This sounds absolutely spectacular! Just fantastically awesome. If it would have turned out even half as wicked as it sounds it would have been a blood soaked epic. Its a tragedy no one had the brains or balls to produce it.
Michael Cairns oh it will, you cannot stop technology from changing and evolving. No matter what THEY will have to conform to the times just as they had to with Netflix.
@@capitalizingcapitalist1202 it's not the technological aspect that's the problem. It the Hollywood. They don't have the vision like the people who made the trailer. I love the idea they have! Maybe Netflix could make🤞
I was amazed by this when I first heard about it and followed it's production on facebook. I got the kickstarter artbook by Paul Gerrard and have a print from it on my wall too ;) Unfortunately they announced the 'official' remake by Clive Barker the day before the pitch was due to be launched, a remake that never materialised, so I can't help but think that they announced it purely to scupper the pitch. Couldn't agree with you more - they definitely need to do something like this to breath some new life into it.
Dimension films who was going to produce it demanded it to be "Teen Friendly" to capture a new audience lmao. So naturally everyone bailed. Now it's HBO that will make a series so i'm curious to see a trailer dropping at some point.
MoonBeamLaser Animation is just as expensive sometimes even more. More staff is involved with animation, it takes a lot more time to create and complete an animated movie and time is money.
To be completely honest, this would make an incredible gaming experience. I would absolutely invest in this if the right people were involved. Geiger, Barker, and a studio well established in this type of horror. Maybe a souls style... Best if it's unforgiving. Cenobite creation and evolution could be amazing as well. Perhaps one of Pinheads war party as the main character.
If this were to become cannon, then we as fans would have to assume that the Pinhead we come to know is more like the one from Hellraiser 3, where he is part Elliot Spencer and part dark entity or "a living embodiment of Spencer's ID". I actually like that, IF that is the case, as it gives Hellraiser 3 some more value. However if that is not the case then all the other Hellraisers have to be wiped from Cannon as we are lead to believe that Elliot Spencer is Pinhead and no Elliot Spencer no Pinhead. Where as Origins would suggest Pinhead was around before Elliot Spencer opened the box. As I stated on another post the timelines with Hellraiser movies don't always work. They suggest that Pinhead (from Elliot Spencer opening the box) appears and all of sudden he is top dog in hell and has a bunch of followers and even Angelique (who seems to be more of a dark entity with a human host) that has been around long before Spencer opened the box follows Pinhead. I think the Origins movie, from what you have told us, would add a great deal to the Hellraiser story (from the movie perspective) and tie the other movie (especially first 4) into the series rather well. It would just give everything more cohesiveness.
To me, origins suggested that the 'post' of pinhead may have been held by numerous entities throughout time, and that Elliot Spencer was simply the most recent incarnation. I quite like the idea of that because it gives the cenobites as an order an ancient history,
It would make sense considering that Cenobites don't remember their human lives. Could be that the "entity" known as Pinhead chose Elliot as a host, and all of the powers and reputation came with it.
I've been informed elsewhere that this is 'typical' CB approach ie. not confined 100% to previously established canon. Worst case scenario? JJ Abrams......!
I’d be SOFA KING chuffed to see a movie like this, especially if today’s visual effects technology were brought to it. It would be the Cronenberg ”The Fly” to the original “The Fly.” I always knew the Hellraiser mythos could be far more fantastical and epic than it was in the original movies: those fell because they dwelled too much in the humanosphere. I know the central philosophy of the series was to illustrate humans as truly monstrous, and the “monsters” cast as something more noble - a very Barkerian theme - but the humanocentric ethic of the films just led us into another hack-and-slashfest.
Origins fell because there is no "humanosphere." The Hellraiser serie fell to very bad writings and extremely low budgets. The Cenobites are twisted perv flesh carvers. Midian is where you get that Monsters are good and humans are bad feeling. But not in Hell. Actually, Cenobites are totally dehumanised. It's a bit lame to just see the monsters as better than humans. And it's been done to death ever since. And it is Not a typical Barker trait.
