Amazon vs. Alibaba: The Race to Dominate Fast Global Shipping | WSJ

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  • Chinese e-commerce company Alibaba is challenging Amazon by promising fast deliveries. From France to Japan, Alibaba’s goal is to deliver goods from China to anywhere in 72 hours. Can they successfully compete with Amazon?
    WSJ visits Alibaba’s largest automated warehouse to see how robots and a vast logistics network are helping it expand globally.
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    0:00 Alibaba’s global plans
    0:57 Alibaba’s warehouse and robots
    2:39 Amazon vs. Alibaba
    3:54 AliExpress
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  • @UrAshWhole
    @UrAshWhole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1616

    It's funny because the majority of Amazon's 3rd party sellers (FBA sellers) sourced their products from Alibaba.

    • @bugsy791
      @bugsy791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      They resell it at multiple times the price

    • @hipstajohnyy2033
      @hipstajohnyy2033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yes i do fba and alibaba stock is bought in bulk, is wholesale!

    • @jackytang3683
      @jackytang3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Air and sea freight forwarder in China, ddu,ddp

    • @nakanomiku7718
      @nakanomiku7718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @betsibest
      @betsibest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@verreal maybe you should stop wearing underwears as they are all made in china.

  • @KirkBuchanan
    @KirkBuchanan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +861

    72 hours shipping globally would be game changing. 🤞🏾

    • @Wongseifu548
      @Wongseifu548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Too bad this will never happen as long as they have a gun pressed to their heads

    • @oceanwave4502
      @oceanwave4502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Fun fact: Apple supply chain, which moved to Vietnam and India during the pandemic, is now returning to China. Relying on China is increasingly turning out to be a bless, rather than a risk.

    • @ArthursHD
      @ArthursHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yet speed is not everything!
      I would rather see slower but using fewer resources. If Could place an order from bulk and set what price I'm willing to pay for an Item till x date, or multiple items at a lower price. If could rather choose a sustainable shipping option I would do so. Unfortunately, we haven't built a uniform high capacity, efficient electric railway system all across Eurasia and Africa. That would be a pretty cool 100-year utopian plan :). No retail packaging, descriptions are on the websites anyway, no need for printed manuals if not requested for an extra cost. Reusable and actually reused for its primary purpose, lightweight, durable packaging could help reduce necessary shipping volume and weight. Products themselves should be sustainable.

    • @yeodi9466
      @yeodi9466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With Starship SpaceX could probably do that in about 2 hours. Around 30 minutes of flight and then delivery to your door.

    • @tushararora443
      @tushararora443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@oceanwave4502 source?

  • @ttw06090
    @ttw06090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    It's a great thing to have competitions in such sector

    • @pshindigamingmobilegamer2609
      @pshindigamingmobilegamer2609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AlexAlcyone agree

    • @pieman-yp7mp
      @pieman-yp7mp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@AlexAlcyone poor bezos is getting bullied by china

    • @iota5722
      @iota5722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlexAlcyone he will liquidate it over time.....as Alibaba reaches the potential he will invest that in his space company in the name of building it. Even bill did that to Microsoft.

    • @harshjain3122
      @harshjain3122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlexAlcyone honestly. People would like a monopoly in this sector. It's like induced monopoly. One good example is, wouldn't we all love all of our fab streams on same streaming service? Yeah exactly. Secondly, it's a fight between two private giants, one however...backed by it's host govt totally. So you should already know where this will go.

    • @iota5722
      @iota5722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexAlcyone bro thats not for me to decide, all ex nasa people work at space x.....for sure he will not be successful compared to space x in coming decade or two but all it takes is one Innovation and u will have it. He would have spent that money anyway he wanted and we will never be able to do anything about it. Lets be spectators and not the jury. Cause we are not at the end of the judgement.

  • @mattiauk
    @mattiauk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    In Greece it's pointless, the package gets in Greece in 1 week, then is in customs for months :(

    • @aakashsahani2991
      @aakashsahani2991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      -laughs- cries in Indian, they straight up banned Alibaba,customs holds off the imports from China from few weeks upto few years even if the item arrives within 24hrs(sadly,not a joke), sometimes they confesticate the item and if we realy need to take the item, there are duty fee that sometimes go upto 200-300% for some items.
      Small businesses got fricked with this dicc joke

    • @google_was_my_idea
      @google_was_my_idea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aakashsahani2991 Exactly, India is in the same boat, kuch order nahi kar sakte....

    • @samuraijosh1595
      @samuraijosh1595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@google_was_my_idea We first have to kick the current union government out.

    • @iota5722
      @iota5722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@samuraijosh1595 no chance of any govt bringing it back. Even if govt changes national security policies dont change.

