OMITB Season 4 Episode 8 Breakdown / Analysis (Just what the Oh Hell is Dudenoff's Problem?) [recap]

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  • @mine0146
    @mine0146 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I absolutely love your deep dives can't wait to see ur cats dressed up lol. Im so glad I found your channel 🥰

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mine0146 thank you so much for being here it truly means so much and I'm so happy to have you ♥️

    • @mine0146
      @mine0146 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You truly tell it like itis 100% respect that thank you❤

  • @rafaeladefaria8803
    @rafaeladefaria8803 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    18:47 I am portuguese and can't even say "portuguese" as much in a sentence 😂
    Love your recaps, your meme referrals and the way you talk about the show makes it feel like when you end an episode and just want to rant about it with your closest friend! 😂❤❤

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rafaeladefaria8803 when I tell you that's the biggest compliment you could have given about my video, thank you so much for saying that ♥️♥️😭

  • @fresamouse
    @fresamouse หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    something i noticed...
    Both RUDY and MARSHALL (in ep.5) divert the investigators attention by bringing up COMEDY.
    Rudy (ep. 8) offers to do a comedy version of the bit from a Few Good Men, which immediately makes everyone wave him off and start to not take him seriously as a suspect.
    Marshall (in ep. 5) gets a similar reaction when he brings up his comedy set as a feasible alibi, because he knows nobody wants to see it.
    I think this is one of the many signs that Marshall and Rudy are working together, and also will tie into the real world commentary of not taking writers/stunt people as seriously as other creatives in the film industry.
    (Rudy also lied about Helga being his girlfriend, cos i think he and Rudy ARE together in a relationship and hence worked together)

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Interesting theory! I also just realized Rudy is really jacked so maybe he was involved as a stunt person at some point since he's an aspiring actor too, that could be our connection between the westies and this hollywood storyline!

  • @Pumpkinbell21
    @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love your OMITB breakdowns so any show that has some kind of murder mystery element would be awesome but I’m honestly looking forward to any shows you’ll be covering next.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Pumpkinbell21 I was raised on the likes of clue, Columbo, and monk so I love a good whodunnit, if you have any suggestions send them my way!

  • @matthewJay88
    @matthewJay88 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Couple of crazy thoughts/theories going into the finale. 1). Tap in theory: (just occurred to me) Sazz intentionally went into Charles’ house, knowing the sniper was watching as a way to sacrifice herself for Charles, therefore the message was her telling Charles it was her last time tapping in for him, and she did it to save his life.
    2).The entire Hollywood team has been shooting the trio this entire time - which will actually be what the movie is. - maybe they faked sazz’s death or killed her and have been taping the trio like a reality show for a documentary style movie.
    3). Howard is the mastermind, and a former student of dudenoff. CLUE: after the shooting on set, Howard says he learned to never stop rolling, but then hesitates to say who taught him. He eventually says the brothers sisters. Surprised nobody has talked about this.
    4). The actors are in on it somehow. Eugene Levy appears to collect mable’s fingerprints by asking her to open chips for him. He also looks concerned when Charles mentions sazz’s stunt center. Eva acting weird all season…
    5). Bev melon went to.sazz’s stunt facility to try and find script because she knows Marshal stole it.
    6). Lester the doorman is shown in the same scene with Marshall helping him wheel in their jackets - very sus considering what we know about Marshall and how little Lester has been in it, this makes sense for the mastermind theory. Lester has all that access.
    7). Jan is the mastermind. She wrote the note on her own door, mad at Sazz for breaking it off. Sazz tries to warn Charles about this but is killed before she can (goes with first theory).

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love these! I do think that if sazz was faking her own death it would be a bit heartbreaking for all the beautiful scenes we have of charles processing this, it would feel a bit like a waste of emotional investment if that were true. I do also agree that bev was 100% looking for something in the shed in episode 4/5, there is no way she was just wandering around in there holding a gun for no reason, also how would she have even known about it?? much food for thought, thanks for sharing all of this :)

  • @lukacunningham342
    @lukacunningham342 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    6:15 - 6:17: This makes me wonder if unlike the previous seasons, the killer will just march into the trio’s apartment with a fricking shotgun and just confess to murdering Sazz while gunning the place down, it would be a *TERRIFIC* way to end a season and unmask the killer!

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      HAHAHAHA honestly now on my wish list of things to happen 😂

    • @lukacunningham342
      @lukacunningham342 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatz3859 Take notes, John Hoffman!

  • @nanctjojohnson7907
    @nanctjojohnson7907 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always enjoy listening to your take on each episode. Thanks for your time and effort❤

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nanctjojohnson7907 thank you so much for tuning in 😭♥️

  • @00pulce00
    @00pulce00 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4:43 yaaaassss! never forget the fuck-ass smudge! LOL!

