Been driving my 2018 Nissan. Over 100,000Km mileage and still good ! This looks almost identical to my current Leaf. Don't know how much it changed in the inside but Leaf is very ideal for the average driver.
How a company that was so beloved and early in the EV space couldn't do better than the Ariya is mindboggling. Nissan should be the top ev manufacturer right now. Especially given the fact their ICE vehicles haven't been selling well for awhile. I hear the Maxima is coming back as an EV. For me, that is top of the list to go test drive when it happens. One of my favorite ICE vehicles when I was younger.
They focused on the 350/G35 370.. massive massive amount of R&D went into those brands to their skyline offerings ( North American G’s) they didn’t focus on EV like they should have and now they 5 years behind on EV competition
I’m an EV tech and my main concern with Nissan Leaf is Battery cooling. Air cooling is not ideal for electric cars. Hybrid fine but not electric cars. It should be liquid cooled. I think the reason is to cut cost, but it is the reason why Nissan Leaf have premature battery issue.
The chemistry of the Leaf battery was changed several years ago and is now significantly less prone to degradation due to heat. It's really not an issue now. Fast charging on the other hand on a hot day could hamper a trip if you really need to go farther and need to fast charge more than once to get there and can't cool the battery actively.
I owned a 2022 Leaf and the ride was NOT hursh. The suspension is soft and feels nice. Agree about the torque steer. If Nissan will drop the CHADEMO and put CCS it will sell very well.
Almost 37K for a SV Plus with less range to be comparable to a 32K Bolt EUV with Confidence Package . CHAdeMO is a dead standard, CCS is your next best choice for now.
The problem with these cheap EVs is that a Prius is always the better buy. There should be a market for short range EVs but they need to be under $20k which means they need to be able to bypass safety and other standards
Agreed. EVs with short range and/or can charge slower than 150 kW should not be over $20K. 150 kW should be minimum of today's world (yes, I'm talking to you, Bolt). It wastes the owners' and other people's time waiting to charge at stations during the peak times. 46 kW and 55 kW are painful for Leaf and Bolt.
@@tant.5864Batteries are crazy expensive and the wiring and systems to hold such amounts of power are way more expensive too. The reality is that EV's are not economical at all to build as they use scarce materials and push the limits of physics in terms of transferring power.
It's a good choice for very short trips. But like Lyn speculated, since Nissan has the larger Aryia, the Leaf will likley be discontinued since the charging port is outdated and everyone wants a crossover for their daily driver instead of a sedan or hatchback.
Couple of things... Turning radius is underwhelming One pedal driving works well regardless if you're in B mode or not Friction brakes are very grabby taking over from EV braking You cannot disable the backup sonar sound can get annoying Love this car for our daily commute and errands around town
The Tesla Model 3 is less than $33,000 with the Federal Tax Credit and even below $30K in some states that have additional incentives. Plus the Leaf has no active heating/cooling system for the battery, meaning that longevity will be worse. Will likely need a battery replacement much sooner than other EVs including Teslas. It's cheap, but not as good of a value. Plus with Tesla you don't have to go into a dealership and deal with all of the price haggling nonsense that comes with it. You just pay the listed price, destination fee, and taxes.
Tesla is a vehicle you don't own at all. Nobody can repair it but Tesla and battery replacements are insanely priced. They watch your every move and everyone you drive with and record everything you say. This is just a giant piece of spyware on wheels. Also the fit & Finish on Tesla vehicles is HORRIBLE to say the least. The cars are filled with cheap plastic and glued together.
When you did a standing start acceleration, you mentioned that it wasn't quite as quick. Could it be because you had e-pedal and ECO mode on? Turning these off makes a difference
I got a 2020 SV leaf last Spring. It's a great car around town, but not so much on the highway. I wish it had more range, and I also have to agree that it's hard to find a comfortable seating position.
