ralph's opinion is one I respect, but that video was awful. It's just awkward how it's literally slapped together and most every point is this strawman argument or kinda nonsense. I really hope it was a parody or something. Jesus.
Rat Trap!
He’s horrendously factually inaccurate several times in this video
Jay is wrong, Aluminum was the actual original spelling, but then scientific journals normalized aluminium. Because yes, that is the factoid that I focus on in this 5 and a half hour review of a ralphthemoviemaker take on joker.
Ha! The Brits lose again!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It's fine: every Tism has a Tism.
I used to think the worst thing about Ralph was his annoying voice.
Now, I’ve discovered that when he makes a bad video, he doesn’t JUST make a bad video;
He shows what a devious, manipulative, snobbish, holier-than-thou attention seeking pity party he can really be.
It’s really quite pathetic how terrible this video was, since it came from someone I know can make good videos.
Wtf was this?
Hey Ralphitsmegator
It reminds me of Just Write. I discovered him trhoguh his Hobbit videos and though he did a really good break down of how it failed, narratively. Then I saw his take on TLJ. Oh. My. Gosh. What a train wreck!
JoeRingo118 he started smoking pure subjectivity
It this kind of attitude that just turns me away from watching Ralph videos anymore.
He's not talking about actual problems in the film, he's talking about his own petty feelings about the film and it just ends up wasting time.
"I was only pretending to be retarded"
59:00 That's not CGI. It makes no sense for that to be CGI. It would cost a whole lot more to make this thing in CGI than to get a sleet of safety-glass that Hollywood has used for decades to do exactly this type of thing.
Was it necessary? His life is shattering, it's a visual representation of his life... Does this guy even movies?
Well come on, we can't make the argument "it would be an absurd waste of money to do this in CGI, so they must not have done that" after the Caville Moustache Incident.
@@CruelestChris That's fair, but Justice League was absolutely filled with CGI, while Joker used CGI very sparingly.
Let's be fair:
Sugar glass prop and a method actor, versus whichever cgi substitute they'd use if incapable of doing it the "gud ol' way"..?
If it's CGI, then so be it, however, it looks genuine as fawk and so either they had dedicated workers for the post process, or they did not use CGI.
CGI or not it's still some nice show don't tell storytelling
The funny thing about Ralph calling people morons for thinking Citizen Kane boring is YMS in an argument even admitted that it was boring and repetitive(though technically well made) so he just called his co-host a moron.
When was that?
This is like watching a GDELB using elements from the worst of the bad takes on Joker.
It's no wonder the EFAP crew genuinely thought this might be a parody video. He either lies about or is maliciously obtuse about details to make the story/characters look worse, he calls it a ripoff of The King of Comedy/Taxi Driver while showing 'Wikipedia synopsis' level understanding of either film (he even said Rupert PUPKIN's name wrong, and that was a _recurring_ _joke_ in the film), and he sneers at it for being based on a comic book. The list goes on, and the EFAP crew pointed pretty much all of them out when they happened.
When Quinton claimed that Rag'[_+s said that a movie is objectively without value if it sells toys, it was comical how obviously he was lying. Not just because of how easy it was to prove him wrong (the real clip played right beforehand), but because it sounded strange that Rag'/?=-s would say something so clearly wrong and stupid.
But...damn. Here comes ralphthemoviemaker throwing out that "This Film Is An Unoriginal, Corporate Product", and it only succeeded because it had the Batman/Joker label attached to it. He directly cites its major studio backing and the profit it turned as evidence towards its lack of originality and artistic integrity. He practically writes out a bitter manifesto against the film and major studios in general.
This is just bizarre. I wouldn't call myself a fan of Ralph's work, but generally what I've seen I thought was pretty good. But this? This is just awful.
Not to mention when he mentions a 4chan post from 3 years ago
According to Rock Mobster: To sum up Ralph's video:
His friends made him feel stupid on a podcast for liking Joker. Now he feels the need to project his own insecurity onto everyone else who likes the movie.
On a related note, I used to like the videos from the three members of Sardonicast. Somehow, since that show started, all three of them have become unbearable to listen to. Oh well...
With all that going against it being a serious video, why are you saying it isn't parody?
@@chrisnemo6799 Probably the best evidence is that he covered a lot of the same points in the Sardonicast that included Joker. The coverage starts at 25:22 if you want to watch the Sardonicast to see for yourself.
@@electricbayonet2 Is that not proof that he's parodying what he feels to be bad takes? He hits EVERY SINGLE dishonest criticism people have made of Joker. Even the people who genuinely believed what they were saying didn't have all of them in their videos like this. He's not stupid, and I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he thinks his audience is, either.
RalphtheMovieMaker has a trash opinion on Joker, but his video about Mystery Diners is still and will always be hilarious to me.
His ghost shows suck video too
CHARLES STILES MYSTERY DINERS
Joshua Allgood Release the drone!
Ralph is better when he does shit comedy reviews.
4 cameras have been installed in the bathroom.
Three possibilities exist.
1. This video is supposed to be serious, in which case Ralph is an angry moron, annoyed that he's allowing himself to succumb to peer pressure from his other moronic colleagues.
2. This video is supposed to be a parody/joke, on which case it fails because the delivery is trash, the message is muddled, and it's just poorly made from a video editing standpoint. If it's supposed to be a parody, it's supposed to be a parody of something, surely. It's a parody of nothing. The video is nothing.
3. The video is supposed to be Alfred.
I take possibility three. Sounds the most logical.
Ralph made his career off of reviewing movies everybody knew were bad already, and when confronted with the prospect of reviewing a movie that is widely liked he completely drops the ball. Not because he didn't like it, but because it's so painfully obvious that he has no handle on how to actually evaluate any movies from an objective standpoint.
Keep crying
Nah I don't think that's it. I mean maybe, but honestly I feel like Ralph is in a Dark place probably being Drunk while Recording and Editing his Video. I believe it is because his Dream of becoming a Successful Filmmaker probably won't happen and because of that he is forced to keep reviewing movies which he obviously doesn't enjoy anymore.I think he is very much able to critize well. But of course none of this is proven he might just be out of touch who knows.
