I had often heard of Tolstoy, but never read him. Now, I've discovered his stories on your channel and cannot get enough of them. He speaks in simple language with profound wisdom, and provokes introspection of ones own self in our complex world.
As someone who grew up on three continents and exposed to different religions, I often tell people your beliefs are limited to your geography. I find religion beautiful but always struggled with them due to the belief in the other. The other beliefs and believers are seen as alien and not the same. Though I still say my thanks and my own prayers to what I believe is an energy we are all part of, I’ve lost faith in people understanding anything about the teachings. Not all but majority. This was a great story and wish I had come across it before. I relate to it and like the Chinese man, I too sit quiet in the corners but saddened by the blindness. I forget which astronaut said it, but when he was on his return trip from the moon, he wondered out his gaze through the window and realized how we are all one. I think he or another astronaut said “They should have sent a poet and not me”
Yea religions are relevant to their culture, and to their time of emergence. They share elements of truth, but are often distorted by people, usually to influence or control the behavior of other people. Now we have the New Message and Steps to Knowledge, making spiritual development more directly accessible by anybody, of any faith or no faith. As it says, the only universal definition of spirituality, independent of culture, is our ability to See, Know and Act, what sets us apart from all the other critters.
@@wmanadeau7860 well said but not sure if I see myself above all the other critters, even at my most enlightened. If lucky and in the moment, maybe in some ways equal and I’ve had a few of those moments.
Extraordinary story that in a subtle ways gives a profound message to all of us. Only one flaw I find is, Hindu Scriptures of antiquity, describes the astronomy of the solar system as Sun centered planetary, and not Flat-Earth in the Center arrangement. The subject called Geography today, is called Bhoo-Goal in ancient Indo-European language-Sanskrit. Bhoo means earth and Goal means Round.
The book of Job makes a similar point, though later. People seem to disagree on when Job was written, it may be very old, but Hinduism is certainly older.
The book of Job makes a similar point, though later. People seem to disagree on when Job was written, it may be very old, but Hinduism is certainly older.
This TH-cam channel is a goldmine that I've just stumbled upon. I want to fall asleep to these videos from boredom but it's actually interesting that I stayed awake till the end. This is quite the conundrum for me
“Like several other of Tolstoy's works (i.e., The Port), this work is based on a French piece translated by Tolstoy, written by Jacques-Henri Bernardin de Saint-Pierre”
@@richardgrant418 thanks for this information. My perception was that somebody who has never been to India has such deep understanding of culture of the area. However my liking for Tolstoy spans over six decades and his greatness cannot diminish.
“The rays which stream through the shutter will no longer be remembered when the shutter is wholly removed.” Thoreau seems to have been on the same wavelength as Tolstoy in many ways. Whenever I encounter Tolstoy’s writing I am reminded that the mass of humans are like weeds and bushes while Tolstoy was a massive oak tree, But I try to be the best weed I can.
"If you would only look up at the heavens instead of the ground beneath your feet" summarizes the status of the world then and today. we are solipsistic in that we live in and through the stories we hear from our father and now from media. we never try to listen to others or look at the world beyond the borders of our tribe. this story or parable I should say is full of symbolism such as the sun and blindness.
Imagine writing this story, having it rewritten by Tolstoy 100 years later, and then another 100 years later a group of believers on the internet are now listening to a reading of it and doing exactly what the characters in the story are doing, except in the crappy comment section of TH-cam and not in a coffee shop. Oh boy.
Do you not get the irony of your position? You said elsewhere "no existing or extinct religion shares any element of truth". So on that basis you must believe without question that all religious beliefs are wrong which means, by de facto, your position can only be right. This is exactly the same position each character in the story takes - their world view is the correct one and other views are misguided and wrong. If anyone is mirroring the story in the comments its you and you dont even have the self awareness to realise it. Imagine judging and accusing others of behaving like characters in a story when you do it yourself. Oh boy.
God is that infinite All of which man knows himself to be a finite part. God alone exists truly. Man manifests Him in time, space and matter. - Leo Tolstoy
Leo Tolstoy was an advocate for the principles of the Baha'i Faith and this story demonstrates it's primary tenet -- that all religions point to the same God, that all Faiths are one and only vary in social teachings relative to the time and place in which they were revealed. We are one people inhabiting one planet and the purpose of our existence is to serve humankind. As Tolstoy says in this lovely story, it's the destiny of us all to unite under the umbrella of one common faith.
Wow way to miss the entire point so hard it’s incredible. Tolstoy absolutely did not support any religion. The whole point of his version of this story is that humans will forever argue over whatever they make up as an explanation for “why”.
Wrong. Seriously compare Islam with Buddhism and you will find they have almost nothing in common, and their differences are so enormous as to be very much opposed to each other.
Well, as AI goes, it was well read, the pauses and emphases well placed for a dramatic reading. Only the occasional startling mispronunciation was a give away.
I myself wish it were much worse; I’m not particularly happy with the way it is taking over hmm… human stuff. We’ll all realize this in less than a decade, when most of the jobs will be irrelevant, as AI would have replaced them all (almost).
one would never be able to Devine into what the ages will bring to the world without studying human nature . Because in Nature there is the unseen and spiritual aspects of life .There really no separation, and separation is a man made definition
Суратская кофейная. - Рассказ впервые опубликован в журнале «Северный вестник», 1893, № 1. Работа над ним относится к середине января 1887 года. Так, в письме к Черткову от 23 января Толстой писал: «Я перевел маленькую вещь… и пришлю вам ее на днях. Она выражает ту же мысль о том, что в разные веры веруем, а под одним богом ходим» (т. 86, с. 18). Рассказ является переложением одноименной новеллы французского писателя Жака Анри Бернардена де Сен-Пьера (1737-1814) «Le café de Surate», написанной в 1791 году.
