I am loving your content. Even now that they said they want to focus on solo work (and solo stans are celebrating) they made it very clear they want to be part of BTS for a long time.
we need more bangtan-centric content like this on the army corner of youtube. funny compilations are fine and dandy but we, as a community need to take ourselves and our space, specifically, who we let into it, a little more seriously.
even more so because i see a crazy amount of kpop video "essays" going around by multi stans who hate BTS, so whenever they talk about a topic where BTS is clearly involved and at the top, they never mention them. like, i just saw one about stage presence and live vocals and they pretend BTS don't even exist, it's weird.
@@lovelyy6491 multis, solos and shippers will never be army. they'll never prioritize bangtan, as men and artists because they don't SEE bangtan as people. or see any of the other kpop artists as people. they see them as tokens in a game. it's disgusting.
i agree so hard. i always find myself wishing we had more senior armys who made videos. it would help with the misinformation non armys spread too, since they a habit of flipping history lol (ive already seen this happen and ive only been in the fandom for over 2 years now 😬)
@@lovelyy6491 Ikr and if you write comment like why BTS isn't included ?? Kpoppies be like they are other groups too, not everything revolves around BTS
Solo stan test: If reading a comment praising a member of BTS that isn't your favorite offends you, you are a solo. If you disrespect or insult a member of BTS in the name if your favorite, you are a solo.
Solos are a disease. I met some people from my uni this year. I was staying in a hostel and they were my roommates. They claimed to be armys and I was so excited to finally share my experiences with irl armys They were maknae line baised, we got to know each other and I learned that they didn't know much about BTS, I assumed they became an army recently but they said that they've been an army for over a year. They only knew the 3 english songs and Idol which is fine okay whatever. What shocked me the most was that they hadn't even heard songs of their own bias' songs, not even one solo song from their bias. They would only ever talk about their fave's Instagram and TikTok edits. Once we were all sitting and explaining to other roommates why we love BTS and this one girl just pulls out her phone and start to ask others to rank the members based on their looks, I felt so uncomfortable. I'm a hobi biased and so she tries to tease me and show them Hobi's picture and they all literally laughed and made fun of his looks. That broke my heart. That was the day I realized just how toxic these solos can be, they're only here for the looks and not the talent. I never talked to her again. Solos are a disease and they spread their germs to other people. Sadly majority of people from my country are only here for the looks, they don't love the group, they only love their faves and that too only for their looks and not actual talent.
So sorry to hear but guess what hobi is actually charming his visuals are no joke and lately he's been glowing up more and more our sunshine they are just fakes I just hate it so much when people love someone bcz of their looks and majority I have encountered are tae biased and I wonder if they actually listen to him the only thing they have to brag about is his face and nothing else I mean that man has a voice he can dance so well focus on that but no we have to focus on his face not his voice,his talents
@@asilaman funny how the person I mentioned was also a Tae solo, they don't know any BTS songs except butter, dynamite, PTD. They don't even know tae's solo songs, I've seen them spending 90% of their time watching his IG and TikTok edits....
@@rusher0015 and sorry to say again these new so called armies which I don't consider them only are about TikTok like they don't even listen to any music but are like OMG I am BTS army yk they are so handsome blah blah and if u ask them if they know any music they are like oh...yeah I have heard butter and dynamite and if u ask them how long u have known like over a year or 6-8 months I am like bishes I even got the information of their blood group on the second week of staning and u don't even know a song really hurts me and yeah did u ask about any Tae's solo I bet that would have chocked that person with embarrassment it's better to shut these people right away
I was watching kbs for youth bts members fancam just yesterday And in jk fancam one person said "The greatest singer of kpop is standing majority of the song" something like that. The comments and replies were shading that bts is wasting his talent. All members got 2 to 3 lines to sing there are 7 member. I believe with jungkook adlips and bg vocals, he was the most busiest one. (It's just they didn't saw other member fancam and was expecting jk to sing most of the song) People also say jk never got a solo mv so he is mistreated. But jk himself said he was not confident enough before. You can clearly saw the difference in 2017 jk and 2020 jk. As a jk baised I can say he was never mistreated. But solo wouldn't understand this.
Yes exactly, especially when you hear how all the members talk about jk. RM saying that BTS couldn't exist without jk. The boy does the pre vocals before the rest of the members can hear the songs and can hear their parts done & the fact that he does adlibs and takes over for anyone whose missing during shows/concerts/live performance (for the most part) I'm not even a JK bias but still I can stand when solo stans do this stuff. Real ARMYS would call stuff out if they felt something was wrong with the group or treatment. If these so called solo stans really cared about their specific person then they wouldn't degrade the other members since the boys care so much about each other.
As a jk biased ARMY, i can confidently say that jungkook solo stans are the fucking worst. Like my gawd, they are terrible. I remember one time they were saying that jk wrote 100% of the lyrics for 'my time', but when you check the credits, there are multiple people who were involved. I'm all for praising the members for their writing and producing, but claiming that one person did everything all alone is discrediting everyone who worked so hard on the song, don't you think? Also, when you try to get some common sense into their thick skulls, they would start talking about how 'ARMYs really hate jk' We can never win.💀
@@flovonnejohnson707 I think before 2020 the solo fans r very few in numbers, after pandemic and dynamite the numbers just increased. Before there was a balance among the members line distribution. We army r saying for 0t7, the line distribution doesn't matter but when a song release just went through the comment section some of the members get highlighted too much because in the song one member stand out more than others. The fans who r following bts for many years this thing highlighted infront of their eyes. Most of the solos actually used to have a bias before, they were 0t7. But after long period they become solo. We sometimes say bts r happy with everything but if they r happy then why their focus on their solos now?! Every member have some speciality in them but after sometimes they have to abandon their speciality for the team which I think mistreatment to them. I think we should focus on bts rather than attacking solos. Solos exist in every fandom, it's nothing new. Ot7 is a myth, I saw many army 0t7 accounts have their own favourite so I don't believe in this 0t7 theory.
@@faizasamin13 i think you might have misinterpreted my statement. Of course I know that all solos arnt like that. Generalizations never work. But ALOT of solos say some horrible things about the other members. I've seen solo stans demonize other members for just touching their favs. I don't like it when the other members are disregarded but that different from having a bias or even a ultimate bias. I do understand that in earlier vids some were highlighted more (army since 2014, I was soo excited when I started seeing Jin have more lines). But people don't have to punch down to lift their favorite up. And alot of them do that especially jk solo stans forgetting how much jk loves and respects the rest of the members or that we wouldn't even have the jk that we know and love if it wasn't for RM. We all know that they arnt always happy (at least the armys that were there from the beginning know and we constantly ask if they're ok and if they're resting ect) we've all been waiting for them to do their solo stuff, especially the vocalists....... (my comment wasn't even about their actual careers in that sense but more on how the so called fans and solo fans sometimes disregard the rest of the group and their input as a group and team). It can come off as "the rest don't matter" and can sometimes rub me the wrong way. 🤷🏾♀️ that's all my comment was really addressing 🤗💜
@@faizasamin13 But the significant deifference of being 0t7 and being a solo stan, which i believe are antis no matter what. Is that 0t7 fans will never punch down, discredit, or drag another member. 0t7 would still support the boys individual works wether it be simply playing their solos song on spotify and voting. Solos, however, will have favorites and pick and choose the projects that their "fav" participated in, an example can be found when Tae solo stans were planning on boycotting BE but then found out Blue and Gray was produced by taehyung. Same thing with his soindcloud releases, why do tae solos hype up Snow Flower ft. peakboy more than 4 o'clock ft. RM? Why do they like wooga squad more than the 10 years and more love he has for Bangtan? All these questions can be applied to other solos as well. Even if you think there are "peacefull" solos, they will still follow, like and retweet content from big solo antis. Theyve sadly been growing and gaining 1k+ likes without armys even noticing, and some of them directly affect the boys by spreading false information just to shame them (example is jimins tax issue being leaked and messed up by his manager and maknae solos dragging him for it). So no, i dont think there are "good" solo stans, if there were there would be lots of them who call out their own breed for the horrible acts they do.
my thing with solo fans is i just feel bad for them, because even when bts does solo projects especially with the rap line they always always thank army! they only ever acknowledge their army, it’s never “thank you army and my other fans” to them all the ppl that support them are ppl who support the group too, you can’t separate one of them from the group even in solo projects bc they don’t even do that to themselves
TRUE i must say Taehyung has the biggest solo stans in BTS.... them ignoring his feelings,his sentiments of BTS is always 7 and pushing the solo agenda for each and everything...like no Taehyung only knows ARMy Taehyung only loves army BTS only knows armys and no BTS member would ever appreciate the so called "fans" who give themselves names like "kths solos", *jjk *,*pjms* ...like bts won't ever will say fans instead of army's...solos are proving how unwanted they're
@@Arpitae yess, and they always say that we armys ignore Tae and don't support his solo projects. And victimizing Tae is their main job, they victimize him more than supporting him. And Jungkook's solosers are getting outta hand too. They need to stay outta the boys life and the army fandom, like the audacity they have to be in armytwt and talk shit and bully ot7 acc and insult other members.
@@leehans_aquarium U forgot jimin solo stan making sexual edits of Jungkook whenever Jungkook won against Jimin in awards or even Jungkook has awards that they want for Jimin. Also, hyung line solo stans victimizing bts hyung line as well they have same mindset of v akgae.
Blaming Hybe has got to be one of the laziest excuses from a solo, they would rather cry about mistreatment than find out actual facts. I've seen solos trash RM because of his non mention of China in the Korean War, not because of any standing of knowledge of what happened, but because the backlash towards BTS made V look bad, insanity is all it is. Solos even if they aren't being load they hurt the group, they don't focus on OT7 during combacks, but will put all their efforts into promoting their favorites solo track. Solo stans also run the risk of hurting their favorite, they typically praise the hell out of any and everything they put out, a small snippet of a demo suddenly becomes the greatest, most beautiful song ever heard. This type of mindless hype will put brakes on any growth or creative development of an artist. BTS members are really down to earth and no matter how big they get will always strive to do better, but can you imagine anybody who's biggest motivation comes from popularity, they would stop trying to get better because there really is no where else to go once you have full adoration.
I thought I was the only one who didn't like solo stans-💀 *Taehyung getting 5 seconds less of screentime* No one: Absolutely no one: Taehyung solo stans: hybe is mIsTreAtInG hIm, he deserves more!! Your channel is amazing, I hope you get more views
If someone is mistreating a member it's often the fans themselves. Saying this or that member has the best voice, the best rap, the worse this the worse that...It's alright to have your personal taste and prefer a voice over another, a style over another... doesn't make it better though. My bias is Jin, it doesn't mean that he's better than any of the other members and I sure as hell cannot stand anyone bringing the other members down. I'm still 0t7 at the end of the day. I can't even imagine BTS without one of the members.