Michawk Walter he is like 19. If he already gave up on his dream he didn’t even try much. In your first years as a filmmaker you should just work on improving your craft. I’ve seen his films and they are terrible. He just needs to improve. I would kill for an audience like ralph.
Okay, its a really silly hill to die on. But if the glass didn't break it could be seen as some sort of metaphor for the situation he is in right then, his own actions being unable to make any real difference to the wider world. No matter how hard he struggles he can't make an impact. If it didn't break it hits home just how powerless he really is at that moment.
"the glass is a metaphor for society"
-bilfro boggins
So it's a directorial choice, and one where there's no wrong decision, just conveying a slightly (significantly?) different message. Though actually, it's more a choice of whether it represents Arthur situation or society, and neither is "wrong".
Or it's a symbol of his fragile state. All it takes is one little thing, and he'll crack. I think the scene is fine as is, but either way.
Au contraire. The glass, on the PHONEBOOTH, is a metaphor for Arthur’s ability to communicate with society. Due to miscommunication, he loses his job, which was his last tether to a regular life in society; when he loses that, he smashes the glass, making the interior truth plain in an exterior way, and also scarring that phonebooth for whomever uses it next; and what does Joker do next? He immediately kills 3 rich assholes regardless of their social standing, which becomes a flashpoint for society as a whole, making the interior truth of systemic class tension into a plain exterior phenomenon of rioting and public outcry. So the glass breaking is a microcosm of everything Joker does in the movie; to soil the corpse of what was supposed to help him, and destructively voice his pain in a way that no one can ignore. Also the glass is gay.
No, people definitely defend the sequels because they're star wars. Tons of reviewers literally say this. Anyone who says "it's a kids movie" is making this argument. It's good because brand.
And that's 1000% the motivation behind defending it. They ONLY watched it and ONLY got hype for it because it has the same brand as the originals.
If it is a kids movie the. Why are you an adult watching it, and has an opinion on the movie or have an opinion on other adults watching a children's movie on
@@anilin6353 read the comment again. Slowly this time.
@@singlikeyoumeanit3261 no
Star Wars and diversity. Yeah, had the sextism card thrown at me over TFA when pointing out the narrative issues of Kylo losing to Rey because, apparently, "a staff is a thrusting weapon and Rey's used to a staff, so she stabs with her sword and Kylo's technique, taught by Luke, is weak to thrusts."
@@anilin6353 because the ood star wars movies were good, so you expect a similar level of quality from the brand. Some people have brand loyalty no matter the quality. I do not.
"Is this guy supposed to be Alfred"
- Ralpbo Sepins
"What makes good rat? Is it Alfred?"
-Ralpideas
I'm so glad I bailed years ago on Ralph and IHE. Their content just stopped being anything worth my time back then, to see what it's become now is just further reinforcing my decision.
this just reminded me to unsubscribe from Ralph, thanks lol
Droid Control Ship
Well, IHE is still great in my opinion.
Cody Lee I mean, his whole shtick is taking a topic, and attacking the weakest points to look better whilst pulling the “lol fanboys getting mad”, all his videos just kinda melt together
@Robertino Tanos Then why even bother commenting? Dumbass.
Ralph is just not that intelligent of a critic overall. He is able to analyze the technical elements of a film (mise-en-scene, camera work, lighting, editing) very well, but when it comes to the script and actual writing of the narrative, he is shallow most of the time. He is the typical film degree critic who gatekeeps and is really only knowledgable when it comes to the techniques. But as far as storytelling goes, is excessively mediocre and not reliable. The most annoying example being Patric Willems with his fucking condescending lessons like when he talks to his audience like children when he brings up continuity editing in Battleship Potemkin, which is fucking entry level shit you learn in your first semester earning a film degree.
Ralph is similar, but his pretension is flat out stated in his actual scripts/monologues as seen with this video.
I used to watch Ralph, but once I realized that he is shit when it comes to actual storytelling and writing, I stopped. He seems to value only subtlety like having subtlety in thematic elements is the one true key to quality entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if he hated Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films because they're "silly fantasy movies that aren't subtle like the works of Frederico Fellini." He really comes off as a kid fresh out of film school with a chip on his shoulder who looks down on the plebian movie goers. I personally have a minor in film, and was in classes with people like him for years.
Values subtlety but also complains the 3rd act of Joker didn't clearly tell him who to be rooting for. The guy makes no sense.
@@xxsilentreatmentxx Exactly. He also apparently doesn't know that stories aren't completely about rooting for someone. You can be emotionally affected by a character and fascinated by them without actually rooting for them or their actions. My favorite example being Light Yagami from the Death Note manga and anime. I actually rooted for L because I thought he was more impressive since he only had human means to solve the case versus Light's Shinigami magic. However, Light is an amazing character and protagonist that I enjoyed every moment of following as he fascinated me to no end and I was heavily invested in seeing where his story headed and how it may conclude. Death Note just wouldn't work as well with L, the more morally laudable character, as the protagonist. This concept is at the heart of storytelling and characterization, narratives aren't just rooting for a character like a sports team.
MelanicDisaster They definitely tried making L a protagonist in one of the live action ones. I remember that movie being bizarre and moving away from the mystery and thriller genre.
The only thing that I distinctly remember from that movie is L Naruto running.
@@Kaliospectre Lol, sounds like a mess. I own the complete manga collection and blu ray of the anime so I typically don't fuck with live action shit. I already have the two best ways for the story to be told. That's how I feel with live action remakes in general. I also own the complete Avatar: The Last Airbender series on dvd and I am not even slightly interested in the soon to be shitty live action Netflix version incoming. I have the holy grail already, why risk so much time and hope for what will most likely be a McDonald's cup in comparison, ya know?
MelanicDisaster True.
That Death Note movie was the only one of the live action movies that I’ve seen of the franchise. I was over at my cousin’s house, saw that he owned a copy and I was curious enough to pop it in and give it a watch.
Since he only owned THAT specific movie when he also has the anime, I imagine he bought it just to appreciate the sheer ridiculousness of that movie. One of those “it’s so bad, it’s good” movies for him.
I'm at 4½ hours and the funny thing, now that I've been reminded of it, is that Jebby Nichol's Joker video was actually more on point and informative about why the movie didn't work for her. Jebby didn't understand it; Ralph is actively lying about it.