This is epic! What a shame they haven't made this into a movie. I agree with Mr H, this is the ultimate reboot and I believe it would open a labyrinth that needs to be explored in more grisly detail
They should have you do the audio novel of it!! Your voice is up there with the greats like Vincent Price, Micheal Cain, Sean Connery. You are just way to pretty to let any one see you though! lol
Can you imagine how insanely good this would be with an art director like Tarsem Singh (The Cell/Immortals) behind it? Each scene would be gorgeous and it's own allegory yet equally horrifying but not over the top in a campy way. I'd love to see that. It'd probably stick with me for 15+ years just like the first time J-Lo went into his DreamWorld and witnessed his trophy rooms 😳
I remember watching the pitch video for the first time and getting all tingly, still does it to me. Thanks for the video Mr. H. I look forward to more on this from you.
I can totally see this being made with the budget of the first Scorpion King movie, or maybe one of the less crappy sequels. The treatment is insane in a good way.
I don't think we have a chance in hell of getting a Hellraiser movie with a $60 million budget. They would have to break well over $100 million to get in the green. As much as I love Hellraiser, I don't see them making a big investment like that.
Really such a pity that it would've been great ! Really wanted to see, thanks as always I love how you depict it in simple clear words that makes the story more enjoyable
OMG OMG OMG I wish they would make this movie! It seems like a combination of Scarlet Gospels and some of the best associated side stories. This would have been fantastic, though Pinhead looking for his family is a little weird.
This is great but it misses the point. The fun of Hellraiser is that most of the mystery is implied. You don't know what Leviathan is but you can guess. You don't know what a Cenobite does but you can tell that you won't like that you'll eventually like it if you become one, and how your paradigm would have to shift to make that happen. This is cool mythology stuff but it's a tabletop game, not a Hellraiser reboot. Hellraiser movies are intimate, individual, and close enough to be carnal.
It would be one hell of a way to breathe new life in. I love the origins idea. Even love that the lead is still referred to as pinhead, especially since Barker himself has shown in his works that the form/look of pinhead is transferable to whoever takes the mantle. Too bad we'll have to be satisfied with what we have.
This sadly reminds me of the Del Toro Mountains of Madness film. Its just too expensive to make. But I feel that movies like this NEED to be made. It could change horror films entirely, and bring us a renaissance of new highly expensive, high quality films.
Man they should make this movie it shouldn't make a Hellraiser reboot to be like this yeah I better that Hellraiser Origins teaser it's really as far as I kind of like to see that happen
I think this would be an amazing concept for the up coming TV show. But the only thing I would change is the reveal. I'd have the main Priest character unnamed/unrevealed until the last episode of the 1st series where we find out he is/transformed into Pinhead.
The idea of this just sounds like it would've been so damn interesting. I enjoy stories about fictional gods, demons, and even hell. Just add your voice as a narrator, and bam! We got a new Hellraiser movie. You remind me of myself. Well, your voice does that is. We both have very deep voices, but you have the cool accent to go with it.
This sounds fucking awesome, except I don't know how they could do it without basically going for an R rated Lord of The Rings format. Edit: wait... steal God's fire... engineers... NOOOOOOO!!!
Dude this sounds so freaking awesome, I have been waiting for Hellraiser too be done right and give us some back story into Leviathan, Pinhead and so on. I'm listening to your video Mr. H and dude hearing you gave me chillz, I so wish I had the money to make this movie into a reality. Good work as always !
I like it a lot. Its the same sort of in-genre shift that happened between Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick. It would be a bastard to script though, let alone get filmed.
i want to see a hellraiser movie, where the cenobites just go along their everyday lives. washing their blody clothes, going to work, doing their taxes, being good parents...
Out of all of the classic horror franchises, Hellraiser is the most tragic to me. There's so much potential with this story, but instead hollywood opts to basically keep doing the same thing.
If there was ANY title I was wanting in addition to the first and second movies (also, Bloodlines) it was Origins. Why did they scuttle what appeared to be the most intriguing Hellraiser movie ever?
