Saturn square/opposition Venus in Synastry
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This video is about one of the most painful aspects couple can have in synastry. This aspect brings major lessons for Venus person. My question would be: is it even handleable to maintain long term, loving relationship if you have this square? You tell me... I would love to hear your stories, experiences...
I have my Saturn square the Venus of person I truly admire. And even if this seems strange but this is the kind of teaching moments I really need. As Saturn signifies limits, restrictions ect. I've had very difficult childhood wich leave soooo many complexes especially in love. So it's hard to open up for me.
And when I meet this person and he shows some attention for me I can't accept this and don't know how to react openly. Often I ignore him. And only overthinking after all ends.
When he shows that my ignorance hurts a little I really start to work on myself and this help. So much joyful, warm time together and hope for more.
This helps me to open up for love and not just dreaming in my crab shell.
One of my very good friends has this with her fiancé. His Saturn opposes her Venus in her 1st-7th house axis.
They have been together for 9 years and getting married in 11 months.
She as the Venus had some doubts at the very beginning but she gave it a chance / worked thing through and now super happy.
So I don’t know about the square but regarding the opposition, I think if Venus does not run away at the beginning then it’s pretty binding and gets better and better overtime.
I agree, the opposition is less vile
@@ntwenhlemsezane9490 Yes, well that's because the opposition is a meeting point.
This is very true in my personal experience as well. My Venus is in exact opposition to my partner's Saturn. It gets better over time
This is very true in my personal experience as well. My Venus is in exact opposition to my partner's Saturn. It gets better over time
This I can see.
You described it perfectly! And yes I have it with someone I cannot forget.And yes it was a long distance affair. It's been years since and it lasted long.I was the Venus (Taurus) opposite his Saturn (Scorpio). As the Venus person I felt unloved, unappreciated and that he didn't take me seriously enough. So I left. It was very painful for me cause I still love the person. I have Venus / Saturn trine in natal. And we both have Saturn in the fifth.
I think those who have Venus Saturn in their natal chart can handle it. Simply because they have been “trained” their whole life to deal with challenges and hardships. Plus they don’t know whether the next one will be “less challenging” (probably will be challenging given the natal Venus Saturn).
Those who don’t have the natal aspect will likely give up quickly. They just have not build up the same level of resilience.
Same goes with Saturn return I think. I observed those with a lot with a lot of Saturnian energy handle the return easier.
I have natal Venus opposition Saturn and am starting to see a long time friend of mine as a serieus love interest. (Took us 15 years to get here). We have Venus (me) opposition His Saturn. Also, my Venus is natally in tenth house. I’m used to Saturn energy (maybe too much).
I had a double whammy venus square saturn with my ex so we also had the composite venus square saturn, and we were married for 12 years. We had kids, but I knew from the beginning of our relationship that it was stifling and suffocating. But - it wasn't like that in the beginning, only after two years into it, and by that time you're so steeped in the relationship it's like moving thru quicksand. I will never repeat this scenario, and I learned a lot about myself and am truly grateful that I am not in this relationship anymore.
It's so true, I've been in this kind of relationship for 17 years. I am the Venus and he is the Saturn. Finally I am ready to let him go and it's so difficult to do so, I feel like dying and heartbroken. But I bet on the days when I completely healed and rebirthed to a new way of self love and self worth.
It’s been almost 10 years for me and I am also the Venus, him Saturn . It has been the most emotionally engulfed relationship I’ve ever been in . But it’s been so beautiful and scary painful…it’s been so hard for both of us to let go . I don’t want to because I love him deeply but I feel like idk which direction to go anymore . I think for now it’s best we go our separate ways to heal and grow and maybe we can fix things . I know I too need to learn self love and self worth . Thank you ❤️
@@thethirsthokage I always thought because the venus person is always the one that leaves, that venus didn't care for saturn anymore.