Damn, that’s depressing. His fanboyism of Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver didn’t really work to his advantage, he lies that they copied it, while the cast and crew made no attempt to hide the reference to it😒 to quote Karl Jobst: “what a pathetic bitch”.
Ralph’s entire argument for why this film is bad is basically the ‘it insists upon itself’ scene from family guy
BECAUSE IT HAS A VALID POINT TO MAKE, IT'S INSISTENT!
Damn, I had written off Family Guy as a mediocre unfunny show for normies. I've been seeing it referenced in interesting ways more and more lately. Maybe I'll add it to my "to watch" list, after the Simpsons.
Are Ewoks supposed to be Alfred?
Yes.
Are rhino milk supposed to be alfred
🤔
In my opinion, people criticise Joker for four reasons:
1) They genuinely did not enjoy the film, which is absolutely fine
2) They're deliberately being a contrarian bc they're sick of all the praise the film is getting
3) They know that they're the type of people who would contribute to Arthur's downfall IRL so try to suppress that by claiming the movie had nothing to say about society.
4) They don't like the fact that there's not a clear cut good guy or bad guy in the film.
Well when watching king of comedy, you can see how lacking Joker can be in this type of story arc etc. I mean it's fun to see an almost joker parody version, but to be praised for things it just copy pasta'd sucks when there's things it might be praised for that it did well. 4/10
5) They're deliberately saying it's bad just to get clickbait-views and don't put any thought into their criti-tisms.
I honestly don't know which one Ralph is in this case.
6) they dislike the people who like the film, and so have to look for flaws to show that those people are wrong to like it.
8) they can't accept the fact that it's a legitimately good DC movie.
I criticize the movie because it's not that good of a movie.
Joker: *Is mainstream*
Artsy Film Crowd: “It’s bad because it’s bad, and has nothing to do with its popularity!”
Dreixxen 🙄
Facts
I find it ironic that this movie could possibly get people interested in the kind of film they like, but now they just act smug about it and diminish interest in artsy films by being exceptional dickheads
The most common complaint I always keep hearing is that it’s too shallow or just a rip off of taxi driver and king of comedy. People never elaborate on this points at all.
A comic book movie can't be true kino! We can't let plebians in here!
You know this feels sort of like the passing of the torch in a way. I remember when people like ralph and IHE were the most popular critics, but now they’ve morphed into fodder that the new critics (mauler and the efap crew) take apart for having shit points. It’s like watching evolution in action.
The old guard need to create Nofap, No Obsessive Fanboys Are idk People
NIlk Tots it already exists, it’s called sardonicast
@@Dodolord679 yeah but its not explicitly anti efap (because they hide their opinions)
It's the circle of TH-cam life, a loveable and famous content crator starts sperging out of nowhere and/or starts putting their politics in front of everything, some nobody makes a video about them, becomes famous, fame rises to their head.......
@@Dodolord679 other than Dunkey and David Sandberg, their guests are infinitely worse:
- Quinton Reviews
- Chris Stuckman (twice)
- Critikal
- Needle Drop
- Adam's fucking brother lol
And without even realizing it I listed all they guests they ever had...
Much like how Joker has many different interpretations on what is or isn't real, Ralph's review has many different interpretations on what's satire or plain stupidity.
Ralph is the YT son of CinemaSins Jeremy
Keep crying
@@itsjustthemo well I like his other stuff, basically everything with him ranting about terrible Movies like Sleepless. Atleast he is somewhat likeable in these.
@@BLARG313 keep crying
So there’s this man in the film. And my mom called me and said her theory was that that guy in the sequel will be ALfrEd.
"you laughing ? long man called my take bad and you are laughing ?"
4:58:06
That green background means that the post is from 4plebs, a 3rd-party archive site, not from 4chan itself.
The site's search shows you the most recent matches first.
So, unless he skipped some results for some reason (not sure why he would, if he wanted to better prove the point he was making), the implication is that no one on that entire site, out of god knows how many millions of posts, has thought to mention this guy in the last two and a half years.
_Making yourself look irrelevant to own the incels._
Was just about to comment this.
Also literally every e-celeb will be shat on there if for nothing else then to bait the fanboys.
Not expecting it is like being surprised when a reddit mod gets ousted as a kiddie fiddler.
I'd like to think that he was so ungodly salty he had the archive bookmarked since he saw it just to be used 3 years later lol
Little Devil's Advocate here: Maybe he's been using that particular screen shot as a satirical 'proof' for the past 3 years? Like, every time he wants to say people are talking smack about him, he just throws that exact image up? I doubt he'd have that kind of persistence or foresight, but the potential exists that it's actually a clever running gag. Probably not though. It would be a funny joke, though, and decent bait for these moments.
01:44:00
I too deeply enjoyed the climax of the film for this reason. Murray isn't one-dimensional and honestly I could see his point of view. A lot of people like to paint him as this big asshole like Thomas Wayne, but it isn't so simple as it turns out.
Yes, he ridiculed Arthur on television, which was no doubt a bad character move. But you see as soon as Joker meets Murray that he's just doing his job, and Murray actually treats Joker very well up until the interview. Murray's assistant scoffs at Joker, and Murray has to tell him to back the fuck off and to respect their guest. Very classy and it didn't come off as phony to me. The phony side of Murray was his showbiz side. Behind the curtain he seems like a very affable and kind man.
Furthermore, in the interview, Murray is actually the voice of reason, despite his clear disconnect from Arthur's state of mind. Murray can't understand Joker, and that is perhaps a failing, but he's also right: Joker has no right to kill people and laugh about it. It's no laughing matter. But the Joker, of course, is so far gone his new, hellish point of view is crystallized: it is a laughing matter and he can prove it. Then BAM.
