It's obvious that Cleo is very depressed both on the show & her current statements Her letter appears to be a suicide note. I hope she receives therapy she needs. Just because her surgery might be at no cost, her recovery time without a salary & therapy costs can be expensive. Depression & suicidal ideation needs to be taken seriously & it's important that her friends, family & others are there to emotionally support her & find her the care that she needs. Cleo is a beautiful, caring person & deserves the very best. I hope she finds someone who truly loves her & is not with her for the publicity.
I suppose this ** could be some kind of cry for help but anyone committing subside for real would never advertise it in this manner. It is the opposite of how it goes irl.
I am very worried about Cleo. Really like her. Finding a new home for your beloved pets is a very serious thing, and that’s why i am worried. Cleo would never give them away unless she thought she was going to pass away.
@@ginayoung130 i have two cats also. No matter what, i’d never give them up unless i knew i was going yo die very soon. That’s why i am so worried about her. She loved those cats to pieces. So worried. I can’t imagine what has happened.
Please, Cleo, get well soon. I've been there, but I promise, I promise if you love you, you will rise up out of this. It takes time, it's not overnight, but please don't give up.
That is so sad. No one should ever laugh at someone or underestimate someone in that emotional place. She started the show with so much anxiety . If my friend was in that place I'd try to trap them into spending time so I could get them help. Bottom line be there don't ditch them or let them sit alone.
@@DailySoapDishI personally don't feel that Cleo has a type or should explore it until their mental health is straightened away. Many times relations are harmful for those needing psychiatric help.
Cleo needed something more than Christian could give. No one person can be a savoir for a person, and Cleo needs to sort her mental health out before she finds love again. Maybe love yourself more. 😢
I don't think she should have the go fund me page asking people to pay for her transition She knew she wanted a sex change years before, she should have worked hard and save all her money to pay for her own surgery. It shouldn't be left to strangers to cover the cost
The letter Cleo wrote sounds like a letter you write when you want to check out from this world and never come back. Hope she gets the help that she needs and feels better.
More for attention....... Is that why the guy who jumped off the san francisco bridge lived????? Because emding ur life is easier then one might think... Disgusting
As someone who did experience brief depression when my child was young, not sure if it related to pregnancy or not. Anyways, what I learned is only you can lift yourself up. Family and friends can give you short attention but they have to worry for their own life. She said about people should accept people for who they are, this is impossible, you cannot expect people to accept everything about you. Best is turn off your social media application and work on being mentally strong.
Excellent advice. It must come from within. Sometimes you need to make new friends or a relocation and a fresh start. I pray more humans can let their kindness shine thru.
I think people who are seriously in danger of doing a thing to end it all, go do it the moment they reach that limit...they are determined to do it so they dont let anybody on to what they are about to do.... I think the people who write letters, texts or calls are the ones crying out for help because they are not quite ready to do the thing. I'm not a statistician so I dont know the numbers but this seems to be what I have seen over time. One family member drove to a secluded spot on the river and wasn't found for 2 days.....several people Ive known throughout my life have written letters like this but fortunately found the help they needed. One kid took a bunch of pills and told his brother what he just did, yet there were 2 bottles of opiates and sedatives in the same cabinet that he knew would have been effective....so yeah, I thin k Cleo is in a very dark place so I hope she can find exactly what she needs to bring her to a better place :)
Cleo you are a lovely person in and out. You can get through this depression step by step please believe that. My daughter went through it and it was so sad but you can get passed this. Don't force anything and call or be with loved ones. You deserve a good man not one that won't bring out the best in you.
Oh Cleo, I hope you read this & don’t change your body because your hormones will get out of balance & as you get older it hurts your bones & you can’t take estrogen forever because of side effects. Think of your tomorrows. You are ok just as you are. I see a very introspective person in you Cleo. 👍
Cleo seemed like a very depressed person from seeing her on the show. It seems sometimes people think a surgery will fix their lives when it won’t & the problem is from within & needs to be addressed & worked on.
You’re right, people might do anything. I worked for the suicide crisis Center and you can NEVER take anyone Lightly. The criticism can put her over the edge. Even if she is looking for attention, she CLEARLY needs help and it’s a no win for public debate. SHE NEEDS HELP!
This is what makes this situation so tricky... once you become a "public" figure, discussion about and criticism of you is to be expected. Ideally you want TLC and its producers to vet out the people that aren't able to handle what comes with the territory of being on the show, but lately I'm not sure they even care... It's a bit of a tragedy, and IMO Cleo shouldn't have been on the show. But not all of the attention is bad either. For ex, Cleo would have never been able to raise the $10k or whatever she raised had she not appeared on the show.
I'm so sorry to hear that Celo is going through this. Anyone with depression and especially anyone thinking of hurting themselves MUST seek help. There is help out there, people. Stay with us. The world needs you. A huge hug to anyone hurting. I have been there....
Cleo needs to get mental health help asap. The surgery stuff should be on the back burner. No surgery will give her the mental stability that she needs to be happy long-term. She's putting the cart before the horse, so to speak. Good healthy mental health is everything!!