Interesting, how did Tolstoy decide on the title with the city of Surat, Gujarat? Not as big as our other metro cities. Beautiful polished English accent with some minor flaws but overall great.
Surat at one point of time was a very rich city. It still is but earlier it was richer than any cities in Europe. Huge trade from Africa and middle East passed through Surat. Its merchants and Jagat Seths were the richest people of that time, probably in the whole world. Surat Seths also financed Dutch East India Company (VOC) and British East India Company (EIC). Therefore, for many in Europe it was a city where great fortunes could be made. This was true till the 18th century. From 19th century onwards, after EIC started controlling major regions of India, the past prosperity was destroyed.
The difference between Christianity and other religions is the fact that all those who claimed some revelation or another, they all died, Jesus also died but he also raised from the dead, it’s worth studying about him since his life , miracles and teachings are beyond compare, as a Christian I do challenge anybody to do it
Thank you for this very interesting introduction to the works of Tolstoy. The subject matter calls to mind the words of another brilliant man, which he uttered while making a speech at the Areopagus in Athens at 50 C.E.,. Having found common ground with his audience, that included both Epicurean and Stoic philosophers, by alluding to the words of the Cretan Poet Epimenides, and quoting from the astronomical poem Phaenomena, by the Stoic Poet Aratus, the Apostle Paul said, "...and he decreed the appointed times and set limits of where men would dwell, so they would seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact he is not far off from each one of us." Acts 17:16-34 Though some may argue that all religions are just different roads leading to the same place, did not Christ Jesus himself say there are in fact only "Two" roads? Two roads that lead to entirely different eventualities. Matthew 7:13,14
One way unto God I Timothy 2:5 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Christ proved his deity by resurrecting from the dead . Though someone says, he did not, tge historical book of the Bible has shown by external and internal evidence that Jesus is God and the son of God Colossians 2:1ff; John 5 18 Jhn 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. And so may passages that prove he rose from the dead Romans 1:2-4 Rom 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: There is only one true way, through Jesus!!
@@jacksparrow1057 Dear Jacksparrow; please forgive my not getting back to you sooner, but my wife and I have come down with Covid for the first time, and it is taking its toll. My DNA test did not show any Jewish connection, but I was surprised to learn that some of my roots were from branches of the human family I hadn't expected. I do agree with Christ Jesus's words, that salvation begins with the Jews.John 4:22 The harmony and candor of all the 66 books of the Bible support the fact that God used the Jewish nation to not only foretell the coming of the Christ, but to facilitate his arrival and ministry. If God was not directing the Israelite nation, what accounts for the advanced wisdom they had? When the Egyptians were still using human waste in their medicines, the Mosaic Law commanded that even an Israelite soilder was to dig a hole, and bury his crap. How many centuries later, were our European ancestors still throwing their waste into the streets? The Law commanded the washing of one's hands after touching a dead body, and this long before the discovery of germs, yet it wasn't till the 1870s our western doctors applied that wisdom. Amazing also, the accurate prophecies found in the Old testament, such as naming Cyrus the Persian two hundred years before his birth and how he would conquer Babylon. Isaiah 45:1-6 Not only was Cyrus impressed on seeing his name and deeds recorded in the sacred writings, but according to the Jewish historian Josephus, even Alexander the Great was convinced the prophecy in Daniel about a Greek King defeating the Persians was about him. Daniel 8:3-8,20,21 If all the prophecies Gid had recorded in the Bible have come true in the past, can we not assume all the other ones that have not yet been fulfilled, soon will be? Very soon, God will use the governments to destroy the empire of false religion, portrayed as Babylon the Great in Revelation chapters 17, 18. Not long after, God will feed the rulers of the world, along with all their supporters to the birds. Revelation 19:17, 18 Truly, if we are to find the cramped and narrow path that leads to everlasting life, we need to hurry and exert ourselves vigorously now while the door is still open. John 13:24 Wishing you and yours the very Best Jacksparrow
Based on the hands of subjects (which are usually a dead giveaway), it looks AI generated (just like the narrator’s ‘voice’). Platforms like Midjourney etc. are some ways to create such images.
Smart genius he was Sir Leo Tolstoy.... By the way, the "War and Peace" is mistranslated, the original name was intended to mean "War and Society". in Russian the original name was "Война и Мiр" not "Война и Мир". Difference between "мир" and "мiр" is мир means Peace, while мiр means Society of the world. FYI. Thank you for your video! t h a n k y o u
This story was written by Tolstoy 57 years before the Jewish nation was regathered as a nation, just as the Jewish man in the story said would happen based on Scripture.
