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You are either a shill or have extraordinary bad taste if you like Indy 4 and are hyped for Indy 5. Indy 4 was maybe fine as a movie on itself but absolute dog shit as an Indy movie. And Lucasfilm hasn't got any better. Instead it's now so infested with woke political zealot activist paracites; the scum of the earth, that I don't expect anything even remotely watchable coming out of that studio.
Your logic really isn't persuasive here, and the movie is definitely not a good one. Happy you enjoyed it, but what's the point of making a video like this? To convince the naysayers? To give confirmation bias to those who like it? If the former, then it doesn't do it. If the latter, then, sure. Have at it
My only real problem with the movie was that I enjoyed the first half so much that I felt a little disappointed when the second half turned into more of a standard Indy fare. A part of me kinda wishes the film just fully committed to the 50’s sci fi B-movie aesthetic. The action in the Amazon and Peru is still fun though.
It's extremely rare you'll find an 'infamously' "bad" movie to be anywhere near as bad as you've been told by the same few hipsters on the Internet. This is no longer about the quality of the film. There's a narrative now, that wouldn't be as pleasing to these snowflakes, if the movie was admitted to be better than they've made it out. That narrative people are so in love with wouldn't hold up. The bottom line is, ITS COOL TO DISLIKE THIS MOVIE. People are petrified of not fitting in and being seen as an outcast or freak. So, in all of our pathetic nature, most people hear that a movie sucks a couple times by a vocal minority, and in order to "fit in" they'll naturally want to go along with that narrative instead of being viewed as wrong or different. This happens WAYYYYY more with movies and shows than anybody is willing to admit or acknowledge. If you somehow got those insecure cowards to give up their ACTUAL REAL opinions on the movie, this would be a totally fkn different story and that's just a fact. My whole cinema loved the movie. Same with force awakens, superman returns. Man of steel. All movies that it's cool to hate. You fit in better at work and school if you join in the whinging and complaining about movies such as these. It's a hugely sad truth.
@@Whipmaster-t9hme too. It was on a personal sad day for my family and watching it with my dad was a great escape from the reality: it was also the first Indy movie on Blu-ray since the 2003 Indy dvd set
I personally prefer Skull over Temple of Doom and the recently kinda awful Dial of Destiny. Feel like Kingdom gets way too much criticism all basing around the nuclear scene, the jungle vine swinging, the ending. Alot of the hate is overblown imo
Learning about the history of the "nuclear fridge" scene really helped me appreciate it as a dumb pulpy moment put in by Spielberg. In the original script for 'Back to the Future', the only way for Marty to get enough power to return home is to withstand a nuclear blast... by hiding in a lead-lined refrigerator. Spielberg liked the idea and it was a sort of screenwriting "in-joke" for decades until he finally put it into Kingdom of the Crystal skull.
The Crystal Skull online discourse was a harbinger of how virtually every new entry in a well-established franchise is treated, regardless of quality. It’s also disturbingly similar to how a lot of non-pop-culture topics are treated online these days.
Fun fact: originally, Lucas wanted Indy to have a daughter, but Spielberg vetoed that idea because he felt people would find it too similar to The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Regardless, I feel that they shouldn't have revealed Mutt as Indy's biological son. They should have kept him as just Marion's kid whom she had with the man she married - you know, show Indy what he could have had if he had stayed with Marion. And by the end, he becomes Mutt's new father figure. Feel free to disagree, but in my opinion that would have been more interesting.
I’ve seen this movie countless times and even 4 in theater when I was 8. I fully stand by what you’re saying here as the idea of him not being present in his sons life or never talking to Marion again just feels out of character. I understand he’s a globe trotting adventurer who doesn’t have time for a relationship but he was close with people she knew prior to raiders even and their chemistry felt more like actual love than any of the others.
Oh I agree. I didn't have a problem with Shia Lebouf. It was the writing of his character. Mutt was homage to 50s bikers. But he played it in a dorky kind of way. Lol. Plus the scene with the swinging monkeys. I cringe thinking about it. But overall, being a sci-fi genre fan, I liked the storyline. The marriage at the end was good. Not as special as The Last Crusade riding off into the sunset ending though.
I have the feeling after "Dial of Destiny" comes out, "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" will somehow be the perfect sequel all of a sudden, praised as the perfect "happily ever after" with Indy's marriage to Marion. I also feel like people will get divisive about which is the better epilogue to the original Indy trilogy, between 4 or 5. Time will tell. I have no expectations for the movie itself, and am looking forward to riding the ride.
@@papameeloI still fee like the prequels do better than KotCS simply because of the memes. Think of classics like “I don’t like sand,” “A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one,” or “This is where the fun begins,” and then try to think of popular memes related to this movie. There aren’t many.
It was never THAT bad. In fact I think much of the anger towards it was performative. The prequels basically created the TH-cam film critique sphere and that kind of 'overstating flaws' critique needs to go over the top to create engagement. Having Lucas' name on it just fueled it. Indy 4 was the band coming back and being slightly out of tune but still being a heck of a lot of fun to hang out with!
What about all the people like me who just hated the movie, I'm not performing for anyone. I hate it, my friends hate it. We found it boring, derivative, poorly written, boring and generally ill-conceived. I hated the idea of it, I watched it when it came out and I didn't like it the whole way through. Are you just going to no true Scotsman away all the people like me?
This movie has been taking SUCH a beating on the internet for YEARS now, and it's always frustrated me a bit. I've always enjoyed it just as much as the other 3, and I'm really glad to see someone else give a different take on it.
Yea people ALWAYS point to that scene, which is about 2 minutes long. It's stupid as hell but it has no impact on the rest of the film. It really is a 6 or 7 out of 10 fun but flawed film.
The issue people have with the fridge seen ignores the other incredibly unlikely things that happened in the other films. Riding for weeks on the outside of a u-boat without drowning or dying of exposure? Using a raft to fall out of a plain and over some massive cliffs? The main issue IMHO is the cheap ending that isn't prepared for earlier in the movies.
@@adriandenton6637I feel like that’s kind of the reason people don’t like the scene: it’s goofy, completely pointless, and longer than it should be. If you combine the first two, but make them short and sweet, they can work, but the nuclear fridge just kinda overstayed its welcome (I wouldn’t say that it’s that much more unrealistic than anything from the previous movies, as some are wont to say, but perhaps that’s just my personal taste)
It's like, why would anyone care about the crystal skull, when they have a magical fridge that grants invulnerability - it seems much more impressive than the title artifact.
I think its worth mentioning that while Harrison Ford was 64 when Crystal Skull came out, Indy is technically 58. This will also be the case for the new film as well as it takes place in 1969 meaning Indy would be 70 not almost 80 like Ford in real life. I think knowing this has made the action more believable I guess considering the character is technically younger than the actor.
After watching this video last night, I decided to put myself up to a challenge: to watch Indy 4 until I got bored of the film, or until I felt that the movie broke the feel of the original three- I ended up watching the whole movie. It’s just as enjoyable as the rest. I may not love it like I do Raiders, but it’s definitely going to be added to my future Indiana Jones marathons. It’s damn fun.
I was going to comment something similar. A few weeks ago I started watching just to see the Area 51 part, and finished the movie enjoyably. The last third was relatively underwhelming, but I had a smile the whole time. It felt great, as this was the first movie I remember leaving the theatre feeling disappointed by as a kid. Wonderful to see this vid and read comments from people having similar experiences.
Same kind of thing, they started playing all four movies on Film4 last year, one movie each day. I remember watching Kingdom just to kill time and ended up really enjoying it
I really think the sequel trilogy existing has made people just look back on previous revivals that were panned in the past and just say "Maybe we had it good back then". Heck this movie introduces the younger replacement character but at the end Indy takes back the hat to tell us the audience no one can replace Indiana Jones. Which considering the track record of modern day franchise revivals is just so refreshing.
The movie isn’t terrible. One thing I hope they do with Dial of Destiny is that they make a Drew Struzan type poster to go with it. All four other films have a Struzan cover/poster and the upcoming one should as well.
Idk if you saw but Drew tweeted out the other day a gif of Indy from Raiders “start the engine!” with the caption “me every time I’m asked if I’m coming out of retirement…”
My brother & I actually love this movie. Reasons: - This was a Indiana Jones film, not bait & switch with Mutt - Cast was good, i absolutely loved Kate Blanchett being evil with a funny accent 👑 - It had some ridiculous scenes like the nuclear bomb, the warehouse scene, the waterfall scene, the horrific ant scene, the aliens, we laughed hard at the spider monkey Tarzan scene. Silly, but very joyable to watch. - They brought back old characters & i actually loved the aesthetic of it 🙌 This aged well for me and they could've continued it with recasted Indy. This was a very cool film ✌️
Before someone @s me, racist, terrible grossout humor, ugly, needlessly gory, nonsensical plot, overly nihilistic, Willy sucks hard, terrible waterfall scene, uninspired performances. I do like the intro, Short Round, and the minecart tho.
@@positivetakes5592 No need to justify your feelings on it, you are spot on! Even Spielberg regrets a number of culturally insensitive moments & decisions in Temple of Doom. They thought that because they were riffing on cheap adventure serials of the 30s they could get away with recreating terribly racist and insulting tropes.
@@positivetakes5592 With respect, I disagree. While there might've been a misrepresentation of Hindu deities (like making Khali explicitly evil, and the voodoo doll), there was an established difference between the village Indy first meets and Pankot Palace. The fact it's so gross and clearly messed up is supposed to indicate there's something wrong with the place (I mean, just look at the totem of human fingers practically hanging on the front door). So, I guess I don't get the racism complaint. The plot is clearly laid out with the villain's scheme of collecting the stones, and Indy coincidentally landing there to deal with it can be handwaved by divine intervention (which we know exists in the universe). Willy, I digress. She toughened up by the end and landed a solid punch on a goon. Nihilistic? Once you get past the sacrifice scene, it has one of the most uplifting climaxes and endings of the original 3 movies (Raiders is kind of cynical with the Ark being put in the warehouse), with Indy having an intense fight with the slave driver and returning the children to their parents. I'm not saying it's my favorite, but I call it underrated. The discussion of British colonialism in India and the very real thuggee movement was also very interesting from the historical standpoint, in my opinion.
@@HyraxusPrimus I appreciate your perspective. However I would say that racism isn't only surface level and can also be about influence on an audience. And things like showing the PM to be in league with the bad guy, or diminishing the villagers to simply victims (rather than multifaceted humans), Indy's portrayal as a white savior, the claim that monkey brains is traditional Indian food (it isn't, Indian food is delicious), and yeah, very questionable interpretations of Hinduism, not to mention short round or the representation of the Hong Kong gangsters, are all these things influence the non-critical viewer's perception of the real India. In fairness, the representation of Germans in the other movies is also pretty racist but considered acceptable because... you know. As are the South Americans in part one.
This can be summed up by remembering one key point: NOBODY hates anything more than its own fans. Regardless of what it is, that will always apply. Some (not all) get so obsessed with something it is subsumed as part of their identity so if one aspect changes or takes a path different than they expected it becomes a personal attack on their own sense of self.
It's SOOOOO refreshing to see a reasonable, non-hyperbolic-angry-dweeb take about this film. As it ages, the outrage about the film just feels more and more performative. I agree that the film itself probably has the messiest script of the 4, but it has TONS of heart, amazing action we simply don't see much of today, and you can tell Spielberg and Co. were just having fun.
It’s a fun time with just kind of messy pacing. It still feels like Indiana Jones and I’ll never understand why people act like it’s the death of the franchise.