If a couple was in a relationship and one threatened to end themselves to get attention from the other, it would be abuse. Why isn't the same when people do it in family or friendly relationships?
It's the same. Anyone who actually is that low and considering ending their life doesn't bloody post their goodbye letter on social media. This is so rank I actually can't. And I have lost people to suicide. This is the absolute worst kind of egocentricity
false flagging does not deserve support respect or admiration in any way shape or form this is an intention grab and disrespecting people that are honestly going through these things daily this person did this for clout financial gain and we all fell for it like sheep we are we fell for it uplifting her with comments when she most likely didn’t even feel this way she wasn’t even willing to end it it was just a false flag and we all fell for it sympathy up her Ying yang and support her go fund me supported her mentally emotionally financially it’s a game they’ve manipulated us and coerced us to feel bad come on when is it time for us to wake up if you were really mentally ill and you’ve had suicidal ideation you know you can spot it out whether it’s for attention or a real attempt we know playing games for financial gain in the worst way you can is what this person did so if anything this person should be subjected to nothing but what she put out false flagging and false claiming you are in a certain way for financial gain karma
Cleo, You are a very lovely person. Never sell yourself short with someone that is not there 100% for you. You deserve someone who is 100% committed, without hesitation. Just know that you are truly enough alone if that person never shows up. You are beautiful just as you are. Don't sell yourself short for anyone. You deserve the very best. So nice to have met you on 90 day fiancé. Wishing you the best. Joycie ❤
Oh my god I’m praying that she’s gonna be okay. When I watched the last season my first thought was “Yeah I’d def be friends with her. We have the same vibe.” This is so upsetting to see and I’ve never even met this girl. I hope to god she’s gonna be okay.
Cleo stay strong please! Love your gentle soul. You are young. Life is long and many things are in store for you. Hang in because you have so much potential. And a breakup is not the end of the world! You will persevere, you are strong.
I felt sorry for cleo all through this show she wasn’t mentally stable for all the things then cameras around eather plus she has autism that’s not very nice how’ve she was made out to be baisically trying to get Christian to love her but he was just rotten and loved all woman too much and was constant flirting .its same with Nikki and Justin Justin ie igor is just using Nikki for money and that’s it
When someone requests gender reassignment, I believe they undergo lots of testing, including psychological. Given what we've seen on the show, it seems clear that she's not stable. I wonder how that works? Plus, a public FB will not help her cause. My heart goes out to her, but ditching Christian is Step Number ONE.!!!
I really liked Cleo I so hope she is OK and gets all the strength love and support she deserves and co tines on her journey ! Keep Strong Cleo u can do it!!!
Its depressing to see how many people believe that she is so desperate for attention that she would think these things, write them out and then post it publicly and then wait around to read the comments and reactions. Kinda twisted. Anyone having these thoughts and expressing them is in need of some empathy and the support needed to get better. Analyzing the reasons behind the dysfunction is just a covert way to trash her character. So, just keep on picking her apart and not believing that she is hurting. I choose to believe most people who speak about the pain they are experiencing mentally and emotionally. I hope shes able to get to a good place in life and continue to be a momma to her fur kids. ❤
The sad reality is that people would do that in 2024 as "clout" is the choice currency of the time. Just think to yourself, why do most people even go on 90DF if it isn't for clout? It's been years and the show has degenerated into a clout chaser's paradise. I gave an example of a recent case in Reality TV of someone who faked his death for precisely this reason; clout. So it's definitely possible and reality TV "stars" aren't exactly known to be model citizens. Now I'm not saying that Cleo did that, but it's definitely been done before and is likely a reason people are skeptical about what they read on social media more than ever. I'm with you in hoping she can turn the page in this dark chapter.
@DailySoapDish I do agree that there are people who would absolutely do and say anything for money and fame and clout... and, I have never watched her on the show, so I could definitely be missing context in the situation. That being said, knowing that she is transgender, seemingly has acted out and behaved dysfunctionally with some consistency in the past, is different in my opinion than the usual clout chasing antics online and on reality TV. Also, when she mentioned her pets, apologizing to them for not staying with them... I have said that exact same thing in my head, my journals, and to my pets. That's not for show or attention. There's no clout, no gain in that. She seems to be in a lot of pain. And people do strange things when they hurt. I spent a lot of time in my life crying for attention, making dramatic statements and generally just being off putting because of my psychological problems... none of it was fun for me or anyone in my life. I just think the actual clout chasing goons are more rare than people who have genuine problems that have a chance of being improved upon. Hope this all makes sense, I ramble when I care 🙂
Hoping for the best for Cleo. Josh was hilarious those emails gave me a good chuckle since he would pretend like it was someone else emailing for an "exclusive about Josh Seither" although I could see from the email name that it was him. 😂😂He is by far the king of the clout chasers LOL. Those emails stopped after his fake death hoax tho... 😅
Is there a way to reach out to her or someone close to her? I’m not religious but my thoughts go out to her. Please Cleo don’t do anything destructive.