Nissan really should have added thermal management and faster charging. It’s just out of date on day one. It may as well have a CD player in the dash.😂
I miss the Nissan Maxima and I'm still waiting for next Gen nissan titan but I know nissan has something up its sleeve or there sleeves 😂 also the nissan ariya looks like a bloated nissan leaf a little bit 😂😂 still looks amazing though and another thing when is the next gen Nissan Murano gonna come out like seriously I low-key thought the muramo would get a update before the frontier did to be honest
I heard the Toyota bz4x/Subaru Solterra actually has slower charging than the Leaf does. Even with an active cooling system Toyota intentionally caps their platform at 50kW to preserve the health of the battery. I have seen speeds as high as 72kW at EVgo with my Leaf🙃 Its going to take awhile for these legacy brands to catch up to tesla here. It isn't as easy as switching to a different charging inlet.
@@justinraynes898 not all legacy brands, just Toyota and a few others. Volvo BEVs can charge at 153 kW up to 200 kW (new models coming soon). BMWs and Merc and BW can also hit very close to 200 kW.
I don't know why they bother putting out cars with such limited range. Range anxiety is real! Spend the extra money for more range. I would never do road trips with this!
It's not a stellar product and we believe with their lack of significant upgrades, Nissan knows this and are OK with hit as they're focussing their attention elsewhere.
People buy electric to try only . After years of use they Go back to gas powered. This is a fact. Dealers dont even Drive EV. But they want you to buy one 🤪
No thanks. To get this car I would rather buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid. My friend has, or should I say had a Leaf and he really regretted buying it after it just died on him on interstate 15 outside of Barstow. The car was fully charged when he left his house.
We pride ourselves in being honest. We'd rather tell it how we see it instead of being accused of being in the pocket of car manufacturers. Thanks for the comment.
Been driving my 2018 Nissan. Over 100,000Km mileage and still good !
This looks almost identical to my current Leaf. Don't know how much it changed in the inside but Leaf is very ideal for the average driver.
Those rims are WILD
I like them
Just like the average Nissan driver lol
Ugly more like it
How a company that was so beloved and early in the EV space couldn't do better than the Ariya is mindboggling. Nissan should be the top ev manufacturer right now. Especially given the fact their ICE vehicles haven't been selling well for awhile. I hear the Maxima is coming back as an EV. For me, that is top of the list to go test drive when it happens. One of my favorite ICE vehicles when I was younger.
Hyundai has crushed the fast changing EV market. Feels like Nissan is a few years behind on what American EV buyers want.
Whats wrong with the ariya? It has most of the range, power, tech features and liquid cooling a modern ev needs
Its not sexy@@ciello___8307
They focused on the 350/G35 370.. massive massive amount of R&D went into those brands to their skyline offerings ( North American G’s) they didn’t focus on EV like they should have and now they 5 years behind on EV competition
BEVs don't make money for automakers. In fact, almost every major automaker loses money for each BEV sales.
i got Leaf 40 and its good for my wife to go work, shopping around town. she uses 20% of battery everyday. it definitely cut the gas price down
I just got a ‘19 SL plus with leather interior. I really like it.
This is a commendable car from Nissan. 150 mile range for under $30k is class leading at the moment (I think).
The Bolt has more range and is near the same price
bolt has 230 range for 27k
@@jacobyo99but the bolt is being discontinued so why bother?
I’m an EV tech and my main concern with Nissan Leaf is Battery cooling. Air cooling is not ideal for electric cars. Hybrid fine but not electric cars. It should be liquid cooled. I think the reason is to cut cost, but it is the reason why Nissan Leaf have premature battery issue.
The chemistry of the Leaf battery was changed several years ago and is now significantly less prone to degradation due to heat. It's really not an issue now. Fast charging on the other hand on a hot day could hamper a trip if you really need to go farther and need to fast charge more than once to get there and can't cool the battery actively.
Pay the extra amount and get the Ariya, ev6, or Ioniq 5. It’s wor to it for the ride comfort, charging, and range
I owned a 2022 Leaf and the ride was NOT hursh. The suspension is soft and feels nice. Agree about the torque steer. If Nissan will drop the CHADEMO and put CCS it will sell very well.