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@00pulce00 fuck-ass smudge will officially be written on my gravestone (and on my gravestone will be etched a fuck ass smudge)

  • @molliekatz432
    @molliekatz432 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The not figuring things out is on brand for the trio -- they never figure things out til late episode 9 and only when hit over the head with something!

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And then they act as if it never occurred to them in their wildest fever dreams before 🫠

  • @knottingelle1546
    @knottingelle1546 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your prediction about marshall is right again!

    • @knottingelle1546
      @knottingelle1546 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just finished watching ep 9

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure yet if I'm happy about it or not 😭🫠

  • @tegdirb1017
    @tegdirb1017 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am bitchy judgey person and we are ok cultivated by the best . Again, the breakdown is better than the whatheflockofseagulls is going on this season. PS I am all for the GiMP in full Maplethorpe this season to save it

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tegdirb1017 if Lester shows up in a gimp costume I will quit my job and dedicate my life to campaigning this show to get an emmy, we NEED this to save the season 😭

  • @rustiesharpe3193
    @rustiesharpe3193 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for using my comment! Made my day!!!

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rustiesharpe3193 thank you for commenting as well!!

    • @Pumpkinbell21
      @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I get so excited when I see my comments too! 😊

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pumpkinbell21 I am so glad and I appreciate the thoughtful comments you leave on my videos each week :)

  • @Pumpkinbell21
    @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m just gonna say it, the first five minutes of episode 9 is (IN MY OPINION) better most of the middle episode of this season. And bev’s giant bowl of desk broccoli just ads to the unsettling food vibes of this entire season.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hold up I didn't even notice the desk broccoli???? Am I numb to weird food this season????

  • @rustiesharpe3193
    @rustiesharpe3193 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Still can't let go of my Detective Donna as Moriarity theory. Yes, you are correct. She has provided the Trio with very helpful and timely info and tips. But what if she is only giving them "bad data" to get them off the right track. She mentioned to her wife that she need to crack a big case in order to get promoted. What Tim Kona had approached her with initial details of his investigation of Teddy's grave robbing crimes. She takes the info and intends to work it as her own and not share any credit with Tim. She then poisons Tim before Jan comes in to "suicide" him. The Trio moves in and puts all the pieces together before Donna can finalize it. Same with Tim's suicide mystery. Now Donna lets the Trio do all the leg work with the plan of taking credit for the case. Donna is so focused on her career that she is willing to kill to get promoted. She'll feed them info so long as it helps her. She planned on killing Charles because he was the best detective of the three??? Hey, I'm just throwing spaghetti up against the wall. LOVE YOUR VIDS!

    • @psiloveyou1964
      @psiloveyou1964 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The thing is, she wondered why Tim's tox screen, & phone analysis requests weren't processed. She gave Mabel Tim's phone. She said she wonders who in the police department wanted to keep Tim's Case closed. There's a rotten cop in her police department. I noticed Charles sister's husband is a cop, but he may not be the one that held back previous reports.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rustiesharpe3193 I think if detective Williams is involved at all it would be a later in the story sabotage if anything but I do still think assigning an alternative motive to her actions would take a lot for the writers to justify. But you never know for sure! Thanks so much for being here and commenting! :)

  • @Pumpkinbell21
    @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thing that’s been driving me crazy is that when the trio rushed out of the building to Oliver’s car once they found out they were being watched, they didn’t take anything with them. They didn’t grab the box of evidence or changes of clothes (lookin at you Mabel) or anything from their apartments before they went to Doreen’s. Or at least that isn’t shown at any point. Forget where the actors got all of the season one clues, where did they get any of it at all?! Did the actors bring them all changes of clothes and also stopped to make sure they grabbed all the podcast files before heading out to Long Island? There’s so much in this season that is bugging me. I don’t know if it’s intentional or just lazy writing but why is everything important in this season happening off screen?

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Pumpkinbell21 the fact that Mabel is homeless and jobless yet has the best clothes and all the stuff she could possibly need is definitely something I think about on a daily basis 😂 continuity is not a friend to this show

    • @Pumpkinbell21
      @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatz3859 her aunt must be a wealthy mob boss or something. Or is she just using her old key to steal clothes from all the wealthy arconia residents? Nobody is going to ask her how she can afford the 672 ish different coats she’s worn over all the seasons?!

    • @Pumpkinbell21
      @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kitkatz3859 my working theory is that Mabel’s aunt is part of the caputo mob family situation that was briefly mentioned on the news just after Mabel found out glen died. Thats how she gets all these nice clothes. Mabel could be the link between all the murders in the building.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pumpkinbell21 if Mabel is somehow in the know and had been playing a double agent situation I would be gobsmacked beyond comprehension lol I feel like we've seen too much of her for the writers to pull that off. Her aunt on the other hand could be very shady for sure especially affording this damn apartment unit that she doesn't even care enough to live in

    • @Pumpkinbell21
      @Pumpkinbell21 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatz3859 and why did her aunt live in bunny’s apartment when Mabel was a kid but not now?