It's so fucking good, and something of a prelude to Batman and the Joker's relationship. They simply cannot reconcile, and will not stop until the other is defeated and proven wrong.
whats really annoying is when stuff like this happens unintentionally. Dr Casper and Trench in the game Control get routinely shit on towards the end of the game, despite Casper doing basically everything right and Trench having a very good reason for acting how he did. Without spoiling much (because you really should play it) the FBC contains a kid who was exposed to an anomaly and basically has super powers, despite the circumstances Casper tries like hell to make sure the kid is as well off as he can be given the circumstances. (which, granted, still isn't great, but you also can't exactly let a highly traumatized teenager with superpowers just roam out in the world, they DO need special care, care that only the FBC could provide. And, even if we ignore that, it's not Casper who is saying the kid needs to be contained, meanwhile it IS Casper who tries to look after the kid as much as possible after he is contained)
I really love the game but the protagonist's attitude towards Casper and Trench really does just piss me off.
Rags's's does not represent Rags's's' opinions.
For reviewers, artists, writers, and the like if you're not prepared to take the good, the bad, and the ugly criticisms and figure out which is which, don't out yourself out there. Have some self-awareness and learn from your mistakes or be forever in ignorance.
@@averydennie728 That's like, just your opinion, man.
@@averydennie728 Well that escalated quickly
@@averydennie728 I'm pretty sure not all. If you give me enough time I'm sure I could find that one furry who doesn't want to fuck dogs.
@@averydennie728 fucking based
I am a Cosmonaut alright how about 2 weeks
Drunk Rags and Screaming Jay is the best thing that has ever happened and I am not going to quantify how that is because I am ralphthemoviemaker so I never do
Call me a contrarian but I think it took away from the stream. Rags talking in circles is pure torture. Their spots were wasted and could’ve been people that add to the conversation.
@@deeta000 Rags is the co-host. Its either him or no EFAP at all. Personally I thought it was amazing. He brought a lot to the discussion too, as well as some sweet anecdotes.
@@ori.g4mi well no, Rag''''''''''''''''''''''''s has been away a few episodes
@@ori.g4mi what? Without rags, mauler still runs efap wtf
Do you know when you're looking at a film that you dislike, but it's getting praise everywhere, so much that it annoys you? And then, after that, you start to complain about every little thing being wrong with it, regardless of observable reality?
This is what I think Ralph is doing.
Don't get me wrong, I do this all the time, but that doesn't make it smart or correct.
This is probably the case. It's a shame that his current style is jumpy editing and strange jokes rather than letting himself explain his own points. I don't think it's terrible, but compare his best of the decade video to something like YMS' 2007 List, the latter is so much more clear.
When joker got nominated for best picture moviebob had five tweets ranting about it
Fake, 5 is way too few for diabeto
Dildo Braggins You’re just jealous because movie bob is the ultimate obese neckbeard chad and knows big words like “meta textualize”
CynicalMemester my virgin brain can’t handle his immaculate vocabulary
Who still takes Movie "Fuck the Middle Class" Bob seriously.
When you pissed off Movie (NITW didn't have enough socialist messages) Bob you probably did somthing good
Much as I've enjoyed Ralph's videos in the past, lately he seems to be unenthusiastic about doing any reviews and he often sounds bored and somewhat depressed.
But in his Joker video he just comes across as extremely condescending, elitist and spiteful with his critiques that I couldn't even take him seriously by the end. It's one thing to not like the movie, which is fine, but to continually insult and talk down to the audience who like it is bad form for a critic.
I do actually think he's gotten better lately. To me, his newer reviews are pretty decent.
RE: "The flashbacks revealing Arthur's girlfriend was imaginary were unnecessary - it was super obvious that she wasn't real. And the flashbacks just went on and on."
The first time I saw the Joker, I missed that fact even with the flashbacks because I dropped my soda. Thanks to the distraction, I missed the specific dialog of the scene, but I got the tone - that she had an apprehensive/repulsed reaction to something Arthur did or said, so I only knew they were no longer on solid footing, possibly broken up. And then she doesn't show up in the rest of the movie. I didn't realize the relationship was imagined until a few days later, when the eFAP talking about Joker spoilers aired. That's how brief the flashbacks were.
One good thing I can say about Ralph's video is that, everyone called him out on how bullshit it was. It was great to see some much honesty and criticism from his fans for once. Unlike Jeb Nic's video who was protected in the comments by walls and walls of White Knights. If we don't criticize our favorite reviewers for making mistakes, they'll never learn and get better.
I completely agree.
He’s also a young a film student so
Like the occasional stupid takes are kinda expected
Ralph also does something in this review that is *extremely* disingenuous that I've seen a lot of people do recently when formulating their "criticism." He comes out and claims that the movie is a shallow, corporate product. *His critiques are then tailored to match this manufactured premise.* It's a conceptual straw man that's very easy to miss, but he says the movie is superficial and simple, and then makes all sorts of simple, superficial criticisms. He doesn't examine clips or give arguments to prove his points with any depth because according to his straw man premise, there's nothing deeper to analyze. It is *so easy* to get misled by this type of "analysis" and argumentation if you find yourself agreeing with the base premise of a vdieo like this, regardless of what is being reviewed. He may not even realize it's what he's doing, but damn is it bad.
So like poisoning the well?
@@orande9916 Not quite. Poisoning the well is when you state your conclusion as conclusively as possible and then argue backwards from it, which can fool people into thinking it has been proven, when really, when you start at a conclusion and work backwards, all you're going to do is prove it via confirmation bias. If you're being negative, you would be prepping people to hate something rather than working forward towards your conclusion by making arguments progressively. He is making superficial arguments, but justifies that shallow preponderance by saying that the movie is superficial. It's really just excuse-making for laziness, but if people buy into that excuse or don't know any better, they're not going to notice.
Oh I get it thanks
Never since he's Nostalgia Critic's The Wall video. Ralph had been going downhill. Now he hit the bottom. 10/10
"I'm afraid that this is what I'm going to turn into."
-Raphael Sceptre, moments before turning into the object in question
@@CLfreaksho oh my God I just realized this now. But I don't think it is that terrible.
How can Ralph call a movie made in 2019 with a 50 million dollar budget a huge budget?
Honestly, most studios spend that much on Kraft services.
Because in his eyes anything that gets released outside of a film festival and had a budget larger than some spare change in the couch cushions is a mainstream sellout. A common pretentious film student take.
Not defending him but LaLaLand had (If I remember) had a $26million budget.