I actually enjoyed it except for the end. It was such a cliche climax. Oh wow, they found the big mystery, only for it to self destruct, kill the last of the baddies in the process, and then disappear without a trace. Never saw that before!
So happy to see more positivity regarding Crystal Skull! I always thought it was a really fun movie and a lot of its "flaws" were stylistic choices trying to emulate 50s sci-fi that was driven by auteurs like Spielberg and Lucas (as opposed to by a corporate committee like so many sequels are nowadays)
Thank you for this video. I saw this film with my dad when it was new. It was half of my lifetime ago, and I still love it to this day. I always get laughed at by my friends telling me it’s “such a bad movie” because “aliens in Indy just doesn’t work” and you’ve addressed all of those points perfectly. It’s not a groundbreaking addition to the Indy franchise, but it’s not this abhorrent piece of garbage that people treat it like.
I never thought it was that bad. It's another fun, absurd adventure with Indy at a different stage in life and a story that fits with the time period. And seeing him end up with Marion was awesome. Never liked Shia LaBeouf being in it but other than that it's an enjoyable continuation of Indy's story
I remember watching this film for the first time. My dad and uncle, who were the biggest Indy fans on the planet, took me and my brother out of town to this beautiful, expensive cinema with leather seats and an actual food cart in the screen itself, which is rare for a British cinema. That was one of my most memorable film experiences but my dad and uncle were both crushed after seeing the film as they were quite disappointed. Me personally, I was happy with it 👍
@@ssssssssssssssssss50 There was a sort of cart on wheels in the screen itself where you could get popcorn and drinks. You don't usually see that in British Cinemas
@@sealionstudios8597 I can’t comprehend how the cart on wheels was in the screen that the film was projected on and am so curious right now. Looked it but but didn’t find anything. Regardless, I am really glad you have such fond memories of the film
@@ssssssssssssssssss50 he meant in the screening, how do you not get this? Screening=cinema, there was a food cart in the theatre is that easier to get? Not sure if I worded this any better
@@Planless_Dutchman nobody in the US has ever heard of a film screening being referred to as a "screen" i wouldn't doubt it's uncommon in other places in the world too. i learned it for the first time reading this comment thread. saying "in the screen" gives people like us the impression that the movie is played/projected over top of it and you're meant to walk up in front of the movie and annoy other viewers whenever you want popcorn or a sodie-pop
remember. when people say Indiana Jones 4 is bad they lie. they say the refridgerator scene is bad but they're totally ok with a woman sacrificed to fire and not getting burned. they hate shia labeouf character but they're totally ok with the sidekick kid with no story. they complain about the aliens but they're totally ok with the ghosts from the box. and etc. every IJ movie has the same formula. that is why every IJ movie is a non stop perfect entertaining action adventure movie. these haters are just some sad aging people.
I’ve always found crystal skull underrated. I enjoyed it as a kid. Even when my little brother watched Indiana Jones for the first time, I showed him crystal skull and didn’t tell him they had made it 19 years later and that Indy was older. I simply put it on for him as the next adventure and he enjoyed it the most out of all of them at the time which was interesting. I enjoy it more than temple of doom myself. I would say the only things that bring it down are the nuke scene and mutt swinging with monkeys.
Despite my many issues with the film, I completely agree that the bashing of the NUKE THE FRIDGE scene is ridiculous. I honestly loved it: It's one of those classic action moments where you keep thinking "How in the world is he going to survive THAT?". I think the sequence would have been received far, far better with a rather easy fix: If, when the fridge landed and the door opened, he looked severely beaten up. Like, near-death beaten up. Yes, it would still be a completely unrealistic moment - but at least you would feel the severity of the ordeal.
Yeah I think it’s the fact it flies across the sky and he’s still standing afterwards but then again he jumps out of a plane on a raft in Temple and is absolutely fine so I think people really pick and choose what’s “unrealistic” and what isn’t
@@FullFatVideos Because dropping from a plane on a raft and surviving, while ridiculous, is not out of the realm of possibility. People have survived failed skydives from several kilometers up with minor injuries. Being in a refrigerator a fraction of a mile from a miniature fucking sun and not being vaporized, or condemned to terminal radiation sickness, on account of being inside a lead-lined refrigerator? Please. That's a bullshit equivocation.
I think it would have been similar to his falling off the cliff in Crusade, which is fun and he looks beat up after, even having to take a second to rest on the ground
It's the impossibility that kills it for me. No freaking lead fridge would make you survive a nuclear blast!! It's just not comparable to jumping out of a plane in a boat or falling down.a cliff or something. It just doesn't work. And yeah, the bad cgi throughout the film doesn't hep either.
Honestly as I had only seen the films during a month long period weeks ago, for the first time...I enjoyed Temple best, and Crystal Skull, while not as well made as the prior films- I rated higher. I enjoyed it quite a lot, especially the campy performance of Blanchett and the return of Karen Allen! The time period was fun as well. And I was quite tired of the Nazi villains...anything other than that.
I suspect Temple plays better today than at the time because we're used to movies having very rapid pacing these days. At the time, one of the most common criticisms of Temple was that it was too fast-paced and "exhausting" to watch. Today, movies whose entire final hour is nonstop action are pretty standard.
@@jasonblalock4429 I found the female character very annoying (unfortunately) but the darkness of the plot was so interesting to me and Short Round!! Love him!
@@JaiProdz Yeah, Kate Capshaw is pretty much universally considered the worst part of Temple. BTW, did you realize that Short Round is the same guy who played Waymond in Everything Everywhere All At Once?
@@jasonblalock4429 not until I finished the film. And then I saw the photo of them reunited and I wished Ke Huy Quan could've been in the upcoming film :( Maybe it's still possible.
@@FullFatVideos The raft is easily more silly! At least in Crystal Skull, you can say that he survived because he drank from the Holy Grail. In ToD, three people fell out of a plane and hit the side of a mountain. And survived.
No no the nuke the fridge scene is still dumb because hed be mush but he didnt, also eveb if u could survive whatsver that fall was u would get radiation poisoning because he wss in the blast radius ans furthermore was still close to it
Yeah it makes me very intrigued to see what happens next. What will be the action heroes of the future and next generations. What movies now will be the classics that get nostalgia bait legacy sequels with cast members nearing their 90s. As a fan of movies you don't want your favorite franchise to end, but you don't want them to become something you don't enjoy. Movies need to keep moving forward and growing or else they will stagnate and die, something no one wants. All and all I'm very interested to see what comes next.
It's one of my favorite awful movies. The vine swinging, terrible but hilarious; the ants that eat a person in 3 seconds, terrible but hilarious; the cgi groundhog that serves no purpose, terrible but hilarious; surviving a nuclear bomb in a fridge, terrible but hilarious; the magnetic thing that only magnets stuff half the time, terrible but hilarious; the machine that clears a path through jungle and creates a drivable surface at 50mph, terrible but hilarious. I could do this all day and not even need to bring up the aliens.
If you haven't seen any of the other movies, it's a rather good movie. If you have seen the other ones, it's the clear worst of the 4. Most of the hate comes from people that were expecting the same magic of the previous movies.
I was nine years old when Raiders came out, and loved it and the franchise throughout the first three movies. Absolutely adored Crystal Skull when it came out too. Loved the fridge scene because it was silly, hated Mutt's vine swings, because they were silly.. go figure! Still enjoy Skull as much as the other three, and never miss it out when having an Indy marathon
Felt the same way but the problem is that the vine swinging (and that whole car chase and fight) just looked like terrible CGI whereas the fridge, although unbelievable that he would survive, looks fine.
@@henriquematzenbacher9651 yeah, I get you. Funny thing is, the car chase/ fight on the ant hill I really enjoyed. Just the vine swinging section p*ssed me off. Thankfully it was a short part of the movie
If I could fan edit this film, I would cut most of the vine swinging, because I think if you did that it would work. Just show him up there following the monkeys, cut all the interluding swings, then have him burst out of the trees onto the bad guy vehicle. It was the repeated cuts back coupled with the CGI monkeys that took you out of it. I would also take out the prairie dogs for the same reason, except for the first one. One was fine, CGI wasn't great but it didn't linger. Repeated call backs to the prairie dogs just scream "This is an effects shot" every time.
I've really despised the whole "plot hole" discourse that seemed to dominate the 2010s. You're right, it's just super lazy and ignores good parts of films just to try and outsmart them and prove why they're bad, actually. I'm excited for Dial of Destiny! I've also got full faith in Mangold, and I love PWB.
Not excited for Dial of Destiny in the slightest. Just because Mangold has directed some good films in his day? That isn't a guarantee. You still have Kathleen Kennedy involved and I absolutely hated what she did with Star Wars. People criticized Kingdom saying Indy was too old then and he's now pushing 80 here. Reports have indicated they have shot several different endings and they didn't test well at all. The rumor indicates they plan to kill off Indy then have PWB step in as a new Indiana Jones. I have no desire to watch anything remotely like that. Indy is and will always be Harrison Ford. If they want a female Indiana Jones? We already have one. Her name is Lara Croft.
You can thank CinemaSins for popularizing that. And ironically, despite claiming to be 'smart', it depends on people not actually paying attention to or thinking critically about the movies they're watching and not understanding basic cinematic language.
@@Linkman247 my favourite thing about the internet is that you can say something positive and then immediately someone will just say something negative. What did you hope to achieve with that, for me to go, “oh damn you’re right, I shouldn’t be excited, my mistake”?
@@luanagullotta6218 Not sure if you realize this...but people can be critical just as you can be optimistic. Just because they share a different opinion than yours doesn't mean that their opinion is any more or any less valid than your own. If you want to be excited by all means. But that doesn't mean that everyone else has to think that Indy 5 is going to be great just because of the director they have attached. And for the record James Mangold has taken to attacking fans. Mangold attacked a fan/author for posting this on twitter... “To anyone thinking Indiana Jones 5 might be good, just let me point out… 1. Steven Spielberg is not directing. 2. Kathleen Kennedy is producing. 3. Harrison Ford is 78 years old. 4. It’s written by Jonathan Kasdan, who wrote SOLO.” Mangold replied... 1) Keep making the world a better place crapping on things in the 1st week of production from your basement. 2) Never seen a script by Jon. Nothing against him. Just reality. Butterworths & I started from a blank page. 3) 1-3 r hugely talented & all at my side.” And now Mangold is denying he ever made those tweets. boundingintocomics.com/2021/07/15/indiana-jones-5-director-james-mangold-lies-about-his-temper-tantrum-and-attacking-fans/ Where have we seen this before? Paul Feig and Ghostbusters. We've seen it with the likes of other franchises as well where the director attacks the very fans the film depends on for it to succeed. It's not exactly a recipe for success. I've just seen too many franchises get dragged through the mud now. Is it cynical? Perhaps. But Hollywood these days has given fans plenty of reasons to be cynical. Anymore it's about subverting expectations. If Hollywood actually made a film that felt like it did right by the fans and source material my expectations would be subverted. Every once in a while you do get a welcome surprise like Top Gun Maverick a sequel no one was asking for either. I say this as an Indy fan. Someone who doesn't want to see it butchered beyond recognition. The original Trilogy is in my opinion among the best action/adventure films ever made. I am sure we could probably agree on that at least? Some might prefer Raiders but Last Crusade is my favorite and I wouldn't argue with them as Raiders is fantastic too. I also say this as someone who didn't really hate Kingdom as many others did. There is plenty I liked about Kingdom. But I just look at Kennedy and Disney's track record and I am not too excited. Some felt Indy should have ended with the third and I wouldn't disagree but I do think Indy should have ended with Indy 4. Look at Back to the Future. It's a perfect trilogy. People have wanted a Back to the Future 4 and the creatives have firmly said no. "You don't want an aged Michael J. Fox with Parkinsons. I will quote the creatives here.. ""We told a complete story with the trilogy. If we went back and made another one, we'd have Michael J. Fox, who will be sixty next year, and he has Parkinson's Disease. Do we want to see Marty McFly at age sixty with Parkinson's Disease? Did we want to see him at age fifty with Parkinson's Disease? I would say 'No, you don't want to see that.' And you don't want to see Back to the Future without Michael J. Fox. People say, 'Well, do it with somebody else.' Really? Who are you going to get? All you're gonna do is beg comparisons to the originals, and you're not going to match up."- Bob Gale. When it comes to Indy I've played the game, own the films, and I have more interest in the Indy game Bethesda are working on than I do in a 5th film. If you are excited, great, hope you enjoy the film and it lives up to your expectations.