“It is the duty of every Muslim to be good to his parents. If one of them, or both of them, are mushrikeen (polytheists) and they call him to associate partners with Allah, he is not to obey them, but he must treat them with kindness and live with them in this world.” (Sahih Muslim 2151)
"Narrow is the gate and cramped the road lesding to salvation, whereas broad and spacious is the road leading to destruction and many are the ones on it." Jesus Christ from the Bible
Great story, all about the variety of human beliefs about a supreme being, with the variety of religions that have branched out from versions of this search. Humans need a god, like a child holds a parent's hand as it learns to walk, to provide assurance and a sense of safety. God helps us until we believe we have the best, the only true belief. This leads to a sense of superiority, we even invent the idea, that "we were the chosen ones". Our imaginations, our illusion of religious have created thousands of years of conflict. I doubt a creator would have picked only one group of humans to favor, at the expense of another group also created by this creator.
the chinese women were not available, they were workiing the fields the moslem women, most of them are in hell, according to mohamed after he saw hell in his visit up there the jewish women were too busy making soup from palestinian bones the hindu women are lower caste, so not welcome to give their opinion the christian women, hmmmm. yes, their opinion could have been sought, yes.........
He said no temple is built to unite on one faith or one religion.. THIS is the msg of ISLAM . Only if people read understand and practice the way it really is
Meanwhile all Muslims keep arguing over the meanings in the Quran, the Hadiths, and the majority of Muslims can’t even actually read Arabic so they don’t even know what they’re arguing about.
Even when it was not an international age, truth and good would have been made known to be beyond himself and his people. Different perspectives of the same would have been available too.
Great moral yet a little too lengthy regarding the number of characters having their say. I prefer Siddhartha by Herman Hesse. For me the ending packed more punch. Could be due to my mind set at the time, though the 2nd reading years later still held meaning for me.
I am an anti-theist and believe that all religions are a curse on humanity. However, having listened to the tale and read the comments, it appears that some people are more concerned with the nature of the narrator than the content. Truth is truth, regardless of the origin. Here, are the proven movements of our Sun, but not the proven existence of any ‘god.’ Spiritual conviction, or ‘Faith,’ is not ‘Proof.’
is an english computer generated voice reading this? it must be because I have never heard the word, "intelligent" pronounced, "intel - eye - gent" before. can be heard at: 13:41.
''The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao (path)!''- Lao Tzu What of God or Gods and grand words? The problem of living beings is suffering and its cessation- so taught The Buddha when 2,500 years ago, he set the Wheel of the Dhamma in motion and revealed the fruit (phala) of his enlightenment and the path (magga) of attainment. Sila (ethical restraint), Samadhi (full concentration), and Pana (Path Wisdom) are the basics of the Nobel Eightfold Path, the Fourth, of the Four Noble Truths. ''May all beings be happy''. 🙏
The Coffee House of Surat is a short story written in the 19th century by the acclaimed Russian thinker Leo Tolstoy. It deals with the idea of religious assurity. This is done both directly and through an elaborate metaphor involving the sun that makes an appearance in the second half of the story. I'll explain this in more detail below An angry banished Persian theologian strikes up a heated debate in a local coffeehouse in Surat (hence the name) as to whether or not there is a god. Everyone presents opposing and vehemently clashing ideas. For example, the African slave worships a small idol made of wood from the fetish tree (that's actually a tree, I googled it ) where as the Brahmin, the Catholic, and the Jew all have their distinctly conflicting theories on God and the religion through which to communicate with him. They argue Everyone is shouting and arguing intensely in this heated argument, everyone except for a Chinaman, a student of Confucius who sat silently in the bar drinking his opium. When people asked him for his opinion, he delivered a long and convoluted metaphor involving the sun through which he shows all of them to be wrong. The metaphor is a story in itself and takes up the second half of the story. It goes something like this: There's a blind guy on an island called Sumatra. He's become blind from incessantly looking at the sun in a foolish attempt to discover what it is. Eventually, he's come to the conclusion that as the sun s neither solid, liquid or gas, it must not exist at all! As he's blind and cannot see its light he becomes further convinced of his own theory. His slave lights a small coconut lamp in the darkness of the hut and begins to move about. This sparks a conversation on the sun, which the blind man vehemently protests does not exist. A fisherman, an Indian, an Egyptian, and an Englishman all joined in the argument, providing their own theories behind the sun. You can already see the similarity between this metaphor and the real life instance in the coffee house. Eventually the pilot of a ship begins to speak, dropping enlightenment bombs on everyone. He's like, "You're all wrong! The sun shines everywhere, it's nothing to do with where you're from. The sun doesn't shine for you!". With this the Chinaman snaps out of his metaphor and concludes his argument. The Chinaman believes that, when it comes to faith, it is pride which causes emnities between people. Every nation or religion attempts to confine God to the walls of their temples. They all want a 'special' God for them selves. The Chinaman then puts forward the idea that the world is a temple, an undying tribute to the diversity and complexity of our creator. He says that, "The higher a man's conception of God ,the better he will know him and will emulate or imitate his goodness. Thus, don't judge anyone, don't criticize anyone's beliefs. If you're a true man of God you won't try to convert people, you'll accept them the way they are "There is not much symbolism or material for deconstruction in the piece ; themessage is quite simple and straightforward. The predominant themes are unity through diversity, and a sadly unusual open-mindedness when it comes to religion. The metaphor can be seen as Tolstoy's attempt to analyse the problem by stepping back and looking at the larger picture, one free from sentiments and other personal bias
Multiculturalism at its most contrived. And isn't it amazing that not one of the people in Surat or in Sumatra were Russian, yet they all spoke perfect Russian?