I'm not sure about the family members, but if you want you can send her a feel good message I'm sure she'll appreciate that. instagram.com/stereotypical_cleo/
Cleo has serious mental health issues & should not be on 90 DF, for her own good. I always felt like Christian was playing with her, & being on TV just encouraged him to continue. I hope I'm wrong about that. I don't think Cleo is posting these things to try to get money. I think it's just her personality to think about & talk about her issues, maybe to her detriment. I would love to see her healthy & happy. But not on a TV show that takes advantage of people's pain.
I'm sure she is very overwhelmed. She seems very sensitive, and I hope she gets lots of people surrounding her in her life to help her through everything. Christian was not a great match for her. He is far too insensitive to her needs. ❣
Hope she will find peace. Autistic,trans a relation or not quit stressful. She's genuine, that can't be said about most couples in last and this year series !
I think Cleo is a good person but her mental "disorders" (for lack of a better word) were always at the forefront of her identity. Anxiety, depression, being around crowds, etc. Maybe it's how the show edited that gives me this observation but I never saw her identity outside of her mental issues. This sounds like an outreach for help, more than anything, to the specific people she listed. I say its an outreach and not a suicide note because she posted it online. It shows she would also be waiting for "likes" and comments and dm's...
Dan, damn that Josh story is wild!. I hadn't heard about that...(I couldn't even remember who he was until you elaborated on him..then I remembered...barely!)
It is. Very disturbing but if you knew Josh's MO even a little bit, not surprising... he tried to date literally every female in the 90DF universe and somehow Karine fell hook and sinker for the scam. When that didn't provide the expected "clout" he even said he was gay. 😂He also often posted about his mental health issues which I forgot to bring up here.
This is a sick thing to write and post. He needs a padded cell. Sadly, people that unalive themselves don’t try to get sympathy from the world. I call this a sensational attempt for attention as his story is over. He wants money and fame and maybe a new storyline on 90 day. Sharp Entertainment! Don’t reward this but with more air time. Say you are offing yourself and get rewarded? What message is that sending? Stop saying she. I’m a she. A real she. He didn’t think it through.
I hope she will get proper medical attention. A lot of times, the hormones don't balance properly n cause depression in transgender ppl. Get well soon Cleo.😢
If that is a “goodbye” letter then that’s so messed up…. How can you speak about your mother like that and then turn around and destroy her whole world by doing something so selfish 🤦♂️
You do not really understand depression. To be sad DAY AFTER DAY.... nothing is ever joyful. It is a true illness. Please get HELP. It is not a goodbye.. IT IS A REAL CRY FOR HELP!!!!!!!!!
Cleo is the EXACT wrong psychological profile to go onto a reality-TV platform. This is a very fragile person. She's dealing with several demons, and the producers exploited this beyond recognition and shame. There is no "reality" TV without sensationalism. Real life is far more mundune without clear protagonists and antagonists. It's not entertaining. These types of shows are scripted or semi-scripted, and you best believe the 90-Day franchise does takes and line reads during production. We haven't even gotten into the deceptive editing. The reality-tv platform is actually a sleezy way for productions to get around SAG regulations and royalties and exploit non-actors by turning their actual indentities into a product. Indentities they can never reclaim as their own any longer. I have no qualms with these folks when they become smart and decide to exploit the franchise right back. What is good for the goose is great for the gander.
Let's say she used her fame from the show to fund her transition?? WHO CARES? I get so tired of people debating these things without an understanding of what trans women are up against. Trans women are typically fighting a race with time. The earlier you have access to hormones and surgery, the more effective they are and thus, they more effectively treat gender dysphoria. I know! I've been on hormones since 2009. Surgeries are increasingly more and more expensive. We're talking upwards of 100k. In order to fight the stop gap between time and effective treatment, many transgender women have to exploit themselves, usually through sex work. The audience donating to her, even if it's just a substantial chunk of change, helps her immensely and knowing what we know about the show and how little it pays and how much these people often lose, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world for me to use her little bit of notoriety to not be in that position. It's the smartest thing to do. Doing it any other way prolongs the process. That aside, I hope she's being surrounded by love. She's still alive as of now.
Speaking of josh Seiter (sp?). He recently was linking up with Glorietta aka Chong’s Besos of Love After Lockup infamy. She had ig w him and seems as if they were mutually using each other to remain relevant and hopefully get mentioned in the blogs. Though I ain’t heard nothing yet and my nose is up in all them blogs but whatever go them!
Hell no I don’t wanna see them again ! False flagging is this hurting everyone else that really needs the help you’re lying and deceiving people when there’s real people out there that are suffering and don’t speak enjoy your 15 minutes I hope last 💯it’s Christian pushing this on her money money money!
Agreed 👍🏻 EVERYTHING, you said is spot on ! I absolutely 💯 % agree with your whole viewpoint ! When it comes to transgender metal health, I feel that its completely a mental health issue. Christian isn't a good match or life mate for Chloe. He's a narcissist & will continue to injury Chloes mental health. Chloe needs therapy & lots of it. The post made on social media platforms proves that point. Well wishes & I hope Chloe stays away from Christian it won't end well .
Yes, they got back together a few weeks ago and she posted this letter like 2 days ago or maybe 3, so a little while after they got back together. I'm not sure about your second question...
