Attempting to BOOST my Liege to EMPEROR in Crusader Kings 3
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- Can i Boost my Liege from Duke to Emperor in Crusader Kings 3 while staying as a vassal?
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How do you get that shield COA style for dynasty and your realm?
My favorite move, because running an empire is too hard for me personally, is building an empire with one strong Kingdom and then purposely allowing a family member to depose me and take over as emperor and then I just play a loyal vassal while running my own kingdom
Better even to lose that empire to someone outside your family, as then you don't just get the 2 renown for them being emperor, but the X renown for every vassal of your dynasty he has. Aswell as not losing dynasty head to him.
Learn how to distribute titles in a way that if rebellion occurs you lock up most of the nation/micro distribute your vassals vassals to ensure they have too much strife to ever revolt against you.
I also find it more fun as you never really know what your liege might do, adds a whole new layer to the fun!
Ill never understand why people are afraid of being emperor.
@@TheKillaShowgame is bare easy if you slow down and think through the shit you do. Reckon folk just hit buttons and don't plan.
Trying to keep your liege's dynasty in power and keeping the kingdom cohesive is such an under appreciated personal goal in ck3. Their should be an achievement for being a loyal vassal - like support and win three liege wars at once or something.
King of Wales: I became Emperor of Britannia by doing absolutely nothing!
What a good life!
El emperador de Britania= Por que tengo que esforzarme yo, si mi vasallo estrella lo hace todo por mí?
You should play Tall Sardinia in 867 as a Papal Vassal, and grand him as many Theocratic Vassals you can... make His Holyness the Pope the Emperor of the Holier Roman Empire!
I'm waiting for the theocracy DLC, what's the point if you can't vote in your shitty nephews for free money and claims like the lords of old did.
Holier romaner empirer*
Honestly love this idea!! Probably will end up doing this Thankyou!!
let me raise you make the pope roman emperor for the memes
I saw someone restore Rome and made the Pope the Emporer
Yes definitely keep going. Back seat driving a European conquest is such an odd challenge. Should be lots of fun
Some tips. To see how large a realm is you only have to put your mouse in the shield of the person or in the map. To avoid your liege granting you vassals grant the duchy of the granted vassal to him, because your liege tried granting you those vassals because you were the rightful liege of them.
Thankyou so much, especially that first one I had no idea!
Try and from something with even crazier requirements, like get your Liege to become chakravarti or the Mongol emperor or hold the North Sea empire. You’d have to really closely manage someone else’s inheritance.
Honestly good idea!! All of those would be nice but im still yet to get the chakravati so might give that a go!
@@SnapStrategy I just got chakravarti yesterday the normal way. You’re in for a challenge dude. Lol.
@@Hehe.3. Yeah I’ve put it off long enough 😂
Me being emperor is usually by mistake.
For example:
Inherit a nice duchy.
Some guy wants to Mary my 40 year old mom.
Sure why not.
2 generations later I'm the basilious of the Byzantine empire.
Everything proceeds to catch on fire.
I need some of that luck! The people I marry off end up dead in a siege lmao
I really enjoyed watching this because your commentary is amusing and the speed of your actions accurately reflects the spirit of the medieval age: "Act now because I might be dead tomorrow." Most medieval rulers were young, male and impetuous.
Thankyou! I appreciate it a lot!!
You want something really challenging? As a vassal, just try to keep a Mongol successor state alive for a century. I tried with the Ilkhanate after I got conquered by Genghis Khan. I REALLY TRIED! And I failed after seven decades. It is hard to make these survive.
Honestly sounds like a lot of chaotic fun, will have a go Thankyou!
So the reason he didn't create any kingdom titles is because the game mechanics make it so that if you have a title equal to or greater than him (like the kingdom of Ireland while hes also JUST a king and not emperor) you will become independent, so he cant give you a kingdom title without becoming a emperor first or else you would be independent (this is why normandy flips to England every time William conquers it) he also may have didn't create it because he would have had to hold it himself directly because of the game mechanics i just explained. Keeping it himself would cause a lot of negative modifiers and there's a high chance of loosing the title due to inheritance and whoever inherited that title would automatically become independent also unless it was the same person who inherited the main title he originally had as well.(for example if he has 2 sons, 1 would get whales and the other gets Ireland, unless he had only 1 son to inherit both titles or had the proper succession law to prevent loss or splitting of titles) . You don't have to give away kingdom titles FIRST in order to form an empire. Form it first, then give titles. I know this game mechanic is true because it happened to me in several games and i couldn't figure out why for the longest time until finally i did. Thought it was a good idea to share. I know almost everything about paradox game mechanics. Especially ck3.
lmaoo ur liege was like don't pass ur trouble over to me u keep them 😂
ik he was probably doing it cuz u held the dutchie title its self but that was funny though 😂
Honestly never had my liege so determined to give me vassals lmao
@SnapStrategy it's because you held the dutchie but it was really funny tho I couldn't stop laughing 😂
"Mayors, they don't really count" I see what you did there...