  • @SavageThrifter
    @SavageThrifter หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I tend to lose interest in shows/movies fairly easily. OMITB has always been one of my favorite shows, keeping me super intrigued each week. This season I honestly haven't felt that way lol. I feel like it's a giant web of characters with more side quests than actually plot progress, just to disprove red herrings. Which is something the show has always done but it's on steroids this season and it's been frustrating enough and the characters' decisions have been so lazy and stupid...it's taking me out of my interest for the series.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SavageThrifter I totally get that for sure. It's been a very up and down season. Certainly a lot of potential but you are right that the side quests this season feel very distracting at this point

  • @madisonfreddie
    @madisonfreddie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d LOVEEEEEE if you’d cover Dark Matter or Bad Monkey (both apple TV). I just finished both and one of definitely better than the other but both were really good!!!! Haven’t seen anyone cover these yet, both 2024

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@madisonfreddie I just got apple TV so I would definitely love to check it out! 👀

  • @Rosered2318
    @Rosered2318 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    with the actor's conclusions being a little sus (bassoon being played with left hand, smudge, etc?) and us blaming the writers, i'm starting to wonder....why do we believe the actors? like, wouldn't it make more sense if they were truly mirroring the trio and almost getting there, but not quite? this would allow the trio to do the clean-up work and give the audience a more-satisfying conclusion to the fourth season (i don't think we are going to solve Sazz's murder this season, btw, i think that will be the "twist" in addition to another taking place for twin murders this season - i have my bets on who as well), but still give the audience the Moriarty character in a succinct way that doesn't drag us through the trio looking through a bunch of old stuff and having to come up with a reason for them to revisit old cases?

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Rosered2318 you raise a very good point, and it's something very annoying about this season seeing the trio just believe literally everything anyone tells them without thinking twice. It's so annoying!!

    • @tmtb80
      @tmtb80 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn't believe the actors and don't buy the Dudenoff incinerator story either.

    • @tmtb80
      @tmtb80 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The smudge is in a bizarre spot. That is not how lefties smudge. They draw their hand across the ink they have just written.

    • @richsuavey600
      @richsuavey600 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the actors are meant to represent the viewers, because they behave like a comment thread that came to life. It might be generous to call their info iffy.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@richsuavey600 I think that's a very good perspective as well!

  • @kaiwancallender2761
    @kaiwancallender2761 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, I had to make her look crazy and from what I seen in episode nine I think that was that’s a big misdirect. The Westies represent the guys that represent the guys and the building or how everybody in the building interacted something or something.😅 any anyway from what I understand about when I want to watch episode nine it is supposed to be to you wasn’t been going on for the past four years in the season

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kaiwancallender2761 I definitely dont think at this point that the revelation in this recent episode will tie to the whole overall story with the mastermind, if they do I will be absolutely shocked 🫠

  • @emilys3757
    @emilys3757 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Not sure if reality TV is your thing, but have you thought about reacting to Love is Blind? It would crack me up to see you give Thunderbolts to hot mess contests and/or couples 😂

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      So so so unbelievably happy you said that lol love is blind literally becomes my entire personality when a new season drops 😂

    • @nicki1050
      @nicki1050 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Oh my gosh. I would love this. I love your humor 😍

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nicki1050 would absolutely love to do a LIB review if you guys are interested, this season has certainly given a lot to discuss 👀

    • @eyemah4440
      @eyemah4440 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatz3859yes!!

  • @lukacunningham342
    @lukacunningham342 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can anyone else agree with me that when I say that *I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT’S GOING ON!?* I don’t even know who the killers are, my theories are Marshall and Glen but Marshall was apparently out of town (although we never saw the video) making Glen *THE ONLY REMAINING POSSIBLE SUSPECT!* I’m not joking here, we’ve eliminated the Westies, cannot be the movie stars, the Brothers Sisters, Howard (he was at Oliver’s party during the time so he could not have gotten there to dispose of the corpse timeline-wise) or Loretta. You could say Bev hasn’t been cleared yet but let’s just say, the minute she held the trio up with a gun, we all knew she was a red herring.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah to be honest it feels a little cheap if it ended up being a hired gun because that kinda eliminates any ability to sus people out on their alibi or something. I'm with you, confused as fuck 😭

  • @erichollywood9181
    @erichollywood9181 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a new theory that this whole season could be the movie Zass is making and could all be an act to get inside the minds of Charles, Mable and Oliver, Zass could be secretly recording all their genuine reactions and the way they think when it comes to solving a murder. Everyone could be in on it and this is all an act, even the Glen scene where he gets the pillow over his face could just be part of the movie. At the end when they reveal that the murder was Marshall, Zass will pop out and say aaaand cut that's a wrap great job everybody. And the movie will be finished