    • @samuraijosh1595
      @samuraijosh1595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iota5722 I mean.... wasn't it the current government that placed huge restrictions on Chinese products and IPs during the start of the previous year...?

  • @TommyShlong
    @TommyShlong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    If Alibaba can offer 72 hr shipping for a small annual fee, remove counterfeit products from its site and offer free/low cost returns, that would crush Amazon

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Remove counterfeit items ?? You jest surely ?

    • @notarussianbot1701
      @notarussianbot1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@grahamstevenson1740 Even amazon is full of counterfeit items...

    • @RektalReptil
      @RektalReptil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it wouldn’t

    • @bennguyen2963
      @bennguyen2963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      people shop at amazon, not alibaba. not crushin in 1million years

    • @Kemet3.0
      @Kemet3.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now a year later... Alibaba: Revenue growth goes negative for the first time, and net profit halved.
      th-cam.com/video/56wsKigvfsg/w-d-xo.html

  • @beaclaricevalencia4793
    @beaclaricevalencia4793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It shouldn't be just how fast, should also be about the quality and authenticity guarantee of every product that they sell

    • @odysliu9102
      @odysliu9102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are 3 major eCommerce player in China. JD targets high quality and authentic guarantee market, PDD targets low quality but cheap market, Alibaba want to do both. So basically if ppl want high quality and accpet higher price, they go JD, they want low price they go PDD. For anything they don't know they go to Alibaba.

    • @leilawang3554
      @leilawang3554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I try to filter out the Chinese sellers on Amazon cuz I know their low enticing price usually comes with a catch. Nahh

  • @munza79
    @munza79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    The problem was never with the speed of shipping as most who ordered from alibaba were aware of the long wait. The issue is with the return and refund process which is close to impossible to ever get anywhere with. So if you receive a bad product from a dodgy seller (which you will) then your pretty much screwed. And that is where Amazon will have the advantage.

    • @boggsmalinao
      @boggsmalinao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      most people will overlook this at first…

    • @pinkcichlid
      @pinkcichlid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've reported product problems on both Amazon and Aliexpress, 100% refunded within very short time frames, none asked me to return the items. I don't think it's a problem as long as your claims are legit and can provide evidence of malfunctions etc.

    • @the_real_cookiez
      @the_real_cookiez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mmmm.....no it's most definitely the speed of shipping lol.

    • @user-sn9od2cy4v
      @user-sn9od2cy4v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can apply for a refund without returning the product. But the speed of the delivery is the biggest issue for me. Waiting for weeks or even months after paying for a product is not very satisfying experience.

  • @mosarila8927
    @mosarila8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    the products from Amazon Canada are mostly from alibaba …

    • @gamertyper6476
      @gamertyper6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everything in the US is from China, big companies and brands just buy in bulk and have it waiting here for us. Walmart, target, your local stores most of the time, etc.

  • @sov19871987
    @sov19871987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    Can't wait to fill out my garage with useless stuff faster

  • @benho1237
    @benho1237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Amazon is the middle man, they also have direct connections to factories in China too, as you can clearly see what profits Amazon is making, and that's one of the reasons how Jeff could go to space....

    • @AzeemMia
      @AzeemMia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats all market money

    • @TougeGrandTour
      @TougeGrandTour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Amazon makes most of their money from cloud computing. Around 70% of their revenue is from cloud. Retail is a small part of their business and the margins are razor thin.

    • @TougeGrandTour
      @TougeGrandTour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AzeemMia You are correct, the company valuation (stock) is overly inflated right now. I call it fluff money.

    • @IllusiveDude
      @IllusiveDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      AWS make up most of Amazons revenue and retail makes up a small portion of their bottom line

    • @enixliu
      @enixliu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You should read Amazon’s 10k before making your comment here.

  • @user-qi9wz6iu9x
    @user-qi9wz6iu9x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    As long as alibaba can reach the Chinese factory and merchant directly, it may be difficult for Amazon to defeat in terms of price war.

    • @azeezosho9459
      @azeezosho9459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Some android phones are much better and cheaper Altman Apple phones, yet Apple is still holding their own in the market. Most of the time, people just do what they want and love

    • @user-qi9wz6iu9x
      @user-qi9wz6iu9x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azeezosho9459 Correct. It’s also important that each company focuses on the loyalty and branding in the marketing.

    • @liko098
      @liko098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you saw the very end the most important thing for a consumer is getting what you want in time. Last thing you want is a counterfeit item. I sometimes spend just a little more to get the product I am seeking for. Amazon has been great customer service is amazing to me that is a huge win overall. Sometimes its all about quality and customer service over pricing. I will spend a little more for just that.