If there WAS a "God" he definitely would NOT "Love Mankind." He would have turned us all into 'Pillars Of Salt' to protect this paradise long ago. This Tolstoy short story is probably the single most important anti-religious, anti-Nationalist parable ever written, which is WHY no one has ever heard of it. He was a literary genius like no other.
Unless you are writing new science there is nothing you can say about the human heart that hasn't been eloquently expressed by the masters of literature. I read not for content...but for style. "How will the master say it this time?
LUCKY FELLOW - LEO TOLSTOY, LIVED IN EASY TIMES, THAT IS EASY TO PRODUCE LITERATURE, THIS MUCH PHILOSOPHY NOW A DAYS A SCHOOL BOY CAN WRITE... SUCH DIFFICULT TIMES, I MEAN DIFFICULT TO PRODUCE EXCEPTIONAL LITERATURE... FOR MUNDANE STUFF, WE HAVE AI...
This is often what people think of the past generations. The reality is that it was never simple or easy - every generation had their own challenges and complexities, which seem simple today, in hindsight.
You would not have enjoyed living before modern medicine. Tolstoy’s mother died when he was 2 and his father followed when he was 9. 5 of his children died in childhood.
simplistic - won't solve religious or non-religious disputes - the analog of the sun doesn't work - since most people would agree it's the same sun that shines over the world - almost no group owuld lay claim to it
That is the way westerns try to show ignorance of bharat. Showing some brahmin explaining the religion and astronomy. My question is very simple. Tolstoy is mentioned in this story. Now this must have happened almost 200 yrs before ( if at all this whole incident did happen). There are number of temples all over India which are atleast 500 yrs or may be older where they have depicted Navgrahas ( sun and planets). You will always find sun in the centre and earth and rest of the planets around it.That's not all, since ages aur priest when addressing Mars has used the term Bhumipitra mangal( meaning son of earth). And it is now that NASA has hypothised( though not proven but is hypothised that Mars and earth were together)that Mars may be the part separated from earth many many centuries ago. I am again emphasizing that this is one of the theory amongst many about coming into existence of Mars.
I had often heard of Tolstoy, but never read him. Now, I've discovered his stories on your channel and cannot get enough of them. He speaks in simple language with profound wisdom, and provokes introspection of ones own self in our complex world.
Exactly. He's the Sociologist,
Dostoevsky is the Psychologist.
🥸
As someone who grew up on three continents and exposed to different religions, I often tell people your beliefs are limited to your geography. I find religion beautiful but always struggled with them due to the belief in the other. The other beliefs and believers are seen as alien and not the same. Though I still say my thanks and my own prayers to what I believe is an energy we are all part of, I’ve lost faith in people understanding anything about the teachings. Not all but majority.
This was a great story and wish I had come across it before. I relate to it and like the Chinese man, I too sit quiet in the corners but saddened by the blindness. I forget which astronaut said it, but when he was on his return trip from the moon, he wondered out his gaze through the window and realized how we are all one. I think he or another astronaut said “They should have sent a poet and not me”
I like that. They should have sent a poet and not me...
Yea religions are relevant to their culture, and to their time of emergence. They share elements of truth, but are often distorted by people, usually to influence or control the behavior of other people. Now we have the New Message and Steps to Knowledge, making spiritual development more directly accessible by anybody, of any faith or no faith. As it says, the only universal definition of spirituality, independent of culture, is our ability to See, Know and Act, what sets us apart from all the other critters.
@@wmanadeau7860 well said but not sure if I see myself above all the other critters, even at my most enlightened. If lucky and in the moment, maybe in some ways equal and I’ve had a few of those moments.
"your beliefs are limited to your geography. "
the presence of 800,000,000 christians in north and south america would suggest otherwise.
@@AsifKhan-hf9zy Are you trying to prove my point!?
Extraordinary story that in a subtle ways gives a profound message to all of us. Only one flaw I find is, Hindu Scriptures of antiquity, describes the astronomy of the solar system as Sun centered planetary, and not Flat-Earth in the Center arrangement. The subject called Geography today, is called Bhoo-Goal in ancient Indo-European language-Sanskrit. Bhoo means earth and Goal means Round.
The book of Job makes a similar point, though later. People seem to disagree on when Job was written, it may be very old, but Hinduism is certainly older.
The book of Job makes a similar point, though later. People seem to disagree on when Job was written, it may be very old, but Hinduism is certainly older.
Thank you @ArunPotdarLeo. The world needs to learn more about the Hindu Scriptures
That is certainly interesting, but I dont see where that concludes to any flaw
So true . Probably more relevant for today than for the times it was written.
This TH-cam channel is a goldmine that I've just stumbled upon. I want to fall asleep to these videos from boredom but it's actually interesting that I stayed awake till the end. This is quite the conundrum for me
Only Tolstoy could write such a story. One of the greatest if not the only one.
Here is to period and comas ... just hang on to Tolstoy coat tail for dear life , click bait ....
“Like several other of Tolstoy's works (i.e., The Port), this work is based on a French piece translated by Tolstoy, written by Jacques-Henri Bernardin de Saint-Pierre”
@@richardgrant418 thanks for this information. My perception was that somebody who has never been to India has such deep understanding of culture of the area.
However my liking for Tolstoy spans over six decades and his greatness cannot diminish.
Uh...no.