Geek Chorus that still sounds pretty huge to the layman. But for a major Warner Bros film release, that’s basically _pocket change!_
Ralph’s really demonstrating his acclaimed film knowledge, isn’t he?
@@NeoCreo1 lmao imagine trying to sound like you know what you're talking about
What is with the Joker movie that makes these professionals reviewers make these incredible half-ass videos with bare bone arguments about how bad the film is, even though most arguments don't hold up and most of them are the results of their own bias?
It has a white male lead angry with the state of things made in 2019, thats it thats all it needs to be to inspire these lunatics to anger. If the movie had been the same but with more "fuck the whiny manbaby incel" overtones or a black or female protagonist itd be a critical hit (but a box office flop of course)
@@nilktots6380 Although I'd agree that not all their criticisms are very strong, I don't think changing the protagonist's race or gender would change their attitudes. Hype journalists would have calmed down though.
@@tomcfarrell if you mean wouldnt change the protag's attitude i agree, if you mean the critics, no theyd go head over heels for a violent black protagonist portayed sympathetically, Oh if you mean my "but itd bomb of course" thats because i assume in this hypothetical scenario if joker was black and or female to appease journalists and critics the film would pander in more ways than that, there are some people who would boycott the movie if it was the exact same but with black joker and maybe some things happen to him at least partially because of racism, dunno how many
@@nilktots6380 I meant critics in Ralph's circle wouldn't change their opinions on the movie, maybe you're right and some less credible ones out there would though. Although if the character's race is hardly a factor in their character and in the movie, then I think a boycott because of it would be just as illogical.
@@tomcfarrell if you mean ralphs youtube circle maybe but if you look at reviewers they flock to things with messages they like regardless of how theyre liked by the general public or how well they line up with how they otherwise review movies
Did Ralph think it was a good idea to talk in a depressed and bored voice for a video?
hes been doing that lately and it sucks
It just hit him that a job out of a fun hobby is still a job
@@nilktots6380 Well he should just be glad he doesn't have to work a crappy job and that he can take a day off whenever he wants.
@Robertino Tanos he means actually depressed not play pretend lol
@@deformedchild5547 oh for sure its just some people dont realize even cushier jobs still have requirements and risks that trump simple fun
Can someone explain who the superhero in Joker was? Maybe I didn’t get the DLC Ralph did, but I don’t remember any
@Jebalita BattleBush God, this is just like you 14 YO Incels.
It’s in the DCEU, therefore it’s just another superhero movie. You don’t use descriptors to define what’s actually in the film, you use them to demonise the film you’re reviewing as much as possible. But I shouldn’t be surprised when Joker is exactly the same as BvS.
Y’know - the film with different pacing, writing, directing, marketing, action, themes and tone.
They’re totally the same and you dumb kids keep eating it up! Whereas *I* only watch French films with a budget of $200. I’m better than you and my Film Studies Degree MEANS SOMETHING DAMMIT!!!
It's the strong single black mother, so I wonder why ralph is so upset?
In the absence of an actual hero, I vote for Joker.
@@Longshanks1690 technically, it isn't even a DCEU movie. it just falls under the DC licence
@Nonya Bidness Thats_the_joke.jpeg
Ralphthemilkmaker.
Man, Joker is just a magnet for garbage takes.
Ralphthemilkmaker? Keep him away from the rhinos.
I agreed with him in that this was gonna be one of those movies where everyone is unrealistic huge dick. Disagree with most of everything else he said.
Don’t let Ralph taint the sacred milk!
Sort of seems like the people who hate the movie usually fall into two groups. They either hate it because it's a comic book movie or they hate it because it's about a white guy with problems. Of course, I'm not saying everyone who dislikes the movie has those exact reasons, but it's the two I see pop up the most.
@@SelfPityEntertainment There's a minority third who enjoyed Joker's influences more. People who would rather watch Taxi Driver or King of Comedy, I mean genuinely not like Ralph who just wants to fellate himself.
I actually realized something interesting about Ralph while watching his review of The Joker. He isn’t a good film critic. He’s a great comedian. I mean, think about it. What’s your favorite Ralphthemoviemaker video? For most people, it’s going to be Mystery Diners, Bigfoot, Ghost Shows, Suicide Squad. The reason these reviews are so much better than the Joker review, is because it’s so obvious why the other subjects are bad, that you don’t even have to be good at film criticism to explain it. What made Ralph so great wasn’t that he made a really in depth interesting video about fucking Bigfoot Shows. It’s that he was funny in those videos, and you could tell he put a lot into them. One of the problems with the Joker review, is the fact that he put in zero effort, and it was marginally less funny than the other work he’s put out. He didn’t care, something he states throughout the video, and it makes me question why he made it in the first place. It’s this combination of lack of effort and lack of proper critique that really fucks him over. At least if this video had been as entertaining as his older ones, I wouldn’t have turned it off halfway in. I hope Ralph just takes a break and comes back as his old self, because watching his Joker review was just sad.
That's honestly the biggest problem with this review from Ralph.
He didn't seem to care to make a proper review of Joker so it just comes off as lazy and apathetic.
Wait,wait,wait was he ever funny? I always thought it's the other way around, horrible comedian, but goodish movie critic. Sleepless and Nine lives are pretty much an example of the comedy, repeating one or similar clips thoughout the video, have an over the top reaction to a scene and making a terrible skit at the end. When I saw the mystery diners video I laught more on the show itself instead of what Ralph added. The Gotti video to me would be an example of his interesting critism. So again I am genuinly interested if this guy was ever funny? Considering how tiring some of his videos are.
He's cared a lot less recently and its devolved into "see how much I dont care"
So he has the Nostalgia Critic problem.
Pretentious film student who found their niche in comedy reviews but is actually unable to do an entertaining in depth review.
Bat Croft22 meh, maybe I just like his style of humor more because I have brain damage. But I’ve always found him a better entertainer than a reviewer.
Ralph's mad because he got too many tweets saying "LOVER BAD".
Ralph's entire argument falls apart from the moment he calls it a 'superhero movie'
what kinda dope would call call this a superhero movie?
Yeah even if were being VERY generous it's more of a supervillian movie than a superHERO Movie.
I guess people don't have a term for Super Villain movie
@@LDT7564 he's not supervillain tho, antihero more like it from the movie perspective, even more grayish if we'd take it irl seriously.