    • @mikez2779
      @mikez2779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      with or without alibaba, amazon is far from being the cheapest

  • @Cubannerd
    @Cubannerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Amazon doesn't make most of the money through their ecommerce anymore. Their AWS services are probably what is bringing in the big bucks.

    • @mwaleed2082
      @mwaleed2082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alibaba is offering its own cloud services as well now.

    • @VFPn96kQT
      @VFPn96kQT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Amazon earns 50+% from store and only 12.5% from cloud

    • @forumvoordemocratie1940
      @forumvoordemocratie1940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VFPn96kQT But look at the profits. Cloud is already biggest profit maker.

    • @IAmPattycakes
      @IAmPattycakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VFPn96kQT revenue and profits are two very different things. Last year Amazon lost money on their retail business. 100% of their profit was from AWS.

  • @zifnab7691
    @zifnab7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    From europe, alibaba seems to be only slightly cheaper than amazon but since stuff comes from outside of europe, we have to pay import tax which makes the products more expensive than on amazon in the end.

    • @tonypaca3015
      @tonypaca3015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind hard they need to control inflation

    • @jasmina.8473
      @jasmina.8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't agree! Amazon is always 2-3 times more expensive. But it is a seller using dropshipping so you get the same product in the end. Amazon is only better for returns, but that is the reason why a 3 dollar pack of sewing needles from aliexpress cost 9 dollars on Amazon - greetings from Germany

  • @gangyang9801
    @gangyang9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Most express delivery in China can cover 960 square kilometers within 24 hours, which is equivalent to the size of a Europe. And they work 7x24 hours and have a terrifying cold chain system. In China, you can buy an ice cream over 2000km away and get it in 24 hours.

  • @Surya-jz6te
    @Surya-jz6te 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Here in India, Amazon has dominated the e commerce industry taking over home grown companies like Flipkart and Snapdeal. 13 USD per year prime membership for one-day deliveries and other perks, so can't complain.

    • @encrypt3dbr0k3r
      @encrypt3dbr0k3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      also prime video make some very nice films. I enjoy the many stories

    • @Claro1993
      @Claro1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      On the flipside, Alibaba takes over the Philippines and Southeast Asia under its subsidiary, Lazada.

    • @monsterboomer8051
      @monsterboomer8051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would you like Alibaba competing to lower prices?

    • @younib100
      @younib100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't Wallmart purchase Flipkart to increase their online footprint and compete with Amazon??

    • @TheFourthWinchester
      @TheFourthWinchester 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Flipkart is way better with original items from its own selling arms compared to Amazon.

  • @wric01
    @wric01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Different market, in most of the world alibaba dominates with low price thus expect no returns and lowest price. Amazon service and return policy alone destroys alibaba in the west.

    • @mmrgratitudes
      @mmrgratitudes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

    • @Clarity520
      @Clarity520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's fair.

    • @z.6398
      @z.6398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazon steals from sellers and encourages fraudulence under the name of customer centric.

  • @bryantmissions4664
    @bryantmissions4664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    It takes a month for packages from Aliexpress to reach the Philippines.

    • @ZaneT531
      @ZaneT531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They don't concentrate on third world countries.. It's fact not disrespecting ur country

    • @arbs3ry
      @arbs3ry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      South East Asia is not the target market of Aliexpress, Alibaba put more focus on Lazada and localization.

    • @waffelo4681
      @waffelo4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In Southeast Asia its more about Lazada or shoppee lol

    • @penguinpingu3807
      @penguinpingu3807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@waffelo4681 shoppee largest downside is the cringy ads.

    • @backyardaviator2920
      @backyardaviator2920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats Why Lazada & Shoppee exists here at the first place,since they could take Aliexpress' Place without being a Hassle to most of its customers here(Who happensthat most of them doesnt even use Credit Cards to buy stuff here at the first place),also These Sites ships pretty fast from its longest delivery time of 1 week to its shortest one which could only take 48hours from the Time of Order

  • @personalJoke
    @personalJoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me, the extremely step shipping cost has been always the issue in the first place. Then, the quantity of the products.

  • @marcusd4936
    @marcusd4936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Imagine drones flying all over your city

    • @edithjarvisfriday
      @edithjarvisfriday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In a few years, those drones will be built with no noises and flying around fast just like birds. It will be so cool and convenient.

    • @Srankillerttt
      @Srankillerttt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edithjarvisfriday It would be worst than that

  • @Amalokch
    @Amalokch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What about the new custom fee you have to pay for good imported outside of EU?

    • @HongWanSophia
      @HongWanSophia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aliexpress now includes the tax on the products when you pay. So when it gets to customs, it doesn't get stopped since you already paid for it on Aliexpress. Before it would take a package 2-3 months to get from china to Portugal, but this time, I ordered on the 26th of July and I received it today. Not even 2 weeks!!