I've just discovered a game called Tormentum (3 years late, admittedly) & the creatures/landscapes story would fit right in with this. The art is incredible! PS. Can we have you say 'order of the gash' before the year's end? You say it so...beautifully that I grin like the idiot I am
The cenobites didn’t have family because they are void of emotion. Their human counterparts had families but the process of making them cenobites meant they were no longer tethered to their human existence. Pinhead by definition wouldn’t care if his wife and daughter were taken unless he was in his human form or growing weak (which is uncharacteristic). As a matter of fact when he was face to face with his daughter Joey in Hellraiser lll, this is exactly how it played out. In the Scarlet Gospels book The Hell Priest (Pinhead’s true name) is as a powerful ruthless mid level demon that was looking to level up and was killing true practitioners of magic to steal it and become even more powerful. Using his power he murdered his way through hell to get to Lucifer in his quest for power. This deviates from Barker’s vision for this character. The story is actually superior to this one and broken up into two or three movies would be epic.
Not only expensive, but a little low concept. It's hard to bring that much new information to an audience in under two hours. Studios are already wary of the concept because of the BDSM aspect, adding magic and other aspects overcomplicates it for them.
Im so pissed this may never happen now. Like it reminds me so much of two of my favorite game franchises of all time “Doom” and “Silent Hill) that I instantly started to liking it knowing that it’d take place in Hell. Like i see the way Hell being set up would be really similar to the one in Doom with the look and inhabitants of Silent Hill. Seems something really different, but also a good one unlike most that would actually make good enough sense to the classic Hellraiser movies.
It kills me that everything after 3 really felt like a different movie, it wasn't so focused and it was always 'out of it's own way' in a sense .. It just felt like any movie with occasional cenobites but we never knew anything about them other than they were in the movie .. I think Clive has a masterful way of forming our imaginations into worlds of pleasure and pain. It's actually deeply frustrating that we're seeing the 'third' Halloween 2 but we're not getting an origin story that actually looks interesting. I mean right up until 'What is your pleasure sir?' it makes sense. History repeats itself .. But, I'm not happy with all these fucking remakes shitting on the reputation of the original. It underplays movies that have come before and it guarantees sheer predictable monotony from any prequels, sequels in addition to these new 'remakes' or 'reboots'. I mean this has serious potential, it would gain a whole new audience in this day and age .. Hell, it could even expand further and fix the franchise from a very sporadic endeavor to a much more consistent one. Maybe it could even go further into cenobites of the first movie, I mean chatterer was cool as fuck.
Honestly, I love the setting and the aesthetics, but not the plot or narrative concept. Sounds more like a war movie with BDSM window dressing. And there's very little to characterize the cenobites to the point where we're familiar with them. I kinda hate the idea that the cenobites are trapped *inside* the box rather than it being a doorway of sorts to their dimension imho. Making Pinhead a sympathetic protagonist with a family and grappling with loss is also a big No in my book. The less you know about characters like him, the more effective they are.
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They had such sights to show us..
Brain Stem Soup Such wonderful sights at that....makes me so mad that this may never happen
@@kashavok Its a film cause I'd actually donate to.
I think if done with care, this would be a fantastic movie. Or a book.
Jupiter is hell moron. Takes 28 seconds to get there.
@@chrisrichards430 fk u talkin bout? >:o
Damn. This is the Hellraiser movie I’m dying to see.
I think this Hellraiser would top them all from the sounds of it.
Sounds like some kind of horror epic.
This sounds absolutely spectacular! Just fantastically awesome. If it would have turned out even half as wicked as it sounds it would have been a blood soaked epic. Its a tragedy no one had the brains or balls to produce it.
Software will get so good and not as expensive as a car that folks will actualize their own stories. Can't wait.
You will be waiting for a very, very long time. It's unlikely it will ever be made. Sadly
Michael Cairns oh it will, you cannot stop technology from changing and evolving. No matter what THEY will have to conform to the times just as they had to with Netflix.