@@dr_birb thats not what anti hero means.
Rags is the Drunken Master of Critical Analysis.
Some would say his tolerance for alcohol is the "cooked grenade" of Analyses.
A critical drinker of sorts
Maybe, but the part about Martha Wayne doesn't hold water.... because at the end Joker walks out of the room with blood on the bottom of his shoes leaving footprints implying he attacked the lady therapist in the room.
@@wrayday7149
Yeah, but he doesn't even know Martha Wayne. I don't know that he's ever even seen Martha. He has no reason to hold anything against her at all, especially since it's not clear if he does or doesn't believe that Thomas Wayne is his father (he was looking at the photo signed by TW while clowning up, after all), so we don't even know his exact feelings about Thomas. However, he does dislike social worker lady because she never paid any attention to him or helped him in any way. She was supposed to help him, and all she did was ask the same questions over and over again and nothing ever got any better. You can argue that she wasn't qualified and she doesn't like it either, but we don't know that Arthur knows about that or if he thinks that it would excuse her behavior anyway even if he did.
@@brofist1959 Yeah but he doesn't kill her... someone else does, and he just laughs about the whole situation... I am guessing the movie is shot as him retelling everything thru his perspective to the lady and we catch up to it at the end..... and the entire time he is telling her everything bad that has happened to him all she wanted to know was did he feel bad for a rich kid losing his parents.... which reinforced his deep hatred of people not caring/listening to him and he offs her and tries to escape.
@@og4407 go away now
The trippiest part of Joker for me is how much is real and how much is in Arthur's head.... was he in the asylum the entire time reading/watching the news and fantasizing the entire event a la Sucker Punch or did it all happen the way the film shows? This film is indeed Good Rat!
I love how he says that obviously Joker is void of artistic integrity and creativity due to its budget but praises 2001 as an example of intellectual and artistic ground breaking film while its budget would be higher than Joker's when considering inflation. Kinda debunked your own point there champ.
Keep crying
@@BLARG313 ha Gottem. great poinr.
@@BLARG313 I know this was 10 months ago but this literally wasn’t crying at all, I didn’t know making an argument was crying now loooool
Ah yes, the quintessential "Stop liking what I don't like" argument.
Still think Literature Devil is ER's brother.
The more talkative brother of E;R
The more posh brother
Just roommates probably
Or homosexual lovers.
maybe he's E;R's dad?
One of the criticisms of Ralph’s I genuinely cannot understand is his take on the other characters. He criticizes how none of the female characters are that important, and really just serve as a means for Joker.
Like... yeah? That’s kind of the point. The film isn’t called ‘Joker and Friends’, it’s called Joker. The film is about HIM. Honestly, how important is any character that isn’t Travis in Taxi Driver? The film was meant to be a character study focused on one specific character. So why is the fact that the other characters aren’t as good a critique? The film is meant to revolve around Joker specifically
guldmatt BB i agree with you. However, i think that in taxi driver the little girl was important as well as the girl he was obsessed with.( sorry I don’t remember there names)
jfuchs14
Actually, that’s a pretty good point. Still, nonetheless, they both only existed to further Travis’ story as well. Albeit, they’re more than 2D, the point still stands that they merely exist to further Travis’ story
guldmatt BB thats true, you make a good argument . Tbh, i liked joker more then taxi driver and king of comedy
Could you try typing this again except next time try making sense and secondly try to to cry as you type it out
BLARG313 he made perfect sense. You may have poor comprehension skills buddy .
Ralph has transcended into a sophisticated critic now. Wow
One might say he evolved as a critic.
@@Soridan He's become... dang it, I had something really insightful to say.
In a cosmic, EPIC way
@@Soridan ayyy
Parsa Saei celestial, not cosmic
Is this supposed to be a film about space wizards intended for children?
Harrinsain!! It’s a film about a sad clown intended for children
There was a time where I enjoyed Ralph, where he wasn't a critc and just some dude ripping into mystery diners or its the nutshack. Kinda how I saw IHE before his uploads to his main channel became a ghost town. These creators were good when they weren't putting their opinions above everyone else making shitty arguments and stuff
Ghost walker Games they’re good as they make fun of dumb shit. And can make jokes about it. Like you do with friends
I really don’t care about their options in movies for the same reason - it’s what by friends say ‘ itwas boring’ ‘I didn’t like it’ ‘too slow’
That’s why I don’t watch them anymore
For someone who watches Ralph a fair bit, this review felt like some sort of Evil Ralph made it. All the qualities that normal Ralph has were just amplified and twisted into a gruesome parody of himself.
Or maybe he just needs a break. He's sounded like he's needed a break for months now.
For someone who doesnt watch ralph i could never watch a another video with him after how disengenuis he was here
@@jedibrooks7235 I can understand that, still I suggest checking out a few of his other videos, they can get pretty funny, like the dog movie he reviewed
I can’t wait for you guys to get Mooper on
Satan was a good guest... he always gets a bad rap, though...
@@WrathofFenrir99 I love the idea of Lucifer the enemy of god, the accuser of mankind being #cancelled
Satan? Is that supposed to be Alfred?
@@nilktots6380 tbf him getting cancelled is for the better XD
@@kaiviru it just makes me giggle imagining an all powerful dark being ala Fantasia appearing only to be told theye cancelled by some twitter weirdo
Satan really lit this podcast with his criticisms, who knew Satan was so awesome and intelligent. He even approves to dogs, I’m impressed
This channel has more film criticism and is far better than ralphthemoviemaker in my subjective opinion.
Also as a DC fan I really disliked Justice League but I've liked everything else.
The first 2/3 of Wonder Woman were pretty damn good. Shame the last third existed. Hoping the sequel is an improvement.
Hunter Mearo I totally agreed but I’ll wait for the reviews to come out first before I make a decision on the sequel.
Unfortunately it seems like Ralphred has “evolved as a critic”
I left one of the comments on Ralph’s video that you read out in the second part of the stream (the one about Parasite.) Left it after I gave up on his video at the ten minute mark. It somehow blew up and sparked a several comment long debate about Joker.