  • @_nom_
    @_nom_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I'd love this. It takes 1.5-2 months usually

    • @prashanthb6521
      @prashanthb6521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One day you will lose your job to a robot and you will wait 1.5-2 months for your next gig job !

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prashanthb6521 *years

    • @lalapt127
      @lalapt127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prashanthb6521 nah these are nuts & bolts machines. when real actuators which can compete with humans arrive ,china will become irrelevant. in the mean time invest in basic & hard tech reasearch .

    • @Clarity520
      @Clarity520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@prashanthb6521 Humans are destined to evolve. This is only a part of the process.

  • @12vtbfx37
    @12vtbfx37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    It is a fact that 90% of Amazon's goods comes from Alibaba

  • @fineway7053
    @fineway7053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The China question isn't how many boxes Alibaba ships, but which box Jack Ma is hiding in.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's playing golf in Hainan and lying low. Good for him. No more 996 and spending some of his yuan.

    • @most.likely
      @most.likely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Commumism is the virus 🦠

  • @JohnNjengaCOCO
    @JohnNjengaCOCO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    a good number of goods on Amazon originally came from Aliexpress to stores in Europe or USA

    • @yaush_
      @yaush_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd prefer to order on Amazon though for many reasons. Including but not limited to: the item being genuine, faster delivery, free delivery, top notch support, being able to use alexa, reviews, and an incredible return experience.

    • @sidehop
      @sidehop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yaush_ genuine? Same products at 3x-4x the cost to cover expenses...

    • @NetSkillNavigator
      @NetSkillNavigator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yaush_ Genuine? Lol.. How naive you are.. Even that so-called genuine products you buy are still bought and made from Chinese manufacturers..

  • @godblessCL
    @godblessCL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    What is certain is that Aliexpress must improve shipping time and reliability, even provide options at least.

  • @nihonarchive
    @nihonarchive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To watch this video i had to go through alibaba's ads😂😂

  • @bananabear009
    @bananabear009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The heart of the problem is counterfeit products. I just received 6 counterfeit bike chains from Aliexpress. And the price is very high, no matter how cheap the shipment is.

  • @kazansky22
    @kazansky22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only everything sold on Alibaba wasn't a scam.

  • @johnnyk6906
    @johnnyk6906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    72 hours or 72 days? from my experiences, one out of 10 never arrive and there is absolutely no customer service to work with. I am staying with Amazon since they can resolve all issues ASAP such as returns.

  • @prashunpcchakraborty70
    @prashunpcchakraborty70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazon can't win the price game but if it can improve it's vetting (only recommend high quality products and no fakes) then it's still game on.

  • @kitezopo2593
    @kitezopo2593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not merely about between two tech e-commerce giants. But the retailers are affected as well.

  • @penguindevil
    @penguindevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clicked on video and saw Aliexpress advertisement with Maksim Galkin 😄 I thought my adblocker was malfunctioning 🤣

  • @darthashpie3370
    @darthashpie3370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazon prime is pretty good in India since it also gives you access to amazon's other paid services like amazon music and video

    • @arora6547
      @arora6547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @LaMelo Ball hahahaahh true

    • @darthashpie3370
      @darthashpie3370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LaMelo Ball still good that you have it

  • @investinglearningmachine3951
    @investinglearningmachine3951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not just alibaba, but also JD

  • @davidgbf
    @davidgbf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the logistics industry!!! ✈

  • @sergiubarac1265
    @sergiubarac1265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Greece, if you order from Alibaba - you would have to pay the import taxes, therefore Amazon is usually a better choice (as long as the product is in the EU already).

  • @victoriancu7358
    @victoriancu7358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    90% of people in the USA don't even know what alibaba or aliexpress is.

    • @juliananoreus6810
      @juliananoreus6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They do now because of TikTok it how a lot of small businesses buys from.

    • @juliananoreus6810
      @juliananoreus6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they got some good wigs. 😭😭😭

    • @sidehop
      @sidehop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's changing quickly...

    • @sko1beer
      @sko1beer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A lot of fish keepers and people in the gardening hobby know it’s where the stuff all comes from anyway why give a cut to the middleman?

    • @acidbot6681
      @acidbot6681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Pretty much expected.
      Most don't even know the earth is round!

  • @PG-tc6os
    @PG-tc6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Everything looks great until the Chinese government stop the music 😂😂😂

    • @PG-tc6os
      @PG-tc6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @renkar820 yes. You got the real point. 👊👊👊 I rather keep my stocks with Amazon.