@@betxengi5388 Shippers creep me out, especially the Taekook ones that analyse every little thing. Whether it's true or not, it's fucking weird. Shipping fictional characters with fervor is ok but shipping real people is plain creepy !
What baffles me most about solos is that they completely ignore what their favourite says. I saw a JK solo bashing Namjoon because he got more writing credits. They were extremely rude about it too. Knowing how much JK loves RM I can't imagine how their minds compartmentalise to be able to villainise other members like that. That same thing happens a lot with some shippers (not all), mostly maknae line... I really wonder, do they even know anything about their fave apart from the way they look?
I feel quite sure they themselves don't even know their bias very well. Last night JK hit #1 on BBH100 with Seven, and of course the solos started crying. One of the them started calling Army names and saying that Suga is not JK's cheerleader when he actually said on Suchwita he hoped JK's single would hit #1. ON SUCHWITA, a show he literally made so he could be a cheerleader for the other members. So no, I don't think they even pay that much attention to their own bias and what they say/do.
This video has a lot of great points when it comes to toxic Army! When I was baby Army I was mostly on TH-cam and Weverse. It was months before I started following Twitter, FB, and Instagram Army accounts! That’s when I learned about solos and antis! When ON was are first real chance to get our boys a top 10 on Billboard was when I truly realized what a pain in the butt they could be to Army! When we were trying to get Dynamite to #1 on Billboard’s Hot 100 is what sent it over the top for me! Army was literally working 24/7 asking for donations, radio requests, playlist, and streaming! What were solos doing? Complaining to Hybe about how many lines their solo had in the song! Or how much screen time in the video! One of the big donations accounts said they asked a couple of major solo accounts for help and they refused! Saying it wasn’t their problem! I was shocked! 😮 At first I couldn’t understand how someone could call themselves Army and only support ONE member! Was this the upside down? I finally checked out those accounts and got my answers! WOW, they were SO EXTREME that I thought they were antis pretending to be a army solo! Unfortunately I was wrong. They were crazy, disrespectful, and over the top! How can you listen to BTS’s message of “WE ARE SEVEN!” and call yourself Army? Just like with antis I couldn’t block them fast enough! We can’t weed them all out but we can still try! Again great video!
I don't think they can be referred to as ARMY if they don't support BTS and only support individual members. I'm so fed up with I'm going start calling them out telling them they are hurting the very person they are pretending to like.
They all have freedom to do what they want. Solos are complaining some members don't have songs compared to other members. Do they ever think about how hard it is to make music. Rapline has always been making music from the beginning. They have talents and experience. They make their own mixtapes and albums as well. When making solo music they have to do everything by themselves. And it hard. Have you seen how tired they look when they do it all. Recent example is Jhope. He was in a dark place and lost so much weight as well. He worked so hard and did everything by himself. Others are doing it as we speak. They are always making content. Creativity don't come easily. They need inspiration, experience, talent to express it and so much more. It's f***ng hard to do that. It takes time. BTS members are perfectionists as well so they try even more. If you remember Jungkook talking about his mixtape back in the day, he must have not been that confident. He talks about how he need time and take long time to do his work. Just because you want to make a song doesn't mean you can. I'm sure they want to do more all the time. Rappers are talented and works for group music and solo music. And do these solos know how much RM help the vocal line to make their songs? He has credits everywhere even in vocal members solo songs. For example You've seen how RM helped Jimin to write promise. Jimin must have wanted to write it by himself but it's not easy to make a f**ng hit song. Of course solo stans don't see all this. Jimin said in Be-hind interview done by members themselves that he tried hard to write Christmas love but was going to give up until RM wrote lyrics and send it to Jimin in the middle of the night. And Jimin said since RM worked so hard he has to finish it no matter what and how he worked all night to do it and released it in a hurry the next day. Solo stans forget all these details when they start complaining. This is just one example. Jin also said this. How he asked RM for help in the same interview. They are a team. They have no problem with helping each other. And they are not greedy. They wouldn't be this successful if they were. After rapline, Jungkook is the one that has developed the most in making music. Out of the vocal line he has always done lot of solo projects. Have a lot of credits as well and that's why i think so. I'm sure other 3 try hard as well. They always have. And have done amazing work. I'm sure they want to do more and they say it as well. They talk about these things often. V recently said how he's not satisfied with his album. But everyone around him encourage him to it. It's his own decision to do as he please. He said in his vlog for us to wait. Others are working as well. And we'll get to see how much they have improved. We'll see more from everyone eventually. It's their own decision. They decide the time and has to be confident and sure about the work before releasing it. They have talked about this if solo stans pay attention they know all this. Honestly i agree with you. Lots of these solos could be trying to rip the group apart because they are jealous of BTS success. I can see from the comments all over the internet how desperate they sound.
I swear solos would see a photo where Suga is in the center of the image and go “THIS IS MISTREATMENT OF TAEHYUNG!!! HE CAN’T BE IN THE CENTER OF 99.9% OF BTS PHOTOS IT HAS TO BE 100%”
Like how can you not love all of them? All 7 of them are wonderful artists and they are their best selves when they are together. Idk how many times they've said stuff like that themselves.
So I watched this video again after getting into a stupid argument with a solo. I dont understand them. They'll be solo fans and completely disregard their fave's words. BTS are at their best and happiest when they are together. Its beyond obvious and they're all amazing. OT7 man.
@@ToxicNeon I believe it's a projection thing. "I only love so-and-so, he's the only one with real talent and (blah blah blah) so obviously he feels the same way about those people riding his coattails as I do. He's sooooo sweet to put up with their $%@ the way he does."
you always speak real! people who only stan certain members and exclude others (ot6/ot5, etc), deranged, toxic shippers, mantis (manager armys) and company stans are antis too. they all disregard bts' words and speak over them because they think they know what's best for them/what they want when they're really pushing their own ideas/fantasies about bts' thoughts and desires.
you did a great job by highlighting those company stans cus those stans also pisses me off! they always disregard bts abd always sides their company like we are here for bts not that company 😭 And if we call out company or company stans they label us as antis like make it make sense stanning loving bts≠ stanning that company
Thank you. I came here after I saw some solos were holding a twitter protest after one member's bangtan bomb was released and an another's wasn't; it kind of got me all riled up and annoyed. Why do they pretend like the members are children who need to looked after? They are grown men who can speak their mind. If they are unhappy with something they will say so. We see maybe 1% of their lives through V-lives, performances, shows and articles; pretending to know their state of mind and launching protest is so childish. Love your work! It is always well researched - keep at it!
Thank you very much for this very detailed explanation. These solo stans not true ARMY. BTS themselves would not like those who belittle other members who are their best friends and brothers. Do these solo stans don't understand that their bias will not like what they are doing?
Not just tae's. It's literally for all the members I literally saw a 20yo man Jimin solo stan on twt yesterday and he was hating on the others so bad 😔 like bruh you're old enough for this sh1t
@@taetuary true 👍, but V's are out of this world, I've met two who knew almost nothing about his solo works, it was all about his looks, tiktok edits, expressions and Instagram. One of the most creepy conversations i have ever had....It felt like he was not human.
Here’s the thing. I’ve come across some solo stans online who say that they only care about one member, but they don’t disrespect the others (that would be considered being an anti). I’ve even seen some who say that they’re fine with not being army, and don’t want to be. But that still confounds me immensely. How can you not love every single member? How can you not appreciate every single one of these seven wonderful men? I understand having a bias (I’m ot7 myself), but being a solo stan perplexes me when it comes to BTS especially. Like when I first discovered BTS, I wanted to get to know each one. And I did, and I’ve fallen in love with all of their personalities. Solo stans confuse me endlessly.
Oh that's really interesting, I never actually knew that that's how they distributed lines, idk how I didn't know. I always see people wishing some people had more lines, but I definitely think there's two types of people, the ones who just want to hear more from everyone because ot7 lol, and then there's the ones you described, which are really harmful.
My ult bias is Jin and you can't exactly control whether you have a bias or not BUT imagine bringing the other members down to make your bias look better, smh. At the end of the day I'm ot7 and I can't stand people that are nasty to any of the members. BTS needs all of the members to be BTS. When you bring one of the members down you bring one of your bias' brothers down. Now that they're doing solo stuff for a bit, army needs to support each of the members otherwise are you really allowed to call yourself army ? You have the right to prefer this or that project BUT you should still appreciate all of the boys' dedication to their art and to army.
Very well said! Also, I agree with your theory at the end of the video. The majority of solos I’ve came across were fans of other groups (and I suspect they wanted BTS to disband so those groups would have a “chance”), and the very few individuals that stanned only one BTS member and didn’t stan other groups were actually sasaengs of said members (just think of he4dliner jk for example)! Can’t help but notice that either of them actually ruthlessly disrespect the members they so firmly say they “love”.
I’m enjoying the variety of activities each member is getting to do because they took a hiatus from group schedules and as Rm said they needed to venture out of their comfort zones to recharge their creative energy i love them together and i love them individually
i adore your content. you're objective, down to earth and there is absolutely zero pretension or arrogance in your tone. we need more people like you in this fandom.
Maknae line solo stans are the absolute worst breed. They really can't tolerate anyone other than their bias getting praised. Jin is my favorite, I am genuinely a huge fan of his songs and his vocals because he resembles some of the classical singers I grew up listening to, and I always leave a positive comment about him wherever I can. But I've never been able to do so without the maknae line stans spamming their hate & toxicity. I've seen this happen every time someone praises the hyung line. I don't understand how someone can be so vile and gross when their supposed idols are such nice & sweet human beings.
This is so much needed in their ch 2 Thank you for making this, recently solos of one member were boycotting his work just because the promotion of their fav was not according to their wish . He came and talked about it on live too it's so sad the members already said the promotions are all according to their will yet these people move like antis :(
I'm multi stan & an armyblink. But recently blackpink trying to steal others idol achievements without hesitation. Even their recently released song "The girls " was full about hate toward BTS & others kpop idols. And I felt ashamed of being a blink. So I left this toxic fandom forever. And will stay just army forever. I want to say something to blinkarmy as a ex - blink, :- How can you still love liars who don’t achieved anything but steal others credits & never communicate with their fan. I just share my own opinion. So no hates to others blinks (who still ridiculously support their hilarious ig models). I'm sry but not feeling bad. (Obviously not, after leaving bp, I felt quite easy).
