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- Today we are going to look at the AWG-9 Radar on the F-14 Tomcat and explore how it works and how to use it. Now, I’m sure you could go down a rather deep rabbit hole with this, but we are going to try to keep it high to med level. We will talk about the various systems systems and panels you will need to know... go over all of the modes and functions we should be aware of when using them, explore a few scenarios and examples of when and why you would use the various modes over others and just try to get a really good fundamental understanding of how to use the AWG-9 so you can get a good start on your journey at becoming a RIO.
00:00:17 - Classic Volley Ball Courts
00:00:31 - Maverick Sighting
00:00:49 - RIO Pit Focus Overview
00:01:39 - WCS Modes
00:01:45 - Pulse Doppler Modes
00:02:57 - Hot Notch Cold DDD Visual Example 1
00:04:05 - Split S DDD Visual Example 2
00:04:45 - Hot Notch Hot DDD Visual Example 3
00:05:21 - Pulse Mode
00:06:55 - PD Search
00:07:19 - RWS
00:07:58 - TWS
00:08:58 - AZ SCAN / EL BARS
00:10:10 - TID - Symbology
00:12:02 - TID - Display Modes
00:13:27 - TID - Distance
00:13:44 - TID - Modes
00:15:34 - HCU - Hand Control Unit
00:16:45 - HCU - Modes
00:17:58 - CAP - Computer Address Panel
00:18:51 - Example Mission
CVW-11: DCS F-14B Tomcat RIO School
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Waaaait, did you rename the video title shortly after release? I think I remember it being different earlier today.
Sooo... the TTI timer is still not working? *thinking* Shouldn't it display "time to impact: 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... " after an AIM-54 launch? At 23:45 no timer visible...
@@Dan20q Requesting a refund right now. Unacceptable!
Well, I am ACTUALLY waiting for a (former) real F-14 person to reply here and clarify the situation.... OBVIOUSLY...
How can I lock targets which button is it ? Cannot move the radar strob. Pls may you help me with this ?
By around the 9 minute mark I finally understood why the F-14 carries around a second dude just to babysit the radar. Holy shit.
I suddenly gained a huge appreciation for the Hornet.
The "second dude" in the F-14 sat in the front, as this aircraft weapon system was built around the AWG-9 and the RIO. The guy in front handled the flying part to take a little bit of workload off of the primary crew member in BVR engagements.
siouxperb5570 but which is the pilot and co pilot.
@@kwilliams3161 There is only one pilot, in the front cockpit. The rear cockpit crew member is a Naval Flight Officer, specifically the Radar Intercept Officer in the F-14. Naval Flight Officers an all Navy aircraft are not qualified to physically fly the aircraft. Pilots are designated as Naval Aviators.
siouxperb5570 ok thanks .do you happen to know if the f15e Strike eagle is the same way ? There’s a pilot and the other guy is just doing the radar ?
Well done Jabbers.
Thanks!
wow, praising from the highest lord of lords! ;) To a bright future of DCS! (with CombinedArms 1st person multiplayer lag-stresstests very soon hopefully)
Imagine getting replied by dcs itself. What an honor
Dude I'm gonna need a god-damn physics degree to learn all this.
I’m doing one lol
It's funny because flight sims made me more interested in physics actually
@@water1374 Hated physics in school, now I regret that I didn't really pay attention...
I thought I had some sort of handle on it.....
I thought wrong
Cracking work as per usual Jabbers
Lol maverick and charlie on 00:39 ;)
How he do that.
And the Volleyball courts :)
where is this object located?
@@DrayAviation Seconding this, I need this mod like a fat kid needs a second slice of cheesecake.
@@fargo007 lol : )
I never knew how little a radar really saw. Before i started learning the RIO seat i was so frustrated how Jester or my human RIO had problems finding and tracking multiple targets because i thought the thing sees everything in front of it. Turns out it sees a small slice at a time and can only track a fraction of targets that are in the front hemisphere at the same time. And even then you have to hope it isnt in the notch or ZD filters 😂
Man, what a complex video. I can only imagine how long you took to make this video. Good to know that Goose's job is far more difficult than calling out bogeys to Maverick.
Incredible quality, what the Fenix Airbus is for the civilian simulator is this Heatblur Tomcat is for jet fans. Unrivaled system depth and endless functions and systems to study! And not one but two detailed complex and sophisticated different cockpits in one jet.
@ 0:40 lol Great information and well explain. Thank you Jabbers
After spending years flying F4.0, I’m amazed how primitive this radar system is compared to the viper radar.