One thing I learned for counting counties is if you hover over a coat of arms the game can give you the total of any character. I believe you can hover over your liege or fellow vassals as well
I have tried so many times as a Greek duke to make my leige the Emperor of a reunified Rome, but inevitably get screwed over within 5 months.
Tip if you want to give your liege counties: Grant the county to an old ass dude (60+ usually does the trick) without children and grant him independence. This will make him your liege's vassal instead of yours and when he dies your liege will inherit the land. This way you could "grant" your liege the entirety of wales like you wanted :)
(Edit: just tested it in wales just to confirm it for myself and it does work. Also should try to make sure that the dude you grant it to is not educated in intrigue or learning since these have fertility perks, naturally lustful and fecund are risky aswell. But for the most part 60+ mf's are pretty infertile)
Oh genius!! Thankyou, I use this my self to temporarily give land away but never considered doing it for this!
I’ll give this another ago forming a harder empire in the future so this will be useful, Thankyou!
"Mayors don't really Count"
I know you didn't do it on purpose, but it made me laugh anyways
If you have land that you want to give to your liege, you can grant it to someone and then grant that vassal to your liege (assuming you don’t hold the duchy title of that land).
On the rulers window hower over the primary title icon (the big one on the left) and the tooltip shows the realmsize.
Thankyou! Don’t know how I missed that for so long haha
I did this as a vassal of the Pope once. It was fun.
Your King being 'The Smelly' after such a long and very impressive challenge is hilarious.
I’d love to see you continue this or do the same thing for a different empire, it’s like your liege was your puppet XD
Yeah I think I might try it with some harder empire for sure!
Nice work on the 80k subs, hope you'll have something special for the 100k!
Thanks blue! Honestly might have to come up with some good ideas and make a poll if we ever get there!!
I always wanted to do this, just didn't remember every time I'd start a new game.
I’ve never tried this playstyle before; I’m definitely gonna have to give it a go!
8:09 I'm kind of his only vassal that matters, the rest are mayors, which mayors, they don't really COUNT. BADUMTISS.
By far, my favourite games have been when I've played loyal vassals. I played a Finland game where our liege was utterly incompetent and we were being attacked by 3 or 4 people at once because of it. I had to deal with those forces personally every single time, either by joining the war or intercepting as a neutral force. Eventually I was elected as King against my will.
34:20 Pay attention to that guy, he's going to be big in France in Roads to power, methinks.
I find it’s fun to play as Sardinia and , as a vassal to the pope, form a true Holy Roman Empire.
TIP: If you hover mouse over the rulers flag (be they liege or other) it will pop-up how big their realm size is.
I usually play as a vassal and try to expand my lieges realm to an empire, so knowing this can be extremely helpful when calculating how much more you need to 'obtain' for them! Don't forget to subtract any land them have outside of De Jure borders though (forming Germania and HRE is a pain for this).
Really good vid, can you play the new lord of the ring update and revive kingdom of moria ?
Thanks for the heads up! I’ll check it out
Your liege probably didn't want to declare war on Deheubarth because he's craven.
wow its fr one of the best challenges you ever did in my opinion
This was what I was looking for. I think it would be fun to just be a loyal vassal.
Wouldn’t be the first time a Welshman had relations with English noble women
Am playing cr2 for the first time having fun cuz of u bro thank u for introducing me to this amazing series
Idk if anyone told you this, so sorry if you know by now, but while you are a vassal, granting your vassals independence gives them to your liege. Also ur liege kept spamming you because you were holding the dutchy titles for the vassals he tried giving you! Im a sucker for playing as a vassal, fun to see someone else actually do it too!
Yesss finally new video
You should have way more subscribers. Your content is top notch. Though, I don't know is CK3 enough "mainstream" or do you upload videos often enough.
Anyway, I will watch and follow with pleasure and with gratefulness.
Thankyou! Yeah ck3 isn’t massive! But I had a pretty inconsistent end to year so that’s on me for sure!!
This was really refreshing to see now reclaim Rome as a Byzantine vassal
Looks like you were owning the duchy title that's why he is keep on trying to give that vassal
Definitely should have been playing tall and giving your liege vassals from the get go, it would have made him stronger faster. A perfect example is when you conquered Munster. Give your liege the Munster vassal, then give your liege the Munster duchy title which the liege gives to the Munster vassal so that you not only give your liege a vassal but one who likes him.
Also that’s why your liege kept trying to give you vassals, you held the dejure duchies which you should have given him. Also giving a vassal a dukedom while a Duke does not masked them independent of your liege just you, like a realm splitting upon inheritance.