I myself were very afraid of solo stans that I couldn't claim my bias (jungkoook) fearing that I would fall to be one of them but thankfully I've come to learn that it's okay to have bias (basically someone to relate to the most like a twin) and at the same time I've grown to love the other members equally that I love them in all what they do whether solo work or group work as they always represent home to me
The less number of views tells how solo stans are afraid to know their truth 😗 and i wanna tell that if any member do a solo project they thanks army not say army and my fans.... so plzz solo stans if u wanna support one member you do but at least do not leave delusional comments like ooo my my bias is getting mistreated like seriously it's just sound worse when they are clearly not 😑
You mentioned OT7 but you forgot the fake type of OT7 which is the OT6 fans who somehow like all the members except for one and you can tell just by the way they mention everyone except for that one member . Also OT2 fans who are mostly shippers . And OT3 (only like the maknae line) . And OT4 (only like the hyung line)
The way you comment like this make me think you are a solo Stan. Because it's their narrative to say that most of Army are OT6 because they haven't never satisfied with what the guys decided for themselves. I know there are namy Army who are here for 2 or 4 or 3 members and those fake army are the most annoying fans because they can't support all the boys. For example Hyung line receive less support that manae line for their Solo songs. Support all the members
@@KouassiSonia i agree with you !! most solo stans complain about armys being fake ot7. because they badly want to believe that their fav member is being mistreated by armys
@@KouassiSonia there are a lot of them exposed tho, big ot7 acc that turned out to be an anti of a certain member. theirs stans will notice it but wont make a lot of noise since people just accuse them of being solos, then eventually those big accs eventually exposed themselves and threads exposing them blows up with evidences provided by those accused by being solos
@@KouassiSonia just because someone said reality ,you are going to make them solo fans , akgaes and solos are different , same as fake OT7 and OT7 are different! There is literally expose of big accounts shading one member but still call themselves ARMY . I mean it's ok if you Stan some or one , it's your opinion ,but you don't need to hate others and it applies for both solos and ARMYs
Your content is so educatuional and truthful, I hope you will do a video on toxic shippers/shipping and why Western music fans need to educate themselves on Korean culture (skinship) to understand how Korean people interact before getting into Kpop
This video deserves many many views this is the reality solos are miserable and friendless people who wants to protray their miserable life on bts like grow up they're 7 and they'll be seven 🤍 solos are just antis of other members and sets their supposed fav every damn time up. solos deserves hell
my bias keeps on changing ..i literally love all of them . i personally like jimin's voice alot but ot7 bts is what i love the most , they're the best when they're together ...
*Finally i found someone who thinks like me!!! I totally agree with everything you said! 💯* Like their's a difference between having a bias & being a solo stan..idk why some choose to be solo stan or associate themselves with that t0x!c term, when you can be Army and hv bias & support, love your fav lil more than others.. nothing could change the fact for me that "choosing" to be a solo stan rather than having a bias in BTS, and being an Army, is infact the example of having "t0x!c mindset" itself! Like how can someone not love all 7 members?! I don't get that kind of thinking..like doesn't solo stans even hv enough love to spread? Are they so short of love in their life? What's there not to love about any member? It's a sign of twisted mindset.. it's a messed up mindset for me..if someone says they choose to be solo stan and say "i respect others members & i don't bring them down" it's a big lie, a lie they are telling others and a lie they are telling themselves in order to justify their mindset ngl..like no one can convince me that a solo stan of perticular member doesn't victimize their idol all the time, that they don't make it a competition between members, that they don't feel jeal0us when other members do well or get praised, rather than their idol..even if they try to convince themselves that they are not t0xic, in reality they are hypocrites who try to paint their idol as superior to other members, constantly comparing their achievements with other, what not competition between members, solo stans are ppl who doesn't hv respect or love for other members or even their idol tbh, they just want to victimize their idols so that they can act as some freaking "saviours of their idol"😃 as if that grown a$$ man who can make his own decisions , speak for himself, stand up for himself, needs these so called kids called "solo stans" to save him from non existent drama🗿he doesn't need ppl with low self esteem who choose to be a solo to act as a saviour of some kind lmao..solo stans fail to see that their idol is where he is cuz of hardwork of all 7 members together, blood, sweat & tears of all 7, that their idol would choose his members over these so called solo stans anytime, that their idol genuinely loves his members and fans(Armys), who love them all and who are able to see that if there wasn't even 1 member in BTS, they wouldn't be what they are now as artists and as individuals! Who see hardwork of all 7 members, who acknowledge, respect & love them all individually and as a group, it's Army not solo stans, Armys are the one who acknowledge this fact, not solos who try to hide behind the mask of "oh respect all the members, I'm kind" sh*t! No one can convince me that a solo stan is a person with sane mind, for me they are and will always be twisted minded ppl with low self esteem and low on love in life! Like choosing to be a solo stan when you can be an Army with having a bias? Tbh i think solo stans are the most brainwashed ppl, they think that their idol is mistreated (again victimizing) & this i belive is done by some big account old solo stans, who try to brainwash these new Armys to think that way, that their bias doesn't get love from Armys, so the solution is to be a ✨solo stan✨ stupid..and the baby Armys who are brainwashed are stupidest (if that is even a word)
I'm not sure if I agree with the end theory mainly bc from what I've seen solos are completely obsessed with their favorite member and only them. I think it might have to do with jealousy more than anything: jealousy they have to share the member with armys who also love the other 6 members, jealousy that they won't get solo tours (most likely), that the boys love and put the members first. Also the savior's complex: the member has to be miserable in order for the so called fan to be of some sort of relevancy to the member they "love". They need to feel importance, to feel like they're smarter than Armys and like they're the heroes and we're the enemies. It bothers me a bit that so much of the bad behaviors get thrown towards multistans when so many of us dedicate ourselves to BTS with all we have, they're number one for many of us (myself included), but we also love other groups. In fact, in my country at least, I've mainly observe this savior behavior from Only Armys! I always comment that I think the fact that they seem to not know any other companies as well as maybe someone who is a multi does probably contributes in creating these ideas. I'm a Neverland and I've seen just how horrible a company can be by witnessing the mistreatment (G)I-dle goes through. I know how an idol behaves when they don't like their company bc I see (G)I-dle "jokingly" talk crap about Cube any chance they get, specially since they kicked out one of their members. And Idle is one of those groups that have a lot of creative freedom, so I can't imagine how it is for groups in companies that control everything. I know it was probably not your intention to throw shade at all multis and that a lot of ppl would say "if it doesn't apply to you don't feel offended", but it's just that Armys who are multi get so much sh*t and so many ppl even say we're not real Armys, which can be really discouraging when it comes to fandom interaction. I really wish ppl would analyse individuals instead of lumping us all with antis (again, not saying that's what you did, just a comment). This video is incredible and I really wish more ppl would see it, specially mantis as they seem to constantly fall for whatever bs solos spread. Even if we just analyse it from a capitalist pov Hybe and BigHit would be incredibly stupid to mistreat their biggest source of income, specially considering that so many labels would kill to have them!
We share the same ending theory. People who Stan the less globally-popular groups are the ones who only root for literally one bts member and try to stir up strange rumors and drama.
I hate solo stans. I mean if you wanna get called army don't dare to be a solo stan. And having bias is okay until and unless you don't bring others down. The more solo stans we have, the more toxic we get
I, like others below, also love what you are doing. I have never really thought about, or come across, the kind of solo stan you describe. Most people I know will say they are OT7 but within that, their bias is ..., which is, I think different. Without analysing the matter in the way you have done, if I had ever met someone who said they only like (one member), I would never have counted them as ARMY. But, actually, I wonder if they would ever frame their thinking in that way, or would they say they like BTS but have one favourite. I certainly find that some complaints about "mistreatment" or line distribution have been rather immature, and have, when I see them, challenged them albeit gently. Many ARMYs ARE still young and sometimes over sensitive, as we all can be at times. I've found that they seem to accept what I say (usually that BTS makes the decisions themselves, and I trust their wisdom) in good part.
Big love to u for this.....💜🤗 the solos always think thier fav r mistreated but they really forget that the 7 of them r grown up man they take thier own decisions....💜
They’re hypocritical. They bully ARMYS for “not loving” one of the members when they’re the ones who actively hate all members except their chosen victim 🙄 Not to mention y’all need to wake up and realise that most of the “jungkook baidu bars” or “yoongi baidu bars” are solos and they have massive competitions with eachother to afford the most expensive gift for that member. Not bc they actually care.
I always thought this line distribution issue was really stupid and I'm happy to see so many people agree lol. Not everything has to be exactly equal all the time, and sometimes there is a lot of stuff that happens behind the scenes that you don't see so you can't even say that one person was not allowed an opportunity to contribute this and that. All they care about it what's on the surface when there's so much more happening under the surface that they don't see. And I think it's an insult to the guys that these solos think they know better than the members themselves about what's good for them.
I AM SO THANKFUL TO YOU. I became an ARMY in Oct 2020, and when i joined twitter, i was so fed up and annoyed because since then if anything new was released you will surely see a hashtag with a member's name being mistreated by bighit and if we try to correct them, they will even question your loyalty as an OT7. I am going to share this link and let them know that they are actually solo stans in disguise of so called OT7
i just found your channel through your recent video abt longevity being in my recommended and am excited to dive into your other videos! i love your channel name :) I hope this video gets a lot more attention, it’s something that’s been talked about for a while now on like twt obviously but it’s important to keep disputing this stuff to keep them away from our spaces and stop letting ppl fall into their narratives. Esp in this next period where I’m ngl I hope solos don’t get even more unbearable and new fans who come in from solo work don’t fall for their bs, treat them like the antis they are 😪 they’re all miserable people in every aspect and rlly are all fans of other groups. I think that since THEIR fav groups don’t have as much freedom like bts or aren’t as sincere or close family as them, the fact bts isn’t like these other groups blows their minds so they become in denial and create all those crazy ass theories and nitpick everything. They pick the member they hate the “least” and run w it. they hate bts more than they supposedly love their fav, their accounts are just a platform to spread bts hate. Also wanna add that I agree there are Nooo good solos. Even if they don’t disrespect the other members, it validates/amplifies all other solo antis and gives them a space to exist. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a solo not be weird towards the other members anyway. It’s also why diet solos are a problem
i totally agree with everything you said. even though i made this video before the announcement of their solo projects, my point still stands. their fans will still be called armys and solos will continue being antis. thank you so much for your comment about the channel!! i'm preparing lots of new content😊
I agree with almost everything you've said and yes, solo/akgae fans are very toxic and a disease for any fandom, but I definitely don't agree with dragging other groups into this and looking down on them when there is no need for that, especially since plenty of other groups do have creative freedom and make their own music, as well as tight knit family like bonds and friendships.
@@Kalakeikowhat it has to do with the topic and many solo fb admin has been exposed to be in gc with Kpoppies and even making a project to token stan a random member to create rift within fandom, it was part of their gc of 10 k people, no we are not making things up
@@blossom6693 I never said that anyone made things up? My response was based on a part of this comment and the way they dragged other groups into this topic for no reason, that is all because there was no need for that.
Solo's are a disease in the fandom, ppl say that hyung line stan's are much more loyal than maknae line stan, but in my opinion all of the 7 stan's can be bad bc I have also seen some toxic hyung line stan's before. I do get kinda scared of one of my friends bc she is Namjoon biased, I did one time said "what will be your reaction if Namjoon had a girl/boyfriend" and she said she will get made at him, she only really gets merch from Namjoon she barely gets any merch from the other members(which I really hate it when ppl only by merch from 1 member), she did voted that she only likes 1 member in one of my tik toks which scared me, and she also barely pays attention to BTS and only really pays attention to Namjoon. She does have a disability but still
It's been 9 months to this video. And to this day, solo stans complaints are rising day by day. 🤷 No matter how hard you try to ignore it, it still bothers somehow.