“The rays which stream through the shutter will no longer be remembered when the shutter is wholly removed.” Thoreau seems to have been on the same wavelength as Tolstoy in many ways.
Whenever I encounter Tolstoy’s writing I am reminded that the mass of humans are like weeds and bushes while Tolstoy was a massive oak tree, But I try to be the best weed I can.
Weed all aspire to that.
@@davidpitchford6510 we wood be better off aspiring to be oaks.
A seed for thought.
@@SmithMrCorona Jesus had specialty for parables and moral teaching. So did Tolstoy. No big deal.
"If you would only look up at the heavens instead of the ground beneath your feet" summarizes the status of the world then and today. we are solipsistic in that we live in and through the stories we hear from our father and now from media. we never try to listen to others or look at the world beyond the borders of our tribe. this story or parable I should say is full of symbolism such as the sun and blindness.
If I ever visit Surat, I'll be sure to stop for a coffee.
😂
Imagine writing this story, having it rewritten by Tolstoy 100 years later, and then another 100 years later a group of believers on the internet are now listening to a reading of it and doing exactly what the characters in the story are doing, except in the crappy comment section of TH-cam and not in a coffee shop.
Oh boy.
Wonderful comment. So true.
Where you can get opium!
Right…with a little opium…(ahh but I wouldn’t be able to stop..). Snarks & sharks BE Gone! I need to hear these jewels.👣❤️🔥
And the reading is by a computer AI while everyone thinks it's a fellow human. Crazy times.
Do you not get the irony of your position? You said elsewhere "no existing or extinct religion shares any element of truth". So on that basis you must believe without question that all religious beliefs are wrong which means, by de facto, your position can only be right. This is exactly the same position each character in the story takes - their world view is the correct one and other views are misguided and wrong. If anyone is mirroring the story in the comments its you and you dont even have the self awareness to realise it.
Imagine judging and accusing others of behaving like characters in a story when you do it yourself.
Oh boy.
God is that infinite All of which man knows himself to be a finite part. God alone exists truly. Man manifests Him in time, space and matter.
- Leo Tolstoy
Leo Tolstoy was an advocate for the principles of the Baha'i Faith and this story demonstrates it's primary tenet -- that all religions point to the same God, that all Faiths are one and only vary in social teachings relative to the time and place in which they were revealed. We are one people inhabiting one planet and the purpose of our existence is to serve humankind. As Tolstoy says in this lovely story, it's the destiny of us all to unite under the umbrella of one common faith.
very true
Wow way to miss the entire point so hard it’s incredible.
Tolstoy absolutely did not support any religion. The whole point of his version of this story is that humans will forever argue over whatever they make up as an explanation for “why”.
Wrong. Seriously compare Islam with Buddhism and you will find they have almost nothing in common, and their differences are so enormous as to be very much opposed to each other.
Brilliant Tolstoy, the ability humble the arrogant.
Should contemporary relevance be a virtue, then this written reading is a Saint.
That fellow, Tolstoy, … he had a way with words ❤
But reality was and has been, Chinese man only said so…😂😂😂
Well, as AI goes, it was well read, the pauses and emphases well placed for a dramatic reading. Only the occasional startling mispronunciation was a give away.
I myself wish it were much worse; I’m not particularly happy with the way it is taking over hmm… human stuff. We’ll all realize this in less than a decade, when most of the jobs will be irrelevant, as AI would have replaced them all (almost).
I suppose from the mistakes this is an AI voice. Very impressive.
Is it AI? i wanna know pls
@@JavanaÑāṇayes
@@JavanaÑāṇai work with the producer of this video, the video is AI voiced and is not meant to be hiding that it is AI voiced.
@@artemisoreillyhahn3956 - Yes, impressive for AI -- except (and I'm guessing here) for hyphenated words.
@@JavanaÑāṇa Listen carefully.
How the word 'followers' is pronounced.....same with ''Israelites''.
Intelligent comes out as Intel-EYE gent.
Tolstoy was not just an author, he was clairvoyant
@@SmithMrCorona Why would I need to do that . However..part of its meaning can be” perceive events into the future “Not predict but perceive
one would never be able to Devine into what the ages will bring to the world without studying human nature . Because in Nature there is the unseen and spiritual aspects of life .There really no separation, and separation is a man made definition
Pleasant way to begin the Sabbath. Tolstoy, God's gift to millions.
Yahweh is wisdom itself.
I tried islam 22 years ago and still consider it the best step i took in all my life. I invite you to the REAL islam.
Суратская кофейная. - Рассказ впервые опубликован в журнале «Северный вестник», 1893, № 1. Работа над ним относится к середине января 1887 года. Так, в письме к Черткову от 23 января Толстой писал: «Я перевел маленькую вещь… и пришлю вам ее на днях. Она выражает ту же мысль о том, что в разные веры веруем, а под одним богом ходим» (т. 86, с. 18).
Рассказ является переложением одноименной новеллы французского писателя Жака Анри Бернардена де Сен-Пьера (1737-1814) «Le café de Surate», написанной в 1791 году.
Huh, I had no idea! I'll have to read more about this Bernadin person. Cool fact, Ailok!
Thank you for explaining.
I love the illustrative narrative
Interesting, how did Tolstoy decide on the title with the city of Surat, Gujarat? Not as big as our other metro cities. Beautiful polished English accent with some minor flaws but overall great.