As someone who grew up on the original 3, I actually really liked crystal skull. I thought the finale was the weakest point but almost everything up to that point felt like classic Indy to me
Same here. The fridge scene was kind of goofy, but not that much more than him clinging to a U-Boat for thousands of miles or exiting a plane via an inflatable raft. IMHO, the finale just felt tacked on and rather cheap. It set a precedence for an extra-dimensional explanation which was completely out of character for the series for no particular reason. An alien might have worked, but from another dimension was a massive leap.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeThe fridge scene was intentionally goofy, it was a joke Steven Spielberg had in his mind since Back to the Future, but he never got to implement it, until Crystal Skull
Recently watched it, I love crystal skull, I might like it better than temple of doom. It also got more practical effects than people realize. The CGI is also top notch, the UFO emerging, then disappear, then the crater shapes a lake, so satisfying.
@Entertaining Black Man VideosI didn't say he was. The depictions of people in the film were racist and stereotypical. It was too dark and too gross. Of the first three it made the least money.
@Entertaining Black Man Videos The goal of Spielberg was to actually film in India but negative stereotypes prevented this. It was found offensive. The film implies that people in Indian culture eat live snakes and eyeballs, practice black magic and rip out hearts in a society that has zero restrictions. And yes, some people were gullible enough to believe that all of this truly represented how life was in India in the past.
I loved Crystal Skull, had no problem with most complaints that were thrown around just cause it was the height of the Lucas Hate Train Days. The weakest part of the movie for me was in the last act when Indy just becomes a bystander to John Hurt's character solving riddles.
This movie meant a lot to me as a kid as it came out on my birthday and was my birthday gift. I saw bits of the original movies when I was way little but it was the 4th that made me truly watch all the movies when I went to my local goodwill store and watch the VHS movies. Hadn’t seen the 4th movie over a decade and remember growing up getting annoyed how people online bashed this movie and joked Indiana being so old. With the 5th trailer’s release, i had the mood to rewatch the movies and watched the fourth movie last and…it’s still one of my favorite guilty pleasures and while I see the faults more, big time with the fridge which I thought was the same with the raft boat falling from the sky in the second movie, it’s my 2nd second favorite Indiana Jones movie as it has a lot of things I still love like the Nazca Lines, the ancient “aliens”, Roswell incident, the action and adventures, the visuals, Spalko was my 2nd favorite antagonist, and so on. It never bothered me that there’s sci-fi replacing the fantasy as I grew up with Marvel and DC having collides of them, especially when the MCU started to kick in. I can agree with the general audience it’s the weakest movie of the four while five is own its way, but for my personal list, it’s still one of my favorites.
There's definitely a weird nostalgia bias that takes hold with sequels and prequels. I don't fully understand it. But sometimes you just need to ask the youngers if THEY enjoyed it. Then you can have a better perspective.
Back when the movie was released audiences had higher expectations, they simply expected better quality from the movies back then. Now because of the overabundance of shity movies that are all the same, when we see any movie that’s relatively decent and vaguely unique, it feels refreshing. I recently re-watched glass, and if it came out today it would surely be praised, but because it came out before the superhero overflow people could see it for how bad it really was. So yes the crystal score is that bad, especially if you compare it to the trilogy it comes from, but compared to modern day movies it is not the worst thing ever.
I agree that "being better than stuff coming out now" is not a ringing endorsement that it should be re-evaluated. I feel a lot of films could use that when they are smaller budgeted or trying to be ambitious, but Crystal Skull does not. Not when it had the money and talent behind it. It was just a movie majorly credited to people who weren't interested in making a movie and more interested in catching up after so long.
@@motherplayer exactly, and I think the reason why people feel like crystal school after re-watching it is a better quality than 90% of the recent MCU movies, or The new Star Wars content, or really just any franchise movie made in the past few years, is because there is clearly heart behind it, and a lot of creativity, it just so happens to be really fucking bad. But I think when people watch movies from that time, the 2000s to the 2010s, they see a clear difference in motivation behind making the movie.
You articulated beautifully all the things I’ve been saying about this movie for years. It’s easily the weakest of the four, but I still enjoy it to this day. Great job
Recently, a few friends (late '20s, early '30s) marathon'd the Indiana Jones films because they'd never seen them - but always wanted to. Know what's funny? They loved all the films a lot but tied with 'Last Crusade' as their favourite...was 'Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'. No 18 year wait, no anti-Lucas baggage. Just enjoyment. This film is great and in real life, most I've met see it as 'another Indy film'. Online? It's been a warzone for 14 years not hating this film.
A lot of people NEED to know that when people say that it’s the worst out of the four doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s my favorite movie in my opinion of the four
No it absolutely wasn't THAT bad. People love to pick out all the bad parts and flaws of a movie, thinking that's ultimately what they only consist of. This movie was great, nowhere near as entertaining and adventurous as the previous original trilogy, but a FUN and well directed movie nonetheless. Period.
and you are correct and others arent because? if there are bad parts and flaws of movies, these things can dampen your enjoyment for it. ur literally saying its good if you ignore the bad parts, but some people just think its too much to overlook.
@@bigjawline9235 What I'm saying is people love to focus on the parts they didn't like much more heavily on the stuff they enjoyed. Are CGI monkeys and a funny fridge scene really that big of a deal? People need to get over themselves if that "dampens" their enjoyment of a movie, that's ridiculous.
I've actually been wanting to rewarch this lately since the new trailer One of the first movies I saw in cinema back in 2008 after I finally got my own car. I remember enjoying it but not loving it. And it was hard to not feel infected by the rampant hate for it since then. I honestly can't remember the last time I watched it. This really helped me get into a more open minded headspace for it
I am more than anything starting to see a trend that when people talk about the films they grow up as kids they tend to love them much more than the people who are grown up seeing the films they previously saw as children. In other words the criticisms found within the sequel trilogy of Star Wars, Indiana Jones 4, Fantastic Beasts and so on are no different than those who criticized the prequel trilogy of Star Wars, the Harry Potter films and so on. If you feel the sequel trilogy betrayed the characters you loved then you are no different than those who hated Anakin Skywalker feeling their love of Vader was betrayed. But then there are people who will say that the prequels enhanced their love for Darth Vader just as people say that their love for Luke Skywalker was enhanced in the sequel trilogy. But when it comes to these franchises that are expanding more and more, those who have never seen them end up watching them feeling indifferent because people over hyped them. It is an absolute rarity to find someone who can say they love a franchise beginning to end these days. I'm just tired of all the fighting and I wish people could be more accepting and understanding of each other.
It's not a bad movie, it just isn't quite the same as the early ones. Kinda like when the Pirates of the Caribbean series did 2 more after a closed trilogy, the add ons were fine as movies, but in comparison they fell a bit short and re-opened the ending as you mentioned. I LOVED KotCS as a kid, played the Lego videogame on the Wii, listened to the music way too often, and I still love the movie because of those connections. Kingdom didn't deserve all the hate it got, hopefully more people will come around to it when they prepare for number the final movie. And hopefully, that movie is just as good as the classic adventures and not a movie that makes KotCS look good. James is a great choice to direct, hopefully he'll deliver on a solid story and tone. Great trailer, great vibes, I can't wait to add this to Indy's roster of adventures. Plus, we get another phenomenal soundtrack to bless our ears. So happy John is on board for this last one!
Dial of Destiny made Crystal Skull look like Return of the Jedi as the ending to the series when we saw what it had in store for Indy opposed to the happy ending that Crystal Skull gave Indy.
I really enjoyed it when I watched it as a kid, and even though I'm old enough to see how stupid alot of stuff in it was I'd still hold it as one of my favorites
I remember when I first saw the film in the theater. I had read an article years before and I think it was George Lucas that said they were just looking for that perfect script. After seeing the movie my first thought was 'yikes! I wonder what the bad scripts looked like!' I thought the movie wasn't terrible, but was terribly disappointing.
In other words, you were a kid so you had no investment in the older films of the franchise and it didn't have to make sense because 'splosions cool. Got it.
@@johngrey9415 shouldn't assume I didn't have any investment in the older films haha, I did watch them many times before crystal skull and as an adult they're an iconic trilogy. What's your point here...
What wrong with Aliens? I play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis and the game was about Aliens. Beside.. I am happy with the "Happy Ending" and this it should have ended that way for the character.
I remember seeing it in the cinema as a kid, and just being thrilled that a new Indiana Jones movie was out. Watching it back as an adult now, I can see it has its problems. I still find it entertaining though!
At last. A review that has something nice to say about Crystal Skull! I grew up watching the first three and had a mixture of anticipation and trepidation when I went to see this in the cinema. My main concern was whether Harrison Ford was too old. As it turned out, I had a great time and left very happy. Ford was definitely still up to it. Sure, things like some dodgy CGI were bad points, but it is still a really fun, enjoyable movie. Fingers crossed for Indy 5.
I was in first grade when it came out. At the time , I didnt know what Indiana Jones was until I saw the three prior movies. Glad my dad introduced me to Indiana Jones
I was baffled when he complained about the part near the end where the warriors came out of the alcoves as Indy and the others are passing through. He questioned how long they were even IN those alcoves. They had to wedge themselves into these recessions in the wall, and stay there for God knows how long. Do they spend years at a time staying there, just waiting for some guy to pass by? That's quite a nitpick, isn't it? He thinks that's an example of how the movie all falls apart when you actually think about it. I think people forget how to suspend disbelief as they get older.
Just rewatched the movie and I still don't think it's as bad as every critic thought. One thing I do wish more of was more character interaction between Indy and Mutt as well as Ox(while not in a trance) and Indy. I also loved seeing the moment where you could see on Indy's face how proud he was of Mutt when he was fencing against Irina
I liked the fridge scene. It was a variation on a scene in a script called "Indiana Jones and the Saucermen from Mars." I don't even think it's the most unbelievable thing to occur in an Indiana Jones movie. I think Indy 4, Die Hard 4, Lethal Weapon 4, etc. are all over the top compared to the first three and that's fine. I hope the next one (5) is good. I hope they don't kill off Indy. I really like George Hall.
The magical and mystical stuff is unbelievable, but being magic gives it a suspension of disbelief. Everyone knows that if you are at ground zero of a nuclear blast you are going to die whether you are in a fridge or not. And being thrown hundreds of feet in the air in a fridge is also not survivable.
@@jasons5916 I'm not talking about the supernatural stuff. I'm talking things like the Nazis knowing where to set up a truck to look like a storefront and knowing Brody would just walk into it. Not that I mind that either. As for surviving a bomb, Tsutomu Yamaguchi survived two atomic bomb detonations days apart at ground zero and he lived to be 93. As far as Indy's ride in a fridge, do a TH-cam search on, "survived crash without a scratch."