No. Venus leaves because of how cold saturn behaves.@@The_Eleventh_Sign
I had a significant but painful on-and-off relationship that included my Sagittarius Venus squaring my ex's Saturn in Virgo. He did not prioritize me in his life and always placed another woman above me. We were both too young and immature to handle a serious relationship with such a difficult aspect. Our brief involvement became binding though because we have a child together. It was definitely a heartbreaking period of my life!
sad sorry to hear
Sounds familiar
@@marietg8025 😄🥴
Her Saturn is in Capricorn so it's it really bad, all my meals are prepared 2weeks in advance and I can only talk to my friends on the phone...once a week !
I've started having long conversations with the refrigerator, it's the warmest thing in the house
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Id say saturn forgets the good memories when they feel partner doesnt care. But verbal communication of feelings and thoughts of venus to saturn will cause saturn to think oh okay yay :)) im saturn hes venus, met long distance, lots of blame on social media you know the leftonread annoyance and misunderstandings really harm connection but if both mature then u will get past. Just be gentle to your loved one saturn truly doesnt want to live in the cold🧸 self aware saturn person needed for it to work out.
I have Venus opposite Saturn plus Saturn square Venus in the synastry chart between me and my love interest. It is the most unusual relationship I have ever experienced. And it's not over yet cause we can't seem to let go. Honestly. Ask me what you will. Painful would be an injustice in describing it. Because it's better than that. It is amazing in its way.
How are you guys doing now?
I had my venus square his saturn and the reasons you mentioned are partly applicable. He had already 2 little children but he was very very affectionate to me. He showered me with romantic gestures. The main problem was that his family situation wasn't compatible with mine. So we split after more than 2 years.
I have been Saturn many times in these relationships. I find Venus hard to love long term and get annoyed and irritated with them eventually.
squares or oppositions?
True I’m Saturn his venus opposite my Saturn tired of him
I have to say that I had exact opposition with a person that completely broke my heart, while he only benefited from the connection, but it was My Saturn in Scorpio opposite his Venus. On the other hand a person that has been nothing but incredibly supportive and devoted to me while I do not reciprocate romantically has his Saturn exactly opposite my Venus. So in both cases of unrequited love it was Saturn person experiencing the heartbreak and Venus person being unaffected or helped greatly by Saturn person. Of course there are other aspects to look at involved as you say.
Beata!! I was going to ask for this video. What a nice surprise given this heavy topic! I have natal Venus (virgo) square Saturn (28° Sag, so almost capricorn, in the 6th house). It is very difficult to receive love and any love felt (from anyone) and it is always questioned. As a child this is a really difficult aspect. This is where finding the root of your pain and developing self-worth as you grow is so important as you say. That work is critical in any relationship and these Saturn aspects bring attention to that and whatever needs to be healed. I think the beauty of saturn is that is does get better with age/time, at least natally, but I think with relationships too. With my Venus opposite his Saturn in our synastry, you are so right about the taming element. He may be younger, but can act much, much older and maturer, which at times almost encourages me to "misbehave" all the more simply to make fun of him. I think this is a playful energy he enjoys sometimes thanks to some planets in leo, but sometimes not so much. Of course experiences will vary based upon the individuals and other aspects they have going on and that is what people really need to consider, we are composed of many elements as individuals first, and although we may very much feel these dynamics, I do not believe we are ever defined by one singular aspect. Another example, my venus is also exactly conjunct his chiron (future video? ;)). It is definitely all the more painful for us both with his Saturn sitting across from us, but I am able to bring love and understanding to him at a very sensitive point and he does the same. From my experience, romantically and with family, both people love another deeply, but yes there is almost always a delay or some unavoidable separation (we currently live on different continents), an element of fear of abandonment (family issues, surprise!), feeling unaccepted (questions of self-worth), and emotional distance at times which really require the development of emotional independence and inner strength, from both parties, not just venus. Saturn is often in pain too, that is the problem. He also needs to learn how to heal and has been hiding what he