Also when talking about how things follow logically, the guys who wrote south park did a lecture somewhere about storytelling. The big thing that they pushed is "But, Therefore" Meaning that each action should be either contrary to, or in reaction to, an action. So Joker is working with a sign, but it is taken by kids, therefore he is afraid and on a final warning, but his friend gives him a gun for protection, therefore he gets fired, but he is attacked on a subway, therefore he fights back with it.... etc. etc. etc.
Either this is a joke or ralph really just hates anything DC related
Were it so easy
In his defense, he said in Sardonicast that The Suicide Squad was pretty good.
5 hours ? Nice of you guys to do an efap mini to give us more time to listen to other podcasts
It's not the whole thing. I was there when it was live: the EFAP abruptly cut and they had to start it back up.
"Travis Bickle isn't human because he can't seem to hold a conversation and sort of just hangs around, even around his colleagues." Guess I'm not a human then.
Just because a character isn't relatable to you, or because they possess characteristics that aren't normal does not make them inhuman. In fact, that's the point. There are people out there who are like that, who are socially distant, who do not function normally. Taxi Driver depicts who someone like this, who is unstable and capable of doing reckless, abnormal things could be the person behind both heroes and villains.
You call yourself a gnome and then you're shocked that you're not human. Okay.
@@Soridan sick argument bro. I'm totally a literal garden gnome with a computer
@@gnomeam I wasn't arguing anything.;3
Taxi Driver has only become more relevant in a world of mass shootings. It feels like Scorsese predicted stuff like Mark David Chapman, and there's also the catcher in the rye connection. Travis has a lot in common with Holden Caulfield. Isolated from others and living in the fantasies of his mind. Travis is a racist and slowly descends into a full-blown psycho by the end of the movie. What I always found so compelling was watching that process unfold in a setting that feels like hell on earth. There's actually a lot of people like Travis, and they are very dangerous because they lose their grasp on reality. In my own personal experience, I've met dozens of people who can't hold conversations and just "hang around" people at work.
Humanity is not dictated by your skills as a conversationalist.
I like Ralph's content quite a lot, but this video is just downright awful. If you read the comments on this channel, it implies a majority of his fans agree. It's odd to me why he made this video as it's inconsistent with even his more negative videos, the two theories of him being pressured because he was berated for liking the Joker and that he was drunk when he made it holds some weight. I don't understand why he has kept it up or not addressed why he made the video as is. Especially since he went back to his normal content afterwards.
3:00:00 I think he’s referencing the fan theory that Arthur imagines the rest of the movie from the point he gets into the fridge. He dies there according to the theorists.
Would’ve been nice if he’d explained that though. Comes off a bit incoherent.
You're not supposed to relate to Travis Bickle. Who even made this claim? He is a blank guy, a weirdo, self-pitying creep etc. Some people like him exist and Taxi Driver is showing what could happen with that kind of person, from where these political assassins or similar figures come from. The movie presents the character in a neutral way, it's stays subtle and doesn't force the viewer to either hate him or sympathise with him and leaves his motivations to interpretation. The filmmakers weren't on his side and that's clear from various interviews but they weren't fully demonizing him either. Joker on the other hand, though it has its great subtler parts and audience engaging ambiguousness, is too on the nose sometimes. It's a different story and a different character but the movie tries too hard to make you feel sorry for Arthur. I wish creators knew where to draw a line when it comes to exposition level too. The main character shouting out the movie's thesis in a pivotal scene and that unnecessary flashbacks spelling out that the neighbour wasn't real are good examples of 'too much'. I still think that Joker is a fantastic film with interesting concept done in a distinctive and compelling style and contrary to some opinions - it's not dumb or pointless, it's way smarter than some movie snobs (not all the people that have some knowledge on movies - it did well with critics outside USA and won The Golden Lion) and film twitter want it to be but that's another story. On the Joker vs Taxi Driver - I liked both, one did better with certain aspects, the other did better with different ones.
Taxi Driver does not present Travis Bickle in a neutral way. It is literally an expressionist piece, meaning it is entirely subjective and all we are presented with are Travis' point of view. The relatability element comes in when Travis' environment is pitted against him. There are countless scenes of thiefs, sex workers and pimps doing absolutely repellent things roaming around the streets of New York and that is where you empathise with Travis, he is trapped in hell with no friends, family or lover. As for the pacing, on multiple rewatches, every scene in the film contributes to the overall substance in adding to the atmosphere of the repulsive streets of New York or furthers Travis' motivation although some of those can and will go over your head on first viewing (like how Travis watches the romance drama TV program and relates it to his inability to be comfortable around women (Betsy)) and the immaculate Hermann score as well as the sublime cinematography give the film a unique, recognizable and gripping atmosphere (although that is a subjective assessment, I felt the need to include it to explain how it makes the long draging scenes that the crew complained about actually quite engaging. As far as the big writing complaint on Travis' unexplained motivation for wanting to kill Palantine, it can be explained in various ways. For one he is a sexual rival of his, as Palantine is described by Betsy as a desirable man and although Travis may have not heard this bit of dialogue but there are various scenes of him getting acquainted with Palantine's character through television. The film also makes it clear that Travis comes from a religious background and he sees New York City as a sort of hell filled with sin and his view of Betsy, a blonde dressing in exclusively white clothes, is one of an Angel, a symbol of purity that he must free from the City's grasp and Palantine is the one whom Betsy is linked to. There is also another argument that I read about that can also alter your perspective of Travis' motivation for killing Palantine regarding anti-imperialism views that you can find here : cineprism.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/embedded-the-anti-imperialism-in-taxi-driver/. I had originally intended this to be a reply to your comment but I ended up adressing some of Rags' criticisms about the writing and pacing of the film as well as what makes Travis Bickle relatable (not likeable !). I do understand the criticisms as Taxi Driver can be a tedious first watch, I wasn't huge on it myself, but after gaining a sufficient understanding of the script, Taxi Driver becomes one of the most rewatchable picture I've ever seen. Its status as one of the greatest movies of the 70s and the greatest first person character study is absolutely justified and, while Joker was a very well done film, I think it's unfair to compare it to Taxi Driver.