Surat at one point of time was a very rich city. It still is but earlier it was richer than any cities in Europe.
Huge trade from Africa and middle East passed through Surat. Its merchants and Jagat Seths were the richest people of that time, probably in the whole world.
Surat Seths also financed Dutch East India Company (VOC) and British East India Company (EIC).
Therefore, for many in Europe it was a city where great fortunes could be made. This was true till the 18th century.
From 19th century onwards, after EIC started controlling major regions of India, the past prosperity was destroyed.
The difference between Christianity and other religions is the fact that all those who claimed some revelation or another, they all died, Jesus also died but he also raised from the dead, it’s worth studying about him since his life , miracles and teachings are beyond compare, as a Christian I do challenge anybody to do it
Thank you for this very interesting introduction to the works of Tolstoy.
The subject matter calls to mind the words of another brilliant man, which he uttered while making a speech at the Areopagus in Athens at 50 C.E.,.
Having found common ground with his audience, that included both Epicurean and Stoic philosophers, by alluding to the words of the Cretan Poet Epimenides, and quoting from the astronomical poem Phaenomena, by the Stoic Poet Aratus, the Apostle Paul said, "...and he decreed the appointed times and set limits of where men would dwell, so they would seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact he is not far off from each one of us." Acts 17:16-34
Though some may argue that all religions are just different roads leading to the same place, did not Christ Jesus himself say there are in fact only "Two" roads?
Two roads that lead to entirely different eventualities. Matthew 7:13,14
One way unto God I Timothy 2:5
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Christ proved his deity by resurrecting from the dead . Though someone says, he did not, tge historical book of the Bible has shown by external and internal evidence that Jesus is God and the son of God Colossians 2:1ff; John 5 18
Jhn 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. And so may passages that prove he rose from the dead Romans 1:2-4
Rom 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
There is only one true way, through Jesus!!
Ron are you Jewish?
@@jacksparrow1057 Dear Jacksparrow; please forgive my not getting back to you sooner, but my wife and I have come down with Covid for the first time, and it is taking its toll.
My DNA test did not show any Jewish connection, but I was surprised to learn that some of my roots were from branches of the human family I hadn't expected.
I do agree with Christ Jesus's words, that salvation begins with the Jews.John 4:22
The harmony and candor of all the 66 books of the Bible support the fact that God used the Jewish nation to not only foretell the coming of the Christ, but to facilitate his arrival and ministry.
If God was not directing the Israelite nation, what accounts for the advanced wisdom they had?
When the Egyptians were still using human waste in their medicines, the Mosaic Law commanded that even an Israelite soilder was to dig a hole, and bury his crap.
How many centuries later, were our European ancestors still throwing their waste into the streets?
The Law commanded the washing of one's hands after touching a dead body, and this long before the discovery of germs, yet it wasn't till the 1870s our western doctors applied that wisdom.
Amazing also, the accurate prophecies found in the Old testament, such as naming Cyrus the Persian two hundred years before his birth and how he would conquer Babylon. Isaiah 45:1-6
Not only was Cyrus impressed on seeing his name and deeds recorded in the sacred writings, but according to the Jewish historian Josephus, even Alexander the Great was convinced the prophecy in Daniel about a Greek King defeating the Persians was about him. Daniel 8:3-8,20,21
If all the prophecies Gid had recorded in the Bible have come true in the past, can we not assume all the other ones that have not yet been fulfilled, soon will be?
Very soon, God will use the governments to destroy the empire of false religion, portrayed as Babylon the Great in Revelation chapters 17, 18.
Not long after, God will feed the rulers of the world, along with all their supporters to the birds. Revelation 19:17, 18
Truly, if we are to find the cramped and narrow path that leads to everlasting life, we need to hurry and exert ourselves vigorously now while the door is still open. John 13:24
Wishing you and yours the very Best Jacksparrow
Narrow minded git
So good. Thank you. Everyone needs to hear this.
Listening to the story I could not take my eyes off the picture. It is so fitting. Can you reveal its source would love to get a copy.
Me too .. I'd like it framed.
Love it !
gee, if only there was an invention that laid at your fingertips that allowed you to find it on your own without troubling others.
Based on the hands of subjects (which are usually a dead giveaway), it looks AI generated (just like the narrator’s ‘voice’).
Platforms like Midjourney etc. are some ways to create such images.
i would with the producer of this video and can tell you with certainty that they were created by Midjourney AI.
Smart genius he was Sir Leo Tolstoy....
By the way, the "War and Peace" is mistranslated, the original name was intended to mean "War and Society". in Russian the original name was "Война и Мiр" not "Война и Мир".
Difference between "мир" and "мiр" is мир means Peace, while мiр means Society of the world.
FYI.
Thank you for your video!
t h a n k y o u
the voice is too much impressive ,very elegant
It's so cool that you don't feel driven to insert your own face on this video!! Kudos to you ❤ Thanks for beautiful reading
God said it best : For all have come short of the glory of God.
Excellent. Thank you for posting this. Most enjoyable
Even as a 70 year old Canadian, I'd love to go to the library or a book store to hear these stories being read. Lovely voice though...
Very good and an excellent presentation!
This story was written by Tolstoy 57 years before the Jewish nation was regathered as a nation, just as the Jewish man in the story said would happen based on Scripture.
How long were Arabs squatting on England’s land prior to this?
