@@jeanxza5395 an is invisibility frame where you can't get hurt. Switcing arts gives you a very small window of s. Kome was able to use that to his advantage to immediately kill Zackray. A very risky move that could've been accomplished with just holding shield and then grabbing. Maybe he just wanted to be flashy, or was baiting Zackray by holding the Manado wheel out, showing vulnerability.
@@FFF813 yeah and its also called a “blade of grass” but we dont call grass swords right? Knives are blades and arent swords. Even worse, the keyblade is only a “-blade” in name. It literally isnt a bladed weapon, it’s clearly a blunt object.
@@cooldes4593 In the Smash sense, he would be considered a "swordie". Bylith might use polearms, but people still end up calling her f-air a sword. I get where you're coming from though.
Great set by Kome and Zachray, it had me on the edge of my seat but the commentators soured the experience a bit. Them counting Sora out so early on in the set to their speechless reactions at the end made it all worth it though
Yeah, the commentators were definitely a downer to the set. Talking down on a new character and making off-hand jokes that deterred from the match at hand.
@@mathunit1 But making use of those mechanics is incredibly hard. That's why there aren't many Shulk players. Most of the DLC characters' wack shit is easy-ish to pull off
Oh yeah, now we're starting to see some of the really practical, disgusting stuff from Sora. Zackray's usage of up-air to consistently shieldpoke (that move does way too much shield damage lol) and KILL is filthy. Among other things.
0:50 is that like foresight for shulk? 29:10 or at 14:18 if not then wow Shulk did even attempt to counter except that one towards the end when hit from the back pause
Zackray may be good, but there's no doubt Sora is top tier. I used him for the first time a couple weeks ago and almost beat everybody I played against. Once I switched characters, I didn't make it nearly as far
I feel it's far to early to say Sora's tier placement especially a top tier, we gotta see how his meta develops. That being said, i do think he's a good character
@@Matthew.Morcos in the 2019 fall pgru he was 25th. But I feel the same. There are quite a few Japanese players rated above him that I feel like he can easily take.
@@goosnavslakovic4908 Imo he definitley has better results than 24-15 other than maybe Ken. Including Sparg0, I think that puts him at 17. Is there anyone else in the conversation?
Are these commentators high? lol they say "thats the first time hes used (x) in this set" like 3-4 times, ,and theyre literally wrong everytime lol. Like they arent even watching. Then they say Soras fair is down tilt? Like are you even watching the game man?
There are 4 types of commentators. The EEs: questionable game knowledge but loud, funny and high energy to generate hype. The m2ks: immaculate game knowledge, really goes into the specifics of what's happening and you learn a lot. The randos: generally talk about how the players "really know what they are doing" or "have great spacing" or "have strong fundamentals/reactions", basically things that are going to be true about any match in any fighting game and while they aren't wrong, they aren't saying anything worth saying. Then theres the 'mute button' commentators that get a lot wrong and/or have really low energy/annoying voices. These guys are halfway between 'randos' and 'mute button'. I know this is harsh, and they were probably exhausted (at least it sounded that way) but I've just kind of had it with being distracted from matches by bad commentary. Just let me enjoy the set :(. Props to that one guy though that noticed the amazing i frame usage by Kome.
Because Sora's counter cannot activate from behind and it cannot be b-reversed; meaning you cannot turn around with it immediately after initiating the move, making it much less flexible than other counters. whiffing a counter while your back is turned may just get you killed.
Zackray is a monster and I’m loving the Sora gameplay. These commentators are absolute trash though. M2K and HBox should commentate every match with how hype they get.
Japan doesn't exactly have a huge pool of English speaking commentators. The use who they can get. Also, these guys were on commentary for the entire time. They'd been going for about 6 hours at this point. Hard to be high energy after all of that.
To these commentators: please stop talking 20 minutes about your limited understanding of a matchup or how good you think a move or character is. No one cares enough about that for you to spend most of the time talking about it. At least TRY to mention their interactions or a bit of their habits, PLEASE.
You don't ever see this match-up. And when it's two disciplined patient pros, it doesn't get better than this
Sora vs Shulk, a fight I always wanted to watch.
@Kevin Ramos SHHHHHH!!!! Don't spoil it!!
@@Arthur-xr1vk sora fan is retarded
@@sammyrivera1141 Do I taste salt? LOL
@@sammyrivera1141 saltyy
Just two gods basically duking it out nothing new in smash lol
13:04 One of the craziest use of iFrames I've ever seen. Kome wildin'
Wow!
i didn't even know this was a thing
Can some1 explain what Happen
@@jeanxza5395 an is invisibility frame where you can't get hurt. Switcing arts gives you a very small window of s. Kome was able to use that to his advantage to immediately kill Zackray. A very risky move that could've been accomplished with just holding shield and then grabbing. Maybe he just wanted to be flashy, or was baiting Zackray by holding the Manado wheel out, showing vulnerability.