Good plan! I think I’ll give this another go with some more difficult plan, but this time more focused in making my liege the powerful one more so than me!
I love this kind of videos and I missed them
Thanks! Yeah I was considering change but ended up missing making them haha
You should do a kushite (kemetic) reconquest of Egypt as Egyptian culture! Or Anglo Saxon reconquest after William takes over!
That worked out quite well. Should be useful in RP playthroughs!
I spent 200 years from 867 trying to make one of the karling become Emperor so I could form Switzerland but for some reason this is the only time they refused to.
Before legacy of Persia it was extremely painful to make AI form the HRE, now it's easier since they modified the decision and make the ai more active to do so
someone finally pronounced Gwynedd correctly
He's welsh, I'd expect him to pronounce it correctly
@@BritishRepublicsn oh really? I didnt know that
Wow what an interesting idea! Great vid 👍
I love sending my kids to the varangian guard as a test to see if they're worthy, same with giving them land after they get the first or second courtier trait thingy. (valued intrigue courtier or the likes)
Amazing! I loved this concept
Thankyou!
Of course there is a way to grant the land in wales to your liege, you make vassals and then grant them to him
I just did this with the pope, really fun :) also the empire title is interesting
Good idea! I think I might give it a go with the pope at some point!
Love the content man keep it up!
Thankyou!
Plz continue with this😭🙏🏽
The amount of shit happening because waring in 5 speed is hillarious, forgot how fun your gameplays are, filled with lovely fuck ups we all do while forgetting ourself on 5 loool
That's kind of an insane play XD
Make more videos they are awesome. A lot of love❤
Thankyou!!
I love to build up 5 or 6 kingdom titles, then create and split to independent heirs. See what they do.
Please do a part 2 if the video is popular enough
Shwmae bud, I'm playing as Gwynedd and was about to form the kingdom of Wales, then my king died and suddenly my realm broke up.
I'm a noob at the game and I know us Welsh used to fight ourselves a lot but how do I stop my family members from declaring independence when my current character dies?
Easiest way is to disinherit your other children before you die, so it forces all your land to go to 1 person
Could also add succession laws to any Dutchy titles and vote for your primary heir in each election to keep your land together.
But if they do declare war just marry quickly for a powerful ally and siege the war leaders capital, this often gets you +30 war score so you can white peace!
@@SnapStrategy Diolch! I will disinherit, sounds like the easiest way!
I tryed this while being a powerfull vassal of the holy roman empire...
Sadly their system is kinda scuffed and made me the emporor bcause they all wanted me and didnt allow me to stay the faithfull servant...
I would LOVE if you just KeptPushing the liege's family higher and higher... Just keep the great lands of britania expanding and prospering.
Try and do this with the Papacy. 😂
Currently showing this to my vassals
I didn't know teutonic order exist in ck3, is it possible to play as it, can you do it?
with the new wandering nobles DLC you can fight in a mercenary band possibly or even make one that’s not for sure though we’ll have to see
garibaldi actually did similar challange irl!
First time I see the Teutonic Order. Wtf
all of Europe would be awesome
Chronicle Writing does not give multiple claims in a single war, that is one of your mods
Oh damn! That makes more sense, ill have to try and work out what’s doing that
i have never seen the teutonic order, how does it occur? Mods?
love your Videos can you do a video where Ireland takes over The British Empire
Which mods did you use in this video?
What mod adds the tuetonic order
I think it’s from the historical invasions mod
I woul love to see you conquer Europe.
I like the idea but it seems quite tedious
What is better cataphracts or monaspa ?
Why do you exceed your domain limit?
I'll try this challenge myself tho
How do you get that shield COA style for dynasty and your realm?
I think it’s from the patrum scuta mod
@@SnapStrategy yeah it is, thanks snap!
Oh But where too you from en ? its deffo a carms / swansea area from the lingo see.
When we can expect first live
Yma o hyd! 🏴
this was awesome
What about the rise of the ghurid series :/
What mod is this?
Woah I have never seen a Jihad for something other than Jerusalem maybe there’s been an Ismaili vs Almohadi Jihad I’ve seen and I don’t even know if that’s possible. Definitely a Muslim on Muslim Jihad.
Conquer Europe. Yes please
Liege into Roman Emperor
I support anything Welsh
more plz!
Continue this
Europe as a vassal
Ur liege was craven. How well this playstyle works out and how often they go to war or create titles depends heavily on your liege's personality. Not to mention Gold and Prestige. This playstyle is theoretically possible but its not easy and I imagine takes patience
Take Europe!
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i will never watch u agin becasuse u took ireland
Atleast i took it for the welsh rather than the english
Nothing personal to the creator but I hate it when the video interrupts my array of ads