Shes come a long way...lovely cats..lovely home...good job...keep your head up..things will get better...❤...youll meet your forever person...turm to your mom now...❤❤😂❤❤
Nikki really pissed me off with her comments, exposing personal conversations in this post of Cleo's to gain some kind of clout... The two people that impressed me the most was Jasmine in the comments!!
TBH if this is what happened, I think I will lose some respect for them. Not that it matters, but if Cleo is willing to fake a relationship for clout and money while simultaneously complaining about not being seen in a positive, I think it will turn a lot of people against her. We'll see if that's indeed true, which it very well might considering that these two had nothing in common and the breakup shocked no one. Ugh...
WOW ....is that a suicide note wow chilling praying she gets help and I hate that guy getting with her it added to her pain.Wow...am glad you addressed that becoz I was wondering if she was doing this for clout too.
All those people to thank, all that love and acceptance that she said she received from them, and yet, she follows up by saying that not being accepted by other is why she’s doing this. So the people who know and love you have more impact than the people who don’t? Girl. SELF LOVE. so selfish to be like, “these people that love me are just not enough. Everyone has to or I’ll take myself out.” I don’t get it.
I get it. It's very possible to have supportive people in your life and still not feel loved. That's a part of several psychological disorders. Mental illness and trauma do not have to make sense. It does not invalidate the pain she's experiencing. And it doesn't mean that she is ungrateful or anything else... she's struggling.
I’m not generally up on the rules & regulations that apply for the National Health Service (I wrote the whole name out for anyone who’s still uncertain, & there’s more info here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Health_Service_(England) However, I imagine the reason behind needing money for the surgery is dependent on any or all of the following: ~ eligibility for non-British nationals (if she hasn’t already been naturalised ofc!) ~ there are certain hurdles one needs to clear in order to access the surgery itself ~ the length of the waiting list for gender affirming surgery Irrespective of why, I do hope that the darkness soon dissipates & brings with it a sense of peace.
Gosh ! Such a long, long ….. long letter . What the hell ! Absolutely annoying when u were reading thru ‘ I love u a .. I love u b… I love u c…. I love u d …….’ And it kept on going 🙄
On the show, Cleo seems like a gentle soul. I hope she finds comfort, and is able to get some therapy.
I like Cleo. Hope she is OK.
Cleo contacted me and is getting the help that she needs, she's been very apologetic for putting that out there...
Oh I am so happy to hear she is OK and getting help !She is a beautiful girl inside and out!
It's obvious that Cleo is very depressed both on the show & her current statements Her letter appears to be a suicide note. I hope she receives therapy she needs. Just because her surgery might be at no cost, her recovery time without a salary & therapy costs can be expensive. Depression & suicidal ideation needs to be taken seriously & it's important that her friends, family & others are there to emotionally support her & find her the care that she needs. Cleo is a beautiful, caring person & deserves the very best. I hope she finds someone who truly loves her & is not with her for the publicity.
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I suppose this ** could be some kind of cry for help but anyone committing subside for real would never advertise it in this manner. It is the opposite of how it goes irl.
He needs therapy and to take his mind off of Tristan Tristan has wondering eyes
NO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM COME BACK
I am very worried about Cleo. Really like her. Finding a new home for your beloved pets is a very serious thing, and that’s why i am worried. Cleo would never give them away unless she thought she was going to pass away.
I agree. It broke my heart when she mentioned them. I hope she doesn't leave them, she obviously loves them.
@@ginayoung130 i have two cats also. No matter what, i’d never give them up unless i knew i was going yo die very soon. That’s why i am so worried about her. She loved those cats to pieces. So worried. I can’t imagine what has happened.
Please, Cleo, get well soon.
I've been there, but I promise, I promise if you love you, you will rise up out of this. It takes time, it's not overnight, but please don't give up.
That is so sad. No one should ever laugh at someone or underestimate someone in that emotional place. She started the show with so much anxiety . If my friend was in that place I'd try to trap them into spending time so I could get them help. Bottom line be there don't ditch them or let them sit alone.
Agreed their story line was enough for one season only. I hope Cleo gets the help she needs. Christian's personality and actions were selfish.
Christian to me just doesn't appear to be the person for Cleo.
@@DailySoapDishI personally don't feel that Cleo has a type or should explore it until their mental health is straightened away. Many times relations are harmful for those needing psychiatric help.
Cleo needed something more than Christian could give. No one person can be a savoir for a person, and Cleo needs to sort her mental health out before she finds love again. Maybe love yourself more. 😢
Only JESUS can help her now. HE will be timely and heal her with HIS stripes! ✝
I feel squeamish about all this. I hope 90 Day does not bring them back.
I don't think she should have the go fund me page asking people to pay for her transition
She knew she wanted a sex change years before, she should have worked hard and save all her money to pay for her own surgery. It shouldn't be left to strangers to cover the cost
Hope she gets the help she's calling out for.
The letter Cleo wrote sounds like a letter you write when you want to check out from this world and never come back. Hope she gets the help that she needs and feels better.
It's more for attention. Taking ones life isn't that hard to do if one really wanted to. These people deserve help.