Primitive maybe, but more capable in some contexts
@@JohnMaxGriffin Yeah it is the best radar in the game. Goes the furthest. Maybe not the best graphics and visability on the hud (there is almost or more like non on the hud.)
Yes jabbers im awake 2 am thanks for making this f14 more and more interesting.
Best school pilot ever .
That was an excellent tutorial. Perfect balance of technicality and practicality. Thanks for taking the time to make it
Awesome :D I would love to see more like the last part where you engage different targets in different situation to get a feel for the workflow.
Thanks SO freaking much man! I heard your mention on FPP today. Good stuff.
Oh, now I understand why I could not lock the target while in PD Search with the HCU in DDD . Great video, thank you !!
Very nicely presented video, I am constantly coming back to refer to this while learning the radar, thank you.
You Sir, are a Rock Star. Take the next six months off with the thanks of the simming community!
Piggybacking on these other comments....damn.....this is more than practice, it's a commitment.
Loved the video, I will be watching this a couple times to get ready!
Excellent job! Well done. So much to learn about the F14 and it's so much fun. While it in many ways "should" be outdated compared the more modern birds, especially in PvP servers this doesn't seem to be the case. More advanced in many ways and an even steeper learning curve compared to the Hornet or Viper for example but it seems great. Need to really spend some time in it but having a hard time finding a way to learn RIO by my self.
/Wilbuz
One thing I didnt understand was making targets as friend/foe, since I didnt see you explaining IFF. However on the last part of the video you perform the IFF then proceed to mark the target as enemy.
So, the idea is that for all targets we lock, check iff then mark as friend/foe?
This will be our main work load? Is there a way for it to mark targets as friend or foe by itself? What about data link? Do we get friend/foe from friendly aircraft RIOs markings?
Does it share with the F-18?
Thanks
dont quote me on this but i believe the way it works is: you have to iff interrogate the target and if you dont get a response from it you can mark the target as an enemy just so you dont have to check it again later on
@@iphone_9862 but what kind of response should we see if friendly? symbology?
@@dogtaggamer1 a line with a round or cup like tail = friendly
Its complicated. Dont know about the F14 specifically but generally there is Mode 1, 2, 3, and 4 and now sometimes 5 IFF. Mode 3C is the normal ATC transponder squawk code with altitude. Mode 1 will be usually ##00 and all jets in a package will be the same. Mode 2 is used also and is ####, like M3. So you can use any combination of these to interrogate a contact. The ROE may be something like you need Lack of Friendly (LOF) AND Presence of Enemy (POE) indications to declare Hostile. An incorrect or - response to a M1, M2, M3 or M4 interrogation or combination of them can be considered LOF. Ex: "LOF = -M2CC" (CC means Correct Code).
POE is a little more complicated and a lot of it is classified.
@@MattH-wg7ou Some what correct. M3 is used by ATC as you stated, Mode 4 is an encrypted code that is changed daily. It is this code that you are interrogating. An incorrect response, or none response will leave you with the assumption that it is enemy. Be aware however, civilian traffic will also not respond and will give the impression as being enemy, so know the sky you're in.
I now understand why my RIO calls the AWG9 all sorts of insults
The volleyball field... Love these little hints. Great video BTW.
This, does put a smile on my face.
Good job those mig28s couldn't pull 4g inverted
That was amazing. thank you! Could almost be convinced it was in cockpit footage. Any chance you can let us know what your system specs and DCS settings are?
System specs are in the description, settings pretty much everything on max
excellent explanations
Really nice tutorials! I love your vids.
I don't know man, two phoenix hits in a row...kinda sus. =) Thanks for the video.
Lol also made well before they started fucking with all the missile fm
I’m sick of Heatblur’s F14 already....
.....only joking, I can’t wait for Wednesday - talk to me Goose!
I still don't see the fuel gauge Goose taps on.
I'm learning like a mad men to trying to understand the RIO, but my god... I'm lost, your video help me a lot, but I'm still lost. I'm not sure that I understand how you choose the good mode and so on... I was stuck only on the DDD until now, but, I will try to see If I'm able to use the TID now... Because nothing staying on it in my side :-/
Jabbers can you explain the IFF interrogation a little more? Do you just push the iff button or what?
expect another video on it!
Best guide ever tnx
Great video. Using all your tutorials for preparation. :) Can one of your next videos be one when you are in an dynamic fight with other real players.
Scenario: 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3. / Starting distance 100 miles / Enemy players must be very good MP players.
- Fight is along the coast. So bandits can choose fighting feet wet or in the hills.
- Enemy's are free to choose how to engage you and defend you.
- Enemy's and you are free in weapons choice.
- Enemy flight's can't be mixed.