@@jasons5916Japanese citizens survived mere hundreds of meters away from the epicenter of the blast. That's where duck and cover came from, interviews with survivors of atomic blasts.
Plinkett’s review of Skull is the definitive review. I say this because he not only moans about it in an entertaining way, he also offers up some truly valid solutions. Not to take away from your video as they’re different presentations. I enjoyed your video and hearing the viewpoint of a younger viewer. Especially a viewer who was “a kid” as you said when Skull came out.
I like these types of movies because they go for some fresh humor and enjoyable actions, and that you can still appreciate every character as they try to deliver something without altering the entire movie just about *them* even if they dont get much screen time and their own subplots or character development instead of being a cold stone of watching anime characters discussing and breaking down the iceberg of myths or some sneaky intention from a villain. These movies understand when to be serious and when not, and they certainly dont dump people for no logical reason just because of the "i hate you fuck off".
This film IS great - beautifully shot (arguably Spielberg's best show compositions for Indy since 'Raiders') and the style/feel of the film is so refreshing from today's art by committee content farm franchises.
1:00 "We seem to have reached the age where life stops giving us things and starts taking them away." - Dean Charles Stanforth Indiana Jones 4 essentially was a role reversal film where Indiana would be like his father when reconnecting with his family in unexpected ways. The fact that Indiana Jones became a fully realized person by now and understood the interdimensional beings treasure was knowledge is exactly how Indiana Jones measures a person's wealth after discovering his relationships with who he is close to matters most. He learned this lesson by his old age. Indiana Jones 5 will bring Indiana Jones at the twilight of his legacy. I really hope we get simply a one liner of something like, "Marion is buried where I'll be when I'm gone and Junior is in college. My days of adventure are long gone." My main problem is the action sequences of the film looked goofy as Indiana Jones 2. I love the story and characters, but part of the fun of the franchise for me is action sequences that didn't break the suspension of disbelief. Otherwise everything Indiana Jones 4 lines up as a good film that is consistent with its characters and its storyline was engaging.
To be fair, Harrison Ford was still crashing planes on golf courses and walking away unscathed at this time. So little other than the fridge was truly unrealistic.
And it begins. Just like the prequels, once Indy 5 comes out, everyone will claim they loved Indy 4 I and accuse RLM of single-handedly creating an anti-Indy 4 phenomenon.
I’ve always enjoyed this one ever since I watched it over a decade ago and still enjoy revisiting it from time to time. I put on a picture setting on my tv that seemed to give it a more natural look that made it feel like a 60’s era movie, especially the opening hanger scene. I dunno if the dvd quality lent itself to that but it really did feel like a bygone era film.
I loved ALL of the Indiana Jones movies! ... INCLUDING Crystal Skull. I think all the negativity has came from a few promenent people disliking the Aliens storyline, As if it is somehow More far fetched than magic stones or fallen angels swirling around a mythical Ark! And as is inevitable ...it is fashionable fore everyone else to jump on the ..."Hey I agree with you too" , Badwagon It was a perfectly fun action adventure film. ..... Please just be happy and enjoy these fun movies people have worked so hard to create. 😊
If it weren’t for some of the major issues (the fridge, the monkeys, and the aliens etc) I think this would have been rather well received. Probably not a change in the rankings, but less hated. There were plenty of great moments here like the fight at Area 51 and the ants
I think Indy 4's problem is mostly in it's direction. Spielberg's reliance on green screen made the characters not feel like they're really there and everything looked too clean. I know a lot of modern films do the same, but no one was used to seeing Indy that way and paired with Ford's age concerns at the time, made things less believable which draws even more attention to the less believable things the character has always done.
I remember seeing crystal skull in the theaters and hearing an audible gasp of disgust across the theater when Mutt swung on the monkey vines. When Marion drove off the cliff, there was a further but minor commotion.
I loved it as a kid, it came out at just the right time with the Lego sets and games and everything, I had a whole Indy phase as a kid. As a lot of people have already said here it came out at that time where hating the prequels was big and such so it definitely got way more hate than it deserved
Same here. Saw it in theaters when I was 10, and became obsessed lol I saved my money for all the Lego sets, the one with the tree cutter vehicle and amphibious truck was the coolest 😂
GOD your video was such a breath of fresh air. Since 2008 (when I was 8) I too, fucking loved this movie. Still do! even after growing up and accepting its meriad of flaws. It always made it such a drag to read all the hate and vitriol towards it. Even now, I couldnt find a single video on Indy 5 that didnt spend 10 minutes of an intro to remind the audience of how "godaweful" indy 4 is. Its always been a fun indy adventure, just the same as the rest of them. Love the perspective you gave to the whole thing!
Honestly, I simply enjoy watching the opening scene of the drag race set to "Hound Dog". The camera work, the composition, the storytelling... I've always thought of it fondly as a slick, fun conglomeration of Americana tucked into the film as a love letter to the time period. And the aspect of the scene where, for a brief moment, enemies (whether they realize it or not) become kindred spirits has always given me a warm and fuzzy feeling in my tum tum.
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I'm not like a big Indy fan or anything and I haven't analyzed the movies that much at all, but I've always seen Crystal Skull as my favorite thanks to its incredible action and set pieces. I also really liked Mutt and the older Indy. Additionally, as someone who likes space, aliens and science more than the religious artifacts in the other movies, the narrative is just naturally going to appeal more to me as well. I see a lot of the criticism against this movie much the same of any other despised sequel of a beloved property (take your pick), where it's really not as bad as people say and usually a lot of people's criticisms apply to some extent to the originals as well if they would just take their rose-tinted glasses off. Rise of Skywalker not included as you pointed out yourself.
I think the criticisms about destroying the Jungle Cutter are fair, as it would have made the scene exponentially more interesting to actually blow up everyone's chances of moving large vehicles any deeper into the Jungle. With no road forwards, Indy could then highjack the truck and high-speed reverse it down the dirt path, using only his mirrors to drive everything back to front. You could homage the truck scene from Raiders but entirely in reverse-gear. "We're never gonna lose 'em if we stay on this track!" "There's no abundance of turnoffs out here son!" "So what's your plan Gramps, just keep on until the clutch burns out?" "Buckle up." "What?!" "BELT. NOW" *Indy handbrake turns it off the road and drives nose-first into a deathly-bumpy hill, covered in rocks and foliage* The Soviets slam their brakes on, refusing to follow him off the road, yelling in Russian: "Is he nuts?!" - "He's not nuts, he's crazy!"
If people think Indy 4 is disappointing, they never read the novel Indiana Jones and the seven veils. Aside from a fantastic opening sequence, that book gets so convoluted and confusing that after I finished it I genuinely had no idea what was going on for the most part
The books got really bizarre in places. Invisible cities, alternate dimensions, living dinosaurs, and a book that tells everyone how long they will live. Crystal Skull was pretty tame by comparison.
@@astrosquirrel5038 The Books and Comics though are not very well known and popular even among Indy fans who will just mainly watch the movies especially when compared to star wars when media like books comic and video games are as popular and successful as the movies and Tv shows
I just finished re-reading all those Indy novels. Some were good, some were a little confusing, and some just seemed to jump around the world for no reason. The ones written by Martin Caiden were longer, and he also went into way too much detail about airplanes and flight (he is/was a pilot, so I guess it was him showing off?) Also, some novels went PAGES talking about a character's backstory, which could have been done through dialogue so it would be less clunky storywise. Who wants to read pages about a character who isn't even a main character of what they did before the story started?
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You are either a shill or have extraordinary bad taste if you like Indy 4 and are hyped for Indy 5. Indy 4 was maybe fine as a movie on itself but absolute dog shit as an Indy movie. And Lucasfilm hasn't got any better. Instead it's now so infested with woke political zealot activist paracites; the scum of the earth, that I don't expect anything even remotely watchable coming out of that studio.
Your logic really isn't persuasive here, and the movie is definitely not a good one. Happy you enjoyed it, but what's the point of making a video like this? To convince the naysayers? To give confirmation bias to those who like it? If the former, then it doesn't do it. If the latter, then, sure. Have at it
The director means nothing when the writer is a woke activist. Just look at what happened with Doctor strange even though it was directed by Sam Raimi
Simmmmp
Temple of Doom is the worst in the series
My only real problem with the movie was that I enjoyed the first half so much that I felt a little disappointed when the second half turned into more of a standard Indy fare. A part of me kinda wishes the film just fully committed to the 50’s sci fi B-movie aesthetic. The action in the Amazon and Peru is still fun though.
That was the original plan. Lucas was ready to go all in
When I last re watched it that's how I felt. I kinda wanted more science fiction / aliens stuff.
Your only real problem... is half the movie LMAO
I’m with you, first half is great. Second half is just a bit much for me.
It's extremely rare you'll find an 'infamously' "bad" movie to be anywhere near as bad as you've been told by the same few hipsters on the Internet.
This is no longer about the quality of the film. There's a narrative now, that wouldn't be as pleasing to these snowflakes, if the movie was admitted to be better than they've made it out. That narrative people are so in love with wouldn't hold up.
The bottom line is, ITS COOL TO DISLIKE THIS MOVIE. People are petrified of not fitting in and being seen as an outcast or freak. So, in all of our pathetic nature, most people hear that a movie sucks a couple times by a vocal minority, and in order to "fit in" they'll naturally want to go along with that narrative instead of being viewed as wrong or different.
This happens WAYYYYY more with movies and shows than anybody is willing to admit or acknowledge. If you somehow got those insecure cowards to give up their ACTUAL REAL opinions on the movie, this would be a totally fkn different story and that's just a fact.
My whole cinema loved the movie. Same with force awakens, superman returns. Man of steel. All movies that it's cool to hate. You fit in better at work and school if you join in the whinging and complaining about movies such as these.
It's a hugely sad truth.
I have a soft spot for Crystal Skull as it was the first Indiana Jones film I saw and it got me to become a fan of the franchise.
Oh my God yes!
That's exactly what happened with me as well and for that it holds a place in my heart
@@Whipmaster-t9hme too. It was on a personal sad day for my family and watching it with my dad was a great escape from the reality: it was also the first Indy movie on Blu-ray since the 2003 Indy dvd set
Me as well i saw the trilogy after it
I personally prefer Skull over Temple of Doom and the recently kinda awful Dial of Destiny. Feel like Kingdom gets way too much criticism all basing around the nuclear scene, the jungle vine swinging, the ending. Alot of the hate is overblown imo
Learning about the history of the "nuclear fridge" scene really helped me appreciate it as a dumb pulpy moment put in by Spielberg.
In the original script for 'Back to the Future', the only way for Marty to get enough power to return home is to withstand a nuclear blast... by hiding in a lead-lined refrigerator. Spielberg liked the idea and it was a sort of screenwriting "in-joke" for decades until he finally put it into Kingdom of the Crystal skull.
For some people one bad bite can spoil a whole meal. For me, I love that it's a throwback, but overall the movie is still pretty good either way.
Thanks for the information! That’s hilarious and it’s almost funny enough for me to forgive the ridiculousness of the incident. Almost.
I had never heard that before. That's amazing.
I mean it is possible to survive in a fridge just very unlikely 🥶
The Crystal Skull online discourse was a harbinger of how virtually every new entry in a well-established franchise is treated, regardless of quality. It’s also disturbingly similar to how a lot of non-pop-culture topics are treated online these days.
Nicely put.
Fun fact: originally, Lucas wanted Indy to have a daughter, but Spielberg vetoed that idea because he felt people would find it too similar to The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Regardless, I feel that they shouldn't have revealed Mutt as Indy's biological son. They should have kept him as just Marion's kid whom she had with the man she married - you know, show Indy what he could have had if he had stayed with Marion. And by the end, he becomes Mutt's new father figure. Feel free to disagree, but in my opinion that would have been more interesting.