It’s for attention n trying to get people to feel sorry for him
@@TheSands83 it should be considered abuse
It is. All the warning signs that I was taught to look out for in the Army.
More for attention.......
Is that why the guy who jumped off the san francisco bridge lived?????
Because emding ur life is easier then one might think... Disgusting
Sending Cleo much love , I hope she gets the help she needs she needs . 🙏🙏🙏
I feel sorry for her but I don't believe that I should pay for her transition
As someone who did experience brief depression when my child was young, not sure if it related to pregnancy or not. Anyways, what I learned is only you can lift yourself up. Family and friends can give you short attention but they have to worry for their own life. She said about people should accept people for who they are, this is impossible, you cannot expect people to accept everything about you. Best is turn off your social media application and work on being mentally strong.
Excellent advice. It must come from within. Sometimes you need to make new friends or a relocation and a fresh start. I pray more humans can let their kindness shine thru.
I think people who are seriously in danger of doing a thing to end it all, go do it the moment they reach that limit...they are determined to do it so they dont let anybody on to what they are about to do.... I think the people who write letters, texts or calls are the ones crying out for help because they are not quite ready to do the thing. I'm not a statistician so I dont know the numbers but this seems to be what I have seen over time. One family member drove to a secluded spot on the river and wasn't found for 2 days.....several people Ive known throughout my life have written letters like this but fortunately found the help they needed. One kid took a bunch of pills and told his brother what he just did, yet there were 2 bottles of opiates and sedatives in the same cabinet that he knew would have been effective....so yeah, I thin k Cleo is in a very dark place so I hope she can find exactly what she needs to bring her to a better place :)
Cleo you are a lovely person in and out. You can get through this depression step by step please believe that. My daughter went through it and it was so sad but you can get passed this. Don't force anything and call or be with loved ones. You deserve a good man not one that won't bring out the best in you.
She needs to think about the welfare of her cats and not think about harming herself
SHE NEEDS TO CARE FOR HERSELF FIRST!❤
@@Tina-lg8py yes spoken like a true selfish human being
Sending Cleo good vibes and well wishes 🙏 🫂💕
I wish her the best also but I'm so sick of these people begging for money
Exactly where I stand.
Oh Cleo, I hope you read this & don’t change your body because your hormones will get out of balance & as you get older it hurts your bones & you can’t take estrogen forever because of side effects. Think of your tomorrows. You are ok just as you are. I see a very introspective person in you Cleo. 👍
Cleo seemed like a very depressed person from seeing her on the show.
It seems sometimes people think a surgery will fix their lives when it won’t & the problem is from within & needs to be addressed & worked on.
You’re right, people might do anything. I worked for the suicide crisis Center and you can NEVER take anyone Lightly. The criticism can put her over the edge. Even if she is looking for attention, she CLEARLY needs help and it’s a no win for public debate. SHE NEEDS HELP!
This is what makes this situation so tricky... once you become a "public" figure, discussion about and criticism of you is to be expected. Ideally you want TLC and its producers to vet out the people that aren't able to handle what comes with the territory of being on the show, but lately I'm not sure they even care... It's a bit of a tragedy, and IMO Cleo shouldn't have been on the show. But not all of the attention is bad either. For ex, Cleo would have never been able to raise the $10k or whatever she raised had she not appeared on the show.
I'm so sorry to hear that Celo is going through this. Anyone with depression and especially anyone thinking of hurting themselves MUST seek help. There is help out there, people. Stay with us. The world needs you. A huge hug to anyone hurting. I have been there....
Cleo is struggling with her transition, I think. She must give all that a place before loving someone
Cleo needs therapy hes clearly dealing with alot of demons
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@@Charbear25 & You are showing how you are to the world! Assholes always show themselves!
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I like Cleo and I am straight.
I hope Cleo doesn't Self Delete 😮
Same here.
Cleo needs to get mental health help asap. The surgery stuff should be on the back burner. No surgery will give her the mental stability that she needs to be happy long-term. She's putting the cart before the horse, so to speak. Good healthy mental health is everything!!
Cleo seemed depressed when she was with Christian, as well.
I mean, he was very obviously not into her... That could very well be part of it.
Her cheery black cloud best friend wasn't helpful either!
If a couple was in a relationship and one threatened to end themselves to get attention from the other, it would be abuse. Why isn't the same when people do it in family or friendly relationships?
It's the same. Anyone who actually is that low and considering ending their life doesn't bloody post their goodbye letter on social media. This is so rank I actually can't. And I have lost people to suicide. This is the absolute worst kind of egocentricity
Cleo, take your own advice man
false flagging does not deserve support respect or admiration in any way shape or form this is an intention grab and disrespecting people that are honestly going through these things daily this person did this for clout financial gain and we all fell for it like sheep we are we fell for it uplifting her with comments when she most likely didn’t even feel this way she wasn’t even willing to end it it was just a false flag and we all fell for it sympathy up her Ying yang and support her go fund me supported her mentally emotionally financially it’s a game they’ve manipulated us and coerced us to feel bad come on when is it time for us to wake up if you were really mentally ill and you’ve had suicidal ideation you know you can spot it out whether it’s for attention or a real attempt we know playing games for financial gain in the worst way you can is what this person did so if anything this person should be subjected to nothing but what she put out false flagging and false claiming you are in a certain way for financial gain karma
Cleo, You are a very lovely person. Never sell yourself short with someone that is not there 100% for you. You deserve someone who is 100% committed, without hesitation. Just know that you are truly enough alone if that person never shows up. You are beautiful just as you are. Don't sell yourself short for anyone. You deserve the very best. So nice to have met you on 90 day fiancé. Wishing you the best. Joycie ❤
Oh my god I’m praying that she’s gonna be okay. When I watched the last season my first thought was “Yeah I’d def be friends with her. We have the same vibe.”