thought no one would notice. Then venus comes along. As a result, this aspect offers a great deal of growth both personal and relationship wise, but it also requires the themes of saturn (time, hard-work, and dedication) which may be difficult or even unbearable for venus who simply wants pure love and adoration and less criticism or "advice". Any hard aspects offer up a lesson for both partners inside and out of the relationship and it is up to them to decide how much effort they are willing to put in. Sometimes this includes having enough self-love to walk away. Even if frustrating, I think the opposition may be less difficult than the square because from my experience there is a push-pull dynamic which allows just enough love to shine through at the right moment. With the square it seems there is rather a constant denial or blockage of love and affection. I would be really interested to see how others have experienced this and how the opposition compares to the square. Thanks Beata, as always. I left you quite the novel ;) Happy Holidays + Winter Solstice
Hi Heather! Your comment is so insightful, I wish everyone could read it. I very much agree that this aspect (having it natally) is getting better with time. I don´t have this one in my natal chart, but I have few friends who do, so I know the struggles and pain. BUT you know what? To me, hard natal chart aspects can be the most beneficial at the end. These aspects carry the energy, but it´s just too much. But when we learn to cooperate with what is going on and why it is going on in our life, we can win. With this aspect you can become relationship expert, and I am not joking. Yes, having opposition venus-saturn in synastry is more manageable than square. This is how Universe operates: you have square natally and now you are in a relationship with someone with whom you have it in synastry. This brings, indeed, great opportunity for you to master this aspect. All the best! Beata
Hey there! My love interest has her Venus conjunct my Chiron too! I’m the Saturn she’s the Venus and in my natal I have Venus sextile Saturn.... that natal placement is definitely the “fine wine placement” so I’m hoping it helps here
Hi! Thanks for your analysis, I'd like to give you my feedback. You're right about Venus in earth signs. That's my case, I have Venus in Capricorn and I never cared too much about excessive romantic gestures 24/7. Here and there is ok. On the other hand , having Venus square Saturn in synastry with my ex boyfriend, there was clear absence on his part of signs/words/complements which could show his attraction to me and would make me feel nice and wanted. Somehow I never felt that I was his type of woman physically, he was often stern, cold and even surly when we went out together, as if he were my father and not my love.
I had this aspect with a former friend of mine! So I have my Venus conjunct my Sun both in the early degrees of Scorpio and she had her Saturn at 29° Aries, which was also conjunct her Venus in Taurus. I'm a very spiritual and emotional person, and whenever I acted with those traits she would avoid me and expected she expected me to go to therapy because she didn't want to have to deal with the fact that I get emotional a lot. Her thoughts were that I wasn't taking care of my mental health if I wasn't going to therapy and I needed to grow up. At that point in my life, I had been going through a lot of pressures from my life and I was doing my best to stay afloat, and my method was crying whenever I needed to in order to let my emotions out. But she thought I was a mess and told me she didn't want to be friends with me because I wasn't going to therapy and I was being immature by handling my emotions in the manner I did. The thing is though, this happened 6 years into our friendship. I had been there for her during her own hardships, but the second I went through my own, she just wanted to get rid of me for being over emotional. It was really hard because she was basically trying to tell me that she knew better than me how to handle the situation I was in, but she wasn't the one living it. Anyone would be an emotional wreck if they were at the brink of being homeless. It wasn't immature of me at all to cry. Even though she was the one hurting me by constantly trying to force her opinions on me, it really hurt when she left my life because I had cared about her so much. She was my best friend. I know now that she wasn't because when push came to shove, she was only in it for herself and she blamed me for her leaving me by saying that it was my fault for not taking her advice and not doing things her way. She was so stubborn and never respected that I wanted to do things my own way and wasn't open to me being myself. I'm really sad about losing her friendship because I had felt like she was a dependable friend, but at the same time, she wasn't and it's for the best that I look for people who are more supportive of me
Very sorry to read this sad story. Hope things got better in your life now. Peace and love dear!