In the young Indiana Jones series, we know that he has a daughter. But, I know, that the parts of "old Indy" are no canon today.
I fundamentally differ, as one goal of Mutt was to Indy see himself in his son, to repeat what his relationship with his own father was like.
I’ve seen this movie countless times and even 4 in theater when I was 8. I fully stand by what you’re saying here as the idea of him not being present in his sons life or never talking to Marion again just feels out of character. I understand he’s a globe trotting adventurer who doesn’t have time for a relationship but he was close with people she knew prior to raiders even and their chemistry felt more like actual love than any of the others.
or just leave it ambiguous. A mystery. Part of Indy’s mystique is the mystery. Like sure you got a bit of back story in Last Crusade, but nothing more
Oh I agree. I didn't have a problem with Shia Lebouf. It was the writing of his character. Mutt was homage to 50s bikers. But he played it in a dorky kind of way. Lol. Plus the scene with the swinging monkeys. I cringe thinking about it. But overall, being a sci-fi genre fan, I liked the storyline. The marriage at the end was good. Not as special as The Last Crusade riding off into the sunset ending though.
I have the feeling after "Dial of Destiny" comes out, "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" will somehow be the perfect sequel all of a sudden, praised as the perfect "happily ever after" with Indy's marriage to Marion.
I also feel like people will get divisive about which is the better epilogue to the original Indy trilogy, between 4 or 5.
Time will tell.
I have no expectations for the movie itself, and am looking forward to riding the ride.
Yeah like the Star Wars prequel’s
The Last Crusade is already a perfect ending to the Indiana Jones trilogy.
@@reek4062 It's funny though, because despite "perfect endings", people always want more.
@@papameeloI still fee like the prequels do better than KotCS simply because of the memes. Think of classics like “I don’t like sand,” “A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one,” or “This is where the fun begins,” and then try to think of popular memes related to this movie.
There aren’t many.
I'm gonna keep this in mind. Thanks.
It was never THAT bad. In fact I think much of the anger towards it was performative. The prequels basically created the TH-cam film critique sphere and that kind of 'overstating flaws' critique needs to go over the top to create engagement. Having Lucas' name on it just fueled it.
Indy 4 was the band coming back and being slightly out of tune but still being a heck of a lot of fun to hang out with!
I agree!
Agreed! All 4 Indy movies are outstanding in there own ways. Love the games also. Not sure about this new Dial of Destiny… we’ll find out tho🤞
What about all the people like me who just hated the movie, I'm not performing for anyone. I hate it, my friends hate it. We found it boring, derivative, poorly written, boring and generally ill-conceived. I hated the idea of it, I watched it when it came out and I didn't like it the whole way through. Are you just going to no true Scotsman away all the people like me?
It was horrible compared to the others yea. 6 out of 10.
Idk if it's not actually bad or if blockbusters are so terrible now that it looks better in retrospect but either way I had fun with it on rewatch
This movie has been taking SUCH a beating on the internet for YEARS now, and it's always frustrated me a bit. I've always enjoyed it just as much as the other 3, and I'm really glad to see someone else give a different take on it.
I never hated this movie. I actually quite liked, and found the fridge scene very memorable and fun. Although, I can see why it gets so much hate.
Yea people ALWAYS point to that scene, which is about 2 minutes long. It's stupid as hell but it has no impact on the rest of the film. It really is a 6 or 7 out of 10 fun but flawed film.
The issue people have with the fridge seen ignores the other incredibly unlikely things that happened in the other films. Riding for weeks on the outside of a u-boat without drowning or dying of exposure? Using a raft to fall out of a plain and over some massive cliffs?
The main issue IMHO is the cheap ending that isn't prepared for earlier in the movies.
That’s the thing - I can’t see why 💁♂️
@@adriandenton6637I feel like that’s kind of the reason people don’t like the scene: it’s goofy, completely pointless, and longer than it should be. If you combine the first two, but make them short and sweet, they can work, but the nuclear fridge just kinda overstayed its welcome (I wouldn’t say that it’s that much more unrealistic than anything from the previous movies, as some are wont to say, but perhaps that’s just my personal taste)
It's like, why would anyone care about the crystal skull, when they have a magical fridge that grants invulnerability - it seems much more impressive than the title artifact.
I think its worth mentioning that while Harrison Ford was 64 when Crystal Skull came out, Indy is technically 58. This will also be the case for the new film as well as it takes place in 1969 meaning Indy would be 70 not almost 80 like Ford in real life. I think knowing this has made the action more believable I guess considering the character is technically younger than the actor.
After watching this video last night, I decided to put myself up to a challenge: to watch Indy 4 until I got bored of the film, or until I felt that the movie broke the feel of the original three-
I ended up watching the whole movie.
It’s just as enjoyable as the rest. I may not love it like I do Raiders, but it’s definitely going to be added to my future Indiana Jones marathons. It’s damn fun.
I was going to comment something similar. A few weeks ago I started watching just to see the Area 51 part, and finished the movie enjoyably. The last third was relatively underwhelming, but I had a smile the whole time. It felt great, as this was the first movie I remember leaving the theatre feeling disappointed by as a kid.
Wonderful to see this vid and read comments from people having similar experiences.
Same kind of thing, they started playing all four movies on Film4 last year, one movie each day. I remember watching Kingdom just to kill time and ended up really enjoying it
Tons of fun. Not on the level of Raiders or Crusade by any means but it edges out Temple for my money
I really think the sequel trilogy existing has made people just look back on previous revivals that were panned in the past and just say "Maybe we had it good back then".
Heck this movie introduces the younger replacement character but at the end Indy takes back the hat to tell us the audience no one can replace Indiana Jones. Which considering the track record of modern day franchise revivals is just so refreshing.
The movie isn’t terrible.
One thing I hope they do with Dial of Destiny is that they make a Drew Struzan type poster to go with it. All four other films have a Struzan cover/poster and the upcoming one should as well.
It won’t lucasfilm doesn’t care about quality
@@damiantirado9616 And you "doesn't car" about spelling and grammar LMAO
@@BloodyMunchkin lol what a nerd. I was writing fast and sometimes due to shitty auto correct stuff are misspelled.
Idk if you saw but Drew tweeted out the other day a gif of Indy from Raiders “start the engine!” with the caption “me every time I’m asked if I’m coming out of retirement…”
@@BloodyMunchkin oooh-whee, he left out an 'e'
wow, what a burn
My brother & I actually love this movie.
Reasons:
- This was a Indiana Jones film, not bait & switch with Mutt
- Cast was good, i absolutely loved Kate Blanchett being evil with a funny accent 👑
- It had some ridiculous scenes like the nuclear bomb, the warehouse scene, the waterfall scene, the horrific ant scene, the aliens, we laughed hard at the spider monkey Tarzan scene. Silly, but very joyable to watch.
- They brought back old characters & i actually loved the aesthetic of it 🙌
This aged well for me and they could've continued it with recasted Indy. This was a very cool film ✌️
I really like the warehouse scene. It's my favorite opening behind Raiders and Crusade.
the Aliens were done well when you learn of the historical context it's being based off of
Yes. Crysral Skull is quite underrated. It is the worst of the four, but sure it wiil be reevaluated after IJ5.
I'd still rate Temple of Doom lower but I really, really don't like that one.
Before someone @s me, racist, terrible grossout humor, ugly, needlessly gory, nonsensical plot, overly nihilistic, Willy sucks hard, terrible waterfall scene, uninspired performances. I do like the intro, Short Round, and the minecart tho.
@@positivetakes5592 No need to justify your feelings on it, you are spot on! Even Spielberg regrets a number of culturally insensitive moments & decisions in Temple of Doom. They thought that because they were riffing on cheap adventure serials of the 30s they could get away with recreating terribly racist and insulting tropes.
@@positivetakes5592 With respect, I disagree. While there might've been a misrepresentation of Hindu deities (like making Khali explicitly evil, and the voodoo doll), there was an established difference between the village Indy first meets and Pankot Palace. The fact it's so gross and clearly messed up is supposed to indicate there's something wrong with the place (I mean, just look at the totem of human fingers practically hanging on the front door). So, I guess I don't get the racism complaint.
The plot is clearly laid out with the villain's scheme of collecting the stones, and Indy coincidentally landing there to deal with it can be handwaved by divine intervention (which we know exists in the universe). Willy, I digress. She toughened up by the end and landed a solid punch on a goon.
Nihilistic? Once you get past the sacrifice scene, it has one of the most uplifting climaxes and endings of the original 3 movies (Raiders is kind of cynical with the Ark being put in the warehouse), with Indy having an intense fight with the slave driver and returning the children to their parents.
I'm not saying it's my favorite, but I call it underrated. The discussion of British colonialism in India and the very real thuggee movement was also very interesting from the historical standpoint, in my opinion.
@@HyraxusPrimus I appreciate your perspective. However I would say that racism isn't only surface level and can also be about influence on an audience. And things like showing the PM to be in league with the bad guy, or diminishing the villagers to simply victims (rather than multifaceted humans), Indy's portrayal as a white savior, the claim that monkey brains is traditional Indian food (it isn't, Indian food is delicious), and yeah, very questionable interpretations of Hinduism, not to mention short round or the representation of the Hong Kong gangsters, are all these things influence the non-critical viewer's perception of the real India. In fairness, the representation of Germans in the other movies is also pretty racist but considered acceptable because... you know. As are the South Americans in part one.
This can be summed up by remembering one key point: NOBODY hates anything more than its own fans. Regardless of what it is, that will always apply. Some (not all) get so obsessed with something it is subsumed as part of their identity so if one aspect changes or takes a path different than they expected it becomes a personal attack on their own sense of self.
Yeah there's definitely a contingent that doesn't want to see old characters in anything new.
It's SOOOOO refreshing to see a reasonable, non-hyperbolic-angry-dweeb take about this film. As it ages, the outrage about the film just feels more and more performative.
I agree that the film itself probably has the messiest script of the 4, but it has TONS of heart, amazing action we simply don't see much of today, and you can tell Spielberg and Co. were just having fun.
So people who call out shit movies are hyperbolic angry dweebs to you? Whatever, sheeple shill.
dont have to be angry dweeb to dislike crystal skull.
It’s a fun time with just kind of messy pacing. It still feels like Indiana Jones and I’ll never understand why people act like it’s the death of the franchise.
at this point i feel like people say its bad just to not look silly
I actually enjoyed it except for the end. It was such a cliche climax. Oh wow, they found the big mystery, only for it to self destruct, kill the last of the baddies in the process, and then disappear without a trace. Never saw that before!
So happy to see more positivity regarding Crystal Skull! I always thought it was a really fun movie and a lot of its "flaws" were stylistic choices trying to emulate 50s sci-fi that was driven by auteurs like Spielberg and Lucas (as opposed to by a corporate committee like so many sequels are nowadays)
Whatever you want to say about the movie, everyone should agree that ant kill is iconic.
The ant bit is so good
And terrifying seeing it as a kid lol
These ants must give a good meal
Thank you for this video.
I saw this film with my dad when it was new. It was half of my lifetime ago, and I still love it to this day. I always get laughed at by my friends telling me it’s “such a bad movie” because “aliens in Indy just doesn’t work” and you’ve addressed all of those points perfectly.
It’s not a groundbreaking addition to the Indy franchise, but it’s not this abhorrent piece of garbage that people treat it like.