- Multiple runs against different types. (Against F/A-18C, SU-27, F-15)
- you must have human RIO
- Both sides must give 100%
This is because i would like to see the decision speed of a good pilot and RIO that are knowledgeable of the systems, against other good MP pilots flying other aircraft. See all what you have thought us in an fast phased fight from BVR to the merge.
Excellent work! Thanks a lot! :-)
/Wilbuz
Thank you, much appreciated!
I grew up with Top Gun, and have always loved the Tom Cat, but at heart, I'm a sort of technocrat and love the F-18. Does that make me a traitor, a bad person!?
We;ll see when TG 2 comes out
@@Jabbers I heard that they're going to be going up against freaking drones. I can absolutely see that happening and it will ruin the movie.
All I need is more time in the RIO seat. I have the basics down and this video helped a great deal. But I am having issues locking the target. Is hooking essentially locking the target? I was having trouble last night being able to lock targets, also finding them all together. I guess I'll just use PD more first, then switch according to the situation?
What an absolutely fantastic video! Great job and thank you so much!
I'm wondering, once you've fired your missile, are you free to lock on to other targets or do you have to keep it locked until splash?
With an aim7 you have to wait, with an aim54 you can lock something else once it goes pitbull
How do you know if a plane is friendly or hostile after pressing the IFF button? In the example mission you said it didn’t answer, so its hostile. What happens if it’s friendly?
There is a follow up video on that th-cam.com/video/YG7sWweg2RQ/w-d-xo.html
So helpful
Thanks a lot, great video!!
Any chance to get a look at the lantirn pod? Very curious about self lasing etc.
why didnt you iff the first bogey?
Well, no more cussing at Jester for not being able to lock a guy anymore.
Can anyone explain why a zero-doppler-filter is used in a radar for air-to-air application? From what I gathered on the internet it's used to filter out stationary objects on a stationary radar, but I don't see how that helps on a moving radar. (I'm completely new to flight sims and radars and all that so excuse me if I'm talking nonsense)
So the point of a Zero-Doppler filter is to filter out ground clutter, if you know how fast the ground is moving towards you then you can get rid of the ground returns by filtering them out.
This should leave you with only the planes that are flying away from you or the planes that are flying towards you.
Look down shoot down radar was developed because regular pulse was being spoofed by ground clutter, such as when Jabbers use Pulse search (look at the DDD you can see a mountain like object)
Thanks, I think I got it now
@@TheVideoBen I think it is also helpfull if a plane is not moving relative to you. E.g. both fly north 400knts.
Okay, so the arc shape that was shown in this video is known as the main lobe clutter filter, or mlc filter. That's the one you can probably understand, it filters out the ground in the distance that's coming towards you if the radar is looking down. This filter can be turned off, but I dont know if that's functional in the Sim yet.
But the zero Doppler filter is for something else. The radar beam isn't a neat rectangle. There are unwanted sideways firing components of it called the sidelobe. Part of the sidelobe will he firing roughly straight down and will create a return centered around zero Doppler because the plane isn't moving straight down.
According to the manual you cannot disable the zero Doppler filter except by going to pulse mode and then not using Doppler at all, it mentions that pulse may often be needed if you're pursuing a target.
Very good explanation, thank you.
Should I remain locked to target or hooked after launching the missile(Phoenix)? is there a pitbull timer like Aim-120C AMRAAM ?
There should be yes
Can someone explain why the AHRS caution light keeps coming on during flight? Sometimes it happens after the ground alignment finishes. I understand what the function of it is (back up attitude and heading reference system) I feel like I'm following the start up videos correctly but I guess there's something I'm missing.
forums.mudspike.com/t/f-14-ahrs-light-on-caution-panel/8121
@@JabbersThanks appreciate the info.
So range is adjusted in Pulse modes with the range selector above the DDD, how do you adjust range with the Pulse Doppler modes?
Pulse Doppler only shows closure, not range, range is shown on then TID when in RWS and TWS modes
@@Jabbers ah ok thanks for the quick reply
Wait, most important question, how did you get it to show 28 on the RWR.
It's a f5
@@Jabbers which would be a 5 surely.... Is this a standard easter egg in the F14 or is it modded?
Never mind, its automatic if they have the mig-28 skin.
Will the phoenix turn on its seeker head once you loose lock automatically?
Currently yes, in a future update no
Excelent! thanks a lot
What is the range advantage of PDS over RWS? PDS seems pretty useless if its a small margin or am I missing something?