*harsh
There is a aftermarket system they are working on for CCS
There are plenty of CCS1 / CCS2 to CHAdeMO adapters online. This car rocks if you can get that adapter and 3x your charging network capability!
Almost 37K for a SV Plus with less range to be comparable to a 32K Bolt EUV with Confidence Package . CHAdeMO is a dead standard, CCS is your next best choice for now.
They need to embrace NACS
CHAdeMO is the only one that does bi-directional power at the moment.
It comes with J1772 why is that being ignored , it’s not solely Chademo
J1772 is Level 2 charging speeds.@@Daniyoyo
@@BTC909which is perfectly fine lol ? Hell the manual says don’t use Fast charging when you don’t have to anyways so who cares about Chaddy outlet ?
Lot's of picky optnion... I Love my Leaf, it does exactly what I expect.
The problem with these cheap EVs is that a Prius is always the better buy. There should be a market for short range EVs but they need to be under $20k which means they need to be able to bypass safety and other standards
Good observation.
Agreed. EVs with short range and/or can charge slower than 150 kW should not be over $20K. 150 kW should be minimum of today's world (yes, I'm talking to you, Bolt). It wastes the owners' and other people's time waiting to charge at stations during the peak times. 46 kW and 55 kW are painful for Leaf and Bolt.
@@tant.5864Yes, but the problem is that the batteries are expensive hence the companies might lose money
@@tant.5864Batteries are crazy expensive and the wiring and systems to hold such amounts of power are way more expensive too. The reality is that EV's are not economical at all to build as they use scarce materials and push the limits of physics in terms of transferring power.
I'm afraid the Ariya might steal sales from this, despite the extra cost and the not so good (for now) availability. It's just a better option.
It's a good choice for very short trips. But like Lyn speculated, since Nissan has the larger Aryia, the Leaf will likley be discontinued since the charging port is outdated and everyone wants a crossover for their daily driver instead of a sedan or hatchback.
New LEAF confirmed for 2025.
Great review Lyn!😸
Couple of things...
Turning radius is underwhelming
One pedal driving works well regardless if you're in B mode or not
Friction brakes are very grabby taking over from EV braking
You cannot disable the backup sonar sound can get annoying
Love this car for our daily commute and errands around town
The Tesla Model 3 is less than $33,000 with the Federal Tax Credit and even below $30K in some states that have additional incentives. Plus the Leaf has no active heating/cooling system for the battery, meaning that longevity will be worse. Will likely need a battery replacement much sooner than other EVs including Teslas. It's cheap, but not as good of a value.
Plus with Tesla you don't have to go into a dealership and deal with all of the price haggling nonsense that comes with it. You just pay the listed price, destination fee, and taxes.
Tesla is a vehicle you don't own at all. Nobody can repair it but Tesla and battery replacements are insanely priced.
They watch your every move and everyone you drive with and record everything you say. This is just a giant piece of spyware on wheels.
Also the fit & Finish on Tesla vehicles is HORRIBLE to say the least. The cars are filled with cheap plastic and glued together.
@@Jimster481 True. The interior is so nasty, and smells like chemicals even after 30k miles.
@@smurf88 Yes because they costed it down to the max.
When you did a standing start acceleration, you mentioned that it wasn't quite as quick. Could it be because you had e-pedal and ECO mode on? Turning these off makes a difference
100%
Here in Norway the base model cost less than 18000 $ dollars on the road. We dont pay taxes on cheaper ev cars.
Still about $10,000 too much to justify considering the range.
Back to 2009..what a trip
30k no way , 18k used is where the value is , period
Makes a lot of sense in Maryland close to i95
I got a 2020 SV leaf last Spring. It's a great car around town, but not so much on the highway. I wish it had more range, and I also have to agree that it's hard to find a comfortable seating position.
Nissan really should have added thermal management and faster charging. It’s just out of date on day one. It may as well have a CD player in the dash.😂
Lyn is so nice 😂
Forget dealer markups, they’ll have to offer dealer incentives to sell this thing! Who’s Nissan’s CEO???? Fire his 🍑!!!!!!
Not sure how this competes with EV6 Ionic5. How does it compete with Niro EV and Kona Electric?