I just love hearing soras name in a smash match he's my favorite fictional character of all time and he will always be my main
Good job to the player using the character with the magic sword
Keyblade isnt a sword so shulk?
@@cooldes4593 it’s called a key-“blade.” Lighten up on the pedantry and try to enjoy the joke. 😑
@@FFF813 yeah and its also called a “blade of grass” but we dont call grass swords right? Knives are blades and arent swords.
Even worse, the keyblade is only a “-blade” in name. It literally isnt a bladed weapon, it’s clearly a blunt object.
@@cooldes4593 gotta give credit where credits due- gottem
@@cooldes4593 In the Smash sense, he would be considered a "swordie". Bylith might use polearms, but people still end up calling her f-air a sword.
I get where you're coming from though.
Great set by Kome and Zachray, it had me on the edge of my seat but the commentators soured the experience a bit. Them counting Sora out so early on in the set to their speechless reactions at the end made it all worth it though
Yeah, the commentators were definitely a downer to the set. Talking down on a new character and making off-hand jokes that deterred from the match at hand.
Agreed, honestly.
Dude, that 2-0 comeback was amazing. Zackray is so good :0
Zackray Sora??? *click*
11:10 three extremely safe swings and hits, 42%. I play shulk and I still forget how he is more DLC than most of the DLC (except kazuya probably)
I swear Kazuya feels like 3 DLC mechanics in one hahaha
He's in buster mode, so this makes sense. There's no DLC privilege going on here, take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
@@bobthebuilder609 The fact that his Monado activation has I-frames AND can act as a combo breaker is pretty much like DLC privilege.
@@mathunit1 But making use of those mechanics is incredibly hard. That's why there aren't many Shulk players. Most of the DLC characters' wack shit is easy-ish to pull off
I know I’m late but I love how the Shulk has random aggressive outbursts and it’s rlly fun to watch
You already know I'm gonna click on this video when I see Zackray's name 🐸
right
No we dont know, who tf are you?
23 min in Zackray hits the first up smash he threw out in the entire set
3:49
I have never seen a top player get so many counters off before, wow.
That first zackaray win was actually a fair 1 to side tilt
1:41 “solid fundamentals” three down tilts
5 actually
Oh yeah, now we're starting to see some of the really practical, disgusting stuff from Sora. Zackray's usage of up-air to consistently shieldpoke (that move does way too much shield damage lol) and KILL is filthy. Among other things.
everytime I see up-air kill i'm like "huh?" cause it rarely gets the kill screen lol
U spelled beautiful wrong
This set is played so slowly yet its not boring at all
I love that you can faintly hear the crowd roar after the d tilt up smash
Sora vs Roxas?! Nice.
Didn't even noticed lmao
I came to comment this!! Haha
tWo!?
DUWOH WIELD!
That’s the fiora alt tho
I've been waiting for this matchup let's go
Every time Sora uses Thundraga it sounds like he saying " He double Jumped!"
This game was crazy. Yeesh.
0:50
is that like foresight for shulk? 29:10 or at 14:18 if not then wow Shulk did even attempt to counter except that one towards the end when hit from the back pause
Nope.
At 0:50 whenever Shulk changes Arts he gets a few frames of invincibility.
13:04 Kome is a savage
26:50 nice aye sora 16:48 those yet counters 11:51 14:47 beautiful counters 9:14 20:21 that was just funny and that was a thing of beauty 23:17
Kome is actually god like
13:03 was that him seeing into the future ability nvm he had intangibility from switching arcs wow
D tilt up smash is absurd LOL
That's dirty, Sora's Upsmash is like "Up the butt!" Ouch!
i love the soft voice caster (both of them are good)
I wish I had this luck with music in online matches on BF/SBF/FD. I never get bangers like these
Sora is a good character
So damn good omg
Zackray may be good, but there's no doubt Sora is top tier. I used him for the first time a couple weeks ago and almost beat everybody I played against. Once I switched characters, I didn't make it nearly as far
It’s possible the people you were playing against simply didn’t know how to play against Sora. MU inexperience is a real thing
I feel it's far to early to say Sora's tier placement especially a top tier, we gotta see how his meta develops. That being said, i do think he's a good character
7:51 what is this song
Tarkun and Kitapy from Fatal Fury 2
It's so good
I feel like if kome cleaned up his game play and not whiff his punishes, he'd easily be top 15, maybe even 10. His shulk in advantage just cheats.