@@capitalizingcapitalist1202 it's not the technological aspect that's the problem. It the Hollywood. They don't have the vision like the people who made the trailer. I love the idea they have! Maybe Netflix could make🤞
I was amazed by this when I first heard about it and followed it's production on facebook. I got the kickstarter artbook by Paul Gerrard and have a print from it on my wall too ;) Unfortunately they announced the 'official' remake by Clive Barker the day before the pitch was due to be launched, a remake that never materialised, so I can't help but think that they announced it purely to scupper the pitch. Couldn't agree with you more - they definitely need to do something like this to breath some new life into it.
Dimension films who was going to produce it demanded it to be "Teen Friendly" to capture a new audience lmao. So naturally everyone bailed. Now it's HBO that will make a series so i'm curious to see a trailer dropping at some point.
Hellraiser women film coming to hulu 😆
This would have been a good movie. It's a intriguing premise for a origin story
if budget is an issue, they could make it animated!
It would be more time consuming which could mean higher budget. Unless they put crappy animation and voice actors.
MoonBeamLaser Animation is just as expensive sometimes even more. More staff is involved with animation, it takes a lot more time to create and complete an animated movie and time is money.
Lovecrath would be impressed.
Lovecraft, you dolt!
Yes
To be completely honest, this would make an incredible gaming experience. I would absolutely invest in this if the right people were involved. Geiger, Barker, and a studio well established in this type of horror. Maybe a souls style... Best if it's unforgiving. Cenobite creation and evolution could be amazing as well. Perhaps one of Pinheads war party as the main character.
If this were to become cannon, then we as fans would have to assume that the Pinhead we come to know is more like the one from Hellraiser 3, where he is part Elliot Spencer and part dark entity or "a living embodiment of Spencer's ID". I actually like that, IF that is the case, as it gives Hellraiser 3 some more value. However if that is not the case then all the other Hellraisers have to be wiped from Cannon as we are lead to believe that Elliot Spencer is Pinhead and no Elliot Spencer no Pinhead. Where as Origins would suggest Pinhead was around before Elliot Spencer opened the box. As I stated on another post the timelines with Hellraiser movies don't always work. They suggest that Pinhead (from Elliot Spencer opening the box) appears and all of sudden he is top dog in hell and has a bunch of followers and even Angelique (who seems to be more of a dark entity with a human host) that has been around long before Spencer opened the box follows Pinhead. I think the Origins movie, from what you have told us, would add a great deal to the Hellraiser story (from the movie perspective) and tie the other movie (especially first 4) into the series rather well. It would just give everything more cohesiveness.
To me, origins suggested that the 'post' of pinhead may have been held by numerous entities throughout time, and that Elliot Spencer was simply the most recent incarnation. I quite like the idea of that because it gives the cenobites as an order an ancient history,
It would make sense considering that Cenobites don't remember their human lives. Could be that the "entity" known as Pinhead chose Elliot as a host, and all of the powers and reputation came with it.
I've been informed elsewhere that this is 'typical' CB approach ie. not confined 100% to previously established canon. Worst case scenario? JJ Abrams......!
I’d be SOFA KING chuffed to see a movie like this, especially if today’s visual effects technology were brought to it. It would be the Cronenberg ”The Fly” to the original “The Fly.” I always knew the Hellraiser mythos could be far more fantastical and epic than it was in the original movies: those fell because they dwelled too much in the humanosphere. I know the central philosophy of the series was to illustrate humans as truly monstrous, and the “monsters” cast as something more noble - a very Barkerian theme - but the humanocentric ethic of the films just led us into another hack-and-slashfest.
Origins fell because there is no "humanosphere." The Hellraiser serie fell to very bad writings and extremely low budgets. The Cenobites are twisted perv flesh carvers. Midian is where you get that Monsters are good and humans are bad feeling. But not in Hell. Actually, Cenobites are totally dehumanised. It's a bit lame to just see the monsters as better than humans. And it's been done to death ever since. And it is Not a typical Barker trait.
I once submitted a treatment for a Chatterer spin off. I'm sure it will get green lit any day now... :(
I wish you much luck. I have taken similar tactics.
I tried the same. Got nothing but lip service from the studio.
Man every time you make one of these about hell raiser I'm like YES! It will be made then you crush me so hard😂
This could be made very easily, as an animated feature. This would be perfect in an animated format.