The obvious bias Ralph is showing against Joker is due to the fact that it made a ton of money. I don't know the exact numbers but there is no doubt in my mind that during the time Joker was in theatres, it made more money than King of Comedy and Taxi Driver combined. And because he likes those films more than Joker, he felt the need to go on a crusade against the film. That is the only reason I can find to explain the childish temper tantrums he throws randomly throughout the video as well as literally making up themes and plot points within the movie that are obviously false and also building 100 metre tall strawmen left, right and centre. His video is filled with salt.
@vns P I don’t even think he likes those films more than Joker.
He just didn’t like Joker and need to prove what a -cunty snob- film connoisseur he is and reference the movies no one would know about unless Todd Philips had said he was inspired by them, so people would know he’s seen the real films, not the cheap, modern knockoff with money and no soul.
@@Longshanks1690 I can see that being the case as well yeah. I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt though. I haven't seen Ralph being involved in any other controversies so I guess I didn't want to go that far.
Christopher Marlowe eh that’s not accurate, YMS didn’t say he bangs animals. His words were along the lines of “if other people want to, and it doesn’t hurt the animal then it should be fine”. Yeah that’s still pretty weird but don’t exaggerate the truth
@@jebalitabb8228 I dunno, him advocating for bestiality really isn't higher on the moral scale than if he were to actually partake in it. I'd argue they're on the same level of bad.
Tony6Shot I think they’re both disturbing but the action is much worse than saying it’s okay for others
Literature Devil brings up Romeo and Juliet for how you can know how a movie ends without that detracting from the story, without pointing out: it literally opens with someone explaining how they die at the end.
Just to add on: Every Greek tragedy opens with the chorus telling you how the story ends. (The interest is in how you get there.) It’s actually a defining characteristic of Greek tragedies
This is the first time in my life that I heard ANYONE have anything negative to say about Taxi Driver. I felt exactly the way Mauler and Rags described what they felt. Every word mirrors how I felt. So many people call it their favorite movie. Three guys made me sit through this damn thing, each on a date, because they wanted to see it again so much and I wanted to please them. Each time, I hated it. And I thought there was something wrong or stupid about me that I didn't "get it." Then I thought maybe it was a movie only guys could appreciate - but is there such a thing?? I thought they would think I was a "dopey chick" for not idolizing it so I kept my mouth shut. It was SO SATISFYING to hear this. Thank you guys so much!! I love you RAGS and MAULER - you are my hero's!!
Should rename this video "EFAP has a BAD TAKE on Taxi Driver". Holy hell.
Taxi driver is the first time I REALLY disagree with you guys. To each his own, still love you guys
Yea, I found their Taxi Driver take really wrong. But whatever, still like a majority of their takes.
Timestamps:
0:00 - LateManBad. Introductions. The Phantom Guest. Man Who Stares At Clowns.
4:00 - Movie Homework. MauLer & Waggg's'sss's'z Bad "Taxi Driver" Takes.
16:00 - "Falling Down."
20:00 - "King of Comedy."
23:25 - Phantom Endings.
30:48 - "You Were Never Really Here." Which is the closest to Joker?
36:30 - Homage vs Rip-Off.
42:50 - Oscar Noms. "JoJo Rabbit." "Lighthouse." "Parasite." "1917."
48:00 - The Main Event. With preview Tisms.
55:30 - The Video Begins. CGI sugar-glass techniques.
1:08:30 -> Jay Enters, and still hasn't seen any movies.
1:12:00 - Comicbook movies, Ratings, and Tisms. Honest Opinions and Children.
1:24:55 - Jay has finally seen a movie.
1:38:38 - Ralph The Racist and Character Dimensions.
1:51:45 - Bigideas: On Comedy. The anti-simple movie plot. Joker's amazingly consistent plot. Kids are stupid assholes
2:00:15 - King of Comedy's subtletisms.
2:22:22 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had multiple beers.
2:39:30 - "Is something funny, asshole?"
2:53:00 - Dimensional Characters and Dreamlike Logic.
3:14:09 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had 3 beers.
3:35:25 - We Live in a Society.
3:47:30 - Character Agency. Did Ralph even watch the movie? The Insanity Font.
3:52:35 - Many = 2. Good Acting. Ralph didn't like the movie.
4:00:00 - Terrible Editing. Consistently Lying. Comedy & Maturity are not dichotomous.
4:06:13 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had *_four_* beers.
4:11:45 - Why Ralph is an idiot. With a side of "mature" comedy.
4:16:10 - Waggg's'sss's'z has _definitely_ had four beers. Citizen Kane is boring, and other Feelingtisms. You have to read books about the movie to appreciate it if it's good.
4:25:20 - Psychoanalyzing Ralph the Gatekeeper.
4:30:30 - Giving Waggg's'sss's'z peanut butter, and Freedomizing words. Also: Germany won't stop invading places.
4:33:15 - Ralph the FlipFlopper. Critictisms, Cheese, and Frenchtisms.
4:42:00 - Ralph the MetaNarrator gets swayed by Killer Crocotisms, and Hotdogglertisms, and musictisms.
4:48:40 - Ralph the MovieBob assassinating Jay. Freedomizing "banal." Soulless Photocopy Oscar-bait in Disguise.
4:57:50 - Ralph responds to his critics … from 3 years ago.
5:01:55 - Artistic Intent and Ralph the Jay Baumann. The Merry Goes Round Again. The Bat Connection.
5:09:15 - Is this supposed to be Alfred?
5:22:55 - Waggg's'sss's'z has had 3 _Tequilas._
5:30:05 - Tism Overload.
So. Much. Tism. … .
It's honestly been a while since I've seen a Ralp review, but I don't recall them ever being so...depressing? Heck, it doesn't even feel like Ralph, tbh, or maybe his older stuff was similar, but because the targets were films most people hated or thought were not great, they didn't feel as bad.
I wonder what happened that convinced him that the film was not great at all? Like him bringing up old films that are recognized as the "Golden Standard" for cinema is just him showing off that he went to film school and that Hollywood thinks old films that revolutionized the medium can hold up in today's market, despite film evolving beyond what the standards were back in the 60's. I really hope Sardonicast isn't turning him into a cynical person.
I typically enjoy Ralph's videos very much, but this one was just one stretched out cringe.