My Saturn squares my husbands Venus. We’ve been together 17 years and I really care about him like so much that even if one day we’re not together anymore or I die before him or something I want him to be well and happy but it is true that I don’t approve of many of his indolences like he likes to buy too many clothes and chocolates etc lol (for me too and even though I usually think it’s unnecessary money spent and it’s unhealthy, I actually secretly appreciate him doing these things for me because if it’s down to me I won’t allow myself to have them. I’d just have the bare minimum so he brings indulgent things into my life that otherwise I wouldn’t have 😂because I don’t like splashing out on expensive meals out, presents, technology… etc
If it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t have gone to holidays or bought some nice things for the house … so although I criticise him I’m actually sometimes secretly grateful that he brings these things into my life. … 🫣🤔 although I still think it’s unnecessary to buy THE most expensive chocolates or computer… I’ve learned to accept him as I know it’s part of his love expression and part of who he is 🤷♀️ .
I also have Saturn square Venus in my own chart so I’m tough on myself too 🤨
* meant to say indulgences, not indolences
Thanks for your input!
Saturn square his Venus and moon. I don’t know the degree. Basically he ran away.
samee! he was a scorpio moon and venus in leo, while i was saturn in taurus
@@nuanceofcolour3248 wow same except I was scorpio moon /the leo in venus he was the saturn taurus he was the worst 🤮
Yo he ran so fast I was like what in the world just happened ?!
Saturn represents commitment. Who wants love without commitment? I say that’s the bruh of war between the two aspects. Fighting to stay or go.
Bruh of war?
We have venus square Saturn (synastry) and the relationship is in fact painful very painful and yes lots of tears I’m the Venus person, but not bc of the reasons described here, the relationship developed really fast, I didn’t feel like he restricted me anything, he isn’t as touchy and warm as me but he’s not cold or insensitive. I do feel like this relationship affected me the most. And yes probably self-love is why I met him cuz he cheated on my and disrespected the relationship multiple times and I took him back everytime. He has venus opp Saturn in his natal chart so he’s kinda used to this placement I guess. We’ve been 4 years together and I this that’s about it I do love him but he doesn’t love me enough for me to keep trying
Thank you 🙏 very much for sharing the real story of this aspect. Wish you all the best.
I’m so confused because there are COMPLETELY different views of this aspect from different astrologers. For Tam Astrology for example, she has this with her boyfriend and she even brought him on a video about this.
I had venus square saturn with my ex (and sun) , it happened EXACTLY as you said. Saturn withheld love, criticised everything, was embarrassed by me, saturn was a bastard. Happened after two years roughly. I was made to look needy. Which I suppose I was because I got no attention.
My venus is in libra, my saturn in the twelfth and trined to nearly everything. He was moon square saturn natal.
Only other real love I've had since is my venus opposition saturn 🙄, and it's going absolutely nowhere 😂. Saturn is also natal moon square saturn, and moon in capricorn. And attached. I do not learn. In my defence there's too much pluto and descendant stuff in this one to even try to stop it. However I did learn astrology since and I'm dealing with the brakes saturn applies in a much more collected manner. I'm now much older and saturn is very young. And I'm never going to look to settle down with that one.
Thanks 🙏 for sharing Marie. Send you lot of love❤️
I have Saturn square Venus synastry with a guy who already has this in his own chart. I feel like I can’t express my feelings bc sometimes I feel he’s distant. We also have a lot of Pluto aspects e.g ( my moon mars conjunct his Pluto/ his mars Saturn conjunct my Pluto/ my ascendant and sun square his Pluto/ his sun Venus Jupiter mercury square my Pluto/ all his previous planets in my 8th) ugh:(
Same here! But I walked away from him 😂
Same here! I also walked away from him. Hurts like hell but I don’t see it working when he is so frugal with his emotional display.
People ending relationships when they see this aspect when there is No actual evidence of it in real life are completely missing the point!
Can you do lilith in partners 8th house synastry?