This is so upsetting to see and I’ve never even met this girl. I hope to god she’s gonna be okay.
I think she’s just a clout chaser. She’s always been very dramatic in such a passive way. I think she plays the victim a lot
I think you are mistaking her being on the spectrum and HsP as dramatic. Her brain doesn’t function like most people
Good luck to him 👍
Cleo stay strong please! Love your gentle soul. You are young. Life is long and many things are in store for you. Hang in because you have so much potential. And a breakup is not the end of the world! You will persevere, you are strong.
I felt sorry for cleo all through this show she wasn’t mentally stable for all the things then cameras around eather plus she has autism that’s not very nice how’ve she was made out to be baisically trying to get Christian to love her but he was just rotten and loved all woman too much and was constant flirting .its same with Nikki and Justin Justin ie igor is just using Nikki for money and that’s it
When someone requests gender reassignment, I believe they undergo lots of testing, including psychological. Given what we've seen on the show, it seems clear that she's not stable. I wonder how that works? Plus, a public FB will not help her cause. My heart goes out to her, but ditching Christian is Step Number ONE.!!!
I really liked Cleo I so hope she is OK and gets all the strength love and support she deserves and co tines on her journey ! Keep Strong Cleo u can do it!!!
I would say that Cleo is planning on taking her life...I hope and pray that someone reaches out to her, she is such a sweetheart 😢😢😢
We’re ready for Cleo to go. Bye Mr. Cleo.
Its depressing to see how many people believe that she is so desperate for attention that she would think these things, write them out and then post it publicly and then wait around to read the comments and reactions. Kinda twisted. Anyone having these thoughts and expressing them is in need of some empathy and the support needed to get better. Analyzing the reasons behind the dysfunction is just a covert way to trash her character. So, just keep on picking her apart and not believing that she is hurting. I choose to believe most people who speak about the pain they are experiencing mentally and emotionally. I hope shes able to get to a good place in life and continue to be a momma to her fur kids. ❤
Beautifully said. I couldn’t agree more ❤ sending love
@Jess-cw9gi thank you, ❤️
The sad reality is that people would do that in 2024 as "clout" is the choice currency of the time. Just think to yourself, why do most people even go on 90DF if it isn't for clout? It's been years and the show has degenerated into a clout chaser's paradise. I gave an example of a recent case in Reality TV of someone who faked his death for precisely this reason; clout. So it's definitely possible and reality TV "stars" aren't exactly known to be model citizens. Now I'm not saying that Cleo did that, but it's definitely been done before and is likely a reason people are skeptical about what they read on social media more than ever.
I'm with you in hoping she can turn the page in this dark chapter.
@DailySoapDish I do agree that there are people who would absolutely do and say anything for money and fame and clout... and, I have never watched her on the show, so I could definitely be missing context in the situation. That being said, knowing that she is transgender, seemingly has acted out and behaved dysfunctionally with some consistency in the past, is different in my opinion than the usual clout chasing antics online and on reality TV. Also, when she mentioned her pets, apologizing to them for not staying with them... I have said that exact same thing in my head, my journals, and to my pets. That's not for show or attention. There's no clout, no gain in that. She seems to be in a lot of pain. And people do strange things when they hurt.
I spent a lot of time in my life crying for attention, making dramatic statements and generally just being off putting because of my psychological problems... none of it was fun for me or anyone in my life. I just think the actual clout chasing goons are more rare than people who have genuine problems that have a chance of being improved upon. Hope this all makes sense, I ramble when I care 🙂
100% it does, thanks for sharing that@@ginayoung130 :)
Hope Cleo is okay.
Same.🙏
Much love to Cleo & to everyone in the comments.
agree I dont donate - i will donate to someone/organization I know only- agree with you
Smart. 👍
Hope Cleo is well 🤞🏽 That Josh dude, emailing you to do stories about him is hilarious! 😂 He is the 🫅 of the "clout chasers" 🤣
Hoping for the best for Cleo. Josh was hilarious those emails gave me a good chuckle since he would pretend like it was someone else emailing for an "exclusive about Josh Seither" although I could see from the email name that it was him. 😂😂He is by far the king of the clout chasers LOL. Those emails stopped after his fake death hoax tho... 😅
Sounds like she has a lot of people who love and care about her
It's sad I hope she gets help .
Same. 🙏
If she’s getting help for her mental health and is in good hands, that’s all I care about.
Next story.