It’s like 10% so ya useless in dcs
@@Jabbers ah ok thanks for clearing that up
How do you shoot an Aim-54 as pilot, ive tried everything just cant figure it out
my understanding is you can't shoot the aim-54 as the pilot, the RIO has control over that, The Pilot can shoot heaters and gun
@@williampass4762 nah i figured it out the pilot can shoot them as well, in fact jester wont shoot anything so you have too
I don't quite understand how to IFF in this video
Pressing the IFF push button up on the DDD panel will enable the IFF interrogation overlay on the DDD. As the beam sweeps across the display with IFF turned on, targets that respond positively (friendly) will be shown as what looks like a little double line, sort-of like an extra thick standard contact. You then use this information and designated targets as friendly/hostile on the TID, which does not automatically display IFF information. The IFF wasn't really covered in this video but it is somewhat covered in the CVW-11 video.
Amazing video, however, I seem to be having trouble selecting PD STT and Pulse STT mode. I do not know what I haven't done to be able to select them and cannot find anything online. Any suggestions as to what I did wrong? Many Thanks.
You have to have a target hooked first
@@Jabbers Thank you so much! I only just bought the F14 yesterday with a friend (I am the RIO mate is the pilot) and your guides have helped me progress so fast to the point where we can go onto an open conflict server and consistently get 3-5 kills in a single sortie after only one day of practice and your videos with next to no previous DCS experience (only started playing a week ago).
@24:23 The pilot is having a bit too much fun, guess they had some pretty rocky music playing in the radio.
Quick question, I was just flying rio, there was an air target marked bandit. I was in TWS auto and the pilot was in air to air with phoenixs selected. i could not get the tws numbers to appear next to the target, I simply could not tws lock him, any tips?
Was it a track from your radar or was it a track from awacs
@@Jabbers I believe it was radar because the bandit was about 20 miles out, sometimes that might have been the case but other times we were at the same altitude. Then, we were following close behind, say 5 to 10 miles at the same altitude, and I couldn't even stt lock. I switched my bars from 4 to 8 quite a bit to try and solve the problem, but nothing worked.
Range doesn't mean it was coming from your radar, sounds like it was a track coming from data link.
@@Jabbers No, I mean because it was 20 miles out I thought it would be easier for the radar to scan at its elevation.
@@Jabbers And this happened multiple times within one flight.
whats the lock keybind
HCU depress
I wish I had the time and dedication, but I don’t think the F-14 is for me. Seems too complex for someone only using DCS as a weekend hobby. A-10C and Mirage I achieved at least intermediate or advanced level (at some point in the past). F-18 I can “fly” but haven’t had the time to study the systems deeply. I hope either that I am wrong or that other people realize what they are buying. What are your thoughts on the complexity of this aircraft when compared to an F-18 or A-10C? What about for those flying solo, is it worth it?
I've personally heard that while it can be one of the most complex aircraft, it is one of the easier ones to learn. If flying solo, Jester can help with startup and various other things, often to change modes or if you want him to do something, you can ask and he will help
Holy F'n Shit! everything I had imagined! nice.
buying more coffee for this week!
point pointy end of Tomcat towards the general direction of the bogeys
Climb, get to FL 400 or more
drop tanks
Get up to the Speed of Heat
Master Arm ON
select PH
make sure ACM boresight is off
TWS enabled
at 35nm
hit launch till all 54's are gone or no more targets are left to fire on.
pray
pick off any stragglers with remaining ordnance and gun down the last biotch with 20 mike mike.. for shits N giggles
Why did you switch to Pulse STT @23:50?
To not lose him in the notch
How would a positive IFF be shown ?
Will followup with a video on that tonight (i hope)
well how the hell do we use full action
Binding for the HCU
Same for locking to target right?
It's called full action in the binds for the HCU
To bad we couldn't get the F-14D in DCS instead
Maybe one day
MiG-28 NAILS, with the 28 symbol on RWR? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yes if you give the F5 it's black paint job it will identify as a Mig28...jester will even call it as one.
0:39 excuse me wtf ?
error at 4:05, or is it just me?
What error do you see?
I may be really dumb but i've watched it multiple times and it still doesnt make sense to me.lol @4:05 - "if a target if flying away from you, and does a split s and turns back Towards you" Is the plane supposed to be turning back toward you, or going away? @@Jabbers
Oh no! Yes the wording on that is wrong isn’t it 🤦🏼♂️ great catch!
People saying Jabbers should sleep. *laughs in SST time zone*
man that radar is confusing
....what?
i dont understand anything
Hahaha, "mig-28's" just like top gun
The two people who downvoted this were the MiG-28 pilots.
HELLO JABBEEEEEEEERS Don't forget the walkman next time :P well look at the pilot's head at 24:22
Um. My head hurts. I think I’ll need to watch this a couple more times.