I have very fond vivid memories of seeing this movie as a kid, it has its problems but it has a special place in my heart
FACTS
Especially playing the Lego game of it
@@lvnar5734 ive been looking for this comment, glad you feel the same
I never thought it was that bad. It's another fun, absurd adventure with Indy at a different stage in life and a story that fits with the time period. And seeing him end up with Marion was awesome. Never liked Shia LaBeouf being in it but other than that it's an enjoyable continuation of Indy's story
I remember watching this film for the first time. My dad and uncle, who were the biggest Indy fans on the planet, took me and my brother out of town to this beautiful, expensive cinema with leather seats and an actual food cart in the screen itself, which is rare for a British cinema. That was one of my most memorable film experiences but my dad and uncle were both crushed after seeing the film as they were quite disappointed.
Me personally, I was happy with it 👍
Food cart in the screen? What does that mean?
@@ssssssssssssssssss50 There was a sort of cart on wheels in the screen itself where you could get popcorn and drinks. You don't usually see that in British Cinemas
@@sealionstudios8597 I can’t comprehend how the cart on wheels was in the screen that the film was projected on and am so curious right now. Looked it but but didn’t find anything. Regardless, I am really glad you have such fond memories of the film
@@ssssssssssssssssss50 he meant in the screening, how do you not get this? Screening=cinema, there was a food cart in the theatre is that easier to get? Not sure if I worded this any better
@@Planless_Dutchman nobody in the US has ever heard of a film screening being referred to as a "screen" i wouldn't doubt it's uncommon in other places in the world too. i learned it for the first time reading this comment thread. saying "in the screen" gives people like us the impression that the movie is played/projected over top of it and you're meant to walk up in front of the movie and annoy other viewers whenever you want popcorn or a sodie-pop
remember. when people say Indiana Jones 4 is bad they lie.
they say the refridgerator scene is bad but they're totally ok with a woman sacrificed to fire and not getting burned.
they hate shia labeouf character but they're totally ok with the sidekick kid with no story.
they complain about the aliens but they're totally ok with the ghosts from the box.
and etc. every IJ movie has the same formula. that is why every IJ movie is a non stop perfect entertaining action adventure movie.
these haters are just some sad aging people.
I've always loved the 4th one. There's way too much hate for it, it's so fun to watch.
Nope the originals are better then the crap crystal skull
@@martinlee7102 lmao, I never said it was better than the originals.
@@martinlee7102have you ever been punched in the head really bad?
I’ve always found crystal skull underrated. I enjoyed it as a kid. Even when my little brother watched Indiana Jones for the first time, I showed him crystal skull and didn’t tell him they had made it 19 years later and that Indy was older. I simply put it on for him as the next adventure and he enjoyed it the most out of all of them at the time which was interesting. I enjoy it more than temple of doom myself. I would say the only things that bring it down are the nuke scene and mutt swinging with monkeys.
Despite my many issues with the film, I completely agree that the bashing of the NUKE THE FRIDGE scene is ridiculous. I honestly loved it: It's one of those classic action moments where you keep thinking "How in the world is he going to survive THAT?".
I think the sequence would have been received far, far better with a rather easy fix: If, when the fridge landed and the door opened, he looked severely beaten up. Like, near-death beaten up. Yes, it would still be a completely unrealistic moment - but at least you would feel the severity of the ordeal.
Yeah I think it’s the fact it flies across the sky and he’s still standing afterwards but then again he jumps out of a plane on a raft in Temple and is absolutely fine so I think people really pick and choose what’s “unrealistic” and what isn’t
Yea, it's 2 minutes long, who cares. It makes me laugh how throwaway it is.
@@FullFatVideos Because dropping from a plane on a raft and surviving, while ridiculous, is not out of the realm of possibility. People have survived failed skydives from several kilometers up with minor injuries. Being in a refrigerator a fraction of a mile from a miniature fucking sun and not being vaporized, or condemned to terminal radiation sickness, on account of being inside a lead-lined refrigerator? Please. That's a bullshit equivocation.
I think it would have been similar to his falling off the cliff in Crusade, which is fun and he looks beat up after, even having to take a second to rest on the ground
It's the impossibility that kills it for me. No freaking lead fridge would make you survive a nuclear blast!! It's just not comparable to jumping out of a plane in a boat or falling down.a cliff or something. It just doesn't work. And yeah, the bad cgi throughout the film doesn't hep either.
Its way better than Dial of Diarrhea
Honestly as I had only seen the films during a month long period weeks ago, for the first time...I enjoyed Temple best, and Crystal Skull, while not as well made as the prior films- I rated higher. I enjoyed it quite a lot, especially the campy performance of Blanchett and the return of Karen Allen! The time period was fun as well. And I was quite tired of the Nazi villains...anything other than that.
You’ll love to know the new one sees them return lmao
I suspect Temple plays better today than at the time because we're used to movies having very rapid pacing these days. At the time, one of the most common criticisms of Temple was that it was too fast-paced and "exhausting" to watch. Today, movies whose entire final hour is nonstop action are pretty standard.
@@jasonblalock4429 I found the female character very annoying (unfortunately) but the darkness of the plot was so interesting to me and Short Round!! Love him!
@@JaiProdz Yeah, Kate Capshaw is pretty much universally considered the worst part of Temple. BTW, did you realize that Short Round is the same guy who played Waymond in Everything Everywhere All At Once?
@@jasonblalock4429 not until I finished the film. And then I saw the photo of them reunited and I wished Ke Huy Quan could've been in the upcoming film :(
Maybe it's still possible.
There is no way you can tell me that the fridge is worse than using a raft as a parachute in ToD.
It’s always been silly!
@@FullFatVideos The raft is easily more silly! At least in Crystal Skull, you can say that he survived because he drank from the Holy Grail. In ToD, three people fell out of a plane and hit the side of a mountain. And survived.
No no the nuke the fridge scene is still dumb because hed be mush but he didnt, also eveb if u could survive whatsver that fall was u would get radiation poisoning because he wss in the blast radius ans furthermore was still close to it
@@jarrodedson5441 The raft scene was worse. They fell out of a plane, onto the side of a mountain. There is no surviving that.
Its interesting to see the "conclusion" of these great movie heroes: Daniel Craig's James Bond, Maverick from Top Gun, and now Indiana Jones!
Yeah it makes me very intrigued to see what happens next. What will be the action heroes of the future and next generations. What movies now will be the classics that get nostalgia bait legacy sequels with cast members nearing their 90s. As a fan of movies you don't want your favorite franchise to end, but you don't want them to become something you don't enjoy. Movies need to keep moving forward and growing or else they will stagnate and die, something no one wants. All and all I'm very interested to see what comes next.
It's one of my favorite awful movies. The vine swinging, terrible but hilarious; the ants that eat a person in 3 seconds, terrible but hilarious; the cgi groundhog that serves no purpose, terrible but hilarious; surviving a nuclear bomb in a fridge, terrible but hilarious; the magnetic thing that only magnets stuff half the time, terrible but hilarious; the machine that clears a path through jungle and creates a drivable surface at 50mph, terrible but hilarious. I could do this all day and not even need to bring up the aliens.
So refreshing to see someone actually being positive about this movie!
If you haven't seen any of the other movies, it's a rather good movie. If you have seen the other ones, it's the clear worst of the 4. Most of the hate comes from people that were expecting the same magic of the previous movies.
Agreed ❤
I was nine years old when Raiders came out, and loved it and the franchise throughout the first three movies. Absolutely adored Crystal Skull when it came out too. Loved the fridge scene because it was silly, hated Mutt's vine swings, because they were silly.. go figure! Still enjoy Skull as much as the other three, and never miss it out when having an Indy marathon
Felt the same way but the problem is that the vine swinging (and that whole car chase and fight) just looked like terrible CGI whereas the fridge, although unbelievable that he would survive, looks fine.
@@henriquematzenbacher9651 yeah, I get you. Funny thing is, the car chase/ fight on the ant hill I really enjoyed. Just the vine swinging section p*ssed me off. Thankfully it was a short part of the movie
If I could fan edit this film, I would cut most of the vine swinging, because I think if you did that it would work. Just show him up there following the monkeys, cut all the interluding swings, then have him burst out of the trees onto the bad guy vehicle. It was the repeated cuts back coupled with the CGI monkeys that took you out of it. I would also take out the prairie dogs for the same reason, except for the first one. One was fine, CGI wasn't great but it didn't linger. Repeated call backs to the prairie dogs just scream "This is an effects shot" every time.
I've really despised the whole "plot hole" discourse that seemed to dominate the 2010s. You're right, it's just super lazy and ignores good parts of films just to try and outsmart them and prove why they're bad, actually.
I'm excited for Dial of Destiny! I've also got full faith in Mangold, and I love PWB.
My guy!
Not excited for Dial of Destiny in the slightest. Just because Mangold has directed some good films in his day? That isn't a guarantee. You still have Kathleen Kennedy involved and I absolutely hated what she did with Star Wars. People criticized Kingdom saying Indy was too old then and he's now pushing 80 here. Reports have indicated they have shot several different endings and they didn't test well at all. The rumor indicates they plan to kill off Indy then have PWB step in as a new Indiana Jones. I have no desire to watch anything remotely like that. Indy is and will always be Harrison Ford. If they want a female Indiana Jones? We already have one. Her name is Lara Croft.
You can thank CinemaSins for popularizing that. And ironically, despite claiming to be 'smart', it depends on people not actually paying attention to or thinking critically about the movies they're watching and not understanding basic cinematic language.
@@Linkman247 my favourite thing about the internet is that you can say something positive and then immediately someone will just say something negative. What did you hope to achieve with that, for me to go, “oh damn you’re right, I shouldn’t be excited, my mistake”?
@@luanagullotta6218 Not sure if you realize this...but people can be critical just as you can be optimistic. Just because they share a different opinion than yours doesn't mean that their opinion is any more or any less valid than your own. If you want to be excited by all means. But that doesn't mean that everyone else has to think that Indy 5 is going to be great just because of the director they have attached.
And for the record James Mangold has taken to attacking fans. Mangold attacked a fan/author for posting this on twitter...
“To anyone thinking Indiana Jones 5 might be good, just let me point out…
1. Steven Spielberg is not directing.
2. Kathleen Kennedy is producing.
3. Harrison Ford is 78 years old.
4. It’s written by Jonathan Kasdan, who wrote SOLO.”
Mangold replied...
1) Keep making the world a better place crapping on things in the 1st week of production from your basement.
2) Never seen a script by Jon. Nothing against him. Just reality. Butterworths & I started from a blank page.
3) 1-3 r hugely talented & all at my side.”
And now Mangold is denying he ever made those tweets.
boundingintocomics.com/2021/07/15/indiana-jones-5-director-james-mangold-lies-about-his-temper-tantrum-and-attacking-fans/
Where have we seen this before? Paul Feig and Ghostbusters. We've seen it with the likes of other franchises as well where the director attacks the very fans the film depends on for it to succeed. It's not exactly a recipe for success.
I've just seen too many franchises get dragged through the mud now. Is it cynical? Perhaps. But Hollywood these days has given fans plenty of reasons to be cynical. Anymore it's about subverting expectations. If Hollywood actually made a film that felt like it did right by the fans and source material my expectations would be subverted.
Every once in a while you do get a welcome surprise like Top Gun Maverick a sequel no one was asking for either.
I say this as an Indy fan. Someone who doesn't want to see it butchered beyond recognition. The original Trilogy is in my opinion among the best action/adventure films ever made. I am sure we could probably agree on that at least? Some might prefer Raiders but Last Crusade is my favorite and I wouldn't argue with them as Raiders is fantastic too.