@@leehans_aquarium Yea it's so sad. I heard that. He's closing his account because of these toxic people. 🥺 He's been doing an amazing job. I wish he ignores them and continue doing what he's best at. 🙏
Some solo stands in my opinion, don't even like or respect the artist they stand . What they like is the image they created in their mind of that artist (fantasy)and not the real person. Because if they did, (in the case of BTS) they would respect all the other members of the band. We all know how close the members of BTS are, how much they care for each other, how much they support and respect each other, and we all know their message of love, peace... While the message of these solo stands is completely opposite to the message conveyed by BTS and some of them are really nasty in their comments about the other members...
Algo que siempre me molesta y que lo veo como una especie de comportamiento muy normal en el mundo del kpop en general (aclaro que soy only army pero esto ya lo ví) es como los fans tratan a los idols cómo nenes chiquitos que no pueden tomar sus propias decisiones solos y que la empresa es la culpable de todos los pensamientos o las acciones que cometen los idols. Y eso es tan preocupante considerando que estamos hablando de personas adultas pasados de los 20 que ya seguramente saben cómo funciona el mundo de la fama y el entrenamiento y aún así su público elige tratarlos como almas vírgenes y sagradas que deben ser protegidas a todo costa. Es muy creepy Por cierto me encanta tu canal y tu contenido sos la mejor!
Yes they are solo, ot3 ot6 ot2 etc But there are some who says they are army but if u ask them do u know their name? Yes. Do u know their real name?? Hmm yeah but only 2 3 members. What is ur fvrt song? Butter(bcz they knew only butter no other song) Have u watched run bts?? What it means So I can give many example like this. They say they are army but they doesnt even listen their song, doesnt know about anything like nothing. They will see bts on youtube shorts thats it. They are just behind visual and fame of BTS. Such people are not Army. And unfortunately they are my cousins.
I wouldn’t call a solo stan a fan because if they were they would love all 7 of the boys as they are all incredibly talented and just genuine and lovely guys. It’s fine to have a bias but solo stans have ulterior motives for sure.
I've actually have one video where I asked army's if they are truly army's and if they are OT7 of if they only like one member, and 94% of them pick OT7, but there was a 6% that scared me bc 2 of them already admitted that their not BTS army 5 of them admitted that they are army's and 1 of them was one of my friends
Kontennya bagus 👍 Tidak apa-apa punya solo stan, sebab setiap ARMY punya bias masing-masing. Tapi kalau solo stan mulai menilai/berpikir negatif terhadap member lain/perusahaan, mereka sebenarnya termasuk haters berkedok ARMY. Mereka ini berbahaya, sebab berniat menghasut/adu domba. Hati-hati My 💪 BTS adalah 7, ARMY 💜 BTS
The two categories of people that I can't call fans/ARMYs are solos and shippers... Jungkook is my bias but I always say that the others are just as talented, awesome, beautiful, etc. I really love all the work they do, the people they are, I'm proud of them all. And I do not tolerate any disrespect towards anyone. Being a very sensitive person, I react very quickly and I often get defensive when people talk about BTS! Even with videos that are intended to be harmless and funny, I am wary, I very often end up regretting having started watching the video... Especially when Jk is the subject (because he is their favorite target) of mockery at through the video and/or in the comments. I mentioned the shippers because they are really toxic and completely delusional. I'm sure a tiny part of them are harmless but I can't stand the content at all anymore, especially when it concerns Jungkook. I fell into their trap at the beginning of my BTS journey and then quickly realized that there was a lot of weird stuff in their videos, especially when you watch the original content in full. There are exceptions like the videos of Jungkook and a member of the hyung line because often they are cute and/or funny videos but nothing cringe. Since most people don't ship them, they just want to show off their interactions and the kind of brotherhood they have. But as soon as the title includes the word "jealousy", it makes me cringe and I skip the video. Anyway, that's not what I meant initially but I always overshare, sorry. I wanted to give an example with Jk's G.C.F in Tokyo (feat. Jimin as main character). I came to admire the work of my bias and then I wanted to know the opinions of others... I didn't read all the comments but I was shocked and disappointed because instead of talking about the video and Jungkook's work, people kept saying the same thing over and over again. They were all talking about Jimin and saying crappy things about their ship.
I know so many people who say they are "ARMY" and they have heard 3 songs or something and if I heard about calling the members as husband I'm tailing out of there. They only care about that tagging ARMY will make them look cool or whatever. And completely disregard Hyung line. I know many younger fans have Maknae line as their bias, there is nothing wrong with that. The problem happens when they cross their boundaries, disliking other members just because of line distribution or screen time, blah blah. Honey, you need to understand it's 7 or nothing. If you are claiming to be an ARMY, you have to respect and love each member and the group as a whole, it's 7 or nothing. Also, I want to say that if someone claim their ARMY and don't know anything about their music or only care about their achievements and awards, it's a big red flag. I understand if you're new to the BTS hole please, do discover their old releases, there are hidden gems in them. I still know so many "ARMY'S" who don't even know dark and wild exists or face yourself album exists. As an ARMY we support each member solos, mixtapes, playlists and their group projects wholeheartedly and as ardently as we can.
So well said, this is what solo stand should know and learn and stop spreading rumour about mistretaments. The most important thing is, if there’s a mistreatment, would they just leave it like that? They are adults and talented so they can speak for themselves (it’s their most important value: ‘speak yourself’)… Thank you so much, your content alway brilliant, on point and useful…
Even more toxic crazy solo stans now. I wonder how old they are. They are so delusional it’s hard to understand where they come up with wild accusations.
i firmly believe they are tiktok kids stumbling upon bts and latching onto one member because of his image and thats it. they will grow out of it, i hope
You forgot to mention the most important thing which is them hating on the other members and making accounts on twt with thousands of followers just bashing the other members
It really sounds good to love them equally but actually it's not really possible and it's ok to do so until and unless you disrespecting and putting a blind eye on other members. It's ok to love one but it's necessary to support all that they deserve 🤗🤗
There is a difference between loving all members but having one(s) you love more (that's why the terms bias and ultimate bias exist) vs people who only care about a single member and disregard the entire group just so they can get more "content" out of their fav member
I understand that about line distribution but I still wish it was little bit more fair. Specially for Jin. Some song’s line distribution is really messy.like literally one or two lines for him. At least they could give him more screen time. Because it matters a lot.people often sleep on him due to lack of lines and screen time. They must have equal lines considering all the songs but when it comes to their main songs until recent tomes Jin has less lines. Not only him also v and the rap line too.
Just found this video. I’ve been ARMY for several years now. I understand the position of leader. I have always thought Jungkook is main vocal because he does ad libs, support other singers during chorus, guide and has steady vocal range.
You know I love Jimin and I mostly support him but I do care about all of them and I can't take it and despise when they talk horribly about the other members. How can you say you love one member and hate the people that he loves?......Jimin adores Namjun, Jin, Yoongi, Taehyung, Hobi and Jeongguk and how can you think they won't be in each others lives?.....that's foolish to think that.
wow i am really impressed by your video. i have never seen these clips before and i have noticed when solo stans do this. now it´s JK solo stans on the billboard. i mean since he is part of bts i love him to but choosing to support that song except for a bts song like bad decisions. it´s like they dont want anything to do with other members but charlie puth is okay to share a song with?? i dont get it. it it was a song between jk and jimin v solo stans would try and raise one of V´s solo songs. are they afraid their bias would be forgotten or what? ore are they jealous of them.
There's myth that akgae and solo stans are different like yes akgaes are vile they always bash tannies but solo stans are no better. Cus they chose to stan one particular mmbr from a group of 7 like as we all know bts love n adore eo and solos claim to stan theirfav and respect others meanwhile they are associated with those vile akgaes who bashes or drags mmbrs every time so in conclusion those solos see those hate and hype those akgaes rather than stopping them so solos are no better and are bound to hate others so according to me solos= akgaes= antis (CASE CLOSED CUS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO STAN ONE AND HATE OTHERS LIKE BE SERIOUSL GET HELP FIND FRIENDS FOR YOUR FRIENDLESS LIFE STOP PORTRAYING YOUR MISERY AND LONELY LIFE ON THOSE 7 GROWN ADULTS)
I am loving your content. Even now that they said they want to focus on solo work (and solo stans are celebrating) they made it very clear they want to be part of BTS for a long time.
thank you!! and yes, their new projects will still be for armys, not for solos
correct 😊
@@boracitymagazine Correct and am supporting them all as individual and as a group.
@@boracitymagazine For people who loves them genuinely not just an army because some army or they called themselves army is not really an ot7.
Solos are like those annoying relatives who bring nothing to the table other than giving their two cent opinion which no one asked.....
Yeah you said damn true
we need more bangtan-centric content like this on the army corner of youtube. funny compilations are fine and dandy but we, as a community need to take ourselves and our space, specifically, who we let into it, a little more seriously.
even more so because i see a crazy amount of kpop video "essays" going around by multi stans who hate BTS, so whenever they talk about a topic where BTS is clearly involved and at the top, they never mention them. like, i just saw one about stage presence and live vocals and they pretend BTS don't even exist, it's weird.
@@lovelyy6491 multis, solos and shippers will never be army. they'll never prioritize bangtan, as men and artists because they don't SEE bangtan as people. or see any of the other kpop artists as people. they see them as tokens in a game. it's disgusting.
i agree so hard. i always find myself wishing we had more senior armys who made videos. it would help with the misinformation non armys spread too, since they a habit of flipping history lol (ive already seen this happen and ive only been in the fandom for over 2 years now 😬)
@@lovelyy6491 Ikr and if you write comment like why BTS isn't included ?? Kpoppies be like they are other groups too, not everything revolves around BTS
Solo stan test: If reading a comment praising a member of BTS that isn't your favorite offends you, you are a solo. If you disrespect or insult a member of BTS in the name if your favorite, you are a solo.
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Solos are a disease. I met some people from my uni this year. I was staying in a hostel and they were my roommates. They claimed to be armys and I was so excited to finally share my experiences with irl armys They were maknae line baised, we got to know each other and I learned that they didn't know much about BTS, I assumed they became an army recently but they said that they've been an army for over a year. They only knew the 3 english songs and Idol which is fine okay whatever. What shocked me the most was that they hadn't even heard songs of their own bias' songs, not even one solo song from their bias. They would only ever talk about their fave's Instagram and TikTok edits. Once we were all sitting and explaining to other roommates why we love BTS and this one girl just pulls out her phone and start to ask others to rank the members based on their looks, I felt so uncomfortable. I'm a hobi biased and so she tries to tease me and show them Hobi's picture and they all literally laughed and made fun of his looks. That broke my heart. That was the day I realized just how toxic these solos can be, they're only here for the looks and not the talent. I never talked to her again. Solos are a disease and they spread their germs to other people.