❤❤ Cleo you’re a Beautiful Girl and I hope and pray you get the help and support you need you deserve to be Happy, Loved and Free!! ❤❤❤❤
Nikki could mentor her, and can make use of existing parts, and show her what dilating a wound forever is like.
Two men discussing womanhood? That's exactly what humans need 😅😂
Is there a way to reach out to her or someone close to her? I’m not religious but my thoughts go out to her. Please Cleo don’t do anything destructive.
I'm not sure about the family members, but if you want you can send her a feel good message I'm sure she'll appreciate that. instagram.com/stereotypical_cleo/
Cleo has serious mental health issues & should not be on 90 DF, for her own good. I always felt like Christian was playing with her, & being on TV just encouraged him to continue. I hope I'm wrong about that. I don't think Cleo is posting these things to try to get money. I think it's just her personality to think about & talk about her issues, maybe to her detriment. I would love to see her healthy & happy. But not on a TV show that takes advantage of people's pain.
Agreed MsSherry. Christian looked like he was using her and 90DF has become more exploitative than ever. It's a bad combo for someone like Cleo.
I'm sure she is very overwhelmed. She seems very sensitive, and I hope she gets lots of people surrounding her in her life to help her through everything. Christian was not a great match for her. He is far too insensitive to her needs. ❣
Hope she will find peace. Autistic,trans a relation or not quit stressful. She's genuine, that can't be said about most couples in last and this year series !
I hope so too 🙏
I LOVE you Cleo. Stay strong because this will resolve in HIS perfect timing. HIS plan. ✝
8:09 'As no woman or man under the sun would deliberately choose to be attracted to men, if given the option'
“LOVE AND LIGHT”
I think Cleo is a good person but her mental "disorders" (for lack of a better word) were always at the forefront of her identity. Anxiety, depression, being around crowds, etc. Maybe it's how the show edited that gives me this observation but I never saw her identity outside of her mental issues. This sounds like an outreach for help, more than anything, to the specific people she listed. I say its an outreach and not a suicide note because she posted it online. It shows she would also be waiting for "likes" and comments and dm's...
Dan, damn that Josh story is wild!. I hadn't heard about that...(I couldn't even remember who he was until you elaborated on him..then I remembered...barely!)
It is. Very disturbing but if you knew Josh's MO even a little bit, not surprising... he tried to date literally every female in the 90DF universe and somehow Karine fell hook and sinker for the scam. When that didn't provide the expected "clout" he even said he was gay. 😂He also often posted about his mental health issues which I forgot to bring up here.
@@DailySoapDish Thx for all the details...I definitely remember him now! 😊👍
I think this was all for attention, I know someone who did something just like this.
Hope Cleo finds help and grows old.
Same here. 🙏
Hang in there, Cleo!
This is a sick thing to write and post. He needs a padded cell.
Sadly, people that unalive themselves don’t try to get sympathy from the world.
I call this a sensational attempt for attention as his story is over.
He wants money and fame and maybe a new storyline on 90 day. Sharp Entertainment!
Don’t reward this but with more air time.
Say you are offing yourself and get rewarded?
What message is that sending?
Stop saying she.
I’m a she. A real she.
He didn’t think it through.
I hope she will get proper medical attention. A lot of times, the hormones don't balance properly n cause depression in transgender ppl. Get well soon Cleo.😢
If that is a “goodbye” letter then that’s so messed up…. How can you speak about your mother like that and then turn around and destroy her whole world by doing something so selfish 🤦♂️
You do not really understand depression. To be sad DAY AFTER DAY.... nothing is ever joyful. It is a true illness. Please get HELP. It is not a goodbye.. IT IS A REAL CRY FOR HELP!!!!!!!!!
Cleo is the EXACT wrong psychological profile to go onto a reality-TV platform. This is a very fragile person. She's dealing with several demons, and the producers exploited this beyond recognition and shame.
There is no "reality" TV without sensationalism. Real life is far more mundune without clear protagonists and antagonists. It's not entertaining.
These types of shows are scripted or semi-scripted, and you best believe the 90-Day franchise does takes and line reads during production. We haven't even gotten into the deceptive editing.
The reality-tv platform is actually a sleezy way for productions to get around SAG regulations and royalties and exploit non-actors by turning their actual indentities into a product. Indentities they can never reclaim as their own any longer.
I have no qualms with these folks when they become smart and decide to exploit the franchise right back.
What is good for the goose is great for the gander.
Let's say she used her fame from the show to fund her transition?? WHO CARES?
I get so tired of people debating these things without an understanding of what trans women are up against. Trans women are typically fighting a race with time. The earlier you have access to hormones and surgery, the more effective they are and thus, they more effectively treat gender dysphoria. I know! I've been on hormones since 2009. Surgeries are increasingly more and more expensive. We're talking upwards of 100k. In order to fight the stop gap between time and effective treatment, many transgender women have to exploit themselves, usually through sex work. The audience donating to her, even if it's just a substantial chunk of change, helps her immensely and knowing what we know about the show and how little it pays and how much these people often lose, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world for me to use her little bit of notoriety to not be in that position. It's the smartest thing to do. Doing it any other way prolongs the process.
That aside, I hope she's being surrounded by love. She's still alive as of now.