I also say this as someone who didn't really hate Kingdom as many others did. There is plenty I liked about Kingdom. But I just look at Kennedy and Disney's track record and I am not too excited. Some felt Indy should have ended with the third and I wouldn't disagree but I do think Indy should have ended with Indy 4. Look at Back to the Future. It's a perfect trilogy. People have wanted a Back to the Future 4 and the creatives have firmly said no. "You don't want an aged Michael J. Fox with Parkinsons. I will quote the creatives here..
""We told a complete story with the trilogy. If we went back and made another one, we'd have Michael J. Fox, who will be sixty next year, and he has Parkinson's Disease. Do we want to see Marty McFly at age sixty with Parkinson's Disease? Did we want to see him at age fifty with Parkinson's Disease? I would say 'No, you don't want to see that.' And you don't want to see Back to the Future without Michael J. Fox. People say, 'Well, do it with somebody else.' Really? Who are you going to get? All you're gonna do is beg comparisons to the originals, and you're not going to match up."- Bob Gale.
When it comes to Indy I've played the game, own the films, and I have more interest in the Indy game Bethesda are working on than I do in a 5th film. If you are excited, great, hope you enjoy the film and it lives up to your expectations.
As someone who grew up on the original 3, I actually really liked crystal skull. I thought the finale was the weakest point but almost everything up to that point felt like classic Indy to me
This is spot on
Same here. The fridge scene was kind of goofy, but not that much more than him clinging to a U-Boat for thousands of miles or exiting a plane via an inflatable raft.
IMHO, the finale just felt tacked on and rather cheap. It set a precedence for an extra-dimensional explanation which was completely out of character for the series for no particular reason. An alien might have worked, but from another dimension was a massive leap.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade the fridge scene was very cool, i don't care it didn't make sense
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeThe fridge scene was intentionally goofy, it was a joke Steven Spielberg had in his mind since Back to the Future, but he never got to implement it, until Crystal Skull
Recently watched it, I love crystal skull, I might like it better than temple of doom. It also got more practical effects than people realize. The CGI is also top notch, the UFO emerging, then disappear, then the crater shapes a lake, so satisfying.
Temple of Doom is far better than Crystal Skull
I honestly like Crystal Skull way more than Temple of Doom. It might be nostalgia, but what does it matter, as long as I enjoy it XD
If you like a dark, gross, racist vehicle for Spielberg's at the time mistress.
@Entertaining Black Man VideosI didn't say he was. The depictions of people in the film were racist and stereotypical. It was too dark and too gross. Of the first three it made the least money.
@Entertaining Black Man Videos The goal of Spielberg was to actually film in India but negative stereotypes prevented this. It was found offensive. The film implies that people in Indian culture eat live snakes and eyeballs, practice black magic and rip out hearts in a society that has zero restrictions. And yes, some people were gullible enough to believe that all of this truly represented how life was in India in the past.
I honestly cannot understand how anyone can hate Indy's son in this movie and be okay with Willie Scott in Temple Of Doom at the same time
I loved Crystal Skull, had no problem with most complaints that were thrown around just cause it was the height of the Lucas Hate Train Days. The weakest part of the movie for me was in the last act when Indy just becomes a bystander to John Hurt's character solving riddles.
This movie meant a lot to me as a kid as it came out on my birthday and was my birthday gift. I saw bits of the original movies when I was way little but it was the 4th that made me truly watch all the movies when I went to my local goodwill store and watch the VHS movies. Hadn’t seen the 4th movie over a decade and remember growing up getting annoyed how people online bashed this movie and joked Indiana being so old. With the 5th trailer’s release, i had the mood to rewatch the movies and watched the fourth movie last and…it’s still one of my favorite guilty pleasures and while I see the faults more, big time with the fridge which I thought was the same with the raft boat falling from the sky in the second movie, it’s my 2nd second favorite Indiana Jones movie as it has a lot of things I still love like the Nazca Lines, the ancient “aliens”, Roswell incident, the action and adventures, the visuals, Spalko was my 2nd favorite antagonist, and so on. It never bothered me that there’s sci-fi replacing the fantasy as I grew up with Marvel and DC having collides of them, especially when the MCU started to kick in. I can agree with the general audience it’s the weakest movie of the four while five is own its way, but for my personal list, it’s still one of my favorites.
There's definitely a weird nostalgia bias that takes hold with sequels and prequels. I don't fully understand it. But sometimes you just need to ask the youngers if THEY enjoyed it. Then you can have a better perspective.
Back when the movie was released audiences had higher expectations, they simply expected better quality from the movies back then. Now because of the overabundance of shity movies that are all the same, when we see any movie that’s relatively decent and vaguely unique, it feels refreshing. I recently re-watched glass, and if it came out today it would surely be praised, but because it came out before the superhero overflow people could see it for how bad it really was. So yes the crystal score is that bad, especially if you compare it to the trilogy it comes from, but compared to modern day movies it is not the worst thing ever.
I agree that "being better than stuff coming out now" is not a ringing endorsement that it should be re-evaluated. I feel a lot of films could use that when they are smaller budgeted or trying to be ambitious, but Crystal Skull does not. Not when it had the money and talent behind it. It was just a movie majorly credited to people who weren't interested in making a movie and more interested in catching up after so long.
@@motherplayer exactly, and I think the reason why people feel like crystal school after re-watching it is a better quality than 90% of the recent MCU movies, or The new Star Wars content, or really just any franchise movie made in the past few years, is because there is clearly heart behind it, and a lot of creativity, it just so happens to be really fucking bad. But I think when people watch movies from that time, the 2000s to the 2010s, they see a clear difference in motivation behind making the movie.
You articulated beautifully all the things I’ve been saying about this movie for years. It’s easily the weakest of the four, but I still enjoy it to this day. Great job
Thank you!
I enjoy a good shit but I don’t ask people to pay to see it on the big screen punk
“I can’t believe they put him in jail, I thought that movie was pretty good.”
- Butters Stotch, 2008.
*That scene of the Russian soldier getting consumed by fire ants genuinely scared the shit out of me as a child.*
Temple of doom was my favorite of the trilogy and as a kid going into crystal skull it felt like a genuine pick up. It was so much fun
Recently, a few friends (late '20s, early '30s) marathon'd the Indiana Jones films because they'd never seen them - but always wanted to. Know what's funny? They loved all the films a lot but tied with 'Last Crusade' as their favourite...was 'Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'. No 18 year wait, no anti-Lucas baggage. Just enjoyment. This film is great and in real life, most I've met see it as 'another Indy film'. Online? It's been a warzone for 14 years not hating this film.
Further proof young people are idiots!
@@shanequastunningbrave5376 - We will get off your lawn, don't worry.
@@braytonwright6011 I'm sure you'll do a tiktok of dancing your way off my lawn with some lip syncing and think it's both creativity and artistic!
I loved the goofy town nuke getaway in a fridge, I can't explain why, but its perfect
This sequence was originally how the first Back to the Future ended. Spielberg REALLY liked the concept
Same
The Nuke Scene may be hated but it made nuketown in cod so we can thank it for that.
A lot of people NEED to know that when people say that it’s the worst out of the four doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s my favorite movie in my opinion of the four
Maybe this is a hot take, but I might actually take Crystal Skull over Temple Of Doom
Short Round and ESPECIALLY Willie could be incredibly annoying
No it absolutely wasn't THAT bad. People love to pick out all the bad parts and flaws of a movie, thinking that's ultimately what they only consist of. This movie was great, nowhere near as entertaining and adventurous as the previous original trilogy, but a FUN and well directed movie nonetheless. Period.
and you are correct and others arent because? if there are bad parts and flaws of movies, these things can dampen your enjoyment for it. ur literally saying its good if you ignore the bad parts, but some people just think its too much to overlook.
@@bigjawline9235 What I'm saying is people love to focus on the parts they didn't like much more heavily on the stuff they enjoyed. Are CGI monkeys and a funny fridge scene really that big of a deal? People need to get over themselves if that "dampens" their enjoyment of a movie, that's ridiculous.
"that one didnt age quite so well"
I've actually been wanting to rewarch this lately since the new trailer
One of the first movies I saw in cinema back in 2008 after I finally got my own car. I remember enjoying it but not loving it.
And it was hard to not feel infected by the rampant hate for it since then. I honestly can't remember the last time I watched it.
This really helped me get into a more open minded headspace for it
I am more than anything starting to see a trend that when people talk about the films they grow up as kids they tend to love them much more than the people who are grown up seeing the films they previously saw as children. In other words the criticisms found within the sequel trilogy of Star Wars, Indiana Jones 4, Fantastic Beasts and so on are no different than those who criticized the prequel trilogy of Star Wars, the Harry Potter films and so on. If you feel the sequel trilogy betrayed the characters you loved then you are no different than those who hated Anakin Skywalker feeling their love of Vader was betrayed. But then there are people who will say that the prequels enhanced their love for Darth Vader just as people say that their love for Luke Skywalker was enhanced in the sequel trilogy. But when it comes to these franchises that are expanding more and more, those who have never seen them end up watching them feeling indifferent because people over hyped them. It is an absolute rarity to find someone who can say they love a franchise beginning to end these days. I'm just tired of all the fighting and I wish people could be more accepting and understanding of each other.
It's not a bad movie, it just isn't quite the same as the early ones. Kinda like when the Pirates of the Caribbean series did 2 more after a closed trilogy, the add ons were fine as movies, but in comparison they fell a bit short and re-opened the ending as you mentioned. I LOVED KotCS as a kid, played the Lego videogame on the Wii, listened to the music way too often, and I still love the movie because of those connections. Kingdom didn't deserve all the hate it got, hopefully more people will come around to it when they prepare for number the final movie. And hopefully, that movie is just as good as the classic adventures and not a movie that makes KotCS look good. James is a great choice to direct, hopefully he'll deliver on a solid story and tone. Great trailer, great vibes, I can't wait to add this to Indy's roster of adventures.
Plus, we get another phenomenal soundtrack to bless our ears. So happy John is on board for this last one!
Dial of Destiny made Crystal Skull look like Return of the Jedi as the ending to the series when we saw what it had in store for Indy opposed to the happy ending that Crystal Skull gave Indy.
I really enjoyed it when I watched it as a kid, and even though I'm old enough to see how stupid alot of stuff in it was I'd still hold it as one of my favorites
nooo the fact that they killed mutt off screen in vietnam
Straight up blows
The problem was I saw the first one as a kid and this one as an adult.
Rewatching the original I realized they aren't so different in tone.
Indy 4 felt far more Indy than Indy 5.
Agree
@FullFatVideos so wherss that faith again in Indiana Jones 5?
Beautifully timed video! Indy 4 is not that bad, pure nostalgia for anybody born around 2000, like me!
It is bad, though not as bad as the Star Wars prequels
I remember when I first saw the film in the theater. I had read an article years before and I think it was George Lucas that said they were just looking for that perfect script. After seeing the movie my first thought was 'yikes! I wonder what the bad scripts looked like!' I thought the movie wasn't terrible, but was terribly disappointing.
In other words, you were a kid so you had no investment in the older films of the franchise and it didn't have to make sense because 'splosions cool. Got it.
@@johngrey9415 shouldn't assume I didn't have any investment in the older films haha, I did watch them many times before crystal skull and as an adult they're an iconic trilogy. What's your point here...
What wrong with Aliens? I play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis and the game was about Aliens. Beside.. I am happy with the "Happy Ending" and this it should have ended that way for the character.
My main issue with this film is that it felt like it was trying to be The Mummy instead of just being a new Indiana Jones adventure.