Sadly majority of people from my country are only here for the looks, they don't love the group, they only love their faves and that too only for their looks and not actual talent.
So sorry to hear but guess what hobi is actually charming his visuals are no joke and lately he's been glowing up more and more our sunshine they are just fakes I just hate it so much when people love someone bcz of their looks and majority I have encountered are tae biased and I wonder if they actually listen to him the only thing they have to brag about is his face and nothing else I mean that man has a voice he can dance so well focus on that but no we have to focus on his face not his voice,his talents
@@asilaman funny how the person I mentioned was also a Tae solo, they don't know any BTS songs except butter, dynamite, PTD. They don't even know tae's solo songs, I've seen them spending 90% of their time watching his IG and TikTok edits....
@@rusher0015 and sorry to say again these new so called armies which I don't consider them only are about TikTok like they don't even listen to any music but are like OMG I am BTS army yk they are so handsome blah blah and if u ask them if they know any music they are like oh...yeah I have heard butter and dynamite and if u ask them how long u have known like over a year or 6-8 months I am like bishes I even got the information of their blood group on the second week of staning and u don't even know a song really hurts me and yeah did u ask about any Tae's solo I bet that would have chocked that person with embarrassment it's better to shut these people right away
@@rusher0015 also I wanna ask are u from a south Asian country !?
@@asilaman yup. I guess it's a huge problem here for all of us.
I don't understand them, how can you not love each member of BTS, they are all so wonderful. Too bad for the solos, they are the ones missing out
I was watching kbs for youth bts members fancam just yesterday
And in jk fancam one person said
"The greatest singer of kpop is standing majority of the song" something like that. The comments and replies were shading that bts is wasting his talent.
All members got 2 to 3 lines to sing there are 7 member.
I believe with jungkook adlips and bg vocals, he was the most busiest one. (It's just they didn't saw other member fancam and was expecting jk to sing most of the song)
People also say jk never got a solo mv so he is mistreated. But jk himself said he was not confident enough before. You can clearly saw the difference in 2017 jk and 2020 jk.
As a jk baised I can say he was never mistreated.
But solo wouldn't understand this.
Yes exactly, especially when you hear how all the members talk about jk. RM saying that BTS couldn't exist without jk. The boy does the pre vocals before the rest of the members can hear the songs and can hear their parts done & the fact that he does adlibs and takes over for anyone whose missing during shows/concerts/live performance (for the most part)
I'm not even a JK bias but still I can stand when solo stans do this stuff. Real ARMYS would call stuff out if they felt something was wrong with the group or treatment. If these so called solo stans really cared about their specific person then they wouldn't degrade the other members since the boys care so much about each other.
As a jk biased ARMY, i can confidently say that jungkook solo stans are the fucking worst. Like my gawd, they are terrible.
I remember one time they were saying that jk wrote 100% of the lyrics for 'my time', but when you check the credits, there are multiple people who were involved.
I'm all for praising the members for their writing and producing, but claiming that one person did everything all alone is discrediting everyone who worked so hard on the song, don't you think?
Also, when you try to get some common sense into their thick skulls, they would start talking about how 'ARMYs really hate jk'
We can never win.💀
@@flovonnejohnson707 I think before 2020 the solo fans r very few in numbers, after pandemic and dynamite the numbers just increased. Before there was a balance among the members line distribution. We army r saying for 0t7, the line distribution doesn't matter but when a song release just went through the comment section some of the members get highlighted too much because in the song one member stand out more than others. The fans who r following bts for many years this thing highlighted infront of their eyes. Most of the solos actually used to have a bias before, they were 0t7. But after long period they become solo. We sometimes say bts r happy with everything but if they r happy then why their focus on their solos now?! Every member have some speciality in them but after sometimes they have to abandon their speciality for the team which I think mistreatment to them. I think we should focus on bts rather than attacking solos. Solos exist in every fandom, it's nothing new. Ot7 is a myth, I saw many army 0t7 accounts have their own favourite so I don't believe in this 0t7 theory.
@@faizasamin13 i think you might have misinterpreted my statement. Of course I know that all solos arnt like that. Generalizations never work. But ALOT of solos say some horrible things about the other members. I've seen solo stans demonize other members for just touching their favs. I don't like it when the other members are disregarded but that different from having a bias or even a ultimate bias. I do understand that in earlier vids some were highlighted more (army since 2014, I was soo excited when I started seeing Jin have more lines). But people don't have to punch down to lift their favorite up. And alot of them do that especially jk solo stans forgetting how much jk loves and respects the rest of the members or that we wouldn't even have the jk that we know and love if it wasn't for RM. We all know that they arnt always happy (at least the armys that were there from the beginning know and we constantly ask if they're ok and if they're resting ect) we've all been waiting for them to do their solo stuff, especially the vocalists....... (my comment wasn't even about their actual careers in that sense but more on how the so called fans and solo fans sometimes disregard the rest of the group and their input as a group and team). It can come off as "the rest don't matter" and can sometimes rub me the wrong way. 🤷🏾♀️ that's all my comment was really addressing 🤗💜
@@faizasamin13 But the significant deifference of being 0t7 and being a solo stan, which i believe are antis no matter what. Is that 0t7 fans will never punch down, discredit, or drag another member. 0t7 would still support the boys individual works wether it be simply playing their solos song on spotify and voting. Solos, however, will have favorites and pick and choose the projects that their "fav" participated in, an example can be found when Tae solo stans were planning on boycotting BE but then found out Blue and Gray was produced by taehyung. Same thing with his soindcloud releases, why do tae solos hype up Snow Flower ft. peakboy more than 4 o'clock ft. RM? Why do they like wooga squad more than the 10 years and more love he has for Bangtan? All these questions can be applied to other solos as well. Even if you think there are "peacefull" solos, they will still follow, like and retweet content from big solo antis. Theyve sadly been growing and gaining 1k+ likes without armys even noticing, and some of them directly affect the boys by spreading false information just to shame them (example is jimins tax issue being leaked and messed up by his manager and maknae solos dragging him for it). So no, i dont think there are "good" solo stans, if there were there would be lots of them who call out their own breed for the horrible acts they do.
my thing with solo fans is i just feel bad for them, because even when bts does solo projects especially with the rap line they always always thank army! they only ever acknowledge their army, it’s never “thank you army and my other fans” to them all the ppl that support them are ppl who support the group too, you can’t separate one of them from the group even in solo projects bc they don’t even do that to themselves
TRUE i must say Taehyung has the biggest solo stans in BTS.... them ignoring his feelings,his sentiments of BTS is always 7 and pushing the solo agenda for each and everything...like no Taehyung only knows ARMy Taehyung only loves army BTS only knows armys and no BTS member would ever appreciate the so called "fans" who give themselves names like "kths solos", *jjk *,*pjms* ...like bts won't ever will say fans instead of army's...solos are proving how unwanted they're
@@Arpitae yess, and they always say that we armys ignore Tae and don't support his solo projects. And victimizing Tae is their main job, they victimize him more than supporting him. And Jungkook's solosers are getting outta hand too. They need to stay outta the boys life and the army fandom, like the audacity they have to be in armytwt and talk shit and bully ot7 acc and insult other members.
@@leehans_aquarium U forgot jimin solo stan making sexual edits of Jungkook whenever Jungkook won against Jimin in awards or even Jungkook has awards that they want for Jimin. Also, hyung line solo stans victimizing bts hyung line as well they have same mindset of v akgae.
Blaming Hybe has got to be one of the laziest excuses from a solo, they would rather cry about mistreatment than find out actual facts. I've seen solos trash RM because of his non mention of China in the Korean War, not because of any standing of knowledge of what happened, but because the backlash towards BTS made V look bad, insanity is all it is.
Solos even if they aren't being load they hurt the group, they don't focus on OT7 during combacks, but will put all their efforts into promoting their favorites solo track.
Solo stans also run the risk of hurting their favorite, they typically praise the hell out of any and everything they put out, a small snippet of a demo suddenly becomes the greatest, most beautiful song ever heard. This type of mindless hype will put brakes on any growth or creative development of an artist. BTS members are really down to earth and no matter how big they get will always strive to do better, but can you imagine anybody who's biggest motivation comes from popularity, they would stop trying to get better because there really is no where else to go once you have full adoration.
I thought I was the only one who didn't like solo stans-💀
*Taehyung getting 5 seconds less of screentime*
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Taehyung solo stans: hybe is mIsTreAtInG hIm, he deserves more!!
Your channel is amazing, I hope you get more views
I haaaaaaaaaaate I haaaaate solo stans I tell u like they are the downfall of even the members the claim to stan
If someone is mistreating a member it's often the fans themselves. Saying this or that member has the best voice, the best rap, the worse this the worse that...It's alright to have your personal taste and prefer a voice over another, a style over another... doesn't make it better though. My bias is Jin, it doesn't mean that he's better than any of the other members and I sure as hell cannot stand anyone bringing the other members down. I'm still 0t7 at the end of the day. I can't even imagine BTS without one of the members.
Or when Jimin got less lines in the proof album . His solo stans started saying that hybe mistreating him
I swear that solo stans and hard shippers are the worst
@@betxengi5388 Shippers creep me out, especially the Taekook ones that analyse every little thing. Whether it's true or not, it's fucking weird. Shipping fictional characters with fervor is ok but shipping real people is plain creepy !
What baffles me most about solos is that they completely ignore what their favourite says. I saw a JK solo bashing Namjoon because he got more writing credits. They were extremely rude about it too. Knowing how much JK loves RM I can't imagine how their minds compartmentalise to be able to villainise other members like that. That same thing happens a lot with some shippers (not all), mostly maknae line... I really wonder, do they even know anything about their fave apart from the way they look?
I feel quite sure they themselves don't even know their bias very well. Last night JK hit #1 on BBH100 with Seven, and of course the solos started crying. One of the them started calling Army names and saying that Suga is not JK's cheerleader when he actually said on Suchwita he hoped JK's single would hit #1. ON SUCHWITA, a show he literally made so he could be a cheerleader for the other members. So no, I don't think they even pay that much attention to their own bias and what they say/do.
@@TooLittleInfo let them bark , don't be bother
real...