At this point I'll settle for anything, as long as a detective is NOT the main character!!
This seems like it would be cool to watch though.
This is epic! What a shame they haven't made this into a movie. I agree with Mr H, this is the ultimate reboot and I believe it would open a labyrinth that needs to be explored in more grisly detail
They should have you do the audio novel of it!!
Your voice is up there with the greats like Vincent Price, Micheal Cain, Sean Connery.
You are just way to pretty to let any one see you though! lol
that's how you write a reboot! awesome! if only we could have this...sigh..., will be happy to see more--thanks mr H!
Can you imagine how insanely good this would be with an art director like Tarsem Singh (The Cell/Immortals) behind it? Each scene would be gorgeous and it's own allegory yet equally horrifying but not over the top in a campy way. I'd love to see that. It'd probably stick with me for 15+ years just like the first time J-Lo went into his DreamWorld and witnessed his trophy rooms 😳
I remember watching the pitch video for the first time and getting all tingly, still does it to me. Thanks for the video Mr. H. I look forward to more on this from you.
I FUCKING LOVE THIS!!!! THIS WOULD OF MADE THE ABSOLUTE BEST HELLRAISER EVER!!! WHAT WERE THEY THINKING NOT WANTING TO GO ANY FURTHER!!???
Half expected to hear about a leap of faith moment.
Feels like the Dark Crystal of Hellraiser movies.
I can totally see this being made with the budget of the first Scorpion King movie, or maybe one of the less crappy sequels. The treatment is insane in a good way.
I feel as if I've seen you in a false life somewhere...
@@unclefranklin4575 I'm known to have reincarnated in several digial versions, all of them equally annoying to certain group of individuals!
I don't think we have a chance in hell of getting a Hellraiser movie with a $60 million budget. They would have to break well over $100 million to get in the green. As much as I love Hellraiser, I don't see them making a big investment like that.
The early years of pinhead: pretzel face
😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, this sounded incredible! Certainly a new life into the mythology
Wow.... no kidding this is a great way to kick off a new form to the story. That ending would be a hellish scape to see
I'd rather just watch a Hellraiser film set in Hell or where ever Pinhead lives.
Pinhead lives in Camden, NJ. 🤣
Hell is in the White House.
@@LABallin247 hell is people
Reading The Scarlet Gospels is the next best thing.
The Cenobites are not creatures of Hell.
sell it to blumhouse, at least they actually have RESPECT for the genre and the fans that have been hungry for a decent hellraiser since bloodline
Tell that to truth or dare.
Tell that to any Blumhouse horror movie, cookie cutter shit with gimmicky jump scares as their no.1 scare tactic
You should REALLY read the RPG books of a universe called KULT It is amazing and with a very hellraiser-esque theme
And rebooted itself!
It's a great rpg, truly. (And Swedish, to boot!)
Really such a pity that it would've been great ! Really wanted to see, thanks as always I love how you depict it in simple clear words that makes the story more enjoyable
OMG OMG OMG I wish they would make this movie! It seems like a combination of Scarlet Gospels and some of the best associated side stories. This would have been fantastic, though Pinhead looking for his family is a little weird.
This is great but it misses the point. The fun of Hellraiser is that most of the mystery is implied. You don't know what Leviathan is but you can guess. You don't know what a Cenobite does but you can tell that you won't like that you'll eventually like it if you become one, and how your paradigm would have to shift to make that happen. This is cool mythology stuff but it's a tabletop game, not a Hellraiser reboot. Hellraiser movies are intimate, individual, and close enough to be carnal.
This would make a great Netflix series rather than a movie
I know, right? Sometimes it seems like Netflix is the savior of quality programming.
I'd binge-watch that!!
Better game 🔥
@Arusiek90 same thing I said a week ago
They are making a Hellraiser series now. Not sure if it's Netflix, but that's what we are getting instead of a film reboot.
It would be one hell of a way to breathe new life in. I love the origins idea. Even love that the lead is still referred to as pinhead, especially since Barker himself has shown in his works that the form/look of pinhead is transferable to whoever takes the mantle. Too bad we'll have to be satisfied with what we have.