@@E_Clampus_Vitus The British mandate lasted form 1918-1948
@@gdsandkes8912 Mandate? Why sugarcoat it? Call it what it is..theft.
“It is the duty of every Muslim to be good to his parents. If one of them, or both of them, are mushrikeen (polytheists) and they call him to associate partners with Allah, he is not to obey them, but he must treat them with kindness and live with them in this world.” (Sahih Muslim 2151)
"Narrow is the gate and cramped the road lesding to salvation, whereas broad and spacious is the road leading to destruction and many are the ones on it." Jesus Christ from the Bible
Great story, all about the variety of human beliefs about a supreme being, with the variety of religions that have branched out from versions of this search. Humans need a god, like a child holds a parent's hand as it learns to walk, to provide assurance and a sense of safety. God helps us until we believe we have the best, the only true belief. This leads to a sense of superiority, we even invent the idea, that "we were the chosen ones". Our imaginations, our illusion of religious have created thousands of years of conflict. I doubt a creator would have picked only one group of humans to favor, at the expense of another group also created by this creator.
In other words You are the one who has the true belief. And You are superior to those who believe they are the chosen ones. Nice!
Interested in listing more such literature from you, thank you.
Thank you for translating the book
❤ loved it! Thank you for posting❤
Interesting, not a single women was asked to to take part is this great debate of Man, Uh, sorry God......
the chinese women were not available, they were workiing the fields
the moslem women, most of them are in hell, according to mohamed after he saw hell in his visit up there
the jewish women were too busy making soup from palestinian bones
the hindu women are lower caste, so not welcome to give their opinion
the christian women, hmmmm. yes, their opinion could have been sought, yes.........
Perhaps God cares no more for humans than for any other thing in creation.
I read this book. Very interesting stories.
Very enlightening. Thanks.
Very timely reminder. !!
He said no temple is built to unite on one faith or one religion.. THIS is the msg of ISLAM . Only if people read understand and practice the way it really is
Meanwhile all Muslims keep arguing over the meanings in the Quran, the Hadiths, and the majority of Muslims can’t even actually read Arabic so they don’t even know what they’re arguing about.
Even when it was not an international age, truth and good would have been made known to be beyond himself and his people.
Different perspectives of the same would have been available too.
So much talk of God and light and not one of them at the coffee house had a problem with slavery (including the author). Blind men, all.
Great story❤
Thanks for reading this story
Great moral yet a little too lengthy regarding the number of characters having their say. I prefer Siddhartha by Herman Hesse. For me the ending packed more punch. Could be due to my mind set at the time, though the 2nd reading years later still held meaning for me.
Hinduism IOWs Sanatan Dharma is as a a faith as as student of science, maths, quantum physics etc.
GREAT DIALECTICS!
Beautiful story
Yes, there were several mispronunciations. Could well be voiced by AI.
Gratitude.🙏👏👏🙏💕
I am an anti-theist and believe that all religions are a curse on humanity. However, having listened to the tale and read the comments, it appears that some people are more concerned with the nature of the narrator than the content.
Truth is truth, regardless of the origin.
Here, are the proven movements of our Sun, but not the proven existence of any ‘god.’
Spiritual conviction, or ‘Faith,’ is not ‘Proof.’
I am downloading this, because it is an AI voice and this was not disclosed in the description.
is an english computer generated voice reading this? it must be because I have never heard the word, "intelligent" pronounced, "intel - eye - gent" before. can be heard at: 13:41.
Wonderful reading 📚 👏
Beautiful picture!
Thanks.
thanks a lot for sharing.
This reminds me of when I started looking into “religion” I got all sorts of doctrines 😁
Yes several pronunciatios were wrong and i concluded the same thing. Scary.
''The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao (path)!''- Lao Tzu
What of God or Gods and grand words?
The problem of living beings is suffering and its cessation- so taught The Buddha when 2,500 years ago, he set the Wheel of the Dhamma in motion and revealed the fruit (phala) of his enlightenment and the path (magga) of attainment. Sila (ethical restraint), Samadhi (full concentration), and Pana (Path Wisdom) are the basics of the Nobel Eightfold Path, the Fourth, of the Four Noble Truths. ''May all beings be happy''. 🙏
Speakers Corner. How many Angels dance on the head of a pin? Does it matter?
All of who feel like dancing?
@@wmanadeau7860 Whatever Nadu.
It depends; If they're Waltzing about 12 pairs, but when they Pogo all bets are off.
@@Eris123451 😅
depends on whose pin?
pin from a human's stash of stationery items? none
pin used by God as stationery item? 100,000s could fit on that one easy
How beautiful ❤️
Excellent
There is some truth here, but light comes from the Son, not the Sun. Leo knew this before his days ended.