This video has a lot of great points when it comes to toxic Army! When I was baby Army I was mostly on TH-cam and Weverse. It was months before I started following Twitter, FB, and Instagram Army accounts! That’s when I learned about solos and antis! When ON was are first real chance to get our boys a top 10 on Billboard was when I truly realized what a pain in the butt they could be to Army! When we were trying to get Dynamite to #1 on Billboard’s Hot 100 is what sent it over the top for me! Army was literally working 24/7 asking for donations, radio requests, playlist, and streaming! What were solos doing? Complaining to Hybe about how many lines their solo had in the song! Or how much screen time in the video! One of the big donations accounts said they asked a couple of major solo accounts for help and they refused! Saying it wasn’t their problem! I was shocked! 😮 At first I couldn’t understand how someone could call themselves Army and only support ONE member! Was this the upside down? I finally checked out those accounts and got my answers! WOW, they were SO EXTREME that I thought they were antis pretending to be a army solo! Unfortunately I was wrong. They were crazy, disrespectful, and over the top! How can you listen to BTS’s message of “WE ARE SEVEN!” and call yourself Army? Just like with antis I couldn’t block them fast enough! We can’t weed them all out but we can still try! Again great video!
during MOTS 7 solo stans also weren't streaming/buying ON, they were fighting with each other to put a member's solo song at the top
Thing is solos aren't ARMY
I don't think they can be referred to as ARMY if they don't support BTS and only support individual members. I'm so fed up with I'm going start calling them out telling them they are hurting the very person they are pretending to like.
They all have freedom to do what they want. Solos are complaining some members don't have songs compared to other members.
Do they ever think about how hard it is to make music. Rapline has always been making music from the beginning. They have talents and experience. They make their own mixtapes and albums as well. When making solo music they have to do everything by themselves. And it hard. Have you seen how tired they look when they do it all. Recent example is Jhope. He was in a dark place and lost so much weight as well. He worked so hard and did everything by himself. Others are doing it as we speak. They are always making content. Creativity don't come easily. They need inspiration, experience, talent to express it and so much more. It's f***ng hard to do that. It takes time. BTS members are perfectionists as well so they try even more.
If you remember Jungkook talking about his mixtape back in the day, he must have not been that confident. He talks about how he need time and take long time to do his work.
Just because you want to make a song doesn't mean you can. I'm sure they want to do more all the time. Rappers are talented and works for group music and solo music. And do these solos know how much RM help the vocal line to make their songs? He has credits everywhere even in vocal members solo songs. For example You've seen how RM helped Jimin to write promise. Jimin must have wanted to write it by himself but it's not easy to make a f**ng hit song. Of course solo stans don't see all this. Jimin said in Be-hind interview done by members themselves that he tried hard to write Christmas love but was going to give up until RM wrote lyrics and send it to Jimin in the middle of the night. And Jimin said since RM worked so hard he has to finish it no matter what and how he worked all night to do it and released it in a hurry the next day.
Solo stans forget all these details when they start complaining.
This is just one example.
Jin also said this. How he asked RM for help in the same interview.
They are a team. They have no problem with helping each other. And they are not greedy. They wouldn't be this successful if they were.
After rapline, Jungkook is the one that has developed the most in making music. Out of the vocal line he has always done lot of solo projects. Have a lot of credits as well and that's why i think so. I'm sure other 3 try hard as well. They always have. And have done amazing work. I'm sure they want to do more and they say it as well. They talk about these things often. V recently said how he's not satisfied with his album. But everyone around him encourage him to it. It's his own decision to do as he please. He said in his vlog for us to wait.
Others are working as well. And we'll get to see how much they have improved.
We'll see more from everyone eventually.
It's their own decision. They decide the time and has to be confident and sure about the work before releasing it. They have talked about this if solo stans pay attention they know all this.
Honestly i agree with you. Lots of these solos could be trying to rip the group apart because they are jealous of BTS success. I can see from the comments all over the internet how desperate they sound.
I swear solos would see a photo where Suga is in the center of the image and go “THIS IS MISTREATMENT OF TAEHYUNG!!! HE CAN’T BE IN THE CENTER OF 99.9% OF BTS PHOTOS IT HAS TO BE 100%”
Like how can you not love all of them? All 7 of them are wonderful artists and they are their best selves when they are together. Idk how many times they've said stuff like that themselves.
So I watched this video again after getting into a stupid argument with a solo. I dont understand them. They'll be solo fans and completely disregard their fave's words. BTS are at their best and happiest when they are together. Its beyond obvious and they're all amazing. OT7 man.
@@ToxicNeon I believe it's a projection thing. "I only love so-and-so, he's the only one with real talent and (blah blah blah) so obviously he feels the same way about those people riding his coattails as I do. He's sooooo sweet to put up with their $%@ the way he does."
you always speak real! people who only stan certain members and exclude others (ot6/ot5, etc), deranged, toxic shippers, mantis (manager armys) and company stans are antis too. they all disregard bts' words and speak over them because they think they know what's best for them/what they want when they're really pushing their own ideas/fantasies about bts' thoughts and desires.
you did a great job by highlighting those company stans cus those stans also pisses me off! they always disregard bts abd always sides their company like we are here for bts not that company 😭 And if we call out company or company stans they label us as antis like make it make sense stanning loving bts≠ stanning that company
Thank you. I came here after I saw some solos were holding a twitter protest after one member's bangtan bomb was released and an another's wasn't; it kind of got me all riled up and annoyed. Why do they pretend like the members are children who need to looked after? They are grown men who can speak their mind. If they are unhappy with something they will say so. We see maybe 1% of their lives through V-lives, performances, shows and articles; pretending to know their state of mind and launching protest is so childish. Love your work! It is always well researched - keep at it!
Thank you very much for this very detailed explanation. These solo stans not true ARMY. BTS themselves would not like those who belittle other members who are their best friends and brothers. Do these solo stans don't understand that their bias will not like what they are doing?
What is the most irritating thing ever?
Me:- those 15 year old solo V stans
Not just tae's. It's literally for all the members I literally saw a 20yo man Jimin solo stan on twt yesterday and he was hating on the others so bad 😔 like bruh you're old enough for this sh1t
Literally 😩
FR
Don’t just blame V’s solo stands, there is JK and Jimins too!
@@taetuary true 👍, but V's are out of this world, I've met two who knew almost nothing about his solo works, it was all about his looks, tiktok edits, expressions and Instagram. One of the most creepy conversations i have ever had....It felt like he was not human.
Here’s the thing. I’ve come across some solo stans online who say that they only care about one member, but they don’t disrespect the others (that would be considered being an anti). I’ve even seen some who say that they’re fine with not being army, and don’t want to be. But that still confounds me immensely. How can you not love every single member? How can you not appreciate every single one of these seven wonderful men? I understand having a bias (I’m ot7 myself), but being a solo stan perplexes me when it comes to BTS especially. Like when I first discovered BTS, I wanted to get to know each one. And I did, and I’ve fallen in love with all of their personalities. Solo stans confuse me endlessly.
literally like bro what r u stanning if u dont stan the whole group, like three songs??? 😭😭
??? you dont srs expect everyone to love every single member of a group, right😭 whether it be a controversy, their personality or their solo music
@@lovediedin2009 that’s what being an army means: loving every single member. Or am I wrong?
@@twilightdream most solo stans dont consider themselves armys though (at least from my experiences)
also, no. you dont have to love every single member to consider yourself an army nor any other fandom really. there's no rules to stanning a group
Oh that's really interesting, I never actually knew that that's how they distributed lines, idk how I didn't know. I always see people wishing some people had more lines, but I definitely think there's two types of people, the ones who just want to hear more from everyone because ot7 lol, and then there's the ones you described, which are really harmful.
My ult bias is Jin and you can't exactly control whether you have a bias or not BUT imagine bringing the other members down to make your bias look better, smh. At the end of the day I'm ot7 and I can't stand people that are nasty to any of the members. BTS needs all of the members to be BTS. When you bring one of the members down you bring one of your bias' brothers down. Now that they're doing solo stuff for a bit, army needs to support each of the members otherwise are you really allowed to call yourself army ? You have the right to prefer this or that project BUT you should still appreciate all of the boys' dedication to their art and to army.
Very well said! Also, I agree with your theory at the end of the video. The majority of solos I’ve came across were fans of other groups (and I suspect they wanted BTS to disband so those groups would have a “chance”), and the very few individuals that stanned only one BTS member and didn’t stan other groups were actually sasaengs of said members (just think of he4dliner jk for example)! Can’t help but notice that either of them actually ruthlessly disrespect the members they so firmly say they “love”.
I’m enjoying the variety of activities each member is getting to do because they took a hiatus from group schedules and as Rm said they needed to venture out of their comfort zones to recharge their creative energy i love them together and i love them individually
they always say to just trust them and i'll always do that!!
Solostans will actually call their fav member lying if he doesn’t say what they expect .
If thats not called antis, i dont knw what.
Also most of army multi who don’t hesitate to through BTS under the bus. They only here to use BTS name.
The ARMY in army multi is always silent.
i adore your content. you're objective, down to earth and there is absolutely zero pretension or arrogance in your tone. we need more people like you in this fandom.
Maknae line solo stans are the absolute worst breed. They really can't tolerate anyone other than their bias getting praised. Jin is my favorite, I am genuinely a huge fan of his songs and his vocals because he resembles some of the classical singers I grew up listening to, and I always leave a positive comment about him wherever I can. But I've never been able to do so without the maknae line stans spamming their hate & toxicity. I've seen this happen every time someone praises the hyung line. I don't understand how someone can be so vile and gross when their supposed idols are such nice & sweet human beings.
YOU ARE HATING AS WELL WHORE! INVALIDATING JK. LOWKEY SHADING HIM.
This is so much needed in their ch 2 Thank you for making this, recently solos of one member were boycotting his work just because the promotion of their fav was not according to their wish . He came and talked about it on live too it's so sad the members already said the promotions are all according to their will yet these people move like antis
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I'm multi stan & an armyblink. But recently blackpink trying to steal others idol achievements without hesitation. Even their recently released song "The girls " was full about hate toward BTS & others kpop idols. And I felt ashamed of being a blink. So I left this toxic fandom forever. And will stay just army forever. I want to say something to blinkarmy as a ex - blink, :-
How can you still love liars who don’t achieved anything but steal others credits & never communicate with their fan. I just share my own opinion. So no hates to others blinks (who still ridiculously support their hilarious ig models). I'm sry but not feeling bad. (Obviously not, after leaving bp, I felt quite easy).
The way this channel needs more reach and subs !!! Loving the content that you are putting out. Thankyou for these detailed videos
I myself were very afraid of solo stans that I couldn't claim my bias (jungkoook) fearing that I would fall to be one of them but thankfully I've come to learn that it's okay to have bias (basically someone to relate to the most like a twin) and at the same time I've grown to love the other members equally that I love them in all what they do whether solo work or group work as they always represent home to me
The less number of views tells how solo stans are afraid to know their truth 😗 and i wanna tell that if any member do a solo project they thanks army not say army and my fans.... so plzz solo stans if u wanna support one member you do but at least do not leave delusional comments like ooo my my bias is getting mistreated like seriously it's just sound worse when they are clearly not 😑
You mentioned OT7 but you forgot the fake type of OT7 which is the OT6 fans who somehow like all the members except for one and you can tell just by the way they mention everyone except for that one member . Also OT2 fans who are mostly shippers . And OT3 (only like the maknae line) . And OT4 (only like the hyung line)
The way you comment like this make me think you are a solo Stan. Because it's their narrative to say that most of Army are OT6 because they haven't never satisfied with what the guys decided for themselves. I know there are namy Army who are here for 2 or 4 or 3 members and those fake army are the most annoying fans because they can't support all the boys. For example Hyung line receive less support that manae line for their Solo songs. Support all the members
@@KouassiSonia
How is that making me look like a solo stan? That's the truth about our fandom tho
@@KouassiSonia i agree with you !! most solo stans complain about armys being fake ot7. because they badly want to believe that their fav member is being mistreated by armys
@@KouassiSonia there are a lot of them exposed tho, big ot7 acc that turned out to be an anti of a certain member. theirs stans will notice it but wont make a lot of noise since people just accuse them of being solos, then eventually those big accs eventually exposed themselves and threads exposing them blows up with evidences provided by those accused by being solos
@@KouassiSonia just because someone said reality ,you are going to make them solo fans , akgaes and solos are different , same as fake OT7 and OT7 are different! There is literally expose of big accounts shading one member but still call themselves ARMY .