This sadly reminds me of the Del Toro Mountains of Madness film. Its just too expensive to make. But I feel that movies like this NEED to be made. It could change horror films entirely, and bring us a renaissance of new highly expensive, high quality films.
Man they should make this movie it shouldn't make a Hellraiser reboot to be like this yeah I better that Hellraiser Origins teaser it's really as far as I kind of like to see that happen
This would put the Hellraiser series back where it should be!!! The visuals alone would be epic and horrifying.
If ever there was a need for a crowd funded movie this is it. This story needs to be told on film.
In one trailer they used Doug's Voice and in concept art had him done up as the hellpreist
I think this would be an amazing concept for the up coming TV show. But the only thing I would change is the reveal. I'd have the main Priest character unnamed/unrevealed until the last episode of the 1st series where we find out he is/transformed into Pinhead.
I wanted to see that film this could have turned out to be really good
The idea of this just sounds like it would've been so damn interesting. I enjoy stories about fictional gods, demons, and even hell. Just add your voice as a narrator, and bam! We got a new Hellraiser movie.
You remind me of myself. Well, your voice does that is. We both have very deep voices, but you have the cool accent to go with it.
Peter Jackson would do a LOTR scale number on it
Art work is incredible!
You have such beautiful sights to show us. I’d open the box to watch more of your videos.
That should become, at least, a high end book. High quality print, illustration and extended story!
Sounds a bit like a remix or extended fan fiction pulled from Barker's "The Scarlet Gospels".
I thought of the Scarlet Gospels as well
Sounds like a mix of GoT and Snyder' original JL vision. It also sounds like something no studio would ever dare to fund.
This sounds fucking awesome, except I don't know how they could do it without basically going for an R rated Lord of The Rings format.
Edit: wait... steal God's fire... engineers... NOOOOOOO!!!
WOW! I hope they incorporate this as canon or a side corner of Hell, in the New Hellraiser series!
Dude this sounds so freaking awesome, I have been waiting for Hellraiser too be done right and give us some back story into Leviathan, Pinhead and so on. I'm listening to your video Mr. H and dude hearing you gave me chillz, I so wish I had the money to make this movie into a reality. Good work as always !
I would have loved to see this movie! This and the hellraiser script for the remake we never got sounded very cool to me!
Yes! I mentioned this when you did the hellraiser script! This has an art book called book of shadows that had amazing cenobite visuals. Thank you!
I am a huge HellRaiser fan and this movie would be amazing should be done in 2021.
That trailer gives me everything I need. I love it to bits. Sad they cant seem to get past ideas and trailers.
i litteraly could not finish this video! it was just to painful to watch knowing it's never going to be released..
This looks absolutely terrifying, I would love to see this made into a movie
Oh shit! It didn't look so brigth and sunny at old times either...
Hellraiser or not. Something like this is deffinently something i would watch. Concept is awesome.
Not only did I hear that but I saw it in my mind!!!
They should do one of three things: book/graphic novel, a script book with pics and notes or use this for the HBO series
You definitely are a cenobite Mr H. Keep torturing us with what could've been....
I like it a lot. Its the same sort of in-genre shift that happened between Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick. It would be a bastard to script though, let alone get filmed.
I agree with you it would be awesome if they could do that
i want to see a hellraiser movie, where the cenobites just go along their everyday lives. washing their blody clothes, going to work, doing their taxes, being good parents...
Out of all of the classic horror franchises, Hellraiser is the most tragic to me. There's so much potential with this story, but instead hollywood opts to basically keep doing the same thing.
I subscribed to your channel after this. Superb.
Remarkable. Love your presentation.
Completely off topic, but loving that creepy music he always uses.
This looked great.
Awesome story line
Mr H. You should direct tjis movie..that would be great.
He should voice Pinhead
This would make a badass miniseries! It’s a damn shame that it never made it past the pitch.
Why did they not DO this!? It would have brought hellraiser into something so grand.
If there was ANY title I was wanting in addition to the first and second movies (also, Bloodlines) it was Origins.