I was the Venus (Pisces first house) he was the Saturn (Sag 7th house) we also had his pluto in scorpio conjunct my scorpio moon exact. his moon was exactly opposite my moon and his pluto conjunction. (his pluto fell in my 8th house too) his 4th house virgo sun was opposite my 12th house pisces sun within 2 degree orb. honestly the restrictions we faced (saturn) was due to circumstance and the distance between us WE NEVER EVEN MET but i have never felt so obsessed and gravitated to someone else. with the saturn square venus though i did feel as if i would have to look perfect all the time around him but there was mutual respect a true genuine feeling of it on both ends. his venus in cancer was opposite my neptune conjunct uranus and he idealised and romanticised me and kind of put me on a pedal. god it was all so intense idk if i will ever feel that same depth for another person. oh and my pluto, North Node conjunction was exactly conjunct his descendant. intenseeeeee
it was like we both felt so deeply for eachother and there was almost a psychic understanding of this he would call me when i would think of him etc and it went on and off for a while but took me two and a half years to get over. he was also going through his saturn return at the time so no wonder
also its worth noting the square has almost a bonding effect where the saturn and venus both have a bond they cant get out of or didnt decide and it creates internal struggle
Wau! What a sad story to read. It´s interesting how some people can affect us so deeply even if we never met them. BTW: you look beautiful, no surprise with Venus in Pisces in the 1st house :)
@@modernastrology4521 thank you :) yes and all the more frustrating as my mercury conjunct mars in aquarius hated the feeling of obsession and attachment that i couldnt break! scorpio moon in the 8th house isnt square that but thats what really fucked me up! pluto conj moon opposite his moon. the saturn just got in the way, because he was so focused on his job and work and he said 'if you were in my life now i wouldnt want to waste time working and thats the issue.' sooo typical saturn. also bc we never met i guess my pisces got in the way and I filled in the gaps with romanticism, so i kind of broke my own heart. Anyway i was subconciously waiting and couldnt get over it and then i found out 6 months ago hes getting married soon, that pluto conjunct my scorpio 8th house moon made it so i literally felt a harsh intense stabbing pain in my heart, such a physical response, all very typical pluto
OMG! :( this is crazy just to read about. You are very much on point with "filling in the gaps with romanticism"... i have venus square neptune and neptune square asc, so I know how illusions in love are painful and how we can delude ourselves with fairy tails. Surely with your Scorpio moon everything is deeply felt and experienced, so is pain.
He hasa libra venus.. opposite my aries saturn (r)... and its in my 7th house.. so i take relationships seriously.. so i left him. Even tho we love each other.. his leo moon conjunct my venus&mars in the 12th house.. his venus is conjunct my scorpio moon in my 1st house.. so many other good aspects..
But i must say the saturn person suffers as well.. because she wants the relationship to work and for the long term.
@@xlinsdayx I’m Saturn and I don’t want it to work long term I think that’s a different aspect you speak of to give venus hope should be honest hon
What if you have this aspect as a square in synastry but a trine in composite & Davison charts ? I’m also saturnine being a cappy sun & moon plus Venus in Aquarius in my natal chart... in my case in the Venus and the male is Saturn ...
I recently met someone I looked at their chart and saw Venus Square Saturn Exact degree her Saturn Virgo my Venus Sagittarius. Anyways also my Venus is Square her Virgo Ascendant as well about 6 degree orb (her Saturn is close to it from the 12th house) we met up a few times she really seems to hate me and not want to talk to me this confuses me. She was fine for awhile then suddenly finds herself annoyed by everything about me. My Saturn in Sagittarius (close to but not conjunct my Venus) is Also Square her Mars in Pisces on the exact degree so doesn’t suprise me
She probably needed verbal confirmation of your feelings and intentions.
What if his libra saturn square his taurus venus natal, but other person venus in virgo is making a trine to his venus? We deffinitely have to look all the aspects...