I mean it's ok if you Stan some or one , it's your opinion ,but you don't need to hate others and it applies for both solos and ARMYs
💜 Thank you for this! 💜
Very well thought out essay. I would love to hear your thoughts on why there are so many company haters out there.
I love your channel, i just discovered your channel and i really really like the content. and exited for upcoming Videos :) 💜
thank you so much, it really means a lot to me💜 i just uploaded a new video!
@@boracitymagazine gonna check them out 🥰
Me too 💜
Your content is so educatuional and truthful, I hope you will do a video on toxic shippers/shipping and why Western music fans need to educate themselves on Korean culture (skinship) to understand how Korean people interact before getting into Kpop
This video deserves many many views this is the reality solos are miserable and friendless people who wants to protray their miserable life on bts like grow up they're 7 and they'll be seven 🤍 solos are just antis of other members and sets their supposed fav every damn time up. solos deserves hell
MY GIRL SPILLS EVERY FUKING TIME!!!!!
my bias keeps on changing ..i literally love all of them . i personally like jimin's voice alot but ot7 bts is what i love the most , they're the best when they're together ...
I like your theory about solo stan is probably stan of other group, who pretty much like if BTS fail
Finally, I found a channel that shares the same thoughts as mine! Going to dive into your other videos.
*Finally i found someone who thinks like me!!! I totally agree with everything you said! 💯*
Like their's a difference between having a bias & being a solo stan..idk why some choose to be solo stan or associate themselves with that t0x!c term, when you can be Army and hv bias & support, love your fav lil more than others.. nothing could change the fact for me that "choosing" to be a solo stan rather than having a bias in BTS, and being an Army, is infact the example of having "t0x!c mindset" itself! Like how can someone not love all 7 members?! I don't get that kind of thinking..like doesn't solo stans even hv enough love to spread? Are they so short of love in their life? What's there not to love about any member? It's a sign of twisted mindset.. it's a messed up mindset for me..if someone says they choose to be solo stan and say "i respect others members & i don't bring them down" it's a big lie, a lie they are telling others and a lie they are telling themselves in order to justify their mindset ngl..like no one can convince me that a solo stan of perticular member doesn't victimize their idol all the time, that they don't make it a competition between members, that they don't feel jeal0us when other members do well or get praised, rather than their idol..even if they try to convince themselves that they are not t0xic, in reality they are hypocrites who try to paint their idol as superior to other members, constantly comparing their achievements with other, what not competition between members, solo stans are ppl who doesn't hv respect or love for other members or even their idol tbh, they just want to victimize their idols so that they can act as some freaking "saviours of their idol"😃 as if that grown a$$ man who can make his own decisions , speak for himself, stand up for himself, needs these so called kids called "solo stans" to save him from non existent drama🗿he doesn't need ppl with low self esteem who choose to be a solo to act as a saviour of some kind lmao..solo stans fail to see that their idol is where he is cuz of hardwork of all 7 members together, blood, sweat & tears of all 7, that their idol would choose his members over these so called solo stans anytime, that their idol genuinely loves his members and fans(Armys), who love them all and who are able to see that if there wasn't even 1 member in BTS, they wouldn't be what they are now as artists and as individuals! Who see hardwork of all 7 members, who acknowledge, respect & love them all individually and as a group, it's Army not solo stans, Armys are the one who acknowledge this fact, not solos who try to hide behind the mask of "oh respect all the members, I'm kind" sh*t! No one can convince me that a solo stan is a person with sane mind, for me they are and will always be twisted minded ppl with low self esteem and low on love in life! Like choosing to be a solo stan when you can be an Army with having a bias? Tbh i think solo stans are the most brainwashed ppl, they think that their idol is mistreated (again victimizing) & this i belive is done by some big account old solo stans, who try to brainwash these new Armys to think that way, that their bias doesn't get love from Armys, so the solution is to be a ✨solo stan✨ stupid..and the baby Armys who are brainwashed are stupidest (if that is even a word)
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I'm not sure if I agree with the end theory mainly bc from what I've seen solos are completely obsessed with their favorite member and only them. I think it might have to do with jealousy more than anything: jealousy they have to share the member with armys who also love the other 6 members, jealousy that they won't get solo tours (most likely), that the boys love and put the members first. Also the savior's complex: the member has to be miserable in order for the so called fan to be of some sort of relevancy to the member they "love". They need to feel importance, to feel like they're smarter than Armys and like they're the heroes and we're the enemies. It bothers me a bit that so much of the bad behaviors get thrown towards multistans when so many of us dedicate ourselves to BTS with all we have, they're number one for many of us (myself included), but we also love other groups. In fact, in my country at least, I've mainly observe this savior behavior from Only Armys! I always comment that I think the fact that they seem to not know any other companies as well as maybe someone who is a multi does probably contributes in creating these ideas. I'm a Neverland and I've seen just how horrible a company can be by witnessing the mistreatment (G)I-dle goes through. I know how an idol behaves when they don't like their company bc I see (G)I-dle "jokingly" talk crap about Cube any chance they get, specially since they kicked out one of their members. And Idle is one of those groups that have a lot of creative freedom, so I can't imagine how it is for groups in companies that control everything.
I know it was probably not your intention to throw shade at all multis and that a lot of ppl would say "if it doesn't apply to you don't feel offended", but it's just that Armys who are multi get so much sh*t and so many ppl even say we're not real Armys, which can be really discouraging when it comes to fandom interaction. I really wish ppl would analyse individuals instead of lumping us all with antis (again, not saying that's what you did, just a comment).
This video is incredible and I really wish more ppl would see it, specially mantis as they seem to constantly fall for whatever bs solos spread. Even if we just analyse it from a capitalist pov Hybe and BigHit would be incredibly stupid to mistreat their biggest source of income, specially considering that so many labels would kill to have them!
We share the same ending theory. People who Stan the less globally-popular groups are the ones who only root for literally one bts member and try to stir up strange rumors and drama.
I hate solo stans. I mean if you wanna get called army don't dare to be a solo stan. And having bias is okay until and unless you don't bring others down. The more solo stans we have, the more toxic we get
I, like others below, also love what you are doing. I have never really thought about, or come across, the kind of solo stan you describe. Most people I know will say they are OT7 but within that, their bias is ..., which is, I think different. Without analysing the matter in the way you have done, if I had ever met someone who said they only like (one member), I would never have counted them as ARMY. But, actually, I wonder if they would ever frame their thinking in that way, or would they say they like BTS but have one favourite.
I certainly find that some complaints about "mistreatment" or line distribution have been rather immature, and have, when I see them, challenged them albeit gently. Many ARMYs ARE still young and sometimes over sensitive, as we all can be at times. I've found that they seem to accept what I say (usually that BTS makes the decisions themselves, and I trust their wisdom) in good part.
Big love to u for this.....💜🤗 the solos always think thier fav r mistreated but they really forget that the 7 of them r grown up man they take thier own decisions....💜
I absolutely agree with your thumbnail 💯
They’re hypocritical. They bully ARMYS for “not loving” one of the members when they’re the ones who actively hate all members except their chosen victim 🙄
Not to mention y’all need to wake up and realise that most of the “jungkook baidu bars” or “yoongi baidu bars” are solos and they have massive competitions with eachother to afford the most expensive gift for that member. Not bc they actually care.
I like kpop since 2012, and i never subscribe any channel of kpop except the official one. And here i am. New sub👋
damn bro
I always thought this line distribution issue was really stupid and I'm happy to see so many people agree lol. Not everything has to be exactly equal all the time, and sometimes there is a lot of stuff that happens behind the scenes that you don't see so you can't even say that one person was not allowed an opportunity to contribute this and that. All they care about it what's on the surface when there's so much more happening under the surface that they don't see. And I think it's an insult to the guys that these solos think they know better than the members themselves about what's good for them.
That's why I like to listen to you thanks
I AM SO THANKFUL TO YOU. I became an ARMY in Oct 2020, and when i joined twitter, i was so fed up and annoyed because since then if anything new was released you will surely see a hashtag with a member's name being mistreated by bighit and if we try to correct them, they will even question your loyalty as an OT7. I am going to share this link and let them know that they are actually solo stans in disguise of so called OT7
@@evamelody5610 Mine is NamasteShivani, i have followed you
No one was sabotaged or mistreated
i just found your channel through your recent video abt longevity being in my recommended and am excited to dive into your other videos! i love your channel name :) I hope this video gets a lot more attention, it’s something that’s been talked about for a while now on like twt obviously but it’s important to keep disputing this stuff to keep them away from our spaces and stop letting ppl fall into their narratives. Esp in this next period where I’m ngl I hope solos don’t get even more unbearable and new fans who come in from solo work don’t fall for their bs, treat them like the antis they are 😪 they’re all miserable people in every aspect and rlly are all fans of other groups. I think that since THEIR fav groups don’t have as much freedom like bts or aren’t as sincere or close family as them, the fact bts isn’t like these other groups blows their minds so they become in denial and create all those crazy ass theories and nitpick everything. They pick the member they hate the “least” and run w it. they hate bts more than they supposedly love their fav, their accounts are just a platform to spread bts hate. Also wanna add that I agree there are Nooo good solos. Even if they don’t disrespect the other members, it validates/amplifies all other solo antis and gives them a space to exist. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a solo not be weird towards the other members anyway. It’s also why diet solos are a problem
i totally agree with everything you said. even though i made this video before the announcement of their solo projects, my point still stands. their fans will still be called armys and solos will continue being antis. thank you so much for your comment about the channel!! i'm preparing lots of new content😊
I agree with almost everything you've said and yes, solo/akgae fans are very toxic and a disease for any fandom, but I definitely don't agree with dragging other groups into this and looking down on them when there is no need for that, especially since plenty of other groups do have creative freedom and make their own music, as well as tight knit family like bonds and friendships.
@@Kalakeikowhat it has to do with the topic and many solo fb admin has been exposed to be in gc with Kpoppies and even making a project to token stan a random member to create rift within fandom, it was part of their gc of 10 k people, no we are not making things up
@@blossom6693 I never said that anyone made things up? My response was based on a part of this comment and the way they dragged other groups into this topic for no reason, that is all because there was no need for that.