You had ECO mode ON when accelerating off the line
I always love your reviews. I must say this review is "excessively kind;" the car is hopelessly outdated compared to other available EVs
I miss the Nissan Maxima and I'm still waiting for next Gen nissan titan but I know nissan has something up its sleeve or there sleeves 😂 also the nissan ariya looks like a bloated nissan leaf a little bit 😂😂 still looks amazing though and another thing when is the next gen Nissan Murano gonna come out like seriously I low-key thought the muramo would get a update before the frontier did to be honest
I like to rock out at Buttonpalooza.
Can commute and rent a v ehicle for trips
Caution of the battery pack does NOT HAVE a cooling system. The battery cannot fare well in the hot climates!
My 2018 did just fine in Florida for 5 years.
It does just fine in hotter climates from everything I have read.
Favorite car
Is this a positive review?
It's an honest review. Which is exactly what we put out.
Rapidgate fun?
I heard the Toyota bz4x/Subaru Solterra actually has slower charging than the Leaf does. Even with an active cooling system Toyota intentionally caps their platform at 50kW to preserve the health of the battery. I have seen speeds as high as 72kW at EVgo with my Leaf🙃 Its going to take awhile for these legacy brands to catch up to tesla here. It isn't as easy as switching to a different charging inlet.
@@justinraynes898 not all legacy brands, just Toyota and a few others. Volvo BEVs can charge at 153 kW up to 200 kW (new models coming soon). BMWs and Merc and BW can also hit very close to 200 kW.
The thumbnail shows the more expensive one that's close to 40,000
Tesla or polestar is better BUT overall nice little hatchback
I don't know why they bother putting out cars with such limited range. Range anxiety is real! Spend the extra money for more range. I would never do road trips with this!
you do know this is not meant to be a road trip car right? It was designed first as an around town car.
cool rims
You dropped the bomb on me fool
I’d no doubt get the new Prius before I get this Leaf…. Looks good on the outside but it’s just not impressive.
Why would Nissan keep selling Chademo ? Imagine buying a black and white TV in 2000.
A good review, but this ev leafs me disappointed.
It's not a stellar product and we believe with their lack of significant upgrades, Nissan knows this and are OK with hit as they're focussing their attention elsewhere.
All I need to know
They discontinued the leaf
This vehicle works best in silicon valley it was designed for them
Nissan it must be good
are they shooting this video on a phone?
Nope.
Still, no actively cooled battery, don't even think about this pile of depreciation.
*still too expensive in Canada, not worth it*
Yay first comment!! 😂
That is a nice Fiat
So a Chevy Bolt gets more mileage for cheaper? And a bolt doesn't use that stupid CHAdeMO plug.
Sure but Range isn't everything.
Don't care. I'll never buy the EV
@2:10 huh? What?
People buy electric to try only . After years of use they Go back to gas powered. This is a fact. Dealers dont even Drive EV. But they want you to buy one 🤪
It looks about 10 years out of date from a design and specs perspective
No thanks. To get this car I would rather buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid. My friend has, or should I say had a Leaf and he really regretted buying it after it just died on him on interstate 15 outside of Barstow. The car was fully charged when he left his house.
Seems way too expensive for it's size
*Nissan makes an E-Truck..
Nissan Tree
Those rims don't belong on that car. More like mad max....
Is Micah gone? 2 months since a video.
I think he has been promoted. He has his own TH-cam channel though.
Got fired
Micah is still very much at Kelley Blue Book. He's just running the video department, but he definitely still hosts videos!
Need some more Micah in front of the camera.@@kbb
I dont have 30 to 40 minutes to wait for it to charge.
Boring review
A piece of overpriced junk...
Wow, what a negative review.
We pride ourselves in being honest. We'd rather tell it how we see it instead of being accused of being in the pocket of car manufacturers. Thanks for the comment.
@@kbb And that's why I follow your channel. Thanks for the unvarnished truth.
with the bolt euv. this car becomes pointless
Except you have to drive a modern Chevy which is a giant piece of spyware that you also cannot fix yourself.