I have Saturn conj. Uranus in my natal, and it squares his Venus and Sun. I wonder does the Uranus change something here. We were friends for 12 years first. Almost all other aspects in our synastry are good.
I would like to see a video on Moon-Venus aspects in synastry, esp. the soft aspects. Thank you!
Do you have Saturn conjunction Venus in Synastry video?
And do you have Saturn conjunct Pluto synastry video?
He is venus in aries .. I'm saturn.. He is too wild. He is also very impulsive.. I don't like that
Is conjunction in synastry or composite as hard as the square?
Depends on the planets involved
What if you have this aspect but there are other supportive aspects to help the relationship?
Hi Taína, you will still feel it. This still will be the theme of your relationship. This aspect cannot be overcomed just by other supportive aspects.
Modern Astrology thank you so much for your reply. We do have a very intense connection and the intimacy is like no other but I’m thinking of ending the relationship as soon as possible
@@Tainathea what happened?
@@Tainathea Wich did you have? Oooosition or square?
Can you do mercury in partners 12th house synastry?
I must say, I have always thought you were a very in-depth and insightful astrologer... brilliant video as always.
Thank you 🌟👌🙏🦋
Do you do synastry readings?
I have the square with my boyfriend. It basically comes off as him chastising me for having fun. I have Lilith conjunct my Venus so ... I'm certainly not gonna be the type of woman who's okay with that.
I have Saturn in Scorpio and he has Venus in Scorpio. Does this consider as Saturn conjunct Venus in Synastry?
Yes, exactly.
@@modernastrology4521 Thank you very much!
I have this Venus Leo 8th, Saturn Taurus 5th.
I have Venus opp Saturn in my chart. My bf and me have Venus opp Saturn but his sun and Saturn conjunct my Saturn. It is a very weird relationship.
What orb would you use for this
up to 5
What if Saturn is retrograde!?
j Hi, Saturn being retrograde gives added layer of difficulty. Do you have any personal experiences with this one?
Hello, I’m the Saturn person. Venus woman is 8yrs older. Her Venus is conjunct my Chiron, but opposite Saturn (1 degree), Uranus (1 degree), and Neptune (7 degree)...
Do the other planets involved help or hurt?
We just met in Jan and now feel like inseparable. Formed a tight emotional bond only as we are both unavailable. She’s also from another part of the planet...
I guess I can kind of see the influence...
Hi! This is exactly what Saturn aspect does in a synastry. You form a tight bond, even though there is very slow progress in a relationship because of opposition. Well, Saturn and Uranus are the most important here because of degrees. I have a sense that this can be a relationship where you have to work through some obstacles at the beginning but later on.. you will be able to form relationship which will be unusual, long distant, on and off - not the easiest to maintain. Yes, you write she is form another part of the planet..
wow this reminds me of my story. We had a long distance affair for many years. We would meet twice , three times a year. Till I ended it cause as a Venus person opposite his Saturn I felt unloved and unappreciated. Although sex was explosive he was later cold as the ices. I felt like I had to see him every time like it was obligation but it hurt me deeply that he didn't take me seriously or at least that's what I thought.After all these years and though I moved on I still love him.
What about Saturn square Pluto
Yes, another interesting one. I could do that.
@@modernastrology4521 😊
What if persons A venus square persons B Saturn on the ascendant? Venus cant feel ugliness of person B or feels it and is hurt by this appearance???
Hi Gabi! Venus definitely feels Saturn´s person "ugliness" (..shall we say) and feels restricted in some way. Often times, it is love which is restricted by Saturn, that´s why this aspect is considered to be one of the most difficult in relationship astrology. And it is really Venus person who pays the price for this, Saturn is much more unaware about how he behaves and treats Venus.
@@modernastrology4521 thanks for answear :) so aspect venus square ascendant = " for me this person has ugly appearance " venus square ascendant and Saturn = " for me this person has very ugly appearance and hurts me" right?
His moon conjunct my sun and asc too!
excellent
His Saturn sextile my venus my Saturn is opposite his venus
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