Is he not top 15? I feel like I'd struggle to name 15 players better than him
@@Matthew.Morcos in the 2019 fall pgru he was 25th. But I feel the same. There are quite a few Japanese players rated above him that I feel like he can easily take.
@@goosnavslakovic4908 He might not travel or compete as much as the japanese players above him
@@goosnavslakovic4908 Imo he definitley has better results than 24-15 other than maybe Ken. Including Sparg0, I think that puts him at 17. Is there anyone else in the conversation?
@@spreadwuvokay true
Zack never used Sora's 10 Mile dash attack as a burst option to aggressively close the gap/Cross up shield smh
Are these commentators high? lol they say "thats the first time hes used (x) in this set" like 3-4 times, ,and theyre literally wrong everytime lol. Like they arent even watching. Then they say Soras fair is down tilt? Like are you even watching the game man?
There are 4 types of commentators. The EEs: questionable game knowledge but loud, funny and high energy to generate hype. The m2ks: immaculate game knowledge, really goes into the specifics of what's happening and you learn a lot. The randos: generally talk about how the players "really know what they are doing" or "have great spacing" or "have strong fundamentals/reactions", basically things that are going to be true about any match in any fighting game and while they aren't wrong, they aren't saying anything worth saying. Then theres the 'mute button' commentators that get a lot wrong and/or have really low energy/annoying voices. These guys are halfway between 'randos' and 'mute button'. I know this is harsh, and they were probably exhausted (at least it sounded that way) but I've just kind of had it with being distracted from matches by bad commentary. Just let me enjoy the set :(. Props to that one guy though that noticed the amazing i frame usage by Kome.
too many banner ads in this video, please calm it down
24:48 funny I watched this after he won the whole thing
Closest thing Smash has to Sora vs Roxas.
16:47
Do yourself a favour and watch this with the sound muted.
Why people barely use Sora's counter?
Fun fact it can stop Wonderwing
@@PurposeDriven7_ true cuz ppl can just wait it out
Because it's not on Wifi.
Because Sora's counter cannot activate from behind and it cannot be b-reversed; meaning you cannot turn around with it immediately after initiating the move, making it much less flexible than other counters. whiffing a counter while your back is turned may just get you killed.
@@PurposeDriven7_ But a linear recovery with a hitbox? Zackray barley tried to counter Kome in this, you dont have to spam it in neutral lol
Hate when you barely hear the game
Zackray is a monster and I’m loving the Sora gameplay.
These commentators are absolute trash though. M2K and HBox should commentate every match with how hype they get.
Japan doesn't exactly have a huge pool of English speaking commentators. The use who they can get.
Also, these guys were on commentary for the entire time. They'd been going for about 6 hours at this point. Hard to be high energy after all of that.
29:19
To these commentators: please stop talking 20 minutes about your limited understanding of a matchup or how good you think a move or character is. No one cares enough about that for you to spend most of the time talking about it. At least TRY to mention their interactions or a bit of their habits, PLEASE.
Super Anime Bros
The commentators with the soft voice could start a very successful asmr channel lol
I always thought Sora and Shulk are kinda dressed similar
Estuvo re buena esta pelea
These commentators are BORING bruh
I would take boring over Keitaro’s moan shout every time someone gets a kill confirm.
If this game had Chun li and Shadow
It would be almost perfect
*counter exist*
*Sora players* uP B?!
Sora's so damn good. My main. But 2 great Swordsman fighting. I'm not as good as them.
9:14 that was beautiful
Iceaga -_- clearly u didnt play kingdom hearts
Why no side b? Sonic Dash would have done some good.
Sonic Blade is extremely unsafe if it’s shielded. Could very well lose a stock if you use it recklessly at higher percentages
I mean, he preferred to play safe and ended up winning. Leave it to Zackray
16:51 yeet
Keyblade vs Monado
ZAK NICE !!!
these commentators are always boring though
16:48 Double yeet 😎
Really enjoy these commentators
Golf commentators over here.
GG
23:18 more like beautiful
KOME!!!!!!!!
Commentary is not good
I love watching Zackray, but Sora is so boring to watch. Only DLC i actively dislike.
Zackray is such an annoying word to pronounce. Doesn't even remotely flow. Not good if you want to be playing in English speaking areas.
Battle of the stupid looking swords
shulk's monado is badass as hell, but okay. it's okay though, not everyone(you) can have good taste.
That sora is so bad wtf
実況解説やっぱり不評で草
どんな感じで言ってるんですか？
@@ぐれーぷ-j8f 発言馬鹿にされてたりつまんないって言われたり、いいって言ってる人もいる。