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God bless Cleo ❤️
Speaking of josh Seiter (sp?). He recently was linking up with Glorietta aka Chong’s Besos of Love After Lockup infamy.
She had ig w him and seems as if they were mutually using each other to remain relevant and hopefully get mentioned in the blogs. Though I ain’t heard nothing yet and my nose is up in all them blogs but whatever go them!
Hell no I don’t wanna see them again ! False flagging is this hurting everyone else that really needs the help you’re lying and deceiving people when there’s real people out there that are suffering and don’t speak enjoy your 15 minutes I hope last 💯it’s Christian pushing this on her money money money!
That is so sad 😢😢😢😢
Chris was looking for the fame
My opinion is you are being to hard on Cleo. This person is hurting.I wish them the very best.❤
Agreed 👍🏻
EVERYTHING, you said is spot on !
I absolutely 💯 % agree with your whole viewpoint !
When it comes to transgender metal health, I feel that its completely a mental health issue.
Christian isn't a good match or life mate for Chloe.
He's a narcissist & will continue to injury Chloes mental health.
Chloe needs therapy & lots of it.
The post made on social media platforms proves that point.
Well wishes & I hope Chloe stays away from Christian it won't end well .
I’m confused, Cleo and Christian got back together, then she wrote this goodbye letter? Are they still together, was it a cry for his attention?
Yes, they got back together a few weeks ago and she posted this letter like 2 days ago or maybe 3, so a little while after they got back together. I'm not sure about your second question...
Shes come a long way...lovely cats..lovely home...good job...keep your head up..things will get better...❤...youll meet your forever person...turm to your mom now...❤❤😂❤❤
Treatment, not surgery. These people are suffering, and society makes it worse
Nikki really pissed me off with her comments, exposing personal conversations in this post of Cleo's to gain some kind of clout... The two people that impressed me the most was Jasmine in the comments!!
I think they got back together to do another season to help her get the money she needed
TBH if this is what happened, I think I will lose some respect for them. Not that it matters, but if Cleo is willing to fake a relationship for clout and money while simultaneously complaining about not being seen in a positive, I think it will turn a lot of people against her. We'll see if that's indeed true, which it very well might considering that these two had nothing in common and the breakup shocked no one. Ugh...
@@DailySoapDish This is all so messy
..Obviously TLC has NO problem exploiting anyone....
Sad truth. It's not like terrible things haven't happened with castmembers from TLC shows before...@@jojojersey8190
WOW ....is that a suicide note wow chilling praying she gets help and I hate that guy getting with her it added to her pain.Wow...am glad you addressed that becoz I was wondering if she was doing this for clout too.
They were a terrible match.
Christian might be after that money then off he goes
You think Christian wants to steal Cleo's gofundme and that's why they got back together?🤯
Well he never really showed true care and love
@@msoptimistic4365its hard to say when he is having his issues coming out.
I hope he gets the help he needs!! He's first struggling with mental health including understanding He's a man!
AH
Sir you look like the man That big guy nose 👃 😂
She shouldn’t have gone on the show.
All those people to thank, all that love and acceptance that she said she received from them, and yet, she follows up by saying that not being accepted by other is why she’s doing this. So the people who know and love you have more impact than the people who don’t? Girl. SELF LOVE. so selfish to be like, “these people that love me are just not enough. Everyone has to or I’ll take myself out.” I don’t get it.
I get it. It's very possible to have supportive people in your life and still not feel loved. That's a part of several psychological disorders. Mental illness and trauma do not have to make sense. It does not invalidate the pain she's experiencing. And it doesn't mean that she is ungrateful or anything else... she's struggling.
I’m not generally up on the rules & regulations that apply for the National Health Service (I wrote the whole name out for anyone who’s still uncertain, & there’s more info here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Health_Service_(England)
However, I imagine the reason behind needing money for the surgery is dependent on any or all of the following:
~ eligibility for non-British nationals (if she hasn’t already been naturalised ofc!)
~ there are certain hurdles one needs to clear in order to access the surgery itself
~ the length of the waiting list for gender affirming surgery
Irrespective of why, I do hope that the darkness soon dissipates & brings with it a sense of peace.
Thanks for that Bethany, that helps! 🙏
Strong disagree she is doing this for clout 🙄
I didn't say that she is or isn't.
I would like to see this couple come back on the show, but hope Cleo doesn’t do anything to herself.
I'd like to see Cleo back but with someone that is actually interested in her.
This is not a couple, is an act.She needs to love herself first and most of all before she dates again
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What a phony show.
After her request for go fund me to finish sex change surgery was done.
Did she fully go through with the sex change surgery? I hadn't heard anything about that being finalized.
Gosh ! Such a long, long ….. long letter .
What the hell !
Absolutely annoying when u were reading thru ‘ I love u a .. I love u b… I love u c…. I love u d …….’
And it kept on going 🙄
You can get transition surgery on the NHS, but maybe she doesn't want to be on a waiting list.
So childish. That's the only way she can get attention
Cleo seems to require a lot of attention
Agree. People who abuse their love ones like Cleo should be shamed
Trying to get attention.. pathetic.
Well, so long.
No
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