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erichollywood9181 if sazz faked her own death just to play mind games I would be so pissed lol though sazz is known for doing way too much way too often 😂

    • @erichollywood9181
      @erichollywood9181 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kitkatz3859 I don't think she faked her death, I think that her death was just a scene in the movie. Even the episode where they had the documentary, I feel that was just a behind the scenes type episode, I thought it was a bit odd that the brother sisters were recording they're every move. They were doing that because they wanted to show the audience how they think and how they react to things when they are solving the murder. It could also explain why there's so many stars this episode, you can't have a good movie without some star actors in it

    • @erichollywood9181
      @erichollywood9181 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@kitkatz3859 If this season is just Zass's movie. I think the episode about dudenoff, he asks Rudy "what would you do if your life was a movie and what would be your happy ending" then he says "if my life was a movie I'd want an all star cast".. I think this was a hint to us that this is all just a movie and the happy ending will be Oliver getting married!
      We also know that Zass helped Charles make friends by making up a poker night so he wasn't so alone. She could have added this to her movie by having Dudenoff making friends and having 'Oh Hell' as the game they all play. Also we all assume the footprint on the radiator is from the shooter, what if it's actually from one of the brother sisters holding a camera shooting the scene of Zass getting shot

  • @kaiwancallender2761
    @kaiwancallender2761 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah, it is classic soap opera and I just seen an episode nine and I know that most of the stuff is very much metaphysical so meaning what character is gonna be found out to be the killer this evening? It makes it nine.9 episode nine metaphysically

  • @lisa-lisa-lisa
    @lisa-lisa-lisa หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think it is time to stop pretending they solve crime. they have a podcast when they feel like it and bumble around the crime scene for a while until the writers say we're done. the story with Helga makes no sense (crossing her pic out, leaving her pig with people so depraved they eat ham in the bathroom). I also still cant get over Cinda's massage person being named Helga. They also have a crime board on the new Matlock and when you zoom in it isnt full of fuckery.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I just need to stop investing in these clowns but I'm in too deep at this point 😭

    • @lisa-lisa-lisa
      @lisa-lisa-lisa หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kitkatz3859 my friend said, do you even enjoy it at this point and I was like im not even sure. it's like a skit about a murder on the carol Burnett show and it is not meant to be solved it's meant to be funny. but no one pinned that note to my door so here we are.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lisa-lisa-lisa that's kinda the perfect way to describe this, yes it's funny and yes it's intriguing sometimes but ultimately the priority doesn't seem to be making sense to solve

  • @psiloveyou1964
    @psiloveyou1964 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm watching this review before I was able to watch the episode. Is there a reason for why Lester's luggage trolley is in the apartment? This is the 3rd time were seeing that trolley this season.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@psiloveyou1964 they used it to transport the toilet ham for a game night! Could be a reference to something important later though, good catch!

    • @psiloveyou1964
      @psiloveyou1964 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@kitkatz3859oh, ok, thank you! I should've watched the episode, lol, before I took up your time to answer me.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@psiloveyou1964 absolutely not taking up my time lol I appreciate you being here!

  • @Nick-db1zp
    @Nick-db1zp หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree with your feelings about how they just throw things at us that we’ve already solved… it seems necessary but, is it?
    Scooby Doo was actually a great model for mysteries that I wish OMITB would use. We gather the information ourselves, nothing spoon fed, until the last possible moment when Velma explains how we should have solved it. That’s what we need here, less time spent telling us things we know and more clue-giving. Wait till the end to explain it.

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All I keep thinking about with this season is scooby doo in cyber chase with all the doubles lol but you're right, scooby doo was goated and omitb wishes it could be on that level 🫡

    • @Nick-db1zp
      @Nick-db1zp หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatz3859 “let’s play ball” 🔥🔥🔥

  • @tmtb80
    @tmtb80 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bummer about your Guardians⚾️😪
    When was Helga supposed to have moved away? That was such a young pig. Like baby baby pig. And the apartment didn't even have sheets or much of anything but did have sawhorses??? Why? I don't buy it. Who would leave a pig in a bathtub? What did it eat? Where did it potty? Pigs are very loud and can be very demanding and destructive? Why did she have a pig at all? Where does a locksmith get a pig in New York City?
    How did Howard have Charle's brother-in-law's cellphone number?
    Why is Loretta so wierd?
    What about Bev in the shed?
    Where were the rest of Sass's joints?
    What did Lucy find out when in the Arcatacombs?
    Who took pictures of Lucy & Charles?

    • @kitkatz3859
      @kitkatz3859  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When I read "why is Loretta so weird" I cackled LOL
      You raise very good questions, the Howard knowing Mike's number kinda killed me a little bit I'm not gonna lie, like how much plot convenience are we supposed to excuse at this point??