    • @PG-tc6os
      @PG-tc6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @renkar820 hahaha I heard that too. 😂😂👊

    • @PG-tc6os
      @PG-tc6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @renkar820 that is a good movie. Btw, as long as the stock goes up, it is all that matter to me

    • @PG-tc6os
      @PG-tc6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @renkar820 oh yeah!! It was done by CNBC great documentary.

    • @yeetian2774
      @yeetian2774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Another victim of western propaganda

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Customs clearance from one month to a few minutes, wow...game changer

  • @zagfat
    @zagfat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Aliexpress now available in the UK?

  • @SomewhereInRussia
    @SomewhereInRussia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    О! Галкин на Wall Street Journal! :-)

  • @dbxlbruh
    @dbxlbruh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem of the counterfeit in China is that there is no concept of counterfeit.

    • @LetsLearnEconomic
      @LetsLearnEconomic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joe Bidens infrastructure plan is a copy of Chinas

  • @cometome8194
    @cometome8194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting this well made contents.

  • @kelbhinbrahma2649
    @kelbhinbrahma2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally, I thought I was seeing Ali Baba ad in the beginning.

  • @michauxburn
    @michauxburn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    07/19/2021 - Amazon: "Our terms have changed. Any dispute or claim relating in any way to your use of any Amazon Service will be adjudicated in the state or Federal courts in King County, Washington, and you consent to exclusive jurisdiction and venue in these courts. We each waive any right to a jury trial."

  • @jperez494
    @jperez494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I am so happy to buy alibaba stocks just this week =)

  • @jonnybegoodtonight
    @jonnybegoodtonight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    USPS is the weak link in the chain. When goods from Alibaba arrive in the US the postal service slaps another label with a different tracking number over the top of the original one. When you are trying to track several packets its a total nightmare.

  • @no1ycxie
    @no1ycxie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am working for JD logistics who started to build its own logistic network at similar time when amazon tried to do the same thing in China. Amazon failed in China. JD logistics just listed in Hong Kong this year. we have warehouses with robots working there. JD logistics is famous for its speedy delivery. If you place you orders before noon, you can receive your parcels the same day, especially if you lived in big cities.

  • @Mr11ESSE111
    @Mr11ESSE111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That doesn't mean nothing especially in EU when EU now taxed and charge cost of local post shipping from China more then most of package will worth !!so if you buy something for 1-10$ post&custom in EU will charge you more then your order worth

    • @melonheaded
      @melonheaded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all EU countries are the same. In Italy, you will get custom tax only if you spend over 150 euro.

    • @Mr11ESSE111
      @Mr11ESSE111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melonheaded now EU get regulations where every member must have tax no matter how worth are package which coming outside of EU

  • @Xenon-4300
    @Xenon-4300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder what working for Alibaba is like compared to Amazon.

  • @RedNeckSurgeyTech
    @RedNeckSurgeyTech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've ordered from them. It always takes 4-16 weeks to get my package. The packages have all been in good shape and what I ordered worked fine. But it takes forever to get to you

    • @AlvinC-sz3li
      @AlvinC-sz3li 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on where you live, what you ordered, and sometimes when you ordered. Sometimes they need to send items in batch to reduce the cost. You are unlucky if your item is the first few ones in the batch. I have ordered several times, some comes 2 months after shipped, some only 2 weeks.

  • @brianm3160
    @brianm3160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got an Alibaba ad immediately before this video

  • @mikeyoung9810
    @mikeyoung9810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The last mile will be solved via robots if they can solve the problem of people not being home for the delivery and awkward size packages. Amazon has a serious problem now with faulty deliveries made by people who are more worried about speed than accuracy.

    • @snoopybro1512
      @snoopybro1512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too many variables to automate last mile shipping. Sounds simple in concept. But once you delve into the details and the various circumstances that can be encountered approaching different homes, you realize a robot can’t do it. You would have to individualize each robots route. As each one would encounter different roads, homes, apartments, and there various styles, driveways, sidewalks, etc.
      The most difficult being apartments, condominiums etc. Because these never follow an easy ground plan. They vary wildly.
      Then you would have to account for difficult weather. Rain, snow, heat, ice, wind etc. a machine in a factory or wear-house doesn’t have to worry about this. Now that it’s outside on a daily route, it has to account for it. Maintenance would also be comparably high for its usage and route difficulty.
      Then you would also have to take into account theft. How easy would it be to intercept and rob your machine?
      Once you really think about it. Automating last mile shipping is very difficult. And probably not worth the trouble

  • @bl5752
    @bl5752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The CO2 emissions from this are just going to be horrendous. So much for even pretending we're doing something.