Duuuuude that 2nd Fox3, you hear the drop and the launch, and then a half second later pass through the wake of the missile and you hear / see the airplane react. 23:03
Yes, the immersive quality and attention to detail has blown me away. I'm very sad I don't really have the budget to afford the peripherals I would need to enjoy this beauty. :(
EnDSchultz I highly recommend a shadow pc if your WiFi connection can handle it. It is what I use and my joystick isn’t the best but I have managed to get along fine so far. I only have a low spec tear-away laptop but with shadow I get great frame rates on the highest settings possible. Hope this helped
0:39 he's so tall!
God damn a good RIO is going to be a literal wizard, there's so much potential depth to this system I'm honestly impressed. I was looking forward to playing as RIO, still am... but rather intimidated by how many different situations there are and how you'll have to really get a lot of experience to become truly proficient in this role.
How did it turn out for you?
It`s great that you been releasing these videos for past 2-3 months so we can gradually familiarise with the systems. Trying to understand them all right after the release would be overwhelming. It is apparent that a successful multicrew play requires both pilot and RIO being knowledgeable in their trade. Wow, so much to learn. F-14 will keep players busy for a long time after release.
Okay, 0:40 that kills me
lol yeah had to remind it a little and watch it again, great little Easter egg. still laughing.
same
It'll look even better when we have the F-14A VF-2. No way there won't be a version without Maverick and Goose's names on it
Your videos are a godsend to us new RIO operators. Thank you a ton!
Jeez Jabbers, your really pumping the F-14 vids out :) Loving it.
Awesome tutorials, thank you! Can you explain a bit the connection between the pilot and the rio? What are the pilots tasks in weapon selection, tgt aquiring and launching? Is the pilot able to do all this even without the rio? Is the rio able to fire? In the real aircraft, who decides which weapon is used?
The pilot can't do the stuff shown in the video. The pilot only has short range automatic lock on modes that only work at very close distance. The RIO is able to fire, which Jabbers does in the video multiple times (the red button to the left).
When using TWS, do you have to do anything specific to track the enemy planes? Or does it automatically select them as targets and the you hook them and say must attack or to not attack?
Well this is the main vid I’ve been waiting for. Anyone Else think they may be out of their depth when it comes to being a Rio. Damn there’s a hell of a lot to learn
Yep, a lot to learn but no rush. :)
I think it's going to take a long time to become proficient at it, but it doesn't seem to bad.
As long as you have the modes mapped and memorised it should be easy enough to switch between depending on what the target is doing. Although it's not an F-15 where you lock up 4 targets at once and smash Weapon Fire remember that as an RIO you don't have to worry about flying and dodgin missiles, your entire focus is the radar screen. It's gonna be great and I think good teams will become better than Jester AI.
Once I get a computer and DCS world I’m buying the F-14 just so I can be the man with a godly mustache
Hey jabbers... what about some tactics? Especially reg. flying in chaotic MP environments (birds hugging the ground everywhere, a few at 15000 ft.. AWACS mentioning a bird which is far away and ignoring the one which is a few miles behind you. These are environments in which both sides need to conquer airbases. When I'm up against agile fighters... things go way too fast to with lots of birds sneaking behind me and getting the kill. If the target notches, do I switch to Pulse and then how am I going to fire my Phoenixes at various targets if I can focus only on one? Should I fire the one Phoenix, disengange... and search for other ones? Sometimes it's confusing with many stuff happening around you at the same time. In a F-16, seems like no problem.
in this video when you shoot a missile then you can see a countdown right side the target but when i am shoot a missile there is no countdown right side the target. I was RIO and my friend was the pilot. it was TWS and target is still on my radar(Still can check IFF and can find target INFO on TID, no radar lost) do i miss something or kind of glitch? need some help T^T
:40 is one of the many reasons you are my favorite youtuber LOL
Chris V
Haha, no public displays of affection on the flight line!!!
Can we get a video showing the attack cues the pilot gets when using radar and missiles BVR?
Jabbers you are a beast how can you make so much content so fast you are golden man.
It's not easy...at all ! That will require so much work :o
t'es dans toutes les videos de F-14 que je regarde toi ^^
For those living under a rock: meteormusic.bandcamp.com/album/defender-of-the-fleet-heatblur-f-14-original-soundtrack
The main entree. Loving the launch sounds of the AIM-54 Phoenix.
Great video. You showed how all that works. But one problem, can't convert what you showed into what is in the game. Like half track movement to lock. Where is that in adjust controls?
Under the Rio hcs Controls.
Can you please do a video on IFF.
Yes
Imagine what it must've been like to go through RIO school.