Interestingly, it came out the same year as Mummy 3, and Indy 4 was way better than that sequel.
Disney forever ruined Star Wars and Indiana Jones! That’s impressive
You haven’t even seen the new movie 😂
I remember seeing it in the cinema as a kid, and just being thrilled that a new Indiana Jones movie was out. Watching it back as an adult now, I can see it has its problems. I still find it entertaining though!
At last. A review that has something nice to say about Crystal Skull! I grew up watching the first three and had a mixture of anticipation and trepidation when I went to see this in the cinema. My main concern was whether Harrison Ford was too old. As it turned out, I had a great time and left very happy. Ford was definitely still up to it. Sure, things like some dodgy CGI were bad points, but it is still a really fun, enjoyable movie. Fingers crossed for Indy 5.
I was in first grade when it came out. At the time , I didnt know what Indiana Jones was until I saw the three prior movies. Glad my dad introduced me to Indiana Jones
Spoony is the type that picks at his own scabs then complains they never heal.
I was baffled when he complained about the part near the end where the warriors came out of the alcoves as Indy and the others are passing through. He questioned how long they were even IN those alcoves. They had to wedge themselves into these recessions in the wall, and stay there for God knows how long. Do they spend years at a time staying there, just waiting for some guy to pass by? That's quite a nitpick, isn't it? He thinks that's an example of how the movie all falls apart when you actually think about it. I think people forget how to suspend disbelief as they get older.
Just rewatched the movie and I still don't think it's as bad as every critic thought. One thing I do wish more of was more character interaction between Indy and Mutt as well as Ox(while not in a trance) and Indy.
I also loved seeing the moment where you could see on Indy's face how proud he was of Mutt when he was fencing against Irina
I've always liked Crystal Skull, it has its flaws, but overall I've always enjoyed it
I liked the fridge scene. It was a variation on a scene in a script called "Indiana Jones and the Saucermen from Mars." I don't even think it's the most unbelievable thing to occur in an Indiana Jones movie. I think Indy 4, Die Hard 4, Lethal Weapon 4, etc. are all over the top compared to the first three and that's fine. I hope the next one (5) is good. I hope they don't kill off Indy. I really like George Hall.
The magical and mystical stuff is unbelievable, but being magic gives it a suspension of disbelief. Everyone knows that if you are at ground zero of a nuclear blast you are going to die whether you are in a fridge or not. And being thrown hundreds of feet in the air in a fridge is also not survivable.
@@jasons5916 I'm not talking about the supernatural stuff. I'm talking things like the Nazis knowing where to set up a truck to look like a storefront and knowing Brody would just walk into it. Not that I mind that either. As for surviving a bomb, Tsutomu Yamaguchi survived two atomic bomb detonations days apart at ground zero and he lived to be 93. As far as Indy's ride in a fridge, do a TH-cam search on, "survived crash without a scratch."
@@jasons5916Japanese citizens survived mere hundreds of meters away from the epicenter of the blast. That's where duck and cover came from, interviews with survivors of atomic blasts.
" Indiana Jones is still Indiana Jones." Give Kray Kay time to undo that by June.
Yes. Yes it is
Indy saying quite awkward "parttime" will always be one of my favourite RLM moments.
Plinkett’s review of Skull is the definitive review. I say this because he not only moans about it in an entertaining way, he also offers up some truly valid solutions. Not to take away from your video as they’re different presentations. I enjoyed your video and hearing the viewpoint of a younger viewer. Especially a viewer who was “a kid” as you said when Skull came out.
Amen, brother "parttime!!"
I like these types of movies because they go for some fresh humor and enjoyable actions, and that you can still appreciate every character as they try to deliver something without altering the entire movie just about *them* even if they dont get much screen time and their own subplots or character development instead of being a cold stone of watching anime characters discussing and breaking down the iceberg of myths or some sneaky intention from a villain. These movies understand when to be serious and when not, and they certainly dont dump people for no logical reason just because of the "i hate you fuck off".
This film IS great - beautifully shot (arguably Spielberg's best show compositions for Indy since 'Raiders') and the style/feel of the film is so refreshing from today's art by committee content farm franchises.
1:00 "We seem to have reached the age where life stops giving us things and starts taking them away." - Dean Charles Stanforth
Indiana Jones 4 essentially was a role reversal film where Indiana would be like his father when reconnecting with his family in unexpected ways. The fact that Indiana Jones became a fully realized person by now and understood the interdimensional beings treasure was knowledge is exactly how Indiana Jones measures a person's wealth after discovering his relationships with who he is close to matters most. He learned this lesson by his old age. Indiana Jones 5 will bring Indiana Jones at the twilight of his legacy. I really hope we get simply a one liner of something like, "Marion is buried where I'll be when I'm gone and Junior is in college. My days of adventure are long gone."
My main problem is the action sequences of the film looked goofy as Indiana Jones 2. I love the story and characters, but part of the fun of the franchise for me is action sequences that didn't break the suspension of disbelief. Otherwise everything Indiana Jones 4 lines up as a good film that is consistent with its characters and its storyline was engaging.
To be fair, Harrison Ford was still crashing planes on golf courses and walking away unscathed at this time. So little other than the fridge was truly unrealistic.
I was shocked how good he looked here
@@FullFatVideos I sincerely hope I age that well.
Idk Harrison looks awake and alive and looks like he wanted to do this compared to Star Wars new trilogy where he looked bored and tired 🤷♂️
And it begins. Just like the prequels, once Indy 5 comes out, everyone will claim they loved Indy 4 I and accuse RLM of single-handedly creating an anti-Indy 4 phenomenon.
Prequels are awesome tho.
@@ledzeppelinfan1001 no
9:03 I don't want anyone to replace Indy.
I’ve always enjoyed this one ever since I watched it over a decade ago and still enjoy revisiting it from time to time. I put on a picture setting on my tv that seemed to give it a more natural look that made it feel like a 60’s era movie, especially the opening hanger scene. I dunno if the dvd quality lent itself to that but it really did feel like a bygone era film.
I loved ALL of the Indiana Jones movies! ... INCLUDING Crystal Skull.
I think all the negativity has came from a few promenent people disliking the Aliens storyline, As if it is somehow More far fetched than magic stones or fallen angels swirling around a mythical Ark! And as is inevitable ...it is fashionable fore everyone else to jump on the ..."Hey I agree with you too" , Badwagon
It was a perfectly fun action adventure film. ..... Please just be happy and enjoy these fun movies people have worked so hard to create. 😊
If it weren’t for some of the major issues (the fridge, the monkeys, and the aliens etc) I think this would have been rather well received. Probably not a change in the rankings, but less hated. There were plenty of great moments here like the fight at Area 51 and the ants
I think Indy 4's problem is mostly in it's direction. Spielberg's reliance on green screen made the characters not feel like they're really there and everything looked too clean. I know a lot of modern films do the same, but no one was used to seeing Indy that way and paired with Ford's age concerns at the time, made things less believable which draws even more attention to the less believable things the character has always done.
video may not have aged well. Reviews are hellishly mixed. I didn't hate Kingdom like most, but I have no faith in Indy 5.
Indy 5 should have been canned the moment Spielberg dropped out.
I remember seeing crystal skull in the theaters and hearing an audible gasp of disgust across the theater when Mutt swung on the monkey vines. When Marion drove off the cliff, there was a further but minor commotion.
That’s a good point. I’m a big defender of the film as I loved it as a kid but yeah that’s some world class Disney cringe.
I loved it as a kid, it came out at just the right time with the Lego sets and games and everything, I had a whole Indy phase as a kid.
As a lot of people have already said here it came out at that time where hating the prequels was big and such so it definitely got way more hate than it deserved
Same here. Saw it in theaters when I was 10, and became obsessed lol I saved my money for all the Lego sets, the one with the tree cutter vehicle and amphibious truck was the coolest 😂
For me KOTCS is like the Star Wars prequels, in the sense that I always loved those movies and I was very surprised that people hated them
Ya too bad dial of destiny didn't turn out any good.
the fridge scene isnt even the worst part of the movie
I thought the interaction between Harrison and Shia was fantastic.
GOD your video was such a breath of fresh air. Since 2008 (when I was 8) I too, fucking loved this movie. Still do! even after growing up and accepting its meriad of flaws. It always made it such a drag to read all the hate and vitriol towards it. Even now, I couldnt find a single video on Indy 5 that didnt spend 10 minutes of an intro to remind the audience of how "godaweful" indy 4 is. Its always been a fun indy adventure, just the same as the rest of them. Love the perspective you gave to the whole thing!
Crystal Skull for me aged better than Temple of Doom
That’s a bold statement
Honestly, I simply enjoy watching the opening scene of the drag race set to "Hound Dog". The camera work, the composition, the storytelling... I've always thought of it fondly as a slick, fun conglomeration of Americana tucked into the film as a love letter to the time period. And the aspect of the scene where, for a brief moment, enemies (whether they realize it or not) become kindred spirits has always given me a warm and fuzzy feeling in my tum tum.
I'm not like a big Indy fan or anything and I haven't analyzed the movies that much at all, but I've always seen Crystal Skull as my favorite thanks to its incredible action and set pieces. I also really liked Mutt and the older Indy. Additionally, as someone who likes space, aliens and science more than the religious artifacts in the other movies, the narrative is just naturally going to appeal more to me as well. I see a lot of the criticism against this movie much the same of any other despised sequel of a beloved property (take your pick), where it's really not as bad as people say and usually a lot of people's criticisms apply to some extent to the originals as well if they would just take their rose-tinted glasses off. Rise of Skywalker not included as you pointed out yourself.
I think the criticisms about destroying the Jungle Cutter are fair, as it would have made the scene exponentially more interesting to actually blow up everyone's chances of moving large vehicles any deeper into the Jungle.
With no road forwards, Indy could then highjack the truck and high-speed reverse it down the dirt path, using only his mirrors to drive everything back to front. You could homage the truck scene from Raiders but entirely in reverse-gear.
"We're never gonna lose 'em if we stay on this track!"
"There's no abundance of turnoffs out here son!"
"So what's your plan Gramps, just keep on until the clutch burns out?"
"Buckle up."
"What?!"
"BELT. NOW"
*Indy handbrake turns it off the road and drives nose-first into a deathly-bumpy hill, covered in rocks and foliage*
The Soviets slam their brakes on, refusing to follow him off the road, yelling in Russian:
"Is he nuts?!" - "He's not nuts, he's crazy!"
If people think Indy 4 is disappointing, they never read the novel Indiana Jones and the seven veils. Aside from a fantastic opening sequence, that book gets so convoluted and confusing that after I finished it I genuinely had no idea what was going on for the most part
The books got really bizarre in places. Invisible cities, alternate dimensions, living dinosaurs, and a book that tells everyone how long they will live. Crystal Skull was pretty tame by comparison.
@@astrosquirrel5038 The Books and Comics though are not very well known and popular even among Indy fans who will just mainly watch the movies especially when compared to star wars when media like books comic and video games are as popular and successful as the movies and Tv shows
@@astrosquirrel5038 I keep looking out for some of the books.
Only found '...And the Dinosaur eggs' so far, I think?
I just finished re-reading all those Indy novels. Some were good, some were a little confusing, and some just seemed to jump around the world for no reason. The ones written by Martin Caiden were longer, and he also went into way too much detail about airplanes and flight (he is/was a pilot, so I guess it was him showing off?) Also, some novels went PAGES talking about a character's backstory, which could have been done through dialogue so it would be less clunky storywise. Who wants to read pages about a character who isn't even a main character of what they did before the story started?
...Mutt's off living a happy marriage 💀