Why did they scuttle what appeared to be the most intriguing Hellraiser movie ever?
This would have been a good horror action film, more horror of course.
Hahahaha! Yeah, I seen this. Wicked.
Very intriguing indeed, I enjoyed listening to that. If only that vision had become reality as a movie.
I've just discovered a game called Tormentum (3 years late, admittedly) & the creatures/landscapes story would fit right in with this.
The art is incredible!
PS. Can we have you say 'order of the gash' before the year's end? You say it so...beautifully that I grin like the idiot I am
The cenobites didn’t have family because they are void of emotion. Their human counterparts had families but the process of making them cenobites meant they were no longer tethered to their human existence. Pinhead by definition wouldn’t care if his wife and daughter were taken unless he was in his human form or growing weak (which is uncharacteristic). As a matter of fact when he was face to face with his daughter Joey in Hellraiser lll, this is exactly how it played out. In the Scarlet Gospels book The Hell Priest (Pinhead’s true name) is as a powerful ruthless mid level demon that was looking to level up and was killing true practitioners of magic to steal it and become even more powerful. Using his power he murdered his way through hell to get to Lucifer in his quest for power. This deviates from Barker’s vision for this character. The story is actually superior to this one and broken up into two or three movies would be epic.
This is amazing
Please let someone produce this someday!
You are an excellent story teller.
Shame, sounds like this would be a really good Hellraiser film... Gods know we need more of those 😜
The ideas and concepts will live on .
Sounds like it would be a mess of a movie but maybe a good book
This movie would be legendary
Since Hellraiser movies are in limbo is there anything happening with Clive Barker's Tortured Souls?
would have been nice to see an "Origins" version of this film, I really enjoyed this series when it came out and I think it is long overdue a reboot!
Not only expensive, but a little low concept. It's hard to bring that much new information to an audience in under two hours. Studios are already wary of the concept because of the BDSM aspect, adding magic and other aspects overcomplicates it for them.
Im so pissed this may never happen now. Like it reminds me so much of two of my favorite game franchises of all time “Doom” and “Silent Hill) that I instantly started to liking it knowing that it’d take place in Hell. Like i see the way Hell being set up would be really similar to the one in Doom with the look and inhabitants of Silent Hill. Seems something really different, but also a good one unlike most that would actually make good enough sense to the classic Hellraiser movies.
Well at least we’re getting a new hell raiser now
I would love to see Mr.H as the new Hell Priest (Pinhead)
Sounded amazing...
It kills me that everything after 3 really felt like a different movie, it wasn't so focused and it was always 'out of it's own way' in a sense .. It just felt like any movie with occasional cenobites but we never knew anything about them other than they were in the movie ..
I think Clive has a masterful way of forming our imaginations into worlds of pleasure and pain. It's actually deeply frustrating that we're seeing the 'third' Halloween 2 but we're not getting an origin story that actually looks interesting. I mean right up until 'What is your pleasure sir?' it makes sense.
History repeats itself .. But, I'm not happy with all these fucking remakes shitting on the reputation of the original. It underplays movies that have come before and it guarantees sheer predictable monotony from any prequels, sequels in addition to these new 'remakes' or 'reboots'.
I mean this has serious potential, it would gain a whole new audience in this day and age .. Hell, it could even expand further and fix the franchise from a very sporadic endeavor to a much more consistent one. Maybe it could even go further into cenobites of the first movie, I mean chatterer was cool as fuck.
Looked amazing
Honestly, I love the setting and the aesthetics, but not the plot or narrative concept. Sounds more like a war movie with BDSM window dressing. And there's very little to characterize the cenobites to the point where we're familiar with them. I kinda hate the idea that the cenobites are trapped *inside* the box rather than it being a doorway of sorts to their dimension imho.
Making Pinhead a sympathetic protagonist with a family and grappling with loss is also a big No in my book. The less you know about characters like him, the more effective they are.
This sounds amazing, sadly not happening.Mr.H is the High Preist of all that is Hellraiser lore,thank you Sir.
I am still hoping hellraiser origin becomes a movie