    • @thelastpetrolbender2744
      @thelastpetrolbender2744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luckily, China is also the country that invested most in the green mobility and green energy

  • @fooziewoozie
    @fooziewoozie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine knowing you’ll be seen in a video by Wall Street Journal, but you see yourself like this. 5:05

  • @katel3962
    @katel3962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My hobby is jigsaw puzzles. Many European companies don't ship to the US, and won't sell via Amazon. BUT they do sell via AliExpress. The AliExpress orders show up within two to six weeks, which is fine for me. Just happy to get my hands on these coveted European puzzles. 😁

  • @mmrgratitudes
    @mmrgratitudes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yeah... it will be interesting to see how Alibaba executes their plans. Amazon is customer obsessed - that's their whole ethos. I pay for Prime because I have full confidence in Amazon's policies and how they treat their customers. I just don't see the same thing with Alibaba. A lot of things from China are not just inexpensive, they're "cheap". Their goods are cheap, their service is cheap, etc. There's more to selling than just cutting prices. We will see...

    • @AlvinC-sz3li
      @AlvinC-sz3li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You want cheap price but not cheap quality? This is business not charity. Every single penny you pay matters.

    • @UPdan
      @UPdan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazon is more expensive than other online retailers. Sometimes it's 10-20 perfect. I think it's a rip-off.

    • @KatariaGujjar
      @KatariaGujjar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You forget that most of the world's products are manufactured in China, and because they don't have copyrights, these products are learned, reverse engineered, and made into high quality, cheap cost Chinese origin products. In this way, Chinese manufacturers and brands are surpassing foreign brands who simply cannot compete on price. I've witnessed this myself as a user of lighting technologies; the Chinese brands were cheaper in quality 10 years ago but with the western brands manufactured in China being reverse engineered, the Chinese quality has improved significantly while still retaining that low price. The future for western products is quite grim.

  • @ryansmithc
    @ryansmithc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this an ad?

  • @xenaz8988
    @xenaz8988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    user experience in Alibaba is much much better, you can talk with sellers at any time concerning your purchasing. love it! it's more like a community rather than cold buy and sells.

    • @adityasingh3963
      @adityasingh3963 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You haven't used Amazon if you think user experience in Alibaba is much better. Amazon's costumer service is so good that they will take loses but not disappoint any of their costumer. Once I bought a non-returnable item from Amazon but the colour was slightly off from the picture on Amazon so I tried returning it but since it was non-returnable, they refunded all the money to my bank account but didn't take the product and I got to keep it for free. That's the kind of service Amazon provides even for the non-returnable products.

  • @Darkness-fw4gi
    @Darkness-fw4gi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be good if they have a company delivery on each country to avoid change of items. I'm thinking twice when buying mystery box. 😁

  • @ubaid.muzaffar.official
    @ubaid.muzaffar.official 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We welcome 🤗 from the 5th Largest County Pakistan to Both Companies...

    • @akshatshukla
      @akshatshukla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol have u even got money to buy Internet pack.... 🤣 🤣 🤣... Leave alone phones...

    • @nykkchandan
      @nykkchandan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@akshatshukla Boom Mic Drop.

    • @nostalgiaalert6873
      @nostalgiaalert6873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@akshatshukla Lol

    • @abdulaziz-kt5ih
      @abdulaziz-kt5ih 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@akshatshukla Daraz is doing pretty good here in Pakistan but doesn't have much competition hopefully Amazon will come to Pakistan which will be very beneficial for the customers

    • @pcp3457
      @pcp3457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boom boom Blast 💣💣💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @StewsChannel
    @StewsChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Lol, I'd be cool with ordering from Alibaba. My Amazon orders take one to two weeks to get here anyway (and that's with prime!)

    • @b.r.c9156
      @b.r.c9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you live on the 🌙

  • @flamingogaming7797
    @flamingogaming7797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    72hrs delivery with 72 week replacement

  • @sureshpeshawaria347
    @sureshpeshawaria347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good...this competition will be beneficial for the customers in the end...

  • @anthomore4269
    @anthomore4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    😑I ordered a item from China and the fastest cost me quite a bit and arrived around 2 weeks🙄, the normal shipment was estimated over a month.

  • @DanielWilliamsGeorge
    @DanielWilliamsGeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I prefer AliExpress to Amazon. But in India, AliExpress is banned and thats sad news

    • @gj1234567899999
      @gj1234567899999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s good that AliExpress is banned in India because China is literally stealing I Dian land and killing Indian soldiers. Why would India want to help China?

    • @The1Ab0veAll
      @The1Ab0veAll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gj1234567899999 Yeah, good thing they banned it.

    • @polystyleshaping8919
      @polystyleshaping8919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      India is too poor for them to notice anyways

    • @iammaobaoxian9308
      @iammaobaoxian9308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indians think they care, but they dont actually. There are so many countries out there

    • @iammaobaoxian9308
      @iammaobaoxian9308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@walterwhite3653 thats because india is overpopulated and poor. The government is corrupted and dumb. Even your underwear is made in China, how can you ban them? indians need to realise this

  • @axelf4515
    @axelf4515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Romania post office be like : three days until Romania customs, 3 weeks in customs and lets add a few more days to be sure.