Bought a cup of opium....😮😊😊😊😊
beautifulle photo of the moors...the earth's emperors!
beautiful
Thank you
The Coffee House of Surat is a short story written in the 19th century by the acclaimed Russian thinker Leo Tolstoy. It deals with the idea of religious assurity. This is done both directly and through an elaborate metaphor involving the sun that makes an appearance in the second half of the story. I'll explain this in more detail below An angry banished Persian theologian strikes up a heated debate in a local coffeehouse in Surat (hence the name) as to whether or not there is a god. Everyone presents opposing and vehemently clashing ideas. For example, the African slave worships a small idol made of wood from the fetish tree (that's actually a tree, I googled it ) where as the Brahmin, the Catholic, and the Jew all have their distinctly conflicting theories on God and the religion through which to communicate with him. They argue Everyone is shouting and arguing intensely in this heated argument, everyone except for a Chinaman, a student of Confucius who sat silently in the bar drinking his opium. When people asked him for his opinion, he delivered a long and convoluted metaphor involving the sun through which he shows all of them to be wrong. The metaphor is a story in itself and takes up the second half of the story. It goes something like this: There's a blind guy on an island called Sumatra. He's become blind from incessantly looking at the sun in a foolish attempt to discover what it is. Eventually, he's come to the conclusion that as the sun s neither solid, liquid or gas, it must not exist at all! As he's blind and cannot see its light he becomes further convinced of his own theory. His slave lights a small coconut lamp in the darkness of the hut and begins to move about. This sparks a conversation on the sun, which the blind man vehemently protests does not exist. A fisherman, an Indian, an Egyptian, and an Englishman all joined in the argument, providing their own theories behind the sun. You can already see the similarity between this metaphor and the real life instance in the coffee house. Eventually the pilot of a ship begins to speak, dropping enlightenment bombs on everyone. He's like, "You're all wrong! The sun shines everywhere, it's nothing to do with where you're from. The sun doesn't shine for you!". With this the Chinaman snaps out of his metaphor and concludes his argument. The Chinaman believes that, when it comes to faith, it is pride which causes emnities between people. Every nation or religion attempts to confine God to the walls of their temples. They all want a 'special' God for them selves. The Chinaman then puts forward the idea that the world is a temple, an undying tribute to the diversity and complexity of our creator. He says that, "The higher a man's conception of God ,the better he will know him and will emulate or imitate his goodness. Thus, don't judge anyone, don't criticize anyone's beliefs. If you're a true man of God you won't try to convert people, you'll accept them the way they are "There is not much symbolism or material for deconstruction in the piece ; themessage is quite simple and straightforward. The predominant themes are unity through diversity, and a sadly unusual open-mindedness when it comes to religion. The metaphor can be seen as Tolstoy's attempt to analyse the problem by stepping back and looking at the larger picture, one free from sentiments and other personal bias
It's not possible to go insane from studying about Almighty God. If you are sincere as you study, Elijah will protect you.
Perfect narration
"Fa load him everywhere"
Word pronunciation is becoming more adventurous and artful in the age of ai.
What will it create next. Another Tower of Babel?
😅 😢 😮
I agree it must be AI scary but detectable well spotted
The far east religions and philosophies have the best PR.
Multiculturalism at its most contrived. And isn't it amazing that not one of the people in Surat or in Sumatra were Russian, yet they all spoke perfect Russian?
I very much dislike the artificial voice because it sounds so real
It reminds me of the old lady who swallowed a fly.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life ! Viva Cristo Rey !
How about Foll Owed instead of followed.
If there WAS a "God" he definitely would NOT "Love Mankind." He would have turned us all into 'Pillars Of Salt' to protect this paradise long ago. This Tolstoy short story is probably the single most important anti-religious, anti-Nationalist parable ever written, which is WHY no one has ever heard of it. He was a literary genius like no other.
Unless you are writing new science there is nothing you can say about the human heart that hasn't been eloquently expressed by the masters of literature.
I read not for content...but for style.
"How will the master say it this time?
LUCKY FELLOW - LEO TOLSTOY, LIVED IN EASY TIMES, THAT IS EASY TO PRODUCE LITERATURE, THIS MUCH PHILOSOPHY NOW A DAYS A SCHOOL BOY CAN WRITE... SUCH DIFFICULT TIMES, I MEAN DIFFICULT TO PRODUCE EXCEPTIONAL LITERATURE... FOR MUNDANE STUFF, WE HAVE AI...
This is often what people think of the past generations. The reality is that it was never simple or easy - every generation had their own challenges and complexities, which seem simple today, in hindsight.
You would not have enjoyed living before modern medicine. Tolstoy’s mother died when he was 2 and his father followed when he was 9. 5 of his children died in childhood.
You should hear it read by a human…so cool.
Background music name please?
The is realities?
Intel igent man !
Yahweh I.S. wisdom itself.
What AI voice was used?
Interesting discussion of God and religion; however, the comments on the mispronunciation of one word. Thank you for an "Interesting" 17 minutes.
simplistic - won't solve religious or non-religious disputes - the analog of the sun doesn't work - since most people would agree it's the same sun that shines over the world - almost no group owuld lay claim to it
14:50 as for the pride which is Ego is the foundation on which one lives in this Mahamaya iow Great delusion.
That is the way westerns try to show ignorance of bharat. Showing some brahmin explaining the religion and astronomy. My question is very simple. Tolstoy is mentioned in this story. Now this must have happened almost 200 yrs before ( if at all this whole incident did happen). There are number of temples all over India which are atleast 500 yrs or may be older where they have depicted Navgrahas ( sun and planets). You will always find sun in the centre and earth and rest of the planets around it.That's not all, since ages aur priest when addressing Mars has used the term Bhumipitra mangal( meaning son of earth). And it is now that NASA has hypothised( though not proven but is hypothised that Mars and earth were together)that Mars may be the part separated from earth many many centuries ago. I am again emphasizing that this is one of the theory amongst many about coming into existence of Mars.