@@Kalakeiko she didn't bring group, it's abt the fan
Solo's are a disease in the fandom, ppl say that hyung line stan's are much more loyal than maknae line stan, but in my opinion all of the 7 stan's can be bad bc I have also seen some toxic hyung line stan's before. I do get kinda scared of one of my friends bc she is Namjoon biased, I did one time said "what will be your reaction if Namjoon had a girl/boyfriend" and she said she will get made at him, she only really gets merch from Namjoon she barely gets any merch from the other members(which I really hate it when ppl only by merch from 1 member), she did voted that she only likes 1 member in one of my tik toks which scared me, and she also barely pays attention to BTS and only really pays attention to Namjoon. She does have a disability but still
It's been 9 months to this video. And to this day, solo stans complaints are rising day by day. 🤷 No matter how hard you try to ignore it, it still bothers somehow.
True, and they literally harrassed btschartdata for no fucking reason. Idk what to do they're getting on my nerve.
@@leehans_aquarium Yea it's so sad. I heard that. He's closing his account because of these toxic people. 🥺 He's been doing an amazing job. I wish he ignores them and continue doing what he's best at. 🙏
Some solo stands in my opinion, don't even like or respect the artist they stand . What they like is the image they created in their mind of that artist (fantasy)and not the real person. Because if they did, (in the case of BTS) they would respect all the other members of the band. We all know how close the members of BTS are, how much they care for each other, how much they support and respect each other, and we all know their message of love, peace... While the message of these solo stands is completely opposite to the message conveyed by BTS and some of them are really nasty in their comments about the other members...
Damn this was some information
I appreciate this as baby army 💜
Algo que siempre me molesta y que lo veo como una especie de comportamiento muy normal en el mundo del kpop en general (aclaro que soy only army pero esto ya lo ví) es como los fans tratan a los idols cómo nenes chiquitos que no pueden tomar sus propias decisiones solos y que la empresa es la culpable de todos los pensamientos o las acciones que cometen los idols. Y eso es tan preocupante considerando que estamos hablando de personas adultas pasados de los 20 que ya seguramente saben cómo funciona el mundo de la fama y el entrenamiento y aún así su público elige tratarlos como almas vírgenes y sagradas que deben ser protegidas a todo costa. Es muy creepy
Por cierto me encanta tu canal y tu contenido sos la mejor!
Yes they are solo, ot3 ot6 ot2 etc
But there are some who says they are army but if u ask them do u know their name? Yes. Do u know their real name?? Hmm yeah but only 2 3 members. What is ur fvrt song? Butter(bcz they knew only butter no other song) Have u watched run bts?? What it means
So I can give many example like this. They say they are army but they doesnt even listen their song, doesnt know about anything like nothing.
They will see bts on youtube shorts thats it. They are just behind visual and fame of BTS. Such people are not Army.
And unfortunately they are my cousins.
Nice analysis and presentation, thank you.
I wouldn’t call a solo stan a fan because if they were they would love all 7 of the boys as they are all incredibly talented and just genuine and lovely guys. It’s fine to have a bias but solo stans have ulterior motives for sure.
I thank u for addressing this issue 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I love your content
thank you!!
During the chapter 2 the solos are very vocal. They keep appearing even if i block them on SNS. They are even harassing the ot7 accounts
I've actually have one video where I asked army's if they are truly army's and if they are OT7 of if they only like one member, and 94% of them pick OT7, but there was a 6% that scared me bc 2 of them already admitted that their not BTS army 5 of them admitted that they are army's and 1 of them was one of my friends
Kontennya bagus 👍 Tidak apa-apa punya solo stan, sebab setiap ARMY punya bias masing-masing. Tapi kalau solo stan mulai menilai/berpikir negatif terhadap member lain/perusahaan, mereka sebenarnya termasuk haters berkedok ARMY. Mereka ini berbahaya, sebab berniat menghasut/adu domba.
Hati-hati My 💪
BTS adalah 7, ARMY 💜 BTS
The two categories of people that I can't call fans/ARMYs are solos and shippers...
Jungkook is my bias but I always say that the others are just as talented, awesome, beautiful, etc. I really love all the work they do, the people they are, I'm proud of them all. And I do not tolerate any disrespect towards anyone. Being a very sensitive person, I react very quickly and I often get defensive when people talk about BTS! Even with videos that are intended to be harmless and funny, I am wary, I very often end up regretting having started watching the video... Especially when Jk is the subject (because he is their favorite target) of mockery at through the video and/or in the comments.
I mentioned the shippers because they are really toxic and completely delusional. I'm sure a tiny part of them are harmless but I can't stand the content at all anymore, especially when it concerns Jungkook. I fell into their trap at the beginning of my BTS journey and then quickly realized that there was a lot of weird stuff in their videos, especially when you watch the original content in full.
There are exceptions like the videos of Jungkook and a member of the hyung line because often they are cute and/or funny videos but nothing cringe. Since most people don't ship them, they just want to show off their interactions and the kind of brotherhood they have. But as soon as the title includes the word "jealousy", it makes me cringe and I skip the video.
Anyway, that's not what I meant initially but I always overshare, sorry. I wanted to give an example with Jk's G.C.F in Tokyo (feat. Jimin as main character). I came to admire the work of my bias and then I wanted to know the opinions of others... I didn't read all the comments but I was shocked and disappointed because instead of talking about the video and Jungkook's work, people kept saying the same thing over and over again. They were all talking about Jimin and saying crappy things about their ship.
"mistreatment for everything" 💯
I know so many people who say they are "ARMY" and they have heard 3 songs or something and if I heard about calling the members as husband I'm tailing out of there.
They only care about that tagging ARMY will make them look cool or whatever.
And completely disregard Hyung line. I know many younger fans have Maknae line as their bias, there is nothing wrong with that. The problem happens when they cross their boundaries, disliking other members just because of line distribution or screen time, blah blah.
Honey, you need to understand it's 7 or nothing.
If you are claiming to be an ARMY, you have to respect and love each member and the group as a whole, it's 7 or nothing.
Also, I want to say that if someone claim their ARMY and don't know anything about their music or only care about their achievements and awards, it's a big red flag.
I understand if you're new to the BTS hole please, do discover their old releases, there are hidden gems in them.
I still know so many "ARMY'S" who don't even know dark and wild exists or face yourself album exists.
As an ARMY we support each member solos, mixtapes, playlists and their group projects wholeheartedly and as ardently as we can.
So well said, this is what solo stand should know and learn and stop spreading rumour about mistretaments. The most important thing is, if there’s a mistreatment, would they just leave it like that? They are adults and talented so they can speak for themselves (it’s their most important value: ‘speak yourself’)…
Thank you so much, your content alway brilliant, on point and useful…
Even more toxic crazy solo stans now. I wonder how old they are. They are so delusional it’s hard to understand where they come up with wild accusations.
i firmly believe they are tiktok kids stumbling upon bts and latching onto one member because of his image and thats it. they will grow out of it, i hope
As always You 've told the truth 🎉🎉 BTS is not only one they're seven 💜🎉
You forgot to mention the most important thing which is them hating on the other members and making accounts on twt with thousands of followers just bashing the other members
It really sounds good to love them equally but actually it's not really possible and it's ok to do so until and unless you disrespecting and putting a blind eye on other members. It's ok to love one but it's necessary to support all that they deserve 🤗🤗
Huh?! What do you mean it's not possible to love all? I'm here trying to understand how it's possible to NOT love all 7? Weird
There is a difference between loving all members but having one(s) you love more (that's why the terms bias and ultimate bias exist) vs people who only care about a single member and disregard the entire group just so they can get more "content" out of their fav member
THANK YOU FOR THIS! 💜
This was really nice!
Today on tweeter i saw Jungkook solo stands calling jimin flop and fraudulent they are more toxic than haters
You are 100% correct. They are all anti BTS
SAY IT LOUDER!!!!! 💜💜💜💜
I understand that about line distribution but I still wish it was little bit more fair. Specially for Jin. Some song’s line distribution is really messy.like literally one or two lines for him. At least they could give him more screen time. Because it matters a lot.people often sleep on him due to lack of lines and screen time. They must have equal lines considering all the songs but when it comes to their main songs until recent tomes Jin has less lines. Not only him also v and the rap line too.
Are you deaf or blind,the boys have explained it . They give lines on how someone pulls out the song
Omg 🤦♀️ .. it's like you did not watch the video *at all* jeez
Did you LISTEN👂??
I don't think hybe is mistreating any of the members, hybe is promoting each members very well
I hate solos is a passion.
Just found this video. I’ve been ARMY for several years now. I understand the position of leader. I have always thought Jungkook is main vocal because he does ad libs, support other singers during chorus, guide and has steady vocal range.
You know I love Jimin and I mostly support him but I do care about all of them and I can't take it and despise when they talk horribly about the other members. How can you say you love one member and hate the people that he loves?......Jimin adores Namjun, Jin, Yoongi, Taehyung, Hobi and Jeongguk and how can you think they won't be in each others lives?.....that's foolish to think that.
wow i am really impressed by your video. i have never seen these clips before and i have noticed when solo stans do this. now it´s JK solo stans on the billboard. i mean since he is part of bts i love him to but choosing to support that song except for a bts song like bad decisions. it´s like they dont want anything to do with other members but charlie puth is okay to share a song with?? i dont get it. it it was a song between jk and jimin v solo stans would try and raise one of V´s solo songs. are they afraid their bias would be forgotten or what? ore are they jealous of them.
only thing solo stans say is that their fav one is being mistreated lol+ the shippers are hella annoying too they like to overanalyze the stuffs
I love you like you speak my mind out 😭😭
Why don't there be translation here. Oh, I'm sad 🥲
Anyone knows what song RM was talking about at 6:25? :)
I have a question here. If I stream play songs on Apple Music, will this be counted?
Yes 💜
There's myth that akgae and solo stans are different like yes akgaes are vile they always bash tannies but solo stans are no better. Cus they chose to stan one particular mmbr from a group of 7 like as we all know bts love n adore eo and solos claim to stan theirfav and respect others meanwhile they are associated with those vile akgaes who bashes or drags mmbrs every time so in conclusion those solos see those hate and hype those akgaes rather than stopping them so solos are no better and are bound to hate others so according to me solos= akgaes= antis (CASE CLOSED CUS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO STAN ONE AND HATE OTHERS LIKE BE SERIOUSL GET HELP FIND FRIENDS FOR YOUR FRIENDLESS LIFE STOP PORTRAYING YOUR MISERY AND LONELY LIFE ON THOSE 7 GROWN ADULTS)
I think so too that other fandom are trying to sabotage pretending to be army. Just think will you talk shit about your own idol.
Nicely done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ot6 aka fake ot7 are antis also,lol.
They're the worst imo
I just think Jimin just deleted IG for good🤣