  • @Elyon074
    @Elyon074 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! 1:56

  • @dp622
    @dp622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And what will I buy from Ali? 2 GB Pen-drive inside 1 Tb Hard-disk !!!

  • @onm7
    @onm7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    From 1st July 2021, the EU has introduced a fee for goods entering from China, of about 25 euro or so (30USD), hence this is impacting a lot on AliExpress deliveries. It's not worth anymore to buy from Europe to AliBaba given this high fee. In fact, most people were using AliExpress to buy items for few dollars with no shipping costs. Now that cannot be the case anymore.

    • @reneecheung6818
      @reneecheung6818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, on what ground? Is that just temporary or like permanent?

    • @user-qk8rt9yf9v
      @user-qk8rt9yf9v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a lie. The EU just imposed a Value Added Tax (VAT) on goods bought from E-Commerce entering the EU. For small items under $22 Euro, this does not apply. The VAT is like a sales tax but it is applied every step of the way then summed up. For example, there is a factory smelting iron, VAT is applied to the cost of energy, then the iron, then the tools. It isn't a flat fee like what was stated above.

  • @ayoubguezguez4354
    @ayoubguezguez4354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG, i got an alibaba add before the video XD

  • @joseibarra8193
    @joseibarra8193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last mile is where work horse comes in 😈

  • @jasonlucas2328
    @jasonlucas2328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can Alibaba offer a refund if goods are held at the custom? The answer is no! Also, in the past, when there were quality issues, I needed to deal with the factory in China. Furthermore, if I needed a refund from the seller, the experience was very unpleasant. Alibaba is no more than a shell company!

    • @yeetian2774
      @yeetian2774 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two first names? Hello, anti-China 🤖

  • @nardo7687
    @nardo7687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    this is nice and good but didnt the EU introduce a new law where u have to pay up to 10EU tax when ordering from China.

    • @kimjongun5073
      @kimjongun5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You almost always need to pay around 20% of the total product+shipment price in EU for tax when it’s shipped from non-EU counties

    • @Apocalymon
      @Apocalymon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eww

    • @nardo7687
      @nardo7687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kimjongun5073 I didn’t have to when ordering from ali just one time payment

    • @kimjongun5073
      @kimjongun5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nardo7687 I’ve rarely ordered from AliExpress. But most of my non-EU eBay and Amazon shipments have been taxed

    • @kimjongun5073
      @kimjongun5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nardo7687 idk why you don’t have to. Maybe because the price of your product is below the bar (40 euro or something, cannot remember

  • @marioarcega4935
    @marioarcega4935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can they say in 72 hours will be delivered, I am a customer for almost three years in Ali express most of the time frame delivery was two weeks from China to Canada. Sometimes if you unlucky the parcel was lost in shipment, It happen many times. If China Ali express or Alibaba want to compete in Amazon its take a decade before they can say can be delivered for 72 hours.

  • @johnburns2510
    @johnburns2510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good luck with Alibaba Returns

  • @facts-ns7zt
    @facts-ns7zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Indian Government should not have banned Alibaba and other Chinese companies and its taking a toll on the Economy at the same time the general population doesn't have any other alternative

    • @axcelblack2808
      @axcelblack2808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ccp bot

    • @facts-ns7zt
      @facts-ns7zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@axcelblack2808 no im not im from India just because you are speaking against your government doesn't mean you're anti national im stating facts Indians rely on cheap products

  • @aquagerk3646
    @aquagerk3646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If they can pull it off then bye bye amazon considering almost all of products in amazon were bought from alibaba

    • @wds3222
      @wds3222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shipping isnt even the biggest issue here. The issue here is the return.

    • @blackdeath4u
      @blackdeath4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wds3222 the majority of amazon returns go in the garbage. I've had to return things to aliexpress, they usually say "keep it, we'll send you the right one"

    • @wds3222
      @wds3222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackdeath4u Doesnt mean is that in most cases. Sometimes the return costs more than the item itself.

    • @KA-vs7nl
      @KA-vs7nl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazon was focused on American products in the beginning anyways, might be a good pivot

    • @aquagerk3646
      @aquagerk3646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wds3222 Alibaba can solve the return problem by setting up some facilities here in the USA or partner with some retail here.

  • @sheezy2526
    @sheezy2526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah right, by the time something from Alibaba arrives, I usually forget I even placed that order

  • @the_rubbish_bin
    @the_rubbish_bin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's one way around paying sale tax as Ebay and Amazon started enforcing sales tax in FL

  • @jan_phd
    @jan_phd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I insist they both deliver my packages within 5 minutes... that's waiting long enough!

    • @AneudiD78
      @AneudiD78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forget 5 minutes, instant delivery with Stargate technology. The technology becomes open source so any company can have it. Then why stop at that with instant traveling to your destination.

  • @seankim2743
    @seankim2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In a small country, or a small, busy city (like Seoul or Hong Kong for example), "fast delivery" is understandable.
    But in a continental, or global scale? I question - WHY?

    • @sophisticatedthumb5364
      @sophisticatedthumb5364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      what are you stupid it improves economic efficiency for everyone and everyone deserves convenience not just city dwellers

    • @hanhai8515
      @hanhai8515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sophisticatedthumb5364 I think he meant to ask how 🤔

    • @seankim2743
      @seankim2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sophisticatedthumb5364 well for the sake of economic efficiency and universal convenience, we all end up paying for them by either global scale pollution or added cost whether by capital or human resources.

    • @ShivamVerma-uc5cy
      @ShivamVerma-uc5cy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seankim2743 For sake economic efficiency and universal convenience, we take metros or car to reach another location and not walk there even if it contributes to pollution and capital. If this applies to humans why not goods? Utility will increase by improving efficiency

    • @oceanwave4502
      @oceanwave4502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you look at the world map, you see why China got the idea of BRI. Similar ideas can never happen with South Korea (a small country, both people and territory) or Japan (an Island country).

  • @TheUser808
    @TheUser808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem is a lot of consumers outside of China are wary of the merchants on Alibaba. If they can promise customers peace of mind by doing a high level of QA, then Amazon will be in trouble.

  • @vitaliyfursov2011
    @vitaliyfursov2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you buy Counterfit - you get REWARDED with SAVINGS.

  • @tango_oscar
    @tango_oscar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is straight up the plot of WALL-E

  • @Lululemon2023
    @Lululemon2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just hope Alibaba will take the competitions Fed Ex and the likes soon. They are charging exorbitant prices for too long.

  • @hippopole9657
    @hippopole9657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Competition is necessary but it is to be healthy , helpful and satisfactory to the consumers .

  • @TheSecurityAgency
    @TheSecurityAgency 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds nice, still for the EU it takes exactly the same 4 weeks like 2 years ago. One has an option though to pay for a more expensive express delivery and and on top custom taxes.
    What you're talking about here sound like a commercial to get investor's money.

  • @mariacheebandidos7183
    @mariacheebandidos7183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    sometimes it feels like people don't even do any research before they make these comparisons.

  • @AhmedMalik814
    @AhmedMalik814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Awesome video. Very informative. Simple to. Understand and engaging.
    Keep making in e-commerce.

  • @LaowaiDaveJCP
    @LaowaiDaveJCP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i clicked this video and ALIBABA promotion popped up😂

  • @platin2148
    @platin2148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they also make that possible with the new regulations in Europe to import great for them. Aliexpress has also the problem of bad descriptions and weird ways to select options.

  • @profanity961
    @profanity961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    There you go fellas...dropshipping might finally take it's last breath or "be dead" as some people (losers) say.

    • @nanomia
      @nanomia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The opposite actually

  • @johnnyonthespot4375
    @johnnyonthespot4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    its interesting how every time the narrator refers to removing humans from the
    equation its "improving" and "More efficient" -
    I get it - humans aren't robots but these robots do not buy their products either (well......yet)

  • @roxaskinghearts
    @roxaskinghearts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah drones will probably end up being the last legs and the best part is a easy pully system kinda like your garage door can be installed or a box in your back yard can be the target

  • @cstanford8046
    @cstanford8046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My AliExpress package delivery presently averages 14 days from the day of order.

  • @AbuSous2000PR
    @AbuSous2000PR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i love it when companies compete like this.. keep it going guys

    • @jonathanschwartz4794
      @jonathanschwartz4794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bruh its better if there were 4 or 6 companies like this but 2 is better than one

  • @stevenl4543
    @stevenl4543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Anything positive to boost the BABA stock...because recently it has been a "sheesh"

    • @pedroramosvasquez1631
      @pedroramosvasquez1631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Monish Pabrai, Ray Dalio, and Charlie Munger are bullish on BABA. It's all about patience.

  • @sololife9403
    @sololife9403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the Tax between countries could be a big problem since it's related to policies that could change constantly

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That matter is currently receiving very close attention. Expect a significant statement soon. Ebay(UK) is already adding UK VAT on goods shipped from China.

  • @mystictraveler8642
    @mystictraveler8642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. But. Not surprised. I had a feeling this was coming.